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Tuesday, January 19, 2010

Cost To Fight Against Financial Management

Finally after all this time and a threat to file an Ethics Violation with the State, the required financial statement showing how much money was spent by Commissioner Lovell to fight against the adoption of the Financial Management Act has been filed. I say how much money Commissioner Lovell spent because according to the statement there were no contributions from any one else, no loans made by anyone and no obligations for any expense.
So with no signatures on any page and every available block filled in with N/A it seems a very passive aggressive person complied in part by stating that he spent $2,295.00 on ads in the Free Press and $1,212.00 for ads on WKSR. Allen Barrett

61 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Passive/aggressive? So Mr. Barrett is an expert in psychiatric diagnoses? What a joke. Looks like they are once again after Mr. Lovell, but here's the problem. You don't have anything on him, do you. So, in the absence of that, it's ok to crucify and run him down? Shameful.

Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No. What is shameful is an elected official going against the wishes of the voters and trying to get financial management voted out. My question is why would an elected official spend more than $3,500 of his own money to fight the wishes of the people and recruit other elected officials to join him in the fight? Created a black mark against them as well as Mr Lovell himself.

Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So the witch hunt goes on for Mr. Lovell. Have you ever stopped to consider that he is an honorable man who has no hidden agenda? I seriously doubt it, but you are determined to get him anyhow. Right? I wonder how many meetings you guys have had concerning him? I'll bet those were not open to the public.

Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I cannot believe that Lovell used $3,500.00 of his own personal money to fight the wishes of the people. I feel like he was not alone in that venture. He'll have to live with his conscience if he lied on that document.

Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lovell is a mean vindictive person when he don't get his way. Just ask some people who have done business with him.

Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:29:00 PM  
Anonymous wab said...

To3:47 After working for a number of years as a psychiatric social worker I believe I can identify passive aggressive behavior as well as most and better than many.
I'm not after Mr Lovell any more than he is probably after me there are just some things that we disagree on.
Allen Barrett

Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:41:00 PM  
Anonymous The Real Deadman said...

Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:38:00 PM

I don't believe anyone is out to get Commissioner Lovell. I believe the facts were being presented. If his was the only name on the from, I'm glad he can stand up for what he believes in, but the majority of Giles Countians disagreed with him. So he should have conceded the fight gracefully.

Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:22:00 AM  
Anonymous The Real Deadman said...

Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:38:00 PM

By the way, where do you get off questioning anyones credentials? You have deemed your self a psychiatrist by diagmosing us with your self proclaimed Hook, Line and Sinker Syndrome. Please, just return to the rubber room you escaped from and enjoy coloring and drooling on your self again.

Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:29
A mean and vindictive person when he doesn't get his way? Aren't you describing wab there?

to wab...
How is Mr. Lovell out to get you? Sounds a little like paranoia on your part.

dead...
Can you not see that there is an organized effort to get Mr. Lovell? He doesn't click with the "us" referred to in the 3:50 post, so they want his head. Don't be naive.

Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To: 5:29:00 AM
The more I read your post the more, I think you need to see a doctor.

WAB didn't say Lovell was after him, you need to read his post again.

You have a big problem and if you keep on no one in office in Giles county will be elected again. Everyone is wondering just which one you are.

Wednesday, January 20, 2010 7:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Learn to read anonymous WAB didn't say anything about Lovell being out to get him. That's the way you operate though twisted words and even more twisted logic. If you had any sense of decency you wouldn't just apologize you'd crawl off and hide.

Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is the problem with Lovell spending "his" money to fight something that he doesn't want or believe in.....I cannot even believe this has been posted. I do not know Lovell and do disagree with him on this issue...but come on...this is ridiculous!!!

Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The witch hunt by a small band of malcontents intent on taking over is what's ridiculous. And this cannot be truthfully denied, can it? No.

Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The witch hunt by a small band of malcontents intent on taking over is what's ridiculous. And this cannot be truthfully denied, can it? No.

Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:11:00 PM  
Anonymous JAD said...

The problem as I understand it is he refused to comply with state law in filing a financial disclosure statement and when he finally did it was not in compliance. Many believe that money was collected from those in his group which would make him a liar and be another violation of the law.

Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:15:00 PM  
Anonymous wab said...

To 20 Jan 6:11
"The witch hunt by a small band of malcontents intent on taking over is what's ridiculous. And this cannot be truthfully denied, can it? No."

I deny this was a witch hunt that there exist a small group of malcontents, that there is a plot to take over anything, that this is ridiculous and I can do it all truthfully.
JAD is on the right track as to why this was done. State law requires that a financial disclosure statement be filed by anyone or any group who bans together for the purpose of defeating or promoting a political issue. As Mr. Lovell's ads in the paper listed others as apart of his group to defeat the Financial Management Act and the request was printed seeking others to join with them they were required to file such a statement but did not. When questions were asked the elections board requested that the proper paperwork be filed. The disclosure form was submitted in a manner that simply showed a great deal of passive aggressiveness by leaving most everything blank including the signature. The only thing listed was the approximate $3,500.00 that Mr. Lovell claimed he spent from his personal funds.
I am not necessarily in agreement with JAD in his assessment of Mr Lovell's motivation. Allen Barrett

Wednesday, January 20, 2010 7:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wab...
Of course you would deny it. That's both predictable and understandable.

Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How many Presidents have had things they did or someone thought they did told on them.

That's just the way it goes, so if you can't take the heat don't run for poticial office, somebody is going to go after you.

Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, it's that same little group who are out to get the ones they have selected out for a good tar and feathering party. And you know that.

Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:27:00 AM  
Anonymous The Real Deadman said...

Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:27:00 AM

You are so insane, I have absolutely no political agenda whatsoever. I support no candidate at this time. You boldly accuse people without having facts. A trait you claim someone else is guilty of. As usual, you have inserted your foot into your mouth. Oh well, we can deal with it.

Saturday, January 23, 2010 11:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dead...
You are wrong once again. In my opinion, you are either ignorant of what is going on or you are trying to deny it. I have my facts on this, and I stand by what I said. That's my right, isn't it?
You can't seem to grasp the idea that it's people like you who are in the business of accusing. I simply offer rebuttal and challenge you to lay down your guns (figuratively) and try to work with those elected officials you have so splendidly alienated from you. It's no wonder that they avoid people like you. But you never thought of that, did you? Oh, and I have the facts on that as well.

Sunday, January 24, 2010 7:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7:49
You said, "Isimply offer rebuttal"
The only rebuttal I've seen you offer is to go off on WAB or those you think are his friends. Well I don't know the man, but I do see when he starts a thread, you never tell why it's wrong just condem WAB. That's not rebuttal.

Sunday, January 24, 2010 9:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9:06
And I stand by what I said. Yes, I offer rebuttal and of course I oppose wab and his buddies when they try to trash people they have selected out for persecution.
Forgive me, but I thought we were supposed to pray for those we think evil and corrupt. Is that not what the Bible teaches? And if we just don't agree with an elected official's policies or stance on issues, there's always the voting booth. Why is that so difficult to understand? Is there something I'm missing?

Sunday, January 24, 2010 12:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If someone didn't point out what an elected official is doing wrong how would people know who to vote for.
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with any elected offical in Giles county, just pointing out people have to be shown what is wrong and what is right.
Sorry that's just the American way, so you have to live with it.
If someone is saying someone said something wrong, Prove it! Take it to the DA.

Sunday, January 24, 2010 12:48:00 PM  
Anonymous The Real Deadman said...

Sunday, January 24, 2010 7:49:00 AM

I have no clue who you think you are talking to, but you know absolutely nothing about me, or what my values are. How dare you think you can judge what you THINK you know? You have no facts about anything you object to. You have never brought one fact to light here, you simply "REBUT". and I quote, "I simply offer rebuttal and challenge you to lay down your guns (figuratively) and try to work with those elected officials you have so splendidly alienated from you." How long have these elected officials been in office? Have people been trying to work with them? Maybe they are tired of not having their voices heard. Also, they avoid people like me? What kind of person am I? Please tell me. And since I am probably "ignorant", use small words so that I can understand them. You hound everyone on this site about there arrogance and the way they talk down to others and then you have the audacity to speak to me this way? You sir are the northbound end of a southbound donkey, and your head is inserted in the northbound end. You have no clue from whence you speak, and I for one wish you would put up or shut up. How dare you!!

Sunday, January 24, 2010 10:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dead
You can quote me verbatim all day long and it's not going to change one word about what I have said.
What kind of person are you? I have no clue. But I will say that you are quick tpo call people names and attempt to belittle those like me who do not share your views. For example, I noticed that you just called me insane. And that's not the first time you've called a name or described me in some derogatory way. How dare you!!
Let me say this again. I have absolutely no problem with you having your views on whatever subject. My problem is and remains the fact that there are those who get on this blog and call people everything in the book. I believe it's wrong, and that's why I offer "rebuttals" to the mean-spirited attacks. Ok?

Monday, January 25, 2010 6:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:05 & 6:31 You are without a doubt the most self-righteous hypocrite I have ever in my life come across.

Monday, January 25, 2010 10:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:16 Of course I am, because I don't agree with anything you say.

Monday, January 25, 2010 5:17:00 PM  
Anonymous alf said...

No 5:17 not because you don't agree but because you measure everything from the faulty measure of your own life and opinions without benefit of fact or principle.

Monday, January 25, 2010 9:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9:32
What? Hve you been drinking? I think you are projecting your own inadequacies in life onto me.

Tuesday, January 26, 2010 6:33:00 AM  
Anonymous The Real Deadman said...

Monday, January 25, 2010 6:31:00 AM

I very rarely say this, but you sir are a bold faced liar. Not once in my post did I call you insane. I stated many things in it, but never did I call you insane. What I did say is that you once again have accused others of your faults. I have never disagreed with your right to speak your mind, only with your blatant disregard for using facts. So I say again, you are a liar.

Thursday, January 28, 2010 10:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dead...
I would refer you to your January 23rd post at 11:35 wherein you began your spewings by calling me insane. So who is the bold-faced liar? I accuse others of my faults? Are you serious?
When may I expect your apology for calling me a liar?

Friday, January 29, 2010 5:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Insane??? Of course you are insane. You can add to that a liar and a real piece of dung!

Friday, January 29, 2010 11:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:00
Do you typically call people names and act so childishly when they don't see things YOUR way? It doesn't make you look very intelligent.

Friday, January 29, 2010 3:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What see you in a name
buy some it's shame
by others fame
they claim

Be it when
instead of then
we see the old hen
crowing & scolding again

Saturday, January 30, 2010 12:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

riddler
I see you are back with your usual Hemingway quality prose. I am vry impressed. Your spewing and hatred are noted. What a joke.

Saturday, January 30, 2010 1:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

riddler...
Would you care to interpret your poem for an illiterate like me? I'm fairly certain that it's something negative about Mrs. Vanzant or someone else you have been told to see as evil and corrupt.
How about a poem about Hook, Line, and Sinker Syndrome? You could throw in the idea that sometimes people find it easier to allow just one spiteful and angry person to convince them to think the same way. That would be an unusual departure from your work, but I think it something worth pursuing.

Saturday, January 30, 2010 1:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

someone who thinks but can't
is dedicated to idle rant
and imbecillic chant
blames Ms VanZant?

Tis you I see
caught in a tizzy
hair knarled and frizzy
eyes twirrled & mind so dizzy

Sunday, January 31, 2010 11:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

riddler...
I'm impressed as usual, but could you address my request?

Sunday, January 31, 2010 11:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Saturday, January 30, 2010 1:49:00 PM

There is two ways to look at Hook Line and Sinker. Some people swallow what ever anyone tells them whether public official or just a citizen.

So drop the HLSS remark.... it could go for you also.

I couldn't care less which side anyone is on, just tired of HLSS. Not cute.

Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:32
Sorry, but I can't drop what appears to be a bonafide disorder which seems peculiar to Giles County. The condition is caused by one's
failing to think for self and instead blindly following the hate-filled spewings of a very bitter and spiteful individual. It is quite contagious as evidenced by what you see on this blog. But I do not have it. Sorry to disapppoint you again.

Sunday, January 31, 2010 7:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

724 As I see it, no one listens to you, no one respects you & you have lost all power to influence anyone. Every time corruption raises it's head, it gets whacked - of course the dummy riding lookout atop that head of corruption (you) gets another whack & falls further into oblivion.

You've swallowed your garbage bait & been beached so many times, you think rotting on the beach is normal. Unfortunately, those who see you rotting on the beach kick you back in, hoping you'll rot on the bottom - but in goes another line, you swallow, & there you are - flies & all.

Monday, February 01, 2010 11:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11:44
My, but haven't we been busy with the spewings? As I see it, you seem to be listening to me quite closely.
You need to get some serious help for HLSS. I wish you would listen to that advice before your mental problems and hatred worsen. Gracious!

Monday, February 01, 2010 3:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11:44
My, but haven't we been busy with the spewings? As I see it, you seem to be listening to me quite closely.
You need to get some serious help for HLSS. I wish you would listen to that advice before your mental problems and hatred worsen. Gracious!

Monday, February 01, 2010 3:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3:26 seems to be getting nervous. They keep posting each post more than once. I guess they think everyone will pay more attention if they post it more that once.

Monday, February 01, 2010 6:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6:16
The only thing I am nervous about is this slow computer that sometimes posts twice. I'll have to buy another one, and they aren't cheap.

Monday, February 01, 2010 10:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ain't the computer - it's sticky fingers - touchy keepy - specially when it comes to money mongering

Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Or your hate-mongering and spewings.

Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Computers post twice, without the person being upset and hitting it twice???

Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:21
That's right, particularly when the computer is worn out.

Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Want the county buy you a new computer?

Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7:20
Absolutely not! I pay my own way without any help from the county.

Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9:05
You talk like you post from home. I've noticed some of you post this week was in the middle of the day when you should be working.
I'm retired.
Now tell me to get a job.
Take a job some younger person with a family to support needs?

Wednesday, February 03, 2010 7:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

She supposely works, but thats her opinion. Not everyone agrees with that.

Wednesday, February 03, 2010 8:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:54 That's just what I'm been thinking.

Wednesday, February 03, 2010 1:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7:54
Have you ever heard of being off on vacation or having the day off? But it's none of your business about my work schedule. What's the point anyway?

Wednesday, February 03, 2010 3:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You need a permanent vacation!!!!!

Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9:10
Sure you would think that, because I oppose what people like you are trying to do.

Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3:52 you haven't gotten it yet? You are held in such high esteem that anything you oppose is actually an endorsement for sane people.

Thursday, February 04, 2010 4:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

4:27
You're such a comedian.

Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would say more like truthful.

Thursday, February 04, 2010 8:07:00 PM  

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