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I know this is in real poor taste, but have you checked for koolaid wrappers & cups? Did the elves show up for work today?
There might have been cyanide on the square but it was definately at a business off the square and an employee ended up in ICU
The date of the cyanide poisening was Jan. 3oth and as of March 2 it has not been dosposed of
Kathy Norman was on call at er the day that this happen.
yes she was-so was I
WKSR reported on the 12:00 pm news on Monday March 5th that the bottle was marked "Cyanide" which it WAS NOT-it was marked "Jewelry" and the employee wrote "Do Not Touch" on it herself after she already had contact with it-and it wasnt a jewelry store
Name of business please?
The question I want somebody to answer is why was this information
kept from the public until it was told on this blog site this morning? Is this blog more in tune with whats going on than the newspaper and radio?
I'd just like to know why would you open a bottle and it be a white powder, then stick your finger in it??? DUH!!!
Why does a business keep a bottle of poison around to start with. Duh
so, no one REALLY knows anything. it is unknown WHERE it was found, it is unknown Who found it. it is unknown what was really on the bottle. if anyone really did then it would already be told here. those claiming to know actually know nothing.
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i read what happened.
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It was found on West College Street
Is the cynadine still in the business could someone answer that? And if so why has it not been disposed already?
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Mr. Barrett! YOU made a mistake??? Now, that is what I call news.
Mr Barrett was right I was on call in the er that day. A female was put in icu because of the poison.
Mr Barrett Asks....Why has there been no information about the bottle of cyanide found at a local business on the square? What was it doing there and why has no one been charged with endangering other citizens? What is the status of the bottle now and how long before it will be disposed of? When will the public be made aware of this situation and why haven’t the hazardous waste folks already made this situation public? Why was the public kept in the dark to begin with?
Are these not questions a reporter would be able to answer before reporting his story? OR are the questions posed simply to get the mind to imagen all kinds of cenacle plots. Cyanide is also used to kill rats and mice. Could it be that the owner of the place of business simply had rats or mice and a long time ago had used the cyanide to kill them, put it away and forgot about it? Could it be the story is as simple as that?
It wasnt there to kill rats. No matter why it was there, it wasnt marked poison. Mr Barret apologized for his mistake. The only wrong information he had was that the business was on the square and it wasnt.He's not perfect none of us are but if people would keep their eyes and ears open, he is usually pretty close to right.
And what was he right about in this story? I see only one statement of fact by Mr. Barrett and that was that the cyanide was found on the Square the rest are questions concerning the situation. Once a "Reporter" reports information found to be untrue he begins to lose his credibility as a reporter.
what are the facts to the story, do you know b/c I was on call the day it happened. barrett didnt report anything other than the fact that this had happened and he questioned why no one knew.the victim wasnt going to lie about what happened to her but she didnt want a big fuss either.neither did her family.they were very concerned about the media not knowing or being able to get to her
I dont know the facts...thats my point. Mr. Barrett is the reporter and asked the questions of the readers. I dont think anyone will question that the cyanide was there and the poor lady became ill. My point is why ask the questions if you are the reporter? Get out there and find out..that's what reporters do. Reporting is statement of facts not questions on the facts. You missed my point.
I'm sorry. I guess I did.
No problem 7:50:00AM. These postings are so one dimensional and at times very hard to get your correct point across. Again I dont question that the cyanide was there and the lady became ill. I would have liked for the reporter to have reported all fact such as Who, What, When, Where and Why. That's what reporting is. Not questions unanswered.
I'm not a reporter but from being on call in the er, this is what I know: Who-She will tell you if you ask but is not volunteering her name (she still works there),What, its cyanide in a container marked jewelry cleaner (when it was brought to the er it was wrapped up in newspaper and a McDonald's bag)When, Jan 30th, Where, read above in earlier post, why, she was cleaning some things out and looking for decorations, it was marked jewelry cleaner -(this is on her records at the hospital)and one of the owners had been looking for some so she took it to him-he told her it was poison and SHE marked it "DO NOT TOUCH"(This is also in her records at the hospital)She is NOT stupid-Why would anyone open something if it had poison on it.They wouldnt.Also, its still there.I like my job at the hospital, I was on call that day and I did alot of notes in her file-
Thanks for taking the time to give a bit of info on the situation "Hospital worker".
Think what you want I do work at the hospital
I wasnt disputing that you work at the hospital. I was simply directing my Thank You to the hospital worker. Since you didnt give a name but where you worked I simply addressed you as "Hospital Worker".
Trimhed, Thanks for clarifying. I had know that it was used for killing rats at one time.
to anonyous-i'm sorry-it was hard to tell
Looks like anonymous is once again trying to stir up the pot or has he been smoking it.
Wab writes an entry on the blog that exposes a news worthy event that has been either covered up or unknown by the local media. I appreciate being told about it and there still has been nothing in the local paper with only one mention on the noon radio news.
Now the question is, what is a reporter, other than one who reports? Wab reported and many became informed. Excuse me if I seem somewhat confused by anonymous, on the one hand he continually critizes wab as a know it all, then critizes him for not knowing everything. Wab asked several questions, I suppose to find some answers but clearly to expose this story. I’m not anonymous and thus am unable to know what’s in wab’s mind. I have not made as extensive a study of wab as has anonymous so I can’t comment on why he does what he does. Here’s the bottom line, I appreciate what wab has attempted to do for this county I don’t know his motivation but believe he has benefited the county as a whole. Maybe if wab got a job at CBS as a reporter making about a million dollars a year he would give more answers than questions but wait a minute they already pay some people there more than that and they can’t get it right as often as wab does now. Thanks wab and please keep up the good work.
Howard, Thank you for clarifying that anonymous is an idiot. Okay here's the deal. A container of cyanide was found in Giles Co. and transported in a McD's bag with no public knowledge and all this knucklehead can do is question Mr. Barrett. This is a blog! The GilesRebel.com is not up and running yet. The blog is not a news media. As for killing rats, the only building in Giles Co. that has a rat big enough for cyanide is the board of education building.
P.S. It sounds to me that anonymous is K.Norman
Will Mr. (reporter) Barrett be starting an investigation into WHY Willa's is closing? Semms to me it's none of his business.....or mine!
Blue head - you blew mine with some a real gem - Thanks for humor with a touch of reality
The stupid guy with the blue head is a real gem! And he is as smart as a box of rocks.
Why is it any of your buisness for the who what when where why and how. Its not...Leave it alone
So sad - you don't have any rocks
To Anonymous who said...
Why is it any of your buisness for the who what when where why and how. Its not...Leave it alone
Why is it my business?, are you that stupid? Do you know what cyanide can do? Let's just say that the McD's bag was placed on a counter in the hospital and was accidently knocked over and became airbourne. Guess what! That you would read about in the paper. Which paper? Every paper in the United States. It would be called the largest terrorist attack on U.S. soil since sept. 11. That's why it's my business as to who what when where why and how.
Thanks for climbing out from under your mushroom and sharing with us the crap they've been feeding you.
Why hasn't there been anything in the news about the cinide? Is it still a danger and is the owner being questioned? Has there been any other info about it?
So Kathy jNorman does read the blog. Does she do it for Tee?
Why is the cinide still being kept in Pulaski and kept a secret.
It costs alot to dispose of it and the owners dont want to pay for it and the secret, unfortunately, its who you know-
Is'nt that they way it is here in Giles County?
Always!!!But fortunately, that kind of behavior doesnt reflect everyone-The majority of Giles County are good folks!!!
Yes, you're right the vast majority of Giles County folks are very good, wonderful people. Problem is that very often it's good people who empower and enable the bad.
What is the latest on the cyanide find? Has it been disposed of yet?
Why hasn't the paper published any thing on it yet? I overheard a man at the courthouse tell Mr Barret that it had been removed a long time ago. It seemed to surprise Mr Barret because he asked the man, "are you sure". I was only passing so I didn't hear the response or the rest of the conversation. Anyway the question that really concerns me is if the local media is willing to cover up this extremely dangerous situation what else have they hidden and will hide from the people of this county.
From WKSR.COM
Cyanide Poisoning Injures Local Woman
Posted on March 05, 2007
An unidentified Giles County woman is said to be doing fine after coming in contact with a deadly chemical.
According to Giles County Emergency Management Director Pierre Billard, the incident happened approximately four weeks ago. Billard would not reveal the name of the woman or the business in which the contact took place.
Hillside Hospital notified Billard of the incident, saying that they were treating a white female patient that had come into contact with cyanide.
According to Billard, the patient had been cleaning a rarely used storeroom in a Pulaski jewelry business when she found a bottle with a white powdery substance. The bottle had the word “cyanide” on the outside, but did not contain a skull and crossbones, the symbol for a hazardous material. The woman opened the bottle and touched the powder and moments later began getting ill. She was taken to Hillside where doctors secured the bottle in heavy cotton gauze and placed it in a zip-lock bag. The woman was tested for cyanide poisoning.
Family members of the injured woman called WKSR today to say that the bottle in question was marked “jewelry cleaner” and not “cyanide” as reported. They asked that her name still be withheld.
“They cyanide mixed with moisture in the womans body, causing her to get ill,” says Billard.
A remediation team secured the bottle and did a search of the storeroom to make sure there were no other bottles and no residue left. The team destroyed the bottle and its contents.
“Anytime you find a chemical and your not sure what it is, call 911,” says Billard. “You can also contact the Poison Control Center at 1-800-222-1222. Billard also warns to never flush a chemical down the toilet. Call and find out how to dispose of it properly.
Billard is to close to Vansant to have any credibility. He lied to the radio.
Does any one know what the truth is about the cyanide? Is it here, there, or where?
Did it cause a threat to our people? or was it contained in a secure place?
If Billard lied, who knows the truth?
Oh, does this mean there will be an immediate investigation of the "cover-up"?
But don't you need to investigate the investigators? Something sinister could have taken place with the handling of the evidence.
Was there a coverup? What was it? why did it take so long to remove the cyanide from the county? Who was responsible to have the cyadine removed? what does the Safety Director get paid and
give me a break! who are you going to believe mr. barrett or mr. billard? if mr. billard said it was removed weeks ago all he has to do is show you the work order when it was picked up. would you be happy then? would that shut you people up?
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! Hilarious. If anyone owes an apology for misbehavior, I think the wrong one is being asked.
I can't wait to see this. What's Billard's number?
Should have known someone would have to look it up for you.
Anonymous why haven't you taken the opportunity to shut wab up and send him into exile. Call your buddy Vansant and Billard and get the receit. You said it'd be easy.
That's like trying to stop a runaway train with a rope. Laughable.
What no receipt yet? Anonymous, your credibility ain't showing to well. I get it you relly don't want to see wab gone because you like him, that's what hero worship will do to you.
Wrong, anonymous. I have always disliked arrogance in people and would not want any harm to come to WAB....or anyone else for that matter. I just wish he would stop to consider that he is not the only person on this earth who has a brain. Further, I'd like him to see that anyone who disagrees with him is not lacking in knowledge and ignorant.
But if he wants to go away, that's entirely his decision...not mine.
anonymous why haven't you responded to the challenge that was offered. Is it possible that wab was right and the cyanide was handled just as he "reported"? It's only arrogance when it ain't backed up.
Wrong. One can be in the right and still be arrogant and cocky. You know that, don't you? Think about someone you know (besides WAB) who is an arrogant know-it-all. That should clear up your misunderstanding of the concept.
We don't have a paid safety director YET but Vanzant has made it clear she wants a job created for P Billard in this next budget go around. And guess what - she wants him to supervise the fire and rescue folks who have worked as volunteers all these years and done an excellent job. What a slap in the face for them. Vanzant has been trying everything she can to get a paid county job for her buddy. Lets hope the commissioners will see through this and vote it down as they did once before.
Should this be investigated too? Someone needs to be exposed maybe?
A paid county job. Do you really think he can handle a pay cut like that? Do you really thinks he's been running emergency traffic illegally for all this time with out getting paid. We don't need his supervision and we sure don't need him showing up to everything we do.
Is the ever faithful Jane being replaced with a new shadow?
At a recent meeting of Rescue Squad members Vansant showed up with Billard in tow. When the complaints began about Billard showing up, uninvited and illegally, at rescue operations the ever alert Janet V. seperated herself from him quicker than from Joe during elections. Giles county does not need a safety director we need a county executive.
You gotta hand it to that woman. She's useless aas a county exec but she sure can think on her toes especially when its for her gain. She fools people into thinking she's doing a good job until you delve into it and find what the true facts are.
Hey anonymous everyone is still waiting for the receipt you promised would be so easy to get about the cyanide being removed from the county. Is it possible wab was right and you was wrong?
Don't insult us by dodging the question and talking about arrogance, just who was right and who was wrong is enough.
Anonymous 9:08 , you got that right, and someone who hails from Giles Co not Lincoln. Do we have to tollerate this for another 3 plus years? Anyone know what can be done about it?
I think you need to wait til next election and do what you feel is best at the voting booth.
Much damage can be done to Giles Co in three years.
April 1, 9:07 pm
Agree wholeheartedly the Fire and Rescue Volunteers don't need Billard (or anyone else) supervising or coordinating their volunteer efforts. They've been dedicated, hard working, effecient, etc all these years why do they want Billard fluffing around interferring and getting his mug shot in the paper and taking credit for what the Fire and Rescue volunteers do. Wouldn't be a surprise if some of the volunteers quit over this and they would be justified. All of us who support Fire and Resecue volunteers should be contacting our commissioners and urging them to vote NO on funding a Safety Director.
Guess no one has revealed the receipt for the cyanide removal yet.
Where is WAB on this. I would have expected a full page report (expose') in the giles rebel. So incredibly laughable.
It seems he is still waiting for you and your big mouth brag about getting a receipt that proved he was wrong about when the cyanide was removed. You had the perfect opportunity to show just who was the liar and who was telling the truth and guess what mr liar you have been exposed. Wab come back we need you.
Laughing so hard here my ribs may crack. WHO are you talking to?
Oh wab, please come back...oh exalted one and savior of the county...please come back.
While you're laughing why not produce the receipt and let us all have a good laugh at wab's expense.
Why don't you produce the receipt?
Receipt or not, we often get laughs on here. It's very entertaining.
I'm sure based on your writings that you've heard this rhyme many, many times.
Liar, liar pants on fire….
I just noticed something incredibly funny in this week's paper. It was a letter to the editor wherein the writer was "suggesting" that Mrs. Vanzant was going to offer the budget director (or whatever it's called) position to Judy Roberts.
Here's a news flash: Mrs. Roberts turned that offer down days before the "enlightened" writer went off on a tangent. So laughable.
And these people are smarter than we dumb Giles Countians? What a joke!
It's truly sad that some people are so bitter about the election last August.
Anon. 4-19, 7:00
the "enlightened" writer wrote his letter last week and it got published this week. But wait judy Roberts didnt turn down vanzants 1st offer of 70,000 it was only after it was reduced to 58,000 that she turned the job down this monday. even then it would have been a 12,00 raise and shes not even qualified to do the finance director job. Greedy. Fact! Can you wonder what the other county employees felt when someone with a lot less education than they have was offered such a hike in pay.
And the "enlightened" writer (aka smarter than the average Giles Countian) is among the small band of malcontents who knows best how we should live our lives and what we should think.
Of course, this has absolutely nothing to do with the results of last August's elections.
Have any of you ever turned down a job offer? If so, would you agree that your decision is none of anyone else's business?
There is no receipt for the cyanide b/c its still there!!Billiard is mistaken or misimformed!!
If Billiard is mistaken or misinformed about the cyanide then he should not be the EMA director. The fact is Billiard lied about the cyanide. He lied to the citizens of Giles Co. because he did not want to send anyone into a panic over something as deadly as cyanide.
Just so everyone knows I am the woman who was cyanide poisoned. And to my knowledge the cyanide was disposed sometime in the summer months. Yes, it was "covered up". I was told to please not discuss it with anyone and to keep it low profile. So, if anyone has any questions over the matter I know all about it.
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