Is There A Need For A Democratic Primary?
Why are so many people who are active in the democrat party running for office as independents? Is it because they don't have a democratic primary to run in?
I spoke with a democrat recently and they suggested this topic as they were rather put off by well known democrats not wanting to be identified with their party.
I think that were I a democrat I also would not want to be identified with Obama the most secretive lawbreaking and worst president ever, Biden the idiot vice president that can't put three words together without embarrassing everyone, Harry Reid the most corrupt liar to ever become a multimillionaire from being a senator, Nancy Pelosi whose last brain cell died many years ago and now isn't smart enough to stay on her psychotropic medications. Why would anyone want to be identified with the baby killing amnesty for illegal aliens and special benefits for those unwilling to work?
After all the accomplishments of the democrats and pretend conservatives such as high unemployment; high gas prices; astronomical utilities and cost of food along with a national debt that our great grandchildren will still be paying on a hundred years from now, then add to that a general malaise that the nations best is behind us and who can blame those pesky democrats for wanting to remain hidden.
I spoke with a democrat recently and they suggested this topic as they were rather put off by well known democrats not wanting to be identified with their party.
I think that were I a democrat I also would not want to be identified with Obama the most secretive lawbreaking and worst president ever, Biden the idiot vice president that can't put three words together without embarrassing everyone, Harry Reid the most corrupt liar to ever become a multimillionaire from being a senator, Nancy Pelosi whose last brain cell died many years ago and now isn't smart enough to stay on her psychotropic medications. Why would anyone want to be identified with the baby killing amnesty for illegal aliens and special benefits for those unwilling to work?
After all the accomplishments of the democrats and pretend conservatives such as high unemployment; high gas prices; astronomical utilities and cost of food along with a national debt that our great grandchildren will still be paying on a hundred years from now, then add to that a general malaise that the nations best is behind us and who can blame those pesky democrats for wanting to remain hidden.
posted by Allen Barrett | 8:52 PM
203 Comments:
Great way to change the subject and move on to piss someone else off! He who dies with most enemies, win a free trip straight to hell! Save up your ice water, your going to need it WAB!
Thanks o' foolish one but God is in charge of where I go and He already decided that I would be coming to Him through His Son Jesus the Christ.
I will keep in mind that your ignorance of how one get's into Heaven will be a challenge for you so I'll pray that you'll gain insight to know it's not friendships with the world but to be reborn in Christ as the only way to Heaven.
First time I've heard if you have enemies you went to hell.
Jesus had enemies they nailed him to the cross, but he didn't go to hell.
Mr. Barrett. Here's your answer. It's simply because partisan politics has no place in county government. What difference does it make if, let's say Carol Wade, is a Democrat or a Republican? And those who ran as independents knew this. I would have done the same thing, not wanting to put my name on a ballot that cost the county taxpayers well over twenty thousand dollars. I think voters are going to remember this in August.
Isn't it true that you were against it before you were for it?
7:15 I want to know which party people are part of because it says so much about their intelligence, morals and common sense. A person who declares to be a democrat has aligned their self with a party that supports killing babies for convenience and at taxpayer expense, they support turning the best medical system in the world into a third rate government program that will make the VA system look efficient, they support an enemy of the county and lawbreaker of gigantic proportions in barack obama, they support higher gas prices and utilities, they are a party where insects and useless crustaceans are more important that people.
If Carol Wade ran as a democrat I would never vote for her because that would be a vote for stupid liberalism/socialism/communism.
Sorry WAB! What I meant to say in my 8:10 post was " the pink fox laid green eggs"! I hope that clears that up! Sound familiar?
8:16 I'm not WAB, but your post doesn't make any sense.
8:16 what stupid gibberish almost as stupid as your 8:10 comment.
But WAB will understand it! Lol!
You know 8:10 can't be CG he hasn't posted in 4 days. That means he didn't post Friday, Saturday, Sunday or Monday. Anyone believe that?
12:27 Maybe he has Dementia.
It saddens me to see such vitriol against our duly elected officials. This kind of partisan hatred is exactly why we should stay away from making our local elections partisan. Let people continue to run as individuals, make their case specifically about locals issues as individuals, and serve all the people of the county, not just their narrow party affiliations. The percent of voters who identify with either political party is at a low, with (nationally) just 22% identifying as Republicans and 31% identifying as Democrats. When you advocate for primaries, you are basically pushing for the most extreme factions of the electorate in each party to determine who is on the ballot for the rest of the more moderate voters to choose from. If party affiliation were all that important in our local elections, I am sure that more than 4 local (county) candidates would have come forward for the 33 seats that were on the Republican primary ballot. Clearly, Democrats are not the only ones who believe that partisan politics is not good for Giles County. This point has been made time and again by responsible Republicans in our county. They were not involved in the decision to run a primary. That decision was made in secret by just four tea-party affiliated (extremist) individuals. Those people have a political axe to grind, and want to rant about abortion and Benghazi and other of their "hot button" issues that have not one whit of relevance to running a well-governed county. Our issues here that affect all of us directly are jobs, education, infrastructure, and the budget. The people of Giles County want their elected officials to focus on these daily blocking and tackling issues, not get into a sideshow on fringe talking points.
3:46
You may have a point when those who are holding positions in the democrat party quit using members of the party, who are not residents, or have anything to do with Pulaski or Giles County, to come in and campaign for them for elected positions. Vicky Harwell is who I am talking about. She has stated how important it is to have democrats at local levels.
I want to know who is a republican, who is independent, and who is democrat. As a voter I have a right to be informed. This election, even though I am not Republican, I will be voting for that little R, unless I absolutely know who the person is and what type of government they support. A Democrat will not get my vote because I do not support their agendas and do not wish to support any member of the Democratic party in Pulaski or Giles County politics.
They have proved to be less than above board.
Well 3:46 how has those elected democrats and establishment republicans and independents worked out with jobs, education, infrastructure and the budget? It doesn't take a very close look to see the county under their leadership, or lack of, has taken step after step backward. Do you know any other counties that have lost population over the past decade? Do you know any other county our size that has as high a property tax? Do you know any other counties that have sought to be a "retirement community" other than in Florida and Arizona, then tries to tax those retirees beyond their capacity? Do you know any other county our size with as many lawsuits against it? Do you know of another county our size that has as few minorities with a county salary as ours? Do you know of another county with two high schools where one is predominately black while the other is predominately white? Do you know of any other counties where the employees work 35 hours and draw 40 hour pay with all medical paid by the taxpayer then complain that it's not enough? How many other counties treat one group of taxpayer like a charity and illegally give them benefits while not requiring they be organized as an official charity? How many other counties allow a county official to physically and verbally attack a citizen on a public street then dare that citizen to do something about it since he was a commissioner, not only is that commissioner allowed to keep his job he isn't even reprimanded for his hate speech and abusive behavior. How many other counties have absolutely no plan for the future other than to react as each crisis arrives. The list just goes on and on and on.
If the definition of insanity is indeed doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result then Giles County seems to suffer from a massive dose of insanity.
The only way to experience a different outcome is to change what controls that outcome. Giles County deserves real proven leadership and in twelve years Mrs Vanzant has not provided that needed leadership.
3:46 Would you care to tell who the four were that secretly decided for the Republican primary?
I would like to know who cost the taxpayers that money.
Have to say abortion and Benghazi bother me. Do you approve of it?
When you reply to me, please don't connect me with the other two post. I have my thoughts not theirs. You may not be the person that combines post like they all said the same thing when they didn't. I apologized if you're not.
No. There is no need for a Democratic Primary. Nor is there a need for a Republican primary. Nor a Libertarian, Green or Tea Party Primary.
Just wasteful spending. If a candidate wishes to announce his or her political affiliation, assuming they even have one, then they may certainly do so in their literature or on signs.
Don't spend my money on such waste.
11:30
So you don't believe in voter beware? Or an informed voter is a good voter?
Can you give reasons for your opinion? I do not agree that it is a waste of money or not needed.
I stated my opinion and some of the reasons I have arrived at that conclusion.
7:15 and 11:55 are both mine.
11:30 NO, what?
There isn't a need for a democrat, period!
Who are the four were that secretly decided for the Republican primary?
Mr. Barrett, in reference to your post on June 3, at 7:16, you are in error about the demographics of the high schools in the county. The link I am providing is for the 2012-2013 school year, so I am sure there are some slight differences, but not in the way you wrote. I will not argue that one school is predominately white, but for GCHS, your information is not correct. Not that it really makes a difference to me, but I felt the need for you to be more accurate in your statements. For information about the demographics of schools in our county, refer to this link: http://www.tn.gov/education/data/report_card/2013.shtml
Specifically, our entire district has a population of about 80% white, and 17% African American, and 1.7% Hispanic. At Richland School, grades 5-12, it is 95.9% white, and 1.8% African American.
At GCHS, the percentages are 77% white, 21& African American, and 1.5% Hispanic. Other categories are not included if there are not a certain number of students.
There is a typo in my last post. The & sign in the next to the last line should be a % symbol instead.
9:18 What about the other questions Barrett asked in that post?
To the 9:16 poster. I appreciate your comment and research and stand corrected.
According to the 2012-2013 data, Giles County High does indeed have a student make up of 77% (646) white and 22.5 (189) minorities with 21% (176) being African American. While Richland has 93.2% (653) white and 1.8% (12) minorities.
Instead of comparing the two schools with the term "predominately" I should have stated "disportionately". So to correct and clarify I should have stated that Richland is disportionately white while GCHS is disportionately black.
Again I appreciate your correction.
If you watch this video I think your vote for 7th District Commissioner will be.
Ms. Goolsby
Ms. Coleman
Tommy Campbell
That is if you don't want Harwell or Barrett.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-87Zp7HEmys
Goolsby has never been to a committee meeting of commissioners and makes no public statements or appearances so her involvement is zero.
Coleman can't manage her own money how can she manage ours.
Campbell wants a wheel tax and property tax increase so bad he drools when talking about it.
Harwell is a homophobic double dipping hate spewing idiot pushing for the same wheel tax and property tax increase Campbell and Coleman wants
Barrett irritates people by telling the truth and exposing the frauds.
Now who should I vote for, I'll take Barrett because he never lied to me and doesn't want to take what money I have left. He's the only one of the bunch that has fought for a freeze on senior citizens property taxes.
I keep hearing people talk about Pulaski and Giles County being a retiremnet community. I do not understand why this would be a negative? What is your definition of retirement community? Those communities that I have seen have been neat, clean, well behaved etc.
Pulaski and Giles County is not a retirement community, but if it were, would that be so bad?
What does Pulaski and Giles County have for rich retirement people to come to? They would have to be rich to afford the taxes our commissioners wan t to place on them.
12:50
Absolutely it would. The majority of citizens are not retired and have to leave the area for jobs. Unless they want to work for 25% less than they can get in neighboring counties for performing the same job.
2:24: Explain why people would have to leave for jobs? We are currently not a retirement community, and the jobs we are getting (800 at MM) are starting people off at $10 per hour.
I think that people have somehow determined that being a retirement community is bad. I'm looking for justification, not opinion.
Retired people need goods and services too. Those that have prepared usually have money to spend. The problem is that most do not prepare.
Yeah, freeze old folks property taxes and see how fast we sink down the shitter. I hope Barrett isn't that stupid. He will say anything to get a vote though.
The problem with being a retirement community is that most retired people are on fixed incomes and are much older than the average citizen. I believe this idea of the county being a retirement community was floated by Dan Speer when all the hoopla about Milky Way was running strong.
When the majority of the people are on fixed incomes especially such as social security they do not usually have a lot of money to spare and when taxes go up as they did with the recent reassessment on property and a proposal for a minimum $75.00 wheel tax it puts a terrible burden on those folks.
I have proposed and worked to get a freeze on the property taxes paid by low income seniors but the majority of Commissioners led by Mrs Vanzant rejected the proposal even though it would not have decreased the amount of taxes taken in by the county.
For a county or town to grow and be vibrant there must be a balance of things such as retired families, and good jobs to keep the younger people here as working families, recreational activities and educational opportunities, social activities and a sense of belonging. Giles County offers some of these things and is getting better at others. A few good jobs are becoming available but seems that the best ones are being filled by people from other places who are not moving here. While an low skilled job at $10.00 an hour may seem attractive that same job at $15.00 is hard to turn down even worse is the reality that for many food stamps and welfare with benefits provides more disposable income than a $10.00 an hour job.
My view is that if we can create a stronger desire for people to stay in Giles County they will, even if the pay is lower than elsewhere but this requires developing a stronger bond of community where everyone can be a part of and not a part from the benefits and the responsibilities. It's sort of like before the schools were consolidated and each community had their own school which was the center of their pride and activities.
A person, generally, will not feel a sense of pride and attachment to a thing they can not feel a responsibility for. Giles County is a wonderful place, the only place I ever choose to live in, yet we are hindered from a sense of unity by the clicklish, exclusion of isolationism practiced by some of the controlling elitist.
To 3:48 if you had any understanding about things before you pop your cork or perhaps you put your cork before mrunning off at the mouth, you would try to understand what freezing low income senior citizens property taxes actually mean.
I'll try to explain for you. The state authorized the practice several years ago and it has been very successfully applied in several counties across the state.
What it states is that senior citizens who meet the low income requirements and actually live in the dwelling would have their property taxes frozen at the level inforce at the time their application is accepted and would remain at that same level, regardless of any property tax increases as long as they continued to meet those requirements. The amount of acreage adjoining that dwelling is limited so that a hundred acre farm would not be fully exempt. This would prevent seniors who own their homes from having to sell them because they can no longer pay their taxes. To me there is something totally un American about a person who has worked all their life to pay for their home to have that home taken from them in their twilight years, it goes against the whole idea of property ownership.
3:35- do you really believe $10 per hour is a good starting wage? That's equal to around $21,000 per year which is below the 2014 US Poverty Rate for a family of 4 ($23,850). Giles County is not a retirement community, it's a poverty stricken community and it will continue to get worse unless new, more conservative leadership is elected.
Nothing is going to change Giles County from being poor. It's the nature of the beast coupled with poor geography. Large numbers of uneducated people that don't have much of a desire to work is what you have and will continue to have their.
People that work all their lives and didn't save enough to live on is not the governments problem, Barrett. Even though you and Obama think it should be.
6:07 You are such a dumbass 6:07. I don't know Barrett real well but one thing I do know is that he has nothing in common with obama and does not believe it is governments
's responsibility to take care of those able to take care of themselves.
There is a helluva difference in thinking the government should take care of someone and believing that the government should leave them the hell alone. People would have money to take care of themselves if the government mostly money grubbing democrats like you would get out of their damn pockets.
I guess you don't use the roads and never used the school system, 6:34. Sit down and figure out all the things the government provides for you and see if you are doing your part. I am not a democrat. I am smart enough to know that rednecks like you are too dumb to know what is provided.
It's probably best for everyone else if you never leave the house and use out stuff.
Unfortunately, a lot of folks, especially in this area, work all their lives and raise families on what is barely a living wage. Unless they are lucky enough to have a high paying job, there isn't a whole lot left to save or invest. With that in mind, the average amount of a social security check in 2011 was $1180.80. By the time they pay for their medicare, they are lucky to clear a grand a month. Couple that with the fact that most elderly folks are on medication and are being raped by Big Pharm, there simply isn't much left for the outrageous taxes levied in this county. Some of you seem to be happy discarding our old folks when they reach retirement age. I thing that is despicable. If you're lucky, you will be that age someday. I think then you will reconsider your cavalier attitude.
I would like to know what the people work at that has enough money to save any, send children to school and college. When you get old you will find you are sick more and insurance doesn't pay for all your meds and doctor bills.
We never took vacations, raised a garden, canned and froze our food, raised our children, was able to send them to college. Then my husband got cancer and couldn't work, At that time you had to be disable six months before drawing Social Security. Then you didn't get back pay from it. We worked at jobs that didn't have retirement. I had to quit work to wait on him. Burial expense is high even the cheapest you can get.
I resent you comparing people like me with those that want work. I know there are some. I had to sale my house and land to pay doctor bills and burial. Now a much smaller place is all I can afford. Taxes on that is high and me 8 year old car with high wheel tax is something I can't afford. I don't drive anymore than I just have to because gas is to high. At 80 I can't work. So I guess I am living in a retirement community.
Maybe you feel like some Congressmen and women, "Just get rid of the old people." Wake up you will be old before you know it.
9:59 I'm with you about these people with good jobs looking down on other hard working people that are having a hard time raining their family and paying their bills. Thinking they didn't try to save.
It use to be the woman could stay at home and raise her children the father made the living. those days are gone. Now it takes both parents working to to make a loving and even think about sending their children to college.
How many can find a job a good paying job after finishing college.
Especially in Giles county. You don't have to have a college education to work in a factor, fast food place or WalMart. Those people that think they are so much smarter and better than others should be ashamed. Wait until you walk in others shoes before condemning. Not much of a Christian to feel that way.
Goolsby, Coleman and Campbell?
I can live with that. A pretty good result for the 7th District.
Goolsby and Campbell are good. The rest are like picking turds out of a punch bowl.
you must not live in district 7 6:46.
7:23,
We will have to agree to disagree.
Barrett is the only one of that bunch in the 7th district that understands and is willing to do something about the high taxes. He stopped them before and he will stop the wheel tax.
Goolsby works for the school system and was hand picked to get in there an raise the taxes so she can put more in the schools. If all the people that make money off the schools win their elections you will see the biggest tax increase in histoiry. Coleman already went bankrupt so she can't manage her own money how can she manage other peoples. Campbell has been in there to long and has voted for ever tax increase there's been now he wants even more and 75 dollars on every car and truck. You didn't talk about Harwell but I saw what happened on the square and it was terrible then they say he is double dipping in county money. I'm sick of all these high taxes democrats trying to run everything and making a mess I'm gonna vote for Barrett and nobody else that way I know my vote will count.
I'm doing the same 8:22.
I also refuse to vote for any tax-happy candidates. I'm not against tax increases per se, I just don't agree with support every one that comes along. Unfortunately there are several commissioners who do. I guess they are looking for a raise for themselves with every term.
Wish I lived in 7th District so I could vote for WAB only.
We don't need someone like Harwell who can't control his angry.
9:59 Good post. I am also tired of getting classed as lazy and not preparing for the future. You never know what can happen to you to cause you to loose your savings.
I've always heard "what goes around always comes around." The smarty pants always yelling they should of prepared for the future should have saved just might wake up understanding some day.
9:21. So very glad you don't.
Friday, June 06, 2014 3:37:00 PM
Friday, June 06, 2014 6:07:00 PM
Sounds like CG always complain about people can't save enough to get by on in old age.
I'll have you know my job didn't offer retirement and pay wasn't great but we made it. I paid in for my Social Security and I deserve it!
It's not Welfare "Nancy and Harry and CG".
First time poster, long time reader.
I voted for Allen Barrett last time but I will not again.
I do not hate him the way some on here do, but I was deeply disappointed with his lawsuit after the election. The votes were so far against him I saw him as just another politician saying "to heck with what the people want, I want to get mine." I have no idea what all that cost the county, but whatever it was was money that could have been spent on roads or schools. Again, nothing personal, I just do not trust his judgment any longer.
Didn't Al Gore challenge George W. Bush's election to the presidency?
I think Gore was right. I don't believe the election was done right. Florida's fault in not cleaning vote machines before the election.
The expense to taxpayers in that election and the Giles County election was bad, but sometimes you have to show people their mistakes.
There was mistakes made in the election Barrett challenged. I never would of thought Kathy Bassham would of let something like that happen. All we can do is hope she has got on to her employees to never let something like that happen again.
9:42 I doubt you voted for WAB last time. Anyway good post CG.
9:42
Then you should absolutely not want Vanzant in there. 70,000 discrimination pay off, 250,000 wasted by bad judgment on the Hunter Smith building, the fleecing of millions from the hospital fund. The list goes on of the bad judgment shown by those currently holding office. Barrett showed something is wrong in our election office.
If you aren't voting for Barrett based on what you say then I have to question your judgment.
Y'all need to learn to recognize cg's style. None of the three post attributed to him were actually made by him.
9:42, would you not take any action you could if you felt you were wronged? That's one of the benefits of being an American. If the election commission had followed the law, there would not have been a lawsuit in the first place. Too many people just roll over and play dead when confronted with such a situation. I, for one, admire Allen for taking a stand. Now let the tirades and personal attacks begin.
Ray
As I understand it the gore/bush trial was over the counting of all votes. The Supreme Court shut down a recount that ultimately showed gore carried Florida.
Barrett's lawsuit was to throw out the majority votes. Those are very different goals.
No, Barrett's lawsuit was because the candidate did not follow the rules of the qualifying process. It had nothing to do with the majority votes. Not trying to get into an argument here, just trying to be factual.
8:10 Think your hatred for Barrett is showing. 8:51 is right.
Ray, I think CG is trying to change his style of posting so people want know it's him. Hard to believe he has stayed away this long.
You may be right 3:45. Let's try not to make our comments about him and see if he keeps his promise. I'm ready for some meaningful dialogue on here.
Ray
The Sunday 8:51 poster has it absolutely right but only covered one of the two issues that were in question.
Indeed there was no question, not even from the Mrs. Coleman or her attorneys, that she had failed to get the proper number of qualified signatures on her "Nominating Petitions". There was not even any disagreement that state law forbids a candidate from being on the ballot that did not qualify.
The second issue was that Mrs. Coleman had previously correctly qualified as a candidate for the school board and failed to properly withdraw from that race before attempting to qualify for the Commission race. Her defense for this was she presented a paper without any date stamp from the election office or any signature or initial of any official from the election office that had scribbled on it that she was withdrawing as a candidate for the school board.
Under oath Mrs Basham stated that they "were so busy with candidates turning in their paperwork they just over looked the signatures on her (Mrs Coleman's" nomination papers, and it was just a mistake and I'm sorry". Problem is the records presented showed there had been only three other candidates had turned in paperwork that morning and they had been there and gone by the time Mrs. Coleman was logged in.
As for the declaration of withdrawal supposedly submitted by Mrs. Coleman, Mrs. Bassham basically dismissed it as, "I don't know what happened".
Both issues that I raised were supported by the court but Judge Jones in his very biased and perverted sense of "justice" decided that even though there were disqualifying issues he was "not going to penalize Mrs Coleman".
This same issue came up in a recent election and the judge set aside the election because the candidate was not qualified to be on the ballot thus their votes were not to be counted.
Now if anyone would like to come to my house and read the transcript simply call me or come on over and I'll show you the entire transcript.
Nope. No need to do that. I am satisfied that 4 different judges have already read it and all unanimously said you were wrong. I'd say the case is over.
Good plan 10:32. It's always better to think you know the truth and possibly be ignorant than to find the truth and remove any doubt about your ignorance. If you weren't such a dumbass you would know that the judges did not say Barrett was wrong. Ignorance is bliss so I guess you are the happiest person in town.
Why are the two "independent" county mayor candidates running as independents when they are Democrats who are apparently totally ashamed of running as Democrats against their own Janet Vansant. Go Janet !!!!
At least she isn't ashamed to jump on the Dembocrat bandwagon as they guide this nation into darkness. I like a woman with conviction. I can't decide whether I'll vote for Bill Clinton via his wife Hillary for his third term, of vote for Obummer as emperor when he runs for a third term.
I didn't know Janet was a Democrat.
One of her opponents had was in the Republican primary wasn't he?
How do you know what you are if they don't have a D or R by their name?
One way to know is how active they ared in the democrat party, Vanzant has been a democrat for years and her incompetence proves it along with her close ties to the democrat party. Lindsey is also a democrat. Stowe ran as a republican and has strongly expressed the ideals of a true conservative with the competence and experience to be a real benefit to this county.
2:23 is either misinformed, not informed or just lying as there are two democrats running for county mayor but they are Vanzant and Lindsey.
Barrett.....Are you calling Mrs. Bassham a liar? If so, you are twice the scoundrel I thought you were. I believe she has more honesty in her little finger than you have in your entire body.
Look, you lost the election, not once but twice. The people didn't want you, and that didn't seem to matter. So you tried to overturn their wishes in court, and lost again. I hope the voters in your district remember that when they go to the polls in August.
Yea CG is still alive!
And with his return goes any hope of intelligent dialogue. The entire scope of the blog changes when he begins his dumbass comments. He give marines the world over a bad name.
To 7:51 as i said before the transcript speaks for itself and reveals much about the character of several individuals. If you ask about a specific statement that she made I will be able to give you a more definitive answer.
cg, sounds like you are calling Bassham incompetent. If she's not lying, then she's saying handling 3 candidate's paperwork is too much for her. I guess in your would it's better to be unable to do the job you were hired for than a liar. YOu sure must have been in a different military than I was.
Mr. Barrett
If I were you, I'd be ashamed to speculate about the character of anyone. You really are a scoundrel, and I have to believe the voters in your district are going to remember that in August.
You seem to delight in hurting others.
10:28 Does the truth hurt? It hurts like hell when it shows things you wouldn't want mentioned in church but the truth is the truth and when you do unscrupulous things they will come out.
Barrett ain't the problem he just ain't afraid to bring out the truth, I still haven't seen him proven wrong on these revelations.
He may not win again but I'll support him simply because he don't play the politic games of pretending to be one way then voting a different way. Who is elected in the 7th district says more about the people living there than it does about Barrett or the other candidates. If they want higher taxes and a wheel tax, if they want a liar, if they want somebody that has never been to a committee meeting, if they want someone who has taken bankruptcy, if they want a double dipping fool that can't control his homophobic hate and behavior then they will not vote for Barrett and keep what they have. For mr Barrett has proven to be the most informed, involved and common sense person running.
As I read this it made me think of Mr. Barrett and cg.
"It’s getting harder for media outlets to continue the agenda the Obama administration wants them to. Rock-solid truth can’t be argued with. Only a desperate media and government would personally attack the people trying to bring that truth to light.'
Yawn
Blog is slowing down when cg don't whine on it. So you can see why 1:13 is sleepy.
There may be fewer posts when cg doesn't comment, but the discussions are much more relevant. I, for one, am glad for the change.
I wouldn't call a constant bitchfest relevant, 8:53. That is the purpose and use of this blog for morons like you.
Where did you see in my post that I was bitching, dumbass? BTW, purpose and use mean the same thing. Brush up on your smarts before you try to insult someone.
So cg (5:30) is calling names now.
GS
I live in 7th District, and plan to vote for Mrs. Goolsby, Mr. Harwell, and Mrs. Coleman. Most people in our district know who NOT to vote for.
Goolsby never been to a committee meeting
Harwell can't control his homophobic hatred or his own finances
Coleman can't manage her own finances, can't attend budget meetings but wants both a wheel tax and property tax increase.
When you do the same dumb thing why would you expect a different result. It's time to give Barrett a chance to turn this place around cause the ones in there now have proven they can't do it.
Anybody attend the meeting this morning where the candidates spoke? How did it go? Did Vanzant show up and speak?
Yes, Mrs vanzant shoped up and spent her time talking about who she is married to, where she went to school and who her family is. The only thing she mentioned as "her" accomplishments was paying off the 7 million in school bonds, having gotten grants and loans to do water lines in parts of the county, (didn't mention that one of the first areas was through her place), spoke about how so many have good paying jobs now and the school system is top notch. The most amazing thing was when she ever so calmly declared that she was not in favor of a property tax increase and wheel tax, (this is the exact opposite of what she has expressed in the budget committee but then she never has been too meetings attached to the truth).
The Chamber did a great job and there was a really good turn out of candidates and other citizens, especially for a rainy Friday morning.
Very impressive group of candidates spoke, most confirming their relationship to the county through their families, a few shared some very impressive ideas about carrying the county forward.
Charlie G
I plan to vote for Mrs. Goolsby, Mr. Harwell, and Mrs. Coleman. Deal with it.
No, the last thing we need as a commissioner is someone like Allen Barrett. It's funny that the people who know him best in his district gave him a resounding NO vote not once but twice.
Even if he were elected, exactly what could he do in and of himself since he would be only one among 21 commissioners. That dog don't hunt.
Again, my votes go to those in 7th District whom you guys have mounted a sustained attack campaign. Don't kid yourself; the voters in 7th District see this clearly.
9:13 Just wondering how you know WAB? Do you really know TH? Do you also have trouble controlling your temper so think that is alright? Better still are you related to Harwell? I don't care if WAB wins or not, but sure would love to see Terry Harwell get out of Giles County.
I was not at the rally; but, a friend of mine said that Mr. Stowe hammered the current County Government for being out of touch with reality. He supposedly also hammered all the citizens for being apathetic. I understand that he said the county has no leadership, no plan and that the citizens need to get off their collective asses and change the way things are run.
Can anyone who might have been at the rally confirm this?
Let's attack Stowe, don't want him to beat your precious Jp.
I was at the meeting and neither Stow or Lindsey "hammered" anyone.
What Stow did was very nicely point out the state of the current government by stating what he would do as County Mayor. he never said anything about his opponents, nobody said anything negative about another candidate in any of the races. Do you think it's "hammering" someone to say what your plan is for the county?
I know Janet came off poorly by relying on her having been born here and how important her family has been to the county. I went to school with her at Bodenheim she was a manipulating teachers pet that lied and told on others to get what she wanted.
7:18 Graham Stowe's speech is on his Facebook page if you want to see how much "hammering" he did. Geez. The way you guys spread lies and rumors is shameful. And yes, I went to the forum. And before anyone says he did not say such and such, several candidates got cut short and Stowe was one of them.I thought his speech was great and I found him a pleasant fellow when I got to speak with him afterwards. And his children were precious, handing out cards. He earned my vote. Glad I went.
9:57
When are you guys going to mount the big attack campaign against Mrs. Vanzant? Most people who visit this blog know ut's coming. What you just said was low-down, but we both know you folks are going to bring out the bug guns soon...right?
You make me want to go out and campaign for Mrs. Vanzant even more.
The "bug guns" are exactly what's needed 6:10 to get rid of the destructive pests that are destroying this garden paradise.
The "attack" campaign was begun by you several years ago with the lies and gossip you spread.
I wonder if you would still support Vanzant if she was taken out of the Courthouse in handcuffs or would it just be a conspiracy by the justice system. No doubt to give the same support to Hillary Clinton and Obama.
6:10 Are you loving the attacks against Mrs. Vanzant? You seem to be begging for more. Most of the attacks is to try and upset you not really because they don't like Mrs. Vanzant. If you didn't stop you may loose this election for her. I hope you will be happy then.
More lies and propaganda from the enabler. Keep saying it soldier, maybe you'll eventually convince yourself.
7:42/`11:20
When will the "big guns" be brought out against Mrs. Vanzant? As I said, we know it's coming. Now, should ANY elected official break the law and be led away in handcuffs, I would say that's a good thing, and I would support that individual's being punished. But when that is not the case, I would say that you and those like you who want Mrs. Vanzant out of the way would manufacture something to discredit her in the eyes of the voters. But here's the reality. Most people see through this.
There you go again promoting a lie that was told by one who ought to know better. You want to call me an enabler because I do not see things the way you do? That's garbage.
I call you an enabler because you insist on enabling strife and discontent. You aren't happy unless you can be saying something negative about someone. At your age, you should really know better.
2:19 But you are the one enabling a lie that was told on me. Aren't you being a bit hypocritical? Come to think of it, almost all of my posts on here and especially of late have been to offer opposing views to what you guys are saying. But that's the problem you have always had with me.
No, my problem with you is that you sling words like "hypocritical" around in every post while being the biggest hypocrite on here. I call you an enabler because it has been proven time after time that you are one. In all the years you have posted on here, you have yet to offer proof against the charge. Live with what you created, enabler.
WOW! Tell it like it is.
10:57
No, your problem with me is that I point out the hypocrisies I see on here when they become apparent...and that is quite often! You can't stand the fact that there really are views and opinions that do not coincide with those of you or people like Allen Barrett.
You call me an enabler, and I will again say that it is you who is enabling a cheap lie that was told on me because of my different views and opinions. And THAT alone is hypocritical. As for me, the Lord knows and my family knows that I would never ever knowingly go along with something I believe to be wrong. And guess what? I don't have to prove that to you.
6:11 Yes, the Lord knows everything you do or write. Sometimes you need to think about that.
The Lord knows everything everyone does or post, but you are the only one claiming to be such a good Christian.
To the 6:11 poster. The 10:57 poster pegged you correctly.
You claim I am the one who started a lie "about" you being an enabler. I gladly take credit for identifying you are an enabler but there was nothing about my claim that was a lie as I have given example after example proving that fact.
The major problem you have other than your extreme hate for me is the delusion that your opinions are facts.
I nor any poster I have read wants to deny you your opinions they simply want you to to either prove them as fact or stop declaring them as fact to the exclusion of all actual facts.
You are a lot like algore and his global warming worshippers. They take a idea that is far from proven wave it around until they believe it and then expect everyone else to believe it not because of factual evidence but simply because they say it is so. Then to make matters worse they want to disrupt everyone else's life by forcing them to pay for unproven solutions to an unproven problem.
Someday, I keep hoping, you will wake up and see the truth of your arrogantly delusional, self righteous attitude. But those who are satisfied with fantasy over fact seldom will reach for the facts.
Once again cg, you prove yourself an enabler. You enable yourself to live in a state of denial by trying to translate virtually every post into what you want it to mean, not what it really does. I wrote 10:57, and I meant what I said. I told you my problem with you and the simple fact that that is not what you want to hear caused you to change it. Well, it stands as is. You are a lying enabler who refuses to see that much of the fault you find lies within yourself. Stop proving it with every post and perhaps folks won't be so disgusted with you.
Mr. Barrett
You ARE the one who started that lie about my knowingly and willfully going along with things that are wrong. And for you and your supporter, I only mentioned that I am a Christian because you arrogantly demanded proof to the contrary. Christian people would never knowingly go along with wrongdoings. So yes; you did lie. Clear essfocu
Yeah cg, try using that in a court of law sometime. I'm sure they would give it as much weight as it receives on here, dumbass.
7:27
When an individual professes to be a Christian (They were first called Christians at Antioch)and someone like you or Mr. Barrett comes along and tries to discredit him, isn't that called judging? Doesn't Mr. Barrett himself profess the same thing? Would he take offense if people were out there telling a lie on him that he, although a Christian, goes along with wrongdoing? I think so. Think about that if you dare.
7:27
Could you address the questions asked of you?
I don't have any problems or doubts about you being a christian, it's just not proof that you don't enable wrong doing. As I said, try using that as a defense in any court in the land. The best you could hope for is to get off on an insanity plea. You now have your answer, so go ahead and translate it into something you can live with, dumbass.
Saying you are a Christian and acting like one is two different Actions speak louder than words.
Posting digs on the blog is actions.
9:21
Wrong. Posting my views and opinions on a "free speech" blog is both a right and a responsibility. The problem is that those views and opinions do not coincide with yours. And when I ask a troublemaker to stop stirring up strife, that is NOT a dig.
8:26
Wrong. Your arrogant hypocrisy is the problem, not your opinions or lack thereof. The simple fact that you refer to a poster as a "troublemaker" is a dig, dumbass.
9:08 Way to go!
CG keeps the trouble going.
6:39 you are not only a dumbass but a blind dumbass you have called Barrett more names than anyone on this blog. I don't know what Barrett is I never seen him try to hid behind being a Christian like you, but I do know what you are one big dumbass enabling liar.
You prove what a dumbass you are again in your 8:26 comment "Posting my views and opinions on a "free speech" blog is both a right and a responsibility" show how full of crap you are. You have a right to comment on this blog because Barrett gives you the right and he could withdraw that right at any time he chooses because it is his blog. As for responsibility you have it mixed up with privilege. You have the privilege to comment but your responsibility is to make those comments truthful and so far you have failed miserably in that responsibility.
Excellent post, 10:28.
10:28 You can call names and make false statements til the cows come home, but it doesn't change a thing. As I have said on more than one occasion, your trouble with me is that my opinions and views do not go along with yours or with the status quo of this blog. Therein lies the rub. And if Mr. Barrett wants to block me off this blog, that will be ok. But if he did that, what would you do? Laughable.
For starters, we could begin to have intelligent dialogue without your "laughable" attempts to derail every post. All you have to do is read the comments on here to know what everyone's trouble is with you, and it has nothing to do with differing opinions.
9:49 As I have told you before, stop enabling a lie that was told on me and stop calling names, and you won't hear from me again. Ok? I've offered that deal to you before, but I think you want me here. It must give you some sick reason to feel validated. Is that it?
I'll take that deal but how are you going to convince everyone else you've offended to do the same?
6:19 What is your opinion? All I've ever seen is something you can attack Barrett with not what is wrong with what he said. You say it's the way Barrett says or post things. Have to be post since you say you've never talked with him.
Yea!!! CG has crawled back in his cave. Now anyone wanting to have a discussion can. Good time to go for it.
Bet CG comes out of his cave now, Barrett as posted something against Vanzant.
The enabler came out of his cave when something was said about jpv just like you knew she would.
Barrett told some thing on vanzant and got old cg in a steaming.
7:12
Your defense of a most despicable person like Allen Barrett makes me sometimes wonder if you are not him posting anonymously again.
10:49 Can you prove 7:12 was taking up for Barrett? LOL
Every time anyone post something about you, you think it's Barrett or someone for him.
Ever thought some just don't like the way you attack any more than the way he attacks?
8:21
No, I simply continue to ask Mr. Barrett to stop causing hu2rt and trouble in this county. Doesn't he himself admit to being a troublemaker? How can you defend that behavior when he has, in my opinion, hurt so many people. And for WHAT? How has that made our county a better place to live?
5:58 Does two wrongs make a right?
I'm sure when the person doing something wrong and it gets pointed out they get their feelings hurt. Is it best to let the wrong go on if it is costing tax payers money that needs to stop?
If a person is making meth next to you would you just ignore it and let them keep on?
If a person was weaving all over the road would you call the law knowing your child would be coming by him soon or just ignore it?
8:31, for some reason cg goes by what he judges to be degrees of wrongdoing. If one of his candidates tells a "small" lie or only steals a "little" bit, then it's ok. Surely they will stop at that and not do anything really bad. To use one of his favorite words, he is a hypocrite of the highest order.
10:32
And you are a liar of the lowest order. We seem to have different views, don't we?
CG
I am many things,enabler, but a liar is not among them. You think it's alright for coleman to steal if she brings the money back. You think it's ok for an elected official to stand on a public sidewalk and both threaten and verbally and physically abuse a private citizen. I know you're going to say you don't approve, Hughes provoked him. That's bullshit and you well know it. You display your approval by continuing to support these people. So don't call me a liar for telling it like it is. It's just one more comment that makes you look like a fool.
10:37
Yes, you are indeed a liar for saying that I judge by degrees of wrongdoing. That is a lie. Furthermore, you are the enabler of the lie Allen Barrett told in the first place. What about that?
By the way, I am on record right here on this "free speech" blog as saying that Mrs. Coleman should return the money if she is not entitled to it. In addition, I have also gone on record as saying that Mr. Harwell shouldn't have reacted as he did, but I also know how we all as humans can be provoked beyond sound judgment. And I suppose you have never lost your temper and said something you later regretted? Stop lying.
You guys are out to get either Mrs. Coleman or Mr. Harwell, aren't you? Everybody knows who is behind it and why. This war against Allen Barrett's opponents in 7th District is so obvious. It's going to backfire on you big time. Who will you blame for that?
Your post simply reinforced mine, dumbass. You say it's ok for coleman to steal as long as she returns the money. It's still stealing. You take up for harwell because he lost his temper. He's supposed to be a grown man who should be able to control his temper. Even in the face of their childish and dishonest actions, you still support them, thus enabling them. Just more proof that you are what people say you are, enabler. And you do judge by degrees of "wrongness." If harwell had raped someone or coleman had been caught buying dope, you might have a different opinion. Wrong is wrong, however, no matter if it's big or small.
2:10 You guys are stepping up your attacks on the 7th District candidates, and it would be so laughable were it not so pathetic. But it's all by design, isn't it? Why are you not so concerned with the other districts? We both know the answer to that, and we also know who is at the root of this war on his opponents. Why can't you just talk about your candidate's merits instead of trying to malign and destroy the competition?
And why can't you just respond to my post instead of replying to something I never wrote. You are obsessed cg, and it isn't very becoming.
8:47 No, what I am actually doing is shedding light on what you guys are doing. That's what you can't stand about me.
This war on the 7th District commissioner candidates and Mrs. Vanzant is so obvious, and anybody who reads this stuff knows who is at the root of it. It's just sad that an individual feels so threatened that he feels he must resort to such underhandedness. Even worse is the fact that he has people like you out there doing the same low-downed thing.
No, the reason I don't like you is because you never grasp what anyone is trying to tell you. No one minds you having a different opinion. I mind that you are constantly doing the same things you bitch about other people doing. Barrett is a candidate and you spend all of your time on here running him down.
Give a reason or two other than the fact that you don't like the truth being known about your picks.
12:11
No, I have a firm grasp on what you guys are doing; I just disagree with your schemes, and therein lies your problem with me. And it's a lie that I spend my time on here running Mr. Barrett down or attacking him. When I have something to say about that guy, it's almost always in response to something either he or one of his supporters say to me. In fact, I am the one being attacked, called names, and cursed for standing up and defending myself. For example, when Mr. Barrett or one of you guys calls me an enabler of wrong, I respond by calling it a lie. Would you not defend yourself?
Truth? Here's a bit of truth. All of the 7th District commissioner candidates have been consistently attacked and smeared on this blog...all except for Mr. Barrett of course. Can you explain why that is the case?
Do you honestly consider telling the truth about someone attacking and smearing? These are documented facts and the voters have a right to know them. The future of our county is in the hands of our officials. I think it's every person's responsibility to find as much information about them as they can. That is the only way to make a rational decision. I really do feel sorry for you.
10:54 Mr. Barrett...The problem with your "truth" is that I don't believe anything you say. And just because I see things differently doesn't make me one who embraces lies or supports wrong. I think what's wrong is your behavior. And, because of the way you have hurt so many people, my support goes to anybody who runs against you.
I am not Barrett, dumbass. And he posted nothing he did not offer proof of. I have never seen you offer anything to back up your statements, and I have read all the way back in the archives.
The definition of a fool is someone who doesn't believe what he sees with his own eyes, fool. You would be amusing if your mental issues weren't so sad.
7:25 Oh, trust me; I see very clearly what you people are trying to do. And so do a LOT of people. I have encouraged people to come here and see for themselves how the attack on 7th District commissioner candidates has escalated. They see for themselves. But keep up the good work. You folks apparently know very little about human nature.
I hope when they get here they take enough time to peruse some of your comments. Then they will see for themselves that you are only a petty fool with a vendetta.
4:15 Petty fool with a vendetta? Hardly so. If anyone has a vendetta against certain people, I think we both know who it is. Let's be honest here.
I was being honest and my statement stands. All anyone has to do is read the archives, starting at the beginning, to see that the vein of your comments hasn't changed one bit. You could just as easily copy and paste and have the same results. You're either too stupid or too lazy to even change the tone of your posts.
9:22
So was I. And my 6:05 statement stands without apology.
Then you write without thinking. Fully 90% + of your comments are used to run down Barrett or people who are of like mind. The percentage of posts Barrett uses to do the same is much smaller. So tell me; who has the vendetta? It's all recorded on here for anyone with half a brain to see. Although that lets you out, I'm sure there are many who qualify.
11:45
Wrong. I write and stand opposed to you guys because I AM thinking. I clearly see what's going on here. And if you think I am running down Barrett, that is, in all honesty, not my intention. However, his behavior prompts me to speak out against it and to ask him to stop hurting people. THAT is wrong and you and I both know it. Yes, it's all recorded right here for everyone to see. I'm glad it is. And admittedly, he and I have tangled over some issues such as zoning, but isn't it our right to have our own views? And isn't free speech a wonderful thing?
Free speech is indeed a wonderful thing unless you consistently use it to besmirch another. You have something negative to say about Barrett no matter what topic he posts. You, I and everyone on the blog know this to be true. Remain in your state of denial if it helps you to live with yourself.
12:11 Well, is it wrong then for you or for Mr. Barrett to besmirch his opponent, Mrs. Vanzant, or anyone else who happens to disagree with him?
If by besmirching you mean making the truth known about someone running for public office, then yes, I think that is just fine. Haven't you ever heard of the lie of omission? Do you think it better to sweep inappropriate behavior under the rug? Wouldn't that make you an enabler? Lying by omission is a willful act of wrongdoing, is it not?
10:34
And you excuse the misbehavior of Allen Barrett? You can't be serious. I don't know how either of you sleep at night.
Once again, you ignored the point of the post. It's quite a habit you have. What about the lying by omission? Is that ok with God? Does he only consider certain levels of sin or is it all sin? Must be hard for you to keep up with if you don't even know the rules.
And yes, as long as Allen is being truthful, I have no problem with him or anyone else telling what is going on. How can you?
Exactly what "misbehavior" are you referring to? Telling the truth about the candidates or telling the truth about you?
His misbehavior began way before this particular election. And trying to belittle and smear his opponents is making him look bad in the community. I was surprised that more people are aware of this than I had imagined. That proved me wrong that not so many read this mess.
You keep referring to telling the truth about someone as belittling and smearing. Do you in fact, then, believe that lying by omission is not a sin? Telling the truth is doing anything but making him look bad. Honesty is never a trait to be ashamed of, except by you. How can you reconcile your Christianity with saying that lying is alright? You can't have your cake and eat it too.
How does one reconcile his Christianity by calling one an enabler of wrong when it's a lie? That's being judgmental.
You prove it everyday. You also conveniently ignore valid questions when you have no answer to refute them. You have yet to answer my question about the sin of lying by omission. Do you not have an answer? Do you not know enough about the question to answer it? Or are you just afraid you can't answer it without admitting that you are indeed and enabler of wrongdoing? I already know the answer, I just want to hear you say it. Stop changing the subject and answer the question. You seem to want to take the focus off of your willful wrongdoing by pointing at something you think Allen has done. I'm not talking about him, I'm talking about you.
3:24
Your post is a total lie. You guys seem to think you can call people names and accuse them of 1everything under the sun and then expect no rebuttal. Oh, is that your idea of free speech?
And once again, you avoid the question. You've had plenty of time to translate the question into something you could answer. What's wrong, nothing coming to you? I'm waiting for a rebuttal, but you don't seem to have one.
2:48 I did respond by telling you that what you had to say is a lie. Is there something you don't understand about that? The sad thing is that you allow a known troublemaker to influence your thinking. Shame on the both of you.
It's a lie to say that not telling the truth is wrong? Is that really your position? No, you never responded to my question. Is approving a lie by omission supporting wrongdoing? It's a simple question. Why won't you answer it?
10:48 You're nuts. Just describing behavior.
Failing once again to answer, eh enabler? I also am describing behavior. How do you justify running everyone who tells the facts about your buddies? No telling would be a sin and you don't want them to do that, do you?
3:53
I've given you just about all the answers you are going to get from me. I don't owe you guys any explanation for my viewpoints, opinions, or who I support.
And why do you continue to enable and promote the lie Allen Barrett told? You read that correctly; I said he lied when he falsely accused me of something for which I am not a part of. I've offered to stop reminding you if you would stop bringing it up. But you just can't do it. How pathetic.
You mentioned sin and I about had to laugh. Aren't you judging me? I thought you guys were all against that?
No, I'm not judging you. I'm simply asking you a question, which you choose to avoid. Now that you can't think of one, you say you don't have to answer any questions. If that's the case, you really should shut the hell up. By your reasoning, lying by omission isn't a sin and if it is, Allen isn't the one who is supposed to tell the truth. You have yet to prove you are no enabler. You continue, however, to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are one.
9:06
Do you realize how childish you are beginning to look? It's not my fault that you have swallowed the hatred, resentment, and jealousies...hook, line and sinker. You loyally follow and defend a known troublemaker, regardless of his constant belittling of others. That makes you the enabler. Ironic, isn't it? It's funny that you can't see this for yourself.
Why do you insist on dancing around the simple question? You should know a bit about acting childish, as that is how you've been behaving since I asked you the question. You do know that by avoiding and making accusation because of the query, you have answered affirmatively. You KNOW that lying by omission is wrong, yet you support those who do it. If there was ever any doubt about you being an enabler of wrongdoing, this thread has more than removed it. Why don't you ask the "people on the street" that you talk to? Or perhaps your congregation if you aren't too ashamed. I wonder how they feel about you splitting hairs over the Lord's word.
I may indeed be an enabler of some things, but I believe in letting the public know the truth. Why don't you?
9:49 I have already answered your question. Go back and read what I had to say. I'd like to ask you a question. Why do you keep beating a dead horse. Another question. Why are you a part of the troublemaking caused here in the county by an insignificant man who is filled with anger, jealousy, and resentment?
I'll keep asking the question until you stop avoiding it. No where in any of your posts did you explain why you vilify Barrett for informing the citizens about the candidates. You seem to approve of them leaving out details that are pertinent to their bid for election. How is it trouble making to tell the truth about someone? If you condone that, then you are every bit the enabler everyone says you are.
4:58
Go ahead and ask away. It's making you look even more foolish than I imagined you are.
What you see as Barrett's informing, I see as attacking. And LISTEN to me on this. A LOT of people around town see it exactly as I do. Speaking of vilification, I see him as the real villain. The irony of it all is that he tries to make villains of his opponents as well as Mrs. Vanzant when he is, in my opinion, the real snake for doing so.
Yeah, telling the truth about someone is a very serious attack. Honestly now, you can't really believe omitting pertinent facts is appropriate, can you? It's sin cg. Just as much of a sin as any kind of lying is. I gave you the chapter and verse to show you that it isn't what I say, it's what God says. Supporting liars and thieves is just spitting in God's face. Face spitter.
Mr. Barrett.....LOOK, you and I just see things differently, and I am not spitting in God's face for saying that, in my opinion, YOU are trying your best to undermine your opponents in a futile effort to win an election. That's pretty sad.
I support those candidates of my choice, and they surely do not include you. I think you are a snake. Sorry, but you opened the door. And you know what? I firmly believe that you would try to hurt or ruin me in the community if you could. That's even more sad.
To begin with, you should respond to Allen when he post to you. I am not AB. That is just another sign of your paranoia winning the fight. Secondly, lying is lying and you don't seem to have a problem with that as long as it is your buddies who are doing it. I think we should all take up a donation and send your family some flowers to offer our condolences for having to live with you. You are truly a sick individual.
I'm not sure about Allen, but I would certainly shut your mouth for you. It would be a great pleasure to do the community such a service. Malone said to just try and look over you as you have been like this as long as he has known you. He was in Viet Nam too, only he actually had to fight.
2:02 Actually, it seems that all I do on this blog is either respond to Barrett or to you or the other one. there are three of you who seem to be the chief sources of contention and name-calling here.
Sounds like you are threatening me. That is so childish. Isn't that what a bully does? He threatens to beat up anyone who stands opposed to his way of thinking.
I assure you there are more than three of us who feel the same way. I was not threatening you, I was offering to do the community a service. Not because of your differing opinion, however, but because you believe you can get on here and say anything you want to with impunity because you're anonymous. Your name will come out soon and then you can take a shot at explaining yourself. Good luck.
8:44 Oh I'm sire there are maybe a hundred who will vote for Barrett, but what I am talking about is you two guys who constantly try to spin and cause trouble in support of Barrett.
Hey now, I know I'm a great man, but you don't have to call me "sire." What exactly do we try to spin? The truth into more truth? See, if you make your point with facts, there is no need to put a spin on it. That's why you never read where I had to "translate" someone's post so I could answer it.
10:55
Oh, you should have been a comedian.
8:44
Let me tell you something. What I have to say on this blog I would say again and again. I've done nothing wrong here, and your threats are not taken lightly. May I remind you that this is a "free speech" blog (at least in name) and that there is an anonymous provision for those who do not or cannot divulge their identities? That being said, the name of the blog either needs to be changed or the anonymous feature removed if one is not allowed to post his or her opinions and views. Otherwise, there is no free speech!
You have stated before that you do not serve in any official capacity, so why can't you sign your posts? You must be ashamed for people to know who you are if you won't. I'll make you a deal; I,ll show you mine if you show me yours. If you have conviction, you won't mind owning it.
4:16
I am a man of strong conviction, and that is precisely why I come here to stand opposed to what you, Allen Barrett, and the other one are doing. As for who I am, it's none of your business who I am and why I post anonymously. And I frankly could care less who you are.
Damn, you're a real mental case, aren't you? If you're having trouble counting, just ask for help. Get it through your head; there are more than Allen and two others who don't like the way you post. It's arrogant and offensive. There's always an undertone to your words that implies that you are somehow the only one who knows anything. I appreciate that you take time in your posts, it's nice not to have to guess at the words. But seriously, have you noticed that no one agrees with you? Have you noticed how obsessed you have become with the enabler thing? My God man, get a clue. I'm not the smartest person in the world, but I'm smart enough to know I'm not always right.
7:59 Of course very few on this blog would agree with me. That's understandable, because this is mostly a forum for those who think like you do. As for the enabler thing, I have offered on several occasions to never mention it again that Mr. Barrett told that lie if you and your two buddies would stop bringing it up. Stop and I will stop.
I'll tell you what, dumbass; if you stop enabling, I'll stop referring to you as one. As long as you defend the actions of those SHOWN to do wrong, you are an enabler. I don't give a rat's ass who first called you one.
3:18
I have made you, Barrett, and the other one the only deal I am going to offer. You two need to stop enabling the lie Allen Barrett told, and you will never hear me mention it again.
Just because I don't see things ass you three do, I am judged and condemned as one who goes along with wrong. That's a lie. And guess what? A LOT more people see things like I do than you might imagine.
Your colorful language is shameful.
I made my decision as to what I should refer to you as by reading your comments. You enable deceit and wrongdoing so therefore you are an enabler. See how simple that was enabler? Bye enabler.
2:28 And you are lying again. You and the other individual are the true enablers....of troublemaking and one who willfully told a lie. And that same person is too proud and egotistical to admit that he told a low-down lie. Yet, he wants people to "single shot" him. I have never seen a candidate resort to such desperation. What a laugh.
All you have to do is read your comments again. It is you who has created the term "enabler." By your very actions, you have become what you so vehemently deny. Check yourself before you submit your enabling comments and perhaps you can reverse the opinion.
2:51 That's a lie, and you know it. Allen Barrett is the one who started telling the lie that I willfully enable wrongdoings. He even admitted it on another thread. The true e1nablers of that lie are a couple of people who defend him no matter what he says. I think you are one of them.
You DO willfully enable. You do so in virtually every comment you make. You've done it today and I'm sure you will do it tomorrow. I'll be checking on you enabler.
5:11
That's a lie. And you are one of the two enablers of the lie Allen Barrett told.
As I told you on numerous occasions, you two stop promoting the lie Barrett told, and I won't have any further cause to remind you that he LIED.
Check on me; I till be here, the Lord willing, to defend myself and the things I believe in. That's the essence of free speech. Would you agree? Or am I free to speak my mind as long as you three like what I have to say?
You are free to speak your mind whenever you choose. Likewise, I am free to call you an enabler when you take the side of wrongdoers and people of questionable character. It is my decision alone based on the content of the majority of your comments.
9:00
enabler
You are the enabler of a lie Allen Barrett told on me because I do not agree with his views and his so-called "truths". What a joke!
I support and vote for people I believe in, and it's just too bad if you find it intolerable. But, as you say, those I support and vote for is my decision alone.
Absolutely. I don't understand why you question those who refer to you as enabler though. You are consistently earning the right to wear the moniker. I never addressed you by that title until I read all of the posts on here. After doing so, I have no choice. You side yourself with those proven wrong, so what do you think that makes you? Right;enabler.
11:31
You and the other individual are the true enablers of the lie Allen Barrett told. You keep promoting that low-down lie, and I will continue to remind you.
I side myself with those I trust and believe in, and those do NOT include someone like Allen Barrett. I wouldn't trust him out of my sight. I think he has proven with this war on 7th District that he is willing to "go that extra mile" to get a seat on the commission. Well, that's not going to happen.
And you have proven, with every increasingly maniacal post, that you are quickly losing your remaining grip on reality. Please seek help enabler. It's not too late.
9:49 enabler of a lie
You and the other individual are the only enablers I know of. You willfully promote and support a lie Allen Barrett told. When you bring it up again, I will surely remind you that the man told a lie for which he is too proud and arrogant to apologize.
You didn't seem as stupid, in the past, as you appear now. I have told you my reasons for referring to you as I do. It has nothing to do with Barrett or anyone else. It comes straight from the lines of your comments. Supporting people after you know the truth about them IS enabling. If you don't want people calling you an enabler, stop enabling.
8:07 enabler
I finally came to realize that it is pointless and a huge waste of my time to argue back and forth with you, the other one, and Barrett. So I give you a few Bible verses for consideration. Please read Proverbs 6:16-19 and Matthew 7:12. Make the proper application to your own life. More later.
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