Commentary About The McAlister Lawsuit
In this week's edition of the Pulaski Citizen, I was afforded the opportunity to respond to a previous commentary by Mr. Clay McAlister which was filled with inaccuracies and vicious accusations.
I greatly appreciate the editor of the paper allowing me the opportunity to respond and appreciate the limitations she was bound to observe such as length and subject matter. The commentary I submitted to the paper was edited with my approval. While that commentary was correct in every detail there was some information that had to be deleted because of length. I am now posting my comments in their entirety.
16 August 2012
I greatly appreciate the editor of the paper allowing me the opportunity to respond and appreciate the limitations she was bound to observe such as length and subject matter. The commentary I submitted to the paper was edited with my approval. While that commentary was correct in every detail there was some information that had to be deleted because of length. I am now posting my comments in their entirety.
16 August 2012
To the Editor. This is a rebuttal to the claims,
distortions and comments made against me by Mr. Clay McAlister in the 7 August
edition of the newspaper. I appreciate this opportunity to present my version
of the events discussed by Mr. McAlister in that commentary. Thank you, Allen
Barrett, 1318 Jackson Drive Pulaski; phone 363-1983.
In the 7 August edition of this newspaper a
commentary by Mr. Clay McAlister made a number of accusations and erroneous
claims about me. My purpose in this statement is to set the record straight and
refute those gross inaccuracies.
In the very first sentence it’s claimed I refer to
myself as a “troublemaker.” The fact is I actually stated to the reporter that
“some have referred to me as a “trouble maker”. Personally, I prefer the nickname given me by
Mr. Larry Britten, “government watchdog”.
Mr. McAlister claims I had placed two of my campaign
signs within four inches in the front of Mrs. Vanzant’s and two approximately
five feet behind her sign. Anyone who saw my signs knows they were
approximately five feet in front and behind her signs and in his sworn
testimony Mr. McAlister acknowledged that they were four to five feet away from
Mrs. Vanzant’s sign.
My signs had been placed in those positions because
earlier they had been removed and replaced by the Vanzant sign.
I videotaped Mr. McAlister as he removed two of my
signs and cast them down the hillside. He then moved to the other side of the
road making an illegal U-turn on Mill Street. Mr. McAlister claims he moved to
the other side of the road to fix Terry Harwell’s sign, but didn’t realize that
his sign was a very large piece of plywood attached to two metal fence posts
that could have easily been seen from across the street.
As Mr. McAlister started to re-enter his truck, I
approached and told him how shocked I was to find out he was nothing but a
common thief. I was immediately bombarded with a stream of vile cuss words. I
then told Mr. McAlister that I was calling the police and he quickly left the
scene.
A couple of weeks prior to this event I had gone to
Chief Dickey and another officer and reported a large number of my signs
missing. I was informed that nothing
could be done unless I brought in proof of who was taking them, that’s when I
decided to try and catch the thieves.
After I received a copy of the 911 call made by Mr.
McAlister, I found that I wasn’t the only person to receive a severe cussing
from him that evening. Later I found out that Mr. McAlister had gone to officer
Glossup’s home around 10:00 pm and presented him with the same kind of vile
cussing the 911 operator and I had received earlier.
Mr. McAlister stated he saw Lt. Glossup pull onto
Hwy. 11 and heard on his scanner that Lt. Glossup was told he wanted to speak
to him. Mr. McAlister is a former Highway Patrol Officer, a former Judicial
Magistrate, is currently appointed to the Minor Hill Water Board, and
occasionally conducts driver school for the court. He obviously considers
himself a very important person deserving of special treatment that he stated
under oath “he would not give to someone else”.
How often does the person being investigated get to
dictate where, when, and how that investigation is conducted? Clearly, from his
behavior that day Mr. McAlister was in the middle of a tantrum befitting a
toddler more than a public figure with a good name to protect.
Several times in his statement Mr. McAlister cast
aspersions on Lt. Glossup. Lt. Glossup
looked at the video tape that night and based his actions on what the tape
revealed. The tape was taken in evidence and placed in a locked box. The next
day or day after, I was called to the police station and told by officer
Robinson, during approximately two hours of intense interrogation, that he saw “nothing on the tape where McAlister moved any signs”.
Officer Robinson informed me that the tape had been
sent to Martin Methodist College and transferred to a video disc. I have yet to
have the original tape returned to me, only a copy of the new disc. When this new disc was played it showed Mr.
McAlister getting out of his truck walking to the signs, then approximately for
three minutes there was nothing but blue sky.
I expressed concerns that the disc was different
from the video tape, but basically that was that. Without the tape there was
only this new disc.
Immediately after leaving the police department, I
called The District Attorney, Mr. Bottoms, and the TBI was called in to
investigate. The TBI determined that they “could not make a conclusive
determination about the disc being altered”.
Mr. McAlister claims that officer Glossup admitted
that I had pressured him into making a decision without doing an investigation.
Nowhere have I seen anything where Lt. Glossup made such an admission, in fact
under oath he explicitly stated that I did not intimidate or pressure him. In
fact Lt. Glossup acted very professionally and has no reason to be criticized
other than for not showing preferential treatment to an obnoxious, arrogantly demanding
baby. Lt. Glossup, at his own insistence,
did write a reprimand of himself. Mr. McAlister criticized this action as being
insufficient, which, when compared to Mr. McAlister’s own reprimands as a
Highway Patrol Officer it was rather mild.
Mr. McAlister filed civil suits totaling
thirty-three million dollars, eleven million each against the city, Lt. Glossup,
and me. His stated justification was to preserve his “good name” and because he
had suffered “severe mental injury”. Under oath Mr. McAlister was forced to
admit that all his psychological problems were long standing and preexisting to
the events of 20 July 2010, except for a wreck he had, under oath he admitted
that wreck occurred while driving under the influence of three powerful prescription
medications. That wreck also revealed the special treatment Mr. McAlister was
accustomed to as he left the scene of the accident, had no charges against him,
no drug test, or any adverse record.
Mr. McAlister claims that he has been “quiet for two
years but now is the time to tell the truth”. I am perplexed how someone could
have been quiet for two years when they have spread untruths about this
situation around town and on the Blog.
Mr. McAlister accused me of never saying anything
good about this county or its citizens. The truth is I have repeatedly told
people I have lived all over the world and Giles County is the only place I’ve
ever actually chosen as my home. There
are some great, wonderful people who live here, people who seek to create an
environment of friendship and welcome to everyone. There are also some like Mr.
McAlister who resent “so called outsiders”, and feel because they have been
here longer they are owed special treatment at the expense of others and
generally present a closed, suspicious mind to those they did not grow up with.
I have not moved from here in spite of those like Mr. McAlister because there
are hundreds of good, wonderful people who overshadow the fallacious snobbery
of stunted minds.
Another truth Mr. McAlister might consider becoming
involved with is that of removing the beam from his own eye before complaining
about a cinder in the eye of another. A
person who publically curses with the vile, vicious, mean-spiritedness he has
displayed is hardly in a position to criticize others.
A liar is as far from a good name as light is from
darkness and an honest man does not destroy that which is not theirs.
After the testimony under oath from Mr. McAlister
about his abuse of prescription medications, expectation of preferential
treatment, the personal vendetta toward Lt. Glossup and me his attorney advised
him to settle the thirty-three million dollar suit for $3750.00 or $1250.00
from each defendant, hardly enough to pay his own attorney. I did not want to
settle but it was a choice between $1250.00 or an additional $20,000.00 in
attorney and court fees. If faced with the same choice which would you take?
Again I thank you for this opportunity for rebuttal, Allen Barrett.
109 Comments:
Barrett,
Have you had that Mustang appraised yet?
Are you now trying to completely destroy Clay McAlister? I'm not accusing you...just asking.
There was nothing in his post that isn't already well known.
The problem with this fiction is that you blogged when it happened that you kept a copy of the tape because you didn't trust the police department. Interestingly you deleted that post (but printers are wonderful things).
Were you lying then or lying now?
To 7:49 perhaps its simply a matter of faulty memory on your part. At no time until I was under oath did I declare that I had or did not have a copy of the tape.
I also have not deleted any post concerning this situation and have deleted none that did not violate the rules that govern posting. You sir or madam are simply wrong.
To 6:43 The Mustang is appraised and in its corral. Thanks for asking.
To 7:12 I have no interest in destroying or harming Mr. McAlister and had no intention of making any more public statements about the matter until I read the comments he put in the newspaper two weeks ago. I could not allow such distortions and outright lies to go unchallenged. To me the matter is now closed and will remain so unless Mr. Mc Alister chooses to create more fantasy and try to pass it off as factual.
Barrett
You just keep on making enemies. Can you not see that?
If you keep this up, I'm afraid you might find yourself a defendant in AT LEAST one more lawsuit. Word on the street is that you are about to be sued, and, before you ask, I do NOT recall where I heard it. Do you have any ideas on that?
No sir, you are misrepresenting fact once again. You took the entire blog down when it got hot too hot for you. When you put it back up with your new "rules" of posting, it did not have any of your postings about the tape and your statement that you reserved a copy for safe keeping. I have the printout of the blog before you deleted it.
8:58
Good for you!
8:58 If what you claim is true, how about scanning under this topic what you say was removed. I cant believe it until I see it as I have to agree with WAB, he never posted one way or the other that he held a copy of the original tape. As I recall, CG was only speculating.
9:24
You recalled wrong.
9:37 And maybe you recall wrong which is why I asked you to prove what you recall.
9:39
You REALLY need something to do with your time.
come on big mouth scan what you got and show everyone what a liar either you are Barrett is. More gossip about people being sued why the hell don't you talk for yourself better yet why don't you just go to Barrett and tell him direct all the stupid gossip you spreading.
9:47
You REALLY need something to do with your time. By the way, I did not post 8:56 or 8:58. What about that?
Now we have two new threads for people without anything to do to act like children on. Yea!
I don't have a dog in this fight, but I presume someone would urge that the scan is a fake. It seems easy enough and much more reliable to have Mr. Barrett just restore the thread with no deletions from July and August 2010. Microsoft keeps everything on blogspot. Then no one can claim that the scan is a fake.
There were no deletions other than those in violation of the expressed requirements.
I believe everyone has a list of archives that run down the left side of your screen which makes it very easy to check the July and August 2012 or any other time period.
The comment section was suspended for a period because of the immense amount of vulgarities being posted and I simply could not keep up with them.
No one has been more severely criticized by anonymous cowards on this blog than I have. A quick look back would reveal those vicious comments were not deleted so why would I delete others? I also stand by every post I have made or have acknowledged corrections, with the things I have stated and identified with why would I try to remove less volatile statements?
If people must make up things to distract from the topic looks like they would at least pick things that could not be so easily proven false.
How much can you get for that Mustang?
Why are people so obsessed with Mr Barrett's car? Why aren't they as interested in what's going on with the county finances, after all they will have to pay for those problems.
I would submit that the poster who claims to have a printout of Mr.Barrett's statement is a dirty, rotten, low-down cowardly liar.
Prove me wrong. I'm sure someone will be happy to instruct you as to the process necessary to scan and post the alledged document.
Barring that, my above accessment of the character of the poster stands.
As for the "word on the street" concerning another law suit, I find that unbelieveable, to put in mildly. We are always hearing gossip collected by someone from a source on the street. Bullcrap.
Ray Lanier
I met Mr. Barrett today and I must say he was nothing like I had pictured him based on things I read on here.
I have to go to my friend's house to use the internet, it's kind of like when I was younger and we went to a friends house to watch TV.
I am having a very hard time right now and went to the church to see if they could help me with some food.
Mr. Barrett is the one I talked with. Instead of feeling embarrassed about the situation he made me feel comfortable and listened to me like I was the most important person in town. He was very charming and thoughtful and made me feel like I was really somebody instead of just someone down on their luck. thank you Mr Barrett, God bless you and your family.
Yes, he can be quite charming as long as you don't oppose him on something. Lots of people have that ability. Just saying.
well 3:05 why don't you just do what's right and stop opposing him.
I don't think anyone has to scan anything. I just saw this was posted from the side archives (although I am sure it will soon disappear as well). Looks to me like WAB did say what the accuser said he did.
"wab said...
To those who have been worried about me not posting and dreaming up reasons to justify your own small mindedness and support for wrongdoing. I have simply been out of town as many of you know due to my previous postings. I have and will continue to post only under my own name and any post you have questions about please call me for discussion I will answer any and all questions.
So the question of the tape is on the mind of folks. Have you ever heard the old saying, give a crook enough rope and he'll hang himself.
I will not go into details at this moment but I can assure you the rope is much longer and the noose is being tied. The police have had a cope of the tape almost since the incident. I will not say how many copies I made before giving it to the police but any alterations or destruction or lose will be easily identified to other agencies. Mr. Mc Alister was caught red handed with small bait, others may be caught with larger bait when the time is right. Allen Barrett
Monday, July 26, 2010 10:16:00 AM"
Hilarious
6:56
And pathetic.
6:56 & 7:07 You are both Hilarious and pathetic.
This all sounds like children. You don't like it when Barrett says things about the elected ones, but you act just like him.
Why can't everyone grow up and act like Christians.
Because I am not a christian and I think it is funny when Barrett gets caught in a lie.
"So the question of the tape is on the mind of folks. Have you ever heard the old saying, give a crook enough rope and he'll hang himself.
I will not go into details at this moment but I can assure you the rope is much longer and the noose is being tied. The police have had a cope of the tape almost since the incident. I will not say how many copies I made before giving it to the police but any alterations or destruction or lose will be easily identified to other agencies. Mr. Mc Alister was caught red handed with small bait, others may be caught with larger bait when the time is right. Allen Barrett"
Those words were written by me and posted on this blog 26 July 2010
I fail to see any inconsistency in this statement and others I have made about the matter. As I have stated I was deliberately ambivalent in my statements about the tape. I believed that the TBI would be able to prove the tape was altered when it was transferred to a disc and that proof would be sufficient to reveal the truth and expose those who had altered it.
The tape clearly showed the actions of Mr. McAlister throwing my signs down the hillside but the disc did not. The TBI was not able to “conclusively state that the disc was altered but neither were they willing to state that it had not been altered” therefore there is no conclusive evidence that the incident happened other than the words of two conflicting testimonies and one that was later changed.
To be perfectly clear about this I never emphatically said I neither had nor denied that I had a copy of the tape until I did so under oath. Nowhere is there evidence to the contrary, I repeat to the cowardly lion of the 4:27 post I have not deleted any post other than those that contained vulgarities and the only reason I discontinued the comments during the time was the utter viciousness of the lies being told. Not allowing comments is a very long way from deleting comments. So make all the false accusations you want but until you provide proof you are just a small minded person of no significance except to your fellow gossips and brain dead liars.
Barrett
Can't you see that you're making a jackass out of yourself? In my opinion, you always seem to have a come-back or excuse when you get caught. It really is hilarious and yet pathetic that some people believe in you.
2:04
I honestly believe you are none other than Allen Barrett posting anonymously to toot your own horn. I'm thinking you are trying to clean up your image by working at the church. That thought never occurred to me until it was mentioned by someone else. Makes sense, and I couldn't blame you for seeing a need to improve. I just hope you don't hurt that program, because the church provides a great and needed service to our community. I for one will go hungry before I ask you for a crumb.
How could Mr Barrett be making a jackass out of himself when in your opinion that has been stated over and over ad nauseam he already is a jackass?
As for trying to change his image ain't that what you keep saying, get a job or pick up a hammer, better the community.
You talk big about going hungry before you'd ask him for a crumb. you must have never been hungry before or watched your kids be hungry are you wouldn't say such a stupid thing. There's a old saying about saying never, maybe you'll end up God forbide, in a nursing home unable to feed yourself then you'll remember how arrogant you were.
7:45
Would you agree with me that the post at 2:04 sounds like Barrett? And I believe that an improvement in his image would be a betterment for our community. God himself said that the world will know we are His if we love one another. I'd say that's pretty sound advice, wouldn't you?
I would go elsewhere for food if my family and I were hungry. Ok? Speaking of arrogance, I try to stay away from it.
I have to respectfully disagree, CG. The post does not sound like Mr.B at all to me.
I also think what he's doing at the church is a wonderful thing. In these uncertain times, there are many who are but a paycheck away from being in serious trouble.
Just my thoughts, y'all take them as you will.
Ray Lanier
Why was the original type not given to the TBI? Why has it not been given back to Barrett?
It could be checked to see if it had been tampered with.
My thoughts is Barrett gave it to police before he went home to make copies. Never dreaming they would do any thing to it, if they did. Well they did copy it to a disk.
7:53 No I would not agree that 2:04 sounded like Mr. Barrett. What it sounded like to everyone but those filled with self-righteousness and hate for the man, was a woman who thinks differently from you and saw Mr. Barrett in a totally different way. You can't handle any disagreement with your self-righteousness so you have to make it sound like Mr. Barrett just to justify your continued hatred for him. If you ever get any objectivity in your life you will see that it's very different from that little fantasy world you've created in your mind.
Giles County has major problems and always has, there are actually people who expect and get special treatment just look at whose kids get expelled from school for the same things and worse. There are real people who are hurting in this county and actually appreciate the helping hand others offer.
As for the matter of loving one another, you don't even seem to know what the word means certainly not the action of love.
When your family is really hungry you'll go wherever and do whatever is necessary it's your arrogance of not being in that situation that causes you to talk so big, but you know things have a way of bringing down the proud. So until you know what you're talking about you should stick a sock in your pie hole.
The tape was the evidence so why was it not logged as evidence and treated as such? Giving it to an outside source to make a copy? Why when the disc was retrieved was the original not returned? And why did the police not ensure its safe return? Seems like keeping up with the original tape would be vital. Way more important than a DVD copy.
My concern is that the evidence ever left the police's possession which opens up the argument that the original could be tampered with. I guess we will never know. Who would benefit the most if the question of authenticity ever arose in court?
The situation begs the question whether or not the preferential treatment Clay received concerning the wreck was extended to other matters. Just a question, not an accusation.
Ray Lanier
11:35 It gives the police department a bad name to not keep up with the tape and not to return it.
That is just my opinion of it, looks bad on Giles County. I don't think Mr. McAlister lied. I just think the police department didn't do their job right. If they had given the original tape to the TBI and it showed what the disc did then a lot of people would think different about Mr. McAlister.
10:22
Sorry, but no sock for this pie hole. It seems to me that you don't quite understand the concept of free speech. In short, I have every right to my opinions and beliefs. It is my strong suspicion (not an accusation) that Barrett did in fact make that post.
As for going elsewhere for food if I or my family was hungry, that is EXACTLY what I would do. There are plenty of charitable agencies around, so why would I have to deal with that man? I would go hungry first, and that is also my right.
I would probably go get a job at the first plave that would hire me before getting to the poing of letting my family go hungry.
What is with the "go get it from someone else" rather than being personally responsible mentality?
I have a question for the person that wouldn't go to WAB for help if his/her family was hungry.
Let's say you are driving down a long road with no buildings any where near, It's 10 degrees and you see a car stuck in a ditch, it's also out of gas so no way to keep warm. There is a man and woman inside it. I'm thinking you would stop and offer help. You are the only one in your car so there is plenty of room for them to ride with you.
You stop and find out it's Mr. and Mrs Barrett. Will you be a Christian and let them ride with you or what?
5:40
That would be a life-or-death situation, and, given how dangerous it is to stop and help unknowns in a car, I would most likely immediately call 911. Would you stop, not knowing the circumstances? Be truthful.
Having said all that, it's highly unlikely that I would be out riding around in ten degree weather and in a remote area. It would be even more improbable that you would find Mr. and Mrs. Barrett out in conditions such as that.
I am a Christian, but that doesn't mean that I would take chances on getting robbed or killed by stopping to help people in a supposedly disabled car. By the same token, I would not pick up hitch-hikers. Would you?
5:40
And NO, I would not go to Barrett for a crumb. I'm resourceful enough to find the help I need without having to deal with him. That's my right. I don't want anything to do with him.
Ya'll are getting too worked up over this entertainment site. Barrett lies. He is caught. He changes his story. 90% don't believe him. 10% do. It was that way 2 years ago. It will be that way 2 years from now. If he runs for election to anything, he will be defeated. If he supports another candidate for County Executive, that candidate again will be tainted unfortunately and probably lose again too. If he supports a charter, it will be defeated. If he opposes it, it will pass.
Just enjoy the entertainment and don't take anything posted on here too seriously.
Just saying.
Interesting figures,12:07. I would be interested in the formula you used to arrive at such percentages.
Oh wait, it's not a formula; I believe the term is arbitrary. Anyone can pluck a couple of numbers out of thin air and write them down. Why don't you take a poll. I'm sure the numbers would be much different should you do so.
I have my own set of numbers. I would say that 90% of your posts are ridiculous while the other 10% are just outright lies. That's got to be as accurate as the math you used, don't you think?
Ray Lanier
Well you must your math skills must be as sorry as your logic and reasoning skills Ray. Barrett got beat by double digits when running for commissioner. Simple math. He was a proponent of Scott Stewart. Another loss and simple math. He was a voice for the charter and it was defeated. Simple math. I would say that 12:07 was very accurate and honest with their calculations.
Have you been hiding under a rock for the last several years? Your posts indicate that you have been. All of them.
I would say that 90% if your posts are childish and stupid. It is simple math. Wouldn't you think?
8:29 and 8:40 which I think is both cg.
Let's turn it around, You have car trouble and make it 32 degrees, you have your small grandchild with you and Barrett comes along, stops and offers you a ride. Do you care enough about your that grandchild to except the ride with Barrett?
Strange things can happen, a tornado anything could come along and you need help. Would you let your dislike for Barrett to keep you from taking his help?
8:29 A lot of things could make me get out in very cold weather, a sick child, spouse or parent needed a doctor. If I saw a car on the side of the road, I would slow down as I went by, then if I knew them I would stop. More than likely I would of known who's car before getting to it.
I just wanted to prove you aren't a Christian when it comes to Barrett. I should of spelled everything out slowly for you. You would know Barrett's car before you stopped.
1:39 dumbass, no, I wouldn't. You can say many, some, a lot or any number of adjectives. You cannot, however, assign an arbitrary ratio to something, such as 9:1 without doing a survey.
I'm quite sure you missed it, as you do most things, but that was my point.
BTW, I would say my math skills are marginally better than your English skills. Dumbass.
Ray Lanier
Aww...at home on a Friday night? Now that's just sad.
5:16/5:30
You can pop off all day long about the disabled car incident, but all you want to do is stir up trouble. If my child or grandchild were in imminent danger and I had to accept a ride from someone like Barrett, I would certinly accept it. Now are you happy with that? But barring unusual situations, I don't want or need anything he has to offer. Can you accept that?
Thank God, YOU are not the righteous judge. You never have been able to tolerate my being a Christian, and that is your problem and not mine.
Hell, CG, I would take a ride from a seriel killer if it was cold enough. Man, when my nose starts running and I can't feel my toes, all bets are off.
Ray Lanier
Ray
LOL. Too funny.
Peace
Ray,
I agree with you. I would also have pity on the person in the cold and stop. This day I could get killed in doing that, if so I believe I would of gone to a better place.
I find it hard to pass by someone who appears to be having car trouble, especially if it's a woman. I know that's the oldest trick in the book, but I do it with the hope that if my wife or child is ever in need of assistance, someone will help them.
In this day and time, it's probably not the smartest thing to do, but I do it anyway.
If I break down, however, I just start walking. If you've seen me, you probably understand why folks aren't overly enthused about picking me up. I'm even had people lean over and lock their passenger door as they pass by me. Like what am I gonna do, reach out and drag the vehicle to a halt. Aww heck, I guess I can use the exercise anyway. Good day, y'all.
Ray Lanier
Sorry about being so far off topic, I sometimes get carried away.
Ray,
You're too hilarious. I'm honestly becoming one of your biggest fans.
Peace.
Thanks 4:54. I will have to say that as far as this blog is concerned, you are probably in the minority in that opinion.
Ray Lanier
Ray, More people agree with and are a fan than you think. We just don't post back 24/7.
I understand, 8:00. Thanks.
Ray Lanier
9:12 and 4:54, signs Peace like cg. I hope it is him and he's seeing the fun in some things.
Life's to short to let things upset you.
Happy Labor Day everyone. Don't labor to hard.
10:06 Perhaps he sees the idiocy in your constant cheap shots at him. That is pretty laughable when you think about it.
Have you noticed how the one who said some insulting things to Ray is now buttering up to him, also asking him to strongly reconsider his ability to write a program for WAB that would reveal who the posters are? I hope Ray goes ahead with his project. There are many of us who have been victims of CG's vile tongue.
12:06
Well here you are again trying to get something stirred up. Let me set you straight on a few things. First on all, I have never said anything about anyone on this blog that could be considered slander. I stand by those things I have said and always make certain that what I have to say is purely opinion or a belief. I have not accused anyone of the things I have routinely seen all over this blog. Secondly, I did ask Ray to reconsider allowing people at random to be exposed when the blog has always had a provision for anonymity. That was not an attempt to "butter up" Ray or anyone else for that matter. Ray is an intelligent guy who thinks for himself. And while I don't agree with him on everything, I respect him and have always spoken pretty favorably of him here. I believe the record bears that out. In fact, all this aside, I think Ray is an ok guy. Got it?
Everyone who has posted on this blog has, at one time or another, been a victim of someone's tongue. I don't see it as CG buttering up to me. I see him as a person like myself who sometimes gets a little passionate about what he believes. We all need to be adults on here ( I'm including myself in that statement ) but sometimes that's harder than you would think.
I am going forward with my project to identify the vicious posters who attack another's family. Our families aren't posting, for the most part, and shouldn't have to suffer for our opinions. That's my two-cents worth, anyhow.
Ray Lanier
Thanks Ray. I seem to have mellowed sowewhat in my passions. I've discovered that I was wrong about some things and right about others. I guess we all have a right to be wrong sometimes.
Peace.
To 4:06
you are the most full of crap person I have ever heard of and a dam liar if there ever was one.
You said "First on all, I have never said anything about anyone on this blog that could be considered slander. I stand by those things I have said and always make certain that what I have to say is purely opinion or a belief."
You have slandered people over and over and attacked them and their families even claiming they ain't Christians. You sure stand by what you say as long as you don't have to be accountable by being anonymous. That's what makes you a coward being anonymous and saying some of the most disgusting things while claiming to be such a goody goody when you are really nothing but a hypocrite and self-righteous bastard to cowardly to reveal your name for fear any number of people would hunt you down and stomp your
dumbass.
4:59
The one thing you really can't stand about me is the fact that I am a Christian. And, were I not a gentleman, you would find that you had better bring your lunch if you want to come give me a whipping. There was a time when I would have said bring it on, but I'm no longer a part of that lifestyle. Are you? I don't fear you and your buddies, and I won't get down to your level of name-calling and making threats.
You say I have attacked people and their families. Give me some specific examples of that. I will admit to questioning troublemakers who claim to be Chriistians. Anybody should question the hypocrisy in that. I have a right to my opinions. But I have never said they were NOT Christians. That's a judgment reserved for the Lord.
Unless I miss my guess, aren't you also anonymous? Laughable.
5:18 You the one said they stand by what you said then try to turn it to opinions after you have stated things as fact. You have questioned peoples Christianity while lying about people upset that you are a Christian, no body has a problem with you being a Christian just that you don't know what being a Christian is when it involves your behavior you just always attacking others then lying about it you a hypocrit and a liar.
You make all kinds of claims that ain't nothing but gossip and lies then crawl back under your rock. you really worse than a hypocrat cause at least they will face a person you a coward to boot.,
7:28
How many times must you and I go over this? The ONLY reason I ever claimed to be a Christian is because of the lie Allen Barrett told on me that I willfully support and go along with wrongdoings. That's right; he did lie about that. The ONLY reason I refer to myself as a gentleman is because one of his followers (perhaps you) kept calling me a female. We have been over and over and over these points, and it amazes me that you either do not comprehend or just want to keep something stirred up. Which is it?
Of course I question the sincerity and honesty of those who claim to be Christians and all the while stirring up trouble, calling people nasty names, etc. Don't you? hat doesn the Bible say about rebuking hypocrisy?
Call me all the names you wish, but it doesn't change anything.
7:28
I asked you for specific examples. ome things I DID state as fact and others as opinions or even posed as questions.
8:06 hang tough on here. Don't let the liars get you down. I liked where one poster pointed out that Barrett lied about the copies of the tapes and used Barrett's own words to prove it! Gotta love it.
To the anonymous person, who fails to understand the difference between truth and feelings, fact and thought, who posted the ridiculous statement at 8:06
I never told a lie about you and you have been given numerous opportunities to prove anything I have said about you was untrue. To date you have proven nothing, you haven’t even offered any legitimate evidence contrary to anything I have claimed. The reason you said you were a Christian is because you tried to use that to justify your enabling of wrong doing. Calling oneself a name does not make that name characterize that person. Your behaviors have proven beyond any doubt what you are.
Since you proudly state, “Of course I question the sincerity and honesty of those who claim to be Christians and all the while stirring up trouble, calling people nasty names, etc.” it’s obvious that you have no respect for the Apostle Paul, any of the Disciples and Jesus Himself, because each of them stirred up trouble and called people unflattering but true names. Lester Maddox stirred up trouble just as Dr. King did; Stalin stirred up trouble just as Roosevelt did; Castro stirred up trouble just as JFK did it’s all in the perspective from where you stand. The Pharisees saw Jesus as a troublemaker because He threatened their power, Gov. Maddox was on a different side than Dr. King and both were seen as trouble makers by their opposition same as with the others I mentioned.
The Bible certainly does admonish us to rebuke sin or wrongdoing, so why would anyone embrace it while claiming to be opposed to it, simply because they have convinced themselves that they are in the right. Here is where you and I differ I base my positions on the evidence I discover and look at it objectively as I possibly can before making up my mind, you on the other hand seem to be satisfied to base your decisions of friendships, feelings and one-sided conversations.
Yes, you have called me nasty names; you have gossiped about me, lied about me even gone so far as to declare what my motivations are. You even claimed that I could not be a Christian much less a Minister of the Gospel. You have spoken derogatory of my family and spread rumors with no validity.
You deny the Christianity of others while boldly proclaiming it as your justification for not being able to support wrong doing. You sir are a cowardly, proven lying hypocrite who seems satisfied with playing the role of political fool and court jester.
To 9:36 Please show where I was proven to be a liar about the tapes or anything else. If you could show some factual information it would help prevent you being just another loudmouth coward posting as anonymous to keep your stupidity secret.
Barrett
Yes, you DID tell a lie about me, but it appears your pride and arrogance will never let you admit that. The very fact that I live a Christian life SHOULD be proof enough that I would never go along with things I believe to be wrong. In fact, since you first told that lie, I have made statements regarding my disdain for Mr. Jackson, Mr. Speer and others. I'm sure you just forgot about those comments. But mnevertheless, I would appreciate it if you would stop telling that lie. It's making you look pretty bad.
Where do you get the idea that I have no respect for the Apostle Paul and Christ and his disciples? Are you trying to justify troublemaking because of the great and wondrous things They did? Outrageous! If so, then you must be delusional. Are you comparing yourself to Dr, King and/or Christ? Just wondering.
It's obvious to me that you have no respect for anyone who sees things differently from you. Oh, and do you recall that the early Christians called out those who were berhaving as hypocrites? They called them hypocrites, generation of vipers, and other things. I'm sure you just forgot. To accuse me of denying the Christianity of others is simply a lie.
Uh, could you refresh my memory on any lies I have told about you? While you are at it, could you also list any nasty names? I will admit to saying you are hypocritical and that you are full of arrogance and pride. I admit that I have called you a troublemaker. Well, aren't you? You even call yourself the same thing.
You falsely accuse me of saying derogatory things about your family. That's simply not true. I have seen remarks on here about your family, but I assure you that I didn't make them. However, I have stated on this blog that I didn't see how they put up with you. That, along with thinking you to be a troublemaker and a hypocritical person filled with arrogance and pride are my opinions for which I have a right to hold. And I've told you before that I have a very low opinion of you.
I hope that I have ONCE AGAIN been able to clear up a few of your misunderstandings.
Would you question the sincerity of one who claims to be a Christian who is also cheating on his wife, stealing money from his boss, etc? I would. And, before someone accuses me to the contrary, I was just using those as examples. I am NOT accusing ANYONE here of doing those things.
When we sign anonymous we can claim to be a Christian or anything else, but that don't prove it. No one knows who we are, so there is no way to know if we are what we say we are.
9:22
True, but when one calls himself Christian, it is NOT up to others to call him a liar for that. Let's leave the judging to God.
It is when that person tries to use the title to justify their behavior.
1:44 Agree!
So why does cg think we should believe it when we don't know him to believe it.
I've never called him a liar for saying he is a Christian just said that don't prove anything.
I've seen where he was called a liar for saying he was going to quit posting and keeping on posting. To me that would be a lie. He changed his mind but he still told a lie.
8:35
Aren't you the one who keeps calling him a liar and the one who continues to take cheap shots at him?
9:48 No!! I'm just saying that when anyone post they are a Christian it doesn't prove they are because no on knows who they are to see if they really are a Christian.
I'm not asking him to sign his name, more than likely I wouldn't know who he/she is, unless he is Janet Vanzant.
I don't even know Mrs. Vanzant well enough to know if she goes to church or not and that don't concern me if she does are not.
8:23
That person only posted that he is a Christian who would never willfully go along with wrongdoings because of the lie that was told on him along with a demand that he show proof. Furthermore, it would be judging to presume that he is not a Christian, don't you think?"
Come on, 9:04, we all know that person is you. Don't act like someone is taking your side. You're sytle is too easy to idintify. Better luck later.
I'd say more people take the side of Christianity than they do of troublemakers and those who seek to cause strife and hatred. What about that?
There was never a taking sides on this blog against Christianity except in your own mind. the matter is and was claiming as an unknown person to be a christian and therefore using that label to justify a claim of never supporting wrongdoing. Since no one knew who the person was of course many were unwilling to simply take his word especially when they had already proven to support a number of wrongdoing.
A Christian is known by their behavior not an anonymous posting.
Barrett
You claim that MANY were unwilling to accept that claim? ould that also include you? Thank God YOU and those "many" are not the judge. By the way, who started that lie?
I almost cracked a rib laughing at your last sentence.
Mr. Barrett
You are certainly known for your behavior.
I would have to say that's a great thing, for the most part.
Ray Lanier
One thing about Barrett, whether you love or hate him, is his willingness to not just speak up about the wrongs he sees but his actions are far more consistent with what he says than cg and most of the chicken crap anonymous mouths on here.
howard
Perhaps I should call myself Bill or james? hat about John. ould that make me any less anonymous than you are?
Actually one of those names would seperate you from the rest of the anonymous. I don't care a bout who you are so much but would like to see you as something other than anonymous, Heck you could sign as cg.
Someone please list the licensed locksmiths in Giles county, or is there only the one? Thanks.
RAS
Why don't you look in the yellow pages for a listing of locksmiths?
Besides McLackluster, the closest one listed is in Columbia. John Elliott may or may not still be doing locksmith work. He's also a magistrate and that's usually what we talk about when I see him. It's been awhile, though.
He is still listed as a Pulaski locksmith on the www.
Ray Lanier
Thanks, Ray.
I'll try Columbia.
RAS
Just thinki about this. If you moved to Columbia, you'd be near a locksmith of your choice. Now there's an idea.
Really, 6:00? That's what you have to offer? My damn but that is just brilliant. It is, oh it is. I just don't know how we'd make it without you on this blog( I'm sure we would find a way, though.)
If there is anyone looking for an example of a "troublemaker", look no further than the above post. You really should be proud.
Ray Lanier
12:48 seems to be the troublemaker.
He's a troublemaker because he doesn't want to use McAlister as a locksmith? Or am I missing some other trouble 12:48 is making?
That's a serious question.
Ray Lanier
Ray
No, it's the sarcasm. At least that's my interpretation. I saw no need in it.
Peace.
6:06 Do you even know what peace means? You sure don't act like it.
Sounds like you want to start trouble.
Have you ever locked your keys in your car and had to call someone to come get you? Then need a locksmith?
Could happen, but you didn't tell them to do it did you?
cg is at it again telling people to move. Too dumb to know people in little Giles County could need a locksmith.
6:28No, it was the sarcastic remark about Columbia that started this latest round. That was one of you guys, not me.
You just can't seem to be happy unless some sort of strife is going on.
Someone ask for a locksmith beside Mr. McAlister and someone told him there was one in Columbia.
Was that a sarcastic remark?
I thought the sarcastic remark was in telling them to move to Columbia.
Seems to me cg isn't happy unless he/she has some sort of strife.
I also didn't read anything sarcastic into the Columbia locksmith comment. Our choices are rather limited around here.
Ray Lanier
That's right Ray. Just because our choices of things in Giles County are limited, it doesn't mean we want to move away or have to move away.
I believe the one some call the enabler is finally trying to cool it.
Other than Columbia you can contact:
Frank Key in Ardmore, AL
256-420-5308
Ricky's Locksmith, Lawrenceburg
931-766-2237
8:35 Thanks!
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