Should The County Executive Be Bound By County Rules?
There are many who would argue on both sides of the issue of whether part-time employees should be given full time benefits or not? That question can be discussed at length but the reality, at this moment, is that part-time employees are prohibited from getting full time benefits.
The county is prohibited from paying for medical insurance for part time county employees as if they were full time but that hasn't stopped the County Executive from quietly hiring several part-time personnel and giving them full time benefits.
The question is should there be a consequence for a County Executive who ignores County policy and makes up their own rules while keeping the information from the County Commission and county citizens? Should matters legally decided by the County Commission be secretly circumvented by the County Executive without penalty?
Allen Barrett
The county is prohibited from paying for medical insurance for part time county employees as if they were full time but that hasn't stopped the County Executive from quietly hiring several part-time personnel and giving them full time benefits.
The question is should there be a consequence for a County Executive who ignores County policy and makes up their own rules while keeping the information from the County Commission and county citizens? Should matters legally decided by the County Commission be secretly circumvented by the County Executive without penalty?
Allen Barrett
posted by Allen Barrett | 9:13 AM
54 Comments:
it is FACT, that her long time part-time secretary has benefits...
Mr.Barrett, Where would you put the school bus drivers? They are part time (just a couple of hours a day). Yet they receive full med benefits. You make it sound like only Co. Executive sec. get this benefit.
School bus drivers may not work many hours a day, but they are full time employees. Their pays is not as good as others that put in more hours.
A school bus driver couldn't have another full time job, because it might flood or snow or etc. and they would be called in early.
You just get your panies in a wad when you hear WAB's name.
I thought part time employees was a way to get out of paying the fringes benifiets.
Why does some of the cafeteria employees only get part time pay if it's not to keep from paying the insurance?
It is my understanding that School bus drivers and cafeteria workers are not county employees but employees of the school system.
There are a number of part-time ambulance personnel that do not receive medical benefits. At this time it does seem that only those part-time employees closely connected to the County Executive are receiving full time benefits. Allen Barrett
More negativism?
Do we have a county charter that discusses these items? Has any law been broken? If so, go to the district attorney and file a complaint. Then, back off and see if he does his job. If no law has been broken, you can complain all you want, but it will change nothing.
And, thank you for distinguishing the school bus drivers from the other county employees. School bus drivers are employees of the school system and they deserve a huge raise and a thank you from every person in this county they have carried back and forth to school for years.
Who is Vanzant's long time part-time secretary?
Angela Jernigan.
Sounds like a good reason for ouster.
Angela Jernigan
Who is this Angela Jernigan? Is she a hometown girl or is her family got some kind of ties to the community?
Does it matter?
Yes, apparently to some it does!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 7:01 in particular
Angela Jernigan's momma is Judy Roberts who was the head bookkeeper for county working for Janet Vanzant and before the accounting was centralized.
I have to say that I voted for Janet Vanzant, but if these things are true and they can be proven, then I think the voters should take action. I think she should be voted out.
The proof is right there in the public records that a bunch of folks have a copy of.
School bus drivers get paid for 6 hours a day at a rate of $50.00-that is $25.00 a route. So include the insurance the county pays that would be around $1650.00 a month.
Bus drivers are not county employees and are not on the county payroll. They are school employees and paid out of school funds. They are in a totally different category and legally receive their benefits. Allen Barrett
Why oh why oh why oh WHY would you - after reading everyting else on this site that the grand Mrs. Vanzant has done to get elected and while in office - believe that she would do anything but this type of stuff? If she was doing everything as she should then WHY would she need her husband to serve as her body guard. Please tell me why oh why oh WHY!!!!!!!
School employee's are paid with our tax dollars. Part time is part time. Let's not discriminate.
10:45
If people were dogging my wife like you and these people are doing, rest assured that I would be right there with her.
Considering his health----I doubt that he would be any protection unless he is fully armed.
I was wondering if he didn't have a job.
Guess we know who brings home the bacon.
If the county executive feels as though the sheriff's deputy present at meetings isn't enough protection that she has to incorporate the additional protection of her husband we must wonder what why? What has she done so bad to make people so angry in order for her to feel the need for such protection. It speaks volumes to me as to what kind of county executive we have and her capabilities to effectively run the office of county executive. If she must need this amount of protection I want to know why and from whom she wishes to be protected from.
It's her guilty conscience that makes her so afraid.
11:58
You miss the point about Mr. Vanzant. It's not a matter of his being able to defend her. It's a matter of protecting his wife's honor. I would go on a stretcher to work with my wife if she had to put up with the likes of some of these people. Some men blieve in protecting their wives' honor.
There are alot of things done and have been done by the county exec that really stink but when her husband is around it really stinks
Ok. What a joke 7:23!!!! How can you protect "the honor" of someone who did and continues to do what she has done. LIE LIE LIE. You have to have "honor" before it can be protected. Thanks for my laugh of the day.
Agreed 7:36. Peeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!
If Joe and Janet Vanzant are seperated as she says they are (so she can claim she lives in Giles Co) why would Joe Vanzant be around to protect her. Or is he protecting his insurance and meal ticket.
Just more lies that she has told.
Exactly 12:55. My guess is if he is not married to her then he doesn't qualify for the health insurance. What kind of an arrangement do they have? He is disgusting every time I have ever seen him. He looks like he needs to bathe.
We are gonna have to start referring to you as MY GUESS. You say it so often.
You're funny 8:09! If it bothers you I will keep it up just to annoy you. Please enlighten me as only you can where I have said it other than in my post 4:39.
My knowledge of insurance coverage is that if you are married you can cover your spouse and children until the age of 18, or until the child finishes college. That applies if you are married and living in the same household. It does not mean covering a spouse if you are seperated, and you dont have to be legally seperated, just not living in the same household. So it seems to me that if Janet Vanzant covers Joe under her county insurance, then they aint seperated. And we all know Joe lives on Vanzant drive in Lincoln county so now you know where Janet rests her lovely head each night. If I'm wrong about this then someone out there correct me about the insurance.
9:22
My guess is that you will do anything you can to annoy those who offer views that you do not like.
Ins coverage for a spouse can remain in effect until a divorce decree is obtained or a court order is handed down. Ins is also available for a couple who is living together but not married to each other.
Rocky
I can tell that you cannot cover a live-in on the school/county/state policy. I know this for a fact. There is a state insurance audit being done right now. Employees have to send in two proofs of marriage. Marriage license then mortgage or other legal document listed in both their names.
whoopiee Someone stepped in it?
there are times when she should be "bound" & gagged & locked in a stocade on the square for a Saturday afternoon something to gawk at get together - on the other hand, it's nice to have lots of room for improvement & blessed with the knowledge that any idiot could improve the situation.
Look at it this way, the county could be ruled by the spear.
You said it all 9:16! It certainly wouldn't take much to improve. Audit on the county?? So does this mean it is being looked into about the county's health insurance covering the ineligible employees who are part-time? Anyone know the details of this audit,(why it is being done and if complete yet)? Also, when will the results of this audit be made available to the public?
I'm not sure whether all the county insurance is being audited or if just the insurance Giles County teahers are enrolled in through the state oomtollers office is the only one being audited at this time.
Does anyone know?
The enrollee's are being audited. They are trying to make sure that all dependents are legal dependents. A lot of insurance companies are doing the same thing trying to keep rates down.
What do you mean enrollees? I don't understand. Do you even know what you are talking about?
1:22
Enrollees are the people who legally participate in the insurance proam because of their employment status.
Again, when will this audit be published? I am curious to know who is fraudulently receiving benefits through my tax dollars. Who is conducting this audit? Please let us know when this audit will be available.
The audit is being done all over the state on teachers by the state insurance office. But I understand that it is being done by a lot of insurance companies for all their enrolees.
The insurance companies are checking to see if the people carried on their polices are leagal spouses, or children under the cutoff age for insurance coverage on their parents policies. I have heard that in some cases divorced parents are both covering the same child on seperate insurance policies and claiming full benefits from both companies.
Sort of explains some of the high cost of insurance if this is a widespread problem. Do you think??
It seems that just can't trust some folks today.
The high cost of any form of insurance is driven, in large part, the same way it is for hospital costs and services. Medical malpractice insurance is through the roof due to the same underlying problem, namely lawyers. Until there is tort reform and something can be done to get trial lawyers out of the equation, we can expect those insurance costs to soar even further out of control. Granted, lawyers are not the only problem. Much of it is fueled by greed, pharmaceutical companies, lobbyists, etc. It is far more serious than the fact that some people are "double-dipping" from the insurance pot.
Is this audit just being done on the school employees? Or, is it also being done on the county employees as well? Reason I ask is because we have part-time county employees receiving health insurance that only full-time employees are entitled to.
I have no idea the school insurance is bid by the state not the county---so your guess is a good as mine.
Giles County employees and school employees are on the state insurance policy which is bid out by the state. State employees and state colleges are also on the same policy. The county is the one who is determining that a part time employee is eligible.
Let me explain the audit. Every state, county or school employee who is on state health or dental insurance and has dependents was sent a form asking them to prove that their dependents were legal dependents. If they are not they will be dropped from the insurance policy.
10:02, why would the county determine that a part-time employee get full-time health coverage? Sounds fishy to me...does this part-time employee provide favors or does this person know something on somebody? Or is it because of WHO they THINK they are...SPECIAL and ENTITLED!!
Does anyone know if the county and school employees pay anything on their insurance? If so what percentage do they pay.
Teachers receive their personal health care and basic life insuarance (enough to cover burial osts)as part of their contractual benefits, but they have to pay full price for family coverage. They also pay extra for their own vision, dental, cancer, and extra life insurance if they want to leave anything for their familis to live on. Teacher also pay for dental, cancer etc that they carry on their family.
I have no idea how other county employees insurance plans work.
Melanie
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