Who Cuts The Grass At The US Post Office In Pulaski?
The question has arisen as to who is responsible for cutting the grass at the Pulaski Post Office? It seems that recently none other than the chief custodian of the Courthouse was seen cutting the grass at the post office in the middle of when he should have been working at the courthouse. If there is too much work at the courthouse, as has been claimed, how can the chief custodian take time from his "duties" to cut the grass at the post office? Was he paid by the post office to do this, was he being paid by the county while he was doing this, was he paid by both?
Isn't it time job evaluations were done on county employees and actual duties identified. Being overworked and not having enough time to do a job doesn't seem to limit some employees from visiting other offices thirty and forty minutes at a time, hanging on the rail or sitting in the Gazebo smoking and drinking coffee, shopping or leaving early. Allen Barrett
Isn't it time job evaluations were done on county employees and actual duties identified. Being overworked and not having enough time to do a job doesn't seem to limit some employees from visiting other offices thirty and forty minutes at a time, hanging on the rail or sitting in the Gazebo smoking and drinking coffee, shopping or leaving early. Allen Barrett
posted by Allen Barrett | 3:15 PM
248 Comments:
The chief custodian you speak of is a good man and I find ift hard to believe that he would be doing another job while on the clock for the county. As much as I like him, I certainly hope he is not doing what you say. I understand times are tough and many of us are struggling to make ends meet. I am going to assume that he was taking a vacation day with the county in order to be doing another job. It is a possibility. Perhaps, that would have been a good question to ask his direct supervisor before making it public knowledge. I hate to see anyone be unfairly accused. Mr. Barrett I agree with you on some things and disagree on others, but I have never let my differences with you affect our friendship. However, I wish you had thought this one through a little better. If only you had checked it out first. I hope you are not right. I am concerned that if you are wrong of how much more criticism will be aimed at you. And, justifiably so.
To the 11 June 3:55 poster. I appreciate your concerns. I have had this information for over a week and it has been very thoroughly checked out. There was no vacation or sick time taken and the grass cutting was clearly done on county time. The county executive is very aware of this matter as are several commissioners but no official response has been made for the general public.
Time management seems to be a very big problem and the solution so far seems to be hire more people.
The county can not afford more expenses and the taxpayers can not stand any more burden, especially when you consider the coming increases in utilities, food and gasoline. Belt tightening is in order on all levels. Allen Barrett
Oh my...what a can of worms this is. I hope this situation is remedied quickly. Allen is right in that time management does seem to be a big problem. It's things like this that cause people to have even less (if that's possible) faith in their government.
Okay I was unaware that you had fact checked the matter. I misunderstood you to be asking the question not knowing the answer, but informing the public on the front-end.
This may sound like a dumb question, but I am basing it off of how I read the topic. The post office is stand alone, unfunded by the county right? My understanding is the post office is federal and the keeping of the grounds would not be funded by our county tax dollars? So how is this happening on county time and what explanation has been given? If we have more work than workers, then we need everyone to on top of their game. Regardless of how much work there is or people to do it, no one should be working a second job while on county time. I still hope there is an explanation for this and wish this was not true.
While we speak of janitors. What about the assistant who stands around the annex talking politics all the time. Every single time I have been there lately he is standing running his mouth about some elected official or something he doesn't like. He bad mouths them. Seems his medication needs to be stronger again.
We have Roger Strickland and Jim Mooney and Missouri Phillips and Clara something. Isn't there one more now too???? Funny how our list of county employees keeps growing while our population and jobs keep shrinking!!!
4:59
If you recall, USPO went private several years ago. No longer through the Federal Gov. They do, however, use Fed guidelines as far as benefits and holidays go. You will find their web is now USPO.org and not .gov as it was many years ago. Strictly a private organization.
If this is correct, both the chief custodian and the county executive should be ousted from their jobs for malfeasance.
WAB You suggest you have proof positive of this incident. Do you have the date and time the mowing was happening, and a person who witnessed it willing to come forward and state the same?
Perhaps, this individual was working on his lunch hour mowing. That would be a reasonable explanation. Please tell me you checked that out as well WAB.
5:10 So am I to assume that our county is not responsible for the building and grounds but another private entity?
Oh Lord, the reporter is now after Roger Strickland. I have never seen a man who needs a real job more that wab.
And yes, another negative thread. One has to sit around idly and think up things like this to cause other people grief! I just don't understand it. I'll bet it would take every bit of fifteen minutes to cut the post office lawn with a push mower. But of course, that's not the point, is it? Somebody is trying to get away with or cover up something, eight?
5:35 The County is NOT responsible for the Post Office Grounds.
6:16 You miss the point of the subject that being the county employees are responsible for county property ONLY while being paid by the county.
I'm a private entity. I want my grass cut by county employees!
But do you know all of the circumstances surrounding that situation?
I am afdraid that one of these days someone is going to say the wrong thing about the wrong eprson and it's going to get ugly. I hope and pray that day never comes, but it's almost happened at least once before.
This is unbelievable. Now we have the reporter going "undercover" to try to catch Roger Strickland wasting time? Oh please. Wouldn't the situation be better served if the reporter became the minister and attempted to deliver Mr. Strickland rather than to criticize and alienate him?
According to you 9:21 Barrett should have cut the grass for Roger then paid him for the privilege, unbelievable. I don't think Barrett needed to be under cover because I Roger that day also and he was right out in the open. His wife works for the post office and he was probably helping her out but it was not right
what ever the reason was.
9:45
Go back and read my post again. That is NOT what I said or even implied. It is unbelievable that you would get so confused over something so simple.
So you saw Roger as well? Do you have evidence that he cuts the post office lawn regularly? I doubt it. This could have been a one time thing, and surely you have better things to discuss than this.
Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:22:00 PM
Keep stirring it up, don't let die down.
Remarks keep coming back is what keeps the blog going. So I'll help keep it going.
Never think about turning the other cheek
great idea 8:48 turn your head while a thief picks your pocket, turn your head while food is taken from your child and given to another, turn your head as you struggle to make ends meet and another lives high at your expense, turn your head and pretend everything is fine while the county dries up and blows away. It's like when ppl refuse to watch the news because it's depressing.
Be kind, for everyone you meet you meet is fighting a hard battle - Plato
If he were hurt (or someone/something else) while on duty for the county working off site who would pay for that lawsuit? If he is being paid to work for and on county property that sums it up. The lawnmower belongs to the county right? Some of you want to dismiss dishonesty for possible explanations or excuses. County employees work on county property ONLY and cannot receive two checks while on duty for another. Grounds for dismissal in any rules or regulations no matter how nice a guy he is. Weed out the loafers and the hangers on for someone who wants a good job with excellent benefits. There are enough out there right now that if you are not doing a good job many will take your place. Many who need to feed a family and put food on the table in exchange for easy labor. What they do at the court house is easy labor so stop whining and start working.
8:48
You need to stop and consider who is at the very root of stirring up trouble and strife. Does your Bible mention anything about God's displeasure with people like that? And yet, you want to give him a free pass when he is the one doing the stirring. I am just one who continues to point it out. I think you need to rethink what you just said.
I wonder if you and the "reporter" would be satisfied if Roger lost his job over this mess? I suppose his followers would praise him for helping make Giles County a better place to live!!!! Heaven help us all.
Attack the messenger and overlook the offense of the wrong doer. What does your bible say about killing the messenger and rejecting the message, seems they are doomed to hell.
What does your bible say about justifying wrong doing for that is exactly what you are doing.
How does a thread about cutting the grass at the Post Office turn into a "read your Bible" lecture? Get a grip people.
Perhaps the chief custodian was taking a vacation day the day he was seen mowing the law of the post office. Was he only seen doing this once or multiple times? I would not put it past that county executive of ours to cast the custodian to the wolves. If it is our county executive that WAB approached for information, it is a possibility she did not tell the truth. Being that her and the truth don't know each other.
The question remains and begs an answer. Does your Bible mention anything about God's displeasure with those who go about stirring up strife? What does It say about being contentious?
WAB Just maybe Strickland works a 4 day week and was cutting the grass on his day off. Surely you checked this kind of thing out before posting this thread. If that is so, please state same on this blog in order that people dont continue to post purely on speculation. You owe that much to the posters as well as Strickland.
Either way, it would seem that wab has probably made at least two more enemies....Roger and his wife. And for what????
Who cares about the grass... What about Judge Damron getting arrested AGAIN for a DUI, in Columbia last week?
wab
Someone told me that Roger works four days a week at the court house. If that's true, why couldn't it be that he cut the grass on his off day? Lots of people work second jobs, don't they? Is there anything wrong with that? Even if it wasn't on his day off, would you be troubled if he cut that lawn on his lunch hour during a work day? Or would you rather the county force him to only eat lunch on his lunch hour?
You have really "stirred it up" this time. Will there be a public scknowledgement of that and an apology forthcoming?
To 5-33AM today :-
Where did you hear this item re Damron ? Doesnt seem to be in the Columbia paper news or police reports . So what is your source (or sauce ? ) .Or are you nailing jello to the wall ?
I am wondering if this is the second occurrence with Damron. I heard recently that he also got a DUI. If this is true,who was the arresting officer and other details. Would be nice to have concrete evidence. I understand that Damron has a problem with drinking and driving and this has been rumored to have happened before in the past. Mr. Barrett, do you have any knowledge of this happening?
If he doesn't he will surely find out. Look for an exclusive report soon.
While he is at it, WAB needs to give the specifics after research, if Roger Strickland did mowing at the post office on his own or county time. If he does not find out about the Strickland thing one way or the other then we will know the other side of WAB and perhaps what some posters have to say might prove true..
Roger Strickland could mow the post office lawn on his lunch hour and still have time to eat lunch and drop by WalMart for Pete's sakes!
I remember reading a couple of years back about one of the garden clubs looking after the post office flowers and grounds. What happened to that?
It appears that someone who is not accustomed to egg on the face may get egg on the face this time. How about a big slice of humble pie to go along with it?
What's new? For year Mitchell Birdsong cleaned stores on the square & mowed private lawn when he should have been at the courthouse.
Commissioners were aware at the time of Mitchell Birdsong that he ran a grass cutting service and seems he stored some equipment in the courthouse basement. Store cleaning I never heard of. If the commissioners were aware then Vanzant would have been and should have put a stop to it.
Birdsong is over. If Strickland is doing the same thing then it needs to be revealed and stopped. It should be up to some commisioners to step up to the plate and sort this out. Not WAB.
8:55
Thanks for clarifying the obvious.
I'm afraid Roger is going to be ran out of town on a rail or perhaps lynched on the town square for this. I'm wondering if we sometimes need to remove the beam from our own eye so that we can see how to remove the splinter from someone else's eye.
I'm afraid Roger is going to be ran out of town on a rail or perhaps lynched on the town square for this. I'm wondering if we sometimes need to remove the beam from our own eye so that we can see how to remove the splinter from someone else's eye.
Come on, the people of Giles County haven't gone that crazy yet.
They're not going to lynch or run anybody out of town.
If Roger was doing something wrong he might get fired. I hope he wasn't doing anything wrong.
Of course not! I only being facetious (love that word), although there may be some who would call for Roger's head. Amazing, isn't it?
Talk about exaggeration 7:40! All anyone wants in this county is for people to be honest and do the right thing. We can't give a pass to someone who has done wrong(if they have that it)just because they are a nice person. Everyone should be held to the standard regardless of who they are. We are given a choice in this life to make the right choice or the wrong one and occasionally we all make a wrong decision. Some bad decisions are public and some are private but, a bad decision is a bad decision. I still don't discard the idea that WAB's information to verify this issue if received by the "lady in charge" was misinformation. It has happened in this county before where someone was out to get someone else and deception shed bad light on a county employee. Just something we all need to think about. I am still hoping Roger was doing this on his lunch. It is not out of the realm of possibility.
5:52
Of course it was an exaggeration something like saying the moon is made of green cheese. We all know it's not. I was not making a literal statement and thought you knew that.
As has been mentioned, Roger could have mowed that lawn, ate lunch, and dropped by Walmart on his lunch hour before returning to work...on time. I would say this would be more probable than to have someone "suggest" something sinister.
This should be looked into by the county. If Roger was wrong it could be an innocent mistake. Precautions should be taken to make sure it does not happen again. If the county owns the mower, if there was an accident and Roger or someone else was injured, would the county be liable?
Who is the 5:52 you are referring to 8:29?
11:23
My mistake; that should have been 7:52.
So what the general census is that if Roger being a good guy look the other way? Or, make up excuses for possible alternative stories to why and when he might have been mowing? Or extremist opinions on actions that are never going to occur (lynching and running him out on a rail)for sarcasms sake. How about a simple fact and fix it approach. If he did do this on county time step up and document it. Any further infractions are grounds for dismissal considering the seriousness of this one. Again, if anything happened on county time (if he were on county time) the lawsuit would shut this argument down. Then it would be a question of who knew and why did they NOT do something? This county has a history of lawsuits...now you know why. Rather than take corrective action the "nice guy" or who they know is put into play and the problem is expected to just go away.
11:05
Oh, that was a typical statement by those who "know best" around here. Surely, you were just being humorous in saying that the powers that be would look the other way regardless if Roger is a nice guy. Well, Roger IS a nice guy, and I'm sure there's a LOGICAL explanation for his being seen mowing the post office lawn. It just seems to me that "the reporter" would have been better advised to have simply called Roger and asked him about it rather than to stir up all this trouble.
Would this bother you nearly as much had Roger mowed the lawn on his lunch hour? And so what if he did?
It would have bothered me had he mowed it on his lunch hour. Nice guy or not wrong is wrong. His lunch hour while working would not matter much if he or someone else were hurt while mowing for the post office. Do you really think it would take one hour to mow? Does he get paid for a lunch hour break? If he or someone else gets hurt while he is mowing on his lunch break who is liable? Even if he were the worst jerk in the world the legality and liability are at question. If he is not on break then he or anyone else should be held accountable nice guy or not.
As I have said, Roger could mow that lawn, eat lunch, and drop by Walmart, all on his lunch hour. Why don't you call up to the court house and ask him if he gets a paid lunch hour? While you're at it, ask him about his being "spotted" mowing the lawn at the post office. Demand that he explain his actions to you. When you learn that it was either on his day off, an unpaid lunch hour, or after his regular working hours, I hope you will be so embarrassed.
I would hope that the reporter is embarrassed. But will he apologize? Let's wait and see on that one.
To the anonymous who stated, "Oh Lord, the reporter is now after Roger Strickland. I have never seen a man who needs a real job more that wab". I am sorry you do not feel that a Preacher/Minister is considered a real job. Why is it that most of the "Anonymous" church goers don't mind their pastors stepping on their toes every Sunday morning because of their religious actions but when Mr. Barrett steps on their toes for someone's unjust actions they start finger pointing and name calling? People are on here asking what other peoples bible's say, I'm sure it is word for word the same as yours. What did Jesus do when he saw something unjust? Remember when they were having the yard sale at the temple? Should Mr. Barrett react that way. Does anyone ever question the reporters from the Free Press or the local radio station? Did Mr. Strickland break the rules once on accident or is this the only time he has been caught? There are thousands of first time offenders sitting in jail as we speak.
The question is still out there, "Did Roger mow the post office yard on time he was being paid to be working at the court house."
Anyone have any proof other than guess work? I hope your guessing is correct, but would love to know.
Rea the second post. WAB states that "The county executive is very aware of this matter as are several commissioners but no official response has been made for the general public". Don't you think that if he was in the clear that they would be the first to jump up and down laughing and pointing a finger?
12:30
I'm wondering if our perceptions of what defines a preacher/minister are totally different. I personally have never seen a minister behave as this one does. Have you?
Oh, I'm quite aware that Christ became enraged and drove the money changers from the temple. But the Bible does NOT teach that we are to be wrathful and contentious or one who loves the preeminence and the sowing of discord.
To 8:03
Have you ever stopped to consider that Mrs. Vanzant is aware of this situation (I'm sure she is by now) and understands how ridiculous the whole thing is and will not respond to those who are trying to stir up trouble on this blog? I have a very strong suspicion that this is EXACTLY what is going on...which is nothing. She, like most sensible people, understand that the more you stir something the more it smells.
I wonder if wab is happy with this? He of all people should realize the trouble that can be promoted by a loose tongue. And YES, the Bible teaches against that!
One final thing; do you wonder why Roger doesn't respond to this garbage? It's called class. This I know for an absolute fact. And I see a lot more Christianity in him than, shall I say, in others.
Well Anonymous 8:33 I am glad to see that you have the ability to judge who is more of a Christian than others. Maybe when God takes a break on judgement day you can fill in for him.
You ask "Have you ever stopped to consider that Mrs. Vanzant is aware of this situation (I'm sure she is by now) and understands how ridiculous the whole thing is and will not respond to those who are trying to stir up trouble on this blog?". First of all do you read the other posts? WAB has stated the county executive (Mrs Vanzant in case you did not know) as well as other commissioners are well aware of this situation. I'm sorry, back to your question. Yes I have thought about it and NO I do not think that is what she is doing. I'm sure she is just like you and cannot wait to respond to comments that are made. The difference between the two of you is that she knows that it was wrong and is trying to avoid the situation.
Please don't be mad at me, you asked and I was merely responding to your question and statement.
8:56
You ask that I not be mad at you after you suggest that I should sit in judgment of others when God takes a break? TRhen you suggest that I don't know something is wrong and she does?? Are you nuts or what? Why would I be mad at someone who insults me like that? But I'm not angry. It's more like I'm dumbfounded by those remarks.
Of course I know Mrs. Vanzant is the county executive. Why do you think I mentioned her as such in my post? Were you just trying to appear witty? No, she's not sitting back waiting on a chance to respond to this garbage. I KNOW what I'm talking about there. And NO, she doesn't dictate rsponses for others to post on her behalf.
The personal bickering needs to stop and get back on subject.
The point is, if J. Vanzant and commissioners are aware that Roger Strickland IS mowing grass at the PO on county time, this is considered mailfeasance by the State which should result in Vanzant and Strickland losing their jobs. The PO is a private business and not part of the county responsibilities. Not only is this cheating Giles Co tax payers it exposes the county to a lawsuit.If Strickland was mowing on his own time but using county equipment, again a stop should be put to the abuse of county property.
WAB, we need SPECIFS on date, time when the mowing by Strickland was witnessed and proof that Vanzant and some commissioners are aware of this.
Yes I am nuts. Once again let me ask you, do you not read the others posts or your own? You said "Of course I know Mrs. Vanzant is the county executive. Why do you think I mentioned her as such in my post?".You did not mention her as the county executive. I was not trying to be witty. I was just trying to inform you that the county executive that WAB was referring to was the same person as Mrs. Vanzant. You also asked "Why would I be mad at someone who insults me like that?" you should'nt be, Christians don't get mad. Then you go on to state "No, she's not sitting back waiting on a chance to respond to this garbage. I KNOW what I'm talking about there. And NO, she doesn't dictate rsponses for others to post on her behalf." Sounds like she just did.
*Yawn*
Yes, you are indeed nuts! Why are you splitting hair over whether or not everyone knows the county executive is Mrs. Vanzant? I thought most people and particularly the more "enlightened" like you would know that.
I think you need to get a life or at least a good hobby. Perhaps a trip to your therapist wopuld be in order?
WOW! Holy scandal Wabman! Way to go! Look’s like you’ve cracked the big case! I’ve got an even better incident of public corruption in the County system! You’re not going to believe this, but according to a source, it‘s a fact! Recently, a neighbor of a 3rd cousin of mine, who lives in Alabama , told me that he was passing through town last week and saw a paid County Official actually helping an elderly lady out of her wheel chair and into a car - and the kicker is - ON COUNTY TIME! He said it took almost 15 minutes of valuable tax payer money. Can you imagine! Of all the nerve! Where are my tax dollars going?! Obviously being thrown away! Boy, if I ever see any paid County official doing such criminal activity on County time, I’m calling you ,WAB, to get the word out! You can sure get it done!
The wabhound will be on the trail. Treeing at will and barking as loudly as he can until someone notices him. And if that someone happenes to ask him to tone it down a bit, he will resort to calling names and accusing the offending party of picking on a private hound (citizen). Hilarious.
Good post there 7:26
726 752 You didn't read the next days paper - there was a report of an old lady being mugged, raped & car jacked. She claimed there was some snoopy idiot with his hat on backwards watching the whole thing, but never offered to help her or call the police.
Says she's going to whack you ob the head if she ever sees you again!
No wonder this town is dying, with complete and absolute morons on here posting and not reading or even making a pretense at trying to understand the professional workings of a municipality.
It does not matter what the topic is, most do not care; if Mr Barrett said it, it's wrong according to you. Never would it occur to a single one of his detractors to take the info posted here and make it your business to find out the facts and post them yourself. No, you would much rather sit back and attack him. That requires less work, no brain exertion and since the facts are irrelevant, you've got the best of all scenarios. Mr Barrett voluntarily makes it his business to keep an eye on county happenings. He wasn't hired to do it by anybody. You don't like what he has to say...hello geniuses, then don't read it. You think it's mean and underhanded? Once again, then don't read it.
In case you brilliant thoughtful people missed it, the post stated that a county employee, during reg working hrs was seen at a location other than his reg job assignment, doing a job not in his job description. As a taxpayer, that upset Mr Barrett, as it would ANY responsible citizen. It would have upset any of you had anybody but Mr Barrett reported it because I've read some your posts on here. It is only because Mr Barrett reported it, that you are against it. Then you attack his profession, his church, his motives, etc...I have never seen him attack any of you, your motives, job performance, Christian behavior; oh forgot, he doesn't know who you are. There's the big difference. It takes a big man, or woman to attack someone without giving their own name. You have a choice about reading his posts. Why don't you start another blog and report issues that are important to you? Or is the only issue of concern that of silencing Mr Barrett? My guess the starting of a blog would require a little work and research on somebody's part; can't think of any one of you name callers willing to do that; Much easier to sit back and criticize and actually learn about how county gov't works.
No, keep your little nasty idiotic cheerleader, hero, reporter comments to yourself. I'm new here and have never met the man; don't need to. I know his type though; doesn't always get it right, but he's trying and takes a lot of crap for it to boot. It's just stupid and none of you are fooling anybody with your so-called defense of the people he "attacks". Let them speak for themselves if they are worried about it. None of you are that noble to step up and defend anybody and anyway who needs a defense by someone who wishes to remain anonymous. I outgrew imaginary friends when I was three, bet all these people that need your noble defense did also.
It's still America, don't read it if you don't like it. Stop being a martyr, it's wearing thin!
Deanna
P.S. 8:57 Take a lesson from Letterman and your sarcasm regarding rape. Nothing funny, cute or clever in your comment. The only purpose your posts serves is to further the stereotype of ignorant hillbillies. That is the most vile disgusting thing I have seen on here and if I had the means, I would find out what your cowardly little name was and find a way to prosecute you for such innuendos. What a pig you must be.
deanna..
Where have you been? You do realize of course that those like you are so much smarter than we are? Oh, please save us! Teach us how to live and what to think. Would you do that for the sake of Giles County? Make this a truly wonderful place to live!
You didn't have to mention AGAIN that you are new here. That's quite obvious.
8:45 And yet you still read posts you don't like; Don't know about being smarter, because I sure didn't understand your post. However, many of the people I've met here are very intelligent, I consider them friends and am offended by your constant insulting of their mental competence. Ever heard the saying, "Lead, follow, or get out of the way." Don't like Mr Barrett, then pick one of the above and run with it. Are YOU intelligent enough to do that?
To Deanna, Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:39:00 PM
Wonderful post. You sure hit the nail on the head.
I've lived in Giles County all my 73 years and very proud of what Deanna said.
Another thing I donot know WAB.
8:45, sorry did she step on your toes?
deanna...
I absolutely stand in awe of your intelligence. It must be frustrating to have to cast your intellectual pearls before swine.
Yes, I became quite familiar with lead, follow, or get out of the way since I happen to be a combat verteran and, by the way, proud of that!
Uh, did I mention your hero in my 8:45 post? You are the one who brings up his name. Toucy, touchy, aren't we? With all your brilliance, it just bewilders me how you remain a cheerleader for rude and arrogant behavior.
You say you are offended by some of the things I say on this blog? Well, take your own advice and don't read them! I noticed that you didn't take offense at my suggesting how much smarter you are than others. Interesting.
To 9:20
No, nobody stepped on my toes. Why do you guys continually have to suggest soemthing like that? Everybody who doesn't see eye-to-eye with you is not somehow "corrupt" (buzz word) and dishonest! Get over it!
Can you people not see where all this suggestion of corruption, name-calling, and the like have gotten us here in Giles County? We are at each others' throats as has been mentioned, and I wonder if that's not the real objective in play? Some people love drama and strife. Someone please tell me how this has helped make this a better place to live. It seems that making Giles County a better place to live is the convenient reason or excuse given for all this ranting, raving, and whining.
TO: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 11:58:00 AM---- WELL STATED! I'd guess the WABettes never even gave that thought any consideration.
12:37
Two sides to every story.
The ones for WAB and the ones against just have to disagree.
No one wants to ignore the other's post.
Whether WAB is right or wrong why do we have to keep on at it.
GOOD NEWS -
The $1.5 million 2006tax increase was defeated!
The $2.5 million 2007 tax increase was defeated!
The $800,000 2008 tax increase was defeated!
Ain't gonna be a 2009 tax increase!
I'M HAPPY!!! Happy, Happpy, Haaapy
Why are you whining about WAB? Are you mad cause WAB & Mr. Winkles were jailed because they started the GC tax revolution! The first sit in that brought down tax slavery & oppression of the productive? You coulda, woulda, & shoulda, but didn't cause you got no giddy up go
The pot is heating up. Are you be the frog who forgot to jump & turned to soup instead
To 12:37
Thank you for your response. I just can't understand why people fall in line behind this mess. My question remains and begs an answer from some of these brighter and more enlightened folks. How has all this trouble helped to make Giles County a better place to live. I just wish they would go live somewhere else if they think we are so dumb and "corrupt" here. I believe we would all be happier.
Again, thanks. They think I am the ONLY person in this county who stands opposed to how they act. And I will continue to do so as long as they resort to mean-spirited attacks on those they dislike.
8:13
You are referring to "these brighter and enlightened folk," What folks? This thread seems to have been written by WAB only. Why is he not coming forward and providing the proof posters have been asking for? 8:13 should not assume there are other people behind this besides WAB.
The question was asked "Who cuts the grass at the Post office?" Was Roger suppose to be the one cutting all time?
No one else wants to check and see, it's so much fun to just bitch about the post.
WAB doesn't have to check into it. He has asked you to.
I don't want to check into it no more than any of you do.
I just can't understand how anyone thinks they are better than anyone else. Whether you are for or against WAB.
We are all short of a marble or we wouldn't be posting on here and signing anonymous.
8:32
Where have you been. It's your hero and his followers. You see them all over this blog and quite often in the letters section of the local newspaper. And I've never read the first poasitive one when it comes to Giles County. There's ALWAYS something wrong or someone getting away with unprosecutable crimes.
Why is wab not coming forward with more "truths"? Who knows? Perhaps he's embarrassed about the trouble he caused Roger Strickland (among others) or he's on special assignment somewhere. Maybe he's sitting in his car in the Walmart parking lot trying to catch an employee staying too long on smoke break so he can report it to the world and get that person fired!
8:57
Keep trying but you can't shut him up.
You just can't see you are as bad as he is. Two peas in a pod.
Again a disclaimer, but not being from around here, I am still disbelieving at the # of folks who criticize a person for exposing POTENTIAL misdeeds. Nobody else willing to research; such apathy is sad and when defending their inaction they insult the intelligence of the natives; Of course I know it's sarcastic, but seems like we've heard it so often, the poster must truly believe it.
Ok, so here is a tidbit that didn't come from WAB, maybe you folks with blinders will read this: Go to the WKSR website and read and really read the announcement of the work session of the school board. What is says is that they will meet to work on the budget, then in a special "called" meeting, meet to APPROVE it. No discussion, no voting, it's a done deal???? Anybody else see anything wrong with this picture?
Deanna
Noticed all those positve comments, it sounds like it is in the bag. Just needs signatures.
Sounds like business as usual, don't you think!!!!
deanna...
Well please explain to us apathetic and mentally lazy people what the "truth" is.
I'm all for exposing misdeeds, but, once exposed, butt out. What is it that you cannot understand about that? What do you suggest? How about a lynching or tar and feather scenario for those you deem so wicked? We have institutions that are in place to deal with wrongs. Oh, are the "corrupt" as well?
8:57
I am the 8:32 you responded to but I can assure you I am NOT a follower of WAB and he for sure aint my hero. Then you refer to WAB's followers as people who write letters to the newspaper. That tells us nothing as there are letters most every week.
WAB where are you with the proved facts about Strickland mowing the post office?
Dang, I should have said "we who are apathetic and mentally lazy". A lesson in grammar will be forthcoming, I'm sure.
Uh, I said "potential misdeeds" and why are you so defensive? You don't seem to be willing to step up and give an accounting, as is your duty and my duty and all citizens duty. One person does and then is slammed, but if silent, people ask him for info. Amazing.
My best guess is this employee who you all are so protective of is quite capable of stepping up to the plate, if HE so chooses. Doesn't seem to bother him, in your words, "butt out" like you said, 1:11. You claim your outrage is the attitude of the poster, but clearly it is not; your outrage is because the boat is being "rocked" and change is difficult. Of course there is corruption here, AND sincere, dedicated, honest public servants as well. My statement still stands, you don't like wab's posts, then don't read them and use some of your righteous indignation to gather info yourself. Yes, people who want issues ignored are mostly apathetic, some are guilty, some are lazy, and some just haven't learned that it is their right to speak up. But I've met very few stupid people in my lifetime and certainly the percentage of stupid people in Giles CO is not as high as you keep insisting it is. I do NOT for one minute believe you dislike wab for his attitude, arrogance, etc. That is too easy of a fix; you know which one's are his, don't read them! You won't do that which proves you, for whatever reason enjoy them. At least be honest about your motives, since you are an expert on wab's motives.
What noble people on this blog, hate what and how wab posts things, but continue to read for the greater good.......LOL
Kudos to you
Deanna
Deanna, I believe that approve means a vote. It may not be approved but whatever will be accomplished after discussion by the board. Why it was termed approved I don't know. They did not approve it at the last meeting so I would not guarantee an approveal this time either. As for the mowing, the yard at the courthouse is not much bigger than "a postage stamp" so it could not take long to do it. I would say a lunch hour is more than enough time. I don't know the man but I do know there are a lot of things I do on my lunch hour that have nothing to do with my employer and are none of there business because it is MY lunch hour.
deanna..
How frustrating it must be for you to be so smart and then have to cast your intellectual pearls before swine like me. You are, in my humble opinion, looking pretty silly right now, but bear in mind that I am only describing your behavior.
The boat is being rocked and change is difficult? What a stupid thing to say to someone you don't even know. Hey, I'm all for change. But you people want to force your higher-level thinking and will on others, believing in your arrogant hearts that you just naturally know best how everyone else should live and how they should think. Well, it AIN'T gonna happen the way you are going about it. By the way, if YOU don't like my posts, why don't you take your own advice and stop reading them? As I have said, I neither like nor dislike your hero, and you and others who are his cheerleaders should know that by now. But you know what? I really don't care what you believe about what I have to say, although you should appreciate my being here to match wits with you "noble" people. Otherwise, you would bore each other to tears, and this so-called free speech blog would die a certain and rapid death.
I just wish I were as smart as you apparently think you are. We would both be impressed with ourselves, wouldn't we?
Have a wonderful evening. I'm sure you will be back with a rebuttal.
Alfred
4 paragraphs Alfie and still you said nothing substantive. Hmmm can't figure out if you work for the County Government or the County School System. Why so defensive? The "cast your intellectual pearls before swine" phrase over stated on this blog. Are you the one that keeps saying in every post when your dander gets up? Must be the only thing your tiny brain can offer. Get off the WAB crap, we are all sick of it! Even those who don't support or agree with him. Your posts say the same thing over and over. Do you copy and paste? Just wondered. It might save you some time in the future.
Of course you wish you were as smart as Deanna. With that saying you keep rattling off each time your ticked off is a clear indication of your intelligence. You can wish it never hurts, perhaps one day you will achieve the intellectual goal you so aspire to.
7:59
Yours is one of the most hilarious posts ever! You deserve recognition for that; perhaps your buddies will congratulate you. Again, hilarious!
What difference does it make who I work for or if I even work at all? Besides, that's none of your business.
Defensive? Not me. I asked deanna about her intellectual pearls, because I wanted her to think about how arrogant she comes off.
Get off the wab crap? ALL I am doing is responding to you cheerleaders' posts. You guys are the ones who are so "defensive" about the reporter. And then you have the nerve to accuse me of the same thing.
You say I wish I were as smart as deanna. Outrageous! No, I SAID that she and I would BOTH (operative word) be impressed with ourselves if I were as smart as she apparently thinks she is. As for my intellectual goals, I'm satisfied with where I am. Are you?
Finally, I admit that I've used the "pearl before swine" idea on a few occasions. It just seemed a good way of showing empathy toward you guys who aren't as appreciated for your brilliance as you'd like to be. Surely, you can appreciate that.
Alf
4:21
My apologies. I thought you were one of the cheerleaders.
759 - You forgot to note the pearls before swine reality check.
Sounds more like boss hog has em by the family jewels! Gosh - wonder if he is a she??? She'll rebut if he is.
What is a rebut anyway - comming back for another favor or a sudden stop?
Isn't it funny 7:59 what a defensive comeback from 8:44? They assume anyone that has a grievance is automatically part of WAB's posse. They make sarcastic remarks about their intelligence, when show just how intelligent they really are. Yeah I would say they are caught by the short hairs. Let's watch em squirm. They are eventually going to squirm themselves into a hole. As far as gender, who knows. I would say probably a she but one can never tell. He or she has some sort of fantasy with cheerleaders and WAB. I doubt they can post one sentence on this blog without mentioning the him the way they adore him. Sounds kinda twisted to me. I apparently have touch a real nerve with old Alfie. Guess I must have nailed it when guessing where they worked.
9:58
No, we assume that anybody who resorts to low-down mean tactics toward those they dislike or disagree with are nothing more than troublemakers....something akin to spoiled brats who demand their way or else they will pitch a fit til something is done.
Sarcastic remarks? You guys are masters of the art. And you become "defensive" when someone like me points that out.
Oh, here we go again talking about gender and sexual fantasies. It sounds so Freudian, and I'm left to wonder what you are trying to project onto me. The childish statement about fantasies with cheerleaders and with your hero are hilarious.
Yeah, you touched a nerve with me, but it's called a "funnybone". You should be a comedian......after you seek professional help. Seriously.
Alf
Hey 7:59, what do you think about Alfie's most recent post? Trying to cast their intellectual pearls before swine.? Hehehe..You know what they say about assuming..makes an ass out of you and me. Wow they really do believe to be superior to the rest of us! It surprises me that someone would assert that being an informed citizen is being a troublemaker and where the spoiled brat part came from leaves me baffled. Do you have any idea who "you people are"? It seems old Alfie has quite an imagination, I thought we all grew out of the imaginary friend stage long ago. Who mentioned "sexual" fantasy? Seems Alfie has more than just an active imagination, he or she has their mind in the gutter.
Alfie thinks I could be a comedian, what do you think? I have certainly contemplated it before.
It seems that as frustrated as Alfie becomes with my posts and he or she's attempt to dismiss me, they just can't seem to let it go. If everything I say is rubbish and apparently invalid why do they keep talking about it? Oh well, I can't explain ignorance. Gotta run, I have an appointment with my therapist...hehe.
8:33
Be not dismayed; you are doing an excellent job of assuming. Oh, but how could I dismiss you? It's people like you who keep this blog going.
I hope your therapist can help you to deal with the issues you obvioulsy have. Ask the therapist about paranoid schizophrenia, displacement, projection, and grandiose delusions of importance. I am confident that he or she will find you among those. Good luck.
If I don't get a swift and scathing rebuttal from you, I'll "assume" that you had to be committed. Obviously, you should be. But you know you're a nut, don't you?
I forgot to sign my name to my 1:27 post.
I am......
Alf
To Alfred: Yes it is very frustrating, as YOU say to "cast my pearls before swine." But please remember, those are your words, not mine. The issue is or should be OUR tax dollars being spent properly.
Here is an analogy that some will understand and some will blow off; doesn't mean I am being arrogant, it means I am THINKING.
There are some citizens of GC (alf) who are to county government what NBC news is to our President. That is, no disagreement must ever happen and any problem must be blamed on others. This is still America and this blog is a classic way of discussing issues. Again I remind folks, the officials who are suspected of either minor or major wrongdoing or unethical practices are apparently not bothered by the posts. Do you staunch defenders not give them enough credit to have the ability to speak up if they thought it necessary? Or, as apparently YOU believe, they are so incompetent that they need your blind defense?
Let's all quit cluttering up the blog with critiques of the posts, and discuss the issues. We all might learn something.
Deanna
new blog idea. if you have seen any misuse of county or city funds please post?
deanna..
How can YOU be so hypocritical? You suggest that we all (other than you guys) stop cluttering up the blog with critiques of posts, and yet you are doing the very thing you condemn. Laughable indeed!
You folks have made it abundantly clear whom you suspect of minor and major offenses. Having done so, wouldn't you think it about time you butted out? Or do you just love drama? I think you do. No, we so-called "staunch defenders" do not think the kind of foolishness you suggest. We just happen to KNOW that most of those you constantly criticize have far too much class to get down to your level.
You seem so unhappy here around all the intellectual misfits and mentally lazy people. Have you ever considered moving to another city where people would better appreciate how smart you are? That would be a win-win situation.
Sorry, I was critiquing your post. But let's look at it more in terms of dialogue than clutter.
to 9:27
How about a thread that addresses those positive and beneficial things done with local tax dollars? What a refreshing departure from all the negativism, wouldn't you say?
deanna,
I got so busy cluttering up this blog that I forgot to sign my name.
I am and remain.....
Alfred
Alfie, alfie, alfie, I included myself in my post regarding critiquing the poster;nothing hypocritical there; Strike one for you. Again, I have no idea who you refer to in the plural sense of my post by saying phrases such as "you guys"; I post my own thoughts all alone, as I said, I'm new here. But hey, thanks again for the warm fuzzy welcome as evidenced by your statement that I should just leave town if unhappy with the status quo, probably shouldn't work to make things better; that might be considered progress. As for the so called "classy thing" those who are employed by county gov't are doing by remaining silent; perhaps they would speak up if they wanted a defense...yet you still feel they aren't competent; maybe you should "butt out", again using your own words.
Thanks again for making me feel so welcome; I understand the rules now, newcomers are welcome as long as they don't disagree with county gov't decisions; hmmmmmm not unlike what's happening around the world, on a much much much smaller scale of course.
I enjoy my life here Alfie, but your remarks may just be the last straw; plenty of surrounding places to live and pay taxes that are still within commuting distance. Thank-you, and I hope nobody ever tells you that "your kind" isn't welcome in your "adopted" community because of their personal beliefs. Just curious, are you of the islam faith? None of my business, just a lot of similarities, particularly the no disagreement thing.
Deanna
to 9:27
How about a thread that addresses those positive and beneficial things done with local tax dollars? What a refreshing departure from all the negativism, wouldn't you say?
Sunday, June 21, 2009 2:01:00 PM
haven't you seen the almost empty thread for positive postings?
By the way with the thread to blast WAB why are so many post about him still in the other topics? Sign me Just wondering.
Well what do you suggest Deanna do 2:01 or Alfie or whatever you call yourself? Deanna is just responding to you regarding your opposing views. Should she keep quiet, oh yeah she should move, I forgot. That is how you feel about anyone with a differing opinion from your own. Are you that shallow of a person to insult and belittle a person because they disagree with you?
The number of citizens is growing in Giles County including some of your County Officials who are aware and are good people are sick of the wrongdoing, lying and outright uncooperative County Officials. OH MY, did I say some County Officials were good? Yeah,you heard right. You need to not oblifuscate in your posts. Makes it hard to understand any logic you may be trying to portray. It isn't my fault or anyone else's you are such a baba. One thing do make abundantly clear to us all is that no one would be so defensive against the rest of us speaking out unless they are among those being questioned. Although you and I both know you will disagree with that statement, it is what it is.
5:55
No, I'm not suggesting anything. I merely said that if she (deanna) isn't happy here then she should CONSIDER moving to a place where people will better appreciate her.
Speaking of a differing opinion, that has always been my argument against a bunch of know-it-alls who think they have all the answers. I could care less about YOUR opinion; just don't try belittle those who may not agree with you. That's the ONLY cause I defend, pure and simple. You can speak out all you want; that's the heart and soul of free speech, isn't it? Just try to use a little class in doing so, and people like me won't be reminding you about how arrogant and smug you come across. OK?
Oblifuscate? Where did you get that one? Please don't be OBtuse.
to deanna
No, I am not of the Islamic faith? Why would you even suggest that. Like I said, if you aren'yt happy here, you always have the option of relocation just like anyone else does. And you are dead wrong if you think I am so closed minded that I wouldn't welcome people to our community. I shouldn't even bother to tell you that some of our closest friends HERE are relocated from California and Indiana. But the difference is in that they didn't move here with a "we know best" attitude like some people have done. They integrated into the community and lead peaceful lives. Perhaps some of "your kind" could take a lesson from them.
Hey Deanna, apparently 6:14 has no idea how to use a dictionary. What 6:14 is oblivious to is the fact that "homegrown folks" share our opinion. Many in fact in county government. Changes are forthcoming! Once questionable things are brought to persons attention they are very concerned as should the "know it all citizen" alfie or whoever should be. I wonder now if they will turn on those county officials who are questioning things now. The problem is they don't want to believe any wrongdoing, corruption and deception is going on. There will truly be egg on their face when all is said and done. I imagine this blog will fall silent when it happens because they will have nothing to say.
Isn't it amazing the state of denial these people are in? You are obviously like me and stay informed, talk to commissioners, attend meetings and ask questions. Don't worry about the naysayers as they haven't the insight we do for the lack of involvement they take in our community. They live in a dream world if they think all people are honest and upfront. It is going on in the federal government, state and local. The naysayers are too afraid to get involved, ask questions. They might be faced with the moral and ethical obligation to contact the proper authorities and express what they know. This is an easy way out for them, they turn a blind eye and get their info 2nd hand.
I have your back Deanna and you can rest assured you are right in the way you feel. If you only knew, really knew what is truly going on. It would knock your socks off.
Hey Alf I am very happy for you that you have "foreign" friends who are content to move to this community and "live in peace." Sorry I don't fit in and upset your sensibilities, but I am a "worker" bee and if I see a wrong, I work to help fix it, not run away, but again I glad you and your friends live in peace. I would imagine your life would be much more peaceful if you stayed off the blog, since that is what you proclaim you want. Maybe it's you who loves the drama. Oh, well, guess the world needs martyrs also.
RE; arrogance, re-read YOUR post; people would be happier elsewhere if they didn't make trouble and rock the boat and just kept their mouth shut. Exactly whose job is it, if not John Q. Public to monitor public officials, and please don't say the ballot box is the only tool to use; we can't hold an election daily, weekly, or hourly, as may sometimes be needed.
There are many, many dedicated public servants here, but Alf, I gotta try one more time and let you know, there are some "bad" apples as well. You turn a blind eye toward them and I will continue to help create a better GC by staying informed, and trying to help fix things; To each his own; I am out of pearls; Alf it's been real. Oh, almost forgot my islam inquiry; you have a real problem with those who disagree with authority and gov't, that's classic islam philosophy, thus my question.
To all who support my stance and also believe in accountability, as Alf will proclaim he does, to you I say thank you.
Deanna
The naysayers haven't the insights you do. How can you not say that's arrogant and egotistical? Oh, you are so full of yourself. Can't you see that you are much more needed elsewhere?
You insult me by calling me Islamic. How dare you in all your arrogance. You don't even know me. And believe me, I don't want to know either you or your cohort who continues to cheerlead for you.
As I said, I for one will be here, the Lord willing, to call your hand to it each and every time you attempt to slam someone you don't like or agree with. And it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the way I feel toward criminal acts and wrongdoings. So please give that a rest, your most sanctimonious one!
Deanna,
Very good post! You are very wise to be so well versed in what transpires in beautiful Giles County. But, as you have learned all the beauty in the world can't disguise the problems we have here. I can tell you are a very well-informed and articulate individual.There are many like you here in this wonderful county of ours. It is thanks to you and others who speak out and give those unable a voice. I am sorry that you have been made to feel unwelcome by some (Alfie) in our county. We always welcome new ideas and anything that can help us progress and be a better county. As much beauty in the landscape and friendliness of citizens we do have much room for improvement. This county has been stagnant for much too long. Some of our leaders in this county have been at the forefront of this endeavor to keep us in the dark ages. But, make no mistake about it, I am well known in this county and hear a lot of opinions and citizens feel much the same as you and want a better Giles County, a better school system. Citizens know the reason we lag behind and hope for that to change everyday. I just want you to know that Alfie doesn't speak for the majority in this community by far. It is closed mindedness such as his/hers that needs to be rooted out. It is painfully obvious to many that Alfie is out of touch and(mind)to portray his opinion in any way as speaking for the smarties or dummies. Yes, I know we can't all be as enlightened as Alfie appears to believe he/she is. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know something stinks in Denmark. It does boggle the mind though why Alfie always chooses to bring up the "cohort & cheerleaders". As someone else had mentioned on here previously, there is some sort of fascination by Alfie with those people. I guess maybe fear of having something uncovered sinister about him/her. Perhaps Alfie is feeling the bloodhounds closing in. Alfie seems Anti-American in some aspect I agree. No intrusion into government. Just trust them since we elected them. Ignorance truly must be bliss for Alfie.
Anyway, appreciate your comments and understand you definitely have support. Thanks for making the chose to move to our beautiful county and keep up the good work of keeping yourself informed!
Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:17:00 PM
Good post.
Deanna, don't judge the rest of the people in Giles County by Alfie. She is just one likes to have the last word.
to 10:17 deanna cheerleader and cohort
Yes, she is wise to choose a wonderful and beautiful Giles County. And YES, there are problems here like anywhere else, but we don't have to continually "beat a dead horse", do we? You guys have sufficiently exposed all the people you consider evil and dishonest, haven't you? I think it hit bottom when some wanted Roger Strickland's head. That let me know that some folks will stop at nothing! It also told me that NONE of us are above being singled out in that manner. But, as someone has said on this blog, one day these people are going to start picking on the wrong one, and that will not be good.
Again, if you have the proof of criminal activity, why don't you stop with this mess and turn it over to the proper authorities? No, you can't do that, can you? It's apparently more pleasurable to cause as much trouble as you can. BUT, in spite of you, Giles County is a wonderful place to live.
You can call me apathetic toward the county all you want to, but I think you and I both know that to be a lie. Were I like that, I wouldn't be on this blog at all. I love Giles County and cannot understand how you people are making it a better place to live. Is it by divide and conquer? I wonder since so many people are angry and divided these days. And NO, it hasn't always been this way. Wonder why not? Oh, let me guess. You guys have enlightened us, right?
Finally, you mistake my disgust for these people with what you call fascination.
8:16
I was about to suggest that people in general not judge the majority of Giles Countians by a few disgruntled and never happy complainers.
By the way, the name is Alfred and NOT Alfreda.
Okay right to the point-if the man was mowing propety other than county property on county time he was in fact stealing from the taxpayers no matter how nice a guy he is.
Who asked for the mower's head? All I read was a statement of FACTS. Why is that so threatening?
Deanna
Thank you 8:16 I appreciate your post. What is amazing about 8:17 is they just don't get it. I have never seen someone so hell bent on bunching folks into one neat little category. It seems if you are against wrongdoing and speak out, then you are a follower of WAB. If you have an opinion that at all differs from 8:16 you also are accused of being a WAB follower. Assumptions certainly can mislead you down the wrong path. How the Roger Strickland got brought up in the mix is a mystery to me. It is the closed mindedness of 8:16 and inability to listen that causes such drastic jumping to conclusions. You try to explain and it falls on deaf ears. What I really find funny is this statement often made,"Again, if you have the proof of criminal activity, why don't you stop with this mess and turn it over to the proper authorities? No, you can't do that, can you? It's apparently more pleasurable to cause as much trouble as you can". Who ever told 8:16 that anyone did or didn't go to the authorities, he is completely off base. It is statements like that in 8:16's mind that leads me to believe that in we are not allowed to have open dialogue about it. Apparently we have 8:16 trying to police this blog and tell us what and what not we can discuss or think. Sounds what? UnAmerican to me. My, my we can't even discuss among our peers our thoughts and concerns. The reason being, it bothers 8:16. They don't want us talking about it. Does that seem odd to anyone other than me? You can most certainly tell 8:16 has a connection to someone in county government to be speaking out with such vigor and defense without even knowing the facts. It is such a shame to walk blindly through life. But, it is thanks to people like 8:16 for our county becoming the way it has. No one wants to hold people accountable or even have a checks and balances in place to make sure everybody is doing their job. There are way too many do nothings in this county who put it on the back of others to report anything suspicious. Shame, shame, shame.
I wonder how 8:16 will manage to dismiss the fact that Mr Strickland was given a written reprimand for his activities at the post office?
Who reprimanded Roger? Our honest and upfront County Exec? HAHA. She has a tendency to think she can reprimand those she disagrees with or make her uncomfortable. I will believe he was reprimanded when I hear it from Roger's mouth. Janet is always out to screw someone somewhere to suit her own needs. If the situation with Roger does hold merit I find it the funny the pot calling the kettle black, when Janet doesn't even live in this county. Talk about double standards. Janet Vanzant is a witch and her days are numbered in this county. Mark my words and see!
Monday, June 22, 2009 9:34:00 AM
I must of missed something. I didn't know Mr. Strickland was given a reprimand for his activities at the post office.
Looks like this post has been solved.
Let's move on.
9:49, You just don't get it, do you?
Are you Alf? If Vanzant is the supervisor, then she actually did her job by reprimanding, if the facts presented here are correct. Her job performance on other issues is irrelevant. Now should she, herself be called on the carpet for other activities that are questionable, ABSOLUTELY. But if all that is known regarding this particular thread is true, in this case she did her job. What part of the supervisor/employee relationship do you not get? You probably need to get off the fence, you could get hurt. All defensive of county gov't till it comes down to one you don't like doing their job regarding someone you do like, then you are all indignant about an official; I believe in gov't accountability, and I also believe in protocal, and it doesn't really matter if I think my boss is wrong, unethical, or whatever, they are still my boss. I do believe in due process though and will pursue unfair treatment incidences with a vengeance. (that is an expression, folks, not meant to assume I will extract revenge; I can just hear it now).
Agree with 9:50, issue is now a non-issue.
Deanna
Deanna, I am the one that has had your back on all issues you have commented on on this blog. Now, I don't want you to take this the wrong way and I understand your point of view. But, you have admitted you are a newcomer to this community and I want you to know that in this instance we have to throw caution to the wind. I am the first person to respond on this blog regarding this issue dealing with Roger Strickland. I know him and believe he is an honest man. However, wrong is wrong and in this case if he did what has been alleged then he is wrong. What you need to understand is that Janet Vanzant is his supv. and she is not an honest person. She has to be watched with an eagle eye. That is something you would not know if you were not from here. You automatically trust someone until they deceive you. I understand your point and it is valid. But, just because 9:50 made the comment they made earlier does not mean the issue is a dead one. I have learned that you trust no one. Get the facts yourself. Please understand I am just trying to give you a little info you would not otherwise have being a new person to our community. Just proceed with caution in believing certain statements on here. What I am saying in no uncertain terms is Janet Vanzant is a dishonest person. I have personally experienced it with her and many, many others have experienced it also. Just be careful if you put your trust in the information coming from Vanzant. Best bet is to ask Roger Strickland. I plan to.
11:36 Deanna here-I appreciate your comments both for what you said and how you said them. So many could take a lesson from your example. You are right, I do not know Ms Vanzant. My only point was that as a supervisor, if an employee was found to have committed wrongdoing, then he/she should be reprimanded. I think that is true of any job, public or private sector. I believe you when you say you have been on the receiving end of less than ethical treatment personally. I have as well from the school board, which is why I only criticize that office and no other specifically. All I know regarding Ms Vanzant is what I've read here, but I guess I have it ingrained in me that "the boss is always right." Doesn't mean the boss can't be replaced and penalties for wrongdoing imposed.
Again, I thank you for your kind supportive words, CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, and understanding. Dialogue with grown ups who understand that it is ok to disagree is so refreshing.
Deanna
Well Deanna, I agree it is refreshing and have to admit I was hesitant to check back to see your response. I knew what message I wanted to send to you but, I didn't want to seem like a smartypants or know-it-all as some get accused of for stating their experiences and opinions. Thank you for being open minded. I state my opinion and my opinion alone based on experience and facts. How I wish sometimes I was wrong about things. It sure would restore my faith a little but, the facts are the facts and even though we do not want to believe them because we like someone or have a positive opinion of them does not change those facts. I supported Vanzant in her bid for re-election and had heard all the rumors of what a dishonest person she was. I let it all fall by the wayside until I had my own experience. Then, everything changed and what a disappointment it was for me! I am not trying to persuade you one way or the other to like or dislike Vanzant.I feel you need to make up your own mind based on your own experience. But,I think there is much more on this issue than meets the eye. If all is above board that will be great. I will hate it that Roger made a bad decision. But, it will not change the outcome of how I feel wrong vs right. Everybody makes bad decisions and disappoints themselves and others. There is no reason to condemn someone for using bad judgment. We all have at one time or the other.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I wonder how 8:16 will manage to dismiss the fact that Mr Strickland was given a written reprimand for his activities at the post office?
Monday, June 22, 2009 9:34:00 AM
I read the above post and replied with this:
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Monday, June 22, 2009 9:34:00 AM
I must of missed something. I didn't know Mr. Strickland was given a reprimand for his activities at the post office.
Looks like this post has been solved.
Let's move on.
Monday, June 22, 2009 9:50:00 AM
It seems some don't like the reply. What will it take to make you happy?
Did Roger Strickland get a reprimand or did someone just say that?
deanna,
You know what? I give up. you will always have the final "supervisory" word, so what's the use? But I warn you now that without those like me, this blog is headed for slow demise. Think about it. Who will be here to debate you and your cohorts?
I was talking with a relative in town today about this blog situation. I was asked if I thought these people would use some sort of computer technique in order to find out who I am...not that I have a thing to hide. But I do have good reason to remain anonymous, and, because of that reason, have decided that it's just not worth it to take that chance. The relative also told me something I already knew anyway. Hardly anyone other than the whiners and complainers come to this site anyway. That's when a light went on in my head. That explains why there are so few on this blog who oppose you guys. They don't come here! I should have known when a friend of mine said he didn't have time for all that mess. And I should have realized that no matter what someone like me has to say, it would make no difference. So have at it. I'm joining the ranks of the classier people of Giles County who would never be a part of this.
Alf
Sounds like Alfredo's relative may have done us all a favor. Hopefully, it will take their advice and move on to greener pastures. What is the funny thing is there are more of us than there are of it. I would be happy to have a grownup conversation without the childish behavior of Alfredo. Since when did this blog become a forum for debate and arguing. It is the naysayers that want to discount the truth, therefore arguments ensue. Just friendly conversation with people who see eye to eye would be nice for a change. More people would be inclined to offer suggestions if they though they would not be crucified by those like Alfredo. I think this is a good thing. So, Alfredo, is farewell to you in order? One can always hope. Bet ole Alfredo will have to have one more stab at it. Appears it wants to always get the last word.
I was excited to find that there was something in Alf's head, there's a light. The problem has been that light has been out all this time.
What a straight shooter Alf is claims he has nothing to hide but still remains anonymous.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news Alf but in order to join the "classier people" you have to be able to contribute some class, guess you'll have to remain with the ostriches.
Deanna here- Not sure what Alf's last tirade was about, but since he has "sworn-off" the blog, I can't ask him. I don't really understand what his "supervisory" statement regarding me was about; don't know who my cohorts are; don't know how his relatives know who comes to the blog and that it is mostly whiners; don't understand his, what appears to me, contradictory statement that he has nothing to hide but can't take the chance of being found out; and in this day and age, I would have thought that he knew that ANYTHING put out in cyberspace is there forever. It would be a matter of who has the time and resources to find out where the posts are coming from.
As for warning me of this blog's possible demise, it's not my blog and I don't even know how to contact the owner to suggest a topic. I do think it is sad that he was not capable of having a "conversation" on here such as I had with June 22 @ 2:20. We didn't agree on each point but respected the other's opinion and if one of us had FACTS wrong, simply pointed that out with corrected info. I am sorry for Alf and others like him that believe all must completely agree, how very boring. I am also sorry that he thinks he has been "ganged" up on with "cohorts" of mine. They exist only in his mind. I do hope the "relative" he asked in town regarding the blog's security and the "friends from other places" can comfort him and give him the "peace" he longs for. Ironically his decision to leave the blog is one of the few times, (yes, there have been others), that I agree with Alf. I have always maintained that if a forum such as this upset someone, that they should exercise their freedom to refrain from reading it.
If anyone knows Alf, since he is NOT reading this blog anymore, please convey my best wishes to him. I harbor no ill will toward him or others who are like-minded.
Deanna
Guess Alf was afraid he would be found out and loose his job.
Alf don't give up. We the people of Giles C. (the true people) know what you are talking about. Comment was made about Barrett not suing anyone now. Well he is . The County. He loves us so much he and his cohorts have to sue us, again. Sure was a quiet little county before we were invaded by the KNOW IT ALLS!!!!
Is that really true? A preacher is suing the county? You can't be serious. If that's Christianity, I would have no part in it.
To 5:01 Are you another member of the welcome wagon? I guess from your comments us foreigners can infer that we are false people, not welcome here, and if passing through, should keep our mouth shut, regardless of witnessing first hand less than ethical behavior. Honestly, what do you think should be done if you know first hand of behavior that is not illegal, but certainly not ethical, what if an elected official blatantly breaks a campaign promise, truly, I would like to know how you think it should be handled.
Why is it so distasteful for some to discuss public issues, good and bad. I don't understand and I really really want to.
As for your comments, 5:58, you would not have any part of Christianity because ONE person does something you don't agree with? You would let that person you disagree with come between you and our LORD? Preachers are people, no more, no less and if you find one that never makes a mistake, please let us all know where his JOB is. You would hold a preacher to a higher standard than you would hold yourself, not even GOD does that. And by the way, surely you are not one that jumps on the bandwagon, criticizing one who allegedly spreads rumors without proof but signs his name. Surely you are not guilty of also spreading rumors without proof only not bold enough to sign your name. Anonymous accusations are the work of immature troublemakers. At least with a signature, if one disagrees, a mature person knows who to approach. I do not find in my BIBLE where preachers should not sue the county and I find many cases where Christians are charged with speaking up when authorities are not doing as they should.
But again to 5:01, thanks for rolling out the welcome mat to us "foreigners". I think we all understand the rules now.
Deanna
It seems that even when a separate thread is posted so everyone, who so chooses, could bash me at will and still allow others to follow the topic of the different threads some are still not content and seek to alter the course of conversation.
First, I'd like to say thank you to those who have defended me on these threads. I have no problem with being criticized but do get somewhat frustrated when those criticisms are unfounded, simply have nothing supportive other than personal feelings from people unwilling to identify themselves.
When criticism has been offered in a serious manner I have tried to address those issues, perhaps not to the satisfaction of some, but as honestly and clearly as possible. I don't take it personally because someone disagrees with me, I have many friends that disagree with me at different times. If everyone agreed with me all the time I would have to question their sanity. Opposing views lead to greater understanding.
The criticism by the anonymous 5:01PM and 5:58PM posters is not only absurd due to its accuracy it is totally unfounded biblically. Paul was very critical of the Christian brothers at Corinth taking their disputes to a court where non-Christians were deciding the issue. Paul's contention was that having non-Christians decide Christian matters among the Christian brothers was absurd, it still is. I along with others seeking to prevent the county wide zoning filed a motion to have the issue come before a judge and allow the people to vote on the issue. This is not suing, it is not to gain monetary benefits, it is simply to stop an action that was illegally formulated, extremely ambivalent in it's wording and was pushed on the people without their approval.
I did not sue Mr. Cagle when he punched me, I brought charges against him which was settled with his guilty plea. There was no monetary exchange sought or made. As I have asked before should I have allowed the assaulter to go unpunished, should I have punched him back or should I have followed the law and charged him? For some regardless of which I chose I would have been wrong.
The question was asked, "If that's Christianity, I would have no part in it?" Does this mean that there is no place for lawyers, judges, law enforcement officers, prison guards etc in Christianity? Of course Christ opens His arms to receive anyone who will come to him accepting His way as theirs. Part of His way is to be good citizens, for me a large part of that is taking responsibility and being involved with our government. Sorry if that disappoints some but that's just what I believe. Allen Barrett
Mr. Barrett, you know very well what the Bible has to say about lawyers, and you can justify your actions however you want. But the truth remains that what you are doing is wrong. While you are at it, read up on what the Lord has to say about stumbling blocks.
Sorry, meant to say "even GOD does NOT do that." Regarding my statement of holding preachers to a higher standard.
6:44 a.m. Classic case of pointing out the fault of your brother while ignoring the "beam" in your own eye.
Pretty judgmental statements there. Maybe you should read up on what the Bible says about that. I don't see any "love" in your attempted "admonishing" of a brother. What is Mr Barrett doing that is wrong? Suing the county? Is that a fact or gossip? Why is it wrong, if it is a fact? Are you repeating gossip? And by the way, even if it is true, it's still gossip. Presumably, you've also read what the Bible says about that as well. Do you have a solution to any of the problems? Or are just a charter member of the "wab said it so it's wrong team?"
Deanna
It's still wrong no matter what you say to justify it. I am amazed that he ignores plain Bible teaching on taking one's brother before the law. I am not judging. I am only pointing out clear Bible teaching.
I too am a preacher though not a Baptist as I understand Mr. Barrett is. I must say that there seems to be a huge misunderstanding of Paul's words on taking another Christian to court. Mr Barrett is right in that Paul was addressing a specific issue
where people in the same church were taking others from that church to court and having Christian matters decided by non-Christians which Paul found disgusting. It's odd that nothing was said about this by the one criticizing Mr. Barrett. The other question raised was "should I have allowed the assaulter to go unpunished, should I have punched him back or should I have followed the law and charged him?", this also was ignored by the one criticizing. While I don't believe the person intended to imply that the law should be ignored or that the two men should have engaged in a public fist fight, that seems to eliminate any action other than to charge the violator with a crime, as the writer has suggested in other statements.
The problem with bringing the Bible into an argument is that unless you have a very good understanding of what it has to say you very often come across as
using it as a crutch instead of the guide it was intended to be.
As for the "stumbling block" comment aren't we all stumbling blocks to someone from time to time? Mostly to those who are looking for an excuse to not follow God. My intention was not to take sides in this matter but only to clarify a misunderstaning about God's Word.
James
Maybe some of us don't understand the Bible as clearly as you do. You speak as if you have the answers.
The Bible teaches that we all are brethren, doesn't it? What does the Bible say about praying for our enemies? I haven't posted anything on here about this matter before.
9:12
This is 5:01. Didn't say a word about forigners. I said invaded by Know it alls. Don' try to put words in my month. Lawsuits are lawsuts no mater how you address it. It still cost the county.
The county should follow their rules and there wouldn't have to be so many lawsuits. In times past a lawsuit could have been avoided if we had capable people making decisions in county government. Not all parties that bring lawsuits seek monetary damages. But, if the lawsuit is valid and the county is liable then that is unfortunate for the taxpayer. I'm one your probably one, that does not make me disgruntled with the party suing, it makes me upset with the county creating a liability. It's simple, do things above board in the correct fashion and taxpayers aren't subject to a penalty created by our county government. We hire and elect persons to do the job correctly, by the law and honest. Even though all lawsuits may not be avoided, doing things honestly would definitely reduce the possibilities substantially.
Praying for our enemies trumps that. Sorry.
So let's all just pray and let the crooks and criminals run free unaccountable. You sound like you work for the county 11:36. Don't want anyone responsible held accountable. Let's all turn a blind eye. You make no sense. Are you really serious about praying and leaving it up to the Good Lord? I suppose we don't need a justice system either cause the Good Lord will get them in the end. Unbelievable. Sniff, Sniff, the bloodhounds are getting close.
Uh, 5:01 you said the "true people", and used the word "invaded". Not many ways to interpret that.
James, thank you for shedding some light on that Biblical subject. I truly appreciate it.
As for 5:58, the one who is so indignant regarding the lawsuit, but has no problem apparently with this gossip filled blog that we all are guilty of participating in, did you go to Mr Barrett privately and then again with two or three brethren as witnesses before publicly condemning him? Please do not insult me by saying you were condemning his actions and not the man, your meaning was clear. Oh, I forgot, you may not have read that part of the Bible because you want NO part of Christianity if one man whose job is that of a preacher does one thing you don't agree with. Heard a statement once and I've never forgotten it; we are all sinful creatures and going to the "JESUS BUFFET" and picking and choosing what we want to obey and ignore is probably not a great idea and one that I know I personally, (can't speak for anyone else) will answer for. So 5:58, is Mr Barrett's sin or in this case perceived sin greater than yours of spreading and engaging in gossip, chastising a brother publicly rather than privately, harsh judgments and disavowing Christianity because of the actions of ONE man? I'm so grateful that GOD and not me will be the judge when the time comes.
Again, my sincere thanks to James, for your knowledgeable and non judgmental remarks.
Deanna
To Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:16:00 AM who asked "The Bible teaches that we all are brethren, doesn't it?"
No, it does not. While we are all the creation of God only those who chose Jesus Christ as their Savior are brothers.
We just disagree then. So would you say that one of your brethren who fell away is no longer your brother? Was the prodigal son no longer his father's son?
Don't try to twist things to fit your understanding, intelligence results from altering your understanding to fit the facts.
The question wasn't about a son losing his place with his father or about a brother falling away and losing his status as a brother.
The question you raised was, "The Bible teaches that we all are brethren, doesn't it?" I replied no it does not. Of course I was speaking in terms of "spiritual brothers". Biologically we are "related" but not necessarily brothers. As I said before "the brotherhood" results from a conscious choice of Jesus Christ as your personal Savior, aside from that choice people are left with their father the devil, relatives through Adam and Eve but not brothers.
I would be very interested in where you find anything in the Bible that supports your idea that all people are brothers.
Again, we just disagree. You believe what you want to and I will do the same. Or would you say that we all should see it your way?
Would you say that your brother in church who fell away is no longer your brother? You did not answer that question, and I want to know what your denomination teaches on that. Not trying to be argumentative.
Good thought! Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:16:00 AM "You believe what you want to and I will do the same". Problem with that thought is, where does that leave the Bible you began this discourse with by wrongly quoting. I prefer to look at what the Bible says then comply with it instead of picking what I want to believe and thus avoid those things I don't want to believe. Do you see the problem with that?
To Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:26:00 AM I'm not sure you are addressing me with your question but from the tone and form of your writing you may be the same person as the 6:16.
I have never put very much importance on what a "denomination teaches" I prefer to read the Bible for myself and allow the Holy Spirit to reveal His truth to me. There are many sources of information that leads to those truths. Each denomination has strongly held beliefs some are correct and some are just plain not supported by the Bible. Traditions and man's interpretation has been allowed to override the Bible in many instances.
If a "brother" falls away the Bible gives some very specific actions that are to be taken in an effort to restore him to "right behavior". If he ignores those efforts and remains separated from the church family he remains a brother but loses his fellowship. Again the issue you first raised was about everyone being brothers, and they very simply are not.
9:43
Ok, here's what the Bible teaches about a fallen brother. First, you go to him yourself, and try to restore him. If he will not listen, you take some men with you and again attempt to restore that brother. If he still will not listen, the church has no choice but to disfellowship him.
I'm sorry that you assume I do not interpret the scriptures correctly. Don't you see that?
So we are all God's children but not brothers? We just disagree on that.
You sound a lot like a preacher who posts quite often on this blog. Could you be Mr. Barrett? Not trying to be argumentative here.
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Why do all the posts on this site always turn into a Sunday School class?
They forgot about the grass.
They tend to forget a lot - when it suits them.
that's what happens when you start an off the wall , nonsense topic that has no sustenance - just somebody wanting to start something.
The blogmaster started the off-the-wall nonsense topic for this thread.
The blogmaster ask about the grass cutting at the post office. Then it seems others want to grip about something else.
Should I say "Welcome back Alfie, did you forget to sign your name?
Uh gee 7:26, the blogmaster is guess what? The BLOGMASTER. The word is self-defining. We are all free to read, comment, or skip any thread or posting. I agree with 9:04, seems like some just want to gripe. I checked tonight, there are literally hundreds of websites that have instructions on how to start your own blog. Anybody that truly did not like the topics or the postings or the POSTERS could start their own blog with their own rules. Of course that's not necessary if all you want to do is complain about someone who actually does research and validates it by signing their name. That can and is being accomplished on this blog without any thought or effort on the part of the complainers.
Carolyn Roberts, Pulaski TN
Well, well, Carolyn seems that when proof is requested to validate an issue it appears to be a ridiculous request. I don't always agree with WAB. In this case I don't feel WAB has been told the facts. Where are the facts by the way? I have seen nothing tangible. No letter of reprimand has been produced and posted on this blog. Why is it proof can't be offered to back up these allegations? I find it astonishing that some people on this blog want facts on some issues, but on other issues they choose to believe just word of mouth. Facts should be established for all issues that effect this county.
8:06, why don't you find your own proof, and if you don't like this blog, start your own. OR you could just gripe and complain; nobody on here owes you anything; find out for yourself
Carolyn Roberts
I'm not the one who claimed that Mr. Strickland was given a reprimand I only stated the fact that he was cutting the grass at the Post Office during the time he was scheduled to be working at the courthouse. As far as I am concerned the issue was reported and actions were taken to prevent future occurrences.
If you would like to ask Mrs. Vanzant about whether there was a reprimand or not you can contact her at Phone: 931-363-5300
E-mail: jpvanzant@energize.net
There may be some difficulty reaching her on Friday but she should answer the question or you.
Allen Barrett
Oh you made sure of that.
Made sure of what?
If Roger was given a reprimand , this issue should be settled. Maybe we should address the issues of the topics last paragraph.
I totally agree 9:43am. I was in the county finance office last week just before lunch and there was not a soul to be found. What...everybody does lunch at the same time?? Hardly what I would call good management! If all were gone to lunch a sign should be put on the door and the door shut and locked with a time of return. But, they should not all be going at the same time. Unprofessional and just bad management. There should be someone manning that office at any give time during business hours. Is this how my tax dollars being spent? Out in the real world employees take turn going to lunch as to not have no one there or close the office. Someone's only time to swing by that office may be on their lunch. How are they supposed to talk to someone if everyone is gone?? Ridiculous!!
Seriously, Friday,6/26 9:43, fess up, what did you mean by "Oh you made sure of that." Sounds to me like you now want to blame WAB if a county employee is not reachable during works hours, OR perhaps his "distateful posts" were not written quickly enough to suit you, so you could eagerly read them then profess to dismiss them as "arrogant, false, or mean-spirited." I hope I am wrong in my assumption, would love to know what you meant though, if you would please explain. I really would like to understand.
Carolyn
carolyn,
The remark was a response to Mr. Barrett's statement that the issue was reported and actions were taken. He made sure of that. It's all part of making Giles County a better place to live I suppose.
Mr Barrertt
You state "as far as I am concerned the iassue was reported and actions were taken etc". Is that statement confirming that YOU KNOW FOR SURE it was reported and taken care of as it should be? (In my humble opinion he should have been fired).
I'm satisfied that those responsible are aware of the offense and that actions have been taken that will help prevent such an act in the future. I believe simply by addressing the issue publicly the negative publicity along makes it unlikely a responsible person would commit the same offense again. Allen Barrett
I don't see where Roger committed any offense. The real offense is your making a public spectacle of this without having all the facts.
Mr Barrett
What actual documents DID YOU SEE that caused you to be satisfied appropriate action has been taken?
I didn't have to see any documents. I believe Roger is an honest person who made a mistake in judgment. Because of the type person he seems to be I don't think that kind of mistake will be repeated. Allen Barrett
Mr Barrett
If you didnt see documents how do you know he got a reprimand? Was it based on what Roger Strickland or somebody else told you?
How do you know Strickland even made this "mistake in judgement" in the first place? Was that because somebody told you he did?
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I consulted a psychic Orangutan in the Sahara Rain forest during a snow storm that burned all the vegetation turning it into Orville Redinknockers suspenders.
I have given you all the factual information about this incident and to continue asking the same ole tired questions is a waste of time. If you don't want to believe me you can either go find your own information or simply ignore mine.
If I tell you that the sun is shining and you look up and see it shining why would you then request some scientific explanation that proves the sun is shining. Nothing I say to you will be acceptable so you can just stay in your mortified stupor if you choose. Allen Barrett
WAB What it boils down to is why should anyone believe you?
Ole'!
Such arrogance from the little angry man with the Napoleonic syndrome.
WAB stated to go find your own proof, and even that didn't satisfy you. I doubt he cares whether you believe him or not, obviously your only concern is the arguement, else you would find out for yourself. If you really want to know, or already know, please give us YOUR version, but my prediction will be a giant smokescreen alleging WAB doesn't know, and how bad he is and blah blah blah. This will only prove, you don't know and couldn't care less cause for you, it's all about WAB. Really if it is so very important to put him in his place, then PLEASE do so. Bet you can't, bet you don't even care, just like to babble.
To the 30 June 9:04 poster:
You state, "WAB What it boils down to is why should anyone believe you?"
I would ask you when have I ever told anyone to believe me simply because I said a thing. Wise people always find out for themselves by following the evidence. I have simply stated what I know and tried to point others in the right direction to ask their own questions.
For myself I base my trust in people on the level of their honesty toward me in our past encounters.
As for my credibility, you can totally discredit me by simply bringing forth some evidence, not your feelings but solid evidence, that I have lied or passed on information that I knew was untrue. That should be rather easy based on the massive amount of criticism you have leveled at me, but then I have asked you to supply something more than your feelings, as the basis of your hostility, before. Still waiting but not expecting anything.
Allen Barrett
I'm just thankful someone else besides me takes issue with the little Napoleon.
And here you are again after telling all of us you would not be back on here. I knew you couldn't miss the opportunity to put Mr. Barrett down.
This topic has gone on and on and on? WHY? He did wrong, he was reprimanded, he's a good guy,move on and find something else to become indignant about. How about the lack of attention paid to people who beg for it here? Have you visited your neighbors lately? Please do because if not they will dwell on here like vultures waiting to pick a subject apart until it dries up. Sad that I even posted another addition to this.
Or try to pick apart someone they don't like on this blog.
Although there are many concerned citizens in Giles Co who do care about issues, wrongdoing, unethical officials and even corruption, the more vocal folks do not. Please notice I did not say majority do not, or ignornant do not. Do NOT read what is not there.
The reason and only reason that I surmise for the continuation of this thread is to hurl some zingers at the one person who admits to trying to find answers to problems. Maybe he gets it right at times and maybe he gets it wrong at times, but at least he is doing something. So many, (or possibly only one or two, how can we tell?), only care about insulting WAB, regardless of what he says. A prime example is what he pulled from the newspaper, not one of the anonymous's jumped on the reporter or Mr Lake. If someone put an unsigned note in your mailbox, you folks for the most part would disregard it as having no credibility, yet, even with the option of boycotting this forum, you make it your business to correct WAB's "misdeeds" using the flimsy, transparent excuse that you are stepping up for those involved in wrong-doing. You are not fooling anyone, anonymous has no, zero, nil credibility and by the way the snide jr.high like comments only contribute to your lack of substance. Wab researches and gives his take on the issues with no concern for public ridicule. I couldn't care less what his motives are, as some of you judgemental folks are prone to do, I care about the issues, and if I disagree, or desire more info, well I presume he is listed in the book, All you anonymous's are blinded to the fact that you do EXACTLY what you accuse him of with two slight differences: We cannot ask you personally for more info, and you ONLY comment on a citizen who has no, none, zilch access to mine or your tax dollars.
And that my fellow citizens is exactly why these threads are run into the ground. Take a good long look in the mirror, but perhaps you may want to remove the beam from you eye first. I defy one single person to give any evidence that will disPROVE a single one of my statements.
George Todd
Post by George Todd
Thursday, July 02, 2009 9:09:00 PM
Amen! Amen!
You got that right.
Fanny Brown
He insults others at will, and that's excusable? I hardly think so.
He insults others at will, and that's excusable? I hardly think so.
July 03, 2009 11:16:00 AM
Too bad everybody's not perfect like you.
11:25
Even Mr Barrett, although you would probably disagree with me on that one.
It's strange to me how there is a thread for blast WAB, but some of you still want to blast him on all other threads.
Why can't you tell why his post was wrong, not just you don't like him.
I can't tell if what WAB said is right or wrong, because no one can tell why it's wrong. Just something they want to say against WAB.
3:12
I would refer you back to the 11:16post. That should answer your question.
Anonymous said...
He insults others at will, and that's excusable? I hardly think so.
Friday, July 03, 2009 11:16:00 AM
That's suppose to give me an answer?
That's just more not talking about the issue the post is suppose to be about, but runing WAB down.
They say WAB is talking bad about other people. I guess it's alright for them to talk bad about WAB.
Maybe it's suppose to be "Do as I say, not as I do."
A loosing battle. Some people don't like Barrett and plan to talked about him instead of the issue.
How many post on this thread is about the topic, including this one?
A few, but very few.
9:08
That was an answer. You just don't want to face the fact that it's true.
By the way, you are right about the few disgruntled who are always "on message" when it comes to this blog.
9:08
When are you worshippers going to bring "the crucified one" down from his cross? I just wondered.
I don't know who you are, 6:23, but I know what you are, and brace yourself, fellow posters because this will be an eyeful. 6:23, you are the lowest of the low, a most sanctimonious ignoramus,self-righteous pharisee with an abnormal obsession for a private citizen who, because you don't happen to like, seek to discredit anything and everything he says. For once, I cannot blame you for not signing your name, I would be so ashamed of your comment and totally humiliated if I were one of your family members.
The one and only reason you type anything on here is to criticize Mr Barrett. My guess is you don't know him, and you have never read anything he has written. You read his name and your head starts spinning and you begin thinking up what is in your sorry excuse for a brain, cute put-downs. But you went to far this time, you arrogant jerk. Here is a great big bulletin for you. Just because somebody agrees with WAB, does not mean they worship him and you are a socialist dog for trying to silence his freedom of speech. Idiot that you are, you can't figure out that if you don't like his posts, you have a choice about reading them, but you, "holier than thou" jackass deny him the same privilege. Your asinine posts suggests than anyone that ever agrees with Mr Barrett is worshiping him and elevating him to the level of MY LORD. I took it personal, I honor no man as I do CHRIST and I consider your post blasphemy. "He insults others at will and that's inexcusable." "I hardly think so." No he doesn't, you sniveling coward, he calls a "spade a spade" regarding local gov't. You may disagree, I do occasionally, but I can have an intelligent "conversation" via this venue and learn something and respect different points of view. "I hardly think so", comment is equally ludicrous, as nobody cares what you think, and who appointed you the avenger of insults, anyway?
Oh, I forgot, you have muslim mentality, only certain people are to be protected, but citizens such as Barrett have no such right and can be insulted.
You are an imbecile and should get off the blog before you become any more of an embarrassment. Go get your news spoon fed to you, nice and bland as apparently that's the only way you can handle it.
To all others on here, I do apologize for blatantly being off topic, but when someone accuses me of blasphemy as this moron did, I feel I must speak up quickly. This infidel just trivialized my LORD's horrible death and the selfless sacrifice made for all of us, and I am afraid I just snapped. I hope that the folks that attack just because WAB said it will distance themselves from this moron and at least attempt a discussion of differing perceptions. Of course nobody is always right, nor anyone except the poster of 6:23 msg. always wrong. We call all learn something, but only if some of you will get past your bigotry and grow up a little! As for you, 6:23, your empty little pathetic posts in the future saying you didn't mean the disrespect of JESUS, will fall on deaf ears. Everyone can read how insignificant HIS life and death is to you.
Deanna
deanna,
LOOK, you guys are the ones who keep whining that he is so disrespected and hated...NOT ME!
You call me a low-life and you resort to the sleazeball name-caloling you just did?????? Incidentally, and since you are so intelligent, that post had absolutely NOTHING to do with the wonderful Lord Jesus Christ! So your accusation that I care little about His life and death is a bald-faced LIE! Did you get my attention? OH YEAH! And, you lknow what? I could care less if what I have to say to you about Christ falls on your "deaf ears" or not. I don't need your assessment of the way I feel about Him anyhow.
In the future, I would hope that YOU learn and understand what you are talking about before you go spouting off.
And you accuse me of blasphemy? You wouldn't sign your name to that, would you?
Yeah, I accused you of blasphemy but I can see why you misunderstood; Christians see the analogy of crucifixion and the ONE who died for us and that is who we worship, not a mere mortal who you accused us of worshiping and that is the very definition of blasphemy. But again, I see how you would misunderstand that. But the question remains, who appointed you the avenger of insults and why is your insulting of a person who posts regularly different from what you accuse Mr Barrett of, other than the fact he is man enough to sign his name that is? What is so wrong with various points of view? Bet you cannot answer that without insulting WAB, but guarantee you won't admit to insulting him publicly. If I disagreed with EVERYTHING he said, it would still be more credible than ANYTHING anonymous had to say. Seriously, all you haters of wab because it's wab and no other reason club, how much substance would you give an anonymous note in your email?
All the excuses that we are about to hear; stop and think: Would you accept the same excuse from your child for misbehavior. So transparent, so childish, and by the way, explain why my name calling was not justified? Bet you can't.
Deanna
I hear ya Deanna. You tell em. Bunch of idiots!!!
deanna,
YOU have got to be one of the stupidest people I have ever encountered. You come on this blog with your know-it-all attitude and think you can just say whatever you want about whoever you wish and expect to go unchallenged. Well I for one will NOT let you or the little Napoleon get away with a single thing! Not one!
By the way, you keep harping on all the haters of wab. I don't know of anyone who hates wab because he is wab. Are you really that stupid? Although I'm sure you would disagree and call me another name for saying this, I can tell you that he is very disliked around the county. You don't believe me? You're so much smarter than the rest of us, so why don't you do your own research? You ask about my accepting a certian excuse from my own child for his behavior, and yet you accept his behavior without question. Again, are you really that stupid?
What really made me your enemy is your arrogant assumption that I don't love the Lord. Well, for your information, I do and furthermore, I serve Him. I won't lower myself by asking you about your allegiance to God. I was raised better than that.
I'm sure you will offer up a scathing rebuttal to what I have said, but that's ok. People like you are just a "bunch" of hot air to me.
Finally, aren't you just as anonymous as I am?
Ok, your turn now. And you call me childish. What a laugh.
I'm not Deanna, but will throw my two cents off in this discussion, just simply because I can. Yes, Deanna can come on here and challenge anyone's thinking on the personal opinions she has. Nothing you can do about it if you wanted to. Yes, you can challenge her. But if you believe that your post 7:26 was your challenging her then I am a monkey's uncle. You sound like the childish one friend. I understand that you are trying to portray yourself as a christian, but from where I sit you certainly pale in comparison to a christian in your rants. Do try at least to do better in the future, if not for those of us trying to read your jibber jabber but at least the the God you serve. Have a lovely day!
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