Are African Americans Brainwashed Into Voting For Democrats?
Presidential candidate Herman Cain made the statement that “Many African-Americans have been brainwashed into not being open-minded, not even considering a conservative point of view,"
Mr. Cain has received much criticism for this statement but so far no one as provided any evidence that it isn’t true. In this thread I hope to provide evidence that Mr. Cain was correct by offering a small history lesson and opportunity for adult discussion.
For example did you know that Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was a republican? Did you know that it was Republicans who pushed through the civil-rights legislation in the 1960’s and that it’s still Republicans who actually seek to empower blacks and others to get them out of poverty?
Are you aware of the term and the origin of, “yellow dog democrat”? It was first used in 1928 by Senator Tom Heflin of
Francis Rice is an attorney and retired army Lt. Col. She wrote this, “ the liberal party pushes programs that keep my fellow blacks dependent on government handouts and temporary fixes, and encourages them to see themselves as victims.”
From it’s founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party it has been Republicans who have stood at the forefront of the civil rights movement. It was Republicans who fought against slavery, amended the Constitution to include all people in its freedoms of citizenship.
Why is it that most people seem to have forgotten that it was a democrat, George Wallace who stood in the door of an
Why is it that most have forgotten or was never taught the truth about democrats who re-started the KKK to keep blacks and white republicans away from the polls and under control?
Dr. King spoke eloquently of judging people on their character instead of the color of their skin,
It was Republicans who started the NAACP in an effort to stop the lynching by democrats. It was democrats who, when they took control of congress in 1892 that overturned practically every civil rights law that had been passed by the republicans.
Many may recall the civil rights struggles of the 1960’s and credit President Johnson with their passage but in reality it was the leadership of Senator Everett Dirksen that made passage possible. This was done in spite of the votes as such notable senators as Al Gore, Sr. Robert Byrd, Fritz Hollings. Even the young Senator from Mass. John F. Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil Rights Act. Kennedy also opposed the 1963 March on
Democrat President Lyndon Johnson explained to two governors his motivation for pushing the civil rights laws and great society, “I’ll have those n-gg—s voting Democrat for the next two hundred years.”
Democrat Senator Robert Byrd described by Sen. Ted Kennedy as the conscience of the Senate stated in 1944, after he had quit the KKK, “Rather I die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.”
It defies logic that so many people of color continue to vote for the very party that has sought to keep them from reaching their greater potentials. The problem, it seems is that many people are victims of a faulty education system and tend to cast their precious votes based on the sweet sound of words and empty promises instead of the realities of actions.
Was Mr. Cain correct in his statement, “Many African-Americans have been brainwashed into not being open-minded, not even considering a conservative point of view," You decide, for me the evidence is an obvious yes.
posted by Allen Barrett | 2:15 PM
146 Comments:
Mr. Barrett,
This thread should REALLY make you a lot of friends in the black community.
If black folks are brainwashed to vote Democratic; are not whites who watch FOX news brainwashed to vote anything but Democratic.
Now that takes care of the Blacks and whites. What about the Hispanic (Brown) and Aisan (Yellow) people???? Who is brainwashing them?
WAB you have finally done it ... you now have proven what you are.
And what might that be 5:13.
I found the article not only very interesting but very informative. This is the kind of article you would expect to find in the newspaper. Thanks Mr Barrett this should be an opportunity for a serious open discussion if ole ------- will let us
have it.
The only thing holding anyone back in this country is themselves. Racism would go away if the monorities would just drop it. They are given more opportunity than any white male and they throw it away just so they can keep complaining. I guess they all thought that Obama was going to have checks delivered to them after he was elected. Now they are fighting amongst themselves with Maxine Waters no even knowing if the President is doing enough to help black people. He took a beating when he spoke in front of the black caucas. I think you have a good point with this topic. The problem is that the brainwashing will keep people of color from seeing it.
FF
This is about as racist as anything that's ever been put on here. The last post is even more racist. This is the kind of commentary that gives this area a really bad name. The preacher is really showing his ignorance now, more than ever. Let's just have a race war. WAB, the wonderful preacher, would love to cause even greater dissension in this county.
What's the problem? Everything in the topic is a fact or a quote. Don't shoot the messenger because of the message.
The topic was very interesting to me and FF's post was also. I never heard of Maxine Waters, so I typed the name in and found lots of info.
Look the things up if you don't believe it.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/10/herman-cain-obama-insulted-black-audience-when-he-scolded-them-at-cbc-dinner-when-his-policies-have-failed-them-video/
Herman Cain: I believe that I’m gonna get a third. Because a third of the black people in this country, at least, are thinking for themselves. Now the fact that they say that word is insensitive. That’s not as insensitive as the President of the United States standing in front of a major black audience, the Congressional Black Caucus, and scolding them because his policies have failed the country, his policies have failed black people. That’s more insensitive, that’s more insulting to me, rather than me using the term “brain-washed.”
wab
Did you even consider what 11:14 said in the above post? I hope you can honestly say this thread was born more of stupidity than racism on your part. I just don't understand why you have to keep something stirred up all the time. This thread has the potential for trouble, and you don't think you're a troublemaker?
11:44
If you knew that your neighbor was having an affair, would you go broadcast it around the neighborhood? Think.
Anyone that thinks this topic is racist should look in the mirror and wise up to reality. You are the one that is racist. The truth hurts, but we have come to a point where we have to look out for the ones that do something for themselves rather than being so politically correct.
FF
One thing for sure Barrett can't be accused of not taking a stand on controversal subjects.
I don't understand why there is objection to this topic. It's talked about on TV and in the newspapers, well some newspapers. What Barrett has done is what the Citizen should be doing each week instead of the sap stuff that don't mean anythig.
I for one appreciate this topic and the information that was shared. I did not know that Dr. King was a republican so I checked it out and sure enough it's true.
Herman Cain is a black man or African American, running for president. He has my vote and I'm white is that being racist?
Another thing I'm not WAB, don't know that's who he's voting for either.
Herman Cain is a very smart man and should be elected President.
An anonymous poster on 4 Oct. at 11:14 wrote, “This is about as racist as anything that's ever been put on here. The preacher is really showing his ignorance now, more than ever. Let's just have a race war.”
It’s not surprising that statement was posted anonymously and even less surprising that the person would fail to provide one single reason to support their absurd claim.
Racism is defined in the dictionary as “a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.” With that definition in mind perhaps the anonymous writer would like to explain how I showed any racist attitude in anything that I wrote in this topic or anywhere else for that matter. Ignorance breeds stupid statements and the claim by this anonymous poster is utter stupidity without a single iota of factual support. The attitude that if there is any kind of discussion that involves people of color it will cause a race war is not only absurd it reflects a disrespectful racist attitude that people of color just can’t handle an intelligent discussion about politics, race or anything else. No one is responsible or irresponsible, intelligent or stupid, mature or immature, right or wrong, capable or incapable simply because of their race and to think they are is to fit the dictionary definition of racism.
Then comes the 5 Oct. 6:16 anonymous poster who stated, “Did you even consider what 11:14 said in the above post? I hope you can honestly say this thread was born more of stupidity than racism on your part”.
To answer those questions, yes I did consider what 11:14 said and I put my answer to their statement in this post. As for the second question the thread was posted not from “stupidity or racism” but from the simple desire to have an open discussion about a political situation that has an impact on the presidential elections. I hope to present more threads of this type in the future as it seems this is the only local forum where such discussion and news can be found. Just as I have brought important news to the public about local matters and given everyone the opportunity to have a say I plan to expand the blog to more “commentary” about things taking place outside the county.
I thought this thread was discussion why is it no one wants to discuss this?
Like tell something good about someone running for president.
All you people voting for Obama, don't you have anything to say about him? If not why will you vote for him.
Make this like a debate, you just might win a vote for the one you like.
I haven't made up my mind who I plan to vote for you could help me make it up.
This acting like children want help anyone.
When Obama was elected I knew that the American people were clueless about government and economics. I don't think there has been a time in my life where I felt so sick at the thought of the media's lies and manipulations that will sway someone to vote a certain way.
Why are people afraid to discuss this matter. A couple of people even warned that it would lead to a race war or Barrett had made enemies in the black community just because he put this on here.
Have the powers that be deemed it to intelligent for regular folks to discuss.
Mr. Barrett you are historically accurate. However, even during the Civil Rights movement a shift was taking place and a division was taking place in the Democratic Party. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 changed the South's view of the Democratic Party especially since it was a southern Democrat, Lyndon Johnson, who signed into law. There is little doubt in my mind that with the southern shift from Democrat to Republican (although many still hold the Democratic line for the most part the South is solid red) that, like Strom Thrumond, many of the "Dixiecrats" who rejected the Civil Rights Act and supported Jim Crow would today be Republicans. Now, am I saying that all Republicans are racist? No. I do think that Mr. Barrett's historical evidence does lack this historical political shift. Also, I do not believe that his historical evidence, while somewhat accurate, does not bolster his and Mr. Cain's claim that African American's have been "brainwashed" into voting Democrat. African Americans do make up a large Democratic voting block, at least since the late 1960's, and people do vote their interests, but I do not think this is brainwashing. Middle aged, white, Christian, Southerners make up a voting block as well and do not think for a second that Republicans do not take advantage of it. Are they brainwashed? No, they vote together and they vote their interests.
Please excuse the double negative, I should have more carefully proofread my most. This sentence should read "I believe that his historical evidence, while somewhat accurate, does not bolster his and Mr. Cain's claim that African American's have been "brainwashed" into voting Democrat."
Barrett, you have really out done yourself this time...Let me give you a little imformation on your next de-humanist attempt to slander the people of Giles County. In your statement you mention people of other "race" We are all of "The Human Race", and to state otherwise is ludicrous, we are people of different ethic background, NOT DIFFERENT RACE, THE HUMAN RACE. To state a person is of different race due to color of skin, being black, white, yellow, red, or any other skin tone not mentioned here, is shameful...to state that black people a less intelligent, and can be "brainwashed" more so than other person of the human race...shameful. If your trying to start a war in Giles County...keep up the good work. Your all about causing trouble.. Have you offened the black people of our county? your darn skippy you have, and any other person of the Human Race...I am disgusted with you, and the people of like mind.
11:16 needs to wise up. I have never heard anyone not describe color as a race. It is on every job application. Maybe they haven't seen one in awhile? Black people stay upset and offended, so I don't think your ranting did very much good.
11:26 We are ALL god's children, and I would think a man of God would particularly appreciate that.
It's people who think like you guys do who made me drop the name Republican. No wonder blacks are offended. However, I shall remain a Ronald Reagan Conservative.
Well obviously ignorance is alive and thriving in some areas of the county as proven by 11:16 and 11:36.
"De-humanist attempt to slander the people of Giles County" did you actually read what I wrote or did you as usual just see my name and automatically go into your enabler attack persona? What slander? Have you been off your medications again? As for race, on almost any form from the doctor's office to the social security office you are asked what race you are and it's very doubtful anyone with the exception of you and a couple of other fools have put "human" in that space. Certainly we are of the human race but simple logic, which you seem to lack, makes it understood that if you are talking, walking upright, writing, and share other human characteristics you probably are a human. This usually is not an identifying characteristic required on most forms.
Except for you, "race" is understood as someone of a certain class or kind of people unified by shared interests, habits, or characteristics. There is the human race but there are many sub-races within that category. The Germans are a race of people, Spaniards are a race of people while there are still other sub races within those groups.
I haven't seen anything where I referred to "black people as being less intelligent and able to be brainwashed. Anyone can be brainwashed it simply means "persuasion away from facts by propaganda or salesmanship". It takes place in thousands of classrooms everyday. You see the result of such "brainwashing" in the people marching around Wall Street attacking police and the very means by which they have become rich enough to not worry about being at work or school. You see it in people who watch a commercial on TV and are convinced if they don't run to WalMart and get it their life will be over.
Now before you jump to any false conclusions about this making me mad let me clarify. You have twisted and fabricated things that I wrote and things that were not written by me therefore you are a despicable liar and while liars are disgusting you are no more significant to my psychic being than a pesky mosquito on a summer evening.
To 11:36 While we are all the creation of God and He loves us all (Colossians 1:16 and John 3:16), certainly not all are His children.
To claim we are all God's children at best is to misunderstand and at worse to fully make the Bible a lie.
Unsaved people are never referred to as God's Children in the Bible.
Only those who are born again are children of God (John 1:12; 11:52; Romans 8:16; 1 John 3:1-10).
My opinion is not just some Africa Americans may have been brainwashed as Cain said, but lots of young people of all races were.
Then it goes back to a lot of my father and his father before him were Democrat so I'll always vote that way.
My opinion is Barrett wrote about what Herman Cain said, didn't say he supported him.
Mitt Romney is gaining ground.
My opinion again is it will take a African American to beat Obama. I don't consider Obama as an African American, his wife, yes.
It was a Republican president that freed the slaves. For that I'm proud.
My ancestors didn't own slaves, they were as poor as could be. Some slaves had it better. Yet some people look down on me for being white.
Why can't we all be equal today?
wab
Wasn't Saul of Tarsus one of God's children? How about the Prodigal Son? Isn't a person who goes astray still God's child although he or she needs to repent?
Never said that a person who is saved isn't one of God's Children only that unsaved people were not God's children according to the
Bible.
Saul of Tarsus and the prodigal like everyone else were not God's children while they were in an unsaved or lost condition. Before I was saved I was as lost as Saul after I was saved I became as much a child of God as Paul.
If you have a problem with that take it up with God He made the rules I just repeated them.
wab
Then you and I disagree with that as well. Do you think you are right about EVERYTHING? Well, you are not.
So is a child of God who drifts back into sin no longer His child?
5:19 and 5:32 you would do well to pray for the right answers to your questions and stop your hatred towards other men.
11:16 your ignorance has entertained me. Thank you for the laugh.
But while I am here I am wandering who elected you spokesman for the black people who live in this county because I can tell you that there are a lot of black people that do not agree with you and I will let you guess what color I am.
5:19 Barrett made a priceless and accurate statement at the end, "If you have a problem with that take it up with God He made the rules I just repeated them."
You need to talk with God about what he's done not with Barrett or any other humans. While Barrett hasn't claimed to know everything he is right about this.
8:42
So it's the same old status quo here. If you disagree with the blogmaster or with his followers, it makes you wrong. Right?
I disagree that some of us are God's children while some are not.
You may recall the example of the shepherd who left his flock to find that one which was lost. It was still his sheep even though lost.
11:16 Very smart people can be brainwashed.
Barrett may not have supported Cain but he said he agreed with him. Mr. Barrett you have made many enemies with this subject. I am not black but I was raised to think that you had to vote Democratic. The south has has always been this way, that is not a black or white thing. My father would not vote any other way. As for myself, I do not support any party. Does anyone really think that because you belong to a party you will always believe what the party believes? I would hope not. I support a person because of who they are and what they believe as an individual. I guess I missed the brain washing of my parents. Mr. Barrett you have opened a can of worms and IF you ever had any African American supporters you have lost them. The African Americans that I have shown this to are outraged.
9:18 If you remember the story of the shepherd you should also remember that he went out looking for "his" sheep that had strayed from the flock. He was not looking for the sheep of another shepherd.
There is a world of difference in a saved person who strays off the path and a person who was not on the path to begin with. I would suggest you speak with someone with a more mature and extensive Christian understanding about this subject. There are many things that Christians believe differently and most make very little difference as to their salvation. Churches are made up of people who have chosen in like manner. Allowing instrumental music or not allowing it in church is a very important issue to many that doesn't make either side wrong only different. It's the same with whether you drink in moderation or not at all, whether you overeat or fast continually. There are things we do out of obedience but they are not saving factors. The reason I have responded to you on this subject is because it is the uttermost important matter of our lives. Jesus the Christ, Gods Son, sacrificed His perfect being for the sins of our chosen imperfections and offered that sacrifice to us that all who would surrender their will and choose Him
would be saved and have eternal life. There is no salvation outside of that choice. Obedience, works, attitudes, nothing can be substituted for the gift God gave.
We can develop different ideas about what obedience is, and that doesn't make either side wrong, but as for salvation their is nothing but right and wrong, no areas of grey shades only clear cut black and white.
To 6:55
So there will be no misunderstanding I am firmly supportive of Mr. Cain and at this moment I continue to hope that of the twenty one candidates either he, Rick Santorum or Michele Bachmann will win the presidency. I am directly opposed to Perry's attitude on the border and I learned a long time ago not to trust New England Republicans.
If I have made enemies with this topic I'm sorry it was not my intent, but if I had to do it over I would do it the same way.
I am always amazed and suspicious when a person claims to speak for others especially when it's a white person declaring they speak for black people. I feel very strongly that is an attitude of patronizing that should be offensive to everyone in that group regardless of their color.
Your statement, "I was raised to think that you had to vote Democratic", proves the point Mr Cain tried to make. While he used people of color as an example many have been brainwashed on the subject of politics, religion, all manner of things. That, also is proven by your other statement, does not mean a person has to stay "brainwashed". Many come out of that situation and think for themselves unfortunately many others remain ignorant of any other possibilities.
wab
You suggest that I discuss this topic with a more mature Christian? Well, it surely won't be with you. The shepherd went looking for HIS own sheep who had gone astray. They were still his sheep even though they had wandered off. I would suggest that you do a little more research in the Bible and become knowledgeable about God's children. Have you ever heard of a wayward child? If my child got lost, he would still be my child for Pete's sakes.
If Barrett is supposed to keep us informed of important local issues and events, why hasn't he made a topic about the Tennessee Court of Appeals shooting his case against the county and Coleman down?
3:47
Excellent. And what about the status of the Clay McAlister trial. Good point.
That definitely is a local issue that should be discussed. Even if it does involve Barrett, we should hear about it because it did cost the taxpayers money. They sure do talk about Vanzant costing the county money but when it comes to this it is kept quiet.
I saw it on WKSR's web page. Barrett lost and the county had to hire a lawyer to fight it.
Vanzant still cost the county 70K.
Who is going to cost the county money next?
4:29
Amazing journalism, isn't it? They keep blaming Mrs. Vanzant for something that was provoked by one who continues to cost this county lots of money. Simply amazing, and how they can defend him is beyond comprehension.
How did Barrett provoke Vanzant in to not interviewing Mrs. White?
Looks like to me Barrett has cost the county money and Mrs. Vanzant has cost the county money also.
7:26
No, in my opinion he provoked the plaintiff into suing the county. That's what cost taxpayers 70 grand.
Tall tales!!
2:11
Yes, it was a Republican president who freed the slaves. I too am proud of that. And I totally admired Dr. King; he too was a Republican. I also appreciate the fact that the party asks all men to get up on their own two feet and stop asking for handouts. That's called personal responsibility.
All blacks do not blindly follow the Democrats, but it appears that most of them do. And that troubles me, because the Democratic party keeps them in chains of bondage called entitlements. I long for the day when those like Mr. Cain, Allen Keyes, and others will finally get their people to see how they have been taken for granted by the Democrats.
Having said all that, I sadly can no longer call myself a Republican nor will I vote for another one other than whoever runs against Obama. He or she has my vote.
But because of people like Bill Haslam who is now trying to stick it to teachers and a few of the hate-filled people on this blog, I want nothing further to do with Republicans. And I used to work hard for them and attend rallys. No more.
7:34,
You totally contradicted yourself with the last sentence. You want people to have personal responsibility but you don't like Haslam because he is trying to improve our educational system in Tn through personal responsibility. If you are going to stand with the unions you are a democrat thug. If you are a teacher, I hope you are more clear on your positions in the classroom.
FF
Dr. King might have been registered a Republican, but his message was far from anything the Republican party stands for now. In fact, if Dr. King were alive and speaking today Fox News would call him a "socialist" and "Marxists."
fox
No, I dislike Haslam because he ran on a platform sympathetic to teachers. As soon as he got elected, he joined the other white sharks in the feeding frenzy against them. He lost the teacher vote, and I hope to see him out of there next election. Oh, don't take my word for that; just go ask a few teachers what they think. And, by the way, I truly believe that every person who works in whatever endeavor should be accountable.
You can call me a thug all you want, but it doesn't matter to me. I am (please read slowly) a Ronald Reagan conservative. Your name-calling and smart remarks remind me so much of another individual I know. Could you be him posting as the fox?
whats even funnier is the term african-american. You are either an american or you are not. My ancestors are from europe, yet i see no reason to refer to myself as a european-american. When 95%+ black americans vote for obama, and you hear the interviewers ask so many "why?" and they cant even put a coherent sentence together.....well, its pretty easy to figure it out on your own.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negro
Modern language has been using since the late 1960s: Black; additionally, Black African for people native to the African continent, and Afro-American until from the late 1960s to 1990, and African American after 1990 for people in U.S.A..
The United States Census Bureau announced that Negro would be included on the 2010 United States Census, alongside "Black" and "African-American," because some older Black Americans nevertheless self-identify with the term.
WAB when are you going to make a topic about losing your case?
What do you want WAB to say, "I lost."
I heard that on WKSR didn't you?
Treat everyone with politeness, even those who are rude to you not, because they are nice, but because you are.
12:51 Very true post. It realy goes back to the golden rule. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. If everyone did this we would all be happier.
3:29
And this blog would cease to exist.
It's time to make all post lableled with a name. It would decrease the number of big mouths on here who seem to know what's best for everybody else and not themselves.
William Johnson
Doesn't the NAACP still stand for National Association for the Advancement of Colored People?
Don't UNCF still stand for United Negro College Fund?
Why can't we just be men and women and forget the crap?
To Friday, October 07, 2011 10:06:00 AM
You say the "The shepherd went looking for HIS own sheep who had gone astray. They were still his sheep even though they had wandered off. I would suggest that you do a little more research in the Bible and become knowledgeable about God's children. Have you ever heard of a wayward child? If my child got lost, he would still be my child for Pete's sakes". Don't you understand that you just agreed with what Mr. Barrett stated about belonging to Christ and not belonging to Him? I didn't want to get in this conversation but this is to important. It's you that needs to spend some time reading your Bible since it clearly talks about those who are children of Satan and those who are children of Christ. John 8:41 tells the facts.
God's children? Interesting what the republican frontrunner believes:
Mike Huckabee, an ordained Southern Baptist minister, asked in an article, "Don't Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?"
Its laughable the republicans may not be able to turn to religion to cover up their inability to lead when having to answer questions like this.
Mr. Barrett, I do not speak for other blacks. I have spoken to several of my black friends and they all agree that this subject is racist. Have you shown this to any of your black friends? What was their opinion. Just because someone was raised by parents who thought one way does not mean that they are being brain washed. I have a lot of ideas that my parents did not. I go to a different church than I was raised in but does that mean I got away from the brain washing of their church? Because you were taught an idea by your parents is not brain washing. If anyone is attempting to brain wash someone it is you. No matter what the subject you are right about everything, at least according to you. You ask people to prove it yet you never agree they are right. Just like the election, how far will you go before you agree you are wrong, probably never. It has been proven more than once that you are wrong but you will not accept it.
7:23
Excellent post. It's just a shame that he will not accept what you had to say.
This post is not racist. 7:23 needs to point out what they think is racist. Anytime someone talks about black people they say it is racist. That is what is shameful.
10:34
Yes, it is racist. The thrust of this thread was to imply (my opinion) that blacks are duped and not capable of seeing what democrats are doing to them. While I agree that the democrat party gives entitlements for votes, I do think this thread is designed to stir up more trouble. It's sad.
America is dying, freedom is under assult, Obama is destroying America. If you voted for Obama to prove that you were not a racist, Please vote for someone else next november to prove you are not an IDIOT!!!
10:34.....you are the one that has been 'duped'. The democrats prey on the ignorance of all americans, but specifically minorities. They tell them that the old, rich white folks (specificaly men) are the enemy and that their party has the 'chosen saviours'....the ones that will 'get them what they deserve'. There are some blacks that are open minded enough to look at the facts and not blindly follow the dems. Sadly, they are few and far between.
12:28
You are so right about that. It appears that blacks are still in that entitlement way of thinking, and the democrats seize upon that big time. Were I a black man, it would embarrass me to think that my people don't think about what that party stands for. They WERE the party of the KKK and slavery. Who set them free; he was a Republican named Lincoln.
The real friend of the black man is the Republican party, but they just can't see it and would prefer to let people like Jessie Jackson tell them what to think. They could learn a lot if they would listen to Caine, Allen Keys, and other blacks who know how their people are being used for their votes.
Now, as for the rich man, please let me say thank God for them. I worked my way through college, thanks to a rich man giving me a job and an opportunity to feed my children and take care of my responsibilities while doing so. It weass a rich man who paid my salary for years after college. Many of those who resent and hate the wealthy never stop to think that it is they who ARE the jobs creators. Where would my family have been in life had I not had a job? Maybe I could have been living off the government and voting for democrats? Think.
Did you know that Lincoln hesitated about freeing the slaves? He actually wanted the blacks to go back to Africa or to Haiti. He thought that as long as the blacks were here that there would be problems. All of these things ya'll are quoting are right but there are just as many occasions through history where the republicans did bad things too. I have been reading a lot of history about Republicans since this subject was started and though the quotes are right there is plenty of arguments to the opposite also.
7:13
Yes, I knew that. And you are right.
It is beyond belief that white people can get on this one-sided blog, that is known for its biased, noo-intelligent views and talk about what black people know, believe and what's best for them. For someone to tell me, black or white, that I don't know how to think or what's best for me is like kicking me in the gut. Here again is the example of an earlier post....
Were I a black man, it would embarrass me to think that my people don't think about what that party stands for. They WERE the party of the KKK and slavery. Who set them free; he was a Republican named Lincoln.
The real friend of the black man is the Republican party, but they just can't see it.
Were you a black man, I would hope you would have more sense that this obvious white DA.
This blog is going to be the death of someone. I want to see AB get out of his liability with it. He seems to lose a lot in court. He may need to start saving. No, he is using county money that he says is being wasted by others for one stupid reason or another.
William Johnson
8:57
I wanted to say to you that I am a white man, and that I never meant to insult you. Perhaps I should have made a better choice in words. All I was trying to say is that, typically, blacks vote democratic in spite of the fact that they (the Democrats) seem to make a conscious effort to keep them in chains known as entitlements. That's NOT to say that ALL blacks do that, and I never meant to imply that they do. Frankly, I am quite embarrassed at what a lot of whites do as well.
Again, I apologize for offending you; that was not my intention. I just hate to see blacks in general duped for their votes.
Any man, black, white, or yellow, has my total respect as long as he behaves himself and treats his fellow man fairly.
What a bunch of racist crap. You're not concerned one iota about blacks being duped, and your reference to skin color is by definition racist. You're just a sore loser. Otherwise we would see posts deriding union workers, teachers, farmers, lawyers, soccer moms, those under 40, and indeed the majority of voters in 4 of the last 5 presidential elections who "typically" vote Democratic.
You lost. Your elitist republican country club values are routinely rejected. Get over it and stop trying to play a race card where none exists.
I do apologize if I am not behaving.
The problem is that you can't hide what is true. The majority of black people would vote for Barack Obama if he ran as a republican, democrat or independant. There was a test done on the radio where they interviewed black people and asked if they liked Sarah Palin. Most didn't know who she was, but when they told them that she was running on the ticket with Obama, they said they love her, she will make a great vice president. What is also true is that most people in this country, white and black, don't know enough about politics and what is best for them to be allowed to vote. It is why we are in the mess we are today. Unions and entitlements being used as strong arms to keep people held back. This topic, rather locally or nationally, is going to have to be discussed because it is a major gliche in our system. If you are black and you are offended then get over it. Look around your neighborhood and see how many kids live with their father and mother. See how many black kids are going to jail before they get out of high school. Just go around and ask them what they aspire to be when they grow up. Once the attitude of minorities changes into an " I can be successful without the help of government programs" America will be better off. How many black parents sit around and complain about being held back because they are black while their kids listen. Kids will believe anything their parents tell them. It is the same way when some white redneck says the "n" word in fromt of their kid. Guess what they are going to go around calling black people? Herman Cain wouldn't be offended at this topic and look how successful he is. Oh yeah, he is also black. That should teach you something.
7:37
Funny how the black person on here is the one crying racism everytime they post. You better think those guys playing golf at the country club. Without them, nobody would have jobs. How many businesses do you have? How many people do you employ?
7:37
I accept your apology even though you couldn't bring yourself to accept mine.
Some of my very closest friends are black and I have never had anything to do with the country club. You seem to be the one playing the race card. Get past it; we are all Americans, pure and simple.
Where is Barrett?
Who's business is it where Barrett is?
You've been wanting him to move maybe he has.
4:44
I hope so. Many of us hope so.
4:44 why are you so stupid and defensive? He started the topic, lost a lawsuit and hasn't posted since. Wondered if he was walking around with his tail between his legs? Stop being a moron.
Old proverb say, "Better to walk with tail between legs than with head between them" 5:30 sure knows how that feels.
Yes, Barrett starts the threads, but who post the most?
I bet if he started a thread that it's raining today, 5:06 would have something to say against WAB on it.
I'm not taking up for Barrett just having something to say about the Christian Gentleman. He likes to be the main one.
5:30 You are a very rude and abusive person. I hope you are different around family and friends.
You are right 6:19, I am rude to morons like you. My family and friends don't get to see that side of me because they aren't stupid like you.
If they allow you to remain in the family they can't be very intelligent 9:19
I may be a moron and stupid, but I do not have SIDES I am the same around everyone. I try to treat people like I would like to be treated.
Did anyone watch the debate last night?
5:30 How could the county have Chris Williams as their lead attorney, without conflict of interest? I thought his step-dad was a commissioner in the 7th district.
10:44
So what? Stop trying to get something stirred up.
to 10:44
Why don't we discuss Barrett's loss of his appeal and the fact that he has cost the county $34,000to date? We need to be informed about current issues, don't we?
Because Terry Harwell had nothing to do with the lawsuit. Try to use your brain 10:44. I know it can be difficult for you.
I don't understand if Chris Williams was the attorney what did the county attorny do. Did the county pay Williams or Hensen or both? I'm confused how this could cost the county 34,000 dollars.
I thought Hensen was the county attorney.
Does anyone besides me notice that when Mr. Barrett is not on here spewing venom that his followers aren't here either? Could they be one and the same, or is that just coincidental? Hmmmmm.
8:14 Does that mean yesterdays post was all by you?
I read about the lawsuit in this weeks paper, did you?
8:55
Nope.
Was this thread for talking about who's running for president or just bitching?
I thought Cain did pretty good in the debate, but Romney is ahead.
Something smells about the Williams/Henson county attorney business.
Questions were asked but no answers
have been given.
If Henson is the county attorney why is Williams involved and who is paying them?
If Williams is working for the county who authorized it?
Why did it cost the county so much if Barrett has to pay the court?
If Henson is paid 40 thousand a year to be county attorney who was the 34 thousand in the paper paid to?
There are a lot of things that ain't adding up.
1:33
I believe your questions could be easily answered if you would call either Mrs. Vanzant, Mr. Williams, or Mrs. Henson. That would seem the most efficient approach.
1:33 just wants to try and stir up trouble after the major blow from Barrett losing the case. Just trying to find a way out of the hole that has been dug. Typical response from the C.A.V.E. people.
FF
Fleet
No truer words were ever spoken.
The one that Angers you
Controls you.
Don't give anyone that power.
I guess the fox or is that weasel and thew enabler just ain't interested in
how our money is spent and misspent.
so typical of those crawling out of the well.
Disagree with the comments against 1:33 PM's post. Citizens have the right to know. From what I understand Henson has a 'retainer' of $40,000 per year. Anything over and above, including lawsuits are paid extra. After the local trial regarding the 'mistake' made by the elections office when they qualified Coleman to run, Henson submitted an unitemized bill to the county that was in the $17,000 range, more than double Barrett's costs as the plaintiff. Garner paid the bill without question. Since nothing was ever explained the assumption was Williams was paid by the county as well as Henson. Williams was the personal attorney for Coleman. If Henson's bill to the county was indeed double the costs of Barrett then the bill should be itemized. If Williams received nothing from the county toward Coleman's defense, the county finance office should make a statement and clear up the doubts. Williams was then hired by Mrs Vanzant to defend the county in the appeal. Why Williams and not Henson since she had all the background in the case?
6:22
There you go again promoting that "enabler" lie that was started on me by allen barrett. The only enablers I know of are people like you who keep perpetuating that lie and who do their darndest to have something stirred up. Stop promotoing that lie and I will quit bringoing it to your attention. Fair enough? I've made that offer before, you know.
All you have to do is ask your commissioner or Mrs. Vanzant why they hired Williams. It is that simple. If your commissioner doesn't know, then you need to vote for someone else next time. You all stir the pot after all the food is gone. What it boils down to is Barrett sued the county and didn't win. It cost the county and Barrett a bunch of money. After two judges said he didn't have grounds for the suit, you all still won't let it go. Quit trying to place blame and admit defeat.
Is Barrett going to take it to a higher court?
8:08 Sorry but my commissioner want answer the phone. I plan to vote for someone else if they run next time.
I wasn't the one asking about Williams' pay but since read it asked would like to know.
You seem to know a lot about what goes on, so if you know what would it hurt to tell? I don't mean that hatefull, just asking.
Hey, 7:00 where in 6:22 statement is there any reference or anything about an "enabler". You show your hate filled ignorance and hostility by attacking anything that you consider to be favorable to Barrett. You are not just a fool you are so hate filled it has made you blindly stupid.
10:50
Go back and look; there were two 6:22 posts. Sorta makes you look a bit silly, doesn't it? And you have the nerve to call me stupid?
8:29
You have three commissioners in your district. It would be very hard for me to believe that you can't get one of them to answer the phone. What district do you live in?
I have had the same commissioner for over ten years and haven't been able to get a call to them the entire time. Try to call Jackson, Beech, Holt, Harwell, Campbell and see how far you get.
Belive it. It happens. I am not the poster who made the claim above but I do experience the same in my district but when they come knocking at my door for support at election time, you bet I'm gonna tell them they won't get it, and why. And I'll let my neighbors know.
8:59
Uh...you forgot to throw a stone at Mrs. Colerman. I'm sure it was just an oversight. Or was it?
Howell should be on that list.
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The 9:16 comment was deleted because it involved the personal life of a private citizen. It's bad enough that gossip is used instead of facts when commenting on the public behavior of public figures, gossip about private individuals, even if they were former commissioners or employees of the county/city after they leave those positions their private lives should remain private to them and their families.
9:11 I wouldn't want to get any advice from Howell. She usually just has a blank stare on her face during the meetings.
Isn't she one of barrett's buddies?
I wouldn't doubt it. Her husband is behind the "charter".
So is barrett.
Just because some people agree on a subject dont make them buddies.
Anyways Howell and Jackson agree on some things and I know for sure Jackson is no buddy of Barrett.
wab
Why don't you start a new thread concerning your appeals loss? I thought you felt strongly that citizens need to be informed?
Why would WAB start a thread about the results of his appeal? If people havent already read it by now, tuf. Frankly I admire WAB for having the fortitude to appeal a judge's ruling and the results have set a precedent for all future candidates. So if I choose to run next time and dont get my required number on the qualifying petition then I can sue the county for letting Coleman get away with it and not me.
3:50, surely you have more sense than that. It is people like you that shouldn't be allowed to vote. Most definitely shouldn't run for office. You can sue and lose just as Barrett did. Howell only agrees when someone tells her she should.
3:50
And you will lose just like barrett did. Mrs. Coleman didn't "get away" with anything other than soundly defeating a very quarrelsome and troublemaking individual (my opinion). And I believe that's the reality that his followers (maybe two at most) can't seem to accept. Oh, and hasn't he really set a precedent? So sad.
4:09
Excellent post.
WAB, would you kindly look up George c. Wallace on Wikipedia,and see the real truth about him. A lot of you would be suprised to find out about the real George C. Wallace. Please look it up before you judge and maybe some of you will think before you say terrible things about fellow human beings.
Thanks....Jerry
7:08 What did WAB say about a fellow human being, that you are talking about?
I was not taking about wab.and human beings.I was talking about the way some people on here just try to create more hate by calling people names.All I said to Mr. Barrett and all of you to read about Gov Wallace and you would be surprised by what kind of man he really was,But sure he made many mistakes, but he asked for forgiveness.Jerry
Wonderful day. Looks like peace in Giles County.
Every one have a nice weekend.
4:09 Careful. You might end up voting for me and wont know it. What was nonsense about what I said , its fact now set in concrete.
October 14th 7:08
You do know that a lot of what is on Wikipedia is unverified info and any one can add to it. Some of Wikipedia is true but some is not.
10:11 If you new him and his family pesonally as I did you would know it is true, Thanks Jerry
Gov. Wallace was a good man that did some bad things, it happens in everyone's life.
Dr. King was a good man that did some bad things, that is one of the characteristics of us humans. No one is all good or all bad, for the most part we just try to do the best we can with what we have.
Later in life Gov. Wallace tried to apologize and made some giant strides toward showing genuine change in his life.
Mr.Barrett, thanks for helping clear up some things on Gov. Wallace and Dr. King. Gov Wallace was more of a segragationist than racist, there is a difference. Gov. Wallace was a very power hungary man. That was his biggest problem. At one time he would do just about anything to get elected
One of his main issuses was the government telling the states what to do. Thanks, Jerry
I just love it when dumb DEMOCRATS try and label anyone who DARE question any definable group of individuals obvious behavior as being "RACIST".
It's just soooo predictable and typical of your average run of the mill socialist libtard.
Tell me something MR or MRS LIBTARD; who died and left you in charge of the label machine?
OR better yet, why is it you can't stomach the completely legitimate question being asked here?
Don't bother answering cause we already know the correct answer. It's because you simply want to turn everyone's attention away from the obvious reason.
We all know that whenever any person of color in this country dare to act or think as an individual, they are ostracized by the "Group" for acting outside what the "GROUP" considers acceptable.
Exactly the same kinda way "UNIONS" treat anyone who dares to operate outside the confines of the UNION. YOu know; kinda like Nazis.
Everyone knows that there is "strength in numbers". And Jesse and REV AL, maintain their seat at the BIG HOUSE TABLE, as long as they keep delivering the vote for their Democrat Masters. MY my, what our brothers have given up, for a few crumbs and years of empty promises.
Now put that in your commie lib pipe and smoke on it !
8:37 Who are you talking to?
8:37
I'm pretty sure the "free speech" blogmaster will delete this post, but I'm going to say it anyhow. It's people exactly like you who caused me to re-think my affiliation with the Republican Party. While I could never vote for a Democrat because of issues like abortion and gay marriage, I have washed my hands of the GOP. However, I will vote against Obama next year and will conti nue to be a Ronald Reagan Conservative.
10:48 you will only waste your vote if you go with a third party so you must be voting from the Republican nominee. I also have held my nose and voted for the Republican as the lesser of two evils because I know no third party candidate can possibly win and Obama must be defeated in order to save this nation. At this time Herman Cain is the only conservative that may face Obama next year and I will gladly vote for him even though I still have some reservations about his tax plan.
10:48 What are people like us to do, I don't like the Democrat or Republican parties. A third party want have a chance.
I have always voted for the man I thought would do the best not the party.
I still wonder how anyone can turn this country around. What president let the factories start moving from the US? How do you find jobs when they are all gone?
7:27
The president cannot stop private industry from re-locating wherever it wants to go. It's all too convenient to blame that on George Bush, but the fact remains thjat it is private industry, and we are not a socialist country...yet!
7:54 I wasn't blaming Bush, I really didn't remember which President it started under. I thought some started moving under Clinton and I wish he was the president now.
It hasn't been to many years ago factories started moving out of the US for cheaper labor and them get more money. When I say too many years could of been 40 that's not to many to me.
8?l51
You wish the former liar-in-chief was back in the Oral Office? Are you kidding? I mean...you are joking, right?
As for factories moving out of the country, can we not lay that at the feet of labor unuions? Want to put Americans back to work and see the economy flourish? Our government needs to let those industries come back at no penalty and hire back the Americans who lost their jobs when they left. That would seem far more plausible than what Obama did by throwing money at the banks.
When did obama throw money at the banks?
I agree the unions was the cause of factories moving out of the country.
Wanting cheaper labor. I thought that was what 1:51 was saying.
Factories moved to the south to get away from the unions then when the unions came they moved out of the country. High taxes, medical benefits and cost of doing business keeps them out of the country. Our tax penalties on business is among the highest in the world.
Obama is a self proclaimed socialist, read his book to see it, and a socialist believes evertything should be controlled by the government not the people and all the profits should go to fund the government.
As for throwing money at the banks where have you been, that's what the first trillion is stimulus was used for, to pay off those who contributed the most to obama.s campaign.
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