Commission Cowers And Restores Speer Money
After showing a strong backbone in the called meeting, last week, the Legislative Body of Giles put back into the budget the more than $66,000 cut because of the lavish personal benefits being given Mr Speer.
Today after a powerful speech by Commissioner Pollard against funding the entire $66,000 and intense questioning by Commissioner Howell the vote was taken and with two commissioners absent everyone but Commissioner Howell voted to give the full amount to the Industrial development Board.
There was an unusual amount of threats about lost grants and businesses if the money was not restored and the entire budget funded. The interesting thing that came out today is that no Commissioner admitted having actually seen the budget Mr Speer made. It is my understanding that a budget must be presented and approved by the Legislative Body, today the Legislative Body was basically ordered to fund Mr Speer's bloated budget. Now the question is if he had asked for $80,000 in his phantom budget according to those who spoke for it, it had to be approved..... what utter nonsense. If a reasonable budget had been presented that called for $40,000 it could have been fully funded and not actually considered a cut that would jeopardize any grants, but then the Country Club might have been cut out and that is important, as one speaker stated the Country Club is in financial trouble and needs to be supported. Well, let the members deal with that problem without tax money. Later that same speaker stated that they hadn't even used the Country Club for years..... well then, if it isn't used why did they pay over a thousand dollars last year for a membership with tax money while many of those taxpayers are struggling to pay those taxes and electric bills? Yes, many promises were made to take a “closer look” at that budget “next year” but the truth of the matter is it could have been changed today in less than an hour. My concern is that this is as empty a promise, as those past promises, to provide copies of their budget to the Legislative Body.
We also found out that the $1,000.00 given to the “Songwrites Night” and credited to Mr Speer personally was a mistake on Martin Methodist College part, but if that is true, why did Mr Speer sit in the special section for those who donated a thousand dollars and said nothing when he was given special recognition as a donor? No, I fear, based on past broken promises, all the right promises were made but they are as empty as a bucket with no bottom and no sides, only a handle.
I fully support every effort to get jobs here, to build the infrastructure that would bring those jobs, but a membership in a Country Club that no one supposedly uses; excessive amounts for health insurance for someone who isn’t even an employee of the county, city or PES, where the majority of the funding comes from; having HD TV and more phones than employees, (does anyone other than Mr Speer have a cellphone that cost over $150.00 a month?) ; and feeding some wealthy members each month. Today it was stated that the meals only cost about six or seven dollars, well even that is more than many can spend on meals over three days. The problem is if the meals are only six or seven dollars each why are they paying $170.00 a month for those meals, which if $7.00 each would feed over twenty –four people, more than double the number on the Board. Now, one other thing about the meals, Mrs Vanzant no longer eats free there and I certainly commend her for that decision.
73 Comments:
Could see that coming a mile away--got the tie at the commission meeting to get it back into the loaded committee without seeing a budget or making any stipulations. Bet he wasn't even here. And of course all the "grants" well lose??? Anyone know what that entails? What abut the grant for the solar park that turned around an dell on the city of Pulaski? Same ol same ol again.
Barrett,
There is very little that you and I see eye-to-eye on, but this is one in which I totally agree with you. Not only do I think Dan Speer, just like Mr. Jackson, should be replaced; I believe that budget should have been cut drastically.
As a Christian and a gentleman, I would never go along with things I believe to be wrong.
Barrett, You amaze me! You can take a discussion and pull two or three things out of it twist the hell out of them and write all day. Why don't you try writing about the whole story for once not just what interests you. Include all the facts and not just a couple of your commentaries. If you did this and reported in an honest fashion you might not be the most hated man in Giles County.
You should read the title of this gargage blog before you post each one of your topics.
To 6:04: Who would you suggest replace Mr. Speer?
By any chance is 8:12 Dan Speer?
812, so what is the complete story?
8:12
Although I am not the one to whom you asked the question I will answer. Any one who is honest and has an education and background in business and not psychiatry. Some one who does not market his families insurance company to every one who wants to do business in Giles County. But most importantly some one who will put in a full day, marketing Giles County to industries and is educated enough to bring business here. Some one that does not tell businesses what they should pay as hourly wages to employees. Some one that companies do not have to sneak around and work with the state economic development and Governor from fear of being roadblocked like Walmart Distribution and Toyota as well as others. I can go on but thee is just to much to list.
You accuse Barrett of only pulling two or three things out and not telling the whole story so what do you believe to be the whole story?
To 6:04 I appreciate your comment. I don't expect everyone to agree with my views, if they did it would be a very boring world. I do however have the hope others would simply take my comments, consider if they are true then discuss the merits of both sides.
Again, I do appreciate your comment.
To 8:12 Would you mind specifically telling what you consider to have been so abusively twisted.
Certainly I didn't post word for word only the highlights and none were twisted or altered. Ridiculous statements were made, example "the country club (membership) was started back when (Mr) Barnes was here, Mr Speer don't play golf, we don't use it anymore". Now the meeting was video taped and hopefully will be played on the PES station sometime soon, I have my doubts, but people will be able to see for their-self. I would still like to know if the club membership isn't used why did they pay the dues all of last year?
Why would I write about things that don't interest me? Do you read books that don't interest you? I did report all the facts, maybe not as you would have liked but one thing about this blog is you can present your version of the facts if you choose, you can even post word for word what was said including the parts that were not interesting to you.
As for your last question, "Who would you suggest replace Mr. Speer?". Are you suggesting that Mr Speer is the only qualified person on the planet that can do the job? As I understand it Mr Speer basically appointed himself without any attempts to recruit any competitor,(remember everyone that was involved with his appointment had been appointed by him to those positions, at the time he didn't even have a background or training to do the job. Who could replace Mr Speer, just about anyone. There are many just as qualified as Mr Speer, but there has been no effort to recruit them. For the amount of money spent and the number of jobs created here my granddaughter could be as effective as Mr Speer at a fourth of the cost.
The intelligent people (majority of commissioners)can see that this is simply a vandetta by a few folks against Dan Speer. Maybe jealousy because he has been successful in assisting with the landing the largest industrial recruitment project in decades! And they didn't get credit!
Again, name one person more qualified to do his job?
853..........hahahahahahahhshHaha,boooooohhhaaaaaaaaaahhheeeeeeeehaaaaaaa,......really thanks for he laugh!
Speer had hardly anything to do with
"landing the largest industrial recruitment project in decades!".
Marelli worked through the state development not the local development board, they were set to come here before Speer even knew there was talks going on.
9:19
Hey dumbass! Call the Plant Manager at Magneti and ask her who all assisted her in landing this!
And report back THE TRUTH if you possibly can!
See! You don't have a clue how this came about...your opinion is wrong again!
FYI - The Country Club is a huge asset to Pulaski and Giles County. I should be supported by every business, industry and professional person here.
Obviously, it is not physically and financially where it should be, but if we ever lose the it, it will be sorely missed. I we ever lose Hillcrest,we will be at a huge marketting disadvantage from areas that have one.
Why if EDC payed for the songwriters and it was a mistake putting Speer's name as sponsor why does he take his wife and not new company's.
10:21 AMEN! But Barrett and cronies can't see the forest for the trees!
Where is Ray? Still asleep? When you con the government out of disability I guess you get to sleep in all day.
Barrett you should join the country club. It might teach you some social skills. Or get elected to something (get Rackley on your side to tamper with the voting machines would be your only chance of winning anything) and you could use EDC's membership.
Hey that could be an idea for a fundraiser. Let golfers take shots at Barrett. Kinda like a hole-in-one. If you hit him you win a new car!
Hey I don't think anyone is upset about Hillcrest being supported by individuals but using tax money is another thing and using it for personal benefits at taxpayer expense is outrageous.
I could give a rats butt if you take pot shots at Barrett he seems able to take care of himself but he is right on this matter and there ain't no way to make him wrong on this issue at least.
Here's an idea why don't you guys who are so concerned about the country club just give them an extra donation each month and leave tax money alone.
11:49 I like your post. I wonder if all the people posting supporting the country club belong on their own dime.
Most people can't do the things they use to because they can't afford it.
I don't like my tax money being spent on someone else going to the country club.
So if executives are in Giles County looking to possibly locate here, they should be taken to McDonalds, right? You are probably impressed by McDonalds but I doubt they would be. I also doubt you ever attended or been invited to attend a social event that most of these executives are acustom at such places as Hillcrest.
who owns Hillcrest and who sits on the board?
How often does speer carry executives from out of town to eat at the country club? How many times did he take them there last year?
Hillcrest Country club is a dump! No one would take a serious client there for lunch. It is barely hanging on until the IRS past taxes are paid. Families do not drop their children off there either.
The county should buy it and make a social setting for Barret and Friends to discuss important issues and social events for the county. Maybe a new headquarters for this PATHETIC BLOG".
Barrett
So is the first paragraph of your 8:52 post an apology to me for calling me an enabler of wrongdoings? If so, then I forgive you, and we can proceed to bury the proverbial hatchet.
Hell CG, I am not Barrett; but, I do believe that you are an enabler of wrong doing, an idiot, and a self-serving chest thumping self proclaimed Christian who insists forcing everyone to march to his tune.
A true Christian (as was Jesus Christ) does not go around proclaiming that he is a Christian and use that proclamation as an excuse to be correct on whatever subject matter is a hand.
If you were more like Jesus and practiced humility; I just might appreciate you. Until then you are a total fool, ver laughable and an extreme enabler of wrong doing.
And ... by the way.... people do not tell lies "on" you ... they tell lies "about" you.
You act a little insane 5:49. Calm down before that pea brain explodes.
Typical response CG.
Try again.....you are a very easy target
By the way...no one has ever told a lie on or about me; and I do not care.
5:49/6:49
Think what you will. I don't need your stamp of approval anyhow.
Oh, and I believe my question was addressed to Barrett and not to you.
Yes, Christians can and do go about professing to be followers of Christ. It's unfortunate that you find that irritating.
Followers of Christ do profess to be followers of Christ; but they do not use that profession to justify themselves to be enablers of wrong doing and forcing others to their way of thinking.
Their actions and not their words justify their belief.
7:36
That's why I claim to be a follower of Christ and not an enabler of wrongdoing. In fact, it is my opinion that YOU are a true enabler of wrongdoing by constantly trying to keep this stirred up. In the name of the Father, I will defend myself against people like you. I have that right and responsibility.
I'm sorry that my Christian beliefs and convictions offend you. But this is nothing new; it's been going on since the days of Christ on earth.
Please tell me you have something more to discuss than what I believe and practice. Is there anything else? My actions and words seem only to offend you. Get over them. And since when does a Christian "force" anyone to do anything?
When did posting I'm a Christian become proof of enabling wrong doing?
When did it become proof of anything when others don't know who the person us?
I didn't post any of the above post this evening and I didn't ask cg if I could join in on post. Free speech anybody can post can't they cg?
10:10
Posting that one is a Christian and a gentleman when a lie is told on him that he willfully goes along with wrongdoing is indeed acceptable proof to the contrary. Additional proof would be that individual's disdain for Dan Speer, Tee Jackson, and the way our budget is being mishandled. What about those apples?
Being a Christian SHOULD BE enough proof, but the other just confirms that the lie was told.
When you don't know who a person is, how do you know he isn't lying about being a Christian?
Do you believe everything that is posted on a blog?
I'm just saying that isn't proof.
11:20
Well, since saying one is a Christian is not good enough, what abut the comments about Speer, Jackson, and the budget? Does that sound like I am willfully going along with that I believe to be wrong?
No, I don't believe everything I see on this blog. Lies are told here routinely. Saying that I would willfully go along with things I believe to be wrong is a good example.
Enabler,
Why must you always try to make this blog about you and your claims to Christianity? Like that is some how proof of something? Be the example as opposed to explaining how you are the example because you claim to be a Christian. It is not Christians posting that make people sick but your pompous, self righteous boasting of how you must be right because of your claims of Christianity is what people hate. And by the way we have all seen your posts that have enabled wrongdoing of certain people who you have claimed to be the most honest people you know. Just because you single out a few who you do not like is not proof you do not enable as well. You do not enable their behavior, which is a start, but you scream and whine, and even lie to defend those you like. Your enabling has turned selective and a lot of people on this blog have noticed it. Oh yeah you think just one or two people read this blog. Laughable. Any way I'm sure you will come right back with some snide remark to show how Christianl you are.
7:29
Why don't YOU stop being an enabler of a lie? Don't you think this is getting a bit ridiculous?
I think the only people who are sick of what I have to say are those like you. Let this go, and you will never here another word from me about it. I have asked you many times to simply stop it, but this seems to be some kind of sick game you are playing.
I had to laugh when you accused me of singling out those I dislike. Isn't that really what this blog is all about? What a joke!
I never said that I am a great example of Christianity, but I AM a Christian. I make my share of mistakes just as you and anyone else does. But I do know the Bible tells me that I cannot truly repent unless I give up or turn away from sin in my life. And I'm taling about the sin a person refuses to give up. I mentioned the adulterous man who is playing at church as an example.
Again, when you stop enabling the lie, I will never make mention of it again. Do you just delight in this mischief?
7:52 I didn't post 7:29 or have I said you enable wrong doing, but I agree that simply saying, "I'm a Christian" isn't proof of anything.
8:42
Opinions are like noses...everybody has one. God knows I'm a Christian, and that is good enough for me. HE accepts me, but you can't. That's fine.
4:30 Why can't you except God knows you are a Christian and let it go. God knows you, he sees everything you do, a lot of people reading this blog don't know you.
:14
I would never mention it again if the one or two who keep falsely accusing me of enabling wrong would simply stop it.
3:21
I'm not accusing you of enabling, just simply saying posting "I'm a Christian" doesn't prove you are.
3:29
I have explained this over and over and over, The ONLY reason I ever mentioned that I am a Christian was to refute the lie that was told on me. That was apparently not good enough, and I was judged a liar.
All you have to do is say you agree saying "I'm a Christian" don't make it true to the people that don't know you that you are a Christian.
8:23
I agree with that, but I also said I think people like Dan Speer and Mr. Jackson need to go. I also stated that I do not like the way out budget is being handled. Add those things to the fact that I am a Christian, and that shows that it's a lie that I enable wrongdoings.
9:10 All that means is that you are not friends with, or may personally have something against those people, like you do against Barrett, so you do not enable some of their behavior. But as far as Vanzant, Harwell, Coleman, and any one you deem to be the most honest people you know, then you are all about enabling.
9:38
No, you are promoting the low-down lie that was told on me. Just because I don't see things EXACTLY as you and Barrett do does NOT mean I enable wrong. Stop promoting that lie. Can't you just let this go? We are all entitled to our own views. That seems to be something you guys can't and never will tolerate.
When did I say the people you mentioned are the most honest I've everr seen? That too is a low-down lie. Nobody among us is so perfect.
Let this go and stop promoting a lie. Is there an issue you want to discuss other than me?
9:10
Go ask Barrett if he's a Christian and if Christians should be calling people nasty names and making all sorts of accustions against them? Demand proof if he claims to be a Christian. Since you insist on continuing this game, let's be fair. Go ask him. Ok?
9:38
Sorry. The 10:17 post was directed to you as well.
Seriously guys, who pooted??
9:10 Thanks that was my only complaint. I only posted Thursday 8:23 not these others.
Ok guys and gals let's give it rest she/he has agreed that saying "I'm a Christian" isn't proof she/he is.
Let's get back to the topic of the thread.
When the budget was first cut, it didn't completely cut Dan Speer's job out did it? If not he should pay his other things himself and I am disappointed with the commissioners.
When Speer takes someone out in trying to get them to locate a business here the county should pay for that meal.
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 2:57:00 PM
Asked a good question, then the blog got sabotaged by Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:21:00 PM and started a round of bull.
Could we get back and someone answer 2:57's post.
3:56
No, I simply stated that I would forgive him if he would stop.
Sept 18 1:05
Dan Speer owns it and his wife is on the Board!
11:21 Now I see why the commissioners want to give money for speer to belong to the country club.
lol
Don't for these commissioner at election time.
The Country Club membership belongs to Economic Development. For you short sighted people, the country club is a vital part of our county's economic development.
The entire community should support Hillcrest.
7:45 You can belong, I don't want to.
Don't care to play Goff or swim.
I'm just a country boy that grew up behind a plow.
Why 7:45? It is not very appealing for a private club.
If the country club is vital to Giles County and it reflects the condition of this county .... no wonder we are in financial distress.
Go Dan go! You are doing a teriffic job!
Look at small towns with successful Country clubs vs those that do not, then you will see how vital one is. In the mean time, keep giving yourself little credit, and keep Giles County struggling!
Maybe the county should by some Bentleys to cart prospective businesses around town. The Club has suffered under terrible management and cheap members for many years, why should those who don't use it subsidize it for those who do?
The elite get bigger and the rest get fleeced.
Maybe the elite get bigger because you allow yourselves to be fleeced?
Instead of jealousy and resentment, let's all pray for one another and try to make our county a better place to live. Instead of hating, why can't we lay all this aside and treat each other with respect? Isn't that what the Lord would have us do?
Let us all lay down at the feet of the shepard and allow the county to fleece us.
7:24
Don't hate.
7:24
Why can't you who hate begin to pray for those you feel despitefully use you? That's what the Bible teaches, you know.
I guess some are so hard headed that they can not keep the salvation discussion in the specified post. Psychos.
8:33
Should religious discussion be restricted to just one thread? I don't think so.
When the religious discussion has nothing to do with the thread subject it should not be posted here but on the thread that is dedicated to it. Please do not bore us and redirect the discussion of post topics with your preaching and your theological ideologies. If you want to preach then do it in front of your congregation or go out and work to get you one. As far as most of us are concerned we do not appreciate you hijacking the blog with religious crap.
5:33
Stop the hate.
Why don't the county highway dept sharpen their blades on their bushhogs? They twist off more than they cut. Rekon' they know how to sharpen a blade? It is Barry Hyatt's responsibility to make sure the taxpayers get what they put him in that position to do and that is upkeep the roads and keep the sides of the road mowed. Is that so hard? And when he says he needs more money, tell him to do as we have to do, set our priorities. Roads, and sides of roads are more important than having too many employees that are riding around in a vehicles. 4 peoples in a truck riding and 1 person on a tractor bushhogging. The priorities are in the wrong order.
So is it now Barry Hyatt's turn again? I knew it was getting about time.
7:25 Does it really matter who is talked about, Hyatt, Speer, vanzant or cg? Noticed you like to correct spelling in the above topic.
Stop the HATE!
WWJD about those bush hog blades?
What does Bob Jarrett have to do with anything?
Ray Lanier
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