Think Voting Machines Can't Be "Fixed"?
This is reposted from the Washington Times Newspaper
Chicago-area voting machine casts Republican candidate’s vote for Democratic foe
A Republican candidate for the Illinois state legislature was shocked to learn
Monday that the vote he cast for himself at a Chicago-area library was erroneously cast for his Democratic opponent.
Monday that the vote he cast for himself at a Chicago-area library was erroneously cast for his Democratic opponent.
“While early voting at the Schaumburg Public Library today, I tried to cast a vote for myself and instead it cast the vote for my opponent,” Jim Moynihan said “You could imagine my surprise as the same thing happened with a number of races when I tried to vote for a Republican and the machine registered a vote for a Democrat.”
Mr. Moynihan is challenging Democratic incumbent state Rep. Michelle Mussman in the 56th District House race. He said he also tried to vote for fellow Republican Larry Kaifesh in the 8th Congressional District race, but the vote was again cast for the Democratic opponent, U.S. Rep. Tammy Duckworth, The Daily Herald reported.
Mr. Moynihan said he brought the error to the attention of a judge, who determined the machine hadn’t been calibrated correctly.
Jim Scalzitti, deputy communications director for the Cook County clerk’s office, said the machine in question was removed from service to be re-calibrated immediately and that there were no other reports of voters having similar problems.
posted by Allen Barrett | 9:05 AM
146 Comments:
Chicagoland politics. If you can vote early and vote often, rig the machines.
Mr. Barrett
Are you still trying to blame the local election commission for your own failures? I'm just asking.
Yea right 8:07 Barrett has so much power he can control the Washington Times now. Maybe he'll be the next attorney general. I read were there are a lot of counties in Alabama that had more people voting than they had total residents.. Voter fraud is real buddy.
Let's see ... something illegal happened in Illinois. Therefore, the same thing is happening in Pulaski. There must be some sort of cosmic connection between the two cities. Hey, I heard something illegal happened in some other places, too. Are they, also, happening here?
Sounds like when Barrett posted all he did about the early vote totals being leaked. Then we learn they were not and the matter was dropped. Much ado about nothing.
I don't think the election office proved anything when the chairman of the election commission was also over the surveillance. Where is the checks and balances? I think there are too many conflicts in the election commission.
2:29 When did we learn that early vote totals were not leaked? I know there was a complaint filed (I assume with the state election commission) but haven't heard that it had been dropped. Anybody know who filed the complaint? When was the complaint dropped?
It's the same old attack on the election commission, isn't it? It just never lets up.
I don't know Allen Barrett or know if what he post is true or not. No one will post a different side about what Barrett post. But they sure do act like little children and attack Barrett. Makes a person wonder what kind of people lives in Giles county. Will they grow up?
When I read this thread, I thought that is in Chicago and I'm not surprise at anything they do there.
Doesn't mean it could or does happen in Giles county. To bad people can't understand in some big towns, voter fraud does go on. Here most people know the ones coming in to vote. So not likely to happen. Most people know if a dead person is trying to vote. Big towns no one knows who's dead or alive.
People stop and think "am I acting as bad as I accuse Barrett of doing?" We are watched and judged in other counties. it may not bother you what other people think of Giles county buit does me.
I don't know Allen Barrett or know if what he post is true or not. No one will post a different side about what Barrett post. But they sure do act like little children and attack Barrett. Makes a person wonder what kind of people lives in Giles county. Will they grow up?
When I read this thread, I thought that is in Chicago and I'm not surprise at anything they do there.
Doesn't mean it could or does happen in Giles county. To bad people can't understand in some big towns, voter fraud does go on. Here most people know the ones coming in to vote. So not likely to happen. Most people know if a dead person is trying to vote. Big towns no one knows who's dead or alive.
People stop and think "am I acting as bad as I accuse Barrett of doing?" We are watched and judged in other counties. it may not bother you what other people think of Giles county buit does me.
UPDATE: Polk County woman indicted on 6 counts of voter fraud
Posted: Oct 21, 2014 10:48 AM CDT
Updated: Oct 21, 2014 12:37 PM CDT
A months-long investigation into alleged voter fraud in the August general election in Polk County, Tennessee has resulted in a six count indictment against Jo Ann Cronan.
In a news release issued by Stephen D. Crump, District Attorney General, the state alleges that Cronan paid individuals for their vote, bribing those individuals for their vote in violation of state law, according to a news release from District Attorney General's office.
Agents from the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, along with Investigator Rockholt served the arrest warrant from the Criminal Court of Polk County to Cronan. She was then was placed in custody and transported to the Polk County Justice Center.
“For too long, this sort of criminal activity has been accepted as part of life in Polk County,” said District Attorney General Crump. “It will no longer be tolerated. Every election cycle this office will be proactive and aggressive in prosecuting those who seek to influence the outcome of elections by illegal means. This is just the first prosecution to come from the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation's current investigation. Further evidence will be presented to the grand jury in Polk County.”
Still underway is another TBI investigation into illegal activities related to the August general election in Monroe County.
“I anticipate that evidence will be presented to the Monroe County Grand Jury in the very near future as well,” said Crump. “I want to thank the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation as well as Calvin Rockholt for their hard work on this case. A person who would buy a vote is not serving the interests of a political party. They have a dangerous desire for power and control and ultimately, only serve their own selfish interests. Those who would try to buy an election should take note and recognize that we will be watching and waiting.”
Just because you don't know about something doesn't mean it don't exist.
I remember in Giles County the men running for election would give whiskey to get people to vote for them. I said men because I don't think women ran way back then.
If you want to pay me to vote for you I will take your money and go vote for who ever I want too. Bet that's what they did then.
Ray Lanier called and attempted to file a complaint with the state election commission! The state took no action because there was no proof provided! I am sure he did this under Barrett's direction!
2:39 How do you know Ray Lanier did this?
I think the one posted on the blog that the Richardson was ahead in the early votes should be in trouble.
I don't know why people like to get lies started.
I called the state election commission and the volunteered that information
Well I guess Racily and a bunch of other Barrett haters will eat crow over this. Rackley spread it al over town that Barrett was the one who made the complaint. Wonder if he will ever admit he was wrong.
I think they are laughing all over town because whoever made a complaint had no idea what they were talking about.
I think if they really want to know about the complaint they should check into who posted it was told in the first place.
It was told or someone wanted to start trouble and I think that person should be found out.
Maybe they are still investigating it. Look how long it's taking to investigate 911.
You people are so stupid the whole damn thing was made public by Rackley and Bassham in a election meeting.
You people are so eager to jump on Barrett you all end up looking stupid.
this From The Patriot
If you thought that Obama’s 2008 election just didn’t seem right, it turns out you were on to something. At the end of last month, two Democratic officials from Indiana were arrested and convicted of ballot fraud. It appears that Obama truly wasn’t eligible to be on the ballot.
Chairman Butch Morgan Jr. from St. Joseph County was convicted of felony conspiracy to commit petition fraud and forgery. Dustin Blyth, who served on the Board of Elections, was charged with felony forgery and several counts of making a false petition. Both men were charged and convicted for submitting fake names and signatures on petitions that were designed to get Obama and Hillary Clinton onto the 2008 primary ballots. Morgan seems to have been the driver of the actions.
County Sheriffs have uncovered that many locals of St. Joseph county appeared on the petitions, although they have sworn they never signed them.
Unfortunately, the case wasn’t brought to the court until 2011, when Lucas Burkett of the Board of Registration decided that he felt too guilty to continue carrying the secret. Authorities determined that had the criminal action not taken place, Obama probably wouldn’t have appeared on the ballot in St. Joseph County.
What do you think should be done about the fraud?
Voting machines that switch Republican votes to Democrats are being reported in Maryland.
“When I first selected my candidate on the electronic machine, it would not put the ‘x’ on the candidate I chose -- a Republican -- but it would put the ‘x’ on the Democrat candidate above it,” reported Donna Hamilton.
“This happened multiple times with multiple selections. Every time my choice flipped from Republican to Democrat. Sometimes it required four or five tries to get the ‘x’ to stay on my real selection,” the Frederick, Md., resident said Thursday.
Queen Anne County Sheriff Gary Hofmann said he encountered the problem, too.
"This is happening here as well. It occurred on two candidates on my machine. I am glad I checked. Many voters have reported this here as well," Hofmann wrote in an email Sunday evening.
Two other Maryland voters reported the same in Anne Arundel County on Friday.
A similar vote-switch turned up in Chicago earlier in the week.
Republican state representative candidate Jim Moynihan went to the Schaumburg Public Library on Monday to vote for himself. “Instead, it cast the vote for my opponent,” Moynihan told Watchdog.org.
“You could imagine my surprise as the same thing happened with a number of races when I tried to vote for a Republican and the machine registered a vote for a Democrat,” Moynihan said.
He notified the election judge at his polling place and demonstrated that it continued to cast a vote for the opposing candidate’s party. Moynihan was eventually allowed to vote for Republican candidates, including his own race.
Back in Maryland, two voters in Anne Arundel County experienced the same problem: A Diebold touchscreen voting machine switched their Republican votes to Democrats. The voters had to cancel theirs votes and start over.
Joe Torre, election director in Anne Arundel, called it a “calibration issue” involving a single machine.
Hamilton said she notified officials of the problem she encountered at the Frederick County Center, where she voted. “I’m not sure what was done about it. If someone is not paying close attention, they could end up voting for the wrong candidate,” she said.
Sometimes the machines haven't been serviced right. Look at the Florida machines when Al gore was running for president. they hadn't been cleaned and the tabs couldn't be punched right.
Telling about this doesn't mean it happens in Giles county, just that it can happen. Something everyone needs to think about. Sometimes people go through in a hurry and don't pay attention if their vote is what they choose before ending the vote.
Voter fraud does happen in some places.
I think there have been more sightings of Bigfoot in Giles County than of a person casting an illegal ballot.
1:39 I think you are right, but talking about voter fraud in other places don't mean it happens in Giles county.
Do you not agree it can happen in other places, like Chicago, Florida or Maryland?
Would need a smart person to rig the voting machine.
If it can happen why can't it happen here? Don't know any documented case of Bigfoot actually being seen in Giles County but there are a bunch of people convicted of voter fraud.
I'm not sure Big Foot isn't in Giles county. I thought I saw him, but dang if I tell and let people laugh at me.
Haven't seen a case of voter fraud. The cases cited and the republicans who went to jail in Virginia were convicted of registration infractions. People may register Mickey Mouse to vote, but it is rare indeed to see that Mickey actually voted. Now that would be "voter" fraud.
November 1, 2011 – 8 were arrested for absentee voter fraud in Madison County, Florida.
The case began when the Florida’s Division of Elections notified FDLE ad FBI that “an extraordinarily disproportionate amount of absentee votes,” had been cast in the District 1 school board race. The eight suspects were arrested on November 1, 2011.
If Rackley has his finger in it, well you know it gonna be nasty. He's got a crooked finger.
I suppose you can post anything on here. But it would be more helpful if folks did their homework and actually posted the truth.
"North Florida absentee ballot fraud case unravels for prosecutors
BY STEVE BOUSQUET
04/12/2013
The state’s case alleging absentee ballot fraud in a North Florida county continues to crumble as a judge has dismissed all 17 counts against a former supervisor of elections.
Leon County Court Judge Augustus Aikens Jr. threw out all misdemeanor charges Thursday against former Madison County elections chief Jada Woods Williams, making her the seventh of nine defendants in the case to be cleared of wrongdoing."
Because a crooked judge dismisses charges doesn't mean they were not guilty.
Recently a judge ruled that the IRS, which clearly had abused their power and harassed citizens in order to alter the vote in favor of President obama, would not be held accountable for their crimes because they had have released stopped committing them.
Look at how many judges have released child molesters with extremely light sentences and how many have worked the system to benefit their friends.
Ok ok ok. So it was the judges fault. Now I get it. Sorry. I was just confused.
Disappointed because it wasn't WAB's fault 12.39?
And you conclude that how?
http://www.tpnn.com/2014/10/28/expert-confirms-voting-machines-in-illinois-and-maryland-rigged-for-democrats/
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
My money says there aren't a half a dozen people of colour in Giles County that read this blog. Therefore I am addressing you Democrats in Giles County who ought to be ashamed of yourselves for continuing to enslave the coloured population of this county through pandering and out right deception.
Take note, your days are numbered and it is a small number.
http://clashdaily.com/2014/10/life-hurt-democrats-watch-black-men-destroy-crap-laden-liberalism/
It took you 40 additional years to dig this hole for us, but we will dig ourselves out of in in less than half the time.
...and the racists appear.
Sad
9:25
Why is 7:41 a racist for telling the truth? The left has kept blacks in bondage of dependency and darkness since the Emancipation Proclamation. Even LBJ said he would have them (he called them the "N" word)voting Democrat for the next two hundred years. I am so often amazed at how they blindly follow the very party who keeps a foot on their throats.
Is 9:25 a Democrat or the one thinks he's a Christian and a gentleman?
I just watched the site 7:41 posted.
Did anyone else watch it?
http://clashdaily.com/2014/10/life-hurt-democrats-watch-black-men-destroy-crap-laden-liberalism/
It was a couple of African American men talking.
Actually, what LBJ said after signing the Civil Rights Act was that "the Democrats have lost the south for fifty years. " And he was right.
He knew racists when he saw them.
10:19
That's simply not true. LBJ did say that, and you can research it for yourself. elfd
Nope. Sorry. He said what 10:19 posted.
President LBJ: "I’ll have those n*****s voting Democratic for the next 200 years" - Is this a real quote?
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/2088gl/president_lbj_ill_have_those_ns_voting_democratic/
ALEXANDRIA, Va. – Voting machines in the Hampton Roads area of Virginia could be doing the same thing machines in states like Illinois and Maryland have — switching electronic votes from Republican to Democrat.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/04/virginia-politicians-warn-possible-vote-switching-on-electronic-machines/?cmpid=cmty_twitter_fn
Didn’t happen that way in Giles County.
Have we lost yet?
Of all things Jerry Bryant elected to City Council. Just give him the money now. Sorry Allen you got my vote.
Barrett racks up a total of 25 votes! bahahahahaha
8:59 that would be you, Barrett, his wife and 22 more people.
Quite a mandate.
9:30 Don't sound like a religious person??
I came to the blog this morning expecting to see a new thread about how the election commission cheated Mr. Barrett out of a win or something to that effect. Clearly, the people have spoken (AGAIN), and I hope he won't be stirring up another controversy over this most recent loss.
I have it on good authority that WAB has been at the beach all week. Guess he isn't as concerned about winning or losing as much as his haters who are gloating on here, Real Christian folks no doubt.
6:38
Why is it that you feel such a need to attack the Christianity of anyone who dislikes or disagrees with Allen Barrett? Isn't that getting just a tad old?
9:17, WOW! That's 25 more votes than you got. So basically, it looks like none of your friends or family want you.
What does getting an ass whooped and being a Christian have to do with each other.
Let's all say a prayer and hope that WAB goes away.
That is too close to call! Barrett ask for a recount!
Well wen you get on here and brag about what a great Christian you are and how Barrett is never going to be a wonderful Christian like you then you act like an ass you have made hypocrisy of all your Christian claims.
11:28 Good call!
I would like for the Barrett hater to tell us what Barrett did after the August election against the election.
It's sad to be so full of hate that you can tell verses in the bible to read one minute then run someone down the next.
Christanity aside, the few morons that want to bad mouth Mr. Barrett because he only received 25 votes fail to see the big picture. There is a conservative wave across the US that will empower the people, rather than the Democratic agenda of more government. These imbeciles need to look beyond the county line to see right from wrong. Once again, Pulaski will be left in the dust with the same revolving leadership.
In case you can't tell, Mr. Barrett has earned the way to only getting 25 votes.
I appreciate Mr. Barrett's desire to want to run an efficient local government, but his attitude and his behavior are a big turn off.
I read a quote recently that basically said that an idea is only 25% of the process. One has to be able to lead and execute. Mr. Barrett fails miserably at this.
Friday, October 24, 2014 2:39:00 PM, I would also like to know how you know for certain that it was Ray Lanier who filed the complaint. When I called the election commission I was informed that the information was confidential. It's always possible that I didn't know how to use my tongue in the proper manner; either that or you are an outright liar. Either scenario would appear to hold equal weight. Please enlighten us as to your technique if you would be so kind.
6:38. I think you are right. I know Allen enjoys the sun and the sand. I may not have heard correctly but it seems that a table of men at Hardee's was saying the same thing. Either he was "sunning at the beach", "he got sun off the beach", "he was a son of the beach", or something like that. I couldn't hear precisely.
A lot of people on the blog think their shit don't stink. Guess what it does.
That little group sitting there is a bunch of hypocrits.
Is this the devil's work shop?
So many people ridicule others and think that's alright. Even post a chapter and verse in the Bible for WAB and others to read, but never post what the verse says. Makes you wonder if they read it.
I wonder if they see a handicapped person or one that was born with a birth defect, do they ridicule it.
Yes the devil is at work here.
So no one can criticize Barrett or his actions because he has some defect?????
You have completely lost me
Mr. Barrett himself is very critical.
Looks like everyone (including this post) posting on the blog might be doing the devil's work.
Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:22:00 PM I think you stepped on some toes.
I agree with the posting Bible verse should be wrote because I've seen a few post in the past that I doubt know what the Bible is. At least it's been a while since I saw that very bad language.
Some of the things said about Jerry Bryant wasn't posted by WAB.
Keep up the attacks, the devil loves it.
Is the Devil real? Prove it!
8:40 I think that will be like asking CG to prove what Barrett said was wrong.
You can't see God or the devil so hope you can find someone to prove it. I do believe in God and that there is a devil. Afraid there will be a lot of people wake up in hell one day.
CG=Devil
12:24
Aren't you getting a little tired of beating that same old drum? Your calling a Christian a devil really speaks well of you, doesn't it?
Hate has caused a lot of problems in this world, but it has not solved one yet.
5:16 Someone posting on the blog said he was a Christian Gentleman.
I wouldn't call him the devil, but that drum is here to stay. Why does it bother you?
Calling a Christian a devil should bother us both.
When the christian gentleman speaks he is acting like a devil most of the time.
7:32 And he's such a cry baby. Gets his feelings hurt so easy.
Acts like a spoiled child.
Are you talking about his "OK So I Lost" tantrum or that he only got 25 votes in the latest election?
Congratulations to Bryant and Crane! Maybe they will lead this deadbeat council to get off their asses and do something. All the old women voted for Pat Miles because she is their friend, what has she accomplished in her , what, 20 years, nothing! Hatfield was the dunce of the council and could not function without whispering and texting to Baddour. What did Hatfield accomplish 00000! Dunce Award! Go Home ...to the Elks Club!
Baddour is the King idiot of the council, immature written all over his arrogant face . Harwell is simply going to vote against anything Mayor Ford does. Mayor Ford... I am God! Thank Goodness for PIKE!
Whew. What a bitter person.
10-01 Good way to try and get it off you. You know 7:32 said Christian Gentleman and 8:47 commented back to 7:32.
Can you prove there was a tantrum about only getting 25 votes or "Ok I lost?" Strange you are the only one knows anything about it. So sad.
Thanks goodness for Pike? Ask anyone that worked with that idiot at Fafnir. He is NOT smart.
It don't matter who is on the council Speer will still be pulling the strings and spending the cash.
Elections seems to bring out the worse in people.
But they are all candidates 8:37
I'm not a christian and I voted for Mr. Barrett.
7:42
And your point is?
To make you ask questions.
No offense to those that stand behind Barrett, but are you starting to see a pattern? You are a very small minority. Very small. Maybe you should develop a positive attitude and try to start helping things rather than griping all the time.
Hi Johnny, I don't like the things Barrett does, but the ones that hate him so are just as bad as he is.
I just read the blog to see if Barrett has something that is going on in Giles County we need to know. lately there hasn't been anything worth reading. The haters are at it no matter what it it is.
Have you ever wonder why the one some call, enabler and some call him/her CG, want ever try to prove what Barrett said was wrong.
I always hope to see if what Barrett said was wrong, but it never happens.
He has told us a few things going on we wouldn't of known. I know that really upset some.
Seems last threads Barrett didn't post anything worth reading.
Barrett's biggest problem is than he has very poor people skills and often doesn't understand how rules and regulations are implemented. So therefore, he's generally a pain in the ass because of these faults. He does however bring certain things to the forefront for discussion until the thread goes to hell.
I vote for him as often as I can. He'd be an interesting compliment to the people currently running the show in Giles County.
I agree and disagree with your assessment 11:28. But most of the problem is you have a lot of people in our local governments, city and county, who do not follow the written rules and procedures and get offended when it is brought to the attention of the public by Barrett or anyone else. It is not that he does not understand, it is adopted written procedures are often violated and misrepresented to the public to keep Barrett or other un-favored citizens from entering any public remarks on record. Look at the election office. Barrett could not get a strait answer as to which edition of Robert's Rules they were using. The people who are supposed to know don't know and act like children and openly attack any citizen who questions them. I have been in committee meetings where I saw Barrett present to a commissioner the states requirements, in regards to budgets, which conflicted with how the budget had been calculated and presented. The Cmsr. said he had read the same thing. However I watched as that commissioner sat quietly when Barrett tried to bring it to the attention of the board and was openly attacked by members of the commission. It was promoted to the public Barrett was an idiot, when in fact any true idiot could read the state specifically had stated rounding numbers was not compliant in calculating the budget. But when members of councils or commissions have personal agendas, any citizen who opposes their actions will get labeled and ridiculed. That is the Pulaski and Giles County way. It has been that way for 200 hundred years and it will stay the same way for the next 200 hundred years.
I can only say wow Johnny Dumbass. So because everyone else is doing it the rest should step in line? Ever heard the saying if all your friends were jumping off a bridge would you jump too? We can only hope you would because you are such a tool. Following your thinking is what kills innovation in any part of life.
Still claiming you are not the enabler? Laughable.
If you think that it is different in any other town, you have never gotten out.
And how many other towns outside of Giles County have you lived in? I have lived in 5 cities outside of Giles County and you are quite ignorant in your claim enabler. The other cities I lived in had a welcoming government who welcomed citizens opinions. Quite a bit of difference from here. Those cities did not have the highest sales tax rate in the state, offered a variety of entertainment for all types, and choice of shopping and eating. Nothing like anything in Giles County. No wheel taxes, and the government was not screaming for one. Keep on enabling and spewing your ignorant accusations 7:50.
I can understand why you left them then.
I was thinking the same thing. If everything was so much better, why here?
The name calling is getting old.
And forms of entertainment, for the most part, is not the responsibility of government. It is a business decision and supply and demand.
And the other cities and counties did not have WAB in them!
Ever heard of family illness? And the places had people like WAB, but an open government and with the exception of few circumstances the government respected the citizens and allowed them to speak at meetings, even if they did not take their comments serious or for consideration.
You say the name calling is getting old but you chose to take shots at WAB. Your infatuation with WAB is what is old. But then that is the enabler.
Funny. "And the places had people like WAB"...
Heck, I would have moved too!
12:36 What hate you have.
12:36,
Then why have you not moved from here?Just runnin the trap again.
To 1:49 a.m.,
I know you feel it is somehow your responsibility to take up for the man, but only getting 25 votes is a disgrace. Not only is it a referendum on Barrett, but it's also telling about the few on this blog that stand behind him. Call me what you will, I really don't care. I just feel the majority of the citizens know him for what he is, and that is a troublemaker with a loud mouth and a very bad attitude. Yes, every county has a few and we have to deal with it. Just don't make yourself look so foolish by standing behind him. Also, I have said it many times already, but I am not the one you call CG. If you feel the need for me to prove it then give me some info so I can contact you. I will gladly prove I am not him/her.
Thanks,
Johnny
Enabler,
What is really sad and pathetic is your pretense that you are not the enabler. All you have to do is post your real name. That will be proof enough. So nice lie, I mean nice try.
You go ahead and play the sheep led around by the nose and vote because of what others have told you and I will vote my conscience based on what I know and have personally witnessed. If I were to believe what I had heard about Barrett in the community, mostly from government officials, as opposed to judging him based on what I have witnessed and know, then I would probably have voted for someone else. So go ahead and post your proof, which is your real name, and I will be happy to post my real name right back. I don't expect it to happen because I had this exact same exchange between the enabler when it was making statements I knew to be false.
Johnny, Why did you just start posting after the August 2014 election? I think that is why so many think you are cg.
Did you live in Giles county when WAB got arrested at the school board meetings years ago? I've thought that is why WAB acts like he does. If they had given him his three minutes and went on with their business I don't think WAB would of been like he is today. That's guessing because all I know about him is what I read. No one ever post why he is wrong just attacks him. That leaves me to think what he post about Mrs. Vanzant and others is true.
Wake up!
It is rare that anyone questions the validity of WABs statements or comments. The reason that he is treated the way he is, and the reason that very few listen to him, is becaause he comes across as a pompous ass.
I was at a commission meeting one time when the commission voted to allow him to speak. After they did, he ridiculed them and called them names for 10 minutes. The next time that there was a vote to allow him to speak, guess what happened. I would not have voted to allow either.
It's not what he says, it's how hes says it.
He will never be effective, because he has blown it. He has his few sheep.
The enabler term is useless, applies to both sides, and is getting old!
8:44,
Which meeting was this 8:44 because I have witnessed WAB address the commission and question the accuracy of statements commissioners made but I have not seen him ridicule the commission as you would have everyone believe. So please which meeting so I may request the audio of the meeting to hear this ridiculing. 10 to 1 you can't remember when and won't be able to present any proof to back your claims, but will expect everyone to believe you. After all you are the one and only true enabler.
Currently, you are correct, that I can't remember when, but it was in 2004. It did happen. I witnessed it.
You can believe what you want about your God, but WAB has earned the disrespect as far as I'm concerned.
Once again, your use of the term enabler is overused, redundant and getting you nowhere. Further, you use it for everyone that posts negatively against your hero. You really should raise your standards.
12:54 You are indeed correct. Mr. Barrett used his allotted time to attack commissioners instead of addressing the matter at hand.
Similarly, when he was invited by the Democratic Party to participate in its candidate forum, he ran out of time to address issues, because he spent it attacking his host.
As a minister of the Lord having lost his preaching assignment, he now resorts on here to attacking the entire Church of Christ denomination as arrogant.
So, yes. You are correct. Any message broadcast by this bitter little man is wholly lost by his choice of delivery.
1:31 And you are no better than WAB.
I've never been around WAB or you as far as I know, just read what it on the blog. Two peas in a pod.
If WAB attacks Mrs. Vanzant on here and all you can do is attack WAB, what good that do, just proves you are no better than WAB.
You say WAB attacks the C of C. Tell me something. Most C of C thinks they are the only church.
When was the Church of Christ established? Was there churches before there was a Church of Christ? Just wondering on this.
1:31 how could you possibly be more wrong or just plain lying. Barrett has never attacked the entire Church of Christ denomination and you damn well know it. He did strongly criticize the outrageous and libalous ad East Hill ran in the newspaper last year and I as a Church of Christ member was fully in support of what he said because East Hill is a vicious mean spirited organization that gives the church a bad name. They are a divisive and arrogant bunch of hypocritical sheep being led by a fool.
I was at the Candidates forum held at GCHS. Barrett did run out of time as did most of the speakers but he said nothing about the hosts of that gathering only comparing the positions on abortions held by the democrats as opposed to his position of opposing abortions for convenience.
Another thing I want to say some of you claim Barrett is a trouble maker and always complaining about things but I see him as warning about things rather than complaining about them, He warned about the huge lawsuits the industrial development people have gotten us in, the abuse and waste of money being spent for the personal benefit of Dan Speer and others and the lies of Vanzant that continue to drive us deeper into debt and creating division among people.
Barrett didn't lose his preaching position he retired after getting fed up with the underhandedness of church politics. He is a man of integrity that I have seen proven many times ver.
12:54,
I use the term enabler to describe you. It does not matter which moniker you use. You attack me because Because I do not view Barrett as you you try to claim Barrett is my God. You are a fool, a liar and an enabler of wrong doing.
I ask you to give the date of the meeting. From all that you bitch, whine and complain about you have to go back ten years and can't remember the date of the meeting, but we are supposed to believe you witnessed this. It is just more made up crap from a proven liar and enabler. I find it amazing your deep seeded hatred of Barrett stems from one alleged meeting ten years ago you are the only one to have witnessed. Seek help enabler.
It seems that the ones who attack Allen are satisfied, for whatever reason, with the status quo. I have yet to see where anyone has shown that what he says is incorrect, only that they don't like it. That is a vast difference in the two. The truth is not always pleasant,but it is the truth nonetheless. I don't always agree with his opinion on certain matters, but I have yet to find where the facts he states are incorrect. Neither have I seen where anyone else has proven him wrong in that respect. Until you can prove the man wrong, you are only coming off as petulant children who who have no other recourse than to attack the messenger. Now feel free to fire away at me for the same reasons;I've come to expect nothing less.
Ray
In terms of the opinion of WAB, I am in the huge majority. He is a pompous ass.
My dislike of WAB goes back many years, and he has never done anything to change my opinion. I have discussed with him his "delivery". Your desire to be correct is obsessing you, but you continue to get further behind.
Ray. Your opinion doesn't count!
Welcome to the Giles Free Speech Blog where an entire church can be demonized and its members called names.
Viva Free Speech!
When a group representing that church takes out a newspaper ad and proclaims that they are the only real church then they have demonized themselves.
East Hill is the worst kind of church arrogant and predefined to a fault they even have attacked other Churches of Christ through that arrogance of proclaiming that they are the only true church and every one else is doomed to hell because they don't belong to East Hill.
I have heard that, and that is pretty arrogant!
Yep, in true enabler form 7:01. You try to deflect your sick obsession with WAB that stems from one meeting ten years ago onto me for calling you out on the lies you tell. You are a loon. But your post does tell a lot about you. Your hatred stems from you telling WAB to do something to meet with your approval and he thought as much of your opinion as you think of Ray's. Isn't that what that is really sticking in your crawl? Somebody you thought you were better than did not respect your opinion.
10:21 If it helps you to sleep better by creating these dillussional thoughts, I am happy for you!
I have no obsession with WAB, but I do wish he would go away. He is bad for this county. He as a pattern of behaving as you say he did only once ten years ago. Ha! I am comforted in the fact that I am in the HUGE majority that he has shown a poor ability to lead.
I guess when there are people like you who got pissed at WAB, probably for questioning how you or a family members were spending tax payer money, or for wanting to implement a wheel tax, and started a public smear campaign against Barrett from that time on. You and others continuously attack him openly and without showing any factual proof of what you say. And when statements have been made, like in the case of the EDC spending, and election offices, such as co-mingling of funds, threats, attempts to censor the content of speech, etc. the excuses given are not in support of actual invoices or other tangible proof received from those offices and posted by both WAB and some from those offices.
So like I said, if I believed what people say as opposed to what I have witnessed I would be an enabler like you.
He has finished last in every commission election that he has run in. Dead last. And he only got 25 votes in the city election.
Take your propganda somewhere else. You can spin it however you like, but if he were worth a crap, he would be elected.
In honor of Veterans Day enabler I just wonder if you thought of WAB as a Veteran with 20 years service and dedication to this country?
4:48 I remember the enabler telling about how he was a vet. but couldn't name his unit or when he was in the service. I wonder if there are any other vets that can't remember what unit they were in or when?
4:52 He didn't want anyone to find out who he is because someone would kick his rear.
2:02 What a fine upstanding person you are. You love to kick a person when they are down. Is it anyone in Giles county that don't know Mr. Barrett didn't win. You keep yelling it.
You haven't got the beeswax to run for anything.
2:02
The Pulaski Citizen reports that WAB received 30 votes. You said he only got 25 votes. That's a 16.7% error. Are you or the Pulaski Citizen correct?
I'd have to agree with 8:44 and 7:01, WAB is a pompous ass.
WAB when are you ever going to develop some tact?
I keep wondering just how much more the jackass in the White House can get away with before Congress reigns him in. What he is proposing about immigration is unconstitutional and against the will of the people, but he doesn't seem to care. I think he puts the welfare of his party ahead of what's best for our nation. It seems obvious to me that he wants to convert illegals to voters who will also vote Democratic and view the government as the umbilical cord of freebies and handouts. In addition, these illegals will be taking jobs away from the working poor the moron has sworn to protect. The most shocking thing I have experienced is how so many blacks even to this day defend him and keep saying he is unfairly blamed for our problems. Barack Hussein Obama is the worst president we have ever had, and I'm not so sure that we can survive two more years of him.
Many of us believe he is on a mission to destroy our country. Don't forget that he receives expert advice from the likes of Al Charlatan and Jesse Jackson.
People complain about Barrett and that is fine, he is a grown man but He does bring a bit of light to many news items that otherwise would stay hidden in this county. It is not like our local radio station or newspaper covers news events such as litigation against county or city, ongoing problems with 911, school board hiring and firing, and too many others that powers that be do not wish talked about.
I looked at David Rackley's site the night of the election and since. He had WAB got 30 votes. That's not many votes but when arrogant people lie that makes them the ones looking bad.
I listened to WKSR election night. It said Barrett got 25 votes. When the jealous haters get up in arms over 5 votes it makes them the ones looking bad.
8:16 Can't take it when someone points out your mistake can you?
That don't mean they are for Barrett, just pointing out your mistake.
I don't care if Barrett looses or wins, but sure was delighted when Harwell got beat.
Hey, Mr. Barrett, how many votes did you officially get?
When WKSR bothers to actually report news they get it wrong so why would you listen to them for information. Barrett has proven that the news people in this town refuse to report on important things in order to protect their big wheel buddies. Have you read anything about the 911 director abusing his power and sexually harassing workers or lawsuits against Dan Speer and his attorney or the big pay offs the county and city have made recently.
WAB don't bend down to the big wheels and that makes him their enemy and their bunch of enablers do their dirty work of attacking him but the fact remains WAB is the only source for any news about what's actually happening and so far no one has proven him wrong which is more than I can say about his enemies.
I think he got between 25 and 30.
Does it really matter how many votes WAB got? He still lost.
Does it really matter that more people voted against Mrs. Vanzant than for her? She still won.
The bottom line is that Barrett did not win the election for commissioner or city council but the real losers are the county and city that are stuck with third class undereducated clowns running the place in the ground.
No. I think we can say with mathematical certainty that the real loser was Barrett.
Bottom line and mathematical certainty is more people voted against Mrs. Vanzant than voter for her, but she still won.
Another bottom line and mathematical certainty people had had enough of Terry Harwell. He also lost.
Did Barrett cause this rainy day?
7:59, the bottom line is somebody doesn't know how to count votes and report an accurate number. 10:26 and 12:45 are good examples the "typical Giles Countian".
9:37 has it correct about how Vanzant was reelected.
Who is to say she wouldn't have been elected if she was only running against one other person? Your annoyingly repetitive statement isn't very logical. People that like the other 2 candidates voted for them and they both received less votes than Vanzant. I would say that she beat them rather than more voting against her. There is no way to tell if she would have been beaten in a head-to-head election because those votes would have been split between 2 people, one way or another. Barrett getting slaughtered in every election has nothing to do with the votes for County Executive. Why do you continue to bring it up?
6:30 Because someone keeps bringing up Barrett got beat. That's old news just like Vanzant's election is old news. CG really gets in a spin if something is said about Mrs. Vanzant so I think they are just hitting back at him.
WKSR reported he had 25 votes because on election night that's what he had. They said over and over the provisional ballots hadn't been counted yet. That's where the extra 5 votes comes in.
Now can he election be dropped?
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