Giles Free Speech Zone

The purpose of the "Giles Free Speech Zone" is to identify problems of concern to the people of Giles County, to discuss them in a gentlemanly and civil manner, while referring to the facts and giving evidence to back up whatever claims are made, making logical arguments that avoid any use of fallacy, and, hopefully, to come together in agreement, and find a positive solution to the problem at hand. Help make a difference! Email "mcpeters@usit.net" to suggest topics or make private comments.

Wednesday, July 29, 2009

Why Do Some Do So Little With So Much When Other Do So Much With So Little?

The Chamber Of Commerce with it's president Mr. Wes Kelley, (PES executive), and a director with a salary of $56,000.00 seems out of line with the benefits the county receives in return. The Chamber is controlled by the mayor and his appointments and until recently were double dipping into county funds by taking a contribution from the county then charging the tourism Board, (all the money the county was giving to Tourism), for rent.
The Tourism Board with its Eight Dollar an hour director and volunteers seems far more productive and beneficial to the County. They certainly seemed to be the red-headed step child of the county when it came to funding and certainly received attention similar to Cinderella from the step sisters named City Mayor and Pulaski Electric yet they have accomplished much more for the county than the Chamber has. Why is this?
Allen Barrett

99 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't believe you know what you are talking about???? Who does the mayor appoint to the Chamber of Commerce board? Before you make any guesses, get the facts!

Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How do you think Wes Kelley became the Chairman of the Chamber? Wake up dude. Nothing happens on the Chamber or the power boards without the approval of the mighty mite mayor.

Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dude! The mayor does not appoint anyone to the Chamber Board!!!!!! I knew some dumb a$$ would post such nonsense. I do not like our mayor either, but get your facts straight!

Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9:27 Less than 5 years ago I was on the Tourism Board for 3 years. NOTHING was done or approved by Tourism or the Chamber WITHOUT 'checking' with the almighty mayor. I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT! The 'director' of Tourism, at that time - who works at the Co-op now, constantly told the Toursim board 'I will have to check with Dan first.' 'Dan won't like it and he won't give Tourism any money.' ETC,! I was in the Tourism office/Chamber office ALOT during my time on the Toursim Board. The Chamber director didn't make a move with out kissing 'Dan's' "a$$ Dude". At that time, the Chamber was working HARD to try to take over the Tourism Board; wanting to do away with the Tourism Board. It is my belief 'funds' were kept low on purpose to cause Tourism to cave. However, it hasn't! It would be my guess Tourism has brought more tax $$ to Giles County over the past few years than the Director of Economic Development. Dude, don't take my word, check out the public statistics.

Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No body said the mayor appointed anyone to the Chamber only that he controlled the Chamber and no one became the director or the chairman without his approval. Don't believe me go to a Chamber meeting ask the other Chamber members and those in tourism.

Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have heard the same thing from a member. If I had to venture a guess, I would say what these people are saying is true. I don't know this person to lie. One of the reasons people don't want to be involved is because Speer (aka the little man) has a need to control everything.

Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1038 I think all the citizens of Giles County should stand up and applaud you. It took alot of courage for you to stand up and say what you said. You should be heard and respected because it is obvious, you know what you are talking about. Heres to you!

Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/30 12:03 I agree whole-heartedly with you. I took have had the unfortunate displeasure of working under the tyrannt Dan Speer and it is very true. Everything has to have his blessing. That includes what you can say and to whom you can say it to. Thats how he is able to keep all his underhanded misdealings such a secret. Those who know about his illegal activities will suffer more than anyone could possibly know if they expose him and the things he is doing. And yes, he will find out who you are and take out his revenge.

Thursday, July 30, 2009 3:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets not forget about all his extra marrital affairs. Hes been caught more than once with someone other than his wife. Hes also broken up a marriage or two.

Thursday, July 30, 2009 3:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:03 I am 10:38 It did not take courage to anonymously tell the TRUTH about the little runt. However, those who are attending public meetings and not putting up with the same old crap from the little runt and his gang are to be applauded for being pro-active and displaying teamwork....something rarely seen in this county.
I was told by the director of Tourism, when I was on the Tourism board, I should consider myself lucky that I live in the county. Also, I could be sure the little runt would 'check' me out. My thought at the time, 'Wow, that really scares me.....who gives a darn!'

OMG! Having an 'affair' with the little runt.....gag!

The responsible citizens of this county should realize the 'controllers' of the county commission and city council are scared and worried they will be found out OR 'they' would not be ending meetings 'suddenly' OR 'suddenly' changing the dates of public meetings. Keep the little rooster on the run people....keep positive.....'mama' has the hatchet and we are having 'rooster' and dumplings for dinner. Yum, yum!

Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wab
I just wanted to ask you why you allow the foul language that permeates this blog, and particularly on this thread? And people are permitted to call others adulterers, knowing full well that it hurts innocent members of families and sometimes even an innocent victim of such accusations. Just because I may KNOW someone who is involved in adultery wouldn't give me the right to start going around telling everybody. You of all people should know better. And, the irony of it all is that you have the ability to remove unsavory posts....and you don't do it! I suppose it's acceptable since it's "journalism", right? Shame on you.

Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why shame Barrett? The shame is on someone who isn't taking their marriage vows seriously. Guess you think Barrett can force everyone to remain true to their spouse. You're either sorely misguided or maybe you are too close to the topic of adultery. People who break up marriages should take responsibility for their behavior. Or is it okay for an elected person in your opinion?

Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6:03 are not 9:27 also calling someone a name?

Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

as a former board member myself, I can assure you that things done now are not "blessed" by the Mayor...that's what had that all fired up, they won't let him control it.

Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:42
Look, wab is the one who is allowing the bad language and the reference to someone as an adulterer. I didn't say he called someone an adulterer. My question was and remains why would he allow it? If I said one bad word, you can bet my post would be removed by the blogmaster. And sure, we all know that the one caight in adultery should be ashamed, moreso than wab.

Thursday, July 30, 2009 3:42:00 PM  
Anonymous wab said...

To 30 July 6:03 AM
I have stated before, that words considered by an average person to be profanity will cause the entire post to be deleted. I have done this, not quickly enough at times but as soon as it has come to my attention.
Deleting profanity is as far as I can go and still maintain the free speech rights I endorse. I understand there are some posts that are personally objectionable to you, some are personally objectionable to me as well but would you be satisfied if I deleted the posts I found personally objectionable? Would you think this a free speech zone if I deleted all your posts? I'm sorry, too much sacrifice has been made in order for this freedom to be maintained and I will not be the one who betrays that sacrifice by using censorship to only provide certain points of view.
You say shame on me, I say shame on you but the real shame would be for me to delete your statements or the statements of others simply because I didn't agree with them. Free speech has never been free. Allen Barrett

Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wab
Don't bother saying shame on me. Look in the mirror. Someone on another thread referred to male genitalia in a profane way and also eluded to another profanity by ttyping "shut the **** up". What do you suppose he or she meant by that?
I'm just suggesting that it doesn't look good for a man in your position to be condoning that, free speech or not!

Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 4:48 do you want some cheese with your whiiiiinnnne. Suck it up and grow up, if you don't like the material you are reading, LOG OFF.

Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone at the PES public hearing the other night got to see Mrs. Speer in action. Can you see now why Speer has gone to other options. She looks like she acts!
She along with her short husband should be "run out on a rail" as Dr. Garner commented so well!
Wonder if maybe that's why Joe Vanzant is camping out at the Annex Building now.

Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:13
My post was directed to wab. Do you want to answer my question for him as well?

Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:06 I think you are mentally stuck at age 2. If it wasn't soooo sad, it would be funny!

12:34 What board were you a member of?

Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11:12
You didn't answer my question (for wab) and expect me to answer yours? Ok.
I don't belong to and never have belonged to any boards. Now, how about a mature answer to my question that was not directed to you in the first place?

Friday, July 31, 2009 6:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What was the question you asked and WAB didn't answer. Looks to me like he not only answered your question but did so nicely and brilliantly.

Friday, July 31, 2009 7:37:00 AM  
Anonymous wab said...

To anonymous of the 31 July 6:47 post.
I also would like to know which question you asked me that I did not respond to. I went back and re-read several of your post but failed to see a single question that was not responded to in by 4:01 post.

Friday, July 31, 2009 7:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wouldn't you camp out there too if your wife was the gravy train?

Friday, July 31, 2009 9:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My question to wab concerned why he condones filthy language all in the name of free speech. To the best of my knowledge, that was the one.

Friday, July 31, 2009 3:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Same way he condones someone comparing him being on the cross like Christ.

Friday, July 31, 2009 4:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Damn, you guys need to chil !!!!!!!!!!!

Friday, July 31, 2009 5:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ask Dan if he knows David Crane?

Friday, July 31, 2009 6:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

4:53
You are STILL talking about wab being on the cross? HAHAHA. You are either on drugs, drunk, totally delusional, or just trying to be cute. That has been explained over and over, and you bring it up again. Do you realize how utterly stupid that makes you look?
Who are Dan and David? Inquiring minds want to know. Will they be under the gun next?

Friday, July 31, 2009 7:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dan would surely be as in Speer. Is David Crane local or what?

Friday, July 31, 2009 10:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will David Crane's background and personal life now be investigated? Is he the next "crook" (victim)?

Saturday, August 01, 2009 6:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TO; Thursday, July 30, 2009 3:42:00 AM -- My Grandpappy used to say " you don't nothing, 'til YOU see the thang in the thang. You personally witnessed what you stated? If you did, ok. If you heard it from a "reliable" source, then you know NOTHING - you're just spreading rumors.

Saturday, August 01, 2009 7:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK---what was this post about? Trading barbs back an forth? Why do you keep getting caught up in this kind of game. Every wonder why people (some) in town think there are some lunies on here. A question was asked and we are reading about affairs. Not like anyone here could or has produced evidence? besides---what was the original subject?

Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Callie Beech said...

Callie here.....Honey child, YOUR Granny 'should have' taught you a gentleman or lady never never engages in such trash talk. Oh me, where are my smelling salts?

Saturday, August 01, 2009 6:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is David Crane the guy who works for the Wildlife Office? Is that the same guy who worked for Leaps & Bounds & substituted at Southside? Does anyone know? How is he tired to the Mayor of Oz?

Saturday, August 01, 2009 6:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

David Crane is NOT tied to Dan Speer other than Dan was having extramarital exercises with David's wife now ex-wife. David may be a pain in the a** at times but he is not currupt.

Sunday, August 02, 2009 10:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Such cruel things to say in an open forum such as this. Censorship anyone? No, only if you voice an opinion or point out a concern that directly opposes those who post here on a regular basis. It's called free speech, I'm told.

Sunday, August 02, 2009 12:59:00 PM  
Anonymous wab said...

To 2 Aug 12:59
Why do you insist on spreading a lie that you know absolutely is a lie. Not one single post on this blog has been deleted because of anything other than the use of profanity. More specifically not one of your post, as objectionable and mean spirited as some have been, has been deleted from this blog. You know that yet you choose to post something that you are well aware is not true. This can only be interpreted that you have no respect for truth and have consciously and maliciously embraced a lie. Now if I am wrong you can prove my total lack of credibility by showing one single example of a post that was deleted because it was not compatible with other ideas.
For one to lie so blatantly is despicable, especially coming from one who has claimed self appointment as overseer of virtue and right behavior. Allen Barrett

Sunday, August 02, 2009 1:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ok, please explain where I lied. I'd really like to know how my opinion can be spun as a falsehood.

Sunday, August 02, 2009 2:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just ignore her.

Sunday, August 02, 2009 4:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Such gender confusion. Are you the blog spokesperson? What a laugh.

Sunday, August 02, 2009 4:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK - Just ignore HIM acting like a HER! Can you see where he/she/it is constantly twisting bloggers words? Trying to keep he/she/it from proving any FALSE statement by saying 'tell me what I did'. I have a 2 yr old who does just the same thing. But she knows her gender idenity........

Sunday, August 02, 2009 5:14:00 PM  
Anonymous wab said...

To 2 Aug 2:24.
After writing your 2 Aug 12:59
post you deceitfully feign innocent surprise and ask "ok, please explain where I lied. I'd really like to know how my opinion can be spun as a falsehood".

Let me see if I can put this delicately out of respect for your overly sensitive ears. You are a deceitful, slimy liar because you knowingly posted something as true that you knew unquestionably was not true.
These are your exact words "Censorship anyone? No, only if you voice an opinion or point out a concern that directly opposes those who post here on a regular basis", this was not introduced as an opinion or thought or speculation of any sort but as a "fact" conceived and birthed in the mind of either a complete imbecile or one who has failed to read their own ramblings. Your subterfuge of deceit is pure guile
and hypocrisy.
As I stated before I state again, "if I am wrong you can prove my total lack of credibility by showing one single example of a post that was deleted because it was not compatible with other ideas. For you to lie so blatantly is despicable", and you are without honor or integrity. Allen Barrett

Sunday, August 02, 2009 5:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wab
LOOK, you accuse me of telling lies, and I want YOU to show me where. OK? You called me a deceitful, slimy liar. How becoming of a "man of God!" Would you call me that if I showed up at your church tonight? Or would you "feign" any knowledge of having said that? Please tell me what I stated as true that I knew to be untrue? And please don't be overly concerned about my delicate ears. I can handle anything and more that you dish out. I asked you a legitimate question, and you resort to the typical condescension and name-calling. You see, that has ALWAYS been my problem with you. Imbecile? Subterfuge of deceit? Goodness gracious!
You know as well as I do that I don't favor censorship in a free society or even on this blog. What I DO believe is that you of all people should not allow such language as what I've seen on here lately. Wasn't it Paul who asked the Galatians if he had become their enemy by telling them the truth? We both know that filthy language has no place in a public forum, and I just told you the truth.
Please don't accuse me of, among other things, being devoid of honor and integrity. I know who I am, and your assessment of those traits are a falshood.
And then you wonder why those county and city officials you antagonize dread even the very sight of you? Think.

Sunday, August 02, 2009 5:50:00 PM  
Anonymous wab said...

To 5:50
Here is the lie you knowingly told.

"Censorship anyone? No, only if you voice an opinion or point out a concern that directly opposes those who post here on a regular basis"

I have posted this statement of yours twice in responding to you please pay attention it's the part enclosed in quotation marks.

Now here is another statement that is completely contradictory to other things you have written in the past few days.

"You know as well as I do that I don't favor censorship in a free society or even on this blog."

Would you be so kind as to define what censorship is if not controlling the free speech and ideas of those posting on this blog? Profanity is censured ideas even crude ones are not. Allen Barrett

Sunday, August 02, 2009 6:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wab....
Please, please, please..you are smarter that, aren't you? When I said "censorship anyone", it was meant much like the waiter would say "refills anyone." No, I am totally against censorship. Perhaps I was a bit off base when I said that censorship would only apply to those who said something profane in the text of a post that was not aligned with the mainstream thinking of this forum. I am big enough to apologize for that speculation.
But I must stand by what I said about vulgarity on this blog. I love the concepts of free speech and the sharing of ideas, but cursing and making suggestions that every reader knows to be profane should not be acceptable just for the sake of free speech.
Would you agree with me that saying "shut the ****up" and "taking a ****" are vulgarities? I certainly hope so.

Sunday, August 02, 2009 6:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Perhaps it is you who reads it as profane because you fill in the blanks with profanity. That is your mind at work and not necessarily anyone else. Those comments you have disdain for could be "shut the heck up" or "taking a break". It takes a vulgar mind like yours to spin it to be profane. Why would you feel the need to inject such vulgarity if you so detest it. Not to mention the great effort you continue to make to keep these "comments" front and center of this thread and others. Why does your intellect not allow you to discuss other issues other than the way people talk on here. Is it just that your minimal intellect won't allow it???

Sunday, August 02, 2009 8:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Riddler set her up & dunked her in her own outhouse. Wab's comments are true to the bone. She has flipped out & ready for the loony bin! Completely & totally nuts!

Sunday, August 02, 2009 8:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:14 BRAVO!

Monday, August 03, 2009 12:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:14
WRONG AGAIN!!! It was one of you guys (those people) who said the "everyone knows what it meant." I merely repeated what we all know. The clear message is there even if asterisks are used, and we both know that. So your accusation that my mind was in the wrong place is ridiculous.
Injecting vulgarity? Wrong again. I stand against it.
I see your cohorts are out in support of you.
Ok, your turn. Chess anyone?

Monday, August 03, 2009 6:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

626 Now, you are wallowing & drowning in your own dung. Too deep to get our. Chess? Life raft? It's like watching the world's biggest terd sink! Good riddance & bye bye.

Riddler - thanks for the torpedo - may she RIP

Monday, August 03, 2009 7:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a question, someone wanted this blog censored, How could that be done? When you post, it comes up, it don't go to WAB for him to check. He might read this blog ever minute like some.

I think someone has a bell that rings on their computer every time a post goes up.

Monday, August 03, 2009 8:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Therapist anyone?
8:36
Who suggested that this blog be censored? I think what was said is that the blogmaster, being a preacher, knows that vulgar and profane expressions should not be permitted just for the sake of free speech. There are more polite and considerate ways to make points without cursing and profanity. Right?

Monday, August 03, 2009 6:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
wab
May I direct your attention to the above 12:21 post? That's the kind of nasty talking you allow on this blog? Again, shame on you!

Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:10:00 AM

How do you stop nasty words if you don't censor the blog?

Monday, August 03, 2009 9:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When do we get back to the topic?

Monday, August 03, 2009 9:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wab
How do you stop nasty words if you censor the blog? You and I both know what I am referring to, so I'll not list those examples again. There are polite and respectful ways to get points across without making vulgar statements.
You never did answer my question about church. Would you allow someone in your congregation to tell someone else to "shut the **** up if the speaker said something he or she didn't like? This may seem like an exercise in splitting hair to you, but I honestly would like to know.

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 6:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We all know your foul definition - as you quote - you love to write it! You are a true sleaze bag.

Just don't want to climb out of the dung, do you..........

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 7:07:00 AM  
Anonymous wab said...

To the anonymous of the 3 Aug 9:05 PM post.
You state "wab May I direct your attention to the above 12:21 post? That's the kind of nasty talking you allow on this blog? Again, shame on you!"

Sorry but I could not find a 12:21 post on this thread.

To anonymous of the 4 Aug 6:15 AM post whom I suspect is the same as the 9:05 poster.

You ask, "How do you stop nasty words if you censor the blog?" At first I thought you meant "if I don't censure the blog" but having already answered that question I'll try to answer as you ask. I do censor the blog in the sense that I delete profanity as soon as I see it. I can not read every post as soon as it is posted and they are not filtered through me prior to being posted. To have them filtered would cause huge delays and frustration from the posters. I have chosen to trust the posters to use their judgment and consideration when posting and for the most part they have.
The things that you seem to object to other than my mere existence are some posts that were typed using a letter and symbols. This has been a long used method of conveying such thoughts and expressions as anger, frustration and even words considered inappropriate for public use. Newspapers and political cartoons have used these signs for well over a hundred years. What the word may be is left entirely to the imagination of the reader.

As for there being other more polite ways to get points across without making vulgar statements, I agree and that is why you haven't seen me use such language.

Once again you try a Pharisees trap with your question, "You never did answer my question about church. Would you allow someone in your congregation to tell someone else to "shut the **** up if the speaker said something he or she didn't like?"

Perhaps you could tell me how I or you could prevent someone anywhere even in church from saying something filled with profanity? Would you suggest putting a gag on everyone with the potential of cussing, that would seem to cover everyone. The reality is that no one can prevent another person from saying what they choose.
Now if you were to ask what my reaction would be to such a thing I would say "the same as if I were at the barber shop, in Wal Mart or at Burger King" a gentle reminder of the unacceptable action then if continued a stronger rebuke and condemnation would be forthcoming. I hope this puts your question to rest and we can get back to the topic at hand. Allen Barrett

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 11:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yes we lost the topic a long time ago.....which was probably someones point in the first place!!! DANG

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 2:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wab
You chose to trust the judgment of the posters? Are you kidding me? Those who have used the most profane words are from among those whose thinking is more in tune with yours. And what a silly thing to say about putting a gag in the mouths of those parishoners who might use bad language in church.
You accuse me of acing like a Pharisee. Well look in your mirror. And, as far as I am concerned, your response to my questions about the bad language is my topic.

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 5:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Deanna said...

5:39-If that is your topic, then ask the moderator politely to post it. He has done so in the past, even posting one allowing others to vent their frustration on himself.
If that is not acceptable to you, may I suggest that you start your own blog and censor away to your hearts content. Just a guess, mind you but I am betting neither logical suggestion will be satisfactory to you.
Also as Carolyn has posted frequently, I too wonder why you have not directed a single objection to the language that offends you to the one who actually posted the remarks. It does seem that that would be the most appropriate thing to do if the offensive language was what was truly bothering you. WAB didn't say the words, someone else did, yet you are not upset with that person at all...so is it the language really, for which there are remedies or is it wab who posted no vulgar words at all? The answer seems clear to me.
Deanna

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 8:59:00 PM  
Anonymous The Real Deadman said...

Once again the blog has left the building. I honestly have to say that it is ridiculous the direction this thread has taken.5:39pm: If you don't like the language that people are using, DEAL WITH IT. You are so boorish in your attitudes. The fact that someone refers to a word with symbols offends you is *#$king ridiculous. By the way, I know where your mind went, but the word was barking. Words are just that, the thoughts behind them are what count, words just bring thoughts to life. Let people have their freedoms and they will let you have yours. Unfortunately in this country we have allowed the ones who become offended at the least little thing to take control and say we can't do that anymore, someone might get offended. Well tough, let them get offended. I for one don't care. I can deal with the offenses as well as anyone, the only ones I have to protect is my family, and I do that by providing them with the knowledge they need. So, Mr, or Ms. Anonymous 5:39, if someone does use a word you don't like, deal with it. Deal with them, not the person who owns the building they are in or the blog they are on, deal with that person. If you are at Titan's stadium and someone uses language you don't approve of, do you call Bud Adams? I think not. Therefore drop the holier than thou attitude, and roll up your sleeves and become part of the solution. Quit being part of the problem.

Now, that being said, where were we going on this thread?

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 2:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

deanna.
It's really simple. Those making the nasty statements are not the ones in control of this blog. Haven't you ever heard of going to the head of the stream? But, golly, I've obviously been wasting my time trying to make a VALID point. So, have it your way as usual. You're right and I'm wrong. Why didn't I realize that before? So those who want to make nasty remarks are apparently free to continue as long as they (in my opinion) go along with the collective views of this blog.

deadman
I can deal with those who call names and use profanities. And you know very well the point I was attempting to make. You talk about rollling up your sleeves and going to work? Ha. That is exactly what I have suggested to those who sit back and criticize elected officials. Make peace. We of my persuasion see what "those people" are doing as the real problem. But of course, we are mentally lazy and trying to hide corruption, right? Wrong!

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 6:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have tried to tell everyone to ignore her. We will never be able to discuss the topics on this blog until we do.

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 9:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Again, are you the blog spokesperson?

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 4:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, just ignore 6:37. All you are doing is giving them control. Pretend they aren't even there. We are getting no where with this back and forth. You can't educate ignorance. They have already expressed that they do not want to discuss the issues. So,all they are doing when you engage in an argument with them is take the focus off the matter at hand. It is playing right into their plan to sabotage any discussion on the issues. You can't carry a conversation with only one person.

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 4:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually no, I've never heard the expression, "going to the head of the stream." But I have heard the one, "if you do the crime, you do the time." Why not chew out the one who used the language you object to. It's call personal responsibility. As for the rest of your post that was directed to me, except for the "collective views" remark, I'd say we are in agreement.
Do you ever wonder why you must constantly post, "and you know very well what I mean....."? Looks like more people than you realize go by what you actually say, rather than attempting to interpret your meaning which would be pretty arrogant anyway.
Deanna

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 5:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wait untill the real truth comes out and you are going to see some people acramble at the Chamber of Commerce. Stay tuned for further details.

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 10:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know anything about the chamber but I do know that another entity is about to have a great revelation.

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 11:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

deanna,
Instead of attempting to talkd down to me, why don't you take the advice of the blog spokesperson (4:21) and stop responding to anything I say? After all, I don't give a hoot about issues. Laughable!
Why not chew out the one responsible for the filthy language? You talk about responsibility. What if someone wrote a letter to the editor with trash in it like that? Do you honestly believe that the letter would be printed? Would the editor (blogmaster) not be responsible?
Ok, I will concede that the "blogmaster" can't sit by the computer 24-7 with finger on the delete button of his keyboard. BUT, he has the responsibility to delete those posts as soon as he becomes aware of them. But he doesn't do that and even defends his action...or lack of action by calling it free speech. That troubles me.
Oh, what's the use. I might as well "shut the **** up."
I'm glad we agree on the faqct that there is a collective view on this blog. Let me carry that one step further. It's actually the collective view of a very vocal and small minority.
Ok, your turn.

Thursday, August 06, 2009 6:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

as noted elsewhere, wab needs to block this idiot for accessing the blog. Any and all topics are turning into nonsense with meaningless gibberish that is designed to turn away anyone with an active brain.

freedom of speech? One with the power to block the speech and views of many? sound familiar? CCP & our ever more oppressive "liberalism". it's past time to stop it!

Thursday, August 06, 2009 6:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Deanna said...

Hello, I said the one thing I didn't agree with you on was the collective view thingy. And once again, you say NOTHING about the person who actually made the crude remark. It's all wab's fault; bright side is you once again emphatically stated you weren't interested in the issues.
You're right it's pointless, I'll just go with your post which says you are wrong and I am right and you are wasting your time attempting to make a valid point; your words, and I can't disagree. Welcome to the "dark side." Now that you agree with me, you might see that some issues are important.
Deanna

Friday, August 07, 2009 12:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6:46
So my concernes about filthy language, name-calling and the like are not valid issues? You see, what you and I have is a completely different "opinion" as to what constitutes an issue. I wonder if being called names would become an issue with you if you wound up on the receiving end? Imagine if you will being one of the the victims of this very vocal and small minority who regularly post here. Would you then have an "issue" with that?
You say wab should consider blocking me (this idiot) from the blog in the name of free speech? And you call me a liberal?

Friday, August 07, 2009 4:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

4:17 can't see the forest for the trees. Truly an idiot. And you guys are falling for it. Deanna, stop giving this person the time of day. You have made a lot of valid points on this blog in the past and I enjoy hearing your point of view. But, you like others on this blog that keep arguing with this individual is giving them control. I know it is hard to walk away when they keep running their mouth. You need to though.We can't even discuss the issues because of this person and they sit back laughing that they are causing this uproar. You will never be able to reason with this person. Please, there is so much to discuss but it isn't getting discussed. Do you remember the last time you posted on this blog that you weren't arguing with you know who??? You and others are smarter than this to fall into the trap being set to keep you engaged in conversation that keeps the focus on them and their agenda.

Friday, August 07, 2009 8:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about we stop taking pot shots at eachother?

Heard that Ron Holcom has resigned from PES

Friday, August 07, 2009 8:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, he did and it high time. When is Dan and Janet going to do the same??? Both are wicked people and need to go!

Friday, August 07, 2009 8:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard Dan was going to resign today. We could only get so lucky!! As far as Lying Janet, we are way overdue for her lying hiney to go!! Who has she not lied to?? I don't know anyone that she has not lied to. I mean no one! Even those that have supported her in the past, have had a change of heart. Why you ask??? Because she lied to them! The only thing she can do effectively is LIE!!!!

Monday, August 10, 2009 10:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of lying, has anyone noticed a certain someone has said twice they wasn't going to get on this blog, but they do.

10:32 not talking about you, just the lie fit my thoughts.

Just wondering if lying is something going around.

Monday, August 10, 2009 2:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dan is like that Blagojevich feller. He will never resign. He never thinks he does any wrong.

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with Aug 11-6:33... Dan is arrogant. Why? Nobody runs against him and Dan truly believes that he is invincible as a politician. Is he dumb? No way! He is very smart and extremely cagey in that he knows exactly what to do and when. He knows how to bend and twist the system to meet his agenda.

He truly believes that he has done nothing wrong for if what he does meets what he wants, then it is good. The rules apply to the public; but, not to Dan when he so decides. He is above the huddled masses because he believes that he is greater than everyone else. Why NOT! He has been elected to the position of Mayor for 20 years!!!

Until we have a citizen who is willing to be put through the personal harassment that is required to be elected, has the fortitude to stand up against Dan, and the smarts to create a coalition of citizens who have the best interest of others before their personal agenda …. We will be stuck with DAN.

Why does DAN do what he does???? BECAUSE we allow him to do it!!! We are too busy, or self-centered, to stand up for our rights and the well being of all our citizens. It is easier to ignore the mess and complain, than it is to stand up and voice an opinion and back that opinion with positive action.

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have went through every topic on this blog and counted approximately twenty six negative things said about the Mayor. That equates to twenty six people at best. So, If there is approximately nine thousand people in the city and approximately 22,000 in the county, that means the Mayor is very well respected and supported by most. Dang, I bet that's why he has been Mayor for so long. Reckon?

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That is just on the blog. Go out and take a survey or wait until election time rolls around and I bet you there will be more than 26. I believe you should recount the blogs and you will find more than 26. Dan is joke to the city and I hope the voters of Pulaski put him out of office. I wish I could vote for Mayor of Pulaski. You can count me as 27 and I have NO RESPECT for him.

Thursday, August 13, 2009 12:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guess there's one way to find out...it's called an "election"

Friday, August 14, 2009 10:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, does anyone know how well Kelly is doing with his new job title?

Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about the great revelation that was supposed to have taken place? As for the Chamber, the director is making $56,000 a year and is never in the office. I have been in there numerous times and she is never there. I wonder if Wes Kelly knows how little she works. You couldn't get anything done if you wanted to. Wake up Mr. Kelly and stop spending so much money for nothing.

Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They call the Giles Co. Chamber bt it's really the Pulasi Chamber. Have you ever see the director at an event outside the city limits ? No!!! Does she even live in Giles Co? Shes gotta Go !!!

Monday, August 24, 2009 8:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is the beef with Stony jackson and tourism? The word at the court house is he doesn't want them to move in and he was the one that made the motion at the committee meeting. What have they ever done to him?

Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've heard Stoney Jackson is a Dan Speer man. Anything Dan wants from the county commission he gets the support of Stoney Jackson. I think there have been some problems between the Chamber of Commerce (which I heard Dan controls) and Tourism in the past. So, it makes me think that if Dan tries to control Tourism anyway he can. Getting Stoney to be against anything Tourism wants is one way. Just speculation of course, but makes you wonder. I sure would hate to think I was controlled by that little balding man who suffers from short man syndrome. Shameful!

Friday, August 28, 2009 9:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, that is one commissioner I hope district 2 does not re-elect if he is such a yes man. Does anyone know when he is up for re-election? We all need to stand together and vote all the yes men and women out of office.

Friday, August 28, 2009 12:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All county offices are up for re-election next year except for Road Superintendent, Tax Assessor, and Dist. 2, 4 & 6 School Board Members. Let's show them who is boss and vote out those who will not listen to the people. We could be replacing quite a few. Off the bat those that need to go are Bill Holt, Tommy Campbell, Tim Risner, Billy Beets, Ramona Flacy, Terry Harwell, James Harwell, Edwin Lovell, Chan Harris, David Adams and Rose Brown. We just need to cleanse the entire commission and get some new folks to listen to us.

Monday, August 31, 2009 12:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope we have some honest and trustworthy people who will run for these offices. We need people who are for the citizens not for the crooks. Let all citizens stand up for the county and get the bad people out of office. It is time Giles County be ran by honest people. I am one that can not handle anymore taxes. It is time for budgets be cut and taxes lower.

Monday, August 31, 2009 1:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with you 1:50 and would say that the majority of households can't afford an increase in their bills and debt. But, it is up to the people to convince some good people to run so we can have a positive change in our local government. We keep complaining but we also keep electing the same idiots over and over.

Monday, August 31, 2009 5:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It sounds like there Seems to be some rift between tourism and the chamber of commerce.

I have heard that Tourism has moved or been moved to the courthouse.

I have also been told that our little big man could not control the T people as well as he controls the CoC.

Any truth in this???????

Tuesday, September 01, 2009 11:58:00 PM  
Anonymous wab said...

To 11:58 you hit the truth all over. The Chamber was draining Tourism at every opportunity and basically double dipping into county funds by charging Tourism about 12,000 a year rent for their little space. 12,000 a year just happens to be the amount the county gives to Tourism each year. Now that they are moving into the Courthouse Basement perhaps they will have enough money to do more. Are you aware that the director of Tourism makes just over minimum wage while the director of the Chamber makes $56,000.00. Think salary is a bit out of balance then you would be amazed at what each director actually does for that salary. Allen Barrett

Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually what does the Chamber of Commerce in Pulaski do.

Wednesday, September 02, 2009 1:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like this might make in interesting topic for blogging and finding out what is going on there.

Saturday, September 05, 2009 10:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dan has made the comment that Tourism would not be around in amother year. What's so funny is he may not be either. Go to the poles folks and vote for anyone except him. This is serious. Our county is broke now and we can't stand another four years of the short man.

Friday, October 02, 2009 9:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tourism maybe a little safer now that they are out of the Chamber of Commerce building and paying almost all if not all of their county alotment out to CoC for renting "their little corner of the building." Thanks to the county for providing tourism some space in the courthouse.

Now they can use their money to help promoted tourism and Giles County in Tennesse and the rest of the country.

But it sounds as if the CoC misses having Tourism in the office---They now have to lock up the office when they need to be out of the office since they no longer have an office sitting service.

Melanie

Saturday, October 03, 2009 8:56:00 AM  

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