That crazy prankster Tee Jackson...
...he now claims Barrett and Winkles were never arrested. Check this out!
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204 Comments:
Kendrick:
Two questions
Was this Report presented to the State and/or Giles Co Commission, or where?
Any idea who supposedly "apologized" to the school board?
Woweeeee!
1-23-7
What is the source of the article and who wrote it? Remember the hearings & trials where the entire group of "board heads" sat on one side of the court room in defense & support of Gonzales & Jackson?
I do know that the budget statements used to obtain taxing and funding have been fraudulent - that is, manipulated by false information and supported by open false statements, with intent to deceive for the purpose of obtaining money that would not otherwise be obtained! It isn't difficult to see why our society is crumbling. One could start with the word, "deceit".
I'm certainly not a Biblical expert; but, I can't imagine any word more frequently mentioned in the Bible than deceit. It is always followed by real bad things happening to those who use it and equally bad results for those who follow and tolerate it. And, who will stand up and testify in defense of the deceivers? It doesn't matter whether "you" sign your name or not, does it?
The common defense of deceit is "Negative". What good things can anyone say about deceit? "You" did manage to get huge sums of money by deceit. "You" wasted it and have no tangible benefits aside from pipe dreams of an alter to insanity. The only thing that has grown is a lust for MORE! Two huge tax increase requests that were denied - both fraudulent - plus a withdrawal of reserve funds that can never be repeated without ruinous tax increases. According to the Bible, God has a special place for deceivers and dummies like me who have really done nothing to stop "you". If "you" don't believe, simply read some of the history that hasn't been polluted by revisionism. The domino you hear falling in the distance is headed "your" way!
don m
Tom,
(1) The letter was intended for the eyes of the school board. WAB somehow got ahold of it, and sent a scan to me, along with this charming intro:
"Just when you think they have sunk to their lowest level they come up with another amazing insight. This is a page from a nine page letter from the Director of Schools to the School Board in support of his upcoming evaluation. There are several eye opening comments but none that reach the level of eye popping like the second paragraph under the heading "Public Relations". Warning this communication contains intellectual nudity and should not be read in the presence of children or people with heart conditions. Also be advised not to eat anything or drink liquids while reading this statement as a serious choking hazard may be unavoidable."
(2) I never heard of anyone apologizing, so I think this is simply a case of an over-active imagination at work. Of course, if anyone DOES want to apologize, they are quite welcome to do so in this blog....
[crickets chirping]
So... anyone wanna apologize?
[/crickets chirping]
Guess not.
Unbelievable!
Note that I've edited the title to reflect the true author of the idiocy. At 4:00 AM last night, I mistakenedly blamed the whole school board. Ooops.
I notice the dates are 2004 and 2005, is this last years letter?
Rebel Yell
Has the man has completely flipped over the edge, grabbed the wrong handle, & I possible flushed himself??? Could it be we were a step closer to the real ole Hickory??? Or is it still hickory dicory dock, the mouse runs up n down the clock??
Oh, PLEASE..... Ole Hickory.
For the whiners and complainers, I would just like the answer to ONE question. Why are you doing your best to keep something stirred up? What is the pay-off. Please don't say that you are simply concerned for the welfare of a bunch of ignorant Giles Countians who so desperately need your "divine" guidance.
This is for the anonymous who asked why we keep things stirred up ,sounds like to me you keep things stirred up by asking stupid questions.Signed MR THIS TO SHALL PASS!!
Inkruddible! I wonder how many he'll take down with him. Sounds like bubbles from the drowning man who grabbed the anchor instead of a life raft. Can't let anybody know he screwed up!
FYI--A school board member did not give out the info yet, but given by chubbs himself, Jackson.
what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One of these days TEE & friends the rath of the Lord will be upon your poor little soul,then what u gonna do,hide behide behind that new building you wont to build.Even if you get to build it,it was God himself who instilled the know how!And if he sees fit he can bring it down!You should try and hold on to something much hihger and more powerful than money.A man who lives for money and power is a fool!One day Jackson you will realize that you may hold the most powerful position in this town,but you will be without a shodow of a doubt,SHUT DOWN at those perly gates up high.AnOnYmOuS
Where is the letter from Tee Jackson to the Board members posted?
No one so far has paid attention to what that letter actually said. It said that they were spreading lies such as "The school board HAD two citizens arrested".
Well, the school board didn't have them arrested...those guys got themselves arrested that day. They were disrupting the meeting...everyone has forgotten that because they were found not guilty.
To Anonymous Jan. 24 10:10:30 am:
Since a Jury found them "Not Guilty" how can you say they were disrupting the meeting. Even the Judge who heard the case said privately he would have found them Not Guilty of disruption. If you had been at the meeting you would know that after a short recess called by then-chairman Gonzales the meeting, and a subsequent meeting went on business as usual. Definition of "disrupting a meeting" is that the meeting could not be continued.
"They were disrupting the meeting...everyone has forgotten that because they were found not guilty."
The above quote leads us to believe the writer doesn't believe in jury trials, judge trials or any other way to judge if a person is guilty or innocent. The writer thinks if you are charged of something you are guilty regardless of verdict. What do you think the court system is for?
Back to the letter Jackson gave to the board members prior to their evaluation of Jackson. Where is it posted on here?
Who admittedly made the call to the police. Who was there in support of the idiot making the call. Who lined up on "the school board" side of the courtroom to listen and support the prosecution of 2 proven innocent ciitizens. Who amongst the board protested or said "we're doing something wrong at any time? The board could have stopped the circus any time they so desired. Matter of fact, who determined they were breaking a law or decided the Constitution is subservient to J & G?
Could you please post the letter in its entirty so all who are interested may read it? For those who can't find it you click on the link in the title-
Tuesday, January 23, 2007
That crazy prankster Tee Jackson...
...he now claims Barrett and Winkles were never arrested. Check this out! Click on the word this!
"Not Guilty" means you didn't do whatever the charge says.
Hasn't everyone here figured out that this county is ran by the good ol boys, always has been and always will be. You can't stand up and voice your opinion over anything for the fear of being arrested, fired or whatever retalliation. You just have to join their little click or go somewhere else. But please don't disagree with them or tell them they are doing something wrong.
And some who want power so badly only wish they could run things. I think a lot of us have about figured that out as well.
Sounds like the old Superman jingle.....truth, justice, and the American Way. Laughing here. You desperately want power, but please...you're no Superman.
Your concern for Giles Countians is touching and would also include me. Am I right? Well thanks, but no thanks. I can manage my own life without your concern and "divine" guidance from the Lord. And I am not a paranoid person who believes practically every elected official is out to do me harm!
Let me see if I understand the letter. Tee Jackson now claims he lives in Giles County too? In that apartment on Magazine Road instead of his big nice home in Athens? Did he write that letter himself?
Reckon we could get a two for one deal if we hooked him and the county executive up to a lie detector to find out where they really live?
Jackson=Alabama livin, non tennessee tax payin, piece of crap!!!MR concerned
24-7 5.11.14 Don't want power, just going to take it away from those who abuse it. We're sure you can manage your own life to your liking, problem is, you don't stop there & we don't like your likes! You want to spend more money, because you don't have it, you hook up with the taxem crowd, take money out of poor people's mouths, & tell them they'll get smarter if they'll just give you all their money. That places you in the middle of the problem. Bubba gonna wake up & get you - raise another knot on your knot head!
24-7 5.11.14 Don't want power, just going to take it away from those who abuse it. We're sure you can manage your own life to your liking, problem is, you don't stop there & we don't like your likes! You want to spend more money, because you don't have it, you hook up with the taxem crowd, take money out of poor people's mouths, & tell them they'll get smarter if they'll just give you all their money. That places you in the middle of the problem. Bubba gonna wake up & get you - raise another knot on your knot head!
YOU CAN SAY THAT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!
You imply that I'm a democrat by accusing me of wanting more taxes and more government intrusion. Hardly so!
There are good dems & reps - would vote for davis over alexander any day of the week - over frist too. a+ for blackburn & beavers z- for the nafia & dwarf who lost this past year - could definately add teddy, & barney to it also george & bill Come to think of it that be a wierd collection perfers
How would you whiners like it if Mr. Jackson and Mrs. Vanzant went about calling you names the way you do them? Would you have the class to remain silent as they do?
If you are guilty of something it is better to keep quite. When you speak out with lies it only makes you look worse.
Whinnie is in a class all by hisself in the back corner reserved for those too dumb to know the hook in the mouth & tatoo on the back side is only cool to the fool who follows.
I don’t know about Jackson, but I do know about Vanzant and believe me when she opens her mouth, only lies come out. Like it or not, it is what it is.
So...those who disagree with you are characterized as being fools?
Jackson claims the SCHOOL SYSTEM had them arrested. If you will ask him he will tell you the state did it.
Has Jackson really stated the state had the mem arrested? No wonder he stays silent.
Even the title of this particular thread is demeaning to Mr. Jackson. That's a shame. And NO, I'm not in his pocket. I think on my own two feet.
So do I.
trimhed, have you read the transcript from the trial?
Trimhead with that kind of thinking lets hope you are never accused of a crime, are tried and found not guilty-because if everyone had your way of thinking no matter what was said at that trial you would be guilty!
Mr. Shirey was right in stating that there were people there who were disrupting and causing trouble. And it continues right here on this blog. When will the complaining end?
Why is a complaint considered disruptive or causing trouble?
Say nothing
Do nothing
Be nothing
Well it seems the"complainers and whiners" ain't always wrong - several months ago on this blog (or the other one) somebody wrote Jimmie Stewart was to get the deputy position in the EMA office with Pierre Bullard. And what was the annoucement this past week? Bingo! What a farce.
Gonzales, could have avoided the whole thing if he had handled it correctly. He was just trying to show his authority.
Guess the complaining will never end until the reasons for complaining leave - maybe 29-5.12.12 can give us a break & hop on the bus with them!
Then complain on...eventually, someone will pity you.....I certainly don't. This is a free country. If you aren't happy here, either run for office next election or catch a bus.
I was born and raised in Giles County and never lived any other place, so, get use to me being here. I won't be leaving on a bus, train or any other means.
You are complaining just as much as anyone else, wanting people to leave town just because they don't agree with you, what a laugh.
To Anonymous that said...
Mr. Shirey was right in stating that there were people there who were disrupting and causing trouble.
I have to agree and it's a good thing that the disruptive trouble maker Gonzales is out of there.
What a laugh you are as well my friend. Nobody asked YOU to leave, did they? I simply stated that those who continue griping about those "in power" should run for election next time if they are so unhappy with all these so-called crooks running Giles County. The other option would be of course to hop a bus heading out of town.
I'm only complaining about you complainers. Maybe someday you will have power of your own.
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Well, “my friend” I have the same power as you on this blog. You are still complaining as much as everyone else, so just don’t read the blog if you don’t like what you read. You do have the power to do that, but you couldn't keep complaining if you did that, could you?
We have the picture - the complainer about complaining was hatched here, stuck to the roost & will remain there. If stuck to the roost, obviously cant free both hands to find rear end. wouldn't know what to do with it if he did! Ahhh but it's a executiver of edycatshun a follower of the sheep!
Typical know-it-all condescension. Pitiful!
The sheeple defend the wolf - pitiful!
I think this post written under another topic hits the nail on the head here also!!!!!!!!!!!
lm said...
I just want to tell you this much-I do not like the idea of being forced to pay taxes and than sit back and watch it being wasted while me an my family have to pinch pennies to put food on our table and pay our bills. If we decide to splurge and go somewhere or get something on the spur of the mement than something doesn't get paid. I can't go back and ask my employer for more money and expect to get it, we have to plan and save for anything extra we want. And when it comes down to something we want or something that has to be fixed we don't just patch it we have to fix it and let want we want go.
But yet I see in the news the county government wants this and wants that but the money is not in the budget so what they are going to do is raise taxes-which means more money out of our already slim buget. In other words whenever the county government decides they want or need something that they don't have the money for they take food off my families table.
That is why people complain, it's not just to hear themselves talk, it's not just to whine it's because not everyone can afford more taxes.
lm, EXCELLENT! makes reading this blog worth while - THANKS
lm I agree with you 100%. Our county government needs to learn to manage money better. I have no complaint with the Highway Department and the Sheriff Department. It seems they are trying to live within their budget.
What would have been the response to this thread had it been titles "That Crazy Prankster, Allen Barrett" or one of his intellectual colleagues? Oh, we couldn't have that, could we?
What would have been the response to this thread had it been titled "That Crazy Prankster, Allen Barrett" or one of his intellectual colleagues? Oh, we couldn't have that, could we?
5-41-11 We have another sane & ratonal person in our midst, maybe there ids hope.
Of course, the idiot in charge of pR for corruption has to bless us wuth their dribble. It all becomes tolerable & even enlightening sometimes - thanks to 5-41-11 &lm
if you can't discredit the message, then you attack the messenger. this seems to be approach of some people, although it shows how little some people know.
I've never seen so much hatred in my life. It's ok to smear and ridicule certain people by name and call them crooks, but Heaven forbid should anyone point a finger at the whiners! Why are they exempt from the same kind of treatment?
Well everyone had better be prepared to be at the next meeting Feb 8, it is my understanding Tee Jackson is getting a big raise and an extrension until 2012.
Gilesnews.us will give you a recording of the last full commission meeting. Click on Givernment and give it time to download. Very clear.
Should have said Government. Sorry.
The school board is doing this? I do not know it to be true, but I was told Beverly Murrey is one of the members who is behind this raise-Does someone know if this is true? She ran on the fact that she was going to find a way to oust Tee Jackson and it's just hard to swallow the fact that she would be behind a raise and contract extension since she said before that his earlier extension was inviolation of the law.
This calls for an immediate investigation by the group, wouldn't you think?
February 01, 2007 12:10:35 why would you write the informaion if you don't know if it is true? Shouldn't you just ask the question to get your answer?
February 01, 2007 2:10:25 what group are you referring to?
The same group that continues to malign and smear those they resent or dislike.
How can you malign a malignancy or smear a schmuk. Taxum gonna git to play with the wampum when taxes go up?
Can't you find anything positive in anyone..other than yourself? You ask how you can malign and smear? Well just look at all the posts that do it.
Would it not be great if everyone would be truthful and honest?
I still think he who is perfect should cast the first stone.
Aside from the subject of this post and a couple of his followers, anyone would be hard pressed to find fault worth discussion. There is usually a reason people want to hide bad stuff - because they are part of it!
WOW...what a brilliant deduction!
By the time you see the light, itt'll be too late possum brain - never will make it across the road without gettin run over.
But it will never be too late for people like you to condemn others who have the power you so jealously want. Right?
Possum power - hangin upside down by your tail, lookin at the world thro those beady little eyes - aint no way you gonna git things right side up - No body wanna be like you - cant tell one end from the other.
Oh, that is so typical of the posts made by the whining know-it-alls who desire but have no real power. Therefore, they honk their own horns as often and as loudly as they can to gain some recognition for how smart they are. Those who disagree with them are perceived as stupid, blind, ignorant, etc. They are called names and accused of having no interest in nor regard for truth. Does that pretty much hit the nail on the head? I believe it does.
Sunday, February 04:
Do tell please, what great power do you have or is all in your mind “oh great one?”
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING TIME CHANGED. THE DATE IS THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 8, 6:00 PM. THE PUBLIC AND THE TEACHERS NEED TO PILE IN. IT WAS CHANGED FOR THAT VERY REASON. THE AGENDA IS ABOUT TEE'S CONTRACT (WHICH AN UPDATED ONE HAS APPEARED, WRITTEN UP AND SIGNED JULY, 2006), SCHOOL CALENDAR, TEE'S PAY RAISE, AND THE BEGINNING OF PHASE I ON BOARD BUILDING. BE THERE OR QUIT COMPLAINING.
SORRY WRONG TIME. IT IS 6:30 PM.
ONCE AGAIN 6:30 PM, AGAIN 6:30 PM
Anonymous...
I have NO desire to be in a position of power or to demonstrate to others how smart I am. I'm perfectly happy in my little corner of the world. And that does not mean I am oblivious to what goes on around me. Just thought I would explain that before someone calls me an ostrich or an opossum. Laughable.
Don't you realize that there are dishonest people in all walks of life and not just in Giles County? Further, does it not occur to you that everyone is not as smart as some profess to be?
It must be tiresome to be so negative all the time.
Anonymous you are the one who said they had no interest in whether Mr Barrett was telling the truth or giving facts you just didn't like him. That certainly makes very clear that you have much less concern for the truth or the facts than you do with who happens to present them.
There has been no one on this blog who has shown a more consistantly negative attitude than you have.
Sir you lie, when you say you have no desire to show how smart you are to others. Almost every post you make is a declaration that you are smarter than those dummies trying to tell everybody what's going on.
You are the worse kind of citizen, one who knows little claims to know much, and refuses to learn anything.
How sadly mistaken you are about me, Harry. The only reason I say anything at all on this "free speech" blog is to be a voice against those who are continually on here calling people names and trying their best to destroy them. I have no dog in the race other than that. I (and others)will continue to challenge those who do such mean-spirited things, and that has NOTHING to do with anyone's intelligence, the truth, or with my so-called "negative" attitude. It's the right thing to do as far as I'm concerned. People who malign others should NOT go unchallenged.
As for Mr. Barrett, you are right in that I do not take him to task on whether he is right or wrong. He is entitled to his opinions and ideas just like I am. We all are! As I've said numerous times, my contempt for him is in the WAY he says things and not in what he has to say. That's simple enough to understand. And, by the way, I never said I disliked the man personally. I'm sure he has many fine qualities.
Lastly, you wrongly judge me as a citizen, my friend. The beginning of wisdom occurs when we (applies to everyone) realize that we do NOT know everything. It's the true measure of a man, wouldn't you think? There's not a day goes by that I don't learn from others. If I didn't know and believe these things, I wouldn't be on here writing this to you.
Pointing out one thing that is known and known to be wrong and deceptive is not a know everything proclaimation. When someone continually blows wind that nothing is wrong without bothering to find out is stupid. Blowing wind & knowing the evil is evil.
Who are the evil ones, according to your definition.. I'm stupid, so please enlighten me.
well, who are they? I anxiously await their names.
Oh, and please leave your name with the post.
TO: Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:46:20 PM
If it is true - her running platform was to get Tee Jackson removed-I heard her say from her own mouth what she was going to do to Tee Jackson and with the use of some very colorful words. It seems she has backed off of what was promised to the voters. In a post on another thread she said she can only go by what people are willing to tell her, but when she was running she told people she already had what she needed and she only needed three of the other board members to do what she was promising-TO REMOVE TEE JACKSON! Whers are all her promises now? She is going to vote to extend that contract and give him another raise!
Can't leave my name would cause to much trouble for people I know!
55156 you answered your own question - don't see your name, but expect you know yourself..
Monday, February 05, 2007 10:38:40 AM, are you saying, she is definitely voting for him a raise?
To the mind readers above, you are on the wrong wave length. This is an open invitation to see how I or anyone else votes on the agenda for Thursday, February 8, 2007. Now could this rot, in the above mention about me, come from someone just wanting to see where I stand? Hope to see you and all your partners in crime this Thursday night 6:30 thanks to me for getting the time changed so parents and teachers can come to the board meeting. It was scheduled during the parent/teacher conferences. And by the way I just got a copy of Tee's contract. The new one signed by Gonzales, Norman and Jackson just before the election. How convenient. Bev Murrey
I wrote the post on Monday, February 05, 2007 10:38:40 AM. Sorry I missed typed that last sentence, It should have been a question not a statement. Is she going to vote to extend that contract and give him another raise? I don't know it is just stuff that I have been told, the board meeting will tell the tell who is and who isn't on his side! If they vote to extend his contract and give him a raise we all will know!
Thanks Bev Murray. Way to go girl!
There is a bit of light in the tunnel - hope it's her & not the jackson express commin through with another tax increase
February 06, 2007 6:33:03 AM I will ask you the same question again, why write it if you don't know the truth?
I only wrote the post on Feb. 1, 2007 12:10:35 PM so you have only asked me once, but anyways it was because I wanted to know if anyone else had been told the same thing. I was told by someone who works in county gov. that was what was going to happen and just could not believe that Mrs. Murrey would vote for an extension and raise after all she said when she was running for election! Did that answer your question? That is part of what this blog is for isn't it, to keep others informed of what is coming? You never know until you ask!!!!!!!!!!
To,Tuesday, February 06, 2007 1:17:16 PM
Your first post by your own declaraion,
Anonymous said...
The school board is doing this? I do not know it to be true, but I was told Beverly Murrey is one of the members who is behind this raise-Does someone know if this is true? She ran on the fact that she was going to find a way to oust Tee Jackson and it's just hard to swallow the fact that she would be behind a raise and contract extension since she said before that his earlier extension was inviolation of the law.
Thursday, February 01, 2007 12:10:35 PM
My first question
,
Anonymous said...
February 01, 2007 12:10:35 why would you write the information if you don't know if it is true? Shouldn't you just ask the question to get your answer?
February 01, 2007 2:10:25 what group are you referring to?
Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:46:20 PM
Your second post,
Anonymous said...
I wrote the post on Monday, February 05, 2007 10:38:40 AM. Sorry I missed typed that last sentence, It should have been a question not a statement. Is she going to vote to extend that contract and give him another raise? I don't know it is just stuff that I have been told, the board meeting will tell the tell who is and who isn't on his side! If they vote to extend his contract and give him a raise we all will know!
Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:33:03 AM
My second question,
Anonymous said...
February 06, 2007 6:33:03 AM I will ask you the same question again, why write it if you don't know the truth?
Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:54:05 AM
Hope this clears it up for you.
Ignore 55554 It's an idiot - just learning to talk & type - nothin eles there
i haven't read the blog in a long time...any of the topics... seems to me there is a lot of mud slinging going on-get back to what's real the future of the kids. that is how, will this county bein a few years and is their future bright with t jack. in charge or dim? i know dual enrollment students are having a tuff time meeting college requirements especially @ RHS and if Gov. Bredesen requires and the state passes new mandates some of our school systems will be up the creek without a paddle or a floatation device!
(FIRST)Anonymous said...
The school board is doing this? I do not know it to be true, but I was told Beverly Murrey is one of the members who is behind this raise-Does someone know if this is true? She ran on the fact that she was going to find a way to oust Tee Jackson and it's just hard to swallow the fact that she would be behind a raise and contract extension since she said before that his earlier extension was inviolation of the law.
Thursday, February 01, 2007 12:10:35 PM
(SECOND WROTE TO FIRST)
Anonymous said...
TO: Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:46:20 PM
If it is true - her running platform was to get Tee Jackson removed-I heard her say from her own mouth what she was going to do to Tee Jackson and with the use of some very colorful words. It seems she has backed off of what was promised to the voters. In a post on another thread she said she can only go by what people are willing to tell her, but when she was running she told people she already had what she needed and she only needed three of the other board members to do what she was promising-TO REMOVE TEE JACKSON! Whers are all her promises now? She is going to vote to extend that contract and give him another raise!
Monday, February 05, 2007 10:38:40 AM
(SECOND)Anonymous said...
I wrote the post on Monday, February 05, 2007 10:38:40 AM. Sorry I missed typed that last sentence, It should have been a question not a statement. Is she going to vote to extend that contract and give him another raise? I don't know it is just stuff that I have been told, the board meeting will tell the tell who is and who isn't on his side! If they vote to extend his contract and give him a raise we all will know!
Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:33:03 AM
(FIRST)Anonymous said...
I only wrote the post on Feb. 1, 2007 12:10:35 PM so you have only asked me once, but anyways it was because I wanted to know if anyone else had been told the same thing. I was told by someone who works in county gov. that was what was going to happen and just could not believe that Mrs. Murrey would vote for an extension and raise after all she said when she was running for election! Did that answer your question? That is part of what this blog is for isn't it, to keep others informed of what is coming? You never know until you ask!!!!!!!!!!
Tuesday, February 06, 2007 1:17:16 PM
Looks like these 4 post are written by two people the first one on February 1 by one person, than a rebuttal on February 5 by a 2nd person with a correction on February 6 by the second person and an answer to your question on February 6 by the first person.
You asked the question of two different people assuming it was one person! You know what happens when you assume, don't you?
This is what happens when no one can think of something to call themselves other than anonymous-it's very easy click on Other than type something in the box and than type in the code and you can tell who wrote what!
Sorry, you are wrong.
I do not have the "newest" or "outdated" contract. However, from what I remember, Mr. Jackson is GUARANTEED a raise by his existing contract. That being said, he is going to get a raise no matter what the current board does.
I'll be there, lets see how many turn out for the entertainment.
Beverly Murrey did a lot of big talking when she was running for the school board. She definitely had an agenda. So, Beverly, are you going to put up or shut up. We're waiting to see if your are a woman of your word or just full of hot air!!!
Everyone is griping about Mr. Jackson getting a raise, but the anonymous above is correct that it is guaranteed in his contract. So if everyone wants to be upset with someone, figure out who was on the Board of Education when Mr. Jackson was hired. They are also the same people that did not clarify his contract enough about his "living in" Giles county so that him living in an apartment meets his contract requirements. So don't get upset with all of the Board members that are currently on the Board, because several of them had nothing to do with the problems that they are now stuck with.
Every Giles County School Board gets a 3% quality of living raise every year. The raise that he will be getting is not the 3% alloted every year-I understand it will be a very substantial raise if it goes through. we know it is not all of the board members so when people refer to the board they mean the ones who are backing things that are not right. I believe the meeting tonight will tell us where our board members stand.
Thursday, February 08, 2007 12:57:30 PM…Get off Ms. Murrey’s back she can’t correct things that you want in a few meetings and if you want to know where she stands on an issue, just ask her to her face, she won’t hold back. I personally think she will be happy to tell you what she thinks whether you like it or not.
Get over your personal issue with her.
Mike Young proved himself tonight. He has crawled in the bed with three others on the board. How does he take his in the rear or in the mouth?
Mrs. Murray is a stand up person & the only one to call the big boy down. Thank you!
Was trying to figure out why the evaluation process was based on 1 to 5 with 5 being a water walker. Based on the scores, several can't count past five, & one thought it was 5 & 10 with 5 in the sewer & 10 spaced out.
Being able to watch and hear the meeting is GREAT! Thank you Mr. Barrett for taking the time to provide this service to the citizens of our county who really do want to be informed.
I was not surprised to hear Mr. Lindsey's glowing comment on the central office staff. Given the fact that his own daughter is one of the central office staff.
I was not surprised at Mr. Young's position as his wife is a teacher in our system. What else could he do? Another with a direct conflict.
I was not surprised at Mr. Kennedy's ranking as his wife, daughter and son in law are all employed in the system. Is there no one else who wants to run from that district?
Ms. Houston? Why care when she knew she was going to resign anyway. They tried to make her a scape goat during the school bus deal and she wasn't involved. Guess it shows her class that she didn't try to take revenge in the evalualtion. But, as a voter in her district, a disappointment by her vote to extend the contract. How lame is that!
Greene and Murrey. Every right to be concerned. Thank you for voting no to extend contract. We've allowed Jackson's leash to get too long. And the taxpayers will never be able to buy him out. So Jackson has us exactly where he wants us while he travels back down 65 to spend his large Giles County money with his honey in Athens, AL.
The right to elect the director of schools should never have been taken away from the people!
We have been unfair to Mr. Jackson. Many very negative claims have been made against the school administration. He is the administrator. We have fraud in various official financial documents used to obtain and spend $6.2 million more over the past three years. It is 27.9% more than 2003-4. Administrative salaries are up 45% which is 2.4 times more than teaching. School generated financial information intentionally distorts information, because knowledge means accountability (my opinion). The information is true to my knowledge. No one has disputed the many written spoken statements publicly generated by me.
Mr. Jackson repeatedly witnessed for critically flawed funding requests that clearly misrepresent funding requirements and taxation. (budgets, amendments, and representations as presented during the formal budget approval process with the county commission). I challenge any certified accountant, (CPA, CMA, government, etc) to certify the accuracy and intent of those documents relative to their professional standards, especially content, matching, and disclosure. Several are clearly fraudulent. His office directs and creates those documents. He reports directly to The Giles County School Board. An above average evaluation with a contract extension clearly signals he does exactly what the board majority wants!
The board consists of highly educated people, surrounded by professional educators and endless related resources. Adding, subtracting, and logic are tools of their trade. They have relatively unlimited control over what will be taught to children, and can fail any who do not "believe"! Power and prestige of office mixed with "money" and a premise that more is good, is a recipe for corruption. We have reached the point where open deceit and fraud are procedural tools of financing education! The ethical problem is bypassed by simple denial, pretending nothing is wrong, refusing to address it, and using indignation and anger at any who question high positions of trust. Jackson is a deserving victim of circumstance, by no means alone.
The 2-9-7 Board Meeting illustrates the point. A civil meeting ends ugly, when Mr. Barrett asked to speak for 4 minutes and was refused by majority board vote. During that process, the air was filled with venom and determination to deny Barrett 2 extra minutes! (How dare he ask for 2 minutes of their time!) Barrett questioned Jackson regarding the fact that the school board had requested the arrest of Barrett & Winkles back in 2004. Jackson's answer was eloquent, condescending, and a lie. Barrett handed a copy of what appeared to be the arrest report, to Mrs. Murray, and she read the name, Michael Gonzales. Barrett asked if that was not the board chairman. Jackson changed the discussion to when Barrett's time would run out. Mrs. Norman slammed down the gavel and dismissed the meeting without proper closing procedure. The meeting scattered with absolutely no correction or discussion of a lie by the director of education.
The act of "spin" to confound truth by clever deception is far worse than an outright lie. It is an act to deceive others to believe in the deceiver. The actions of an elected body to defend that lie by outrage and contempt against the deliverer of truth is beyond comprehension in a civilized society. The inappropriate act to shut the meeting down without a vote, showing expressions, statements, and acts of anger at Mr. Barrett clearly demonstrated an out of control board chairperson, determined to bury and condemn truth. We have truly forgotten that the honor of office rests with the office, not those who dishonor it. Education without morality is a curse!
Perhaps, Mrs. Murray and a couple of others can change this deplorable condition.
Don MacDermid
To a perhaps more deplorable situation if they do.
To Anonymous 2-9-07 2:05:22:
Again, you have all the earmarks of M. Gonzales.
It seems present School Board Chairman Kathy Norman has learned very well from her predecessor(Michael Gonzales)the dictatorial ways of conducting a school board meeting. At the end of the 2/8/07 school board meeting's regular business the public was to be given two minutes each to speak. Allen Barrett, who was the first, asked for time to be extended to four minutes as he had several points to make. Mrs. Norman said no, he would get only 2 minutes. When questioned why she had the authority to make that decision solely, she called for a motion (which she got, along with a second) to vote on it. The majority of the school board voted against extending the 2 minute limit. It brings into question what do they have to hide by not wanting to hear from the public.
As Mr. Barrett was getting to the end of his time limit he was quoting from a Statute that says a contract between Director and School Board would be null and void if entered into within 45 days of election of that school board--which was the case here. Apparently Mrs. Norman didn't like what she was hearing so immediately upon expiration of time limit for Mr. Barrett she adjourned the meeting. I approached her after the meeting and told her there was no motion, second and vote to adjourn. She said she didn't need one. I have attended many school board and government meetings in the past few years and never before has the chairman taken that upon himself/herself. (Rules are followed only when it suits her.) Another person told her by doing so she didn't give any of the commissioners or public present a chance to speak. She replied they could get on the agenda. Well, DUH! If people were allowed to get on the agenda the Feb. 10, 2005 arrest and subsequent court trial would never have taken place. By her actions she denied anyone else the right to speak.
If nothing else she at least needs a lesson in Good Manners.
Some people are just smarter than others. They always know best.
It appears Gonzales taught Norman well. Look where it got him. There will be another election, maybe she will be next.
Mike Young senario:wife teaches at Minor Hill. Her boss would give her hell if he had voted other wise, his daughter is at alternative school as teacher, Mrs. Boyd would hang her if she thought Jackson would notice her and Mike's brother was conveniently hired by board of ed. meaning jackson in May to work at maintenance. Kennedy and Young will have to lick and lindsey will too as long as they have emmdiate family to work for Jackson. His Christianity only goes so far.
Mike was the biggest disappointment of the night. He sure had alot of people fooled. Can't trust no-body.
Thank you Greene and Murrey. You rock.
THERE APPEARS TO BE A CLEAR CONFLICT OF INTEREST BY A MAJORITY OF THE VOTING BOARD MEMBERS. THIS SHOULD VOID ANY ACTION THEY HAVE PARTICIPATED IN. THIS SHOULD BE REPORTED TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND ASK FOR THEIR ACTION TO BE SET ASIDE.
Greene and Murrey are playing to the crowd. We were much better off with Gonzales. Greene can go on too! He just wants to be seen.
You people aren't happy with anyone in office, are you? Investigate them all. Perhaps you'll find that they, like you, are merely human beings doing the best they can. But we all know you guys could do much better, don't we?
everybody in the board sux!!!!!you go barrett you da man!!!!!!!
Let's see, you guys hate Mrs. Norman, Mrs. Vanzant, Mr. Jackson, Mr. Gonzales, Mr Young, Mr. Wilburn, Mr. Lindsey, Mr. Kennedy, Ms. McMasters, and anyone else you resent or dislike. But, NOBODY should look at people like "reporter" barrett and his entourage with contempt? That hardly seems fair, does it?
I WOULD PERSONALY LIKE TO VOTE FOR MR BARRETT,I BELIEVE YOU NEED JACKSONS JOB, YOU KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT BUS GARAGE THAN HE DOES, THEY SAY HE WONT EVEN GET OUT OF HIS VEHICLE DOWN THERE UNLESS THERE TAKING PICTURES.
Mrs. Winkles you make some good points. Thanks for your input.
EXCUSE ME BUT I HAVENT SEEN MR WINKLES ON HERE TONIGHT MR JACKSON.
If you want to get rid or a snake, you have to cut its' head off!
Talking about the deceivers' will not change things utill you can do away with them.
Mrs. Vanzant and Mr. Jackson are the two heads that need to be cut off!
Once the voters' do that, things should get better.
Talk to your State Rep. about (1)getting the law changed back to an Elected Director of School (2) take the tax burden off the local county of tax to fund said school system and let the School Board and Director of School be directly accountable to the State who would now be funding them 100%.
I personally like #2 the best.
This would give the voters' more time to consider who they put into the office of County Commissioner and County Mayor.
The later for the past 6-years has been the most needed but both need more attention. From some of the above information it appears the D.A. is working for someone other than the voters'. Everyone remember that next election.
ole smokie
To Flow Winkles.
I hope you now realize you were misled by Mrs. Vanzant and her statements about the Centralized Accounting Office.
She used you and the public as pawns when the State auditor had her backed up against the wall.
Fool you once, shame on her. Fool you twice shame on YOU!
Since then she has slipped into office once more, God help us all!
Hope those that were fooled wake up soon and start posting what she is like so the rest of the Public will be forewarned.
Sheriff office, Ambulance Service, Housekeeping, Property Assessor, School Teachers, Students, Rescue Squad, Road Department are the victims of her actions'.
So, are you blaming Mr. Jackson with the school superintendent's job becoming an appointed position? Or, is that Mrs. Vanzant's fault?
Cuttin off a snakes head,Wow that post was the smartest most inteligent thing that I have read on here yet.Maybe you need to be in charge.
Mr. Winkles,
Don't forget the big lie Norman told on your husband.
That calls for an immediate investigation into Mrs. Norman's private and personal life, wouldn't you think? Surely you guys can dig up some dirt somewhere. We all have it, you know! Even Christ did not claim perfection. Do you?
To Anonymous 2/9 9:49:05:
Call me at 363-8430, I do not understand what you are getting at in your first two sentences.
Never said I was perfect but let Mrs. Norman deny it and I will prove her wrong.
LOOK, LOOK, LOOK, old "investigation" is back after a few days rest!!!
10:00:06 Thats a lot of zeros - appropriate to your message - "zero".
Go back to the first thread & end of school board meeting and watch your "hero" in action! Defending the sanctity of Jackson caught in an incredibly stupid situation of lying, where "Hero-less" knows it's a lie and shuts down a public meeting to try to cover it up! But the flick caught it??? You are a true died in the wool loser! 1 for the cat, 2 rats in the pot.
Mike Young was a big dissapointment for our district. When I voted for him I thought he had enough backbone to help Murrey and Green stop some of the big spending. If something is not done his grandkids will have no telling what kind of taxes when they get grown.
Mike Young is in the vast MAJORITY. His thought process is good, and he doesn't need to put on a show.
Can't you see that it is the ones without a vision who are holding the county back!
2007 3:27:12 Like I said, you better be concerned about covering your own butt.
2:01:55 Taxes will be the least of your worries - the kid will be writing checks on your account, selling the new car to a junk yard, taking out a loan on the homestead, & sending mail from the state pen when he isn't on welefare.
Mrs. Winkles,
Mrs. Norman will display good manners only if she is told to so by Mr.Jackson. At least she has been busy posting today.
If we don't educate our kids properly, then we will be in the poor house, for sure.
Such hatred. Shameful, indeed. We keep pointing that out. But the term only applies to those like me who disagree with people like you.
People like you and people like me? Explain that one for me since you don't have a clue who you are talking about.
The disagreement is about the Ten Commandments - at least several of them - the fact that your hero thinks they are meaningless is more than a disagreement - it violates several laws on the books in this state and country! Hatred is the contempt shown for the person and property of Giles County residents and the impression left on the children these idiots are supposed administer education to.
You know what I mean. I made a very simple statement of fact. Those who point out the hatred and resentment being spewed on this blog are the ones who get accused of it. What an irony!
This is a jackson blog. He is the director of education. That noted in 1083736 are good reasons to make some lives miserable. He is not alone in the corruption that threatens our community. The corruption IS NOT PASSIVE, you either fight to destroy it or it will consume everything we treasure. We are not talking about innocent mistakes here or there. It's million of our tax dollars and the very corrupt impressions that will be seared into the minds of our children! Miserable lives for the miserable - a good plan!
Sorry, this is in reality a Jackson haters blog. Is that not apparent?
It's an education blog - read & learn
Yes, and we are getting a real education on how resentment and jealousy can get out of hand.
The posts in here from the board of education & their supporters speak volumes of astounding arrogance and a complete disregard for the people in this county. I can't believe what I see & hear from people who are supposed to be educated and dedicated to the principles of this country. "Department of education" - what planet? Hitler youth recruiters? A servant demanding their master to bow to them? I want to see some fugures on what they spend. Is teaching really close to last priority? Did they really put all the money on proprty tax so they could get a lot of money nobody knows about?
To Mrs. Flo
You said you did not understand my first two sentences!
Now I understand how she pulled you in. Don't you ever check on something before you support it?
You should!
Go into the State Audit and read more carefully year 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003 & 2004 on County Mayor inability to do her job and present a budget & records that were crediable.
Maybe a before and after picture will clear things up for you.
9:29:07---I asked you to call me coz from the sound of your comment you have things mixed up. If you are talking about my support of the 1981 Act, yes, I support it. I was on the sub-committee assigned by the Budget Chairman, then Charles Greene, to look into the 1981 Act. Mrs. Vanzant didn't support it, she wouldn't sign the Petition. I talked at length with current and former Finance Director of Lincoln Co. (one comparable to ours) and believe this would be good for our county. The key is to get a good, qualified Finance Director for starters.
Flo - need to re-enlighten everyone as to who is on the financial management committee - who has a voice in what happens.
Tee Jackson
The 1981 Act states that the FMC is made up of 7 members--Co. Exec., Hwy. Supt., School Supt. and 4 elected by County Commission. The Giles Co. FMC is made up of Janet Vanzant, Barry Hyatt, Tee Jackson, Ramona Flacy, Connie Howell, Tommy Campbell and Stoney Jackson. Because not all 7 were in support of the Act, the FMC meetings need to be attended and attention paid to actions of this committee. Otherwise, it is possible for actions to be taken that would be detrimental to making this Act work for the county, i.e. sabotaging it. This is not an overnight fix, but over a period of time we'll be better off. Lincoln Co. commissioners who voted against having it in their county are now saying they are glad it was implemented.
To those wondering what this has to do with this Topic, the 1981 Act will hold the school system accountable for our tax dollars.
To the person who seems to think Mrs. Winkles was Vanzant's pawn relating to the Financial Act of 1981:
Agreed Vanzant had lousey annual audits every year. The only "penalty" is a rap on the knuckles and a write-up that the majority of Giles Co citizens don't get to read. Consequently nothing is corrected in the accounting area so the same behavior continues year after year.
Vanzant was and still is opposed to the Financial Management Act but since the citizens of this county voted for it, she and others on the financial committee have no choice but to move forward with the process. Along with Vanzant, Tee Jackson, Barry Hyatt and Tommy Campbell were against financial management (centralized accounting). The other three commissioners currently serving on this committee are Ramona Flacy, Connie Howell and Stoney Jackson. All three have been and continue to be supportive of the Act.
Vanzant had NOTHING to do with the decision to look into the Referendum to put this matter to the voters. Through thorough research it was found to be one of very few matters that could be decided by voters. The handful of folks involved spent many months prepping for August 3rd, 2006. They were ready to submit the petition results at the end of February to the election office but this had time limits on it so the petition was actually filed a few minutes prior to the full Commission meeting in May 2006 at which time the commissioners were to vote on the adoption of the Act. This filing was deliberatly submitted within minutes of that meeting so the commissioners and Vanzant were not aware it had been done.
Vanzant manouvered herself into the position of both Chair and Secretary of the Financial Management Committee. She is dragging out to the extent of the law the process of getting this new office opened. GASB34 has to be completed by June 2008 and this will happen due to the Financial Act. Without this Act in place, GASB34 would have been Vanzant's reponsibility. To date, she has done nothing in that area. You will remember two years ago she tried to get a new position created to do nothing but the GASB34 portion. Fortunately this was squelched by the commissioners.
To reiterate, VANZANT had NOTHING to do
with getting the centralized accounting system adopted in Giles Co. It was the voting public tired of the lack of open accounting and lack of responsibility.
Hopefully you are now reassured that Mrs. Winkles never was nor would she ever be a pawn for Vanzant. If you still think otherwise, please explain.
Flo,
The act will have nothing to do with how much money the school board asks for, nor how much the commissioners appropriate.
8:43:24----agreed. We're looking for "accountability for our tax dollars".
The act, with the right person in charge, will stop the deception & fraud. It can provide information that means something which will help the good commissioners, by making life very interesting for the conflict of interest crowd. Accurate information empowers department heads and the people who want common sense across the board. Just about every other county department has been way down the priority list because of the school board's spending sprees. Remember - kids won't have busses, pencils, books, & will starve if there isn't enough money to build mecca.
Who would the right "person in charge" be? I can only guess it's one of the leaders of truth, justic, and the American Way.
Ahhhh, do we detect a bit o discontent??? "truth, justice, and the American way"??? Scarrry isn't it?
Boogie man gonna git ya & stuff some fece up u knows!
Hilarious.
It will in no way affect the good commissioners, or the conflict of interest crowd. All it will do is provide a central point of information and payment.
The wrong person in charge could lead to huge corruption.
The fix is good, honest, hardworking people-but most voters won't vote for those kind of people because they will not tell them what they want to hear they tell them what they are going to do. Funny isn't it people want honesty in government but lean to voting for deceit because they are told just want they want to hear rather than what can actually be done.
A professional accountant (CPA for example) will not approve or allow deception or manipulated reports, such as current school budgets. Yes, you can find a bad one, but it is rare. Criminal & civil penalties, plus loss of license & privilege to work, are good reasons they meet ethical standards.
Good commissioners AND DIRECTORS will get accurate useful information and reliable advice with funding requests. They will have information that will point to misuse of funds. There will be fixed point in time measurements to point to excessive spending that is hidden by budget manipulation today (schools). That is something they have not received! It will empower them.
That which is good for the good, is bad for the bad. Funding requests will not be submitted with huge omissions of revenue. Funds requested for teaching will not be diverted to administrative boondoggles. They will be disclosed for what they are. A $2.4 million increase will not be published in the paper as a no increase budget! Those who are deceiving will not like being exposed & may actually become productive.
A good financial director is the best tool any director or operating manager will ever find. They can easily find areas of financial opportunity that will improve the efficiency and image of any department. The key to success is central financial control (the director of finance) with decentralized application within the departments, using integrated systems. The director has to be present in the departments they serve. That is, no centralized office, just the director's office, wherever it's convenient. The affects of multitasking, working together, and common objectives will reduce costs and improve output. My guess is, the highway department may be a shining example of good things that can happen. Unless something drastic happens to establish credibility in the school system, I predict total failure. The person hired will have to have full support of the commission, with legal and perhaps state level support. A centralized office filled with clerks who have no idea of departmental operations will be an expensive waste of time. Hopefully, we are not headed in that direction.
It all depends on who is hired. A CPA has a lot to lose if corrupted & that is good - a good decision by the committee. The committee would enjoy visiting a couple of manufacturing facilities to see how they operate. Sanford - Lewisburg used to be a very good operation; Goodman Fayettville (?) - Whirlpool - Lavergne (?) ... Many many places & most will be extremely helpful - been through many plants & hosted people through operations - always informative & inspirational - usually all business & no nonsense good people!
don m
It is not the cure all that you and others are leading others to believe. The school board will continue to try to stay up with the times. (Giles County is aready behind) This will require more money. If the commissioners believe that this is the right thing to do (and it is) then this will not help you in your fight.
My guess is, the ones who are opposed to the financial management, are either afraid for their job or afraid of being exposed. The majority of voters have already spoken. Therefore all our elected officials should support it, if they realy want to do the will of the majority.
Of special interest is the, Thurs. 15th post under the topic PROBLEMS AT RICHLAND HIGH SCHOOL.
Comments of having to spend more money to implement the financial management system tells me we are seriously lacking in vision and knowledge of incredible savings potential. You need to get people working together, helping each other, wherever the action is occurring - not in some posh building filled with theory & no common sense. The most productive tactic I recall is taking implementation committees to highly competitive and successful businesses - tours. We are government & not a competitive threat - most will welcome visitors, & almost all will offer help. Trust me, you will never think in the same terms again. Brick wall will be fun things to climb. Remember a business entity must be competitive, efficient, and serve their customer best, or fail. All government has to do is raise taxes - what a downer! Government can do anything business does if they get fired up & fire the very, very few who will not! Nothing can be more fun than winning, turning a loser into a winner, knowing you are accomplishing something..
don m
Anonymous Feb 16, 12:17 pm
Don M is not claiming a "cure all" and everyone knows over the years the schools will require more money. Perhaps you should re-read Don M's posting and better understand what he says.
Jackson is sitting back and letting others defend him and spend their tax dollars, while he pays his taxes in Alabama. That shows how intelligent his defenders are.
And your post shows how full of hate and resentment those like you are. Think about it.
Don m talks about people should work together. What a joke. He is one of those sewing discord and distrust. He needs to get over having his feelings hurt.
And I think we have had sufficient "exposing" (of rear ends) to last us a good while.
Yes I am full of hate. Hate that I have to pay so much tax. My husband and I have worked hard all our life without any government help. We are now on a fixed income and our taxes are as high as our combined salary was when we went into the workforce.
100418 Sounds like you're one of those feeling the heat of distrust by others, seeing your corrupt group disintegrate, & looking over your shoulders. You've earned it. Don't recall seeing any factual rebuttal or denials, just a lot of wimpering about honest people making waves in your little mud puddle. The power you see in corruption will bring you to heel.
Well, who are you going to blame your high taxes on....Bush, Jackson, Norman, or the county commission? Remember, it was william jefferson blythe clinton who got into your pockets. And guess what democrats like john edwards and nancy pelosi propose? They want to roll back the Bush tax cuts and then tax you again? Won't that be fun?
But, let's just blame it on Tee Jackson and Kathy Norman. Would that seem more palatable?
February 17, 2007 10:54:42 AM of course taxes will need to be raised to pay for the needless war that Bush got us into and that debt will have to be paid by guess who???????????
Well, when the democrats succeed in their "cut and run" policy, two things will sadly become evident. First, all the soldiers who died over there will have died in vain. Second, we will be fighting terrorism here in our own country. What will you say when the next 9-11 comes along? I'm sure you will blame that on President Bush as well. Please try to remember that these peole are determined to kill you and me and our families if they get the chance. That is a very sobering thought, isn't it?
One more thing. I'm fairly certain that Mr. Barrett would agree with my post about terrorism. Wouldn't you, Mr. Barrett?
What does Iraq have to do with terrorism. We went to Afghaninstan to find Osama Bin Laden. Then we decided to go to Iraq? What's up with that? And what exactly does finish the job mean?
53257 - you need to go back to the koolaid stand - last drink wasn't enough
When you start reading a blog it starts out with reference to the topic. Then somewhere along the line it strays completely out of the county and state to the Federal Government. There's only one person who is ask a question and can get off on something totally different and the people go along with it.....Tee Jackson. Tee are you reading this blog?
To, Saturday, February 17, 2007 4:20:45 PM
I am with you on fighting terrorism, however I think we should have concentrated on Afghanistan and took care of all the Taliban and Osama first. Iraq was not a treat to us and they didn’t cause 9-11.
What does Iraq have to do with terrorism? You don't know? Oh, come on. You are joking, right?
The Iraqi government hanged one of its greatest terrorists recently. His name was Hussein. It was all over the news.
As for Osama, what would you suggest we do to find him? Remember, he was offered to Bill Clinton many years ago.
If we are not going to quit in Iraq until the job is finished, why would we stop in Afghanistan?
Answer that one, Mr. Know it
All.
Just so you will know, I voted for Mr. Bush both times.
Glad to hear that you voted twice for President Bush. But now you don't support him? Wow!
WHO told you we were going to quit in Afghanistan anyhow? Could it be that those people are able to defend themselves now? Could it be that intelligence might find Osama in Pakistan or Syria?
You call me a know-it-all. I am simply asking questions, which is a good sign that I am seeking answers. Right?
Right! I'll do better next time!
This is a great forum for asking questions, because there are those enlightened few here who have all the answers. Light-hearted humor there.
Feb 19 11:29 might think they have a sense of humor but they are wrong. Some raise a question and someone else who has put a bunch of time into finding answers, takes further time to answer the question. What has the one who thinks he/she is contributing "light-hearted humor" done? Nothing!
Oh, but I have. I've been a voice (not the only one)against the hate-mongering few who dominate this blog. That's quite a feat, wouldn't you think?
Do you see yourself as being among the majority or the complaining minority?
Neither
We got it - you love corruption & defend it. You hate anyone who doesn't love corruption because you think they see you for what you are (corrupt)! Don't hate you, just going to run you off so you can make someone else's life miserable.
You threaten people who disagree with you? That takes some nerve.
Anyhow, I don't plan on going anywhere. I have a right to speak my mind and will continue to do so.
It's like spitting at a whiffle in a wind storm -
Flo and Mrs. Winkles.
Our last County Attorney resigned!
Ever ask why?
He advised her on numerous items that were against State law or highly questionable, but she did it her way!
The State Auditors after three years of writing her up, gave her the directive! Either going to Centerlized Bookkeeping or they would turn it her case over to the D.A., now that is the facts!
That same week she not only was on WKSR anounceing to public, this was something new the State was requiring the county to do. I'm not sure, but I think she also put it in the paper that week. You can check the records at the station and you old newspapers.
Now, where do you think this great idea of Central Budget Director came from?
It was from: State Audit, State Audit, State Audit of Mrs. Vanzants records while in her first term. No other office holder was in question!
It wasn't an original thought of yours or anyone else. She planted the idea by the local news media,
but you think you haven't been used! Don't feel to bad, there were many, many others that got scammed also, look at how many voted for it and never checked any records or with the State Auditors Office as to why it came about. Check on the date of her interview on the radio, then check with your date of supporting the idea and petition.
And for the three people you refered to as against it, the first two are actors, it was to her advantage and he could care less, (actors id the kindest word I can use) Mr. Hyatt and Mr. Campbell knew that is will not save the tax payers or the county as they say, one dime. I will cost more then it is worth and the school deals will not change.
Let me know what you think afterwards, if this thing comes to be and you find out the School Director still is not accountable to anyone, including your New Appointed Financial Director.
Latest figures I've heard on the salary of this position will make it the second highest paid in Giles County Government, right below the School Director.
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