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Giles Free Speech Zone
The purpose of the "Giles Free Speech Zone" is to identify problems of concern to the people of Giles County, to discuss them in a gentlemanly and civil manner, while referring to the facts and giving evidence to back up whatever claims are made, making logical arguments that avoid any use of fallacy, and, hopefully, to come together in agreement, and find a positive solution to the problem at hand. Help make a difference! Email "mcpeters@usit.net" to suggest topics or make private comments.
Contributors
- Free Speech? Yes! Spamming? No!
- Before You "Vote the Ticket," Stop and Think
- What We Need Is a Good Old Fashioned Debate!
- The Answers Are In, Part Two
- The Answers Are In, Part One
- Muzzled No More!
- Free at Last, Free at Last, Free at Last!
- Vanzant Replies to the Rumormongers
- A Couple of Announcements
- Find Out Where the Candidates Stand....
87 Comments:
To: The Bodenham Community,
I am from the Bodenham community and spent most of my school years at Bodenham. Mrs. Jane Parker was one of my teachers and I just loved her as a teacher and as a person that participated in community activities. Her children were much younger than I was and I didn’t have any direct socializing with them, but I can still remember Mr. Parker sitting at the country store all students could freely go in and buy snacks etc.
When I began to hear people speak about some of the bad traits in Janet’s personality, I chose not to say anything because I had known Mrs. Parker so well. Afterwards, I would tell my husband (not from Bodenham), “I don’t believe a word of what that person just told us.” I kept defending the family as a whole probably because the community was at that time so close.
However, when Janet’s actions, comments and misdeeds became a reality with documented “facts” I was so disappointed and dishearten not only for her mother and the many residents of the great Bodenham community that had worked so hard to get Janet elected, my self included, in the last election. I know many of those good people still don’t know the depth of her misdeeds and they are going to feel so betrayed. I have to wonder how many of them heard about the “lie” Janet started to influence the early voting at the Bean Rally and thinking it to be the truth. The confrontation is recorded and I have heard it. It makes me sick for them!
After all the latest information that has come to light is just a small portions of bad things she has done and just this morning I heard one of her radio ads saying, “Since I am working in the office everyday, it has been impossible to see many of the voters of Giles County.” That is an insult to the intelligence of the county’s citizens because everyone knows she and Jane, a paid employee, have been out going door to door during the whole campaign!!! I just can’t understand her thinking.
Another sad, sad thing is the strong possibility Kay Gibbons may lose the election this year due to her loyalty to Janet. For months, many people have commented about the manner, placement, and timing of Kay’s signs connected to Janet’s. I would like to hear Kay address the situation on the radio, but I don’t think she can.
Joan Townsend is another victim by her recent endorsement of Janet publicly and she had to know the truth!
These are very sad days and it has been a sad four years in the history of Giles County with the lack of honest leadership of Janet Parker Vanzant.
Mrs. Parker I am so sorry for you and your family and it comes from my loving Bodenham Heart. I wish Janet had the courage to with draw from the election before it gets even more difficult and embarrassing for all of us.
I would just like to say to the citizens of Giles County, that we need to be paying more attention to the County Fire and Rescue Squad and how they "earn" and spend their money, as well aswho decides what powers the "CHIEF" of the Rescue Squad gets, and who he can "boss" around. First of all, the Rescue Squad is not a county agency, they are a private not for profit organization that receives county taxpayer monies to operate on. Which means the so called "Chief" of the squad is actually nothing more thn a private citizen with no power to tell anybody outside the squad what they can or cannot do. Secondly, the rescue PAYS another private organization to go door to door soliciting more money to operate on. Shouldn't the members ask for more money from the taxpayers if they need it? Thirdly, when the squad answers a call for service out in the county, they use a billing service to bill the homeowner's or automobile owner's insurance company for their time and effort, according to a scale set by FEMA(we all know how efficient they are). Here is the problem: what happens if a municipal fire department like Minor Hill FD leaves their city limits to assist the Rescue Squad with a fire and Minor Hill gets there first, and gets the fire out or almost out before the Rescue Squad even gets out of Pulaski City limits? Do you think that Minor Hill should bill the insurance company and at least get a portion of the money to help pay for fuel/wear and tear/etc? Well, the Chief of the squad says NO! WE want all the money and if we have to share then we just won't ask Minor Hill FD for assistance! Don't you think that is the most childish thing you have ever heard? Why can't some agreement be reached so both agencies get a portion of the money. Granted, Minor Hill FD may not be greedy, but what happens if they have a breakdown or losea piece of equipment working a fire? The city government shouldn't have to pay for that, that's why they should bill if they do the work. So now, my friends, instead of working together, the Rescue Squad Chief is telling the 911 center to not even page out a municipal department outside their city limits! And he says because he sits on the 911 board that he can tell Mike Goode who to page out and who not to! Believe me, if you ask any firefighter in the county, their sole purpose in life is to get a fire truck on the scene in the shortest amount of time possible so to mitigate loss of life and/or property. All municipalities in the county have the statutory authority as well as liability coverage to go out of their city limits in a 5 mile radius to answwer fire calls. Over the last several years the Rescue Squad has had no problem in calling other agencies to help--as long as they didn't think they had to share in the insurance money. What's fair is fair! That begs the question: what happens when a house catches on fire 100 yards outside the city limits and the local fire department can be there in less than 5 minutes? Well, the way it stands right now, the homeowner is going to have to wait 15-30 minutes before the rescue squad gets there! Believe me people, 2 houses can burn down in 20 minutes! It's just a sad situation because greed and power have taken over even an all volunteer organization such as the rescue squad.
I have heard there is going to be another law suit at 911. Mr Goode may be involed. Does anyone know?
retired cop said...
As a former law enforcement officer I would like to say that Judge Damron is a very good judge. He runs his court room NOT the attonerys. I have seen defendants in the past post pone cases untill they are forgot about, and I have seen defendants that have a little more money than others go free. In Judge Damron court if the defendant is not in court on the day they are schedule to be there they will be put in jail, and their lawyer are not allowed to show up in their place. I can't say that everybody is treated equal in Judge Damrons court but it is a lot closer than I ever seen in over 20 years of being envolved with the court system. Judge Damron has limited power, his is on the bottom of the rung as judges goes. The only thing that I don't like about Judge Damron is that he would like to run everything, the clerk office, the probation office, the police officers. Judge Damron put people on probation so that they have time to pay their court fines. If the probation officers are doing their job, and the defendant probation time is running out they are brought back before the court to explain why they had not paid what they own. If they have a good reason their time is extended. A lot more fines and cost are collected now than in the past because of this practice. In closing Judge Damron is the best judge Giles County has had in many years
Friday, July 21, 2006 3:37:33 PM
Kay Gibbons is a grown woman who makes her own decisions. Like most of us, we make those decisions and hope for the best. IF she has aligned herself with Mrs. VanZant, and IF this causes her to lose votes, she made the decision.
I would like to say that all the mudslinging on this blog is embarassing at the least. Why do the citizens of this wonderful County turn this local election in to a cheaper version of Jerry Springer...come on citizens, grow up and act your age. Do your talking at the polls and not on a blog that is accessible to the universe. I am in no way opposed to free speech in any form, however I do question the vision of some of these essays and comments. I sincerely hope none of you feel any bigger as a human being by lamblasting other human beings...get a grip and remember the axiom, "If you can not say something good, then just do not say anything at all" or something to that nature. I for one hope the new commission will be mature enough and intellectual enough along with being responsible enough to realize they must work TOGETHER with the elected COUNTY EXECTIVE, be it Glen or Janet for the betterment of all citizens and the future of Giles County. In closing if the shoe fits, wear it. A U.S. service veteran who encourages everyone to vote...thanks.
Dear U.S. Service Veteran,
First, let say a big “THANKS” to you and all veterans, my father in World War II and my brother in Viet Nam, for sacrifices you made for us, the citizens, to have an opportunity to still be able to talk freely about most anything we choose.
I have been wondering if the many post on this blog is the results of four years of total pent-up frustrations knowing all the inside information they were aware of and couldn’t release their feelings and thoughts for fear of retaliation they would endure like some they witnessed suffering from our current CE, What are your thoughts on this matter? I have given it much thought and pretty much come to this conclusion.
And let add also, if the people don’t take the time to vote, it is an insult to veterans who insured and fought for your rights, please go to the polls and VOTE IN HONOR OF THEM!
JAT says:
To the anonymous regarding the Minor Hill Fire Department:
You seem to have a burr up your ****. And you seem very capable of complaints, yet you are very short on solutions. You sound like a person "in charge" in Minor Hill who dislikes working with any one else who may have authority, given by law or otherwise. You sound like a little boy (which I dare say you are) who has a personality complex.
WHY???
You are a "police officer" and a "Fire Chief" of Minor Hill. That in itself may be a conflict.
Anyway, the Chiefs of the various fire department across Giles County are trying to develop a single process and procedures by which all citizens are protected and the responding fire and rescue units get some sort of reimbursement. Why don't you expend your efforts in trying to solve problems rather than crying?
Be Part of the solution rather than being a problem. Try developing the Minor Hill First Responder unit into a world class team.
Oh Yea ... have a good day Bobby
JAT
Vicky Hastings Harwell said...
I have a reply for two who choose to hide behind anonymity:
TO: ANONYMOUS # 1
of Saturday, July 22, 2006 12:22:33 P.M.
The most important thing I have to tell you is this. I NEVER called what was being said a "comment" as you did. I called it a "LIE" and I will stand by that statement. It was, is and will forever be a LIE. Last Monday, Mrs. Vanzant, admitted to my husband and I in person that she told the story "to Lydia [Cross]but told her not to tell anybody". At first Janet said to me "that's what you said". Then she said "that's what I thought you said". It waffled around back and forth between "you said" and "I thought you said" several times during that meeting. I told Mrs. Vanzant that I did not say that and would refuse to allow her to spread the LIE. I asked her to help stop the LIE but she never said she would assist in putting the LIE to rest. The conversation is on tape should you have any doubt.
Surely you realize there are many ways to determine truth from lie, fact from fiction. I am willing to submit to a lie detector test. I challenge Mrs. Vanzant to submit to one with me. If she will do this by or before the end of this week, in time for the results to be known and publicly disseminated prior to the election, I think it would set the record entirely straight. I'll be waiting to hear from her or you.
I am convinced that you must have worn ear plugs at the bean supper. On Friday and Saturday my husband and I were called and visited by numerous concerned people who were at the bean supper and who were told this LIE.
The Yard Sale you mention was held on June the 24th. At this point does it not even make you slightly suspicious why the story was not circulated prior to the early voting week if it was said, as claimed, a month ago? Others having the Yard Sale with me were: two first grade teachers, one college professor, and two upstanding citizens from the Richland area. Extended family members of those having the yard sale were also present all morning. There are nine very credible witnesses who can and are willing to confirm that the statement was never made. There was NO time I was in my mother's yard by myself that morning. I can honestly say that I did not even see Janet Vanzant or Jody Vanzant that day. (The last time I recall seeing Mrs. Vanzant and Jody together standing outside of the property she owns on East College Street was back in the fall, with her husband, Joe Vanzant, when her son was looking up in the trees on the West side of her lot.) But, you know what, I shouldn't even waste my time telling you all this because I have already told you that the story circulating is a LIE and I am willing to defend that position. I also found it interesting that you claim Mrs. Vanzant has witnesses as she told my husband and I that it was just she and her son present when the statement she "thought" she heard was said.
By the way, I believe I know who you are and if you want to talk with me on this blog I would challenge you to sign your name or pop in to see me again to discuss politics like you did a few days ago. I will own my statements. Will you?
TO: ANONYMOUS #2
of Saturday, July 22, 2006, 8:10:06 P.M.
Just curious if you are the same as Anonymous #1?
Let me reprint your post again: "If I was Mrs. Harwell I would keep my mouth shut. She will have to run again in the next city election. What goes around comes around."
Thank you for your advice. However, you are not me. The way I deal with a LIE is to try to determine the source of the LIE, to go to the source and confront the LIE, and to try to stop the LIE.
So how I choose to deal with a LIE is a matter of personal choice. How you choose to deal with it if someone tells a LIE on you is your own business. I am woman enough to OWN MY OWN WORDS. What I say, I will admit I say. You don't know me very well or you would already know this. I refuse to allow anyone, including you or Janet Vanzant, to put words in my mouth.
As for the city election in two years, I truly appreciate your concern but I do not know if I will even want to run again. But with that said, if people want to vote for me I ask that they do it based upon my performance as city alderman, not for something any other person on city council has done and I try to take credit for. I can honestly say that I have done my very best to represent the people of Pulaski. I spend an enormous amount of time away from those I love the most, my husband, children, and grandchildren to take classes and attend meetings so that I can better serve the citizens of Pulaski. If the citizens feel that I've done a good job, they will vote for me if I do choose to run again. If they don't, they won't and life will go on. But what I can most assuredly promise you is that I will not create a LIE during the campaign or the week of early voting which I consider to be election tampering.
On a final note, I appreciate your advice regarding my mouth. Please know that my mouth will never remain "shut" anytime someone tries to put a LIE in it. I find the taste of a LIE to be particularly offensive. If you still have any doubt, call me and I will let you hear the taped conversation between Mrs. Vanzant, my husband and myself. Then you will have no remaining doubt.
Just remember. I didn't ask to get pulled into this mess. I fully know why my family and I have been and are standing in the middle of this mess. But I darn sure won't just stand in the middle of it with a smile on my face! And I refuse to lie for anyone.
Vicky Hastings Harwell said...
Mr. McPeters and interested blog readers:
I am so sorry to have to log back on immediately and take up more space to make another post. But after I published my post just now I was dismayed, well, let me just be honest, madder than Hell, to see that someone had posted a nasty remark about my parents. I ask that you allow me to respond. I ask the anonymous poster to stick with picking on me if you must pick on someone and leave my elderly mother and my dead father out of this! Are you so supportive of Janet Vanzant and so intent of her being elected at any cost that you would bring innocent people into this election???? Can't you realize that each person has just one vote and that this crap you're slinging is only going to hurt your own candidate???
To Anonymous of Monday, July 24, 2006, 7:57:11 PM
You are lower than the lowest! Lower than the lowest! Lower than dung on the bottom of the deepest ocean. Chicken droppings in the barnyard. Is that clear enough or should I draw you a picture?
First, my father has been dead since April of 2005. Any spying he would have done would be from 6 feet under in Maplewood Cemetery. Before his death, he was barely able to get from the kitchen table to the porch to get some fresh air. I can only hope you find yourself in that condition some day and then you will realize his focus each morning was to live each day and hope to see the sun the next morning - not keeping up with Janet Vanzant. He could have cared less about someone named Janet Vanzant.I can only hope someone does not disrespect the dead in your family as you have mine. I will seek to forgive you but right now all I can think about is what a despicable person you are!
My parents have NOT wanted to be drug into all this mess. They have done nothing to be in the middle of this mess with Janet Vanzant and the issue of whether or not she actually lives at 901 East College Street. Neither has the rest of our family or me. Neither have the rest of the good neighbors in the area. Now the real issue you're pussy footing around is out in the open isn't it? Isn't that what you were hinting about? Trying to discredit my parents and make it appear they are the bad guys?
My parents have owned and LIVED in their house at 911 East College Street for TWENTY ONE years. You should know that they were best friends with Kathleen Meyer (Janet Vanzant's aunt) the previous resident at 901 East College Street and we all loved her dearly. When Kathleen died, Janet Vanzant bought the property. Janet gave my mother a key to her house so that she could "watch the house" for her. Janet's mother, Jane Parker, used to call my mother all the time, especially to let her know when people would be "staying at Janet's house" so that my mother would not worry when she "saw lights on" or thought someone was vandalizing Janet's property. The thanks my mother has received from all of this kindness is to be treated ugly by the Vanzant and Parker families and now be accused of spying by you !!!
My parents had retired and lived in that neighborhood PEACEFULLY for many years UNTIL Janet Vanzant bought the property next door. After Janet qualified to run for election four years ago, my parents and my entire family began to be quizzed constantly about whether or not Janet Vanzant RESIDED or LIVED in the house located at 901 East College Street. We could not go anywhere without people approaching us to ask questions. All the other candidates and their families wanted my parents to be the ones to say whether or not she actually lived in the house since they [the candidates] knew the law required and the qualification papers stated that she must "reside" in the house prior to qualifying and continue to "reside" in the house during the term.
But this is really a question for Janet Vanzant to answer, not my parents, not my family. This is a question the public should make the election commission or District Attorney Mike Bottoms get the answer to if you have any doubt. We shouldn't continue to be harassed by people like the poster who seem to be daring someone to say Mrs. Vanzant does not live there. If you want to prove or disprove where she lives, why don't you do it and leave my parents out of the middle?
Please know that everyone in my family will tell the truth when asked direct questions and nobody, nobody, should expect anything else from us but the truth.
My parents were, and my mother still is, elderly. The LAST THING they wanted to do was end up in court testifying about anything! We have heard the rumors that Janet was being videotaped from my parents' home. Wrong - never happened. I heard several other tales of stuff caught on video. I do not know anything about it or if it is true.I know it did not happen from my parent's house.
My mother enjoys reading and sitting on her sunporch and is adjusting to life alone for the first time in 61 years. The last thing she needs is criticism from someone like you that says something like this and doesn't have the spine to sign it.
I wonder why you isolate my parents. Have you bothered to speak with the other neighbors in that area? Have you asked them who they are voting for and why? Why is it just my mother/father you have singled out? Is it just because their house is the only one next door?
And by the way, if you actually did "live next to them", you would discover that they, and now just my mother are fine neighbors. I wish Kathleen Meyer were still alive and in her house at 901 East College Street. Not only could she tell you what a close neighbor relationship she had with our family ... but she'd still be in that house and Janet would own property somewhere else in the city and people like you that didn't know what they were yapping about would be dragging other people through the mud and not my parents.
If you are brave enough to be in the game, why not sign your name? Otherwise, please slither back in your hole.
Bit dog always barks. That you Vicky.
Is it true that Glen Gorden had an afair with a student while he was a teacher at Minor Hill?
no he dated a girl from minor hill both were single
she was a student, he was a teacher
you see people going to jail for that.Under age that is.
Not to excuse it, but things were probably different back then. No, you can't do those things today.
There have been many teachers who have gone out with students.
This really has become a traditional White Trash Jerry Spring Show. If all these people would actually run for office or do something productive things would be a lot better.
Anonymous #1509890482509802948029582092749547186837
I don’t know anything about the internet, so I am getting a neighbor of mine to send this for me that also told me something bad about Glen had been said.
I am in my eighties now and have known Glen since he was a teenager selling Sun-drops at my store in Minor Hill where I still live. I have one of his signs in my yard and I am voting for him. There is not a better person in Giles County than Glen and if my late husband was still living he would be just as mad as I am. If Mrs. Vanzant thinks she will get votes in Minor Hill by telling something untruthful and bad about Glen, she is dead wrong. I’ve got nothing better to do for the next eight days but stay on the phone calling every one in Minor Hill and she won’t get any votes.
From what I already know, she doesn’t have many now. I guess she thought she needed to start a bad story to help her out but I will see to it she doesn’t.
Anonymous #1509890482509802948029582092749547186837 the sad thing is, one is running and she is glen's opponent.
To the bit dog barking anonymous. I am a regular at the Sr. Citizens Center - learned my computer skills there from Mr. Kidd, too. Janet Vanzant believes we are all voting for her. Not so. We believe, no let me change that. We know she is capable of telling that story about Mrs. Harwell and her son. We know that because she has used her son Jodie ever since we have been around her at the center. She can tear up at the drop of a hat about him. Any time she didn't want to do something or didn't do something she should, she used Jodie as the excuse. Jodie is now in his 30s by my count. Janet has used him and used him and used him. It needs to stop now. John Frost thinks we are voting for Janet but we are not! It is time for Janet to learn to tell the truth. To quit hiding behind Jodie. Vanzant has been given every opportunity to do her barking here on this website. But she wants to bark one on one so that she can fib better and not get caught writing it down. I heard a new one she has circulating among the old people in Bodenham right now about poor Jodie. Like the lady in Minor Hill I will spend day and night when I get home from the center calling people and asking them to not vote for Janet. I don't know Mr. Gordon well at all. But I wouldn't believe anything that came from Janet's mouth. If you knew her well you would not either. So I think the dog that is not barking is the one who is bit. Bit by a lie bug and old enough to know better and quit putting poor Jodie in the middle.
Sr's Citizen
If you are the nice lady I know, don't you should just let it all out, you have let her slide too many years. I know it is not in your nature to stir up trouble but Janet and her peons have done enough. At this point, I don't care if she is in jail or not. I have been waiting for that "biggie" to fall.
Janet if you have an ounce of decent bone left in your body and any love for your mother, SHUTUP and tell your peons to SHUTUP also.
You know well that person can either put you in jail or financial ruin you.
aonymous under age that is
I might be able to shed some light on your subject. I was in Glenn’s class in school and what a lot of people don’t know is, Glenn skipped a grade or two, can’t remember exactly the #.
When we graduated he was the youngest person in our class and I was the oldest. You can guess why I failed. He was real young when we did graduated and he had his teaching certificate in 1 and half years. Minor Hill was the first place he taught at and the students were like a year or two younger than him. The best I can figure he would have been underage too. Now you can put that in your pipe and smoke it a while and you might figure it out too. I’ve known Glenn all is life and he has never been in jail, he never drank or smoked but a lot of the rest of us did. One more thing I can tell you about Glenn I would give anybody my years salary if they have heard one bad word come out of his mouth about the one running against him. He just is not that kind of person. cab
Anonymous said...
Must be Jackie Stubble who worked with Claudia. Jackie the exconvict who spent time in jail in texas for stealing computer equipment from the catholic newspaper where she worked. the same one who Janet Vanzant had a resolution done for when she became some writer at Martin College. a resolution none of the commissioners knew about until Janet gave it to her friend. the same Jackie who... well ask the people at the herald, the citizen, buffalo valley the mcminnville newspaper... ask them about janets friend. hey ask her dead husband who lives in nashville.
I agree Claudia should stay in Cookeville. glad she got a way out of town. maybe jackie stubble can get her job back at the citzen. that may be what giles county people want.
Mr. McPeters,
I just found your blog and have a question. Does anybody here have anything good to say about Giles County? Just wondering.
PLEASE JANET SHUT UP PLEASE!
You and some of the other people you have working are killing you.
David Hargrove, Rooster Stanford, the Barnickle’s, Julie, Jane, Charlie, Joe and you are costing you this election and making all of us at Bodenham look bad. I just hope the public doesn’t think we at Bodenham are that low class.
Mother has sat on her front porch and watched Mr. Barnicle while cut the grass on the road, raise the mower to go over a candidate’s sign the lower it to cut Mr. Gordon’s sign down then raise it back up to go over your sign. Janet don’t you understand how that makes you look? Sometimes I just want to shake some sense into you. My God, don’t you get.
We have done all we can for you and you choose some of the lowest to help you and make all of us look bad.
To the public “I apologize.”
Sr. Citizens for Gordon said...
Everyone knows John is the class bully. Your comment is right on the money and I am with you all the way.
anonymous Thursday, July 27, 2006 1:12:27 PM i agree, if janet don't get herself out of the gutter she will be washed away.
this reminds me of the oprah trial.
About the teacher/student thing. shall we start naming names and telling stories about all the people in this twon who were teachers and dated, had affairs with or married students? I think not! Even some weel-respected MMC teachers/coaches have picked local high-schoolers to marry. please halve your double standard.
Janet
What Anonymous Thursday, July 27, 2006 1:12:27 PM is trying to tell you is for your own good, please listen.
I know the Barnickle's are trying to help but they even admitted the "lie" was told at the Bean Supper and at Bodenham. Their comment was "Janet's got herself in a pickle, hasn't she?"
dear janet,
i have to agree with the anonymous above. stop and think, every time their mouths are open, harm is done to you. it's your name not theirs that is damaged. it wouldn't hurt if you would close yours also. just trying to help!
As I have said elsewhere on this blog please don't assume that the people who have posted above speak for everyone in the Bodenham community. There are many here that know and love Janet Vanzant and we make no apologies for her. She is a wonderful person who does not deserve to have her character besmirched by the people on this blog who obviously have their own political agendas. Janet we love you and wish you well. Go Janet
Bodenham citizen
To Bodenham Citizen,
I am from the Bodenham community but I can’t stand by and let her get away with “MANY’
Lies and I know we at Bodenham are fine people, but I can’t see all of them agreeing with her misdeeds. I love Mrs. Parker and hate what Janet has chosen to do with this election. For one time she should take the high road and ponder over the last four years, and think was it worth what I did and said to influence votes. It didn’t help her believe me.
You are entitled to your opinion, of course, but I just cannot agree with you. I just want people to know that there are people who feel that Janet is a fine person who has done many good things for our community.
Bodenham citizen
bodenham,Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:42:48 PM where have you been, in the forest? you can love janet and still hate the things she has done as
#1. unable to tell the truth to anyone!
#2. using her innocent son to her advantage!
#3. telling the public while campaignin she was a single mother, when everyone knows she is married, surely "YOU" know she has been married all along. Even thru the last election!!!
#4. over using her authority!
#5. She lives in Linclon County and that is where her husband Joe will be voting!
#6. senior citizens**********this one is so bad I want mention it. we will have to wait and see if the "people" caught her!
#6.miss treating some county employees, such not paying them their comp time and hiding it in the audits!!!!
#7. telling the lie before early voting at her sons expense, I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR A MOTHER TO DO WHAT SHE DID!!!!!!!!! Get out of the forest and check all these things out and the truth will be revealed to even you!
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#6. senior citizens**********this one is so bad I want mention it. we will have to wait and see if the "people" caught her!
i made a mistake in the #6 it should be:
#6. senior citizens center********this one is so bad I won't mention it. we will have to wait and see if the "people" that caught her will tell.
dear janet,
this morning was better with your betty helping you and i am glad you are listening. the other one you had, should stay away because she is a paid employee of the county out helping you, don't look good.
good luck
JAT says:
Yo
Anonymous of July 21st
aka - Bobby White of Minor Hill
You were very "vocal" of your criticism of the county fire and rescue squad chief, Mr. Barry Whitt. Possibly you have some foundation for your remarks; and, maybe not. I would like to know.
Mr. Whitt is elected (so I have been lead to believe) by the station captains to be their Chief.
Are you not a Chief? Actually two Chiefs? But you are paid by the citizens of Minor Hill. Mr. Whitt is a volunteer (he works for all of the county, for FREE).
Yet you have neglected to state that his authority is provided by the state and county.
Can’t stand someone who does the right thing and tries to protect all of our citizens? I realize that you have a personal grudge against anyone who does not see things your way.
I just hope that the election of the Minor Hill mayor will result in one of two things.
1. a change in your attitude of those who are true heroes (and not just out there to prove to themselves that they are cool because they have a badge and gun).
2. a change in the police and fire chief positions in Minor Hill to somebody who is a team player and not someone who is interested in himself.
Get real!!!!!! Get with the program!!!!!! Become a team player.
You are a small fish is a very small pond. A new mayor may see things differently and you will become even smaller ……. Non-existant
JAT
“Vote The Ticket” seemed very, very suspicious to me, so, I did some investigating and this what I found. Apparently, “Vote The Ticket” was only distributed at Intermet in the cover of darkness and only placed on the third shift employees cars with the exception of one and it was placed on the notice board. I also found that one of the names on the ticket is employed at Intermet. Very suspicious!
Could this possibly be another one of Vanzant’s attempts to sway votes her way and “try to influence the voters to elect only who she wants in office?” Very suspicious!
The people I spoke with said, “The entire plant was voting for Mr. Gordon with the exception of three employees.” Very suspicious!
So, Kendrick, maybe your friends didn’t let you down as you thought and until I have other factual information this is the way it seems. Very, very suspicious!
Maybe you could do some investigating too.
Anonymous Thursday, July 27, 2006 1:11:55 PM
You left out a name that is going around town bad mouthing Mr. Gordon and that is Jimmy Mooney. He is still mad because Mr. Gordon wouldn’t give him a job at Intermet and according to him, Janet and her camp are planning another rumor to be spread.
This information was given to Butch White and they are ready and waiting for her if she attempts anything like she did to effect early voting. One difference in theirs and hers, theirs is the truth and have all the ammunition to prove it. She won’t be happy!
Friday, July 28, 2006 7:32:14 PM
Oh why don't you guys get a life. You are the ones spreading unfounded rumors about a very nice lady. It is so transparent who you are and why you are doing this. You should all be ashamed of yourselves!
Friday, July 28, 2006 10:41:48 PM Anonymous,You should spend a little time of your life to seek the truth not just what you want to hear.
Dear one who wrote the letter,
Thank you for posting your side of the “lie” and especially contacting Mrs. Harwell. This is not just about the election, it is so much more and if you did nothing, this lie would soon be perceived as the truth to many more people and some still choose to believe it to be true. It is good to know there are independent thinking seniors that are willing to stick their necks out to finally let more of the public know the real personality of Mrs. Vanzant, our county executive. I know and understand where they are coming from since I live in the Bodenham area also and it was very difficult for me to finally admit the flaw in Mrs. Vanzant’s character. I just didn’t want to accept the fact because I love and respect Mrs. Parker so much.
I find it very interesting the rumor was planted in Kay Gibbon’s office, The Register of Deeds. Now, I don’t know if Mrs. Vanzant planted it because she knew Kay would spread it or simply believe it. Either way it has damaged Kay’s reputation and she should at least make an attempt to address the issue.
It is also interesting to know Mrs. Vanzant has again started another lie to cover up the last one she told. The new lie she is spreading at Bodenham now is “Jodie can not go out in the yard to play without Mrs. Hastings’s and some of her family blowing their horn and turning their lights on and off and he gets so scared he runs in the house. The big surprise is how she told that is the reason she can’t live in town and lives in the country in Lincoln county.
These lies were used for her personal gain in an election and I absolutely have discuss and no respect for any mother that would stoop so low!
Will you be willing to come forward and reveal your identity if there is a trial?
Friday, July 28, 2006 10:41:48 PM Anonymous,
She may very well be a nice lady to you, but put the blame squarely on her and her workers shoulders. What you are seeing now is a backlash of her own doing. Please reserve all your shaming for the ones that are responsible.
There are people here who always want names but are never willing to sign their own. Thats a double standard.
WRONG ANONYMOUS! Some people cannot put their names here for a variety of reasons. Most wish they could. You will surely make hay out of that statement, but....fire away!
Anonymous, Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:42:48 PM
“there are people who feel that Janet is a fine person who has done many good things for our community.”
Do you think one who lies is a fine person and would you name some of the good things you think Janet has done for the community?
Are those who made a conscious effort to destroy Janet fine people?
Anonymous,
Are those who made a conscious effort to destroy Janet fine people?
Saturday, August 05, 2006 10:13:33 AM
Janet’s actions destroyed her. Why do you think she won’t log on this blog and defend herself? She knows she can’t!!
Were I janet, I wouldn't subject myself to the hate-mongers on here either. You say she destroyed herself? Well.....uhh....wasn't she re-elected? hmmmmm?
I'll bet you also think Jeb Bush stole the election in Florida.....hahahahahaha
I just don't admire people that lie and use her own innocent son for her advantage and if you do, you are no better person than she is.
No better than she? Well, what is my sentence judge?
You will meet that judgement the day you stand before your God!
Don't forget so will you!
Maybe we can stand together and then the truth will be come to light and then you can make no more excuses for Janet and her lies? I will wait for that day and smile when the facts of truth are bestowed upon you!!! What will be your statement then???
Get over it. Mr. Gordon lost and Janet won!
And the county lost, but we'll have to make the best of it, because its the democratic way.
Now that was a very intelligent post by you! But I don’t know why I expected anything else.
I am getting somewhat sick and tired of certain material popping up over and over again on this blog, and am therefore setting a new policy: (drum roll)
Any posting that uses the words "anal buffoon" will be immediately deleted. Enough is enough, already... the election is a week past, and it's time to simply let go of that ever so fascinating phrase, "anal buffoon."
Secondly, I am sick and tired of pro-zoners invoking the "threat" of a garbage dump to justify zoning. Hell-oooo? Anyone ever hear of the Jackson Law? Anyone? Well it gives the County Commission the power to veto garbage dumps, and it's already been adopted in Giles County. So anyone else who mentions garbage dumps, will find their posting deleted. I've been over this many times, and it simply borders on dishonesty for the pro-zoners to keep flogging the very dead horse of garbage dumps. Okay? So, stop doing it... or else!
So it starts. The unedited blog now has two (2) topics that are to be stricken by the edito...oops I mean blog master. The noble intent was there in the beginning I'm sure, but it was, undoubtedly, inevitable that the free speech you offered, Mr. McPeters, would have to come under some control. There will be more, of that I am certain.
Anonymous,
Look on the bright side. EVen with the two topics made taboo, I'm still offering a better deal on free speech than the US Supreme Court. (Not to mention my local "competition" - the Lake media empire.)
As far as "there will be more" -- that's a possibility, but a dim one. It took many, many postings of the "AB" for me to finally ban the phrase, and I've been very, very patient with the pro-zoners flogging their "GD" dead horse. It is difficult for me to imagine anything else coming up on the blog that I find so irritating. It's posssible, true, but unlikely.
Needa Glasses says:
Anon Chapter 6 verse 24, (Aug 10th version) I couldn't agree with you more. The blog master doesn't like a phrase so its gone. His perogative, his blog, cie la vie. My favorite part of the blog is at the tippy-top.
"This blog is a blatant copy cat of the now defunct Giles Two Cents Worth. The rules are the same: no slander, no libel, no name calling, no flaming, no racial or derogatory remarks."
I'm so glad no flaming was allowed during the election, or this blog could have gotten out of hand:) Thank heavens there were no derogatory remarks, with descriptions like:
"cheat, snake, LIAR!! idiot, stupid, liar, dishonest,dirty liar,jerk" and on and on ad-nauseum.
Maybe these weren't derogatory remarks, perhaps they are what is described as name calling. Either way it is considered flaming. But then that is not allowed either, right Kendrick? The only thing I didn't see was racial remarks. Perhaps I didn't read everything --or maybe, just maybe, the county has a small amount of dignity left.
I believe, this was to be one individual's opportunity to make a stand on his topic of choice, i.e. anti-zoning. Kendrick, those who do not share your view on this are genuinely concerned about a dump or cell tower or quarry or whatever. As I'm sure you are.
You both seek the same thing, protection from something unwanted. The manner in which you both receive protection from the undesirable element is causing the rift. You want open dialogue, but because you tire of their argument on your blog, you now say their dialogue is no longer welcome. Again, your blog-your option.
Understand, I am not criticizing your efforts at letting people speak and vent (up to this point). Its been a long time in coming for the people and the anger which has been expressed came about because people had no opportunity to vent anywhere else without fear of reprisal from a boss or customers or neighbors or their fellow church members.
Some governmental leaders say "the public will be allowed to speak" but we all know the vote was decided before the agenda was typed. Other groups don't even allow the public to speak at all. Thanks to Penny Thoughts and GFSZ people had the opportunity to express their frustrations.
I wonder did anyone really change their vote because of what they read here? I didn't. The way a person treated you in the past might be totally different from the way in which I was treated by them. If I didn't know them, I called them, and I asked them questions. I don't care where they went to school, who they grew up with, who supports them, what sex they are, who their spouse is or who their "daddy" is. I vote because I have a similar stance on a majority of the issues as the candidate.
If I have misspelled anwhere, forgive me. Which brings me to the "spelling" issue. Its true some words on the blog have been mispelled. Does anyone remember a a well known man who had difficulty with the word potato? Think White House. You know to whom I refer. Yes, there may be the occassional improperly spelled word. But in many instances what you see are merely typos. The author knows how to spell the word but, not intentionally, transposes letters on the keyboard. i.e. punk flamgino. U is next to I on the k-brd. And please don't harp on grammatical errors such as they're, there, their. Errors will occur. Remember "Dewey Wins"!! I'm not that old to remember it, but it is a classic faux pas.
Whether typo, improper spelling, or simply wrong, the author's opinion shouldn't be belittled nor their education questioned.
Again, truly no disrespect Kendrick. I haven't commented on your blog previously, instead waiting for the furor surrounding the election to level off.
Sincerely,
Needa Glasses
Needa Glasses,
Regarding derogatory remarks, I believe that I've received more than my share of them, none of which I've deleted. I am not thin skinned, and it is my desire to "moderate" this blog with the lightest touch possible. Not only that, but I don't have the time to go and edit out all of nasty remarks. I encourage people who are attacked to do as I do-- respond and defend themselves.
Now, you state that I am censoring an argument by banning discussion of garbage dumps. That is not the case. Anyone who brings up garbage dumps, in the context of a discusson on zoning, is simply polluting the discussion with an off-topic lie. The implication is that, without zoning, we are vulnerable to dumps locating here. Thanks to the adoption of the Jackson Law (which Roger Reedy oppposed, please note!) this is not the case any longer. Don't you see what a non-sequiter it is to bring up garbage dumps, over and over and over again, when there is absolutely no way for a dump to be located here without the permission of the County Commission?
Needa Glasses, I am suffering from the early stages of glaucoma, and I am always aware, as I answer a stupid "garbage" comment for the umpteenth time, that someday, much sooner than I like, I will be blind, and that answering stoo-pid redundant comments is a very poor way of utilizing the sight which I have left. There are many books I'd like to read, movies I'd like to see, and places I'd like to visit... but instead, anononymous jerks keep repeating the same stoo-pid NON-ARGUMENTS about garbage which I have rebutted many times earlier. This is very frustrating, to say the least. And I don't think many of my critics would have the patience to just keep answering the same stoo-pid NON-ARGUMENT over and over and over again, as I have. You reach the point where, enough is enough, and look for a solution to the problem.
My solution, originally, was to delete the entire post if it mentioned dumps. But this met with such cries of horror, that I've decided to surgically remove the words "garbage dump" and replace them with [TCA 68-211-701 JACKSON LAW]. This directs the reader to the truth, and saves me the time and trouble of writing a rebuttal.
Is that enough free speech for you?
Mr. McPeters,
I reiterate, for the 3rd time, my intention was not to disrespect you. Please do not become defensive. My point was You posted on Aug 10 "I am getting somewhat sick and tired of certain material popping up over and over again on this blog, and am therefore setting a new policy: (drum roll).." The AB phrase and D word were defined in the new policies. If the old policies weren't enforced (no name calling, flaming, derogatory remarks etc)--why would one believe the new policies would be enforced?
You created the blog ergo you have the authority and right to either leave the rules in place, just don't enforce them, pretend the rules aren't there and maybe nobody will notice, call it a "no-rules" blog, or selectively enforce which of your rules you wish to make others follow. You have the ball and you can let everyone play kickball or basketball or whatever you want to call the game. Make your rules, then either select who can play or let everyone play. Make rules and enforce unilaterally, or don't bother having rules
The decision to stop some posters from putting their viewpoints on when they clash with yours re: TCA 68-211-701 JACKSON LAW was because you grew tired of the opposing side using the "D" word as an argument. It could be aargued some of your readers grew tired of the name calling directed toward a few candidates. Which escalated to where numerous candidates were attacked, and then eventually family members. However you never chose to enforce the blog rules there or even make up new ones.
I was unaware of your sight situation, and all I can say is I'm sorry and empathize as I have known others with this condition.
Needa Glasses.
To Mr. Mcpeters
If you do have glaucoma I sympathize with you but you knew you had this condition before you started the blog and if this blog has become a burden to you because of your condition then end it but please don't use your disability as an excuse to justify censorship of what does not appeal to you. You stated that this is a 'free speech' blog then so be it. You have had no problem with the many blogs that have accused others of horrible things such as liars, thieves, lesbians, bad parents etc. so it seems that your deletions only show your biased views. Also you use you glaucoma as an excuse for these 'new rules' because it wastes time away from what vision you have left, but from your many numberous writtings on this blog that hasn't seemed to phase you one bit so please don't use that as an excuse. If you truly believe and want this to be a 'free speech' site then let it, but don't sensor it according to 'your views' if you continue to do that then don't stand on your soap box and call it free speech and definatly don't stand behind your disability because that just offends everyone else with one. If you really want to do something and believe in it your disability shouldn't stop you. Agian I'm sorry you have glaucoma and again if running this site is taxing to you because of it then stop don't make excuses for biased censorship.
Needa Glasses,
... because you grew tired of the opposing side using the "D" word as an argument.
You're missing the point. THe "other side" wasn't making an argument; they were simply invoking a boogieman. THey know good and well that this particular boogieman can't "get" anyone, thanks to the Jackson Law, but they continue to invoke it. That is dishonesty to the Nth degree, and I'm simply tired of banging my head against the wall trying to answer these "GD" idiots.
At any rate, I have softened up my "new" policy considerably. See the new topic at the top of the blog, headlined "Attention!"
Anonymous,
I find it enjoyable to engage in debate with people who are actually TRYING to debate, as opposed to those who merely invoke boogiemen. It is, in my view, a good use of whatever time my eyes have left.
Incidentally, I see no reason why you should question whatever claims I make aboput my health. I have never lied to you, and it is somewhat offensive to me for you to use phraseology such as "If you do have glaucoma..." The pressure in both of my eyeballs is about twice the maximum healthy level, and, while the drops I take to lower the pressure may help, the smart money would be to bet on my going blind, sometime within the next decade or two.
Finally, I wish to stress that I am not engaged in "biased censorship." As you will see, if you read my latest blog posting ("Attention!") my "censorship" is actually very unbiased and impartial. But, if you people simply must whine about losing the use of TWO worn out phrsaes, I supppose I could change the name of the blog to the "Giles 99.999999% Free Speech Zone."
Would that make you happy?
pretty soon it will be 99.888% then 98% then 90% etc. see the trend you have started. Historically when tyrants began burning books they only started with one or two then it turned into everthing except what they approved. I'm sure the 7 people you have cosen to read what you will delete are close to you and 99.9999% argee with your views----that's not unbiased. Note I too am sorry you have been stricken with glaucoma but that's still no excuse for censoring a "free speech" blog.
Anonymous said,
pretty soon it will be 99.888% then 98% then 90% etc. see the trend you have started.
Oh, come now. Don't be giving me a "slippery slope" argument. I've got my policy written down for all to see, and you should deal with the policy as written, and not worry about how it "might" get more and more restrictive over time. Get real, okay? I'm about the most uncompromising defender of free speech you'll ever encounter. I've taken attack after attack after attack on this blog, and I've never deleted any of these comments directed against me.
So, if you can't trust ME to avoid the slippery slopes, then you basically don't have any faith in human kind. And as for my "appeals board," yes, I'll admit they are my friends-- but would you really expect me to appoint my enemies? Rest assured, they share my uncompromising committment to freedom of speech, and can be trusted to reign me in, should I (for some unfathomable reason) go dictatotial on the blog.
Finally, I'm not using my glaucoma as an excuse for anything. I'm simply explaining that, from my perspective, time wasted answering the same "boogieman" claim over and over is time being seriously wasted. And, no, I'm not censoring a free speech blog --- you are still just as free to speak as you ever were, just so long as you avoid two subjects that are "off topic" for the sake of our discussions here. Talk about tyrants burning books and slippery slopes is seriously overblown, premature, and unjustified.
And look, even if you were right, 90% freedom of speech is nothing to sneeze at, and a lot more freedom than that offered by my "competition" -- the Lake media empire. So, I'll stop short of calling you a "whiner," but will say that if you keep complaining when the electrons haven't even cooled on the new policy, that you'll be coming perilously close to being a whiner.
Mr, Peters
your a fascist oran idiot. you know that freedom of speech is absolute and that you either have it or you dion't. and this blog doresn't have it anymore so I'm leaving. and I'm not a whiner I;'m just disgusted, mkay?
While I have everyone mad at me, I might as well make one more change to tidy up the blog...
Ever since the beginning of this endeavor, I've been hearing all kinds of whining about the so-called dust problem caused by the new rock quarries. I have never denied that this is the case (for I have no direct information one way or another) but I have repeatedly asked, what about the old quarry by the airport? Does it fill the air with dust? And why are property values so high near the Rogers Group quarry?
Now, I'm not going to BAN the future discussion of "road dust" caused by the new quarries... BUT, anytime someone brings that subject up, without answering my oft repeated questions regarding the old quarry... I will edit their posting to reflect the fact that my questions have been ducked.
I'm sure this will not tread too heavily on anyone's freedom of speech, especially with my Board of Blog Appeals on the job to protect the lay reader from my dictatorial excesses.
Mr. McPeters
I recall someone in your group (perhaps you) making the argument that homes located near rock quarries do not lose value. Then your hero, Mr. Barrett, stated that he would buy a house on quarry road if he could get it cheap enough...the implication being that the price would be reduced at a time when real estate is selling very high. Then he stated that he knew of nobody who would disagree that property located near a quarry would lose value. Which is the gospel, according to you?
Anonymous,
There isn't, and never was, any "censor board." The whole thing was a practical joke that I played on the pro-zoners. I assumed they'd squawk if I took away even the smallest scintilla of their "free speech" rights, and sure enough, they did. The weren't even comforted by an "appeals board" made up entirely of my anti-zoning "cronies." Instead, they talked about slippery slopes and tyranny, and threatened to leave the blog. All of this becaues two or three phrases (out of billions) were "zoned" away from them.
I ended this illustration of the absurdity of zoning late last night. I figured it had run its course, and that I needed to stop before I chased away half the posters from this blog. You can read more about this matter by going to the top of the main page, and perusing the topic "GOTCHA!!! A Lesson for the LUMPsters."
So....Mr. McP.....which is the gospel, according to you????
You are so stupid. How can you tell the difference between pro zoners and ani zoners when they were complaining?
Anonymous, the answer to your question is simple. The anti-zoners are the ones complaining and whining. The pro-zoners, as they are called, are merely standing up for what they believe in. Isn't that the democratic way?
Hey dumb--- I was the one who brough up your slippery slope and tyranny and amazingly am neither a whiner or a pro zoner. Your cop out excuse you made up to cover up your own ignorance might be bought by your ant-zoning cronies but I believe you have already lost many who did read this because it is a poor example of freedom of speech. your grand experiment did prove one thing you think way to much of yourself, perhaps you are a meglamaniac, but you are definatly dillusional.
Guess some folks jus can't take a joke. Bet thay have trouble looking in tha miror when they get up ever morning.
Yes Jo Anne, this is a wonderful forum, especially if your views are in line with his!
Anonymous said:
...this is a wonderful forum, especially if your views are in line with his!
What, pray tell, do I do to posters who have views contrary to mine? Do I delete their postings? No. Do I censor out their arguments? No. I simply rebut them. Is this now a crime? What would you do, if you were in my shoes? Keep quiet, as lies about zoning and (on occassion) myself are told? Surely you would not.
I have been as fair and evenhanded as is possible, given that I do have my own biases. But I allow anything to be posted here-- even lies about myself. And, as I've always said, if you don't like the job I'm doing, feel free to start your own blog!
Anonymous said:
So....Mr. McP.....which is the gospel, according to you????
To be honest with you, I don't have enough data to know how a rock quarry affects property values. It seems intuitively obvious that it would, but the land out near the old Rogers Group quarry is far from cheap. Not only that, but I've never heard any complaints of road dust and cracked foundations caused by the old "airport" quarry. This suggests two possibilities: (1) the new quarries aren't operating at the same high standards as the old one, or (2) the people who live near the new quarry are whiners. I don't know which of these is the case, but I suspect it's (1).
Anonymous said:
You are so stupid. How can you tell the difference between pro zoners and ani zoners when they were complaining?
That's a fair question. The answer is, I only stepped on the freedom of speech of the pro-zoners. Who else would still be harassing WAB over the phrase "anal buffoon?" Who else would want to argue about "garbage dumps?" And who else wouuld be interested in discussing "rock quarry dust?"
By taking away arguments from the pro-zoners, and the pro-zoners ONLY, I pretty much guaranteed that only pro-zoners would whine in protest. See? It's really quite simple.
Anonymous said:
Hey dumb--- I was the one who brough up your slippery slope and tyranny and amazingly am neither a whiner or a pro zoner.
Well, I really would like to thank you for your posting. I agreed with every word you said, but it was in the nature of the experiment that I would have to try and rebut it. I really appreciated that your posting provided me the opportunity to regurgitate some of the pro-zoner's most beloved arguments, such as "judge the rules as they are now, not as they MIGHT be after some slipping on a slope in the distant future." I tell you, I loved that posting! It was a real challenge to provide a semi-rational rebuttal, because your argument was right on target.
Your cop out excuse you made up to cover up your own ignorance might be bought by your ant-zoning cronies...
Let's get this straight.... you really think I was serious about this? Even the way over the top absurdity of creating a "Board of Blog Appeals" that was made up entirely of my anti-zoning cronies? C'mon, dude... It was just a JOKE! I wasn't covering up anything... I simply was illustrating absurdity by being absurd. I'm really sorry you can't see this, because, based on your earlier posting, you seem to be quite intelligent.
...but I believe you have already lost many who did read this because it is a poor example of freedom of speech.
Perhaps. I certainly ended the experiment "early" because I was afraid I'd drive people away. (I also didn't think I could up the ante in terms of ridiculousness-- I briefly considered changing the rules a fourth time to allow anti-zoners free usage of the taboo words, on the grounds that they used them "responsibly," but I just couldn't make myself do it.)
...your grand experiment did prove one thing you think way to much of yourself, perhaps you are a meglamaniac, but you are definatly dillusional.
I'm glad to see you are so gifted at psychological diagnosis via the internet. Look, you don't have to feel bad about yourself. I set up a pretty good joke, and you fell for it. There's no shame there-- had the tables been turned, I'd have probably bought it too. But now you're mad at me making you feel silly, and you whoop up a diagnosis that I am a "delusional megalomaniac" simply because I used a practical joke to try teaching a lesson to my pro-zoning critics.
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion... but, in this case, you are simply dead wrong.
Anonymous said:
Anonymous, the answer to your question is simple. The anti-zoners are the ones complaining and whining. The pro-zoners, as they are called, are merely standing up for what they believe in. Isn't that the democratic way?
The democratic way, as anyone with half a brain knows, is for the 80% majority to rule. Not the 20% minority that overwhelmingly lost the election.
If there actually is an 80% majority who are anti, then I suspect at least 75% were influenced by scare tactics and just plain old misrepresentations. Would you agree that an uninformed electorate cannot make good voting decisions? Of course you would, because that is at the heart of the anti-zoner campaign.
By the way, where did you get that 80% statistic?
Anonymous says....
As members of the Giles County Fire and Rescue who usually do not see eye to eye with our Chief, we still respect and support him as he encounters daily many difficult tasks and decision demanding obstacles in his position. The Rescue Squad is a non-profit organization that does receive tax payer dollars, but for the past couple of years we have been dangerously close to not having the funds to provide our services to the areas of our county not served by a local city Fire Department. It is our decision as squad members to VOLUNTEER our services, our own gas in our personal vehicles, our own time to receive the training required to provide these VOLUNTEER services for the Giles County Citizens. We, as members, are responsible for electing our Chief, just as the Chief before him and any Chief to follow. Funds that are received by the "private organization" who goes around asking for donations is utilized for our training, and new equipment. The "billing" has only recently began to compensate the rise in our cost to operate all (8) eight stations, and insurance including upkeep on 32 vehicles and with the rise in fuel costs alone justifying our need to utilize resources available other than our county awarded yearly operating budget. Our Chief (just another VOLUNTEER) and Giles County Fire and Rescue as a whole unit have certainly not given anyone in the county any reason to suspect a lack of willingness to collaborate with city fire departments. Our goals as VOLUNTEER firefighters and rescue squad members are the exact same as those of paid city firefighters...we strive to save lives and protect property! In this world of civil lawsuits, we hope that petty "B.S." such as this will not prohibit any city fire department to stop and wonder about who gets the insurance money before responding to a call 100 yards outside of the city limits.
Signed...HUSTLE, LOYALTY & RESPECT
I am a member of the Giles County Fire and Rescue. I take great exception at the bashing of the rescue squad that was done earlier in this blog. We as a whole have worked vey hard to get the squad to the status that it is. We have worked hard to get some new trucks as well as replace some of our ancient trucks with newer ones. Some of the stations even went as far as to borrow money from the bank and its members sign the note just so that we could have a safe, reliable vehicle to respond to a call. We do not get paid for what we do, which is leave our family at home, in bed, late at night or when ever we are needed. As far as the rescue squad billing for their service, we have never, ever billed an individual or property owner for our service, yes a bill, if you want to call it that is sent to the property owners insurance company. However if they pay they pay, and if they dont they dont. Just for your knowledge you would be surprised how many people in giles county have no insurance. Maybe Minorhill or (ELKTON) should do just as our great city of Pulaski Fire Department does, Offer contracts for those within 5 miles of the city limits for a fee of 50 dollars. Promising that a fire truck with 2 PAID firemen will be sent. The only drawback to this system is however that the rescue squad will be paged out first, while someone looks up to see if you have a city fire contract. Now i would like to get to the real reason that I am responding to this blog. I recently found out that {a} city fire department ran an add in a not very read paper, or at least i had never read it for 3 weeks stating that they were going to start responding to certain types of calls 5 miles out of their city limits and charge for these services. My question to them is what happens if they respond to my house which is 5 miles from their city limits, as well as 5 miles from pulaski city limits, as well i am roughly 5 miles from the frankewing, Pulaski, and anthony hill Stations, and a home catches on fire or they have a wreck in their city. Can you see the common sense in my question ? We as a whole NEED to be working together, and if you actually read and studied the required fema study courses for ics you would understand that.
On the topic of the rescue squad not being a county agency, that is true, however ALL of our bills go before the executve committee which is all 8 captains, as well as through our board of directors, before they are presented to the court house to be paid. If there was any questions on our spending I am sure it would be brought to someones attention. One last question. My gear is over 12 years old how old is yours????
PEOPLE WHO ARE SPEAKING WITH ANY NEGATIVITY TO THE RESCUE SQUAD- LAY OFF, IT COULD BE YOUR A__ THEY HAVE TO CUT OUT OF A WRECK!!!!!!!
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