A THREAD TO BLAST WAB AND OTHER "TROUBLEMAKERS"!
In an effort to try and keep comments focused on the topics this thread offers everyone the opportunity to criticize me without detracting from the posted topics. Allen Barrett
posted by Allen Barrett | 10:56 PM
177 Comments:
wab..
Why bother? You apparently see absolutely nothing wrong with your actions and behavior.
Wow, didn't take you long 7:27. For people who don't care for WAB and get tired of his opinions, you seem to make it priority to keep up with him. You just can't help yourself, can you?
7:46
No, I'm afraid I can't help myself. As long as these people get on here and try to ruin those they dislike, I will be here, the Lord willing, to offer at least an opposing view. Again, isn't that what free speech and dialogue are all about?
I'd like to suggest that the "blogmaster" begin a thread for those being blasted by wab and other troublemakers. Tit for tat? Right?
I can't help myself and you can't stand it!
No WAB! The anonymous posters really don't want to criticize you. They are using ANY MEANS they can to keep the focus off of what is being revealed on the blog topics. They think they can come back and back and back and post criticisms of you and anyone else that reveals information that has been kept under cover "for 200 years" and that they can keep on sending bombs your way that we will eventually tire of coming to the blog and sharing information that ALL need to know. But they are wrong. Dead wrong! People are beginning to see the light. As they see the light they will begin to demand change.
That is right 8:38. They are the ones that have their comfort zone invaded. Very arrogant on their part to think that questions cannot be asked. No one is trying to keep them from exercising their right to free speech. It is comical how they react to being questioned and even funnier is how they try to throw the ten commandments in at that point. What happened to following the good book up until that point. I'll tell ya the answer to that question. The good lord's name is mentioned isn't until is serves their interest. Don't they call that lukewarm? They can continue all they want to counteract those of us in opposition to how our elected and county officials conduct business in this county but, people like me will also continue to exercise my right to free speech and speak my mind. Change is coming just not the change those being questioned would like. It is so funny to watch them squirm!!
8:38
You are the one who is wrong if you think I would prefer criminal activity to be kept hidden and guilty parties not punished. NO, I am the kind of person who loves and believes what Hank Williams, Jr. sang in a song. If they are found guilty, then they should swing quickly..instead of writing books and smiling on TV. I cannot speak for others who post on this blog, but I am not in favor of covering anything up! So, that argument doesn't hold water with me.
The thing that bothers me about what you "muckrakers" are doing is that you disregard the criminal justice system and the electoral process as proper ways to not only demand but to effectively bring about change. Once you have "exposed" wrong, then it's not your game anymore. It's as simple as that. Why can't you take your evidence of crime to the proper authorities and exercise your right to vote when elections come along?
Mr. Barrett, do you really think they will go to this post to put their sad remarks. No they will still post on the topic you put on there.
Try to ignore them. They have no manners. They jus like to disagree.
Thanks for keeping us informed. Some of us are to old and health want let us get out in check on things. We like to know what is going on. I've noticed they don't tell us what is wrong with what you said, just like to blast you.
8:31
Change is coming? Could you enlighten us as to what your perception of that change is? You said it's so funny to watch them squirm; who are they? Excuse me, but you sound a lot like a sixties radical with that "we shall overcome" mentality.
8:57 Please remove your rose colored glasses. You speak of the criminal justice system. Don't you watch the state or national news. The criminal justice systems does not always work does not always choose to work. It can be for various reasons. Consider this. Would the distict attorney want to go after another elected official IF he was going to run for election again. It would sorta be like playing russian roulette. I'll explain in case you didn't get my meaning. It would be like turning a loaded gun to your own temple and pulling the trigger. Crazy unless you wanted to die. Our district attorney has turned a blind eye to many things. For example the county mayor who does not live in our county. Citizens are to blame too. She has hauled almost $480,000 to her bank because we are too stupid to speak up. Maybe we are scared. Maybe we like her so much we want her to dupe us. That is just one example of the local da not doing his job. No this isn't another negative comment about another politician. It is a fact that he ignores stuff until it becomes so painful for him not to address the illegal activity.
9:08 I see I peaked your interest. You know so much that you should already know. You are asking me for information?Kinda funny isn't it? Up to this point everything I said was discarded. Guess everyone will just have to be patient and see. Nothing radical about me. I'm a pretty simple person with an opinion. The opinion part is what disturbs you. Yes, I have one just like you. I don't have to prove anything to you. I have done my homework and if you want to know anything further I suggest you do your own research. By no means would I reveal myself and information. I definitely would not want to jeopardize my position.
Guess you will just to be curious and assume.
Not 9:08 but agree with what said there. Not curious about you at all. Just wonder why you don't want to reveal yourself and your information if you do know so much more than others. Unless you are involved somehow. What was discarded that you said? Why would that be funny to you?
9:08
Well, what would you suggest then? How about a lynch mob or the hiring of a hit man? If the DA ignores criminal activity and if you have the "truth", why then don't you go over his head to whomever that might be? Surely, you don't think even his superiors are corrupt as well? I always had the idea that illegal activity is prosecutable; is that not the case here?
9:33 Politicians protect politicians. People in positions of power think they are above the law. Did you happen to see that movie about that Governer of Louisiana. What was his name?
But how far do you need to go to find someone who will prosecute illegal activity? Everyone is not corrupt and dishonest as the elect few on this blog would have you to think.
9:33
Your post is so laughable. And isn't it "kinda funny" how 10:14 took issue with what you had to say?
Blast WAB! Blast Blast WAB! Blast him for trying to tell us what we should be interested enough in knowing to work to gather the information ourselves. Blast him darnnit for trying to show us where our taxdollars are spent. Blast! Blast! Blast! Blast him for believing in the Lord God and blast you for throwing that in his face all the time. Blast! Blast! Blast! Hey all you folks that don't care about your money how bout you leave your wallets and checkbooks in front of the post office this friday at 9 p.m. We'll help you spend the rest of your money that you don't seem to care where it goes.
Tp 12:41
What a foolish post. Why don't you take something to calm yourself down and then go take a much-needed afternoon nap?
To the 10 June, 11:50 AM poster.
On a different thread you wrote, "wab Your excellency, why didn't you clarify YOUR meaning of the word when you wrote that post? There are so many of us who are beneath you in intelligence, so a little compassion and understanding on your part would have been helpful, don't you think? You should go back and read my 8:19 post and then you would know that I understood what you meant.
NO, I did not ask you sarcastically what Jesus would do; I asked it in a very literal and serious way. Sure Christ became angry and ran the money changers out of the temple. Certainly God killed Uzza for disobeying him. Yes, we have both a loving and wrathful God. I thinkw e all know that who serve the living God.
By the way, please explain to me how "feelings" are unrelated to the formation of opinions. Would you be so kind. And finally, did I not address an issue on this thread by asking about our judicial and criminal justice systems in place to deal with those who break the law? Did I not ask about nepotism laws? I think I did."
I'm sure that in your mind you didn't mean anything sarcastic in your addressing me as "Your excellency" but for some that sets the tone of your whole statement.
The reason I didn't feel a need to clarify the term I used, beyond its own simple meaning, is because I was addressing a large group of intelligent people most of whom had no problem comprehending the term or its meaning. Perhaps I could show a greater consideration, I remember the trouble you had understanding that anal had nothing to do with a persons anatomy, and submit, for your approval, a list of words and their definitions that I might someday use. I did go back and read your 8:19 post and it was just as absurd the second time I read it and gave no greater indication of your comprehension as does your post that I am now responding to.
Whether you asked sarcastically or not the tone was certainly that of a sarcastic post revealing you to be as critical as out of touch. I gave you an example of "what Jesus DID do when he was confronted by the "in-bred" (this word means an arbitrarily narrow social or cultural association) Pharisees. Perhaps you don’t remember this part of the Bible because it was somewhat critical of those in powerful positions who were abusing or misusing that power. Thieves and vipers were among the nicer things Jesus called this bunch of cranial bovine cretins.
You asked, “By the way, please explain to me how "feelings" are unrelated to the formation of opinions”. That is indeed a very strange question for you to ask of me as I have never disassociated feelings from opinions. Feelings, for the most part, are the basis of our opinions. The simple fact that an opinion is a belief not based on absolute certainty shows its close relationship to feelings. A person can hold an opinion that seems to be true in their own mind but would actually remain open for dispute. Example, some are of the opinion that Richard Petty was the greatest stockcar driver ever. On the other hand there are certain truths which by unprejudiced scientific examination are beyond dispute by anyone. Example, throw a bowling ball ten feet straight up and it will fall back to the Earth. I’m sure you’re aware of these things but like so much other information you choose to ignore it. Sorry for you. Allen Barrett
It's not just Giles Government, it's everywhere.
Some say Janice is not living in Giles County.
Some say Oboma is not an American citizen.
If this is true why was either one allowed to run for office?
The term is cover-up and lack of interest on the part of voters.
3:56 If you mean Janet (Vanzant) and not "Janice", here is the answer
Janet Vanzant lives with her husband and son in Lincoln county. The house on E College Street belonged to a relative of Vanzants and it went into Vanzants name in about 2000. State elections office decided that was enough to allow her to run for office in Giles county even though the laws says you must be a resident. About twice a year you will see a vehicle parked in the drive on College Street. She used to have timers on the lamps in the house but hasnt bothered with that for a couple of years.
Sign me Neighbor
wab
In my mind.......doesn't that sound a bit arrogant on your part? Of course, you will say no and excuse yourself by saying you were trying to describe my behavior or something absurd like that. You talk about what I choose to ignore. Well, it seems to me that you have elected (no pun intended) to ignore your own arrogance and feelings of self-worth. Perhaps those feelings are the basis for your inflated "opinion" of self. By the way, do you ignore that part of the Bible where humility and pride of life are addressed? I just wondered.
Haven't you figured it out by now that I am not going to give you a free pass on anything you choose to say?
5:16 Well I have 'figured out' what YOU are doing IS NOT what Jesus WOULD do!! It might be a good idea for YOU to read the ENTIRE Bible before commenting on it again....just MY 'feelings'. :-)
5:16 it would be nice if you were in your mind every now and then being out of your mind has to be rather straining on you and it's showing.
6:36
How arrogant of you to assume that I know nothing about the Bible. What do you know about it that allows you to pass judgment on me?
To howard
What? Go back and read what you wrote. Have you been drinking?
Callie here.....9:35pm must have nothing to do with her/his time than harass the good ppl of Giles County. It is a loosing battle to even try to talk logic to 9:35pm. NO ONE on this blog has been MORE arrogant, acted as though THEY were 'drinking' or has passed MORE judgement than 9:35pm! Don't blow a fuse 9:35, it's just MY opinion and as you have said on past threads I, as you, have a RIGHT to MY opinion! Good day.........
Callie..
Those who call others names and do anything within their means to malign and ruin them are considered "good people of Giles County"? I don't think so!
I respect your "opinions" along with your right to voice them, but please give others like me that same courtesy!
You are being shown plenty courtesy and no I am not Callie. No one is maligning or conspiring to ruin someone. What do you and others not understand when someone posts on this blog their opinion based on their own personal experiences? It is very arrogant of you and anyone else to discount or discard someone's feelings when you know nothing about their experiences. Who are you to say I am a liar or anyone? We are talking about public figure heads in this county and not private citizens. Persons who work for the county paid for by yours and my tax dollars is open to public scrutiny at anytime. If they don't like it then they should have taken a job in the private sector. It isn't my job to protect the feelings of them and their families. It is however their responsibility to their job to the utmost of their ability. If they do their job right the likelihood of being scrutinized is much slimmer. But, any idiot should know that when working for a county entity paid for by tax dollars,you are accountable to the people.
To Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:35:00 PM you wrote "To howard
What? Go back and read what you wrote. Have you been drinking?"
No drinking here, but it's obvious you've had a few tall glasses of stupid. You stated it was arrogant for a poster to suggest you were in your mind so I simply concurred with you that you were out of your mind, but you knew that.
8:39
Who called YOU a liar? It wasn't me! Who said county and state employees are NOT accountable to their superiors? It wasn't me!
And no, you don't show courtesy to others who have differing opinions by calling them names. Don't believe me? Just take a look at the last paragraph howard wrote at 8:50. That reference was to barrett, and he totally misunderstood it. Brilliant, right?
...and still, it continues...
You guys sound so childish... Talk about something real..... What about Judge Damron getting arrested again for a DUI...AGAIN!!!
Isn't it about time he step down and get some help?
If this be true, then he should step down or be asked to resign.
Damron has several DUI's. The Pulaski police simply stop him and take him home, no charges, no record, no embarrassment only preferential treatment for a drunk with power.
Can anyone prove this happened? Was it in another county or Giles? If anyone has any further information I would like to know. I would be happy to research it and find out but, need to know where to start.
This truly is a situation that warrants an immediate investigation.
I agree 8:40. If this is true, then how can someone sit in judgment on something he himself is also guilty of. I understand that in his court he expects or rather demands respect and is very particular about how you present yourself in court be it the close you wear and so on. It is time if this is true to demand that respect back. What a lousy excuse for a judge. How can anyone respect him if he has done this?
I'm new to this site, but here's my take on it. The media in a community is charged with the responsibility to act as a watchdog over public officials, elected/appointed bodies and how taxpayer dollars are being spent.
Given the absence of any real media in this town, a void exists that is being filled by this blog (for the most part). The tone of some of the responses to authentic and justifiable questions tells me that our local "media czar" (loosely defined) has been allowed to monopolize with no competition because this community would never tolerate a real newspaper - i.e. one that asks the hard questions, sheds light in very dark corners and blows the lid off the prevailing mentality here that "it's always been done this way" and by the same people - generation after generation. The sad state of Giles County today is the consequence of all that has gone before.
The prevailing mentality here? That's why we need people like you to "straighten us out" and help us to learn higher-order thinking. Maybe all is not hopeless here amidst all the "corruption" and ignorance.
849 Prevailing mentality here is more than able & capable to take care of business. Maybe we'll to stop the us 'n him BS and learn that rats foment division to steal your meal.
While you are trying to figure out what he'll do to you next, he'll be doing the same thing to you that he did the last time. (law of what goes round comes round)
8:50
Who is he? What is he supposed to be doing now that he did last time? What is this us 'n him thing? Don't you mean us 'n them? Very confusing.
Yes, the prevailing mentality here has always been able to take care of business. That's sorta like "got along without you before I met you, gonna get along withoput you now".
If the prevailing mentality here has been able to take care of business why are there no businesses left here and unemployment is over 10%?
Maybe the prevailing mentality ain't prevailing so good?
Right. I supoose we need people like you to show us what to do and how to think?
So......what solutions do you propose, other than getting rid of anyone in public office you dislike?
I just asked a question 8:39. Whatever the solution may be it clearly can't be "business' as usual can it?
4:36
I would agree with you that business as usual isn't always good and certainly not a viable solution when there is evidence of wrongdoing or criminal activity. We don't have Boston tea parties anymore, and neither do we need mob violence. There are institutions in place to take care of the criminals. In addition, there's an electoral process for removing undesirable elected officials who are not doing their jobs.
Furthermore, I think the county needs a "go getter" industrial recruiter, although I realize that success in that arena may be slow in coming with today's economy. I also believe those convicted of crimes should go to jail and not continually be given probation or slaps on the wrists.
Beyond these ideas, I am clueless as to what else could and should be done. What say you?
Alf
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah...that's all I hear from you Alf. You got one thing right though, you are clueless.
I knew I would get that idiotic response. I offer some of my less than intellectual insights (in comparison to yours), and that's the thanks I get. Childish.
Alf
At least you got my point, Alf. Who's calling who names? You're remarkable!
10:19
I didn't call you a name; I was describing your behavior. Can you not see the distinction? I didn't call you an idiot. I SAID it was an idiotoic response (behavior).
You know, I tried to offer what I believe to be some helpful remedies for the county, and you have to act like (behavior) a horse's ass.
Alf.
He, She, It is always describing someone's behavior, never stooping to the level of calling anyone a name! NOT
You nailed it 8:51. It must be so sad to live such a pathetic life. You see no one commenting on this blog in defense of Alf. Should be pause for reflection. However, that is Alf's arrogance(behavior)that won't allow it. Let's call Alf an IT since we can't tell man or woman and eliminate the he/she stuff. Seems to me in my recollection the character on tv some years ago was an anteater. Always sticking their nose in a hole somewhere. Describes Alf perfectly don't you think? LOL
You mean Alfred is really a man? I thought that was a disguise.
I'm having a hard time trying to figure out which side everyone is on.
From some of the post on "Mowing" I think Alfred is against WAB, next I think no he agrees with WAB. I wonder if it's the same person is signing his/her name Alf.
That is what is called oblifuscate 9:40. Someone that obfuscates so completely obliterating all meaning. A real winner huh?! Don't worry IT will go stick it's head back in the sand, I mean hole.
9:16
Hey, you are so intelligent! I posted on the "Roger Strickland" thread that I was through with this. A relative pointed out to me something today that I should have already known about this "free speech" blog. The reason there are so few who would align themselves with me on this forum is simple; and it's all so clear to me now. The reason is that intelligent and classier Giles Countians wouldn't come here in the first place. Perhaps that serves as somewhat of an indictment of me as well, but that's the situation. They do not respond to you people's attacks because they refuse to get down to your level. Moreover, professional people just overlook all the rantings, ravings, accusations, and etc. They know who started all this and who most of his cohorts are. So there you have it. So, as far as this blog goes, you people can have it. I will no longer cast MY intellectual pearls before swine.
Bye y'all!
Alf
Yeah sounds like a broken record Alf. Are you going on each thread and casting your intellectual pearls? And that phrase...hasn't someone already pointed out you use it too much. Can't think of anything else substantive to say with each post? We thought you were leaving. Remember, don't let the door hit you in the rear on the way out.
Sorry Alf but your "intellectual pearls" have been evaluated and found to be poor copies of both natural and cultured pearls, seems instead of a grain of sand at the center surrounded by the excretion of a clam they were actually painted goat droppings.
Alf,Please don't leave !!!! You're the only sane one on ths blog !!
Is anybody sane on this blog?
Define sanity 9:09pm.
Would an eye witness please put on the blog what Bill Holt's behavior was at the Little League Park. I understand he went off when his grandson did not get all star. Did the other grandfather's get up and make a fool of themselves as well if their grandson didn't make the team. Just wondering. Would make for another good blog site. He resigned from Exchange Club for his behavior, did he do the same for embarrassing the school system and the county commission. He didn't get paid for being in the exchange, but does for the other. Could that be the difference? How embarrassed was his grandson and will children be afraid of him when they start to school?
OH funny, funny!!! He is the ideal of the perfect, arrogant jerk. I can't stand to even be in the same room with the man. I certainly feel sorry for his grandson. Guess if Tee Jackson had been choosing All Stars his grandson would have made the team seeing how Holt is a kiss A#$ and all to Jackson. He doesn't deserve the honor of serving as a commissioner, principal or anything.His ethics and morals are shameful. Having known him personally, I can't say enough negative about him. He is so disrespectful to others and especially some of the teachers in his school.He uses you when he wants something from you and then when he has no use for you ignores you. Sorta sounds like his mentor Jackson. He definitely does not need to be re-elected to the county commission. Time for him to go to the house!!
Time for Anger Management Classes.
They probably offeer them free of charge through the school system.
Perhaps he isn't safe around children if he can't behave at a ceremony for little league baseball players. Despicable. Time for retirement!
What was there? What happened that you observed?
Hey, if he resigned from the Exchange Club ain't it about time he resigned from the commissioners. Sound kinda bad.
He is long overdue to come off the commission. He has bad attitude and finally he showed it where people got to see other than those associated with his school and the county commission. Commissioners need to remove him.
I heard Holt got escorted off the field AFTER he cussed every official there! What does his grandson think?.....I don't think the 'apple' has fallen too far from the tree. Little ears & eyes at southside have said the grandson 'thinks' he is 'special' and can do as he pleases. Kind of like 'monkey see, monkey do'. Jacko giving Holt an assistant principal has given Holt a 'free' ticket to roam and do as he pleases. Like the improvements at PES? There is yellow mold growing on the classroom walls at southside. Time for the CRAP to stop!! A little bird said the school board will talk about 'incident' at next board meeting. If you are as disgusted as I am, join me at the board meeting and step up to the microphone to claim your 2 minutes of 'free' speech. MINE AND YOUR TAX DOLLARS PAY HOLTS' SALARY. WE CAN FIRE HIM.
What troubles me about Bill Holt and Commissioner Wilburn is the fact that these two commissioners are the ones behind making county employees pay for their own health insurance. Holt should appreciate the fact that this is one of the few benefits those employees have. I'm not sure what Wilburn thinks, but he has defecated in his own hat over this. Election time will tell. I'll certainly campaign against him for this!
Both Holt and Wilburn have a single insurance policy completely paid for by the boe!! I think it is AWFUL for the commission to suggest employees pay an extra $35 for insurance. I heard the financial manager say to the committee, with my own ears, it was her suggestion and $35 was not that much to pay. Maybe if we ALL make her salary we ALL could afford $35! Put on the pressure, call your commissioner and tell him/her to vote no or you will NOT vote for them in the next election. Remember smokers will be paying $50 more per month on their health insurance. That would equal $85 with the suggested $35 increase or $1,020 per year. Yep! I can afford that can you???
You people have got to be kidding me! Do you know how lucky you apparently ungrateful county employees are? Do you know what it is like out in the real world where the rest of us have to pay 50 to 65 percent of our health insurance and more. I am being penalized twice. I pay for my own insurance and then turn around and help pay for the county's employees insurance. Ungrateful and always standing with your hand out. Wilburn just suggested that he also pay a portion. Everyone is effected by the economy and when things like this happen you have tighten the old belt and look for ways to cut back.I am sure the beer drinking, cigarette smokers can afford to cough up an extra $35 towards their own insurance. If not maybe they need to cut out the beer and cigs. I have never seen such disgust in my life as you people complaining about having to contribute to your own health insurance. Would you rather pay what I pay each month of $600 and that is on the low end? No one chips in and pays a portion of mine. Get over it and quit complaining and learn that the taxpayers in this county are not made of money and are tired of paying for all the unjustified spending. Pay your $35, shut up and be glad it isn't more!!
No matter how you slice it and justifiably complain about the $600 per month you pay for helth insurance, the fact remains that it is those two behind this, and paid helth insurance is one of a very few benefits county employees,INCLUDING TEACHERS have.
How will they determine who is and is not a smoker? Interesting comment.
11:19 Everyone in America has the right to make choices. The right to seek training and/or education after high school. The right to apply for jobs to be employeed by the county; whether by the board of education or a county worker. Just like YOU CHOSE to apply for employment where you work. A wise person would check out the pay scale and benefits before accepting the job. A wise person would try to, peacefully, encourage employers to improve the benefits over the years. (Not lay down and let them constantly abuse their benefits by lowering them and denying pay raises.)
Now to respond to your CHILDISH comments about YOUR sorry benefits and the 'beer & cig.' people.
First of all, if your benefits are rotten; QUIT your sorry job and better yourself by seeking better benefits.
Secondly, a SINGLE policy IS NOT a family policy. ALL I know is BOE employees who have a family policy pay several hundred $$ a month for insurance. I myself have a single policy.
Thirdly, WHO IN THE H*#L MENTIONED BEER?!!..BESIDES YOU!! I do not smoke. However, last time I checked it was not illegal for ppl 18 yrs or older. I do not like to be around smokers. However, in ALL FAIRNESS (a word not known to many Giles County 'leaders') ppl were allowed to smoke when they took out the insurance policy. Now they are being punished it. UNFAIR!! What if a person had cancer when they were included in an insurance policy? What if the insurance company said, 'In January all people with cancer on the policy will have their rates go up $50'? What if the excuse the insurance company was giving was they hoped to cure cancer by charging cancer patients more?
Fourth, 'I am sure they can afford $35. Pay your $35, shut up and be glad it isn't more!!' OMG!!!! Did you vote for Obama? Kind of a dictator comment....don't you think so?? AMERICANS STILL HAVE THE RIGHT, at least now, TO COMMENT, PROTEST, AND OBJECT TO UNFAIR LAWS AND TAXES!! It is called DEMORACY! Happy Fourth of July!
TO WED. JULY 1,2009, 7:17:00 YOU MY FRIEND ARE AN IDIOT OR A TROUBLEMAKING LIAR. COMMISSIONER WILBURN AT THE LAST BUDGET MEETING SPOKE UP FOR ALL COUNTY EMPLOYEES SHOWING MRS. GARNER WHERE MONEY COULD BE SAVED IN THE BUDGET SO EMPLOYEES WOULDN'T HAVE TO GET SHAFTED WITH THIS EXPENSE. HE SEES THE WASTE AND DOESN'T SEE THE NEED FOR THE EMPLOYEES TO GET STUCK PAYING FOR THE BUGET WASTE. GARNER AND VANZANT PUT FORTH THIS PROPOSAL FOR THE EMPLOYEES TO PAY PART OF THEIR PREMIUMS
Garner shouldnt be the one to get blasted about the insurance premium. She may have spoke about it in a meeting which is her job. Bill Holt as chairman of the budget committee first raised the suggestion.
I was at the meeting - Loretta Garner FIRST spoke of the $35 increase, saying it wasn't much to pay. LG said SHE thought it was a good idea and ONE she came up with.
As I recall, the cc members there thought they could ALSO impose the same CRAP on employees of the BOE. Holt saw a BOE member there and asked her about the BOE contract with teachers. The BOE employee spoke to the language in the contract, the $50 for smokers and the FACT that teachers have NOT received ANY pay raise in THREE years. With that, Holt hit the table with his 'golden mallet' and hushed the BOE employee. This same employee spoke to R. Reedy after the meeting asking if the $35 increase would be for the entire policy or EACH member of the policy (like $35 for EACH member in a family). If my memory serves me correctly, R. Reedy said 'he thought' it would be EACH family member in a policy.....so much for a little $35 increase.
Girls, girls, girls - remember the old saying about not taking candy from strangers & don't jump in the back seat with a pervert??
Times have changed. It's a different game. It's a very high dollar scam called create a crisis that hurts people (pawns) who can cry for help loudest. It begins with free fall spending & no money left for pencils and teachers. More money flows in the holy bucket, but there's not enough for pencils & teachers, & the cycle repeats like a broken record. So, we reach a point some 5 or 6? years later where the screaming doesn't work anymore!
New more dastardly plan - no raises or pencils for three years isn't getting it, so the scammer takes money away - a negative raise - one that might leave them out in the cold dying of cancer! Plan - takes $35 a month of bread out of their mouth so the screams won't be muffled by food!
A BLS of 212.67 (Apr., 2009) / 189.1 (July, 2004) says inflation is up 12.5% over that period of time. If the 2009-10 school budget is $30,555,588 & was $22,401,759 back in 2004-5, spending increased by 36.4%! If we inflate the 2004-5 number by 12.5%, 2009-10 spending would be $25,201,978, not $30.6 million! Comparing one with the other absolutely (bad word?) says the scammers will spend $5.4 million more than the national inflated average in the single 2009-10 budget year.
And, you didn't get a raise for the past 3 years? Maybe you didn't scream loud enough. When the big boy tells you it was all mandated, demand an itemized list with dollars on it. If you get a list, you'll have a blueprint of the areas to be eliminated. When you're through, there will be more than enough to give you a fat raise, plus raises for other county workers who have been cheated by the tax $ hog, plus add a few million to restore reserves!
Can we add & subtract? The tax hog says you can't. Anger can be good, especially when you are being violated.
Point, As someone said, Mr. WAB pointed out to the budget committee that 2010 spending exceeds revenues! It's wrong & violates lots of rules & ethics, but this is the age of honey coated BS - avoids the absolutes.
There isn't going to be a tax increase, so - will the annointed one fertalize the roses, or the weeds again? When the weeds are smothering the roses, will he be back for a tax increase because he spent it all & there wasn't enough left to feed the roses?
Tisk, tisk, task. Can't leave the fan & mint julieup to weed the roses. Lots of fertalized & rich ground, just too many tall boy weeds sucking up the vitamins & moisture; & gettin all the sunlight - nothing left for the withering rose. Maybe the wild flowers will bloom.
We have a union & togetherness, representing all, including weeds & weeds have a right to flourish & survive too??? So, it's become the weeds & roses vs. the property owing gardener. Maybe it's time to plow the plot & start over - try raising rabbits?
5:06
My memory serves me correctly and I distinctly remember Bill Holt bringing the subject up about employees contributing to their health insurance coverage adding "it wouldnt make him very popular, but..." I am talking about a budget cc meeting several weeks ago, not the ones held this month.
Well Bill Holt showed his REAL colors and 'care' for the community at the ball field. All he cares about, it seems, is that HE and his 'family' get an easy ride and 'prime' positions in the community - sports, commission, board of ed. whatever. I call that CONTROL! Time for the silent majority to SPEAK UP!!
The problem with this is, as far as the blog goes, the silent majority never come here. They never will either. But I do agree with uou inasmuch as I have lost my respect for Mr. Holt.
Loretta Garner "The Finance Director" is the one who brought up about the county employees paying for the rate increase on their health insurance. This came to a amount of around $35.00 per month per employee. This does not include what their family coverage will increase too. County employees may have to take second job just to provide coverage for family, or just do without any coverage. This is awful when this is their only benefit, besides sick days. Commissioner Wendell Wilburn did not bring this subject up. He was not even at this particular budget meeting. People get on this blog and spew untruths too many times and try to confuse everyone.
Like I said, I WAS there and L. Garner said it was HER idea. Holt asked her if she thought it was the 'best' thing to do AND SHE SAID YES! Then the discussion went to school employees and trying to get them to pay $35 MORE for health insurance. (Weird the cc doesn't even know school employees have their OWN insurance!!) Holt told the cc the school employees are under another insurance plan and also a contract, as Graner did.....and so goes the 'story'. Screw the county employees and then go have some MORE fun by cussing out everyone on the ball field because you did not get what you wanted. Yep!! Real class or should I say a#@!!
My fourth wife was a schoolmarm - rode her broom to school every day. Memory like an elephant & mean as a snake. If she ran your union the big man would have a little office in the maintenance garage & be wearing a GPS bracelet, & his gophers would be selling raffle tickets to raise money for their payday. She & you'd be making more than Al Sharpton.
Unfortunately, you can't get past the $35, He knows it, & you're going to lose again! I don't like that scenario!
As I understand it, Ms. Garner simply suggested that each employee pay $35.00 extra to OFFSET the rate increase of the existing group policy. That was an alternative to the suggestion made by some on the commission that the employees begin paying for their health insurance. Amother suggestion was to put the group policy out for bids. Bad idea.
I just wanted to clear up some confusion about the situation. County employees shouldn't have to foot the bill for what has and remains their only real benefit.
Theres another large benefit that county employees receive and that is the number of holidays each year. Many more than the usual 7 of folks in general industry. I believe the county holidays amount is 13 days each year.
The insurance policy is bid out. The policy comes through the state. I don't think that the county can bid out a policy and get a better deal than the state can as a group. The insurance is as cheap as it is because it is bid with the entire state of Tennessee. Sure the county can get a cheaper policy but you won't find one that will be as good, not if you are comparing apples to apples.
9:44am Not sure how many 'holidays' the county 'gets'. But, could some of the 'holidays' be Federal holidays, meaning the county CAN'T work. If the benefits and pay is SO GREAT, why don't you apply. Why critize ppl for trying to improve their benefits or better yet JUST trying to keep what the have.
A school employee has their insurance paid by the county. If other members of their family are insured under their plan, the employee pays that.
Obama is going to add the price the county pays for employee's insurance to the employee's pay check and make them pay taxes on it as he thinks that is part of their salary.
You are so right about that sleazeball obama. Have you even considered that the Bush tax cuts we had been getting will no longer be ours to have? I don't know about you, but that $600+ check I received the past two years realy came in handy for my family. Now I suppose obama will give it to the "pool room" gang and others who won't work and who don't even get out of bed til I have been on the job several hours! That amounts to a substantial tax increase for me, And I make far less than $250,000 a year. This clown will make clinton's tax increases look small by the time he is finished with us. CHANGE is all we will have left! And supposedly intelligent people voted for him, although the majority were uninformed and misunformed. So sad that we ALL have to pay for stupidity!
I am seeing less and less of the obama/biden bumper stickers. Wonder why?
11/33 - insurance is part of compensation - part of salary, any way you want to put it, earnings from your labor!
The tax code allows employers to exclude the premium amount from taxable reported earnings.
Technically, an employer could include that premium as a deduction from wages just as if you received a prorata higher wage and paid the premium independent of your employer.
Example: What's the difference in 1. (taxable wages of $80 plus $20 paid for insurance) and 2. (100 wages with no insurance where you pay $20 for the same policy)??? (80+20=100 = same???
ans. TAXATION! - Income, employee & employer FICA, MEDICARE, Comp, unemployment, etc., etc. - on the top end of the tax bracket (from 80 to 100, not 0 to 20) HUGE $$$$$$ added to price of whatever you produce & sell or service. OBAMA POOR TAX!
If the employer pays the premium as a non wage benefit, the employee pays no tax on it, there is no employer FICA etc., & there is no employee FICA etc. - a huge tax difference on the very bottom of the wage earner pay scale! (employee/employer FICA etc = 15% plus taxable earnings at the top marginal bracket.)
What kind of low life scum would do that to bottom end wage earners (min wage, temps, clerks, & part timers who basically work for food - they GET HIT HARDEST!)
Obamalism & Demopublicans - why feed a snake?
Paid insurance provides the best value for employee and employer - also yields the least cost option for the consumer (price of goods & services), including the taxpayer.
Paid insurance in the absence of a stipulated value is a pivotal legal point. Sounds like the teachers union is sleeping under Obama's umbrella & going to wake up PG again.
10:17 I am a member of the 'teacher's union' and WE ARE NOT 'SLEEPING UNDER OBAMA'S UMBRELLA'. Remember, MANY in the union DID NOT vote for Obama. Some of us, in the union, are smart enough to keep abreast of 'current' issues and speak to them.
7:22 American's DO NOT 'have to pay for stupidity (Obama)' IF American's will SPEAK OUT peacefully. Remember, senators and congress persons WANT to stay in office. So, if American's write, call, email their senators/congress persons about their DISSATISFACTION with the path America/Obama/Czarism is taking - THINGS WILL CHANGE SOONER THAN LATER! The trouble is, American's WANT someone else to DO the calling, writing, emailing; while American FREEDOMS are FOREVER lost to socialism, communism and obamaism - as the world looks on and laughs.
I ENCOURAGE you and all other readers of this post to make a peaceful protest to SAVE the America WE know and LOVE!
1049 - I wrote 1017 as a wake up call. Without involvement, we are not going to survive. It's good to read what you say - I call it positive & refreshing. Unfortunately, it requires more than passive calling, e-mailing, and writing (all of which at times can be mightier than the sword).
Clinton and Bush paved the way for the debacle we are in. When "globalised", we will realize there is no sovereignty, no Constitution, and no private ownership, as we knew it. If one reads The Constitution & Declaration of Independence in the context of our defined language (what it IS), we will realize there is little left of either covenant. We are in the times of Babel where texting, twittering, and relativism have burned the bridges between knowledge and history, leaving us lost to the drug of choice and the feeling of the moment. History says life will be very harsh when civility and knowledge are lost, especially where the Bible is banned from education!
The Giles County education system crisis is a much smaller mirror image of the nation. It's a scam best described as contrived crisis management. It's been laid out several times in this Blog, but even teachers with enough guts to do something are still falling prey to the $35 insurance take away, when there is millions that can be taken back, right under your nose. You didn't get a raise because you are the ideal hostage in a high stakes game to rip off the public! Go back & read the numbers - they're shocking! If you want a raise, go back and unravel the Jackson web of bureaucracy. There is more than enough for raises, restoration of reserves, and a tax cut! Because some have been taught that you can't call a liar a liar, there is no discernment between fraud and a job well done! When respectability is given a thief, all will aspire to be a thief! Life must be very unpleasant for the thief, or the thief will move in with you!
The union should be in there fighting for innovation, use of media, discipline, and accountability. Instead they are following the Bush - Obama doctrine of togetherness, equality, and numbness above the neck. Our mascot should be a lemming mounted on the back of a sheep. "Sheep" is used to carry lemming to the sea in comfort, so it can leap in the sea, refreshed & with both eyes wide open.
8:30
Yours is one of the more intelligent posts I've ever read on this blog. And what you say is true. While I vehemently oppose the arrogance of those who talk down to those perceived as their intellectual inferiors, it is so refreshing to read a post such as yours.
I too agree with you that teachers, among others, are simply pawns in a larger chess game that gravely concerns me. I am a combat veteran who loves this great country where people still remain, to a large extent, free. Globalism is a cancer on mankind, and socialism, thanks to obama, will be a plague for many years to come. I pity our grandchildren.
I think the real obstacle to affecting a good and lasting change is the powerlessness most people feel, even on a local level. We see the obama tax increases coming along with more government control. We see how teachers are mistreated and taken for granted. I talk to a lot of them, and I hear it from so many that they are just trying to hang on to retirement. Isn't that a shame? There's a definite morale problem. Perhaps a raise to at least offset the $35.00 increase (fleecing) would help a little bit. What do you think?
Again, yours is a great post!
8:30 You are SO right about the teacher's union! I am a member and have been a member for several years. TOO MUCH APATHY! Not enough 'fight'. GCEA gives up before they start. Same story every year..... Anyone can do the math; no real effort = no real respect, raise or benefits. Many in the teacher's union are SICK of the it! (That's why membership is at an all time low.) We would like OUR union to stand up for ALL members and keep up the 'good fight'. Maybe it is time for new leadership......
6:33 THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO AMERICA! GOD BLESS YOU AND ALL WHO SERVE.
I would also like to echo the sentiments of 8:44 and thank 6:33 and all of our servicemen and women. Your sacrifice is appreciated. You make the would a safer place and allow all of us to enjoy so much that we take for granted. May GOD surround you with HIS grace, love, and protection always."GOD BLESS AMERICA...STAND BESIDE HER AND GUIDE HER."
George Todd
Hey George
Thanks for the kind words about vets and the sacrifices they made to our great country. Being a veteran myself, I have seen first-hand what lack of freedoms can mean. I've seen starving children running barefoot and half-naked on dirt streets. I've seen what war can do to the minds of those caught in the middle.
Yes, I'm a proud American who loves his country and Giles County. May God bless us all!
Anonymous has spoken often about being a vet and should be proud of his service but how does this chronic complainer deal with the fact that WAB also is a vet of more than 20 years service. Just wondering.
9:11
Could it be that I am very proud that I served my country? And you want to criticize me for that?
I think you misunderstand my reasoning for being here. In reality, I'm here to offer an opposing voice to the complainers. Think on that one if you dare and be brave enough to accept the truth.
I can not understand why you seem to think that no one has a right to complain about things that affect their lives. It seems to me that the only reason that you do this is because you are probably the reason for some of these things that are happening in this county.
Wrong! I have absolutely nothing to do with local government, and I have NEVER even hinted that a person has no right to question things. You miss the point I just made about offering an opposing voice.
1220 I can't picture you being more than an arm chair vet. Ever shoot anybody just for having an "opposing view"? Is it OK to take what ever you want if you have the position and power to do it?
As far back as I can recollect, WAB & the others you hate have been dealing with facts, not "opinions". He & others are not shooting people, they are simply trying to run parasites off - send them somewhere else!
If your dog has fleas, are you going to try to negotiate with the fleas & find a common ground of how much blood they can suck, or are you going to get rid of them? Only a flea has compassion for other fleas.
7:47
You know what? I could care less what you think about my veteran status. I don't owe you an explanation and certainly don't need your approval. Furthermore, whether or not I shot at anyone is NONE of your darned business! But I will tell you that I never have resorted to tactics of smearing, name-calling, attempts to discredit or humiliate, etc. anyone whose view was in opposition to mine. Can you say the same of yourself?
Wab and the others I hate? Oh please; don't you have anything new to offer besides that same old worn-out charge? I despise arrogance, self-righteousness, condescension, and egotism as bad as anyone. But just because those people exhibit some or all of those traits does NOT mean that I hate them. So please try to come up with something a little more original than that in the future.
I believe those "parasites" might better be described as people who have the power the fault-finders want so badly and can't have. Perhaps they are the ones who should go somewhere else?
8:44 Remember people welcomed Hitler with open arms and see what happened to them..... They weren't after power, just wanted to live peaceful good lives. What is wrong with standing up peacefully for what one disagrees with in the public arena? Why is it that EVERYONE who disagrees with a public figure are people who are 'fault-finders' who want 'power.....so badly and can't have'?? I would say MOST of the people who enter on this blog DON'T want power, they want change if the form of eithical fair play or REAL concern for the people of Giles County.
7:47 Also, I think it is SHAMEFUL to critize or belittle anyone who earnestly gave their time in service to the United States of America. Whether they stayed stateside or went overseas. One is not better than the other. Each person had a job. If the fulfilled their service to the USA with honor, then YOU should be grateful! Otherwise, YOU would not be able to make comments on this blog like you so 'freely' do.
8:52
I think your concept of peacefully standing up differes vastly from mine. I don't think beating people up in a public forum is peaceful, particularly when they are called names and accused of being dishonest. Do you? Would you write a congressman you disagree with and call him nasty names and accuse him of serious misdeeds? How would that promote peace? Sure, you could and should write, but not in that manner. That's always been my argument against those who do so locally.
Does the pot call the kettle black?
Oh it's do as I say not as I do.
Actually, on this blog, I think it's more like the kettle calling the pot black simply because the kettle thinks itself so much better and brighter than the pot.
And, I might add, it's not do as I say and not as I do on this blog. It's more like the kettle tells the pot that he can speak his mind freely as long as he agrees completely with the kettle.
And when the pot disagrees, the kettle calls him nasty names. Imagine that.
844 This is a blog where you can pretend be whatever suits your ego. You are not a person who would ever "fight" for your country, your neighbor, or "the children". Instead of peacefully attacking corruption within, you defend it wherever it rears its ugly head!
"Shoot at" puts you in VW van, with long mangy hair, & wierd smoke rolling out the windows. You're probably Ms. Pity Pot imagining yourself jumping out of a fox hole, waving your rifle (upsidedown in one hand & a white sheet in the other - yelling let's negotiate)! Sometimes the enemy can't shoot, because they are laughing too hard!
Everything is OK with you because you have no morals, can't discern right from wrong, & love to get close to important people who flash other people's money.
Respect is something you earn. I don't have to run for office because we have a majority of leaders who have values & have idiots like you neutered into irrelevance!
I call a liar a liar & a thief a thief. You call them "sir" or "madam". Gee, "madam" - a word of many diverse meanings
8:39
Go back and read my post again. You are exhibiting some of those despicable traits.
Please do not talk down to me about my military experience. I proudly servd my country in war. I have seen guys my age die right in front of me. I have shot at the enemy many times and then wondered why. There were several occasions when I didn't expect to survive. But I did, and people like you want to make jokes about it? HOW DARE YOU to sit back on your pompous and egotistical laurels and attack me for that! If I had it to do all over again, I would.
When people like you try to be witty and wise, I have to remind myself that your freedom to behave as you do are made possible by vets like me! I could call you a low-down and nasty name as you did me, but I have a little more class than that. I wish you did.
I suggest that you go back and read my two posts above about the pot and the kettle? Think and make proper application. It takes courage.
To July 9, 9:05 from 8:52 It is better to use words and sign than guns and supression; was my point of 'peaceful' protest. However, like in the case of Hitler, some did a little many did nothing. As for 'nasty name calling'; please tell me what 'nasty names' I used in my post or referred to in my suggestion of peaceful protest?
From 8:52 to 9:05 Also, like 8:39pm - I call 'a liar a liar & a thief a thief' no matter who the person may be. However, remember there are may ways to say 'liar' and 'thief'. Like, obama and the deomcrap congress are raping America while ensuring the enslavement of our children and grandchildren in this land we call 'The Land of the Free and Home of the Brave'! Oh, and I don't mean anything racial by that comment. No race will be spared as the obamamites 'march to the sea' of supression and control!
4:04
I believe if you will go back and read my post again you will see that I never said you called anyone a nasty name. I was speaking in general terms of those who do.
4:08 READ 9:05 You implied when you said, 'beating people up in public forum is peaceful, particularly when they are called names and accused of being dishonest' was what I was discribing as peaceful. Well, you 'read' my mind wrong. Nothing wrong with telling the truth - calling folks dishonest if they are and bullies if they are or crooks if they are. But to lie would not be peaceful. It just might insite one to anger. Just remember, the only mind you can read is yours - I think?
It's still wrong and disgraceful to behave that way. We have institutions in place to handle your "concerns". Let them do their jobs.
obviously, "they" are not doing their jobs. Obviously, you can't discern right from wrong. The school board needs to fire TJ for any one of countless disgraceful reasons.
Obviously, it's not up to you who gets fired. And obviously, you don't have all the answers. What makes you so certain that these institutions are not doing their jobs?
9:26 I am 1:15 Try going to a few board meetings or asking a few teachers about the 'antics' of the tj and some on the board. As a taxpayer who pays the salaries of tj and others I DO have a 'horse in the race' when it comes to who gets fired! Get your head out of the sand. How do I know the 'proper instutions' are not doing their jobs to make sure everyone follows the laws and rules. Do you live in a cave?! Try going to city and county govenment meeting regurally. You just might get a glimce of the 'real world'. Hope those rose colored glasses don't cause you to trip and skin your nose.
7:17
Who would you put "in charge" of things here in the county? Oh, I would guess, wab, winkles, ross, deanna, carolyn, don, and others who are smarter than the rest of us.
I don't think anyone said they were any smarter than you, but I do think that there quite a few that have better ethics than you do. Next you will say that I can not know this because I do not know who you are. Don't fool yourself!
One thing for sure, they could fire TJ & put Bullwinkle or Rocky the squirrel in charge and things would be infinitely better!!!
They could leave the position vacant and all of the divisiveness pay problems, and wondering what crooked garbage is comming next.
Run an ad! This time don't do it in the Brushy Mountain Chronicle!
Ps; can't really comment on the folks you named, but sure do know you have no common sense or moral fiber!
9:26, I can tell you that Jackson is not doing his job which means that the school board is not doing it's job by forcing their one and only employee to do his job. I have proof from a most reliable source that Jackson lied to and about more than one teacher. The source is 100% reliable. I am one of many teachers that Jackson lied to, lied about and refuses to acknowledge as a person, much less a professional. Who knows how many teachers have suffered from his indifference that are afraid to speak up? So yep I can tell you for a fact, several agencies are NOT doing their jobs!
Cowardly Teacher
11:36 I am 7:17 IT IS NOT ABOUT SMARTER, it IS about honesty and ethics! When will you learn?? I am soooooooooooo disappointed, you forgot to mention Callie. I am sure she will be hurt.
733 SSOOOOO right - Bet she'd have miss pitty pat take him for a walk out yonder - conjure up a haint or two & that boyd have a new attytwo'd & jennyrossity
12:16
No, they do not claim to be smarter, but it is strongly implied through the avenues of condescension and arrogance. And you can't see any of that, can you?
Maybe you should do what some of your kin folks advised you to do before. I think that you will find that several people on this blog know who you are! Also everyone is tire of the rhetoric that you are spouting.
My kin folks? Well, to be quite honest, a couple of my family members suggested that come to this blog because it's all just a bunch of griping, complaining, name-calling, and such by a small little goup of unhappy people. I believe that to be true, but I don't think these people should go unchallenged when they do those things. My rhetoric is only in response to theirs.
So you joined them.
Alf has returned!
I sure hope he has. Somebody has to stand up to the whiners.
I see whiners on both sides.
You say WAB whines, face it you whine about him.
I don't know WAB never heard of him until the school board wouldn't let him speak which started everything. Still don't know him, just what I read.
He may be a trouble maker I don't know, but remember there is two sides to every story and when you whine back that makes you one too.
Who specifically said he whines?
Anonymous said...
I sure hope he has. Somebody has to stand up to the whiners.
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:04:00 PM
Do you suppose that the English thought that the Colonists were just a bunch a whiners when they started complaining about taxes without representation. Youbethcha.
There are serious problems in Giles County with representation---do our representatives really represent the majority of the voters or just the ones with the most money.
Discussions of problems even if some of it is whinning is the sign of a developing government for the people and by the people.
You know that's not exactly the same situation. I am all for a government by and for the people, so don't bother to go there with me.
The things you see as problems have been abundantly pointed out by the very vocal minority. Having said that, why don't you just let the people decide what they want on election day? THAT is government by and for the people....not beating people over the head with what you perceive to be the gospel.
129 You would be a natural for Cuba, Iran, Chavaz, even the Taliban, Wait till the election, whenever that happens, whoever runs it, whoever is "in charge", etc. Doesn't matter what the steal; just wait till you can vote.
What are you going to do if someone breaks down your door & takes everything you have? Going to wait four years & vote against Mr. Helton because he wasn't there waiting for the bad guys? If you had Mr. Ruger next to your glass of prune juice, you could have stopped it at the door, then called to have the sheriff come to take pictures & call the morgue. Of course, you wouldn't shoot, complain, or call the police to "complain" about a B&E, & whupass on your dumb butt. Got to wait for the next election!!! Liberalism is a mental disorder.
10:02
If I were into name-calling (as you guys are), I would have no choice but to call you an idiot.
Yes, liberalism is a mental disorder, and I see how it is ruining this country. This obama character is going to tax and spend us into bankruptcy. We are on the same page about that.
Now, as for someone breaking into my house to plunder things I have worked for, he had better hope that I am not home. I will deal with that situation swiftly. I still have a right to own guns, and I would have no qualms about using mine. I'll not be serving milk and cookies unless that non-traditional guest (being politically correct) is Santa Claus. And he had better be wearing his red suit!
I am truly tired of hearing how much more Christian that some of us are than others. I am very young, as far as being a Christian, I was only baptized 3 years ago. However, those of you that complain that Mr. Barrett is being un-Christian, and then bash everyone else over the head with your Christianity, doesn't that make you just a little ludicrous? I do not know if Mr. Barrett is a preacher or not, but he does have the right to voice his opinion, as does everyone else. I have not read anything that shows that he "thinks he is smarter than everyone, or that he is calling anyone ignorant. If you disagree with him, tell him why he is wrong and back it up with facts. I really enjoy reading the intellectual posts here, however I wish that people would actually talk to each other, and not at each other or about each other.
Well, look who started all this mess to begin with.
757 You say you are ready to handle business, defend your home & property, country too if necessary. You talk like you'd not hesitate to play a little whoopass to hold a crook until the law arrives. Admirable but inconsistent.
A person who can snap a cap on a thief who makes a wrong move, would never hesitate to call a liar a liar or a thief a thief!
A lying crook who steals a $10 wallet will get prosectured, beaten if he runs, and shot if he threatens! You'll call him a thief!
A lying government crook tells you a lie, takes a few million to waste, screws workers out of their wages to toss more money, and tells you more lies to convince you that you're really dukmb enough to buy crook's story. Nobody will prosecute because they think he is important, so what do you do? You agree that crook is important, send children to crook to learn how to be successful, and ridicule anyone else who calls crook corrupt!
And, there is that magic word again. Like Groucho Marx in the good old days, a dead chicken will drop out of the sky & we'll get another surprise message from dumbo!
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;45
Look, I think my post was clear enough that even you could understand it. I meant exactly what I said. So you needn't speculate or try to be cute here to impress your friends. It just makes you look stupid. But understand that I didn't call you stupid. I'll leave the name-calling to you guys.
By the way, I already have defended my country. I've never been put in a situation where I would have to defend my home and property, but be assured that I would do just that.
As for the "crook", turn your evidence over to the proper authorities and then butt the heck out. Nobody appointed you the sheriff of this here Ponderosa anyhow. If the crook is guilty of crookery, then the authorities can and will take care of it. Oh, but I suppose you think they are just as "corrupt", right?
7/17/09 3:54- Am I reading correctly? Did you just say, "They started it?" Finally, a voice of reason and maturity! (NOT)
11:51- I understand your indignation at whoever you are talking to as they are not the sheriff or "proper authority." Not like you, who is the self-appointed CZAR of the blog, huh?
All you disgruntled citizens, back off now so the CZAR looks like he's being effective!
Going to watch cartoons now, much more mature subject matter than these two apparent, ostrich-like citizens. (Please note the very specific wording of that last statement; there is a reason for it!)
Deanna
But the sheriff is an eleted offical. He must be a crook also. (According to this blog)
deanna...
Calm down; you're going to rupture a blood vessel. CZAR? What a laugh you are.
And you want to call me ostrich-like because I don't agree with you. Silly.
Yeah, I suppose the sheriff and all his deputies are crooks and should be thrown out of office. That is, according to those who know best.
I never once mentioned the real sheriff of Giles County on this blog.Never even hinted at, alluded to or suggested a single thing about our sheriff. Surely you last posts realize that???
Deanna
This 11:51 anonymous is the same poster over and over on different threads spewing the same old mantra. They say that there is a vocal minority causing things to be amiss. I can't help but find the humor in that due to this anonymous is the only one disagreeing with the rest of us logical thinkers. And I thought I had to tune in to comedy central for good humor. Buddy your swiftly becoming the laughing stock of this blog. Hardy, har, har, har.....!
How do you spew a mantra? The rest of us logical thinkers? HARDY HAR HAR! Such arrogance.
You are, ironically enough, right about a vocal minority. I and a few others are a very definite minority who come on this blog to challenge the collective attitude of a very vocal minority here in the county who in addition to being smarter and more logical thinkers, want to be in charge but can't.
Where are the rest of your cronies you speak of sharing your point of view? All anyone sees is your point of view again and again. Yes, you are very easily identified. Reason being your say the same thing time and time again. Only your feelings and nothing substantive. You want to be taken seriously? Suggestion...get serious and say something worthwhile and offer proof of the many that feel as you do. You must just sit in a corner in your house on a daily basis unwilling to come out and see the light because if you stepped out once in a while you would see your the lone player in this game of denial you have become the master at playing.
Those who share my view are those that will never come on this blog and try to defend themselves from your name-calling and accusations. Again, a few like me will come here and challenge such behavior. Makes you mad, doesn't it?
Hmmmm...you expect me to believe you?? Again, you offer no proof and are steadfastily becoming a bore and nuisance. All that has been asked of you other than being a bit openminded is offer proof of others that share your ideals. Funny, today I was in Home Depot and a group of people were standing around talking about our mayor and director of schools. I personally did not know these people but the disgust and disdain for the way these two individuals have screwed our city and county was being spoken loud and clear.No mistake they don't feel like you do. These were older people and they are most resistant to change.
Their point of view was hammer down on them and make them accountable. Again, individuals I did not know openly discussing their unhappiness with how our county is quickly going to pot. But, I guess you would not have liked those people either because they expressed their feelings and used some choice words in doing so. Go ahead, go stick your head back in the sand. You and your like-minded friends are swiftly becoming the minority. Question: Will you be at the Power Board Meeting Thursday?
403 There's a reason your buddies don't come on this blog. Crooks don't openly divulge plans or openly brag about the people they screwed. Watch the meetings &see how the few bad ones operate. For a select few it begind with admitting they have a conflict of interest, followed by intent & vote to use that conflict of interest to taxpayer disadvantage! Somebody needs to train a parrot & bring it to the meetings
I could care less what you believe.
To the other of your buddies,
No, the reason they don't come here is because, as has been said, they will not get down to your level. They actually do have a lot more class than you ever thought about.
Oh but you will stoop to our level? HaHa..do you realize what you just said? Oh and by the way, what level is that you stoop to in order to have dialogue with us?
10:08
Please allow me to explain myself again. No, they won't stoop to your low level of nasty name-calling and accusations, but I WILL come here and take you to task for it. By the way, I'm not one of your victims.
It's really a simple concept. There are a few of us who will challenge your behavior. And you were not nearly as witty as you thought you were. You just didn't understand. Glad I could enlighten you.
10:08
Who is the "us" you refer to? Do you realize what you just said? Hardy har har! Who is us?
4:03- An anonymous challenge is not much of a challenge.
George Todd
SORRY, MEANT 4:03
GEORGE
George,
No, I stand by what I said. Some of us do not have the luxury of posting our names on this blog for a variety of reasons. I promise you that I will be here, the Lord willing, to point out the nastiness of what goes on with the name-calling and such. I'm sorry you don't like that.
932 - someone lies, and you say they have the "class" to not get down to the level of a person who doesn't lie?
someone lies and taakes money intended for someone else, and you say they have the "class" to not get down to the level of a person who doesn't lie?
You are in a well defined class of people - most of which are either in or have been in jail!
Those people 9:32 speaks of are only a figment of their imagination. If they existed then proof would have been offered by now.
6:39
No, what I SAID is that these people you so gladly crucify (no reference to Christ) have too much class to get down to your level of name-calling and accusation. I know what I'm talking about. You can call them thieves, liars, and "corrupt" all day long, and they are not going to come here.
To 9:18
I disagree with you. If the naysayers gang (very vocal minority) had proof of thievery and wrongdoing, don't you know they would have gladly turned it over to the police? They wouldn't miss an opportunity like that, and you know it!
Tuesday, July 21, 2009 5:35:00 PM
I can understand you if they are talking about you, your spouse or sibling.
Prove WAB wrong, don't just pop off.
I don't know Mr. Jackson just what I've heard others say and on this blog.
The main thing I think of is his getting to keep his job so long. I don't blame him for wanting his job secure for awhile. I blame the men than agreed with it.
Obama may want to keep his job and pass a law where he can run two or more times. It will be Congress and the Senators fault if they allow it.
7:31 You disagree with me? Why am I not surprised?! Do I care? Uh, no! It is the duty of any citizen who witnesses wrongdoing or have knowledge of it to report it. You say that with a condescending tone. What are we to make of that? Let me ask you a question. Would you be willing to divulge information if you knew of intentional wrongdoing towards our citizens if you had it and if it jeopardized your friendship with that party? Or, would you think only of yourself and that relationship and turn a blind eye? I am guessing that you will be noble and say that you would come forward. That is what you want us to all think. But, I don't sense that from you. You seem like the type of person who would let it continue for fear of the repercussions against you. Again, I am just making an observation. It just seems like no matter what proof anyone offers or what issues are discussed you have nothing but disdain for those who are willing to speak up. It just makes one wonder why you are such a staunch defender automatically. You don't know all things that go on in this county and many of the posts on this blog are several individuals with personal experiences. Are we to assume you are privy to everyone's personal experience? We know you can't be all places, all the time. So, why are you so willing to level criticisms so quickly towards others? It reveals a good deal about you as a person and nothing I would particularly brag about.
to 10:25 don't you know bozo can read minds he know WAB so good that they even know why he does everything he does.
He is all-knowing and a legend in his own mind!
I have said this before and I will say it again! This is a woman that spouts off all the time. Just think about who would hate Mr. Barrett so much? Think about the person that he has stepped on her toes so many times!
Well, if she didn't tell so many fibs and did her job effectively then her toes would not be stepped on. Her popularity has gone done in recent years. I just hope she does not win next election. She talks out of both sides of that mouth and does not have the overall interest of the county and it's people at heart. There are a lot of people in the community that have supported her in the past that will not support her in any future election. Let's just pray that we get a good candidate next year to run against her.
To Wednesday, 7/22/09 - 7:31 "Don't have the luxury of posting our names on this blog."? How is it a luxury to be proud of what you say and what you believe in? How is it a luxury to take credit for your words, and responsibility for your actions? I know what you are going to say, I am being just as anonymous by using the name I use on the blog. However, the ones who know me will easily figure out that it is I behind that name, and they can release the name or not. That is their prerogative. I am not "hiding behind a name, I am laying it out there as a clue to be discovered. I am using my "nom de plume" if you will. But enough waxing poetic. You act as if your name will cause you grief if it is seen on this blog. Are you worried that you will be treated as badly as you have treated Mr. Barrett and everyone else on this blog who disagrees with you? You say that you have the right to free speech, but you are not willing to recognize that right in others. You hide behind the First Ammendment and the Bible and then use them as a shield or a club whichever suits your fancy at the time. You are so arrogant in what you say, yet you accuse others of the crime for which also are guilty of. Don't forget, when I introduced myself, I warned you that I was both arrogant and egotistical, therefore we are brothers in crime so to speak. Back to my rant. Your words are so venomous and yet so banal that there repitition is beginning to bore even the most devout reader of this blog. So bottom line, you can put up, or shut up. Identify yourself in some fashion or just sit on the sidelines and let some fresh ideas blow thru this blog and maybe shake up the powers that be.
Great post 2:58!
2:58
Some people who post here are trying to support ideas that their employers would find very offensive and could result in negative results in their employment status if their identy was known.
Do you understand the term "undeserved retribution for acts of treason" which is what happens when some empolyers find out you have given aid and comfort to their enemies.
Without some inside information most of these blogs would have very little to discuss. If the cloak of anonymity could not be used then you might have a lot less to discuss, and some of us would be in the unemployment line.
So yes it is a luxury to be able to post under your own name for some people.
7/24/09 8:12AM However, what you have to say, has nothing to do with what any of the blogs are talking about. Therefore your anomymity is not needed and using your name is not a luxury. Also you give so little information about anything, what priceless gem do you have that could so cause you "undeserved retribution for acts of treason". Sorry, histrionics are no excuse. Please, pull the other leg next time.
10:56
I was just making a comment as to why others as well as myself have chosen to remain anonymous in the past. I and others that I know have made comments and given information that would set up retribution if our employers knew who was giving out that information. Some of our employers do not even want us to read the blog---let alone comments---since they are the subject of some of the blogs and memtioned in others.
No histrionics to it just feared retribution---since some of us have been warned (not individually but in a group, because so far those in authority over us have not managed to find out who is guilty)
Enjoy your freedom to use your name on your posts if you can.
By the way Real Deadman I don't see you using your John Q Public on here. Why not???
12:19 I am using my "John Q. Public" you just haven't figured it out yet. As for those who are threatening your free speech, that is a violation of your 1st amendment rights, and thats pretty much what this blog is about. I love the give and take the verbal parries and slashes. It is just the way I roll. I hope you are able to resolve that situation so that you can have a little more freedom of identity.
To 8:12 you state, "Some of our employers do not even want us to read the blog---let alone comments---since they are the subject of some of the blogs and memtioned in others. No histrionics to it just feared retribution---since some of us have been warned (not individually but in a group, because so far those in authority over us have not managed to find out who is guilty)"
It would be mighty interesting to know who specifically would be so low minded as to made these kind of threats. Since they were made in a group setting they could be identified anonymously without the revelation of the posters name.
Allen Barrett
I agree Allen. It is appalling to think that a department head in this county would think they can dictate what employees can and cannot do in their personal time. I am not surprised at all though. It is the strong arm tactics just like this that has caused fear and intimidation leveled at employees for years. Just like a person that keeps posting on this blog who doesn't agree with those of us who have less than positive opinions regarding some of our county officials. This person would love to have control over all our thoughts and opinions just because they differ from their own. Sad, sad.
Hey, the director and school board 'think' they can control the lives of their employees on and off the job. What a joke! Obama hasn't taken over yet and we are still governed by the U.S. Constitution. The problem is too many people whimp out and 'let' others control them. If ppl won't stand up for their rights, they deserve to be a floor mat.
soothsayer says:::::::
floor mats remain floor mats until they are worn out & cast aside.
one thing about "it" - if you accept it, wallow in it, & don't make it change & you are part of it.
what's worse - not forcing an honest environment or sitting back & whining in fear of what you know is comming?
you want a raise because inflation has stolen your purchasing power. you see a bootlicker get a big raise & promotion into a high paying job a chimpanze could do... you know what's required for financial suck-cess, but conscience keeps you off your knees. yes, it takes more than one - until one stands, none stand.
Satire works. If you see a donkey, the picture is a donkey. Laughter is power & laughter is happiness - tears are tears & fear is fear.
get your facts together (FACTS!). sift the sand from the pile & use the very few big rocks that remain...........
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