Giles Free Speech Zone

The purpose of the "Giles Free Speech Zone" is to identify problems of concern to the people of Giles County, to discuss them in a gentlemanly and civil manner, while referring to the facts and giving evidence to back up whatever claims are made, making logical arguments that avoid any use of fallacy, and, hopefully, to come together in agreement, and find a positive solution to the problem at hand. Help make a difference! Email "mcpeters@usit.net" to suggest topics or make private comments.

Wednesday, April 29, 2009

Industrial Recruiter Or One Man's Gold Mine????

What does an Industrial Recruiter do to earn a salary and benefits of $100,000.00 a year and what are the qualifications possessed by the current recruiter and how long has he actually held these qualifications?
Some things they have not done is bring an abundance of industry into Giles County and give timely reports of activities to the County Commission who pays much of the salary.
The question arises as to the appropriateness and justification of having an industrial recruiter at such a high salary when there is such a downturn in business expansion and new business start-ups. Is it appropriate to have people appointed by the mayor or at his suggestion to paid positions on boards then have those same people appoint him to be the industrial recruiter and set his salary and benefits so high? Is this an example of the notorious good ole boy network operating at high speeds? Is it appropriate to have an appointee accountable to only those he himself has appointed?
If there is something rotten in Denmark as the saying goes, what is that smell coming out of city hall? Allen Barrett

69 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Barrett can you name all the members of the economic development board so we can see what the connections are. Also how much money comes from city and county and is there income from other sources.

Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FINALLY we are gonna start talking about this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bout time.

Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to Apr 30th 11-21..

We're all waiting for your expose`

Friday, May 01, 2009 7:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amazing -
$$$,$$$ down the drain

Friday, May 01, 2009 8:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have no fear
for the spear
will be here
for you to cheer

Saturday, May 02, 2009 9:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Speer has served his time. Its time for a change in the industrial recruiting position and mayor. Little to nothing has been accomplished recently. It is time for new ideas, new leadership, and for the persons and positions working with him to be treated with respect. His arrogance is killing this city.

Sunday, May 03, 2009 9:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who do you propose would be a good candidate?

Sunday, May 03, 2009 2:48:00 PM  
Anonymous wab said...

In response to an earlier request here is the people on the Industrial Development Board.

Mark Hayes, Meade Hopkins, Ronnie Brindley, Marcus Houston, Hardin Franklin, Robert Bee, Wes Kelley, Brenda Burch.
Staff is Daniel Speer.

Allen Barrett

Sunday, May 03, 2009 5:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Economic Development Board is different from the Industrial Development Board. This list of the Economic Development Board goes like this: Hascal Mayes, Chairman; Terry Harrison, City Manager, Ron Holcomb, Electric System Manager, Charles Jenkins, Alderman; Bill Holt, Commissioner; Stoney Jackson, Commissioner; Janet Vanzant, County Executive; Paul Allen, Greenbelt Property Owner; Mark Hayes, FNB;Hershal Lake, David Rackley, Patrick Gilbert. Jimmy Greene, Chamber of Commerce. Dan Speer is the Executive Director along with being the Secretary and Treasurer.

Sunday, May 03, 2009 8:39:00 PM  
Anonymous wab said...

To the 3 May 8:39 poster.
You are correct and I appreciate your posting the members of the Economic Development Board. I apologize for not making the issue more clear and should have posted both the Industrial and the Economic Development Board's members.
Allen Barrett

Monday, May 04, 2009 9:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This was clearly wrong from the start to have a mayor serve as Industrial Recruiter with dual salaries and responsibilities. Either being a mayor is going to be short changed or a recruiter or both. In this case it is both. It is politics at its worst. This may not be the best of times but it need not be the worst of times. For some it is the best possible way to make a living off those who have no money to fight back. Either you have folks unwilling to get involved to speak up or fearing repercussion from the backlash of stating the obvious. So many who benefit from being in the inner sanctum of the town and political machine have sold out for a cushy place for their families. No jobs closes the gap on voters who are not related to or employed by the offenders. Tightens down the power to the few and getting fewer. What a legacy to leave! You took a town and progressed it into the ground.

Monday, May 04, 2009 12:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let us look at the TCA and determine if Dan can be the Director, Secretary and Treasurer at the same time? Since this is a "legitimate" board, i am willing to bet thet those positions have to be separated; at least for the dispursement of funds.

Monday, May 04, 2009 5:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does the "Charter" form of government have any jurisdiction over this "BOARD"?

Would like to know. Thanks!

Monday, May 04, 2009 5:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All you people do is bitch. Does anyone have a solution?

Tuesday, May 05, 2009 9:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't see any bitching here. Just concerned persons trying to get to the bottom of a situation that is wrong. Even YOU (9:04)should agree with that.

Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I do agree. There is no doubt that people are concerned. However, I realize that concern absent any constructive talk about a solution, is nothing more than bitching. It is easy for the readers and posters of this blog to be arm-chair quarterbacks. However, it is not constructive. Lets talk about solutions.

Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9:04 has a point. If everyone would suggest a “fix” for the concerns raised instead of repetitive posting of the same old gripes plus personally attacking the person; food for thought would trigger other readers to analyze the idea and expand on the concept presented. Even though elected officials and appointed board members may not apply the idea, subconsciously they would have the thought of improvement in the back of their mind when looking in the mirror.
In progression to my personal ideas for improving this particular situation, I offer the following for thought. As a rule, officials are elected and board members are appointed to act responsible in regards to providing the best possible solutions that benefit the taxpayer. The absolute crack in the foundation of our federal, state, and local governments lies in the “full time job status” our politicians have created for themselves for personal gain. Our founding fathers knew smaller government with elected officials serving the people on a part time basis was the only answer to stop the greed for personal gain. The second crack in the system lies solely with Joe Taxpayer. Joe will not ask questions. Joe will not vote. Joe does not care unless the issue effects Joe on a personal basis. Elected officials maintain that Joe Taxpayer is uneducated on the issues and they and they alone will decide on the issues effecting Joe because Joe does not know. Unfortunately the politicians are right. Until Joe Taxpayer takes a stand, holds them accountable by not voting the same ones in over and over, and actually questions the system for themselves, status quo. No change. We created this mess by varying from our founders ideas and values.
Solution for the problem of topic. Simple as it gets. Smaller government. State has an office of economic development. NO company will enter into the state unless they know. All companies desiring to locate in Tennessee may contact the office of the state economic development. Submit required data on education, workforce availability, land and transportation issues, infrastructure, training issues, etc. State office evaluates all counties to determine the top five locations that will benefit both the company and the state. Company visits all five locations and makes a choice. No county needs an economic development coordinator in this day and time due to instant access of information. ie; internet $100,000.00 plus Costs of OFFICE and Personnel eliminated.
Simple math. Take the number of dollars spent in the last five years on staff and marketing in the area of economic development. TOTAL COST. Divide the results in jobs created SOLELY by the local economic development office. Justify the expenditure.
As Joe Taxpayer, I have no idea as to the job performance rating of Mr. Spear. Could be money well spent. Could be money wasted. I do expect my county commissioners to know the figures before they approve monies to fund the office. Accountability. Show me the figures.

Wednesday, May 06, 2009 12:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Legislative Committee of the County has ask for reports, but to date has received no report of any of the financial expenses or revenues. Can the county officials make him (Speer) report?
When they ask nicely, they don't get anywhere.

Wednesday, May 06, 2009 7:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Simple solution - cut off the funding! Zero results = zero pay!

Wednesday, May 06, 2009 8:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why doesn't the Industrial Recruiter's salary depend on how many jobs are brought here? My husband has been out of work a year and there are no signs of a job around here. Mr. I.R. Speer doesn't want any new industry in this county. One company that was thinking of opening a location here would have brought jobs with a starting pay of approx. $15 an hour. It was told that Mr. I.R. Speer told them that Pulaski didn't need jobs like that here. We were "simple folk" and they could get by paying us alot less than that. Man oh man what a fella is looking out for us.

Monday, May 11, 2009 6:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look at the economic dev website. Unless it has been changed it advertises Low Cost Labor.

Monday, May 11, 2009 8:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Giles County is one of the most beautiful areas in the country. The workforce in the surrounding area is exceptional. Common sense ability outweighs any "educational" issues anyone can ague with. Think about it, would you rather have a PHD who can't change a tire or someone who knows how to make it go round & round over hill & valley rain or shine?

The spear is broken, riding around town like a big fish in a little pond, flopping around to muddy the water, eating everything in sight, & blowing bubbles so everyone will know he's thare.

Monday, May 11, 2009 12:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In this day of economic depression why is it that "officials" are allowed to use taxpayer funds for their personal use? Why is it that we allow Dan Speer to drive a Government vehicle 24/7 for official business as well as personal use? Should not we attend a Board meeting and ask?

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 6:54:00 AM  
Anonymous wab said...

The only way to remedy this situation, short of the citizens storming city hall with pitchforks and torches, is to clean house in the next election. Allen Barrett

Thursday, May 14, 2009 9:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Barrett surely you do know that your county mayor and 21 commissioners also have input on the recruiter, as you call him. Why not use those same pitchforks and torches and march on the courthouse. They meet next week don't they. Why not stand up and ask them to name one thing that the recruiter has accomplished. Why not ask them to stop their funding of that position. Seems that would effectively put an end to things. Shouldn't that house be cleaned too? I've asked my commissioners to gather some facts and figures on the recruiter office. Have you?

Friday, May 15, 2009 8:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wab..
Ouch! I've not been on this so-called blog of yours in some time now, but I see it hasn't changed a bit. And I find it refreshing that there are others besides me who have stepped up to give you the spankings you so often need and deserve. It's a shame that you never seem to profit from them. Too much pride and arrogance, perhaps? Pray for wisdom; God knows you need some.

Saturday, May 16, 2009 1:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

151 S&M is back - time for the handcuffs, chains & old four poster iron bed Maybe your mentor will forget to release you & you won't be able to do your thing.

Saturday, May 16, 2009 10:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Friday 8:58. wher you been WAB has asked those questions several times and so have some of the commissioners, I was there.
Spear is suppose to address the commission next meeting but he was suppose to give written actions taken and specifics of how money has been spent week ago. The problem ain't WAB and it aint't all the commissioners it's Spear and those who keep protecting him for their own benefit.

Saturday, May 16, 2009 11:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

S&M is back? No, just another opposing voice to what you guys are doing on here. But, isn't that the heart of debate?

Sunday, May 17, 2009 8:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Time to shear the spear!

Sunday, May 17, 2009 12:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey 1:51 way to stay on topic and not make it about wab!, NOT-comment on issues,not private citizens; you do the same as wab but big diff. he signs he name, you are a coward

Sunday, May 17, 2009 3:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3:01
I was simply pointing out that there are others besides myself who are not so totally enthralled with your hero. I haven't been on this "fre speech" blog in several weeks. I was merely pointing out that I was not the one taking issue with wab. I find it both refreshing and, as I've said before, humorous. And then you have to go and whine about a simple observation. I may stick around awhile and enjoy the show.

Sunday, May 17, 2009 7:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3:01
Uh......pardon me, but I noticed that you didn't sign your name either. What a joke!
No, there's a vast difference between me and wab. I don't call people names and run around town trying to stir up trouble. Having said that, I would think whether or not I sign my name is foolish in light of those glaring differences. Think.

Sunday, May 17, 2009 7:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nope, don't sign my name, I don't criticize those who do though, I whole heartedly agree that there is a vast difference between you and wab, never having met either of you, I would say I would be less afraid of him, he is not trying to be sneaky and sinister, he says what he believes to be true about issues and public figures who spend my tax dollars, you are just a gossip who is too lazy to gather your own info or too indifferent to work toward bettering your community. From one coward to another, do you know anything about the issues, or does all of your energy go into critizing those who at least try and inform the public? You hate Wab's postings? Simple solution, as he signs his name-DON'T READ THEM.None of us that want to know what's going on, don't have that luxury with your posts, do we? Like I said, you would watch a building burn to the ground if you thought wab called 911.

Sunday, May 17, 2009 9:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Excellent post 9:52! Wish people would listen to you. You nailed it.No matter how many facts you lay at the feet of the people some people just refuse to acknowledge the truth.I honestly do not know how WAB continues to combat all the negative statements he receives.Although I do not agree with everything he says, I commend him for standing up for his beliefs and doing his utmost to inform citizens.You are so right when you say people are too lazy to gather their own facts. They get their info second hand and then rant and rave regarding issues they don't even know anything about. Hope you continue to stick around and let your voice be heard.We need more citizens to have a voice and not back down from intimidation because they have an opinion. Kudos to you!

Sunday, May 17, 2009 10:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9:52
So are you saying I am sneaky and sinister because I call wab to task. He may speak what he believes to be true, but that's really not the point, is it? I think you and I have had this conversation before. No, I don't hate his posts or even wab as a person. You judge me harshly and don't even know me. What I know about issues is my own business. Again, it's pointless to rehash this with you.

Sunday, May 17, 2009 10:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You seem to think that no one knows who you are, but I think that you would be surprised how many people have figured out just who you are. I also think that you are sneaky, sinister, and underhanded. Believe me, you are fooling no one!

Monday, May 18, 2009 9:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sneaky, sinister and underhanded are all perfect descriptions of 10:22. Another word I have read on this blog that fits him is buffoon.
The guy is living in a fantasy world with an over inflated opinion of himself.

Monday, May 18, 2009 11:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11:50
So now you are using a name your hero used to call those who disagreed with him. However, he spiced it up somewhat and called them ANAL bufoons. He stopped that when people like me took issue with his name-calling. By the way, the person you are perfectly describing in your last sentence is none other than your hero. WHAT AN IRONY! Do you see the irony with a tad of hypocrisy in that?

Monday, May 18, 2009 4:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

4:18 is not a guy. That is what she would like for you to believe. Only a woman would talk about spanking a man and taking him to task. Think about it! It is not hard to figure out who this is.

Monday, May 18, 2009 10:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank-you, 10:22 for your kinds words, they are appreciated. I guess being an "outsider", I just don't understand this poster who is obsessed with Mr Barrett and I am aware that he is not alone. The topic of school ins is so important and yet this person clearly wants to cloud the issue and prevent folks from getting info and attacking a private citizen who does care enough to attend mtgs and identify himself. You know, he/she writes gramatically correct sentences, apparently has somewhat of an education, probably reasonably intelligent; so why is this person so dead set on squawking about wab regardless of what Mr Barrett shares on this blog? It is his/her only concern in the community if the blog is an accurate indicator and since we know he/she is reading this, yes I do find it sinister and more than a little bizarre, borderline obsessive. I do as I have freely admitted that I lack the integrity and courage to sign my name, but I will never criticize someone who speaks out on an issue. I have no problem agreeing to disagree; so many people don't understand that concept and that's unfortunate. However my lack of integrity by staying anonymous stops at the point of attacking a person's character because he took the time to report on a mtg. Citizens need to remember that Mr Barrett is a private citizen who willingly shares his perspective on community affairs. It's called free speech; Isn't ironic that the poster will use this right to attack wab's character, not the msg and then claim those who don't agree with posters such as 10:22 are hypocrites; then make childish silly statements about wab being our "hero". Don't know about you, but I've never met the man, and frankly I resent his assumption that someone can become my hero by being a responsible citizen, which is all I know about WAB. It takes more than that to become a hero in my eyes; My standards are high. The only thing I ever claimed was that I respected his integrity and courage to publicly post his views.
I appreciate that for many reasons.
I apologize to all readers as I have done what I complain others do and go off topic. My only defense(excuse) is that I wanted to thank a poster for kind words on this thread. I do hope that 10:22 will realize that issues are what's important and there is a vast diff between public and private citizens, agreeing to disagree is fine, and most of all, just because one doesn't like the facts, they are facts none the less.
Foreigner.

Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It amazes me that everyone does not see that the indians fan the smoke screen. That way we get off subject and don't talk about the chief. Keep getting sidetracked. He'll keep smiling all the way to the bank. Your tax dollars in his pocket. They will keep putting up the smoke screen. You will keep wondering exactly what we are paying for. Any new jobs. More folks on unemployment.

Tuesday, May 19, 2009 8:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

4:18 if you could get your mind out of the gutter, DOUBTFUL, you might come to understand as has been stated by WAB when he referred to you as an "anal buffoon" there is nothing dirty about the term it simply meant your were a "controlling clown". Learn some word meanings and maybe you won't sound so dumb and might even someday make a point.

Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:15
Wrong again. I'm all man, rest assured of that. I suppose that alone shows how "smart" you really are.

Tuesday, May 19, 2009 5:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:32
Thank you for your kind remarks as well. Your mentioning attacks on a private citizen is exactly what I have been trying to say. Why is OK for wab to be given a free pass when he attacks people and then he is defended to the hilt when someone like me calls him to task for it? Doesn't that seem a bit hypocritical of those who are apologists for him? THAT is the problem I have with him. And I am continually amazed at how many defend his behavior. Please help me to understand that.
YES, I am concerned about issues and goings-on in this county, but I do NOT resort to the mean-spirited tactices some wantonly use to make their points. I would call them childish were they not so low-down mean. Wouldn't you?

Tuesday, May 19, 2009 5:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Ruby said...

5:42 if you are concerned as you claim then by what means do you show that concern? I have read much on here about your claims of concern and how you oppose wrong but have yet to read any specifics. I think that is the difference between you and WAB he gives information and signs his name while you make claims based on how you feel and hide under the anonymous rock. Share some specifics about what you have done to improve this county.

Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

5:42, I do not recall any kind words that I gave to you.
No, I wouldn't call them childish.
I have never heard WAB say anything about a private citizen.
I guess I made a wrong assumption in my last post regarding some people possessing a "reasonable" amt of intelligence. The BILL OF RIGHTS give us the right to express our views on Government officials, be they positive or negative. That is the only group of people that I have heard wab discuss;You obviously do not understand that wab is a ciizen who is NOT an elected official and has NO opportunity to spend my tax dollars. He has opinions,insights, and ideas. I enjoy reading his msgs even though I disagree with him frequently. I also agree with him frequently. He's not my "hero". You, as you say, "take him to task" by name which I find incredibly arrogant of you, especially since you are anonymous. I was always taught to ignore those type of msgs. I hope you will please study the difference between public v. private citizen; maybe you will begin to understand. If the public figures are offended by wab's msgs, I believe they don't need you to speak for them, let them do it themselves. If they do need you to speak for them, then they have only two ETHICAL choices: resign if they can't speak or hire you for p.r. and ORDER you to identify yourself.
This is my final post off topic-if you don't get it yet, you either don't want to or need more help than I am able to grant. REMEMBER-elected not private-clear enough yet?

Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok. I'll start the on topic talk. Yearly salary ___________ (I hear around $seventy thousand???). New vehicle - white (Ford? maybe)cost ________________ (who owns city or county) add gasoline ___________ and insurance____________ and maintenance _______________. Health insurance? ________________ Retirement? _________________ How many plans? City? County? Electric System? _________________
Expense account? _______________
Anybody know the answers? That would get us started.

Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good start 1:27. Also support staff. How much????_____________.
Advertising? _________________.
Our elected officials SHOULD know what the total dollar amount is. Just start asking them "how much is spent yearly?"

Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 11:35
Look, I understand the difference between public and private, so don't do the condescension thing with me. And I fully understand that Mrs. Vanzant, Mr. Reedy, Mr. Jackson and other "corrupt" people you guys just love to hate are both public and private citiens. Just because you think you and a small group of people here in Giles County are the ONLY ones with a brain doesn't give you that right.
Since you are so smart, why aren't you in public office? Let me guess. You can't get elected. Is that it? It seems there are several of you in the same boat. To that, I must say thank God!

Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Foreigner said...

To 4:27: Here's how it works; , I too also that that the salary was around 70 k but I don't have any first hand info on the other benefits; My guess it is or should be public record and I guess a non-partisan newspaper would probably print such information. I also am mulling a radical idea and wonder if any would agree that would clear up some suspicions; Our state legislators often hold "town hall" mtgs and openly answer questions. Wonder if Mr Spear and others holding public authority jobs would be willing to do likewise.
See, 4:27, right on target. By the way,(I apologize in advance for going back on my word to those with a genuine interest in issues of the county)Not a word on the topic, sir or ma'am; why are we not surprised; just you attempting to justify your attack on a private citizen who has no authority and only uses this blog as intended= to speak personal ideas on public issues; Am I condescending regarding your understanding of public and private citizens?; gee, can't imagine where I got that idea, especially after your brilliant statement that they are both public and private citizens (oxymoron); That clears so much up for me regarding your ability to process vocabulary.
And now please get someone to help you understand my next statement completely. I know nothing about Mrs Vanzant other than what I've read here; I know plenty, first hand about Mr Jackson, no rumors only facts and as far as Mr Reedy goes, he is without a shadow of a doubt one of the most ethical, honest, intelligent, compassionate, and caring man I have ever watched at commission mtgs. He has the ability to see past tomorrow and he also realizes that the world doesn't stop at the county lines and that Giles County is NOT allowed to create their own little world with no outside interference.I may not always agree with him either, but I know that his selfLESSness is evident, so once again you have spotlighted your ignorance on this so-called "hater" as well as your inability to comment on issues. Wonder what folks infer from that? Think about it, not ONE single word on issues, only thing you post is your defense for attacking someone who does post on issues; the ironic thing is, he signs his name, you're not brave or strong enough to do the same therefore you have zero credibility. No, I'm not signing my name either, never claimed to have that kind of courage, but wish I did.
Foreigner

Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:26
Of course, you know plenty. That's because you are smarter than the rest of us and really ought to have one of those "public authority jobs" you mentioned in your post. Isn't that what's really at the heart of a small group of people's anger and frustration? They want to be the ones in charge but lack the bedside manners to win enough votes to get them elected. Again, thank God!
Here's a question for you. If I signed my posts with a first name such as Ruby or Howard, would that make me brave? I just wondered.

Thursday, May 21, 2009 6:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:27 and 3:05 - can we get back to that please and stop this other nonsense. Allen Barret why not set up one thread for childish adults. They can go there to throw barbs back and forth. Then we won't have to wade through their tantrums on other threads.

Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9:02
What I have to say is not nearly so childish to you as it is aggravating simply because I offer an opposing viewpoint to what permeates this blog. Explain to me how this can be a free speech forum when you would channel those with opposing views off onto another "thread for childish adults" so you can say anything you want here about anybody you choose without a single word of opposition. I think not!

Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only thing you oppose is Mr. Barrett. You have not offered any other thing to the blog at all. You never have anything to say about the topic, just some drivel about you not being allowed to disagree. If you disagree with the subject, by all means say so. But instead all you want to do is talk about Mr. Barrett.

Friday, May 22, 2009 8:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WAB is just a diversion to keep people from having to answer the hard questions.Seems no one wants to deal with the real issues in this county.

Friday, May 22, 2009 11:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right 11:03. Do not know WAB. This topic is not about WAB. This is about me, Joe Taxpayer, monies being wasted. Can we have some numbers please? I have asked my commissioner's. They did not know the answer to the total dollars spent. So, lets see. Vote for allocating the monies. Does not have any clue if the money is being spent wisely. What the heck is wrong with this picture? The elected officials asked for our vote. Got the job. Now, if you want to sleep well at night, DO the right thing and manage our money!!!

Friday, May 22, 2009 12:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Many of our commissioners do not have the education to understand just what they're reading. But we elect them anyway. This practice is starting to really hurt us and with blogs like this how can we get qualified people to run for an elected office ?

Friday, May 22, 2009 1:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So are you saying "qualified people" won't run because of this blog? Cause folks are talking about what is going on? Cause folks are wondering where their money is being spent. Cause they're asking questions now instead of keeping their mouths shut. Sound like you are one of those educated commissioners that likes status quo - everying your way. Ye know, it don't take no edukayshum to see that you ain't tellin us the whole truth bout stuff. Like jest whose pockit my tax dollers are goin in. Throw it all out there feller. I can read nuff to see what you're all bout. Want to feed us a bunch on baloney - that's uneducated version of that stuff you eat - bologna!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Folks have got a belly full. Things are being talked about. Questions are being asked and you better watch out fer that there roller coaster. It's gettin up a head of steam and aheaded toward your caboose.

Friday, May 22, 2009 2:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right on 2:53. Couldn't have put it better myself.Some of our officials want to feed us bull and keep us in the dark.This way they can continue to service their selfish agendas, protect their jobs or portray themselves as important in this community.One thing that rarely takes place in this county with our county elected officials is that they listen to the constituents that elected them.We have a mess in our school system with an inept director who is in place to serve himself.We have a director of finance that thinks she makes all the rules and is accountable to no one. Some commissioners who serve on the commission while employed with the school system are either too ignorant to understand what they vote for or are bullied by Jackson to vote in his favor because they feel their job or their spouses job is at risk if they don't serve him.This is true factual information.Whoever says it isn't true is either lying or a flat out fool or both. The good people elected can't do anything positive for all the corrupt ones running the show.The balance is off causing nothing to be accomplished or investigated and important matters get overlooked or flat ignored. The only time the citizens become important is during an election. Big mistake on their part because citizens know who the arrogant, good for nothings ones are.I actually believe some of these elected officials are in such desire for a title to validate themselves they don't realize or care about the oath they took when sworn into office.I am sick of it. I am sick of the poster that always mentions the gripe they have about "negative threads" on this blog. Hello out there, there is a lot of negative underhanded crap going on, wake up!! You must be among the corrupt ones.This is MY county too and I have a vested interest in its prosperity regardless of what some dimwits out there in denial or worse may want to acknowledge.There is a great BIG WAKE UP call headed toward our county.It's coming fast and furious.People need to rise up like they never have before and DEMAND accountability.If you pay taxes you have a voice.Everyone elected or being paid with my tax dollars is accountable to me so, when I start asking questions, somebody better be making some serious strides to get those questions answered.Some elected officials have lived here all their lives and people know them well.Know their families, go to church together or children go to school together or maybe they are co-workers.
Don't think you won't be called out on the carpet or to task.Credibility is a precious thing and one slip of the tongue can totally discredit and individual and it would be awful for past and present bad deeds to come to light.I am specifically addressing those like
Bill Holt and Tommy Campbell who both love themselves so much they can't see their own flaws. You sit so smug in your commissioner seat thinking you are better than everyone else and believe you do not have to answer questions or serve the people. What you both need is a good ole fashion A#$ whipping. I call em like I see em.
These two men are among the most arrogant and smart mouthed of them all.People know you well and maybe they respect you to a point.
But after you are revealed I doubt respect is any description anyone would want to attach to the two of you. This has all gone on long enough. I know criticisms will be leveled against me for voicing my opinion but believe me I haven't arrived at my conclusion lightly.Much time has gone into this and many 2nd chances given to be upstanding and do the right thing.
Anyone wants to criticize me you have that right. I will not waiver from my convictions or my beliefs when it comes to protecting my county and the wonderful people contained within. So, bring it on..I'm ready.

Friday, May 22, 2009 4:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 8:59
What I had to say about "free speech" is NOT drivel. You like that word, don't you?
And then there's 2:53 who thinks he or she is being cute by "words" like edukayshum, ain't, jest, etc. to characterize people as stupid and uneducated just because they happen to live here.
Hey, it just occurred to me that this is an issue with which I disagree. You can't categorize all Giles Countians as stupid and uneducated just because some are. Those people exist everywhere, even in places where some of you intelligent people originally came from. And yes, I did use a preposition at the end of that sentence! So why don't you give it a rest? Otherwise, you appear to be quite arrogant.
To 4:12
I applaud you for voicing your opinion. I don't agree with it, but that's OK. The Bill of Rights gives us both the privilege of disagreeing. I just wish others on this blog would respect that right for those who disagree with them. If one has the right to express an opinion, someone else has a right to offer an opposing view. Otherwise, there is no free speech. But I totally agree with the last paragraph of your post; I feel exactly as you do, come what may!

Friday, May 22, 2009 5:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You don't have to agree with it 5:12. I am not asking you to. What I do ask is that you think about it 5:12. I have absolutely nothing to personally gain by making statements on this blog that are not true.I would never intentionally hurt someone that did no wrong. All I am asking is think about it.I have had personal experiences to cause me to arrive at the place I am at. It is scary these people have control in our government. People protect people and that is why no one is held accountable. It is always about how do I protect myself and get what I want. Where these officials should be thinking about their constituency.Doing right by the people. I am telling you they are not doing that. They simply aren't.
I appreciate that you respect my opinion. Says much about you!

Friday, May 22, 2009 6:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HERE IS A FIX!!!
Fire Dan Speer.
Use the money he is paid plus cost of perks to ADVERTIZE.
This should be a NO BRAINER.
At least get the word out that Industry is welcome and wanted in Giles County Tn.
It couldn't be any worse! If we get any thing to come in they can deal with the City Aldermen and Women. They have plenty of examples of Lease's from the past and anyone can give stuff away.
That has been proven before with the past history of the County Commission and the Assessor of Property along with Mr. Dan Speer!

Friday, May 22, 2009 9:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another idea: Most counties let their Chamber of Commerce handle the recruitment. Get rid of Speer and let the County Executive and the Chamber or just the Co. Executive herself handle the advertising. Make Mrs. Vanzant earn her keep like other county exective do in other counties. She can do as good as what we've got.

Saturday, May 23, 2009 8:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

S[eer would have to find more things to try to run his way if you take this job away from him. It seems that he is not happy if he is not Charles in charge----I guess the next thing that we will here will be the famous quote "There you go again----." Wonder who keeps turning up with that quote on these topics on this blog??????

Friday, May 29, 2009 3:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ideal - let him be in charge of the out house in the court house. - He'll be close to the action & able to know what's happening - might be a job he can handle

Wednesday, June 03, 2009 6:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wonderful comment upthread, if we had an independent, unbiased newspaper maybe we could actually see the facts about local government in print, or maybe hear them on local radio.

Sadly, local media is currently a monopoly controlled by the Hershel Lake empire.

Friday, June 05, 2009 3:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not likely that the local newspapers will report the complete truth about anything. I have heard a reporter talking with a high school principal about a news story asking if what they had written was O K. Then they went on to say I knew that you wanted it covered very low key. These particular comments were made about a drug raid in late 2008 or early 2009 at one of the local highschools. This raid was reported to be just a traning exercise for the drug dog or something like that.

You can't expect to get accurate information when that is the mind set of the reporters.

Friday, June 05, 2009 10:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah I remember something about that. They actually caught someone with drugs. Of course Jackson and Hastings do not want anyone to know what really goes on in our high schools but, ask a student. They will tell you anything you want to know.

Friday, June 05, 2009 12:49:00 PM  

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