E-mail topic: Should the County Ambulance Service be giving 'free rides' as they currently are to County employees ??
That Service writes-off hundreds of thousands of $$ each year due to their unsatisfactory recovery processes against patients and their insurance companies -reported regularly in the local newspaper. Maybe it is time to sell this service to a private contractor who can run it without cost to local Property Tax payers?
posted by J. Kendrick McPeters | 12:47 PM
222 Comments:
as far as i know it must only be the ambulance service employees, because it's certainly not me.
your statement as to write offs' needs to be corrected.
This has increased 100 fold since Mrs. Vanzant fired Mr. Porter and put Mrs. Phyllis Holley in charge!
She like Vanzant doesn't know what she's doing. Both need to GO!
Check the records of collections before she was put into that position (forceably by Vanzant) and their lies and inability to do the job is made plain by the facts of the figures.
Get rid of Vanzant and some of the problems she created will go away by them self when she's not there to cover up for them.
To Anonymous 8:20
Since all if this is new to me and I don't know, can you explain why Mr. Porter was fired and Mrs. Holley put in charge...was she an employee at the ambulance service when the firing took place? Also, can you list the differences in the records of collections or obtain and post them before the firing and after?
I would like to speak with Mr. Porter myself regarding this situation, but I don't know his first name.
i don't know why mr. porter was fired. by the way he is terry. i do know one thing though, it is funny how she fired porter and then put griggs in office after going through a hiring process and mr story was the one who should've gotten it. i wish someone would explain that to me.
Thanks for Mr. Porter's name...but who is Mr. Story?
Is there a website to check these records?
i don't know of a website for this. i do know the job was posted for the directors position, applications taken, interviewing done and scott story was selected from the candidates.
Excellent discussion, fellows. But it is a little confusing to see so many different "anonymous" comments...
Pretty please, and with sugar on top, could you start posting under a "handle?" Trust me, you'll be just as anonymous, either way.
yeah i do agree with that. what does this have to do with the writeoff's at the ambulance service though. are ya'll saying the director doesn't know how to run the service?
Griggs is a not a good manager. As far as the county employee write-offs (I have a suspicion it might include their relatives also) why can't the commission vote for this to cease?
i do agree the commission could vote for this and stop it. it says in the paper they could vote for it to be where the employees were written off, so i don't see why they couldn't vote the other way. as far as griggs being a good manager, he is a very good manager...of his hayfields.
Does anyone know where we can look to compare the before/after Griggs write-offs? Also, the commissioners are aware of the employee/family freebies but don't do anything about changing their policy. Hopefully Worsham will get voted out and they'll appoint a new commissioner with some back-bone to chair the Ambulance Committee then maybe we'll see some change. If Gordon gets in, couldn't he put a stop to this?
would the county not be better off selling the ambulance service?
there would not be a need to sell the ambulance service if there was a person in charge who could operate the place. look at the findings of last years audit,mistakes shouldn't be made in important items such as the write-offs
Do any of you think Ms. Vanzant has learned a lesson from all the trouble she has caused at the Ambulance Service? The lives she has torn apart and money she has wasted at that office is appalling. Just to give an employee a higher rank that she didn’t deserve! I hope her payback will happen at the polls in August.
Like my Grandmother always said…What goes around, comes around.
To anonymous,June21 7:28 PM
Thank you for your comment,You have hit the nail rite on the head,and some day her time will come around...In August...that goes for an employee or two alsoy
To anonymous on May 24,2006
When Terry Porter was fired by Mrs Vanzant,Why didn't the commissioners and maybe even the county attorney step up and group together and do something about it,instead of just talking about it.Afterall you are the ones that gave her authority to do it!
Anonymous Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:54:24 PM, Wait just a minute! I NEVER gave her the power to fire anyone, since I voted for Don Massey. If he had been elected, we would never experienced the reign of Ms. Vanzant.
To anonymous Thursday,June 22.2006 2:44:07 PM
You are correct in saying a lot of things would have been handeled different if Mr. Massey had been elected, however, there was a resolution passed by the commission that gave the county exective the power to fire the ambulance service director.The prevous resolution required a vote by the full commission to fire or remove the director. After the firing the commission changed the resolution back to the original resolution.
Thursday, June 22, 2006 10:40:20 PM, You are not stating the real facts about the resolution...like how she worded it...to ensure she had the power. Tell everyone about that!!!!
Friday,June23,2006 8:41:47, Again you are correct.This was another one of her plans to undermine the commissoners, as well as it was another step in her plan to get rid of Terry Porter, and she pulled it off
well i don't know mr. massey or if he would've been a better county executive or not. have you bothered finding out why terry was fired? maybe he wasn't doing his job, ya think that might've had something to do with it? i mean she was his boss after all.
sell the ambulance service and then i am sure Mr. Griggs and darlin holley would be gone.
if they fire mr. griggs he then can stay in his hay fields.
Sell the ambulance service and Mrs. Holley with it then the county could Lower the tax rate.
Friday,June 23,2006 10:04:58 PM
Good point. Maybe Mr? Vanzant could answer that question
Saturday,June 24,2006 9:39:34 PM
If I remember correctly,at that time the newspaper and radio reported Mr Porter being fired because county mayor Vanzant didn't think the ambulance was headed in the right direction.What direction has it taken since that time. From comments being shared on this blog, and looking back at the past,the direction back then may not have been so wrong
How does Vanzant know what direction the service is going now. Does she attend all the committee meetings or only take the directors word for how things are.
As we all know our elected officials "don't read this awful blog" yet comparing the number of comments against the number of times the blog has been logged onto, we know darned well they do read it. Having said that, there are two spots for discussion on the ambulance service. As of right now there are 41 comments against these two spots so there must be reason for concern. Vanzant, Worsham and the rest of the commissioners need to be looking into things over there.
Remember,its election year.
to june 24,2006 10:17, so which way was the ambulance service going that could've been right? which way is it going now that's not right? mrs vanzant shouldn't have to attend all the meetings about the service, i think that is the director's job to run it, not hers.
Sunday,June 25,2006 2:56:33 PM
You are right, it should be the directors job to run it.That is the way it used to be till Mrs Vanzant was elected.Since that time she has been the biggest and most problem of the ambulance service with her sticking her nose in everything and running the place
what is the director doing over there that is not right? how is mrs vanzant interfering with the way it is run? and don't say she put mrs holley in charge.
she and Mr. Griggs DID put mrs holley in charge.
Wasn't there even a lawsuit about it, something to do with job titles?
Yes
when did this lawsuit come about? was it after the hiring of mrs holley? what is her title anyways?
To Anonymous: Saturday, July 01, 2006 9:20:25 PM and others:
Here are the basics of what happen…Ms. Holley…was just a secretary at the Ambulance Service…she “Holley” helped Ms. Vanzant when the was running last term for county executive…she kept secret records on the employee over her…so Ms Vanzant would have an excuse to fire her and put Ms Holley in her position.
After Vanzant fired the employee…the employee asked for a reason to no avail. She hired a lawyer, sued and Vanzant had to turn the records over to the lawyer.
There was a lawsuit…and the employee won the suit!!!!
wasn't this lawsuit just over a job title though and really didn't amout to a hill of beans.
Masybe it didn't amount to a hill of beans but what did it cost the taxpayers in lawyer fees?
well this is true. it probably did cost the county alot in lawyer fees.
to anonymous_Tuesday, July 04, 2006 10:19:26 AM
Yes, to Ms, Holley it was just about getting a hirer title!
No, unfortunately, it wasn’t about the title for the fired employee, it was so much more! You see, she was dealing with two very sad and unfortunate events in her life, the first her son died and the second, her dear mother was burned to death in a home fire. But, as much trauma she suffered, she show up for work every day.
Included in the documents Ms. Holley recorded for Ms. Vanzant, was one day the employee had to lay on a cot at work ONE day for thirty minutes.
Now, you make think the situation didn’t mount to a hill beans, but to the suffering employee, it was much more than that. Ms. Vanzant did every thing in her power to conceal the records kept by Ms. Holley, and that is when a lawyer was hired, and the infamous records, had to be turned over.
As for exactly how much money it cost the county, I don’t know at this time, however I’m sure you can fine the answer in the court records.
well i'm sorry about her mother and son. what kind of records were supposed to have been kept? what exactly was the lawsuit over then?
well i'm sorry about her mother and son. what kind of records were supposed to have been kept? what exactly was the lawsuit over then?
to ,Wednesday, July 05, 2006 2:28:59 PM
Everything from bathroom breaks that were timed, telephone calls timed and whom she was speaking to, breaks all timed and on and on.
Just for Ms. Holley a job title! I will see if I can get my hands on the records and I will post them here, if I am allowed.
What Holley and Vanzant did was atrocious, some day they will get their just dues, but I just don’t see how the two of them sleep at night.
you have got to be kidding. yeah see if you can get the records. sounds like alot of bs to me. what is her job title she had to have so badly?
Anonymous Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:32:30 PM
you have got to be kidding. yeah see if you can get the records. sounds like alot of bs to me. what is her job title she had to have so badly?
No BS at all, ms. holley, now has the woman’s job title, office manager!
ms holley is a snake in the grass, just like ms vanzant. they need to work in the same office together.
Sounds like a snake pit.
TO Anonymous July 06, 2006 10:59:11 AM
You are making a lot of blatant accussations on this blog concerning the issue of the secretary of the ambulance service and our current county executive.
We all have skeletons in our closet. YOU need to be aware that there could be reprecussions on your behalf given the comments made. I have a good indication of who you are and know you have private information about yourself you would not appreciate being broadcast on this blog site.
"who you are" ..... well, I am not the one who wrote either of the above comments but found them quite interesting. To the writer of the July 06, 6:08 "who you are" "private information", etc.... comment, it sounds like to me you are ms. holley or ms. vanzant trying to keep information (which everybody with half a brain already knows, withnessed, or has verified from numerous sources) from appearing again right before the election. It's too late! Skeletons in closets do rattle - loud enough to be heard even from neighboring counties. And should politician's friends have jobs only because they ratted on other employees, they should be worried about job security and scurrying around doing damage control.
People,lets everyone slow down and take a look at what happened here without using names and pointing fingers.Let's look at the court case.What started the whole thing.The county executive walked into the ambulance service,and demoted or removed the title of business office manager from a long time county employee.This was done without the director knowing or knowledge of it happening.It was done for no apparent reason or reason given.Both business office employees were given the title of secretary.The resoultions that had been passed by the county commision over the years stated that the ambulance service director was responsible for daily activities and ansignment of employees at the ambulance.The director was the only employee responsible to the county executive by a newly passed resoultion.A lawsuit was filled because of the action of the county mayor. The judge assigned to the case looked at the case,and made a decision before going to trial,before public testomony was made.In his decision he determined the county mayor had overstepped her powers as county mayor and awarded judgement to the employee,which should have given the title back.This never happened.Instead the ambulance director made both office employee co-business office managers,which was a move he could do based on resoultions passed.The main thing that happened here was a county employee was mistreated by the county mayor as was shown by the lawsuit
To anonymous July 06, 2006 7:43:50 PM
Regarding your comment"it sounds like to me you are ms. holley or ms. vanzant trying to keep information (which everybody with half a brain already knows, withnessed, or has verified from numerous sources) from appearing again right before the election".
Ding...Ding...Ding....WRONG!
I am neither,and I'm not even sure who I am voting for in the County Executive race. Also, if everyone knows, why does this person feel compelled to maliciously continue to hack and hack away at this person's character?? You were better off to not respond to my comment.
Apparrently,you condone people who come on here and bash candidates or citizens relentlessly,of which I see a lot of people doing on here. So, if these comments are true, didn't that happen like 3 years ago? What is the point in bringing this up now??? Except to be mean!! It sounds like the other anonymous I addressed previously is perhaps a little worried that Vanzant stands a good chance of being relected. Maybe we could call it desperate. LIKE I SAID PREVIOUSLY,"YOU need to be aware that there could be reprecussions on your behalf given the comments made". That goes for everyone who chooses to make comments, whether they are true of false. Some things are better left alone. If this person that has so much "INFO" is unwilling to divulge themselves, how credible can they be. My whole point on responding is to let the person making these statements aware that they have no right to be making any comments against anyone on here, because they too could find themselves scurrying around and scratching to cover up something that is personal. I find it funny how people want to get on here and make comments that are of a derogatory nature, but if you turn and do the same to them, oh how dare anyone do that. Well, turnabout is fair play. People need to watch out what they say and who they tell about the coments they make when it comes to responding on this blog. It isn't hard to determine who people are on here by their writing skills and writing patterns if you know them well.
to anonymous of friday, july 7. i'm a curious bystander but just wondered who you commented that someone was "unwilling" to reveal their identity when you logged on as "anonymous". i didn't live her during this whole "thing" that seems to have occured but it does seem that it has struck a nerve with someone CLOSE to the "thing". just a bystander's observation that your response was way too passionate to not be connected??
My whole point is the person making these comments is proving to be very annoying and always seems to be casting stones when they should sit down and shut up. I have nothing to do with Vanzant or Holley. So you don't know as much as you might think.
Oh sorry, I guess the rest of us aren't as perfect as this individual is.
Keep in mind I am not saying comments against either Vanzant or Holley are unfounded.
I just find it very vindictive to discredit on a continous basis. I wish this person had the "Nerve" to say these things in a public format. Perhaps at the Meet the Candidates this evening at the GCHS. I think that might be very intersting to hear in person and would lend a lot more credibility. However, this person making these comments truly knows that it could come back to bite them in the rear if done.
to ms holley and ms vanzant
since the judge ruled against you and said you were wrong, wouldn’t a simple, i am sorry, would have cleared this up a long time ago?
To the anonymous that is slandering Holley and Vanzant....people on this blog pretty much know who you are by the tone and anger in your writings. I have heard in many places...country store, resturants etc. and from several commisioners running for office that one of the big reasons that Mr. Gordon is running for County Executive and being backed by Corky Wakefield is to fire the Director of the Ambulance Service and put Mr. Porter back and to fire Mrs. Holley and put anonymous back. Sound pre meditated to me and by anonymous's threats made on Thursday July 6 7:43:50 PM about job security and another threat earlier on two cents worth(can't remember the date)referring to people getting fired only leads me to believe those rumors to be true. The best thing for the Ambulance Service would be for Mrs. Vanzant to win. And if Mr. Gordon does happen to win and the rumors become a reality and the Ambulance Service goes to H---.....I'm sure anonymous won't have any trouble sleeping at night.
Adding to previous comment the other negative comment that I could'nt remember was on Giles two cents worth under Email Topics: Ambulance Service Writeoffs....25 April 2006 17:50..."perhaps you will be able to keep your job after the election..."
To anonymous,
To maybe stop some rumors going around I offer the following comment: I am personally supporting Glen Gordon in the election in public,openly, and yes I have a sign in my front yard.I am doing this because I feel that he is the best person for the job,since I have seen what the other person running is like.For the past several years since I was fired I haved recieved many,many,many phone calls, letters,cards,and stoped on the street by people many who I did not even know,all wanting to know what they could do to help.Well now is the time to help.VOTE!!.Vote to remove the present county executive nothing would please me more than to see that happen.There is also another rumor going around I have been told about,that my wife and myself are separted and getting divorced.This is not true,we are not.If anyone has something against me personally that is fine take it up with me and leave my family out it.My name and number is in the book.
Terry Porter
I have not spread any of the above "lies" as you suggest I am merely repeating what I have heard as stated before in public places. I am not lieing about commissioners comments and if that is not your stand then why are some of them saying that openly and using it as a pitch for their election? I also feel that 90% of this blog is hot air and BS and used by some to demonize others that don't deserve it and are not warrented if the truth be known. I am mearly a concerned citizen and close to many at the ambulance service and couldn't take the attacks against them which will ultimately make the hard working dedicated people look bad. Threats to jobs is a serious thing and they have been made. No they haven't been documented because it has all been verbal but they have been circulating in the undercurrant. I have nothing against Mr. Gordon but I do support Mrs. Vanzant and thank her for what she has tried to do and what she has done for this county. I think many of the roadblocks she has come up against were spawned by payback attitudes stemming from the situation at the ambulance service which is wrong. Those that participated in that merely punished the county and its citizens by not looking at what was in front of them but focused on what would hold her up and make her look bad.
As to the anonymous that has been making threatening statements as cited above. They have not released their identity either and to a point I don't blame some for keeping anonymous because those people who choose to attack and slander will stop at nothing and have no limits. They make things up and bend and warp what little truth they do have to try to influence. I say to all to do there own homework and ask the people involved "directly" questions you want answered.
Mr. Gordon I have spoken to you and have asked some questions to you and others and based on those answers and the homework I've done I have based my vote. None of my decision was or is based on this blog nor is it personel.
To Mr. Porter I have not heard the rumor about your marriage nor do I care that is your personnel buisness and has no impact on what is circulating. On that issue I wish you the best and hope your family is doing well. We live in Democratic society and you can support whom ever you like. As i said before I fully support Mrs. Vanzant and after looking at the evidence believe she was just in her decisions concerning the Ambulance Service.
To sum up I am mearly stating what Iv'e heard which is not a lie because you yourself Mr. Gordon stated that someone called you 2 months ago with the same thing. No it is not a joke but it is still circulating and being used by some as a threat. As to the other rumors that is the first Iv'e heard them when I read your comments.
All I ask is that individuals need to ask questions for themselves and not rely on unfounded attacks of a few.
Concerned citizen
If they both won in court then why didn't they get their jobs back.....Which they would have done if Vanzant had no tangable, concrete proof that what they did was reason for firing.....THEY didn't get their job backs so that indicates she did her job correctly.
And to Anonymous Wed. July 5 8:19 PM.
At any job lunch breaks are timed, you limit phone calls to buisness matters and if memory serves most factories only allow numbered amount of bathroom breaks. Anyone else working at any of the factories or fast food facilities AKA most of the people, would have been repremanded, disciplined or fired for abusing those kind of things.
THE PRIOR BLOG the top was cut off. the response was to the blog written MONDAY July 3 8:57 AM
Concerned Citizen...
None of this is an attack on you or how you treat people. I merely stated as I said before what I have heard and wanted verifacation which you gave in a rather agressive way. Like I stated before, even you stated that a gentleman had contaced you 2 months ago with the same thing so how could I be lying about hearing it if you were questioned about it 2 months prior. And it is true that some commisioners have said things to my face but you are correct that I can't prove it because it was spoken... and there are some in every district (it would be my word against theirs, but if others have heard this from them then that will be a confirmation of the truth... or not) but again even by your own submission did you say this rumor has been floating around for a while.
I did not state it was factual but that i had heard rumors.I might respond to you later when you cool off but the agressive tone and "CHALLENGE" you to meet me face-to face" comment makes me warry. Perhaps I will contact you by phone again?
I did not ever say you were involved in what the pastconcerning the Ambulance Service and yes my responses may be passionate but when other try to make the hard working dedicated people at the Ambulance Service look bad it does frustrate me.
I couldn't have found out about those rumors if I hadn't have written them on this blog and I was also curious to see if others had heard it and apparently they have if a gentleman called you about them.
And the last two statements how could I be lying about someone contacting you two months ago when you are the one who stated that a gentleman contacted you two months ago with the same rumor.
Is this whole thing dedicated to bashing of the Amublance Service and Mrs. VanZant? I do not know her personally but I feel bad for her that some are saying such vicious things and not seeing some of the positive things she has done for this county,I don't think anyone can serve this much time and not have accomplished some positive things.This is the first
time I have read this blog, and only out of accident, but I can't believe the bashing going on back and forth and back and forth, and from what I can figure out about things that happened several years ago, and who wants their favorite indivdual to win this certain election, I find it very disturbing and very childish and juvenile that grown people (I'm assuming everyone writing is an adult) would bash each other and people they probably don't know in such a way. I thought this blog would be informative but instead I find it a big turn off and will not be reading it again. Shame on all of you!!!
dear anonymous of friday, july 7, 12:23:15 p.m.
Lighten up! Count to ten and while you are counting please go find a dictionary and look up slander.
Now - why are you so angry? Do you feel your job is at stake in some way? You're spewing way too much venom to be a bystander.
Sorry but I'm not a candidate so I couldn't speak at the Meet the Candidates as you suggested. Besides, I work night shift so it's not about not having the "nerve" to say what I say in public. We're saying it all the time. Come to some of the local restaurants or hang outs and drink coffee or eat lunch. Come sit in the cheap seats with us during the county commission meetings. This is common conversation these days. The "nerve" is there darling. People finally are asking questions and talking politics.
I probably did see you at Ed's Corner Market or the NAACP event with your candidate you travel with. Why keep standing in the background?
As for "come back to bite them in the rear if done". Not in Giles County dearie for in GC one can do or say most anything and it doesn't bite them in the "rear". Otherwise, there would be some tail ends in the courthouse that looked like SWISS CHEESE and that you know firsthand and very well!
I asked Mr. Gordon myself about the Ambulance Service. Said he has no intention of firing anyone. He said he'd had a working relationship with Roy Griggs before. I believe he's too smart to be talking about firing anyone. He is the type of man I think who will take office, give everybody on the payroll the opportunity to stay in their positions until he sees they are incapable of doing their job or choosing not to do their job. His decisions then can be based on personal knowledge. He has my vote.
As for Corky Wakefield being behind him. I asked that question also. you are WRONG again. in fact I believe Corky backed Ms. Vanzant last time but hear that he regrets it now because of the lack of goal setting and accomplishments (real ones anyway that she accomplished as I hear the ones she is claiming now were accomplished by others and she's just smiling and taking FALSE credit). Gordon has my vote.
Could it simply be possible? And I'm shooting at a moving target here. But could it be possible that you are maliciously trying to plant these seeds (rumors, lies) because you are desperate to do anything to assist your own candidate who evidently is Ms. Vanzant? If that is it, I believe everybody on this blog can tell those are lame attempts to discredit and I don't think it will work.
It's time for a leader who will set goals, get the 21 folks on the county commission to work together, work hard to find new jobs and keep people in our county. Something has got to be done in our school system. We need a leader who has a background of leadership. In researching Mr. Gordon's credentials, I believe he has those qualifications. Educator, Businessman, Industrial leader.
Also, he answered the questions in the newspaper. Ms. Vanzant did NOT answer the questions. In fact, she seems to avoid any direct conversation and one on one questions. I tried to get her by herself and didn't manage it during one entire event. I just wanted to ask her why she choose not to answer the questions in the paper. In not answering them, she actually answered them for me.
GLEN GORDON for county executive!
Concerned citizen
Gees I don't understand why you are attacking me. Point one: OK I refered to the statement as a rumor and you a lie OK.
Point 2: I'm not surprised that the people that transported your wife were great and I'm glad for you that giles County has a wonderfull Ambulance Service. And I WAS directing my frustrations to the anonymous that was bashing the amb. service and Mrs. Holley.
Point 3: I chose the wrong word instead of "I couldn't have found out about these rumors" to I couldn't have confirmed them. meaning confirming that others had heard them not just me.
Point 4: as I said before you refer to the statement as a lie and I refered to it as a rumor...That was not an attack just a written way to refer to the statement.
to anonymous Sunday July 9, 8:47 PM.
Anonymous Friday July 7 12:23:15 PM and concerned citizen are not the same person.
Dear Mr. Gordon,
I apologize for the lies defaming you that have been anonymously posted on this blog. As I said earlier, in regard to the attacks on Pierre Billard, I didn't set up this blog to serve as a vehicle for unjustified anonomous attacks. Nevertheless, a few people take advantage of the "free speech" nature of this forum, and use it to spread lies and to assassinate character.
I regret this more than I can convey with mere words, but the only alternative I have -- since I can't research and verify every claim made, allowing only the true ones to be posted -- is to close the blog down. Fortunately, free speech is an excellent corrective for the abuse of free speech. That is, truth telling is the remedy for the maliciously spread lie.
Kudos to you, Mr. Gordon, for coming onto this forum, and attacking the lies head on for all to see. This approach is much to be commended, especially in comparison with the "I"m getting a lawyer and suing you" approach taken by another candidate, which led to the "Giles Two Cents Worth" blog being shut down.
Lies may continue to be told about you, in the form of person to person gossip, or as postings to this forum, but the credibility of these stories has taken a very large hit, by virtue of the fact that you've chosen to publicly rebut them. Politics is a game that only the thick skinned need to play, but that doesn't mean that personal attacks should go unanswered.
In a perfect world, everyone would sign their true names, and only post the truth. But in the real world, it doesn't work that way, and those of us who read the blog have a duty -- both to ourselves and to the people being discussed -- to not believe, let alone repeat, every rumor that comes along, and to search out both sides, in order to seek the truth.
I believe that most people have a fairly fine tuned "truth detector" which, when both sides are heard, is able to intuit which side is being honest. But this only works when both sides are heard.
Thank you, Mr. Gordon, for telling us your side. I am confident that you have, in so doing, effectively dispelled the credibility of the lies which were being told about you. While I won't be surprised to see desperate people continue to spread these lies -- online, and off -- I would be surprised to see that anyone continues to believe in them, after your most effective rebuttal.
Dear Kendrick,
I appreciate your apologies. I have been in business too long to let gossip or lies bother me. I just deal with them immediately, in others words, "nip them in the bud."
I don't want you to even consider closing this blog. One of the reasons that comes to mind, is a new blogger by the name of Ruby. She has written how she is disabled and can't attend meetings and how helpful the information is to her.
The information about the Financial Act of 1981 is helpful to people to learn about, and you have so much knowledge about zoning that is better shared for people to learn, myself included.
Personally, I had never read either GTCW or GFSZ but Jo Anne does and lets me know if some information she thinks would be helpful to me. I don't type very well since I always had a secretary and I'm not a person that uses the computer much and Jo Anne does all the typing for me. I just haven't had a lot of time due to trying to cover as much of the county as I can.
Don't worry if I hear of another incident of someone posting something that is not true. I will deal with it, without depriving others to continue the benefits of this blog.
Sincerely,
Glenn Gordon
To Mr. Mcpeter it is mighty nice of you to apaologize to Mr. Gordon for "a post that defamed him" but what I read was a statement about a rumor that has obviously been floating around for a while ( and yes I have heard it too) directed to the anonymous who earlier made defamatory comments toward Mrs. Vanzant and Mrs. Holley ( which are also lies), not an attack on Mr. Gordon. But I guess it's OK for some to repeatedly threaten jobs as many anonymous statements have done throughout this blog and the two cents one. Also shouldn't you apologize to Mrs. Vanzant since the majority of this blog and what seems to be the purpose of it is to lie slander and demoralize her? I have not seen any apologies to her from you concerning any of the blatent attacks on her and some are really nasty. I agree with her there is no point responding to the blatent lies because the same people who are writting them will only just continue and if you really know her and have spoken to her you will too know that all the comments on here are desperate attempts to smear her good name.
As one who wrote in said they have found very little helpfull information on this blog, I agree it is mostly mud slinging and hear say.
One observation and this is not an attack just a question Mr. Gordon if you have no experience on the computer which would be a handicap when research, speed and efficiency is concerned. Because we are in the 21st century where everything is computer based and it is very difficult if not impossible to run a buisness or a county without knowledge of them. How does that translate to be a positive when considering you for the job.
So the blog will remain the same all who want to slam Vanzant go ahead but mention anything about Mr. Gordon and his watch dogs will take care of it.
Anonymous,
I regret any mudslinging that is done on this blog. I also have stated my wishes that (ahem) people would not post anonymously, but nobody seems to care about that either.
As far as Mrs. Vanzant goes, I will gladly apologize to her, just as soon as she, like Mr. Gordon, comes onto the blog to defend herself against the rumormongering.
Meanwhile, I have to note that the pro-Vanzant forces are perfectly welcome to rebut the comments, and to make fresh attacks on Mr. Gordon. This blog is strictly a free speech affair, and both sides are welcome to duke it out, and let the voters decide who is most likely telling the truth.
Incidentally, the rumor mill in Giles County greatly pre-dates the existance of this blog. In 1994, I was helping Giles Collier get elected, and the rumor was spread all over the county that "if you elect Collier, Kendrick McPeters will get an office in the court house." Needless to say, there was absolutely no truth whatsoever to this rumor, or in the other rumors spread about Giles Collier and myself.
Regarding Mr. Gordon's computer abilities being a handicap... just for the record, I never learned to touch type, and yet that hasn't prevented me from being proficient with computers. I suspect that a few hours of instruction could get Glenn Gordon up to speed with the process of "point and click" and after that, he'd be competent enough to not drag Giles County down.
I'm not trying to bang the gong for Mr. Gordon, or anything, but I just see your remark as being a silly nitpick.
Being proficient with modern technoogy and computer programs is not nitpicky. I just handed in a resume and being proficient with computers and knowledge on how to use them is very important.
So Mr. McPetere you condone attacks
( I have to note that the pro-Vanzant forces are perfectly welcome to rebut the comments, and to make fresh attacks on Mr. Gordon. This blog is strictly a free speech affair, and both sides are welcome to duke it out,)
but in your previous entry you condem attacks
(I didn't set up this blog to serve as a vehicle for unjustified anonomous attacks. Nevertheless, a few people take advantage of the "free speech" nature of this forum, and use it to spread lies and to assassinate character.)
So which is it ? Or the question is, is it only certain attacks that you find distastefull?
Anonymous,
I fail to see a contradiction.
I certainly DID NOT establish this blog so that unwarranted personal attacks could be made.
Nevertheless, the reality of the situation is that there's nothing I as webmaster can do about those who make personal attacks. I could delete every negative comment, on the grounds that it might be a lie, in which case the blog would evaporate.
Or I could do what I do now, which is to encourage people who are attacked to fire back with their side of the story. I do believe in all sincerity that if both sides are heard, the truth will eventually come out.
If you think you can do a better job, then you are entirely welcome to start your own blog.
Kendrick
In your comment posted July 9, 10:27 p.m. you refer to attacks against P Billard. Please steer me in the direction of where I can read these attacks. I can only find cordial discussion between "Joe" and Billard. There are a couple of comments/questions from anonymous but they really don't come over as attacks. Surely when a person asks a ligitimate question it should not be misconstrued as attacking. Wheres the thick skin you refer to?
to the Gordons
Age is a personal thing but is it true that if you get elected and are in for four years that you will be in your late 70's and that you ride a goldwing?
Mr McPetre in one of your postings above you say the candidate who caused the previous blog to close down took the approach "i'm getting and lawyer and suing". Where did you get those words. I cant recall hearing anything about a lawsuit.
Dear Anonymous:
Here are some quotes from another "anonymous," regarding Mr. Billard:
Was this his reward for helping out. This may not have been nepotism by relation but it was the same thing
You always seem to be harping on about what you do for 'free' [note the scare quotes around "free," suggesting that Mr. Billard is actually paid -- KM]
It comes over that you are trying your darndest to get this job turned into a paying one.
You also make it sound like you are the only person who has given your time for EMA.What about the 25+years Bill Potts and several other persons gave to this county.Probably a lot more than you will every give. It is easy to see why yourself and the county exec. get along so well.
I think all of this was unjustified; Mr. Billard's explanation satisfied me, but "anonomous" kept plugging away, like a man obsessed.
Now, I freely admit that this bothered more than, say, the rumor spread on Vanzant that she bragged about shutting Penny Thought's blog down. Why? Because (1) Mr. Billard is not paid for his work, while Vanzant gets a $60,000 per year or greater salary, and (2) while Vanzant made no effort to dispel the rumor, Mr. Billard replied to the attacks and did a pretty fair job of rebuttal.
One last factor is that I was, at that time, planning on writing about "floodplain zoning" and did not want to see Mr. Billard -- the county's expert on FP zoning -- to be chased off the blog in disgust. I wanted him to stay on the blog, and hopefully verify some of my claims, which he ultimately did.
So, perhaps my skin was a little unusually thin that particular day. I don't know. I'm a human being and I make mistakes, but I'm trying to be evenhanded in my handling of this blog. I don't delete any comments, even when they attack me or question my fairness. Again, as I said to (possibly) another "anonymous," if you think you can do a better job, go ahead and launch your own blog. (And then I can play at the game of "anonymous critic!")
Dear Anonymous,
"Getting a lawyer and suing" is a paraphrase. Shirley Proud told me that the miscreant who shut down GTCW hired a private eye to find out the true identity of Penny Thoughts. Now, why would anyone spend money on such a thing unless they planned to sue?
Moreover, Penny told me (in a private email) that he threw in the towel because he didn't have the time (or desire) to be deposed on the matter of who made an anonomous posting to his blog.
"Deposed" implies a lawyer, does it not? I put it all together, and conceptually paraphrased it as "I'm getting a lawyer and suing." I wasn't trying to mislead anyone-- in fact, I believe that a lawsuit against Penny would've taken place, had he not shut his blog down.
So, my phrasing was just a matter of shorthand, and reading the tea leaves. I don't know that a lawyer was ever involved, but a private eye certainly was, and that was ominous enough to assume that a lawyer was in the offing.
At any rate, shutting down the blog, rather than entering the fray and denying the allegations, was a despicable act. We can all agree on that, right?
Dear Mr. McPeters
Again defamatory (to damage the reputation, character, or good name of by slander or libel)comments are being made. By refering to the individual as a miscreant (An evildoer, a villain, an infidel, a heretic)is not justified. By potraying the person as evil you are misleading the readers into believing that the individual was in the wrong utterly and totally. In fact maybe the individual may have had a perfectly good reason for what they did. You commend those that write on your blog and defend themselves but if they go beyond that to stop the blatent threats and lies that could not only damage them politically but personally as well are bad...?
Their may have been a reason why Penny did not want to be
deposed (To state ot affirm in a deposition or by affidavit, To take a deposition from:Investigator will depose the witness behind closed doors.)Maybe the individual looking into the slander had a legitimate case which if it lead to a court case would have won hands down, Maybe what was being written was malicious slander which crossed the line has anyone thought of that?
Yes, in our somewhat screwed up legal system, Penny faced some liability.
I, on the other hand do not. No matter what gets posted here!
And why's that?
Because I read this a few months ago:
http://www.eff.org/bloggers/lg/
And realized that the only kind of blog to have, if you accept comments, is an un-moderated blog. Specifically, the comments have to post automatically without any prior review of the blogmaster. That's the way this place works, of course.
So, if somebody posts some damning, obviously libelous piece, and it gets read by the rest of the world, that's not my problem. If, however, the person libeled sends me a demand that I delete the libel, and I refuse to do so in a timely manner, at that point I become legally liable.
Penny Thoughts made the big mistake of moderating all the comments before they were posted. So, once he got sleepy and started "rubber stamping" a big batch of comments, he became liable for the libelous one that slipped through. Even though he deleted it as soon as a complaint was voiced, he was still in legal hot water for approving the comment in the first place.
No such worries for me! I've got this blog on autopilot, and I'll gladly remove any comments I am told (by the subject of the comments) is libel. And, since I'm not anonomous, there's not even a need for anyone to hire private eyes to discover my true identity.
I "commend those that write on (my) blog and defend themselves but if they go beyond it..."
Well, in this case, the person defamed did NOT bother to defend themselves. Nor were they satisfied by Penny removing the offending comments and apologizing. Instead, they just went ahead and attempted to deprive the people of Giles County of their only forum for true free speech. They placed their own interests over and above any of the interests of the community.
Maybe "miscreant" is a bit harsh. But I have no kind words to say for this woman, whoever she is, and I hope she loses her election, whatever office she is seeking. It's not nice to shut down freedom of speech, especially in a place that has so long suffered from the lack of true free speech.
Nita, you said:
Mr. McPeters anonymous had a point when he/she said that it was obvious where your loyalties are because Mrs. Van Zant has been talked about on this site and the two cents site quite viciously and you did not see the need jump to her defense. I think that makes your point very clearly.
Let me make my point as clearly as possible: I would be absolutely delighted for Vanzant to show the same kind of intestinal fortitude as her opponent, and come to this blog and rebut each and every allegation made against her. I guaran-damn-tee you that I'll give her unlimited space to do so. I'll even start a new thread:
"Vanzant Replies to the Rumormongers"
And if anyone -- anyone -- posts in that thread besides Janet Vanzant, I'll delete their comments immediately.
Now, how can I be more fair than that?
I also think anonymous had a point regarding Mr. Gordon. The anonymous person never said the rumors were true they just said they had heard them. When did it become an personal attack just to say you heard a rumor.
So if I say that I heard a rumor that "Nita" is a convicted sex offender, and I repeat the comment on my blog without first verifying it, that wouldn't be an attack?
Whatever you say, boss.
Nita asked:
Why does Ms. Van Zant have to make a personal response on this blog to merit an ounce of human compassion?
I'm not in the business of doling out compassion. I'm just running a blog, and I call em as I see em.
I could go through this thread and count the number of attacks on Glenn Gordon, and note that I never showed him any "compassion" until he jumped in and defended himself. But you can go back thru the thread and make that count yourself. I have better things to do with my time.
I do not have a double standard. I let people post all the attacks and rumors that they like, and I generally stay in the background, not saying anything. Sometimes I may wince at what's being posted, but I rarely comment on it.
The exceptions prove the rule. Pierre Billard defended himself, and I asked "anonymous" to lay off beating a dead horse. Later, Mr. Gordon defended himself, and I posted a comment expressing how much to be preferred his attitude was, compared with that of the woman who shut down Penny's blog.
Now, as I hope you have noticed, I've rolled out the red carpet for Janet Vanzant to defend herself. She's got a thread all her own. That's more than I've ever done for anyone else, and it is surely enough. If she refuses to take advantage of this golden opportunity, that's her problem, not mine.
I assure you, I am running an unbiased blog. If Roger Reedy (a power hungry blowhard in my opinion) wanted to come here and post pro-zoning screed, I'd give him unlimited space to do so. And if I'm fair to my arch political enemy, you can be damned sure I'm being fair to Janet Vanzant, a woman I'm related to, and have never had any unpleasant dealings with. You can imagine a bias and lack of compassion all you like, but it's simply not there.
Nita, Nita, Nita:
We all know that Mrs. (meaning married woman to dispel a statement I overheard one of her helpers say recently that she was a "single mother") Vanzant knows about this blog.
It is obvious that those close to her are writing on it. It is just as obvious that she does not want to put anything in writing in response to "canned" questions asked to candidates by the newspaper, probably not the questions asked by Mr. McPeters, or any other answers to questions voters have - including on this blog.
Yes I'm quite sure MRS. Joe Vanzant knows about this blog and either reads herself or has others keeping up with the comments. Now she has her own space provided by the blogmaster so there's plenty of opportunity to respond.
Faye
Are you sure they didn't say Mr. Gordon was on a horse instead of a "goldwing"? I've never seen him on a motorcycle (iron horse) but have seen him many times on a horse (real live flesh and blood with flies). He rides pretty well.
not to mention that McPeters mentioned this blog right at the top of the questions that he sent Vanzant. but she probablyt threw that way unread, so I guess that lets her off the hook?
if mrs vanzant is that bad, you know it's almost election time. vote her out of office.
to anonymous Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:53:03 AM
she is telling voters she is a single parent and the proof that she IS married will be on this blog soon.
The persecution of Christ 2000 years ago continues right here in the bible belt. How many of you out there have been writing these vicious rumors and statements, go to church on Sunday and sin again on Monday?
People's private lives are their own business. What you need to concentrate on is how well the work of Giles County is conducted.
nita:
that's such an intelligent way to decide how to vote
doubt your comfort will last long as you don't have enough votes to cancel out ones for the other candidate whom people will be voting for based on solid facts and character traits like honesty, experience in education, business, industry, ability to work with others, and the list of leadership qualities goes on and on ........
great day to you too
anonymous Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:54:52 PM
you must have been under a log not knowing all the lies and fits that woman has told and thrown in the last four years and one thing she hasn’t done is MAINTAINED HER TEMPER AND DIGNITY! she has too much baggage and that is the reason she want answer questions. if she did, the election would be over before all questions could be asked of her.
to,nita and concern citizen
I would like to shed some light on the subject of maintaining a level head and even-temper and probably why you now see both Gordon names on this blog. Last week one of (MRS) Vanzants low-class cronies she has out working on her behalf had the impudence to walk in J C’s barber shop while their son was getting a hair cut and tried to pick him for information about the election.
Their son should be off limits as well as MRS Vanzant’s is and should be.
I am quite sure Ms Vanzant has heard this blog exists. Part of her dignity is measured in not even reading it. If I were her my thought would be "p..s off" to a section being set aside for her. The writer above over steps the mark in refering to Vanzant's and anybody's campaign workers as "low class". Do the people who are writing cruel unfounded remarks against Ms Vanzant not realize it turns against Gordon and their vote will go to where they are trying to throw stones.
Dear undecided voter:
One question please. Would you expect someone with "her dignity" to also be completely "honest"? Just curious because many believe dignity, respect, honesty, character are all leadership qualities and HONESTY is the first of these. If that quality is not present then how can any of the others be?
As for the blog owner setting aside some space for her. He is giving her EVERY opportunity to say SOMETHING in WRITING! He says he is a relative. Therefore, he knows much personal information about her and I'm sure there is much he could add to this blog, were he to decide to. I feel she should be glad he isn't since his knowledge would probably confirm what many are talking about and suspect.
All candidates should be willing to come before the people. Mrs. Vanzant seems to duck and hide in the bushes to avoid coming before the people much of the time.
To Anonymous of July 12
Wake up! There is no such thing as an honest politician - anywhere or any level. Period! They are all going to tell a "little white one" somewhere along the line. Mrs Vanzant HAS been at political rallies and available for the public to speak to her. I have. There is a rally Thurs evening at the Agri Park given by her many friends, its open to the public. Instead of spending your time mouthing off at her on this blog go ask her questions Thurs. And if you go, let me know on this blog. I'll meet ya there.
Undecided vote Wednesday, July 12, 2006 9:21:23 AM it takes a certain kind of person to do what that man did but I bet he will be confronted to his face.
Probably and by an aggressive female.
"Little white lie"??? What about a great BIG red lie? Is that okay with you too?
It seems you are the one "mouthing off". I plan to be at the rally. Don't care much about meeting you. You sound rude. How I spend my time is none of your business either. Why are you so angry?
Never angry - just DECIDED. I'll be looking out for you Thursday evening.
Dear decided voter:
I'm so scared and thanks for the warning. You're probably like the beans they'll be serving though. Full of hot air not much else.
Now that wasn't very nice. You are begining to sound a little testy. I was not threatening/warning you at all just saying I'd be looking for you so we could meet. P.S. sounds like you better grab a burger or something before you go to the rally.
To anonymous Wed. July 12 2006 7:27:02AM
Can you clarify your lie it makes no sense. Are you bashing Mrs. Vanzant's son or cronie? Sounds like you're a Gorden Natzi.
Natzi as in try to make all linked to a certain thing or person evil and hope the mob mentality takes over in an attempt to wipe out your opponent....worked for Hitler but I think the people of Giles county are not as gullable or stupid.
Mr Barrett, I'll get back to you on your observations on how the write-off have been handled and you do offer food for thought. Have you seen the ambulance service account that has been submitted under comments section "Is the Ambulance Director the Only One Appointed Not Elected"? Maybe you can make sense out of it and enlighten us. Theres another guy who provided some school accounts on this blog. Maybe he can look at the ambulance account stuff as well.
Anonymous Thursday, July 13, 2006 12:49:30 PM
my statement was not a lie. my point is, the gordon’s son like mrs vanzant’s is a special needs person. With that said, how would you have handled it? i am a customer of the barber shop.
Mr. Barrett you stated they were faulted year after year...how many years back? And NOBADY has controll over the people who don't pay there bills and if they don't pay there bills even after they are turned over to the collection agency then you have to write them off.If you think you can get the money from those individuals GOOD LUCK.
Nita,
You seem to know more than I do about Ms. Vanzant's personal life. I only know what I have seen in the newspapers and heard from others. I don't know her personally.
Then why are you questioning how much I know? This is so much more than votes it is about lying,
and there is a whole lota lying going on about Mrs. Vanzant.
I could agree with the rest of you but then we would all be wrong.
Let's follow the old school rule. You go first and then I'll go. Let's all start telling the truth. No lies.
Let Mrs. Vanzant start and then the rest of us will follow.
to Tuesday, July 18, 2006 10:12:51 AM
don't worry and wait she does not know the truth.
Nita Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:16:27 AM
I don't care who you vote for!!!!
The facts are coming and I don't want to see another post from you saying I'm wrong. Facts are facts.
jbj cjsWell, give us the facts.
The facts are coming and I don't want to see another post from you saying I'm wrong. Facts are facts.
Testy testy. Are you threatning Nita, trying to bully Nita or can you just not read and comprehend English? I don't believe Nita is saying you are wrong, Nita is just asking for some proof or evidence...provided by you that can confirm your prior accusations?.....and just screaming SHE'S A LIAR!!! doesn't count. You said the facts are coming so bring them on and remember he said she said is not proof that's hearsay.
You can attend the court hearing when the lawsuit is file.
anyone can file a lawsuit...that's nothing special...the important thing is if you can win it. Seems to me people like you who file unwarrented suits are the ones wasting county money. If you take someone to court they have to go and defend themslves regardless. From other statements made on this blog one of you gripped about how Mrs. Vanzant wasted money on frivolous lawsuits but as stated earlier if someone takes you to court you have to go....and remember the only thing won was a title.
Okay Nita:
The best way to decide who to vote for is this:
Go today and follow her white car home. You will drive 3.something miles over in Lincoln County. Don's have time to do that? Get a Lincoln County map and look up Vanzant Road. That is where Joe and Janet Vanzant live.
Then go to Cathy Bassham's office and ask her if a candidate is supposed to live in Giles County to run. Ask her if Ms. Vanzant claimed to live in Giles County. Voila! you'll have your answer.
You don't need to be listening to all this back and forth junk. Do the work for yourself. Seek the truth and ye shall find it - yourself!
Have you ever heard of the saying beating a dead horse. well the residency issue horse has been beaten so much that it is powder. If her residency was an issue then she would have been removed from office 4 years ago and definetly not allowed to run again. It's not against the law to own 2 houses in different counties but live in one of them. I have visited her at her home during the week and on the weekend even at night and guess what she resides in Giles county ...so give it a rest, everyone is tired of listening to your childish tantrums...I bet you even hold your breath and kick and scream while typing that over and over in a desperate attempt to get people to believe lies.
Yes they do give free rides.. Ask Chris Bee....his wife got one when she fell on her job.
If you met with her at the property she owns in Pulaski she knew you were coming. I go by there every day early to get to work at the hospital. You wouldn't believe which rooms are lit up at what time of the wee hours of the morning. Her rotation for staying in Pulaski used to be Tuesday and Thursday. Right now it is Monday and Wednesday. I work weekends too and I can say I have never seen her there on the weekend.You're the one who should get a life and grow up. Timers on lights, cars parked in the driveway, flowers on the porch, flag out front and clothes on the line don't mean anyone lives there.
but people answering the door does.
In reply to Anonymous said on Wed. July 19,2006 at 8:11PM. You should stay anonymous because you speak without knowing what you are talking about. I pay $682.00 a month (which is a third of my monthly pay)for family health insurance which pays 100% on ambulance transport. I don't consider that free. My insurance was billed and the ambulance service was paid in full. My wife was doing volunteer work when she was injured.
What did she volunteer to do?
She was helping Becky Johns at The Bridge Builders Tutoring Center. Becky was moving into a new building and Tina was helping her when she fell off a ladder.
Mr. Gordon,
Comments made on Saturday July 8 2006 11:43:15 PM
About two months ago, a gentleman called me at home and ask if I was elected county executive, did I plan to fire the employees at the ambulance service. At first, I thought it was a joke, but he assured me it wasn’t, and he wanted to inform me, the news of it was spreading all over town……
This morning I spoke with Mr. Griggs again, and he had not told the employees of our earlier conversation. I asked him to please speak to all the employees and I would personally come by and let them know that the comments are blatant lies.
As I stated earlier I am close to several of the people who work at the Ambulance Service and as of today (07-22-06…2 weeks later) none of your former statement has come to pass. Did you really contact Mr. Griggs and if this subject was as important to you as you acted and required great haste to diffuse then why have you not fulfilled your promise. By your angered response it would have seemed that you would have personally disputed those “blatant lies” expeditiously. Seems to me that it’s not that important to you or you thought you could just write anything down and people would believe it without question. I believe that to question is to grow and I did question and what I found out was disturbing and expected, you appear to say things and make promises with the intention of never following through. Where’s the great integrity and truthfulness in that? You made a big huff (written) on a public format then did nothing to back it…and by the way showing up after this post doesn’t count. You have had plenty of time to follow through if it was really important to you and you felt strongly about it. Showing up now or in the near future would only prove that you are playing catch up and trying to sweet talk a few more votes. This seems a little harsh but the way you tried to crucify a citizen of Giles County for simply stating a well known rumor was inappropriate and the irony of it is….is that you may have appeared just in your comments if you had actually followed through with your rantings. You had your chance to truly reassure many concerned individuals but you chose not to…you simply dismissed some very important, special and revered Giles County citizens.
Concerned citizen
Mrs. Holley or closely connected:
The above smoke screen you are trying to throw to change the recent focus off your friend is just that. I just hope you are not doing it on county time. You know about hard D’s don’t you??
well this isn't Ms. Holley and what in the world does hard D's mean. I assure you Mr. Gordon has not shown up to reassure anyone...just ask the employees...which is what I did, but you won't because you don't care about the truth. No smoke screen just clear truth. And why would this have to be Ms. Holley or someone close....there are alot of people out there that seek the truth not rely on others rantings.
Concerned citizen
oh my my…concerned citizen! i read mr gordon’s post again and i simply don’t see a date and time so pleaseeeee show me where you see it. did i touch a little too close to home? obliviously you are seeking the truth according to “the vanzant theory” your comments are just plain laughable!!! you had the last four years to seek the truth and grow but YOU missed YOUR opportunity to be an upstanding giles county concerned citizen!!! you don't know what hard D's are, of course you wouldn't know, that reveals to me just how smart you are.
Concerned Citizen,
You will be real easy to identify.
concerned giles county citizen said...
My understanding Mr. McPeters was that you were to answer each question with a yes or a no answer. Why are you allowing Mr. Gordon to elaborate on his answers? Seems contradictory to me. Does anyone else agree with me? Don't get defensive for me asking. I read your questionnare and I didn't misunderstand what you said. YES or NO answers. That is quite the contrary in this candidates response, because as you can see you cannot answer yes or no.
Friday, July 14, 2006 5:38:21 PM
Anonymous,
What's the point of reposting this from "concerned giles county citizen?" Didn't you see my answer to this, the first time around? And please don't repost comments anywhere other than "best of the blog." Thanks!
to Sundy July 23rd 2006.
The dates are clear the post was on july the 8th and the response was on July the 22nd...2 weeks. No he didn't give a specific time that he would visit because obviously he had no intentions on speaking to them in the first place. HE has had plenty of time to drop by and reassure those employees. he stated it was a serious subject that needed to be dealt with immediatly so I consider 2 weeks plenty of time. You are referring to hard drives...what kind of power do you think you have. Do you really think you have the authority to get my personel computer to look for evidence of accessing a public website and expressing my freedom of speech(oh I'm sorry I forgot it is perfectly OK to bash Mrs. Vanzant but you are not allowed to bring anything up about Mr. Gordon) ...that is laughable, and no you didn't touch anywhere close to home since you obviously have this blind rage against Ms. Holley and only assume that it is her posting. You like to threaten alot...is that the only way you know how to communicate...is that the "Gordon theory"????
Concerned citizen
Nita,
Thanks and by the way the one that used Mr. Bee's name violated the HIPPA law. All matters concerning medical documentation are privilaged and it didn't sound like he knew about it being relesed on a public web site, so someone better be carefull and stop digging in and or asking question about private records then turning around and making innaccurate and slanderous statements.
Where do you see Mr. Bee's name listed other than your post of warning?
Nita,
I remember several of your defensive post for your Bff: Mrs. Vanzant and some of your other comments to Mrs. Gordon referenced her speaking for Mr. Gordon and questioning his ability to speak for himself, think about. You declared in no uncertain terms, “at least Mrs. Vanzant can speak for herself.” Plenty of time has passed for Mrs. Vanzant to do just what you declared she could do and has that happened, No, you and others are back circling the wagons for her yet again. Concerned Citizen, would surely call your hand on this, but I want wait for that to happen.
Anonymous said...
Where do you see Mr. Bee's name listed other than your post of warning?
Monday, July 24, 2006 12:22:01 PM
Anonymous said...
Yes they do give free rides.. Ask Chris Bee....his wife got one when she fell on her job.
Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:11:56 PM
July 24, 2006
Mr. Roy Griggs
% Giles County Ambulance Service
639 East Madison Street
Pulaski, Tennessee 38478
Re: Recent Post
Dear Roy,
I have been informed, yet again, of an anonymous post (which I am including) on gilesfreespeechzone blog questioning whether or not I contacted you some two weeks ago. I don’t remember if it was Saturday or Monday when you returned my call and spoke with Jo Anne regarding the issue of you or your employees being fired by me if elected county executive. Jo Anne informed me you had called and said, “You would speak to all the employees and let them know I had contacted you.” I am assuming you did so, if not, would you please contact me by written form and I am including a self-address stamped envelope so there will be no question who paid for the stamp. This letter to you makes the third time I have addressed this issue with you.
For general information’s sake, I have been sick since the Democratic Women’s Rally with a virus and severe bronchitis and unable to leave the house for a week after finally going for medical help. Unfortunately, this has left me with a list of things to do and places I have needed to go.
Of course, I see this anonymous posting for what it really is and realize the purpose and quite sure who is creating it. I didn’t realize the ruthless nature or the depths people are willing to crawl and with whom that are involved in a certain fraction of local politics. I don’t see the justification to appease two when you have an entire county to deal with.
Respectfully,
Glenn Gordon
rgg/jacg
Copies mailed to: Danny Hardy, Jeff Thomason, Jimmy Young, Chesley Newton, Billy Rose, Caroline Stokes, Larry Sands, Charlie Norwood, Wayne Bass, Ralph Sands, Chris Bee, Amanda Watson, Deborah Butruff, Michelle Thompson, Tommy Gatlin, Douglas Rutherford, Billy Maddox, Michael Dunavant, Bobby Simmons, Gary Pulley, Maria Garrett, Nick Davis, Josh Bass, Vicky Owens, Phyllis Holley, Paula Sigmon and Concerned Citizen “that is closely related to some of these employees”
Att: Roy,
Thank you for confirming by phone this morning, Monday July 24th, that you had indeed informed all of your employees of our earlier conversation, I certainly appreciate it.
Glenn
Mr. Gordon,
Will you be contacting the employees by mail or e-mail
concerned citizen
GO "GET UM" MR. Glenn---So glad to hear you are feeling better. Ms. Joanne and yourself make a great team. I have to say that unlike most of the other candidates your feathers are not so easily ruffled, at least not on little pety things that are of no importance. Keep up the good work and best of luck to you both.
CONCERNED CITIZEN
Please explain how you can put a US postage stamp on an email?
You only mentioned stamps when referring to Mr. Griggs and mailed to for the employees.
Concerned citizen
concerned citizen, do you work at the ambulance service?
No
concerned citizen
concerned citizen, if you don't work there, then it is not any of your goll-darn busines what was sent or not sent to the employees. you are not helping.
Anonymous said...
concerned citizen, if you don't work there, then it is not any of your goll-darn busines what was sent or not sent to the employees. you are not helping.
Wednesday, July 26, 2006 7:02:03 PM
I have already stated that I have friends that work at the ambulance service but it is silly of you to suggest that I should have to work there to be concerned. It is something of a double standard to suggest that I should work there to show care and concern for the employees of the ambulance service when you obviously feel it is ok to criticize and insult without working there. Unless of course you work at the ambulance service yourself.
yours truly,
concerned citizen
Wouldn't this all be public record anyway and Concerned Citizen has the right to know? What is your opinion on that Mr Barrett?
Anonymous said...
GO "GET UM" MR. Glenn---So glad to hear you are feeling better. Ms. Joanne and yourself make a great team. I have to say that unlike most of the other candidates your feathers are not so easily ruffled, at least not on little pety things that are of no importance. Keep up the good work and best of luck to you both.
Tuesday, July 25, 2006 11:21:42 PM
Just a question:
I have just read through this entire blog and have found in entertaining if not informative but I just have to ask; If you are gonna crucify Ms. Vanzant for not answering any questions, how can you say she has her feathers ruffled?
To: Anonymous directly above--I don't know what you are talking about and evidently you don't either. I never even mentioned Mrs. Vanzant in my comment. I simply commended Mr. Gordon for the way he has handled various rumors and accusations. Obviously you are not very informed or you would be aware that there are several other races in the election other than the Co. Exec. race.
Mr. Gordon is only running against one other person. While I understand that there are many people running for other positions but it is a reasonable assumption that if you are comparing Mr. Gordon with other candidates it would be his opponent. As far as the other comment all I was pointing out is that if you are gonna fault Ms. Vanzant for being non-communicative in other postings then you can't very well determine whether her feathers are ruffled or not.
concerned citizen
your copy from mr. gordon is here at the ambulance office you can pick it up when you want to.
To anonymous July 27 3:31:34---I don,t know why you would "assume" that I have ever "found fault" with Mrs. Vanzant. Contrary to your belief, I have defended Janet on more than a few accations. Do you not realize that there are many "anonymous" postings on this blog just as yourself and I? I would greatly appreciate it if you would not continue to take things out of context just because you are misinformed. Or better yet, maybe I should "assume" that you are just another trouble maker who has nothing better to do with their time. Furthermore, since you seem to be so far behind as to the goings on with the many candidates, there have been several conflicts with the Register Of Deeds and also the Commissioners races. Unlike most of the others involved in these conflicts, Mr. Gordon, as I simply tried to point out, doesn't let these accusations and rumors get to him. He just states the facts in a most dinified manor. It all makes me wonder if some of these people simply have no diginity left.
As far as the Register of Deeds race, Bill Ralston also stated the facts in the blog entitled "The Answers Are In, Part Two".
Anonymous said...
concerned citizen
your copy from mr. gordon is here at the ambulance office you can pick it up when you want to.
Thursday, July 27, 2006 3:31:34 PM
Sounds like anonymous IS an employee in the office...are you?
Why would I need to go get a copy of what is on this blog from the Ambulance Service. All Mr. Gordon did was send the exact same comment made Monday, July 24, 2006 7:43:18 PM and distibuted to some of the employees but still not in person and still no "I would personally come by and let them know that the comments are blatant lies." The request was not to appease anybody but to reassure the employees that if you are elected that somehow the previous director and the previous secretary won't somehow find there way back in and pressure those that don't agree with them out.
concerned citizen
Concerned Citizen,
You are NOT making any sense at all! You have stated you were friends with MANY of the employees at the Ambulance Service and now you have say in the above post,
“Sounds like anonymous IS an employee in the office...are you?”
OOPS, sounds like you are not that “concerned” as you were claiming to be!! Please don’t be concerned for me or anyone else. You’ve got a beef with someone and you are not what you were trying to make us all believe.
YOUR HAND HAS BEEN CALLED, NOW YOUR SUDDENLY NOT SO INTERESTED!!!!!!
Concerned Citizen,
You are NOT making any sense at all! You have stated you were friends with MANY of the employees at the Ambulance Service and now you have say in the above post,
“Sounds like anonymous IS an employee in the office...are you?”
OOPS, sounds like you are not that “concerned” as you were claiming to be!! Please don’t be concerned for me or anyone else. You’ve got a beef with someone and you are not what you were trying to make us all believe.
YOUR HAND HAS BEEN CALLED, NOW YOUR SUDDENLY NOT SO INTERESTED!!!!!!
Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:07:06 PM
To the anonymous person who posted the reply pasted above....
Apparently you are somewhat out of touch with reality. The anonymous poster you were replying to has obviously exhibited concern for the ambulance service employees in the previous postings....I think the only person who has had their hand called is you....I think it is perfectly reasonable for someone to assume that whoever posted the comment regarding the letter at the ambulance service is an employee..because why else would that person feel free to invite someone in to get their letter. I think it is you who is making no sense and I'm tired of seeing you trying to bully the person who is defending the ambulance service. The fact is that person is within his/her rights to question Mr. Gordon or any candidate that they wish. You need to put a sock in it.
Concerned,
Will let us know when you go get your letter?
I think that the person posting under the name of concerned citizen already said that they did not need to go get a letter that Mr. Gordon has been so kind as to post on the internet. You must have trouble with reading comprehension...perhaps you should go to Sylvan and work on that.
anonymous Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:49:46 PM if you will read the latest post from concerned, the other comment makes perfect sense. whether sylvan is needed, maybe you should car pool with the other anonymous.
even a fool can see their hand has been called and i bet that letter will never be picked up. now where is the real concern????
It sounds like there may be some employees feeling guilty and starting to sweat
Anonymous said...
anonymous Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:49:46 PM if you will read the latest post from concerned, the other comment makes perfect sense. whether sylvan is needed, maybe you should car pool with the other anonymous.
even a fool can see their hand has been called and i bet that letter will never be picked up. now where is the real concern????
Friday, July 28, 2006 8:21:26 AM
You are so dense...why would the person posting as concerned citizen need to pick up a letter that is posted on the internet. Concerned citizen is not the only person who cares about the fine men and women working at the amublance service. The question is do you care? Also you seem to call into question concerned citizen's sincerity when they questioned whether or not you worked at the ambulance service but it was your own post that suggested that you might indeed work at the ambulance service. You stated:
Please don’t be concerned for me or anyone else. You’ve got a beef with someone and you are not what you were trying to make us all believe.
YOUR HAND HAS BEEN CALLED, NOW YOUR SUDDENLY NOT SO INTERESTED!!!!!!
Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:07:06 PM
The concerned citizen did not say they were concerned with you but with the employees of the ambulance service....so why would you tell concerned citizen not to be concerned with you unless you were in fact an employee of the amublance service yourself. If you are employed by the ambulance service, why would you be attacking a blogger who has only been positive about the ambulance service and asked for explanations that would benefit the employees there. And before you ask, no I don't work at the ambulance service and no I don't know anyone there. Back off concerned citizen and be thankful someone cares enough to ask the hard questions.
A Citizen Who Hates Bullies!
I am concerned for the dedicated employees that just want to care for the citizens of Giles County...to be able to do their job...their calling without the interference of some that only want to drag the whole service down for their own agenda. I don't believe my hand has been called but that yours has been seen. Perhaps you are the one that has been creating and releasing false and inaccurrate information against the Ambulance service and certain employees (remember HIPPA)....for what...political or personnel gain...who knows and who cares, either way you should be ashamed. Sometimes it only takes one bad wheel to cause a machine to fail and that may very well be your goal but I have confidence and faith that the heart and soul of the ambulance service (the employees) are to strong to allow that to happen.
Concerned citizen
well said "Concerned Citizen"...I hope there are more citizens out there like you...Go Janet!
To Concerned Citizen,
It seems as if your coherent and logical arguments have finally made the anonymous blogger with the poisen pen (or keyboard if you wanna get technical) shut the heck up. Hurray for you concerned citizen....
To Concerned Citizen,
(Copies “MAILED” to: Concerned Citizen “that is closely related to some of these employees”)
As you can see, Mr. Gordon made it clear the method of delivery for his letter.
(Will you be contacting the employees by mail or e-mail)
Therefore, no need for your next question above!
No, I do not or never have worked at the ambulance service and I only know two employees, Mr. Griggs and Mr. Sands but not personally!
You claimed to be so close to the employees, but you didn’t know Mr. Gordon had already spoken with Mr. Griggs and three times at that! I just found your post confusing and contradicting! You should have checked before your first scathing post, that’s all.
Anonymous Saturday, July 29, 2006 5:01:05 PM
(I hope there are more citizens out there like you)
I Don’t!
Anonymous Monday, July 31, 2006 10:43:01 PM
WRONG, just out of town!!
You claimed to be so close to the employees, but you didn’t know Mr. Gordon had already spoken with Mr. Griggs and three times at that! I just found your post confusing and contradicting! You should have checked before your first scathing post, that’s all.
The first that the employees heard anything about this subject was when they recieved the copy of the post...I don't believe that's 3 times. whether Mr.Griggs had heard about it prior I cannot say but the employees did not. You should ask questions for yourself and check before you make assumptions. Anything can be written and believed if you don't ask questions at the source,as I have said before, but it still seems like a few of you are content with accepting whatever is said instead of going to the source and asking yourself. And by the way the "letters" (copies of what was on this blog, not anything new and definately no reassurances)were not Mailed they distributed out to some of the employees at the Ambulance Service Building. All it takes is the time and concern to ask a few simple questions.
Concerned citizen
Concerned.
[were not Mailed they distributed out to some of the employees at the Ambulance Service]
Yes, they did come thru the US Mail and then given to each employee!!! I don't know who you are getting your infomaiton from, but it is just plain wrong.
They were not mailed to the individuals and this is a stupid argument anyway . whether they had a postage stamp on them or not doesn't change the content or sentament. A postage stamp doesn't make something personnable and definately doesn't reassure anybody of anything. They weren't paying attention to the postage stamp but what was in the envelope, which was nothing more than what was written on Monday, July 24, 2006 7:43:18 PM.
Concerned Citizen
Hey Concerned, where in the heck were you when Mrs. Vanzant marched into the ambulance office and fired the other employees??????
From the evidence Iv'e seen she had full justification in what she did...in the chain of command she is the boss. And besides if she was wrong or unjust in her actions those fired would have gotten their jobs back after the litigations but they didn't. I do believe she gave those involved plenty of time to try to correct what they were not doing correctly but they chose not to try or just refused to try.If it were found that they had been unjustly fired they would have been given their jobs back so logically that proves that she had just cause in her decisions (enough tangeble proof to stand up in a court of law)....And by the way your getting off track that has nothing to do with the previous conversation, sounds like you're using the distaction tecnique. When you can't defend or argue a point anymore....change the subject.That was 3 years ago this is here and now. As I said before I believe some individuals motivation is vengance....is that your motivation....sound like you would cut your nose off to spite your face?
Concerned citizen
It’s amazing how some people's true colors usually come out in the end and concerned yours just came out in the above post.
Concerned citizen:
Who died and made you GOD!!!!!!!!!!!
You are right, it is amazing how some people's true colors come through...such as the way yours have come through with your posts. Nobody died and made me God but I have an inkling of how Jesus Christ felt on the cross because you guys have been trying to crucify me for stating a well known rumor and simply asking questions. A court of law is not God but it is all we have available to us to sort out facts and find the truth and it seems to unnerve some that what the courts ruled did not comply with what you wanted.
Concerned Citizen
I believe concerned citizens true colors are coming out and those colors are RED WHITE AND BLUE. this blog was supposedly opened to take advantae of freedom of speech not freedom to try to run over people with a different opinion. and your long and witty combacks are lacking Iv'e heard better on the schools playround. Next are you going break out with liar liar pants on fire!
Dear Concerned
I am on your side but you are wrong about the letters. My husband works at the ambulance service and each employee got a letter that was individually addressed and mailed to them at the office.
Re: The Rumor
Yes, my husband was informed of the rumor that if elected, Mr. Gordon was going to fire the employees and had concerns as you did. However, together we went seeking the truth on our own and found the following, “the rumor was started, much like the last rumor, for political gain with no truth to it at all. It took us a long time to finally come to this decision, but the facts didn’t lie.
I hope your source is not intentionally giving you the wrong information.
Dear anonymous,
I am also close to someone at the ambulance service just as you and the concerned citizen are. I think if you reread the statement put forth by concerned citizen you will see that he/she did in fact acknowledge that each employee received a letter but that that it was only a copy of the same letter that was posted the day before on the website.
I feel that your post was very polite and respectful and I appreciate that but I do disagree regarding the source and intent of the rumor. I hope you are right and that the rumor has no merit, however, many remain concerned regarding the fate of the ambulance service
Once again I appreciate the mature and civil response.
To the concerned citizen.
You seen to know alot about what has happened at the ambulance service,I think you stated three years,however you apparently don't know as much as you think you do.The court records(as you refer them to)will only show that there was one person fired,that being Terry Porter who was director at the time, not several or many as you have said.The records will also show that the county executive only has the power to fire the director of the ambulance service,also this is stated in county resoulations,the employee's can be fired by the director.Also to be noted here is the fact that the only law suit against the county that was settled in court was awarded to the employee not the county executive.If you are going to try to show what has happened use the real facts not try to put ideas in people heads to create something different
This is from WKSR web site
Porter To File Federal Papers Against County
Posted on May 14, 2004
The fight continues between former Giles County Ambulance Service Director Terry Porter and the county. Pulaski attorney Bobby Massey says that his client is prepared to go to federal court with the case.
“We are preparing the complaint now and expect to have it filed within the next week to ten days,” says Massey.
According to Porters attorney, the county was granted certain immunities under state law. Massey says the decision was made to drop the case locally and file a case in the federal court system.
Porter was fired last year by County Mayor Janet Vanzant. Porter then filed suit against the county asking for reinstatement as director of the ambulance service....
Porter dropped his lawsuit against the county last week, but reserved the right to file in federal court.
Just an observation,
2 yrs + months or 3 years, exact time is irrelevant what is rellavant is that there obviously wasn't strong enough evidence to reinstate I.E. no case.
It was the previous anonymous that mentioned employees and I'm assuming they are refering to Mr. Porter and the previous secretary. So you (previous anonymous)are saying that the secretary position others on this blog have been blaming on Vanzant is not her doing after all, only Mr. Porter's position?
previous blog
Here are the basics of what happen…Ms. Holley…was just a secretary at the Ambulance Service…she “Holley” helped Ms. Vanzant when the was running last term for county executive…she kept secret records on the employee over her…so Ms Vanzant would have an excuse to fire her and put Ms Holley in her position.
After Vanzant fired the employee…the employee asked for a reason to no avail. She hired a lawyer, sued and Vanzant had to turn the records over to the lawyer.
There was a lawsuit…and the employee won the suit!!!!
Monday, July 03, 2006 8:57:33 AM
And what was rewarded was only a Title.
SO I agree and commend concerned citizen for their research. They may not have gotten the time frame completely correct but the rest seems to add up.
Another observation from reading this blog, if Vanzant was out to get Mr. Porter's job then why did it take so long. It does appear that she did give him ample time to prove himself as Diretor and since he wasn't reinstated it does seem to prove that she had good reason to release him.
Tuesday,August 01,2006 9:42:57 PM
What was the good reason to release him
This is getting more and more irritating by each post due to the fact, Concerned has repeatedly made it clear he/she believes the rumor and if he/she was so doggone close to the employees should have known the only person the county executive could fire is the director!! WOW!
Who did Vanzant hire as the new director? Did he/she then fire the secretary and was that a prerequisite for getting the job in the first place?
Now my question to Concerned is, what are your motives for continually posting your belief the rumor had merit and in my opinion, try to convince the readers on this blog?
who really cares what concerned believes??? do you, i don't. she did fire the old director, but only because he wasn't doing his job. the old secretary quit on her own, if you read the papers you would've read this. the old director thought he could run the place the way he wanted and not have to listen to vanzant. and yes the secretary does keep notes on all employees there. she kept them on the old secretary also. she had to have her job title, so she pushed her out of the way.
anonymous Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:06:11 AM
no wonder there is so much hostility involved at the ambulance service!
To Anonymous Tuesday, August 01, 2006 7:41:53 PM
(I think if you reread the statement put forth by concerned citizen you will see that he/she did in fact acknowledge that each employee received a letter but that that it was only a copy of the same letter that was posted the day before on the website.)
Concerned wrote, in the August 01, 2006 3:10:13 PM post, “They were “NOT MAILED” to the individuals.” Now, I don’t know how you came to the conclusion I needed to reread the post.
(received a letter but that it was only a copy of the same letter that was posted the day before on the website.)
How could anyone not understand the letter was anything but a copy since it clearly states at the bottom of the original letter, “copies mail to?”
Is all of this info and statements made by anonymous concerned citizen just a last day or minute attempt to make the Vanzant camp look good.Perhaps they are creating it theirself to cover up for the lies and disception of the last four years
the dadgum letter is the exact same thing as posted on here.
My motivation is purely out of concern for the employees of Giles County Ambulance Service. I hope with every fiber of my being that the rumor is indeed false but as I have stated before from reading some of the other anonymous' post that brasingly threatens jobs {Thursday July 6 7:43:50 PM about job security and another on Giles two cents worth under Email Topics: Ambulance Service Writeoffs....25 April 2006 17:50..."perhaps you will be able to keep your job after the election..." }
it seems to give that rumor merit. Someone out there seems to think they can openly threaten others jobs.
Also it is hypocritical of any and all anonymous to state that I am trying to influence others by supporting Vanzant and wondering if the rumor is true when you have no problem REPEATADLY demonizing Mrs. Vanzant and fabricating many lies and rumors yourselves. This also appears to be an attempt to sway voters and convince them that your fabrications are true.
Yes I do support Mrs. Vanzant and that is neither wrong nor evil but my right and choice. None of what I stated is to cover up lies or deciet, but only to reveal what really happened as anonymous explained above {she did fire the old director, but only because he wasn't doing his job. the old secretary quit on her own, if you read the papers you would've read this. the old director thought he could run the place the way he wanted and not have to listen to vanzant.}
7-3-06 is election day, good luck to all and may the best WOMAN win.
Concerned citizen
To Concerned,
(7-3-06 is election day)
Someone please wake up Concerned and let he/she know the real date of the election. After all your post, we are supposed to believe you know what you are talking about, what a joke!!!!!
Hey concerned, who won the July 3, 2006 election??????
You guys are so silly so concerned made a typo if I spelled deception, disception like someone did in the following post pasted below I wouldn't be throwing any rocks!!
Anonymous said...
Is all of this info and statements made by anonymous concerned citizen just a last day or minute attempt to make the Vanzant camp look good.Perhaps they are creating it theirself to cover up for the lies and disception of the last four years
Wednesday, August 02, 2006 7:40:25 PM
Friend of concerned citizen
Yeah really I've noticed a lot of folks around here could use help with their spelling.
I want to set the record straight. The trouble at the Ambulance Service lies square on the shoulders of Mrs. Phyllis Holley and one other employee. Mrs. Vanzant will probably award them with some kind of service plaque for all their disgusting covertly acts against other employees and the general public. That is her kind of people!
who is the other employee???
could it be concerned Maria
maria who? what does she have to do with anything?
This is concerned citize and no it is not concerned maria. Sounds like you have a bad case of sour grapes. Didn't your Mama teach you not to be a sore loser?
Concerned Citizen:
Did your mother teach the conduct you showed during the campaign? Just go back into your hole with the rest of the stupid people!
so what sbout the ambulance service now???
Sorry, I don't know what the word "sbout" means. You will have to explain that one to me!!
I don't know who's fault it is but as gas prices soar, do't you think that the mambulance service should be allowed to do their personal business on the clock like going to walmart and parking and going inside and doing their personal business and the city is footing the gas, which we help paying taxes.sorry if this offends anyone, but this question has been on my mind for awhile...any answers?
Deborah
FYI the MAMBULANCES do not burn GAS. The city Does foot any bills for the ambulance service. Get your facts straight.
The city does not foot any bills.
I think it is understandable that the police, fire and ambulance personnel have to take care of personal business on duty from time to time. The ambulance personnel work for 24 hours at a time so if they have to run an errand around town I don't think it is a big deal.
deborah, the county is who pays for the gas of the ambulance service. if you'd like to carry them food and whatever else they might need i'm sure that some money could be saved and they would appreciate it to.
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