How About More Respect For Our National Flag
The United States Code Title 4 Chapter 1 — The Flag --- Section eight states in part, "The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing." United States Code Title 36 §301. National anthem; Star-Spangled Banner
a.The composition consisting of the words and music known as The Star-Spangled Banner is designated the national anthem of the United States of America.
b.Conduct during playing — During rendition of the national anthem—
1.when the flag is displayed —
A.all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart;
B.men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold the headdress at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
C.individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note; and
2.When the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.
In 2008 an amendment was made to this protocol that gave military veterans not in uniform the option to stand at attention and render the hand salute.
It is with a deep sadness that I watched so many, especially young people, show a lack of respect for our flag and anthem during the opening ceremonies for the Motocross event at the fair. Unfortunately this same kind of disrespect is often shown at other events as well. With the beginning of high school football season there will be opportunities to show a proper respect to our flag and anthem, I would challenge each school to intensify their efforts to educate all about the proper way to behave during the National Anthem and anytime the National Flag is passing or being hoisted or lowered. Allen Barrett
a.The composition consisting of the words and music known as The Star-Spangled Banner is designated the national anthem of the United States of America.
b.Conduct during playing — During rendition of the national anthem—
1.when the flag is displayed —
A.all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart;
B.men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold the headdress at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
C.individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note; and
2.When the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.
In 2008 an amendment was made to this protocol that gave military veterans not in uniform the option to stand at attention and render the hand salute.
It is with a deep sadness that I watched so many, especially young people, show a lack of respect for our flag and anthem during the opening ceremonies for the Motocross event at the fair. Unfortunately this same kind of disrespect is often shown at other events as well. With the beginning of high school football season there will be opportunities to show a proper respect to our flag and anthem, I would challenge each school to intensify their efforts to educate all about the proper way to behave during the National Anthem and anytime the National Flag is passing or being hoisted or lowered. Allen Barrett
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When people do not have respect for 1)themselves, 2)their parents, grandparents, etc., 3) persons of authority, 4)God and the Church, and the list could go on and on, how can we expect them to respect the flag and the National Anthem? While schools can continue the emphasis that the only way to truly instill these values is by the parents. People state that the country has gone down since prayer was taken out of school. I believe that values deteriorate when we take God out of the home. But that being said, I agree that more respect should be shown toward the flag and National Anthem.
The National Anthem is less than two minutes long why is it so hard for some to be respectful by simply standing quietly with their hats off and hand over their heart during that short time. I think for many it's a matter of ignorance, for others thoughtlessness and some plain lack of self respect & national respect. The sad thing is many of these are adults.
Patriotism needs to be taught at home and in school. God and the nation have been left out far too long.
Schools should not have to teach respect. That starts at home where respect for parents, other adults, authority and all else should occur. When the schools and its teachers try to teach these values and respect, they are frowned upon and told that their values are not those of the parents. I ask, whose job is it? Where should these things be taught? I know, but I'm going to wait on some responses.
When God (morality, etc.) and country (A Constitution inspired by God) return to government and the government schools, public education will have the knowledge, tools, and ability to enforce and teach (where necessary) real values for a real education! Until then, chaos, pillage, and ignorance will rule!
God loves all of His children, but he doesn't make them with equal abilities, dexterity, IQ, looks, or anything else! He expects us to understand our weakness and strength to succeed and do His will. Pretense without truth means corruption and incompetence will lead and rule.
Our schools started sliding into the toilet when they (liberals) dismissed God and put Christ on permanent suspension. Teachers have the job of teaching character traits to children simply because many parents won't do it. These days it's not at all uncommon for a kid to sass his teacher and refuse to obey instruction. That's usually the one who is on the "no paddle" list.
We talked a lot in the past about getting back to basics in education. Is that still important? YES! Teachers need to start busting some rear ends and making kids mind. If they can't, they are expelled along with God and the Lord!
I think teachers are leaving the profession largely because of problems with students....which begins at home.
To 8:59 you say "Schools should not have to teach respect. That starts at home where respect for parents, other adults, authority and all else should occur."
So would you agree that schools should not be teaching "sex education"? The point is sex miseducation was pushed by the liberals as the only way kids could learn about it. Respect should be taught everywhere but schools seem to be lagging way behind to the endangerment of teachers. The only way respect will ever be taught in school will be when it's made a part of the TCAP. I fear the once noble profession of teaching has become the sanctuary of union protected liberal fools and charlatans.
The sad part is that if we allow prayer in school we must allow prayer from all religions. We must allow the devil worshipers to be able to pray to the devil. I would not want that. I am a Christian and I definitely believe in prayer. The teachers can allow a moment of silence every morning for students to say their prayers silently. There are equal rights for everyone. Do you want your children to be exposed to prayers to other "Gods". By a moment of silence children can pray whether they are Christian, Muslim, Budhists or Devil Worshipers, those are the law whether we like it or not.
You talk about law. What is stated in The Holy Bible is the Supreme Law of the Land in my book. So, doesn't this mean there is only one God?
1:01
Agreed, but we have become so politically correct and fearful of trial lawyers in this country that we are afraid of offending anyone.
for those of you who are not in the schools on a daily basis, I can assure you there is a lot of prayer going on. Teachers pray daily for patience. Students pray for help with the test before them. Prayer will never leave the schools until the last human has walked out the door. How do I know? Because I pray each day during our "moment of silence" after we have all stood, hand over heart, and recited the pledge of alligience. Yes, our students know proper behavior and respect for our flag. But, what happens after they walk out the door, only the student and God knows.
Enforcing the supreme law has never involved prayer or belief. Precedence was established sometime near the beginning of man & set in concrete in Biblical times. You don't have to believe in God. Our problem is people who don't believe in God's laws or man's laws - (both have precedence to the beginning of the USA!) The result is "organized chaos" with equal portions of lawlessness!
The fact that our right to pray contains no right to force others to pray has nothing to do with following the laws and forcing others to follow the laws! Why are the people who are supposed to be keepers of knowledge fail to understand and uphold the laws?
Our Constitution is specifically founded on the Bible. It takes a formal Amendment to change it. Words have meanings - why do we let them be perverted? Have we changed from a society that will fight to protect our Constitution, to a society that won't even vouch for it?
How can our future generations be educated to the point of knowing one end from the other, if the education system has no legs?
If the Constitution was founded on the Bible why is there no mention of God, Jesus, or any other religious reference?
Maybe 9:26 you need to read the Consitution. Starting with the Preamble.
Melanie
Melanie is right 9:26. Talk about opening your mouth and inserting your foot! What a laugh! Now I see what kind of idiots we are really arguing with on here. Thanks for the laugh 9:26, I really needed a good one!
Finally, something I can sink my teeth into. First, 10:07 Melanie, unfortunately, you are incorrect. The Constitution may have been founded on the Bible, but it is not mentioned in the Preamble, or any other place that I could see, and yes, I did read it. The preamble goes as follows, "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." However, this thread is about respect for the flag. I retired from the military after 25 years of service. I am not one for political correctness and I think it ridiculous the things people get offended over. After saying this, I get offended at various events that occur around this county, state, and country. Sticking here in Giles County, I have seen at schools and sporting events, so many people who leave their hats on, talk and just flat out show no respect for our flag and thereby our country. This offends me to no end. I have travelled halfway around the world and back, and when I have been in other countries, I am respectful. If I hear their anthem being played, I have the common courtesy to stand and show respect. Why do people in our own country not have that same common courtesy? Please folks, what is the matter here? Are you worried that your hair will be messed up? Don't worry, everyone else is looking at the flag, not you. Believe me though, if you leave your hat on, there is a veteran, a caring citizen or just someone who knows, that will see you. I hope that you will then hear about it. Oh well, I guess common courtesy is not so common anymore. God Bless America. Thank you Mr. Barrett for giving us this thread to chew on.
Melanie,
I must be really stupid because I look at the whole Constitution and couldn't find it. Now the Declaration of Independence states that "they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights" and that is the only time God is mentioned. But of course being that you are so much smarter than I you know that the D of I is not the Constitution and thereby is not the supreme law of the land.
I am also wondering where in the Bible is a bicameral legislation described? Is the office of president described in the New or Old Testaments? It would seem to me that if the founding fathers meant to create a theocracy based on the Christian Bible then they would have made specific mention of Christ or at least God in the Constitution, but of course I am an idiot. I humbly submit these questions to my intellectual superiors like Melanie and the anonymous poster at 1:25 am.
Don't recall anyone even mentioning a theocracy - that doesn't change the fact that individual freedom can not stand without the essential inspiration and source of Christianity. That is recognized in the First Amendment - "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof' or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of agreements."
What aspects of free exercise, speech, print, or peaceful assemby has not been perverted and denied by our liberalized government? Look at the chaos & suffering that causes!
Freedom contains rights to remove yourself, avoid, ignore, do your thing, but doesn't include muzzling, blocking, or denying someone else's free peaceable expressions. Of course, The Fouth Amendment protects citizens privacy within their legal posessions; but public property is not private property!
Christianity basically says you can believe and follow or take the other extreme & go to hell! Our laws (based on the Bible & faith) provide various penalties & provisions. Muslim's have no free will - it's follow or die!
The Christian & Biblical (Judaic? - judge? - justice?) roots of our Constitution & law are obvious in countless documents & papers. The current cancer of liberalism is destroying our fabric of freedom and the result will be oppression and chaos.
Believe what you will - it's God's will! It's freedom!
I read everyone here calling themselves christians but how can anyone be a christian when they are judging others and even putting down parents as if all you are perfect parents yourself. No one is perfect here on this earth. The bickering back and forth and blaming others is not solving issues discussed. As with anything, myself included, everyone has opinions and ideas as to the way things are supposed to be. But I guess blaming is the way most, on this blog, think issues are solved. Taking action trying to recruit others to solve not blame or put others down may help. Working together. Has anyone ever thought of this.
Please tell me how do you think we can work together to teach children how to show respect for others without the help of their parents. You go and try to take action on someone else's children and see what you get. Half the time you will be told to butt out they don't need your help-either by the parent or the child theirself. IT ALL STARTS AT HOME, PERIOD!
I never said that it didn't start at home but if you approach the child and parent in a negative way the way you just posted the last sentence of your blog you will get no where. When you speak of taking action on someone else's child I am not quite sure what you were meaning but if you were to approach the child or the parent in an offending manner you get no where. If someone were to approach me as if their way was better than mine in raising a child that is how i would feel. As i said blame, judging, and looking down on others because they are different gets nobody any where.
Until we can identify a problem and take a reasonable approach to solve it, the situation gets worse, not better.
Humans have been reproducing and learning something since the beginning of time. Progress was extremely good until the 60's, when the new generation learned you didn't have to learn, think, or be moral to live a self interest life all financed by someone who still wanted to learn and be productive. For the first time, someone could lay in the road and stop traffic without getting run over by someone with a brain. Since then, education has focused on self indulgence and de-construction (a new Obama word meaning the same as destruction as applied to the economy, morality, and freedometry!
1208 - three things are out of context. "Judging" should be viewed as discerning (identifying what's destroying education).
"Looking down" would be more appropriately called disgusted enough to stop destructive behavior (one child bringing the lessons to a halt).
"Different" is a misnomer for destructive. Everyone is different, literally. Few are truly destructive. The real chore is finding someone in the education system from top to bottom who will remove the destructive acts, element, person, etc. & get back to teaching & learning!
Older folks call it dealing with the problem. Reward & punishment works - BS fails! Not getting punished when not doing anything bad works good too. Idiots today believe you have to praise someone for average effort & results! Spending more money results in more liberals indoctrinating more good people to be "tolerant" &fail while praising bad people that it's OK to be different and steal the opportunity to learn from everyone else!
We're being educated by a system run by liberal idiots! Hopefully no one will be offended by that fact & we can successfully change the vision of the word failure to mean everyone is on the same page & working like mad to deconstruct everything our greedy forefathers gave us, including their lives!
Wow 2:21, you hit the nail square on the head!!!! Finally someone with a little sence has spoken.
I love when people think they are so smart and then misspell a simple word like SENSE. How about calling this guy an idiot?
8:34 on Sunday--You are a DA. You were probably one of those students giving teachers a hard time and now you tell you children they don't have to listen to a teacher because he/she is a charlatan or a fool. YOU need to look in the mirror at the FOOL looking at YOU!
There is no need to argue about who is the biggest fool. The taxpayer is fooled out of more money to finance waste & bureaucracy. Teachers are fooled into accepting no raise while a flood of money is wasted on bureaucracy. Parents are fooled into believing their child is being educated. Teachers are fooled into believing they can teach amidst chaos, be "professional" yet follow minute idiotic detail instructions from bureaucrats with an empty mind, etc., etc., etc. Of course, the union is there to make sure fools pay their dues & goose step for food stamps.
START WRITING IN THE PAPER & HERE! FOCUS ON THE PROBLEM & WORK TO ELIMINATE IT ALONG WITH THOSE WHO BELIEVE ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE AS LONG AS IT FEEDS THE BLOAT! One might say it begins with the BOE that the director reports to. (true) However, how can the state BOE not be the mastermind of the perpetual motion machine that converts highly educated people into "fools", like maybe you, me, and many more?
I don't consider myself a fool like you and I am sure teachers don't appreciate being called fools on here either. You are still a DA.
Maybe the chief negotiator of the GCEA can qualify as one of those mentioned earlier. She has already proven herself a real leader.
This blog has become as the others just a name calling bashing session and still no resolution to any problems. Everyone still playing the blame game. Guess the school system will never get some help from people like this.
932 What part of the game can you understand? Can you name anything that was improved or created that wasn't based on challenging status quo & regimentation? An organization that is founded on "can't", never will accomplish anything. Obviously countless good people work in the public education mud pit. If you fathom the countless times teachers say we can't do the right thing, "because" ... is always the organizational structure & bureaucratic oath that no dollar will be left unspent ... for any ridiculous reason!
Being made a fool by someone else should make any rational person mad. I'm not going to remain a fool! When you come back to demand more tax money to continue this insanity, I'm going to make you wish you had a big block of ice to sit one. The people I know are as fed up as I am. Some of you are so steeped in liberalism & political correctness that failue is predictable!
I worked in highly competitive industries where the basis was "CAN". The teeth were in the fact that you "can" do it or boss and customer "can" hire someone else or buy another product! Whenever there wasn't enough money, you either figured out a better and more profitable way or everyone went home jobless! I never owned a job - always earned it just like most of the people in this country.
We have teachers posting here who write like they have what it takes to make education work. That will never happen as long as fear, political correctness, and flower child peer pressure prevails.
What do you want us to say, "You're the best failure in the world", a "YOU" day, & pin a big blue ribbon on you? Ever wonder why a rock doesn't move? Because it's there?
So, how many of you bleaters and harmonisers are making input to the proposed new Giles County charter ? THAT is the best way to change the way Giles Co is run .
Dont sit on your hinie doing a whiney, make your ideas heard .
If nowhere else , express them here so Mr. Barret can forward them to whoever is going to write that charter
It has been asked of our local ministerial board to try to get religion back into the schools. But, if we put the believes of Baptist, Methodist, Church of Christ, Presbyterian, Episcoble and Catholic back in the schools, we have to now allow satanic worshipping, and muslim along with any other that we don't want in our schools.
At least we can pledge the flag. Once I saw an India, Indian lay our flag on the ground, I screamed at him to pick it up and show respect, and he did but I doubt if he really knew what I really was upset about. Our flag is so important to our country and so many young people don't realize what it means.
How many child molesters can the Giles County School System possibly hire
This has gotten ridiculous. This is an issue that affects us all, and no one is taking this seriously. We have people who not only disrespect our flag, but also our national anthem, and our country. None of us are perfect, either as parents, or as citizens. However a little respect at home is a good starting place, and then maybe it will spread. We need to try and respect each other, and maybe the respect will spread. I guess the best way to say it is, a little SELF-RESPECT goes a long way. Lets try that for awhile. This thread has degenerated from something that is imprtant, to something almost malignant. Please try to keep this thread right.
Tomorrow night will be a dedication of Sam Davis Park and one of the largest crowds that will gather there this year. There will be much ceremony. Last year as the unfurled flag was brought into the stadium there were less than a dozen people who stood in the section where I was.
Granted many were busy talking and not paying attention as there was no music or announcement that accompanied that entrance.
Tonight I challenge the announcers or Band to draw attention to the flag as it enters and for every male to stand at attention with their hats removed in their right hand and placed over their hearts or rendering a proper hand salute if a military veteran or on active duty and that every female would stand at attention with their right hand over their heart or render a proper hand salute if a military veteran or on active duty. Show your pride and self-respect, pride and respect for those who sacrificed to save and preserve our nation. It is our nation and worthy of our respect. Allen Barrett
12:27
Are you accusing a Giles County Schools employee of being a child molester? I would be very careful about making a specific accusation.
I agree with that. If it is someone who really wants to push it, you CAN be identified!
Don't push your luck on such a defaming statement.
When a school employee is hired they are finger printed and prints sent to the TBI & FBI. If anyone is a child molester they will be dismissed. Someone can be accused of any crime but if there is no conviction of a crime, it does not count. If there is a child molester it should be brought before the law so that the world will know and beware.
In my memory, at school was where I learned the show of respect for the flag. I believe that is where the majority of us learned it. But, if there are adults not showing respect during this time, I find it appalling. Are teachers not teaching this anymore? Maybe they don't know the proper conduct to display during this show of respect. Regardless, it is a pitiful shame. Our freedom did not come free but I guess they aren't teaching that in school anymore.
Come on respect should be taught at home first and foremost-teachers should ONLY have to reinforce good behavior taught by parents! If children are taught from birth how to act appropriately it's not easily forgotten. You can't just pass your children off to someone else to raise-Teachers are there to teach our children to read, write and add. When did parents start thinking they were suppose to teach children manners that aren't taught at home?
Excuse me sir/madam, you misunderstood my post. If you had opened your mind and not raced through my post perhaps you could have interepreted better what I was trying to say. I take it I offended you in some way? Perhaps you are an educator? The pledge of allegiance and our flag our introduced to our children when the begin their education. I never said respect or manners "in general". In general manners and respect should be taught by parents from the home and "yes sir/ma'am", thank you, please, may I, your welcome, etc., etc. and reinforced by our educators. I think is very safe to assume that all your deducted from my post was, "at school was where I learned the show of respect" and "Are teachers not teaching this anymore?" Too bad your thinking is so shallow.
731 chill out, no one was trying to put you down or even disagree
Yes you say that now 8:47 that I have clarified myself. I don't appreciate the fact that someone jumps to a conclusion without properly reading my post. If anyone should chill out it should be the 3:26 poster. This one of the major problems with adult communication these days. Some people automatically want to pounce on someone in an effort to defend. Like I said if my post had been properly read and avoided jumping to conclusions this debate would not be taking place. Also, I fail to see where you mean that the 3:26 poster was not disagreeing. I am not an idiot. I read exactly what they posted. Again, it seems the error is on their behalf for skimming through my post and picking out what they wanted to hear and now they probably have realized that. I have a right as well to offer my opinion as well as a rebuttal to their response and for you to assert I should chill out is offensive in and of itself. I am perfectly chilled thank you. I just ask that people read what people are posting and not what they may read between the lines or want to believe.
I agree respect should be taught at home and the teachers should reinforce it.
It's sad to say there are some children growing up without being taught respect or manners at home.
That leaves it to teachers.
Where when I was in school the teachers had time to teach us the extra things. Now the government wants them to keep a record of everything they do, then the time for the extra things are lost.
That is so sad, because a teacher can get things over to a child sometimes a parent can't.
I've just read the posts above and I'm not either one of them, just stating my thoughts.
148 I was neither one of the posters you apparently feel were stepping on your toes. Chill out & take a deep breath - I see three different positive statements (your first one included).
If I had a child in school, I would pull them out if the education mafia attempted to teach them morality or values. Simply stated, the bureaucracy is perverted and corrupt (not individual teachers may be model citizens for anyone). It begins with no respect for God, country, and fellow man, with extra measures of no self respect for student souls, bodies, or minds. (sex education, homosexuality, promiscuity, wholesale deception when it comes to finance and accomplishment, and zero differention in capability assessment (everyone is a winner at everything except learning).
At the same time, I expect teachers to enfore the law & morailty as defined by God and recorded by our forefathers - no of which requires belief, just simple blind compliance to eliminate chaos.
Yes teachers are keeping stupid records to feed the bureaucracy - leaving no time teach. If teachers can't discpline, there will be no discipline or respect. All we hear is what can't be done because the perpetual motion machine won't allow it. We have an organization filled with fine minds that are turned off and numbed by liberalism. Unbind them - turn them loose - demand what they can do! Fire those who won't!
We have a director who lies for money, cheats to create favorable performance reviews, and lies just for the hell of it. What can we expect! Best chaos ever? There are scrap books filled with news articles, financial documents, and more - better dig it up before someone gets themselves over their head liable for filing frivolous law suits.
I see bits and pieces of great comments that are pertinent and can change things for the better. Stir the teachers up, crank up their minds, & let the steam roller roll.
Don't get mad, chill out. Smile & you'll make a positive difference, seriously.
Why would you pull your child out of school if he/sh were being taught things like honesty, integrity, self-respect, etc? I do not understand that reasoning at all.
It's not honesty, integrity, self-respect that's being taught it's sex, drugs and anything goes.
Education worth having was left behind. Kids aren't taught to think for themselves but to check a computer and learn how to pass a test. Teachers and parents are responsible for allowing this to happen.
8:36, Your last statement is most inaccurate! Teachers have never been allowed to "let anything" happen. We have no choice about what is to be taught or even how it is taught. When education policy is set, there is absolutely NO evidence that active teachers are consulted or if they are consulted for appearances sake, their input is totally disregarded. I agree that children cannot think for themselves and in my little part of the system, I constantly TRY to create learning situations that will force them to think. I am swimming upstream, though due to policy, time, and most importantly, the almighty test. I heard the frustration of a parent in a previous post regarding the rapid pace of introducing new material before students have mastered the previous skill. Dear supportive parent, I AGREE WITH YOU. Please, however remove the blame from the teacher's backs (as we are already held accountable for things we cannot possibly control) and place it on the folks that have the authority to fix the system. We have NO choice but to basically "teach the test" and the uselessness of this ULTIMATE measurement of teacher competence and student achievement is becoming more and more evident.
I'm trying!
teacher
Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:48:00 AM- I read your post and did not jump to any conclusion-my parents taught me respect for the flag before I started school and the teachers reinforced what I had been taught. You see when we as a family would go to any kind of public event and a prayer was said, the Flag was raised and the National Anthem played my parents would bow their heads for the prayer then stand and face the flag, my father would than salute and my mother would place her hand over her heart. So I learned from my parents the proper show of respect for our Flag-not from a teacher.
No you did not offend me, I'm sorry if I did you. I am not a teacher, I just get tired of parents pushing off their responsibilites on someone who is trying to teach 30 children per period stuff that should be taught at home.
To 9:59 While I appreciate your efforts and your frustration at dealing with the system and its brokenness I believe that when a person sees something wrong and makes no serious attempt to change it they then become responsible in part for its continued existence.
Teachers pay dues to unions that do not represent their best interest, they support their supervisors in things they know are counter productive, and they tend to give up rather than fight nobly against what they clearly know is wrong or not in the best interest of the student.
I have not posted here in a long time because of some of the reactions posters have to various matters. I get so disappointed when teachers are blamed for so many ofthe misfortunes of society. Teachers try so hard to make a difference in the classroom. I know that there are some who don't put forth the effort that most do, but there are doctors, lawyers and preachers that make that category - right. I have said before, if you don't know what happens in a school on a daily basis, YOU have no standing to discuss the issues of schools and teachers.
One person mentioned that teachers pay dues to a union. Unions are allowed to strike. Teachers in Tennessee except for Nashville and Memphis cannot go on strike.
If you worked on a daily basis and your efforts were not apperciated by people, how would it make you feel. Teaching is hard enough without having undue criticism on a daily basis shoved at you by uninformed people who want to gripe about everything.
We all have ups and down in our chosen profession. The gripes and complaints I constantly hear from teachers due to pay, long hours, no respect from students and parents etc., etc. all comes with the job. They knew some of this prior to their education to become an educator. We all would like to be better respected for a job well done. Educators are not the only ones putting in long hours daily and being available to those who need us after our work hours end. And as for the conditions and environment of our schools and the burn out from teachers who should retire when they see they are no longer happy in their profession reflects daily on the students. Not all parents have a problem child. But, some parents have experienced less than professional treatment towards our children than should be expected from adults we entrust with them for the greater part of their day. It is an equal partnership when it comes to education. Parents teach their children right from wrong and proper manners, have them to school on time with all the supplies and homework requested of them and still sometimes they are met with a grumpy teacher who woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Well, we all are entitled to a bad day once in a while. However,we should be cautious of how it affects others. I make no excuses for ANYONE! So, when a parent has a complaint and voices it on this blog, you need to be mindful that like I said earlier, we don't all have bad kids who disrupt and disrespect. Sometimes the good kids get the shaft with the bad ones. If you don't want for us parents to label all teachers the same, I think it is fair to ask that you educators do the same with your students and parents.We do have problems in our school system and I hear more complaints from the faculty and other employees than I actually do from parents. Some parents do know what is going on because our children communicate with us. Not all of our children are unaccounted for after school and until all hours on a school night.
8:10---Go volunteer at your child's school or any school for about a week or two. Let's see what complaints you come back with after your community service at a school.
I challenge any of you to volunteer or substitute as a teacher for a while. It's easy to sit back and "listen" to what your child comes home and tells. Never mind the perception may be biased or incorrect.
Bitter aren't we 9:21? You mean to tell me that there are no drugs or alcohol in some of the schools? Sex really is not being had in hidden unmonitored areas? Gee, I find it perplexing that a child would just volunteer such information if it wasn't going on. Just ask our local law enforcement. How many times do students get caught breaking the zero tolerance rule only to be let right back in the school? No, of course not, everyone shedding the negative light on an uncontrolled situation is lying. Teachers are afraid of students. Afraid to come out of their classrooms because they are terrified. One teacher actually told my child that if they (the student)was in the lavatory and the school went on locked down that she would not be letting anyone in her class that was out of class because she had to protect herself because she had a son to raise. Yeah, that is real admirable isn't it? Would you like me to go on because there is more where that came from?? But,no I guess not because you portray in your post there are no problems. Am I correct or did I misunderstand you? When my child is left on the schoolhouse steps their welfare becomes the responsibility of the Giles County School System. If teachers feel so afraid, imagine how the children feel? My child begged to not have to attend that school. If the faculty are fearful, it is their obligation to inform parents and any authority willing to correct this unhealthy environment. We can't all afford to truck our kids off to a private school and why should we have to when our taxes are paying the salaries of all employees of the school system? It goes without saying that you are in denial if you think these problems don't exist. My question is if we can't get our board members and director to take the initiative to make this as the motto goes, "Academic Excellence In A Wholesome Environment", I guess the news media would certainly be interested, you think? It could rain down on some principles and staff if it got revealed what principles are doing and faculty are covering up and allowing to take place. Shame on those who work within the schools that know what is going on and do nothing. If you aren't part of the solution, then you are part of the problem.
And another thing, to suggest I haven't volunteered in my child's school or have false information is pretty gosh darn arrogant of you not to mention bit presumptuous. I take great offense to you saying my child could be lying or better yet, you suggest I haven't seen and heard the things I have.
You have completely removed all doubt from my mind that you could possibly be a teacher in our school system. Clearly you are but, what I can't seem to understand is how you keep from bumping into walls all day with the blinders on you choose to wear.
We have excellent observations & assessments on this blog! If we could pull them together and trigger reaction, problems would disappear.
However, liberal education would rather debate the reality that there is a reaction for every action, than admit that failure to recognize the reaction is the root of failure. Tolerance is inaction. Inaction is more of the same.
Essentials of knowledge haven't changed in centuries, yet children can't do simple math, read, or write. The God given attributes of relative vegitation to genius hasn't changed, yet education denies that fact to the point of defining failure as success. The process of success and failure that defines and finds what an indivual can do best, by experiencing and accepting their different capabilities, is denied by liberal public education.
Perhaps the inability to read might be as simple as recognizing that children who can't read English will fail to the point of absolute disruption and chaos when expected to function in a multicultural, multilingual, multimoral mix of babble! There is no cognizant standard for the average IQ person! A moral high IQ person is certainly driven to insanity in a world of mumbly pegs, marching music, and chants of conformity. Mau now brown cow!
The grand experiment of making the world equal has eliminated the freedom that allows everyone to be different. A God that intended such freedom can't coexist with equality. You see, no two people are alike, and unrestrained restraint must apply to all, to achieve conformity. Gee, what is "zero tolerance" in a tolerant society with no moral boundaries and no absolutes of knowledge or accomplishment. Isn't it the chaos that is now eating us alive?
The dropped gavel, abruptly dismissed meetings, and closure of common sense and comment is a sign that the "movement" is efficiently removing anything resembling efficiency and wisdom. Think of it as a bowel movement & smile if you can.
"The grand experiment of making the world equal has eliminated the freedom that allows everyone to be different. A God that intended such freedom can't coexist with equality."
So what do you suggest? A return to segregation?
I love the fact that with a lost election the fear of a "liberal" takeover is imminent. Oooga Booga
No wonder this county is in the dark as it is. What rubbish! 1:41 AM--You are up late to be writing such eloquent rhetoric. I am surprised that with all your knowledge, you can't spell the leader of the school as a PRINCIPAL. Maybe none of the schools have PRINCIPLES and thus the mess the school system is in. Get your daughter out of GCHS and take her to Cornersville. You and she and the rest of us would like that.
Ah ha 9:31, I have touched a nerve!!! Oh how I do love it when I rattle a cage! Your response leads me to believe that you are part of the problem. Oh do let me apologize for my misspelling of "principals". There now, better? Does it make you feel good to point out my error? I hope so. Now, since we have concluded that you are employed by the school system, why don't you open your eyes and be a role model to our youth. Do your job as an educator of protecting our youth when in your care and provide a quality education. I know it is a task for someone so busy trying to ignore and disguise the problems at hand but, I am sure with even a small effort on your part a difference could be made.
I find your condescending remarks very shallow and unbecoming of someone who is educating our children. Your attitude is much what I would expect from a teenage smart mouth know-it-all. You really care about the students don't you? How many times a day do you see children in harms way and stand idly by? Are you scared of the students, (now let me get the spelling right this time)Principals,director??? Who?? We can definitely rule out your conscience. Shameful indeed. Why does it bother you so I point out the problems that truly exist in our disgraceful high school? Oh that is right...I almost forgot..I called it like it is and ticked you off and perhaps it is a direct reflection upon you. Well, get over it!
Thank you though for being concerned about my sleeping habits. It is a very thoughtful gesture on your part but, my sleep schedule is just fine.
Funny you mention I should take my daughter to Cornersville if not happy with her present school. Immature of you as a supposed adult to make such a comment, not surprising though considering your intellect. Seems to be the overwhelming solution to move our children to Cornersville. You suggest it because so many have done it in the past. Haven't they??? Care to elaborate as to why they moved their kids?? Such a pitiful shame that parents have to take such a drastic measure to insure their children get a decent education and feel somewhat safe while getting it. And to think I quite possibly pay your salary. Unbelievable!!
9:31
People like you are the reason the school system is in such a mess. I would not call some of the leaders of our schools principals. I would call them lazy, mean, and low down people. The ones I am talking about how no morals and respect for no one. Another thing I don't believe 1:41 child is lying because if she is then there is a lot of children lying about what goes on in the schools. You said take your child out of GCHS and move her to Cornersville. That might help that child, but it can not solve the problems that goes on at GCHS. We have to many so called principals at GCHS that need to stand up and do their job. I'm not saying all are bad. Tee Jackson needs to do his also. GCHS needs to be cleaned up. If you are on the faculty staff then step up and encourage everyone else to do the same and be a role model and support system for these children. There is to many faculty staff at GCHS not to make a difference. Maybe one day our children can come home and tell us something positive going on at GCHS. You know as the other person said it is a same that parents have to take their children to out of county schools when we pay taxes here in Giles County.
Isn't it wonderful when someone makes a point that another person can not use a logical means for denial they simply attack the messenger, it can't be right because Mr Barrett posted it, it can't be legitimate because the poster misspelled a word, the person is just a trouble maker because they're smarter than me.
What is the problem that people can't stick to the subject, there's one about schools just below this one and why can't some simply admit there are problems that need to be addressed and corrected with ideas other than why don't you leave if you don't like it here. I fear there are some in this county that are causing the average intelligence to decline severely.
The emperor will speak to your chidren next week.
What can the children do to help our now messed up country?
Stay home & wear ear muffs!
Spoken like a true disciple of ignorance
Is there a claim of enlightenment to share?
9/15 Who do you follow?
A great subject, but lost in the voodo of political correctness & spin. When it's lost, you won't have time to yearn for days gone bye. In fact you will forget how to think, for there is always a master waiting to tell you what they want you to do.
Public education is preparing you for your future - answers to tests, follow instructions like the "Memphis Ducks", tolerance, no God, and no self. Doesn't even seem to be time to comment on it.
That points back at the parents of those children. Cause my parents raised me to put my hand over my heart or pull my cap off an place it over my heart when the flag is raised or lowered. Stop throwing this back on the schools it all starts at home. Because a lot of parents do not want the responsibility of educating there children. Schools are just the tool. An yes schools are out of control. An because some kid is here from another country we should not accommodate them cause they would not do that for us. Any where in the world. That is why other countries think we are weak we should show them practice our beliefs an freedoms. Of the majority of America not some group of people that have to fill forms out an take test to become citizens. Americans by birth should come first not some one that wants to enjoy our freedom but at the same time restrict us because it offends them that the colors of the United States of America are flying or being represented in a song.
1210 well put & wonderful thoughts.
It really points to the failure of the current education & political systems. Some look down on what is said & will not pass the message on because the grammer isn't intellectually correct. Some critics can't comprehend anything beyond spelling & grammer - in other words, they are prim & proper but void of common sense & purpose.
Thank you for your post. Anyone with a brain can understand the message & will pass it on. There is a big difference between someone slipping in your window, emptying the refrigerator, & taking your money and rights; than the good old American who doesn't hesitate to give a meal & encouragement if it's really needed!
Respect should be learned at home, but I think that prayer should have never been taken out of the schools. I know you can pray on your own, but I remember going to school years ago praying and doing the pledge. Some schools use to first thing in the morning go out by the flag pole by the child's choice, but I don't know if they still do that. We need to make sure that kids today start respecting and using manners. Everyone work together to make sure this happens.
I worked in other county school systems for many years before transferring to Giles County. I must say that I have been absolutely amazed at the behavior of many (not all) Giles County kids when it comes to respect for themselves, their peers, and adults, particularly teachers. It's a very real problem that you cannot blame on Mr. Jackson or the teachers. These kids come to school that way! And believe me when I tell you I've seen the worst of the worst here.
10:54
That's a great idea, but we have to get "parents" on board first. It's hard for kids to understand the importance of things like respect for others and good manners when they see just the opposite modeled before them at home. They see adults use bad manners and rudeness, and they hear them talking disrespectfully about others. They even hear the "adults" in the home bad-mouth teachers. So, what can we expect of them when they get to school?
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