Now That I Have Responded To Mr. Rackley Perhaps He Will Respond To Me?
I have a few questions I hope you will be kind enough to respond to Mr. Rackley, since you made the commitment to answer any questions about the EDC.
1. Why did the Mr. Speer take two hundred dollars from the EDC funds supplied by taxpayers and give as donations to the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts? This is not a question of their value only about the appropriateness of funneling taxpayer money to charitable organizations. Check numbers 4573 & 4583.
2. Is it not a conflict of interest to engage in a financial transaction, where you personally benefit, with the very committee you are chairman of. Are you the Rackley Technologies Inc. that check number 4360 was made out to for $180.00?
3. Is it not a conflict of interest for the committee to be buying insurance from the wife of the Director?
4.Why was a Payroll System by Intuit purchased for $574.00 with the Chase Credit Card in September when there are only two employees.?
5. Why is the August 2011 Board Meeting, where the lunch cost $303.60, listed separate from the other Board Meetings meals?
6. Why did Mr. Speer make a $1,000.00 taxpayer donation to the Songwriters event, then publicly take credit for the donation while personally receiving special seating and acknowledgements?
I'll offer my appreciation for your attention and response in advance, thank you.
1. Why did the Mr. Speer take two hundred dollars from the EDC funds supplied by taxpayers and give as donations to the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts? This is not a question of their value only about the appropriateness of funneling taxpayer money to charitable organizations. Check numbers 4573 & 4583.
2. Is it not a conflict of interest to engage in a financial transaction, where you personally benefit, with the very committee you are chairman of. Are you the Rackley Technologies Inc. that check number 4360 was made out to for $180.00?
3. Is it not a conflict of interest for the committee to be buying insurance from the wife of the Director?
4.Why was a Payroll System by Intuit purchased for $574.00 with the Chase Credit Card in September when there are only two employees.?
5. Why is the August 2011 Board Meeting, where the lunch cost $303.60, listed separate from the other Board Meetings meals?
6. Why did Mr. Speer make a $1,000.00 taxpayer donation to the Songwriters event, then publicly take credit for the donation while personally receiving special seating and acknowledgements?
I'll offer my appreciation for your attention and response in advance, thank you.
posted by Allen Barrett | 2:32 PM
152 Comments:
Bet we the taxpayers will not get any answers to that.
David....at least he didn't directly accuse you of voter fraud. He's much too clever for that.
My question about that is not for Mr R but the elect comiss...if in fact it was opened....
Why did he or anyone open the machine? (That didn't fit the criteria like non-res, etc)
Can we have that answer? Someone may already covered that?
I am curious to that as well 9:36. In addition it concerns me that any one that sits on a board, like the EDC, that has the potential of being done away with or funding cut dependent upon who is seated on the county commission, or is receiving a benefit from the tax payers, even if it is just a meal, that they would have access to our voting booths.
10:00 Aren't all the election commissioners appointed by elected officials? Oh my! Everything in the world is corrupt! The sky is falling, the sky is falling!
I guess the girls in the election commission had better put the candy on the counter away! Could be a bribe!!!
Figures..... Avoid an honest question with sarcasm. Expect nothin less I guess.
Anyone else have an answer?
Chicken Little,
Does the law provide for all or any election commissioners to open or service the voting booths?
1:53
You are right. Someone might accuse them of voter fraud, don't you think?
If procedure was not followed and a person was on the ballot that did not meet all the requirements then a fraud was perpetuated on the citizens of Giles County. Any one that argues differently is a fool or corrupt.
Why can't a discussion go on with out the jealous crazies?
Some people like to know what is going on.
This is nothing against Rackley, it's the nuts posting. I think David is a good man.
Is 6:22 none other than Barrett again?
nope and your stupid for thinking such 9:21.
Are other people wondering why cg and Rackley haven't had anything to say about the documents Barrett has posted about the EDC and the things Rackley has said?
10:32
Why are you so bitter? Could it be that Mr. Rackley exposed Barrett as a liar? Why do you think Barrett went to so much trouble (epistle after epistle) in an attempt to (my opinion) make himself look like the harbinger of truth, justice, and The American Way? Hilarious.
Are you psycho 6:39? Where did Rackley do that? Rackley has had plenty of time to show proof of his statements but where is it? Does it even exist? Oh yes we are just to take his word based on ? So are you reading the same blog as every one else? Go seek help because you are mentally ill. Barrett documents what he states and others like yourself who post no proof to support their statements still want people to believe them? Keep up the good work supporting those who lie to us and expect us to believe them based on their word, even when their words have been exposed to be false when compared to actual examinable items. What is next? Do you expect us to believe the sky is green and the ground is blue because you say so? Guess what? Proof that we can see and examine helps us to see through your lying enabling ass contrary to any thing you may write.
David has a bit more class than to argue with a troublemaker.
So lets just take the "people" out of the discussion and stick to the facts---the ones that are fact because they can be shown--shouldn't matter who is involved.
Can we do that?....
9:04
I don't think posting proof of what you claim is arguing, and I do not think any sane person would either. An enabler on the other hand? In your post I believe you meant he has no desire to show proof of what he claims in a public forum. Is it classy to post some one is a liar and show no proof of what you state when there is mounds of evidence to the contrary? You are too funny.
I have posted PLENTY of proof that Allen Barrett told that lie. You seem to be the one enabling him.
Yeah ---- proof in YOUR anonymous eyes.
1:13 Only the lie you say he told on you that you are an enabler.
Why do you cry about that when some one hits the nail on the head about what you post. I thought they were talking about Mr. Rackley.
9:38 Good post but cg can't post to it, because he can't say anything against Barrett there.
You folks act like a bunch of second graders.
Come on cg you are ready told on yourself that you are indeed an enabler when you wrote that you knew what was wrong before Barrett told but you wouldn't do nothing about it.
yopu
No...what I SAID is that I realize and understand that there are things wrong in our county government just as there are things wrong in any county government. Know why that is? It's simply because most people, with the exclusion of you guys, are fallible human beings who make mistakes.
If anyone is an enabler, it is you, because you are the one who continues to enable the lie Allen Barrett told that I willfully go along with wrong. I would almost bet that he would rather you stop making an issue of this, because I will continue to point out the lie he told each and every time you do...the Lord willing of course.
David would rather hang out at the river with a bunch of really young girls.
Why are you trying to hurt David? If you know so much about his personal life, why don't you be brave and sign your name to a post such as the one you just made. If you have put all you own in somebody else's name, why would it matter?
7:34 Can you prove that?
Back track and justification of ones own wrongs = the enabler. Psycho of Giles County. Oops I named called, just was not sarcastic when I did it.
7:36 (7:44)
I don't have to prove anything to you about that. I SAID IF you have put all you own in somebody else's name, what would it matter. I didn't say you or anybody else we know has done that.
There you go again enabling the lie Allen Barrett told. Why don't you give it a rest? He lied about that, and you are enabling him.
7:24. Sounds like you are really jealous of David!
Why does anyone bring up someone's personal life in these discussion? Just because someone works for the county or city or on some committee does not give anyone the right to bring personal things into play unless they are spending tax dollars to do something personal. Leave the families alone no matter which side you are talking about. Do not hurt innocent people.
6:36 Good point, but why do there have to be "sides" here? This is just proof of the hatred and jealousy being spawned and nurtured by this filthy blog.
8:07
You are a psycho and the root cause for any hatred spread on this blog. How many times have you said you are going to quit posting? More than you can count. But I bet almost every post on here bashing Barrett or any one who questions any of the corrupt ones in the circle you run are posted by you. You are the enabler and a hatemonger. You're pathetic.
People take sides because there is a wrong side and a right side and the evidence shows that the enabler is clearly on the wrong side.
I agree with the one who said leave the families out and focus on the problem, but of course that isn't the way Barrett is treated is it.
Actually, there are three sides to every story. What is left to be answered is will one take the time to determine the facts?
9:08 (9:25)
Look, the root of the troublemaking and hatred is, in my opinion, an angry little man with an axe to grind with people he feels has wronged him in some way.
If there's an enabler on the wrong side of things, it is you. After all, you are the one who keeps promoting a lie.
You keep promoting the wrongdoers 10:29. Why don't you address the issues that Barrett put on here with the documents to support his side of the story. Anybody can say anything at anytime but what is written down can only be seen with a very narrow understanding. Now I could care less what Barrett or your personal feelings are or your opinions the simple fact is based on the documents something really stinks and it's coming out of the EDC.
3:58
I believe Mr. Rackley has sufficiently addressed Barrett's charges, so your statement that I support wrongdoers is a lie. It always was a lie.
What do you suggest we do to affect better government? Should we storm the courthouse and lynch those a small band of troublemakers dislike? Should we do that on the town square for all to see? Would that make them happy? NO! Only when they are put "in charge" of things will they be satisfied. Thank God, the voters of Giles County see this as well.
For Barrett
Do you derive some twisted satisfaction out of trying to malign and destroy people in the community? Is it not apparent that those who fall victim to this are those you feel may have wronged you in some way?
One of your supporters (might have been you posting anonymously) referred to the Biblical concept of turning the other cheek. Well, I would say this to you. If you feel these people have wronged you in some way or even if they did, why can't you as a "man of God" turn your other cheek? Just asking. Would that not be better than all the strife?
Got that wrong cg. I posted that about turning the other cheek for YOU and Barrett. I think you are as bad as he is!!!
8:13
Wrong. I don't feel that someone has wronged me...other than you, and I know I should just ignore your attacks. But, as I said, there's a larger principle here. I won't let you get away with it.
To 6:45
In spite of the angry accusatory attitude and nature of your comments I will respond to those comments even though I believe, based on past experiences with you, that any response other than what you want to hear is a wasted effort.
The premise of your questions are just plain wrong as I have not sought to "malign or destroy" anyone. The only thing I have done is report facts and provide documentation and comment on those facts. Have those facts been embarrassing to some, certainly and they were intended to embarrass in some cases where the individual refused to make any changes in their wrong behaviors.
I do not apologize for exposing the wrong, unethical or illegal behavior of public officials who use their position for personal benefit or to belittle, abuse and treat citizens unequally. My actions are not, nor have they been, a matter of personalities but a matter of behavior.
Now, let me repeat once again for your benefit, when I post it is under my name. Ask yourself, with the amount of criticism and personal attacks I have been subjected to for posting under my name what would be the benefit of posting under anonymously or under some other name? There is hardly anything left that I have not been called or accused of so what benefit would I derive from posting anonymously?
Let's look at this concept of "turning the other cheek" that you seem to imply would make one unqualified to be a Christian or a Pastor. It's this misconception of the "turn the other cheek" doctrine that will eventually allow muslims to control this nation and the world. Why didn't we just turn the other cheek when Hitler was running through Europe and Africa, when the Emperor's military was running over Asia? Why didn't the people in Birmingham just turn the other cheek when Bull Connor turned the dogs loose on them? Why didn't our founders just turn the other cheek when King George said you are my property? Why have you stated that you would come to your wife's defense if needed? Why didn't Jesus just turn the other cheek instead of overturning the tables of the money-changers? Too often the idea of turning the other cheek is used by cowards to justify doing nothing to right a wrong.
A personal attack may warrant turning the other cheek but one must hold ideals and goals that are worth fighting for.
I am a Christian but not a Quaker, growing up mostly in the Murfreesboro Housing Projects and twenty years of military training have resulted in punch me in the nose and I'll crush your Trachea, it's not even a voluntary thing. As a Christian I will do everything I can to treat others better than they treat me but as a man I will not allow others to walk on me.
You ask, wouldn't it be better to just ignore the wrongs in-order to have less strife? My response is, strife would be greatly decreased simply by people meeting their responsibilities and not acting in such abusive ways.
My response to Mr. Barrett can be seen at:
http://www.gilesfreespeechblog.com
What is David's new website supposed to have proven? Why didn't he post documentation to support his claims that Barrett was wrong? Does any one who has read David's statements want him involved with the removal of cards from the voting booths? I certainly don't. Any one who has watched a documentary on the rigging of the voting booths knows the only thing you need access are the cards.
Did I say this has happened? No, but but my idea of checks and balances is not putting trust blindly in some one who gets their panties in a wad because they believe they should be above any suspicion of wrongdoing based on their own claims.
Not to mention there's probably a nice way to track and see who is visiting the posted reply website---
8:34 Who said you had been wrong? I said you was wrong about Barrett posting the post about turning the other cheek. Sometimes I wonder about you.
11:02 I visited it to see what was going on. Thanks David for posting it. I understand the EDC better and could understand what you posted.
Only thing I didn't agree with is it isn't anybody's business who has their assets in another person's name.
I can understand why you asked it though even if I don't agree with your asking. It's nobody's business what you do with your money or time.
Thanks for the help you have given Giles County.
10:22, why do you keep trying? You only make yourself look like a moron with posts like that.
I never thought Rackley had to do anything to prove himself. He is a good guy and has done far more for this community than Barrett could ever dream of doing.
I just hope those of you with idiot blinders on will step back and see what kind of man you are supporting. Barrett is a troublemaker and a true promoter of strife and turmoil. He is the king of wrongdoing.
Barrett...
Well why is it that the ones you continually try to "expose" are the ones for who (my opinion0 you hold the most resentment and jealousy? Can you not see how obvious that is to anyone with a brain? One would have to be delusional to ignore it.
Yes, I said I would quickly come to my wife's defense without having to ask her why should she ask that of me. I would NEVER allow someone to walk up and start smarting off to her, and that would also include you sir. And NO, I was not accusing Bob Hughes of smarting off to Mrs. Harwell, so don't try to go there.
Somebody must be loosing it. Seek help.
looks like Rackley hit it out of the park.
4:21
Then our opinions differ. Every one who takes a position as an elected official, appointed official, etc. is subject to scrutiny and if they make public statements they had better be able to back them up. I do not know David and can only judge him based on his actions. Right now my opinion is not very high and he does need to provide proof of everything he stated Barrett lied about. So far all I have seen is dribble and no proof, and an immature tirade about Barrett's possessions. He may be honest but at present I do not know, and if you vouch for him then my doubts about him are greater.
He makes all these statements about the country club and how it needs to be supported but shuts down when questioned if family members are on the board of that club. They are. Why not be open when you adamantly defend something as precious as the nine hole hillcrest with baby pool and school cafeteria dining area in the club house.? Is that why he defends Hillcrest and wants tax dollars to fund membership fees? This is just one item that bothers me and has me questioning motives.
I mean the action of taking the time to set up a copy of this site is ridiculously immature. What is it supposed to prove? that he can act like an infant and try to be spiteful? If he actually cared about showing proof and informing the public he would have provided the full proof for every item he stated Barrett lied about. But it says something about him that he chose such childish actions instead of taking the issues seriously and posting everything here. The site that actually gets visitors.
David how much does your company make for being able to promote Rackley Technologies on every page of every local government website. How much do you make selling space on GilesMall that is linked to EDC and other government websites. How much revenues would your company lose if EDC was abolished and there is one less EDC site to host and maintain service? These are simply questions and posted to show any one can state anything. Any one can have their own personal motives for things to continue as is. I bet there are not any annual bids on who gets the contracts to host the local government and EDC websites.
12:04
You have made one of the most intelligent posting on this site. But do you really think that CG and his supporters will be honest or thoughtful enough to understand what you are saying or from where you are coming?
I haven't checked out the response an someone said that it was on a "sister" site---and somebody said it was childish---could've been done so as to moderate all the responses, to edit the "garbage". I would be glad to see a string dedicated to the subject and not the personal attacks and derailment from a topic. Just depends on how the editing is done I guess.
7:08
David Rackley has done a lot of good for Giles County, and you people just can't stand it that he is in a position to do so.
Exactly WHAT have you unhappy people done foe the betterment of our county? NOTHING! All you seem to do is point fingers and cause trouble.
You mention that I have followers. That would be a lie. I am my own person, and I don't need notoriety or some sort of following. Perhaps we should all follow the Lord and His teachings, and we wouldn't have all this "choosing up sides" mentality. If I have any followers, I certainly don't know about it.
CG
Enabler,
I agree that you do not have followers, you blindly follow. And like I said before if you vouch for David then my suspicions about him have greatly increased.
9:17
The only enabler I know of is you who insist on promoting the lie Allen Barrett told. I have offered to never mention this again if you will stop bringing it up. I'm fairly certain the Barrett would prefer not being reminded of this.
Think about this. You could be hurting his chances for another unsuccessful bid for a seat on the commission.
To the ENABLER, you continue to lie about me with your crude claims of innocence but to this moment you have not supplied any not one single piece of practical evidence that you are not an enabler, in fact you have actually supported my claim that you are an "ENABLER of WRONGDOING" when you stated that you know there was wrongdoing taking place in the county before I said anything about it, but you did nothing to stop or change it and that is the perfect definition of an enabler. If you are the Christian you claim to be isn't it about time you grow some real Christian character and honestly look at your unfounded hypocritical claims and perverted accusations based in gossip and rumors, instead of using that claim of Christianity to hide behind while spewing devilish untruths?
Barrett
You told a lie when you accused me of enabling wrongdoings. That was a lie when you told it, and it remains as such to this very day. Stop lying, and this will die on the vine. I have made that promise to you and to your buddy who keeps bringing it up.
You of all people have no earthly business judging my "Christian character". I would suggest that you take inventory of your own while looking at yourself in a mirror. Surely, you can't be that hypocritical? I don't believe I would be accusing anybody of hiding behind Christianity if I were you. You are, in my opinion, the biggest joke I have ever encountered in my life. Why do you think so many people despise you? Think about it. And that is no unfounded devilish untruth. All you need do is ask around the community who is the most despicable person in Giles County. You might be amazed at how many times your name pops up.
Bet his name don’t come up as much as your cowardly add, oh but you keep throwing anonymous slurs while claiming to be a human.
I've asked around town and two people are running a close tie, WAB and CG.
7:29 (aka 7:30)
I told the truth, and you just can't stand it, can you? Exactly what "slurs" did I throw at anyone?
Barrett is the one using slurs and smart remarks. Don't take my word for that. Just read any of several posts he has made on this trashy forum. I would direct you to his post at 1:45 as a prime example of how he talks to people. AND YOU DEFEND THAT?
I know you haven't asked around town or you would know that what I said is true. Try it; I challenge you. But be courageous enough to accept the truth when it becomes apparent. You could even tell people that you are taking an unofficial survey. Ok?
Well 806, if I follow you--you are cg? If that is right, here's what I say.....
Like him or not-at least Barrett has a backbone to stand and defend for what he believes is right. He posts reasons, paperwork an gives his logic---right or wrong it's there to read.....
All I see from your string is " that lie that Barrett told on me"......... Could you at least say it correctly? The lie that Barrett told about me.
Sorry to whomever if I've mixed up names and posts--y'all get it. Who even remembers the subject now.????
Maybe that was actually post 550?
Now cg knows what other people do. What a laugh he is.
cg you just can't stand to think there are some that don't even know WAB except what they read on this blog that think you are as bad as he is.
If you think this blog is so trashy why do you read it?
I saw a good post by Ray to you but you just couldn't under stand you do anything wrong.
10:12 - 10:56
You'd better believe I am a Christian gentleman and that I did post at 8:06. I will need to do a better job with my grammar in the future, because I know that you will be grading me closely. How laughable can you get?
Keep in mind that there are a LOT of people out there who have never met your hero and who find him despicable. As I said, all you have to do is ask around.
Let me tell you what I would find completely intolerable. I couldn't bear the hurt of knowing I was despised and ridiculed in my own community. THAT is what I couldn't stand!
Yes, this blog is pure filth and trash, but I read it simply because I want to stay abreast of who you people are currently attacking and trying to ruin.
As for Ray, he and I have had our differences, but he has been kind to me. I find him a pretty cool guy. So nice try with that one.
Well I'm kit actually into correcting ones grammar-it's a blog, typos happen. But since you dominate and drone on about "that lie"...I'm just sick of seeing it, Mr, Barrett is not "my" hero. Why does thinking for myself make him so in your eyes? And what does it matter what other people think? I for one could care less what someone thinks of me if I am standing for what is right--I really could care less. You must have had a hard time in school dealing with peer pressure and not thinking for yourself.
I am however glad you are a Christian...we ALL can be forgiven if we ask and turn away from those ways.
7:37
It's really simple. I have asked him to stop telling that lie, and he refuses to do so. I have offered to never bring it up again if he and his buddy would quit lying.
Well thanks for at least a cordial answer. I agree if I believed someone lied about me, I wouldn't stop ether. So from your point of view I see that. Wish all parties could just agree to disagree, or just leave it off the discussion topics, maybe it could be its own thread? I can tell you I'd just confront the lyer or ignore it. Apologies for the earlier frustration,
10:04 That's perfectly ok, and I understand. I have asked Barrett and his buddy to stop it and neither of them will. So I don't sit still for being called a name I do not deserve. Thanks.
So 10:04 maybe you should look at the large number of examples Barrett and others have put on here proving ch is an enabler of wrong and look at the reason cg gives as to why Barrett and others have lied. Even ch admitted he knew about wrongdoing before Barrett brought it up but he refused to do anything about it. It seems the sun of omission is just as much a problem as other sins. Cg closes his eyes and mind then gets upset because others do what he’s afraid to do.
3:59
My comments about what I think of Mr. Jackson, the former PES director, Mr. Speer and others have proven that Allen Barrett told a lie when he accused me of willfully going along with wrongdoings. In addition a Christian would NEVER willfully support wrongdoings if he or she is truly following Christ. In addition, a Christian would not be a part of name-calling and causing trouble in an attempt to ruin people in the the community.
You are the one who is enabling the lie he told, and I'm just not going to let either of you go unchallenged when I know who I am and what I stand for.
4:11 Did you post you knew something was going on before Barrett posted it?
A yes or no will do.
8:42
I think so but can't remember for certain. If you want a YES or No, I'm afraid you won't get it from me. Why should I? NOBODY else here will do that. What's your point?
I did not write 8:42 but the point is you are an enabler. Proven by your own statements.
The point was others have mentioned it to you and you ignore that part of their post. So I wanted to know if you posted that or not.
10:04
No, you are the true enabler for promoting the lie Allen Barrett told that I willfully go along with wrongdoings. He lied, and that's a given. When you stop enabling his lie, I will cease to remind you that he told it.
6:27 Why didn't you answer 4:12's post?
6:58 Others have mentioned what? I answered our question. Refer to my 8:35 post. Do you have anything of substance that you want to discuss?
your question....
10:13 Did you not going to church today?
3:34
I wasn't feeling well yesterday and did not attend morning services. However, I went Sunday night. Is that Ok with you?
This is a question asked of the enabler and his answer.
"4:11 Did you post you knew something was going on before Barrett posted it?
A yes or no will do.
Friday, June 14, 2013 8:42:00 PM
Anonymous said...
8:42
I think so but can't remember for certain. If you want a YES or No, I'm afraid you won't get it from me. Why should I? NOBODY else here will do that. What's your point?
Saturday, June 15, 2013 8:35:00 AM
Let me help you with your faulty memory. On Monday 13 May 2013 you posted this comment at 6:15 AM under the topic "Did Commissioner Terry Harwell really have a sex change or was he just confused and hungry?"
You wrote; "You guys claim responsibility for bringing "problems" to our attention, but most of us were aware of them anyway. Besides, who appointed you guys to be our watchdogs anyhow? Now that you have enlightened usm why don't you take a break and try to get along with people?"
This is the very definition of the term ENABLER, knowing that something is wrong but doing nothing to stop or change it. To paraphrase a famous quote, "the greatest thing that advances evil is when good men see it and do nothing".
Barrett
To answer your question...NO; I did not know of anything going on prior to its occurrence. At least that's my recollection, and I'm not total sure. I learned a good while ago that anything I repeated that I had heard would be pounced upon by you and your loyal buddy as gossip and hearsay. But it's factual if you guys repeat something, isn't it?
And I will stand by what I said that most people are aware that problems exist in our county government just as there are in any county government. Knowing that problems exist does not mean that I willfully go along with them. That sir is the lie you told on me that I would enable such things. You lied.
As for what I do to stop things going on that I believe to be wrong, I exercise my right to vote for people I think should be in office and to vote against people like you whom I sincerely believe should never be one of our elected officials. As far as I know, I still have that right.
You state that the greatest thing that advances evil is when good men see it and do nothing. I AM a good man whether you approve or not. Thank God, it's not up to you.
I hope I have again been able to clear up another of your misunderstandings.
If someone post something and say US, does that not mean they were included?
Sometimes a person can get voted in and really mess things up. They can do a lot of damage in four years. But cg thinks we are suppose to set back and take it until time to vote again.
I hope CG enjoys his Obamacare or if he's not on it yet, his older relatives are enjoying it. A question, in time want everybody be on it?
CG, how can anyone know of something going on before it's occurrence?
The question wasn't as to whether you are a good man but that you as a good man have allowed bad things to happen unchallenged and that is what makes you an enabler.
Ok cg, we had a thoughful understanding about standing for what you believe the other day--I can still go with that--
My question is though---if you knew of problems in government--what do you suggest doing about them? (Besides just voting) pretend a time before Mr Barrett.....what would you suggest? Seems to me his voicing of the problems in order to educate those who wouldn't otherwise know who's doing what (never mind procedure) in order to decide who they want to elect.
You may not agree with how he does it--sometimes I don't, but that is his choice if he wants to put up with the attacks right? I'm greatful he does it--I just people would listen and hear before they just ignore things.
Lets see--maybe you could address the county commission and air what you see is wrong, you know bring it to their attention?....oh yea, the county execs les that all but impossible....or maybe talk to your reps--which some wont listen they've already decided.....
Please let us me know swat you'd do?
Before Barrett caused the county to spend over a$100k on his hair-brained charter election and defending his frivolous lawsuits, we had a reserve fund balance. So, I for one, would love to go back to a time before Barrett and the harm he has done.
Even if your 100k frivolous crap an charter thing was right---the hospital fund and reserves were in the millions---how does your math add up?
11:52...aka 12:06/12:15
I see you've been busy while I was away. Please allow me to address your spewings.
First of all, I campaigned just as hard against Obama as I did Bill Haslam and even Allen Barrett. None of these people should be 9my opinion) in positions of authority over others. That doesn't mean I would organize mobs against them, call them dirty nasty names, and do all within my power to destroy these people in the minds of others. I don't think anybody should have to endure that, be it public or private citizen. I think Obamacare is one of the worst things that's ever happened to our country...besides the election of Obama. To the ebst of my knowledge, nobody in my family is on it as you falsely assert.
Secondly, I AM a good and decent man who would never keep my mouth shut about things I believe to be wrong. I campaign for and support candidates whom I believe are in the best interests of our nation, state, and county. I also work against things I believe to be wrong for our county. A good example of that would be a charter we never needed to begin with. And YES, I believe it did cost the county close to a hundred thousand dollars to see it on the ballot and defeated.
Lastly, just because I know of things wrong in county and even state and federal government does NOT mean I go along with them. I believe I have addressed that in the second paragraph of this post.
We should always vote on candidates and issues we believe in. Just because what I think differs from your way of thinking doesn't make me wrong either. As for addressing the county commission, I have often talked to my commissioners about things I believe important. After all, that's what we are supposed to do. Or would you suggest we do our best to destroy them if they don't vote according to our own dictates? I don't think so. That's wrong and I would never be a part of that.
When a good and decent man knows things are wrong and does nothing to stop or change them especially because they are family or friends then that man seizes to be a good and deceit man.
It was good and decent men who allowed slavery, good and decent men who supported segregation, good and decent men who turned a deaf ear to the cries of of millions of Jews during the Holocaust; good and decent men close the church doors to many who are of a different color, financial status or social standing. Good and decent men who are right now in the congress making efforts to give this country away.
One of the things you seem unable to understand is that good and decent men can, have and do terrible things and allow terrible things through their ignorance, laziness, cowardice, and misguided efforts among other things. Being a good and decent man is subjective consider a muslim who commits an "honor killing" is considered a good and decent man among those sharing the same thoughts and values.
Barrett..
You presume a LOT by suggesting that I am anything but a good and decent man. And I suppose you see yourself as one? I don't! What about that?
Some "good and decent " men may do horrible things as you suggest, but I don't know any who would do so. Perhaps you do? Or maybe your definition of good and decent is a polar opposite of mine?
Please allow me to share a few thoughts of my own as to what a good and decent man will NOT do. He would not be running around stirring up trouble, calling people nasty names, and judging the " Christian" character of others. Furthermore, I don't think he would be out there accusing decent and hard-working people of serious crimes. Would you agree?
If a person draws Social Security which they paid in for and maybe I'm wrong but I thought everybody that worked had to pay Social Security.
Then when they became 65 they go on Medicare. When I became 65 my Blue Cross Blue Shield told me I could have supplement from them but not my regular insurance. Now the question does everybody over 65 go on Medicare and is it ObamaCare now? If so CG must not have anyone over 65 living in his family from his post of 1:38.
The Christian gentleman has nobody in his family who is over 65. You are right.
CG
So he is a child posting and orphaned.
I did not presume anything CG I simply took your word for truth that you are a good and decent man, but by the few examples I gave and the few reasons why they may allow bad things to take place it should be very clear that bad things happen when good and decent men know of a wrong and refuse to do anything to change it. As for stirring up trouble, I challenge you to declare any trouble I started that did not have the deceit and wrongness of a public official at the core.
Barrett..
You just had to have a "but" to your comment about my being a good and decent man....and one who, by the way, would never ever go along with wrongdoings. As a Christian, I am far from perfect, but I don't engage in willful sin.
You assertion that I refuse to do anything about things I see as wrong is a false statement. I believe I have sufficiently explained my position on campaigning for and against candidates and issues, so there's no point in going there again.
I campaigned against and voted against Obama and Bill Haslam. I campaigned against you. I voted against the charter and in favor of zoning. So don't lie and say I refuse to do anything.
Barrett...I was wondering: does it make you a good and decent man to say what you did about Mr. Harwell's possibly having had a sex change operation? Can you see any hypocrisy in that and your above post? I can.
From Webster's:
"Hypocrite: a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion. 2. : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings. See for example, Allen Barrett."
Wow. The dictionary pegged that one correctly.
WAB
Isn't the 10:16 post a sad testimonial for you? I couldn't live with thinking people viewed me as so very many see you. And yet, I really don't think you care.
7:25
But they do and the sad thing is you care so very badly what others think instead of being your own person.
CG, It did you a lot of good to campaign against Obama didn't it? He won not one but two times.
9:53/9:54
They...meaning you and your buddy Barrett? What a joke.
Did you vote for Obama? Would you admit it now?
If I had voted for Obama I would admit it now. Only I didn't vote for him.
I'm glad to see you are still alive. I had began to worry no post from you.
Like most Americans, I voted for President Obama twice and am extremely proud of it.
3:02
Then the lies and scandals don't bother you one bit? What about Benghazi? What about abortion and gay marriage?
You are right about one thing, as was Governor Romney. No matter what Obama does, he can be assured that of close to 50% support. Those who voted for him or any democrat for that matter are not going to change their votes regardless of what the party stands for. It's a sad indicator of the way moral values have slipped into the toilet in this country.
No. The lies of Fox News and made up scandals stopped bothering me long ago. Fixing Bush's fiscal irresponsibility and cutting the deficit in half are good enough for me. As for gay marriage? Why shouldn't they have the right to be as unhappy as the rest of us.
Made-up scandals? Unbelievable. Care to explain why the liar-in-chief's approval ratings have slipped in the past couple of years from 72% all the way down to the less than 48% who are going to support him no matter what he does to our country? That's verifiable as are the various scandals. Bush would have been impeached for any one of them. What about our First and Second Amendment rights that are slowly being taken away by this scoundrel?
Ooops; look out! A drone may be on its way to my house.
if you are an identified terrorist then I hope it is. Why wait until they blow off another kid's legs.
I fully agree with your excellent post 4:50.
To Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:02:00 PM
You have exaggerated in an extreme way. Most Americans have never voted for obama and that is simply a fact.
I would suggest that you open your eyes and take a good look at the world, even obama has run out of things to blame Bush for. It's plain laughter that resulted from your joke about obama cutting the deficit in half, the fact is the deficit has increased even with the massive printing of worthless money. The national debt is an embarrassment and no one even wants to talk about the incredible cost obamacare and the amnesty of illegals and their families will cost. Oh by the way, I'm sure you are aware that by law, spending begins in the House of Representatives which along with the Senate was controlled by democrats for the last two years of the Bush administration, now before you accuse me of being a Bush worshiper, I was as disgusted with Bush and his lack of leadership and strength and liberalism as I was with Carter, Clinton and Obama.
I'm sorry. I should have said "like most Americans who love their country enough to vote, I voted for President Obama twice."
I too was disgusted by Bush's lack of liberalism. (If you wish to be a journalist, you may want to brush up on your grammar).
Thanks for the joke 643...."most" of us needed the humor. You should write for Letterman.
Truth hurts sometimes
Barrett you keep proving my point that society has dumbed down. The deficit and the national debt are two separate things. "deficit" = annual shortfall. "national debt" = total owed after 238 years of American budgets. The "deficit" is half of what it was under Bush's last year. The "national debt" has increased because there is still some -- are you still with me? -- "deficit" spending, albeit at 50% of its former amount.
Confusing the two is, as you say, plainly laughable.
To the Obama supporter...
Does it not bother you just a teeny-weeny bit that Obama's trip to Europe is going to cost the American taxpayers over 100 million dollars? I suppose that's ok with you as long as the entitlements crowd gets their freebies.
I just had to laugh when I recalled that Obama asked us to make sure our tires were properly inflated.
Obama spends money like Giles County Commissioners do, so why should it bother the Obama supporter?
Looks like to hick with the tax payers.
To Tuesday at 11:39. I apologize for confusing you by posting two subjects in one post. I was under the mistaken impression that even you might understand that a period ends a sentence so that a new one can follow.
Of course the deficit is different from the debt and both are embarrassments.
When you look at the deficit you need to look at the actual numbers and not the projections for ten years from now. Bush ran average deficits of 410 billion a year while obama has averaged yearly deficits of 1,41 trillion. Bush had his worst years during the last two when democrats controlled both the House and Senate, obama has had his best years with the House controlled by the Republicans. As for the NATIONAL DEBT obama has added more than a trillion dollars to the DEBT each year. When obamacare is fully implemented that debt with increase by over six trillion dollars.
The only reason the deficit looks anywhere under control is that the treasury has been printing money around the clock until our bond rating has been downgraded, other countries including communist China and Russia has warned us about the huge debt, the dollar has decreased in value thus pushing the cost of oil, gold and other foreign products higher and higher.
As for the comment about liberalism I can see where I might have confused you, my intent was to convey the idea that Bush had moved farther and farther to the left with his associations and policies.
I wasn't an English major choosing economics and American History instead.
Sounds like you may have skipped a few too many economics and American History classes, as this year's deficit is less than half of what President Bush's was when he left office.
You are just wrong 2:52.
Here is the budget deficit or surplus by fiscal year, according to Congressional Budget Office data for modern history.
2013 - $901 trillion budget deficit (projected)
2012 - $1.1 trillion budget deficit
2011 - $1.3 trillion budget deficit
2010 - $1.3 trillion budget deficit
2009 - $1.4 trillion budget deficit
2008 - $455 billion budget deficit
2007 - $162 billion budget deficit
2006 - $248.2 billion budget deficit
2005 - $319 billion budget deficit
2004 - $412.7 billion budget deficit
2003 - $377.6 billion budget deficit
2002 - $157.8 billion budget deficit
2001 - $128.2 billion budget surplus
2000 - $236.2 billion budget surplus
1999 - $125.6 billion budget surplus
1998 - $69.3 billion budget surplus
1997 - $21.9 billion budget deficit
1996 - $107.4 billion budget deficit
1995 - $164 billion budget deficit
1994 - $203.2 billion budget deficit
1993 - $255.1 billion budget deficit
1992 - $290.3 billion budget deficit
1991 - $269.2 billion budget deficit
1990 - $221 billion budget deficit
1989 - $152.6 billion budget deficit
1988 - $155.2 billion budget deficit
1987 - $149.7 billion budget deficit
1986 - $221.2 billion budget deficit
1987 - $149.7 billion budget deficit
1986 - $221.2 billion budget deficit
1985 - $212.3 billion budget deficit
1984 - $185.4 billion budget deficit
1983 - $207.8 billion budget deficit
1982 - $128 billion budget deficit
1981 - $79 billion budget deficit
1980 - $73.8 billion budget deficit
1979 - $40.7 billion budget deficit
1978 - $59.2 billion budget deficit
1977 - $53.7 billion budget deficit
1976 - $73.7 billion budget deficit
1975 - $53.2 billion budget deficit
1974 - $6.1 billion budget deficit
1973 - $14.9 billion budget deficit
1972 - $23.4 billion budget deficit
Fortunately the actual deficit this year was only $623b. Less than half the 09 budget signed into law by Bush. Maybe you were absent the day actual numbers were released.
I heard "What difference does it make," Hillary is going to run in 2016.
8:10 It's about time it got under a trillion isn't?
Absolutely!!!! It just took a President Obama to bring it down. Maybe we can make it back to those 3 surplus years we had under the first President Clinton. At that trajectory it was once predicted that we would have paid off the entire national debt by 2015. That is until Bush came along.
810 & 939.....
Denial is a great thing for you isn't it?
Living at the corner of oblivious & bias has just got you eat up hasn't it?
Yes- out country is ssssoooooo much better financially because of Obama isn't it?
That's sarcasm-I don't really expect (or want a rebuttle)
As to where we were after 8 years of Bush??? You're kidding, right?
9:39 I believe it got to the trillion under Obama. I'm glad he is bring it down no, thank goodness.
I agree with what you said about Bill Clinton. He was trying to pay off the national debt. Too bad he couldn't of stayed in like FDR did.
The budget under Clinton was balanced
because of the Gingrich led Republican congress. The only reason the deficit is down now is because of the Republican led House. The budget under Bush exploded when Frank and Dodd destroyed the housing market by forcing banks to loan money to people who could not afford the payments. Pelosi helped as leader of the House with her insanity and Maxine Waters feed big money to her husbands bank.Obama has followed suit with billions of tax dollars to his friends and donors pretending to do business as green energy companies. Over a billion dollars spent on personal vacations and numerous scandals with numerous dead Americans as a result. Detached, lazy, incompetent, stupid and a punk liar who is in denial of reality that what obama is.
No. Bush spent billions in unnecessary wars and on bailing out the fat cats on Wall Street. Now our great grandchildren get to pay that back.
Nice name calling. We can always count on that giant intellect to so eloquently argue, and when out of logic to resort to name calling. Welcome back!
Let me see if I can equally and persuasively respond:
"Is not. "
12:27 What are you talking about "Is not."
6:25 Have you ever known cg to answer a question?
11:04
Busy, busy, busy aren't we? For your information, I am a Christian and a gentleman, and I did not make that post. My but we are quick to pounce, aren't we?
Look who pounces so quick saying someone else does. What a laugh you are 4:49.
4:49 Who said you wasn't a Christian and a gentleman? Seems you just like to through that out there to people.
10:55
Look, the ONLY reason I ever referred to myself as a Christian and a gentleman is because of the "proof" Allen Barrett demanded that I am not a willing participant in wrongdoings. He wouldn't accept it. And yes, I have to continually remind Barrett and his buddy (is that you) that they are lying when I'm accused of going along with things I know to be wrong.
As far as beating my own drum and throwing it out there to people, I have offered on more than one occasion to stop mentioning this if they will stop with the lie.
CG needs to get his glasses changed.
I think he meant 10:05 instead of 10:55.
You are correct. Perhaps it's time to get an eye exam? Thanks for being so detail-oriented.
Gotta go....late for services. See you there? CG
Clinton and W made the same trip as Obama and, according to faux news, the expense is about on par with there's as well. Figuring in inflation and cost of living, it is basically the same.
The difference is that Obama tells us to air up our tires and spends taxpayer money like this? Times were never harder since the Great Depression, and that lying scoundrel spends a hundred million dollars we don't have anymore!
I guess it all proves that we get the kind of government we allow. And we who saw this coming and who didn't vote for Obama will also have to suffer before he leaves office.
Neither Clinton or W spent a 100 million on a vacation no where near. Why hasn't the 500 guest accompanying obama been identified? This is a terrible thing in light of all the scandals and financial mess we're in.
Check with your friends at Fox, B; they said it, not me.
So much talk and so few answers from Mr. Rackley. I'm beginning to have serious doubts about the man's willingness to answer the questions honestly.
9:11
He did, and you just need to accept his answers. David Rackley is indeed an honest man who has done a lot of good for our county. It's just shameful that a vindictive little man wants to pick him apart if he can. But he can't.
dave's answers would carry more weight if he provided proof. Allen produced page after page of documents supporting his position: I have yet to see the same from rackley. Perhaps I'm looking in the wrong place. I would love to see more than just gum flapping as "proof" of his side of things.
Ray
I agree with Ray, Barrett showed documents while Rackley blew smoke. If Barrett provided false documents then he should be run out of town but if they are real then people deserve better answers with proof than what has been given.
12:26
I'll be glad to supply the rail.
Oh boy are you supplying the rail to run cg put of town, 12:40?
No...the rail would be for Barrett. Perhaps you could add some tar and a sack full of feathers?
Talking about running anyone out town isn't very religious.
But would be a very righteous act, don't you think?
Sounds decidedly UN-christian like to me. I would love to attend your church, seems y'all get to do and say anything you like. Move over, Jesus, there's a new right-hand man on the way.
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