COUNTY ZONING AGAIN
There will be a meeting of the Land Use Management Committee tomorrow morning, 19 February, in the basement of the Courthouse Annex (Suntrust Bank). According to the County Executive's office this meeting is to implement the county's land use management plan (county wide zoning). This plan, as written, will greatly restrict new businesses throughout the county. It will inhibit enterprise and concentrate even more control into the hands of the few well connected and political insiders. This county- wide zoning under the control of the county executive and a few commissioners will ultimately determine what you can and can't do on your own land. For more information on the plan, as well as the history of the long standing fight for our country's freedom go to kendrickmcpeters.com.
posted by Allen Barrett | 9:58 PM
65 Comments:
With only two of the committee members Commissioner Holt and Reedy
showing up for the meeting, commissioner Faulkner was absent, they wisely decided to postpone any decisions about implementing zoning until a later date. Commissioner Reedy is scheduled to draft some specific proposals and present them at the next meeting.
Once again a severe naiveté was shown by some people in the audience and the committee by expressing their thought about what the zoning states rather than what is actually printed on the pages. County wide zoning is not necessary to prevent such things as a a landfill, rock crushers etc. County wide zoning is nothing short of a boondoggle to increase county revenues and eliminate the few freedoms we have left in this fast move toward socialism. Allen Barrett
Allen -You got that right! It's not hard to find an area with zoning laws and all of chaos & corruption that goes with it. Giles County is one of the few areas where individual freedom still has a chance of survival.
It is time to shrink government interference, not expand it. Our services structure within the county are hard to beat anywhere else. I don't want that changed. I see nothing good with zoning!
That is the reason I am for home rule. If we have a bad apple running things, we need to have a process to get rid of them and hire someone who can do the job within reason. If the council decides to play games, citizens can overrule it. We have conflicts of interest in school funding and taxation. I don't care who the districts vote into office, but do care when they vote with conflicts of interest - example is simply no vote on school funding if you work for the schools - talking on the same basis as a citizen is ok & so is a vote on everything else. There are many other examples.
The political power behind the power to tell people what they can do on their own property is mind boggling. The bureaucratic cost and mind numbing delay can bring a rational person to their knees.
I know I don't have the right or wisdom to dictate an idealized brand of how to protect every person from themselves, their neighbors, or the fickle finger of fate. I know of no one or group I would trust to do that for me. If you really want to mess it up, let the CCP do it for everyone!
don m
You guys will always be too blinded by the propoganda to understand the benefits of zoning!
What pray tell are the benefits of zoning?
Benifits?
No one can put trash in their yard beside your two hundred thousand dollar home. There is lots of things you can do on your own land and it want do your neighbor any good to complain without zoning.
Zoning has good points and it has bad points. If put to a vote, don't know which way I'll go.
to 9:12
I couldn't find in the Land Use Mgt. Plan where it said it would keep neighbors from having trash in their yards, maybe I didn't read far enough. What section is that in?
It is ironic that Commissioner Reedy and his group are wanting to implement this Plan at this time with the economy as bad as it is and people losing jobs. What if a landowner wanted to start a business out of his house or shop to bring in an income to keep from going into foreclosure, to put food on the table, etc.?
1:28
According to the zoning plan, anyone wanting to start a business out of their home would be out of luck. We need to stop this zoning being implemented. Anyone have any ideas how to stop it?
People need to check Marshall Co.- See how long it takes to start a new home & all of the craziness & big dollars it takes just to start one - close to a YEAR + $$$$ for every kind of inspector & idealistic BS, & imaginable bureaucracy ! They stopped their dump because the people made the commissioners stop it. They forced a resolution for the smell etc. on the old dump for the same reason. They got rid of their director of schools because the people got right with the commissioners & they did their job.
If Mr. Reedy & his cohorts want to make sure no poor person moves in next door to them, let them buy a lot at Milky Way or some other gated community when poor folks can't come near without a pass!
If they want to save someone, start with themselves & leave Giles County free. Bad words can't begin to describe my thoughts on ZONING.
Runaway government lives to tax - not protect the people. We don't need socialism & people who like to spend other people's money!
7:55
Thats what this County Charter is all about, people taking back their County Government. Why do you think most of the commissioners are so against it - they would lose some of their power! Notice I said MOST commissioners, there are a couple who can see the benefits of a County Charter to both the commissioners and the people of the county. County Charter should not be confused with Roger Reedy's "Zoning Charter". Could he be deliberately muddying the waters to confuse people?
As for trash in the county, it could be taken care of by the commissioners with an ordinance, something they can't do now. I agree we dont need zoning in Giles Co. The benefits touted by Reedy and cohorts, including Campbell, copuld be taken care of by another means. And folks, we dont get to vote on county zoning.
The answer to your question regarding Roger Reedy is NO.
Why don't you ask some of the residents who live near the rock quarry at Flat Rock what they think about having no zoning protection when they needed it? Had the commissioners of the past done something to prevent such things from happening, those residents wouldn't be having to dodge speeding dump trucks and pot holes on their way in and out of that area.
And the irony of it all is that those residents were stabbed in the back by one of their so-called neighbors.
841 Do you walk to work? Do you use any of the goods shipped up & down the highways or drive anywhere to shop?? All of that & countless more gravel, cement, and other things necessary to civilization are either allowed to happen or society moves back to the cave & swinging on grape vines like apes! There ain't enough caves for all of us!
Should we outsource gravel from Mexico or China - bring it in by satelite & drop it in the middle of your rose garden? Can't do? Yes we need to work out rational solutions, but I don't think putting Roger Reedy, Tommy, me, or anyone else in charge of running individual citizens lives is right!
Mr. Reedy lives on on a major highway where everything imaginable scoots up and down the road in front of his house. I don't see a for sale sign on it. Should we rip the road up & make him walk to town because I think the trucks look too big or I spotted some poor person driving a junky looking truck that puffs blue smoke out the exhaust pipe & pollutes the air I have to breathe?
Sounds like some people are ozoned out on power - telling others how to live & what to do. They want to build a rose garden in the middle of the barn lot, but can't find a way to get'r there without eliminating the cows! I like milk & steak - you like flowers. I won't run over your flower pot if you don't mess with my cows!
9:41
Sounds like YOU need a rock quarry in your backyard. Hmmmmm? If it was for the sake of progress, how could you argue against it? I'm sure that, based upon what you said, you would heartily welcome it and would endure the intrusive aspects of it, because you would see it as a benefit to the county.
Your sacrifice and devaluation of your property would be seen as minimal, right?
I thought there were state laws already in place against rock quarries,county dumps, etc. Between those laws and what could be written by the commissioners if we had this county charter, seems like we could work out a compromise to satisfy the people who need to have a small business working out of their homes and let us build a shed on our property without getting a permit.
Lot's of laws dealing with damages from business activity. Gravel trucks are already required to have covers to prevent rocks from falling out. Rock damage from same, dust, etc. is collectable. There are speed and load limits, etc, etc.
Blast damage is collectable if you have an honest claim, honest judge, & honest government. If you don't have that degree of honesty, you can bet the fingers will be in the till big time if a corrupted government is allowed to control your life. County charter - get them OUT & if need be, insure applicable REASONABLE laws are enforced! The zoners aren't going to do anything except tell us to run around in circles so they can watch & look important.
If governmnt can't manage stuff like Hunter Smith, they sure have no business telling us what we can do! NO FOR the zoners,
3:55
AMEN! And thanks for your straight and to the point post, telling it like it is.
Roger Reedy needs to go back calling his "Land Managment Plan" a document. Charter is incorrect wording.
I know people who live near the rock quarry opn Cedar Grove Road, and I have seen with my own eyes the cracks in the foundation of their house. They presented a claim and were told that the cracks were due to normal settling. Can you believe that? And the quarry did NOTHING about it. I say YES for the zoners.
354 Next step is a civil suit. Sounds real. Unfortunately, the legal system is almost as screwed up as the zoning board would be if methodically & as incompetently as possible implimented as one could expect from another bureaucrat.
If you had zoning, you would spend the rest of your life trying to deal with Oh Zoners who are friendly to people who dynamite big rocks to make little rocks.
Chances are more than likely the head Oh Zoner would have written a regulation denying the right to civil suit & no one would waste their time trying to do something right and logical! They'd provably outlaw gravel & paved roads - back to mud & dust, which are natural (is mud green?)
There is no rock crusher in this county that could not have been stopped, without zoning, if the county commission had really wanted to stop it. Let's be very clear some of the commissioners sold out the people, they were blinded by a desire to have a mineral tax imposed on the crusher.
The zoning issue was very poorly researched and incompetently implemented. Now some of those same commissioners are looking at the increase in fees from such things as building permits and inspections of all sorts. Do not be deceived this zoning bill is about nothing but power and money.
The law as written is very different from what some commissioners are presenting it as meaning. When the rubber meets the road it will be the words written on paper that matter not what some politician thought it meant. The county is about to be overwhelmed with regulations, fees and new levels of bureaucratic expense and red-tape. Zoning must be stopped if there is to be any hope of individual freedom remaining in Giles County. One only needs look at the situation in every county that has had county wide zoning for more that three years to see what we are in store for. Allen Barrett
I believe that I am correct in saying we already are required to obtain a building permit from the County Government whenever we decide to improve our property. This permit requirement is hidden in the Flood Zoning ordance sponsored by Tommy Campbell and approved by a 21-0 vote of the Commission first in 1999 and again in 2003.
We are to go to the County Executive's office and declare any construction project we may have, provide drawings, surveys (hence Tommy Campbell) and engineering documents. The County will then issue a permit.
This law, yes it is a law, has not been inforced; but it exists.
To the 24 Feb 7:42 poster.
You are absolutely right. The zoning ordinance has been in the same category of laws on the books but not enforced. When the zoning is implemented that is when you will see the added requirements to have a foundation inspection, wiring inspection, plumbing inspection roof inspection and building inspection among other things with each of these inspections requiring a separate fee. Just look at what a person has to go through to build a simple garage in some of the counties that have zoning?
Other than creating new money for the county from citizen's pockets, zoning does nothing that can't be done within the power of the county commission already. Allen Barrett
The sick part of the added zoning burden on the citizens is the absoute fact that the many very expensive fees, licenses, taxes and so forth generated by ZONING will not be enough to support the bureaucracy and craziness it generates!
I think the council needs to pass a resolution with funds to buy Campbell & Reedy out, move them to Marshall County, let them fill out all the forms, garbage, & disburse all the fees to live in a hypothetically pure oh so zoned environment! Note - it will take at least 6 months to a year before ground breaking - need to provide funds for a trailer or tent with the house plans.
whoops - no trailers allowed within sight of the annointed ones. No tents without a rat wall. GOODNESS!!! GET HOME RULE PASSED!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW!!!
Imagine having a couple hundred grand invested in a home & land & it takes a year to process ten to twenty thousand in gopher fees while the tax assessor is out there every day making sure the value is increased daily for every nail driven the day before! The house would need remodling before you ever get in it! Bluegill would need a dozen more tax snoops just to keep up with Reedy & Campbell!
You could rent a place like that for the less money than the lost investment costs in a sane county - a county that would be just exactly like Giles County is TODAY!
Stop the insanity!
On this issue I am on the fence. Looking at Murfreesboro that does have tough zoning laws why is there a nuclear waste landfill? Look at Dickson that has zoning laws now and had their water polluted by degreaser chemicals that leached from barrells buried on land. Zoning laws are not going to stop a quarry from locating in your area, or manage the subsequent damages, what they are going to focus on is how you build, what you build, and keeping these up to the codes of proper building. Alfred Bettman in the 30's advised TVA on land use and drafted a recommendation that would become the Tennessee Zoning and Planning Enabling Statues. TN Legislatures adopted this in 1935 which has been convoluted to what it is now. No general consistency with the current plan used today. So putting your faith in zoning to represent and regulate is only as solid as what is adopted and implemented. This county has a real issue now interpreting and regulating....that said NO TO ZONING!!
How many times do we (the taxpayers)have to tell this stupid bunch of commissioners we don't want zoning. They must be like Speer, put it on the ballot until it is voted in.
657 - you're right. We keep fooling ourselves these people are nice good citizens & so forth. Then, they come out of the woodwork like thieves in the night & try to snatch our freedom & take our money from us. They want to tell us how to live. They're supposed to do what we want them to do, not the other way around.
Need to get rid of them. We can still say howdy & glad hand with them, be nice, etc. Just got to get it where they cant stab us in the back!
It doesn't mean everybody is bad - just a couple of busy bodies the need to be doing something else.
So, do we do another lawsuit and have a pact that every commissioner who votes for zoning, we vote OUT of the commission next year?
Nothing benificial about Zoning!!
Any one that thinks so, just deal your land over to me and I will take care of it.
(You have a Bundle of Rights with your land, zoning only takes those rights away from you.)
Check out the law before you take a side.
Zoning is only good for Government and those in charge of that government at the time.
NOT THE LAND OWNER!!!!
950 - GOOD IDEA!
My blood boils everytime I hear ZONING!
Good people don't try to steal the rights of others.
Power madness has killed & hurt more people than any other malady in the history of mankind!
Call Reedy, Lovell, Chris Morris and Joe Yates. They are the main ones who are pushing to get Zoning implemented. Poor ole guy across the road for Joe Yates. Seems he can't do nothing right for Mr. Yates. The man has been trying for a number of months to get his business cleaned up but it still not good enough for Yates and Morris. See what we're all in for. Keep your grass cut!
I'd just like to say that the poeple who live near the quarry off the Minor Hill Road, had absolutely NO say so about the rock quarry that moved in right under their noses. And their so-called friend and neighbor sold them out behind their backs. I suppose the old saying is true that money talks.
Perhaps those of you who don't seem to have much sympathy toward those victimized by their neighbor would likewise have no objection if someone started a garbage dump adjacent to the homes you've woerked a lifetime to pay for. I wonder how you would feel then.
2:26
Join the fight against government power by voting for this county charter. It cant help the zoning problem as that can only be done through the commissioners but if we take the commissioners by the tail maybe they will sit up and listen to the folks who put them into office. The poster who says Morris and Yates are a big problem are right on that.
735 - no one disputes the problems you state. Zoning will not solve the problem. Law suit is the only way to get justice. Problem is, you may never get justice cause it doesn't usually work & it costs more to go to court than it's worth! There are all kinds of laws & fines & remedies for people causing damage to your property.
ZONING ISN'T going to help you! Zoning is just another way to get a pea brain in charge of something. Pea Brain's only job is to keep the huffnpuff machine running & that takes your money. Pea head stuffs your money in it, it huffsnpuffs a message to send you back for more money & the cycle keeps going, faster n faster, till you run out of money or patience.
Yates could have bought the property he's so upset about a long time ago when it was up for sale. His problem, but the whole county shouldnt be penalized because of him.
Those people did look into lawsuits and other legal possibilities but found that there was nothing they could do to stop the quarry. THAT is a fact.
The owner of the land said he has a right to do with his own land as he sees fit. That is largely true, but it becomes wrong when one's actions adversely affect his neighbors.
To 11:14 read the post on this thread from Mr. Barrett dated Monday, February 23, 2009 7:54:00 PM
Zoning would not necessarily stop a rock quarry but nuisance laws would if the county commission would have had the guts to step up and represent the people instead of seeking only non-existent dollars from a mineral tax.
From one who knows:
Giles County passed the Nuisance Law and the Jackson Law in recent years. Seems pro-zoners don't want to remember that the County has these two laws to help protect us. If you'll remember Marshall County is Zoned and then Cornersville City hurriedly passed the "Jackson Law" to stop the proposed Landfill wanting to locate there. Giles County has had that law for several years. And as far as the Nuisance Law, it was passed the same day the Land Use plan was passed. Some of the Commissioners really wasn't so sure they wanted to vote for the Nuisance Law on that day for they feared they wouldn't get the Land Use Management Plan (Zoning) passed. But the Nuisance Law did get passed that day, with some resistance.
Regardless, the people out on Minor Hill Highway could do nothing to stop the quarry. The owners of the quarry laughed at them for trying. This is from one who also knows.
5:49 are you saying that the commission could not have posted the road to trucks under one ton? That they could not have posted the road to 10 MPH? That they could not have closed the road to public traffic? These were some simple things that the commission could have done if they had wanted to stop the quarry.
Did the residents ask to have the road taken out of the county system and given back to the property owners? They got laughed at because the commissioners had already made a deal.
Howard you are a nut. You want the rock quarry companies to own the county, don't you. You cant do all you suggested. It's called progress and no one can stop it.
Zoning is for idiots & control freaks. Idiots need laws to make themselves follow control freaks. Control freaks want laws to make idiots follow them.
Sad part is the fact that they both want the same thing & don't need a law to make themselves do what comes naturally!
11:00
Why not drive out to the folks who now live on "quarry road" and say that to them? You will find that a lot of people do not share your view.
I'm sure the folks on quarry road are upset. I share their grief & would really rather avoid an outstretched hand of help that offers nothing more than warts and bigger disappointments - taking money from them on top of everything else!
The quarry is there because your nemisis wants it there.
If you let your nemisis zone you, you will wake up paying higher taxes to provide an SS brigade to tell you what color the roof will be, the structure of the dog house, tree planning, grass grooming, and making sure the rebar in the outhose foundation is wire tied together and hooked to a 60 foot lightening rod on top of it. Yes, you will need a safety belt and rubber shoes if you plan to relieve yourself during an electrical storm! It'll put some fizz in your whiz!
You seem quite the paranoid one. Everybody is out to get us, right?
7xx nope - not zoned & not worried, just real happy about that!
We need to make sure we don't let it slide on a back burner - we need to kick the can with the zoners in it. Got to drive a stake in it's heart Nail it down & the wind won't blow it back in our face
11:21
Rather than driving a stake into "its" heart, let me sugggest that someone come into Giles County uninvited and put in a beer joint and a salvage yard right beside your home that you have worked hard to pay for. How refreshing another perspective can be.
It's a done deal neither would be next to reedy or campbell until they decide the $$$$ are right - then it turns into whatever they wants.
Until the sale, guess where it's going - Your backyard if you're not on their leash. $$$ & BS talk - everyone else walks.
By the way, where is the public water intake for GC. It isn't iced tea
Why is it so hard for some people to understand, you can not depend on the government to take care of your every problem. Someone wants to put a beer joint or strip club next door to me I'll fight back not roll over and play dead waiting on the government to save me.
We need more 627's, some people make a difference for the good! Some like the zoners go the other way
6:27
I applaud your statement about fighting back to stop some intrusive business from moving in right on top of you. That is EXACTLY what the people out on aMinor Hill Road did when they learned that their "neighbor" had leased his land to a rock quarry. They had legal counsel and were unable to do a single thing to stop it. But when all efforts failed, they couldn't just take the law into their own hands.
I too am one who believes in less government and more personal freedom and responsibility. It's nice to know that there are conservative voices out there in this present day sea of liberalism.
The issue is government not protecting the people. Adding another law to expand government's rights & responsibilities to protect citizens only provides more bureaucracy to wade through to get the final answer of no help.
Everyone has a right to use a public road, but must follow all the laws when using it. There are many laws including conduct, trash, speed, flying debris, etc. If they are not enforced, WHY?
Foundation damage, etc. - any idiot knows it happens with blasting. It is not difficult to assess, measure, and predict the measurable affects of blasting & the zones it affects! There is no question the affects of each blast can be monitored & when exceeded, have a fine & process to pay any & all affected for any damage caused! Create a law. It's not unreasonable for a quary to be regulated with insurance required to pay any damages. Within the danger zone. If all this costs money - it should be a front end cost to start the quary (or continue), paid for by the quary.
It is possible to inspect dwellings, etc. take pictures, etc. & clearly set a starting point. Give the tax assessor a digital camera & make it part of the affected area record. (NOT EVERY &$%*@ house like the gestapo might do) After that, when the cracks appear there is no question! Quary either writes a check to fix it or buys the person out at a minimum of fair market value plus relocation cost.
People are scammed because it's a he said vs they said argument that little folks never win. If somebody triples the blast charge & nobody's home, all they know is a crack appears somewhere & starts growing until the house falls in a sink hole, etc. A quake monitor can tell all that's needed & when it happens the government needs to tell everybody & give them a chance to recoup the damages!
If you think zoning works, try building a house in Marshall County. $$$$ & tiiimmmeee! See what happens if there is a construction or other problem - It goes right back to you trying to get something done from someone who can't really do anything & months or years later you wind up settling out of court with a contractor or realizing the contractor doesn't exist anymore!
IU'm sure there are both pros and cons to the zoning issue, and I agree that a landowner has the right to do with his own land as he pleases UNLESS it becomes detrimental to the well-being and welfare of his neighbors. When what he does negatively affects his neighbors' rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, it becomes wrong!
I don't know all the particulars of what happened to the people out on "Quarry Road" just off the Minor Hill Highway, but I do know their rights meant nothing in the final analysis. Other than the property owners living in that area, nobody else seemed bothered at all by it. In fact, some supported the quarry by calling it progress in that the it would give many people jobs. Horsehockey!
what you say is true. However, the issue is zoning & the intent of the few who want to take control of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, and the rights of private property ownership. Private property ownership & control is what the Constitution is all about. Zoning is the opposite of freedom.
Cities have zoning because it's communal living. Some times the "zoning" is called property covenants that restrict property use - a condition known when property is purchased. Government restriction is the opposive of free by the people.
In our case, the restrictions exist because some don't want to live next door to lower class people with trailers, houses that need repair because food comes first, deadbeats, & a whole lot of really good people who just happen to be poor.
The government so loved by the zoners has provided a solution to all this called government housing projects & areas no inspector goes (blighted areas). One has hot & cold running water the other has hot & cold rooms, depending on outside winter or summer temperature.
All a zoner has to do is move to the city, get elected to something important & he can dictate when & where the people can fart & whistle. If he lives in the country, chances are high he'll have to put up with both because cows don't care & farmers have a tendency to whistle or holler when it time to feed them.
Our problem is city folks who want to citify the country! Examples of their idiocy are the cow fart tax that recently got laughed out of congress a short time ago or the millions of dollars just allocated in the "stimulus package" to study pig dung odor! I'm sure the regulations on all this sort of thing is one of the key reasons our food products are now comming from other nations while our farmers are going broke. South America doesn't have a "US numb zone" above their neck line. Brown rights should be equal to green. Maybe green with envy is part of it. Bottom line, this country is methodically putting farmers out of business, just like manufacturing, resource extraction, and the countless other things causing the decay of our economy and the of our nation.
We have learned to conserve everything except freedom. Because everything some idiot classifies as offensive has ceased, we have nothing, make nothing, do nothing, buy on credit, and anxiously await the inevitable Chinese tow truck to come and reposess this country.
Freedom is precious. Government is there waiting to take it. Liberals want to destroy it!
11:02
So are you saying or suggesting that a property owner on "Quarry Road" should sell his house (at a loss of course) and move to the city? The owner bought or built a home in that area because he didn't want to live in the city. I just do not understand your logic.
417 Go back to 1016 FMV + relocation costs (IF they want to move), full recovery for damages, etc. is not a loss - it's normally a healthy gain. It's also what you are legally entitled to, if you have proof - go back to 1016 & you'll find that covered too - all without ZONING. Zoning will do nothing except keep you from starving if you could get the job.
Zonalizatin won't solve your situation - you want to sit in the catbird seat & tell everyone what they can do on their property in spite of the fact that you never will be able to anything about anything, with or without zoning. Relax, ohzone out, let the world go bye. If you want to get your name in the paper, jump out in front of a gravel truck.
6:53
I normally don't get down to you guys' level, but I must say that you are an idiot! You think yourself so smart that you can talk down to people like me? In my lifetime, I have found that those who think themselves so darned intelligent normally turn out to be the very ones people laugh at behind their backs. I fully UNDERSTAND what the zoning ordinance could and could not do for those unfortunate people who had theier life savings invested in their homes out there! Maybe they should have built a garbage dump adjacent to your property!
By the way, what's this idiotic suggestion that I want to sit in the catbird seat and tell people what to do? I just had to laugh at that remark.
"I normally don't get down to you guys' level, but I must say that you are an idiot! You think yourself so smart that you can talk down to people like me?"
This is so reflective of the way you contradict things 8:07 and a clear example of what I wrote about in answer to your earlier question on a different thread.
When you say "I normally don't get down to you guys' level" isn't that a statement of condemnation as clearly as what you accuse the writer of by "talking down to you".
Stating "I fully UNDERSTAND what the zoning ordinance could and could not do" is really another statement of presumed superiority as no one "fully understands".
howard..
If I made a statement of condemnation, it was targeted at those who do precisely that. They call people names for having an opposing viewpoint. I condemn anyone for that. I happen to believe we can agree to disagree without being disagreeable. Apparently, you don't believe that. That being said, it seems obvious that you would embrace the philosophy that anyone is free to speak his or her mind as long as they are in complete agreement with you! If so, wouldn't anyone see that as arrogance?
Lastly, the only people I see who have the mentality of "presumed superiority" are those who continually run around town trying to stir up trouble and who belittle those who don't agree with them.
Have a good day sir.
542 Are you one of the elitists who claim aboveness, as if you really have no conflict of interest - "I'm gonna vote for more money to feed my tummy & ego ... Gonna vote my conscience in spite of the fact there is no conscience". Or, are you the little bo creep who lost her hammer? I'm not intellectually frosted enough to figure it out - please help.
I figured it out - it's in the root of your favorite word,
"con-science". Fits you & hammer head too.
Elitist? Hammer? What on earth are you talking about? I'm afraid you are losing it. Seek professional help.
By the way, I could care less who you vote for! What a laugher that was.
Anyone who thinks zoning will stop a nuisance does not have the facts. If a business such as a rock quarry wants to locate in your county they can, zoning or not. How, you ask? They will go to the local zoning board, do WHATEVER it takes to gain the favor of said board, and get a waiver or the zoning changed to the designation which will allow them to do business there.
Nuisance law does have a better opportunity to prevent nuisances. Zoning only controls "regular" people, not the local elite or click members, and certainly it does not control large corporations with the money to hire very good attorneys.
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