Do People Selling Prepared Foods Have Health Department Approval?
This is a topic that has been requested by a reader.
Does the Health Department or any other governmental agency inspect, regulate and sanction the sell of all prepared foods sold in the county and state?
The question arises from the fact that there are a number of sellers of prepared foods, (home canned goods, baked goods, smoked and barbecued meats, cheeses etc.) that would be required to have Health Department inspections were they in a store or restaurant.
Does the Health Department or any other governmental agency inspect, regulate and sanction the sell of all prepared foods sold in the county and state?
The question arises from the fact that there are a number of sellers of prepared foods, (home canned goods, baked goods, smoked and barbecued meats, cheeses etc.) that would be required to have Health Department inspections were they in a store or restaurant.
posted by Allen Barrett | 11:10 AM
113 Comments:
Bet they dont have a health permit. Eat at your own risk?
It depends. Baked goods are supposed to come from an inspected kitchen. Canned goods - not sure if they come under regulations - but I'm always careful w/ other's processed foods. Prepared meats is a non-starter without regulatory approval. Raw dairy is illegal.
Them's are the laws ... and then there's common sense. Frankly, I'm a lot more worried about eating frozen pizzas & cocoa puffs than I am buying unprocessed milk/cheese. USDA-approval doesn't mean squat to me ... I'd rather know who prepared any food I'm purchasing. There's a huge movement toward buying local food ... and it's good for our local ag economy as well.
Anything prepared and sold for consumption comes under the health inspector. a lot operate without health permits. A lot of churches who have spaghetti suppers, pancake breakfasts, and regularly hold such type fundraisers are supposed to have health permits on their kitchens, but this is not enforced in this area for some reason.
What about fish fries where people carry in desserts to be sold?
What does it even matter? The real restaurants in this county are not inspected regularly. Here is a link for the scores for pulaski food establishments http://goo.gl/lOy2GT These have not been updated since late 2013 Is the inspector too lazy to enter the grades, or too lazy to do inspections?
Look at places that have a low routine score, then a followup that is higher, but the next routine inspection is low again. This means filth is a bad habit.
Either the county employee is getting paid off to have a blind eye, or nobody is paying attention that someone is not doing his job. That is enough to make me sick. I will eat at home.
Eat at home.
CG @ 6:21
As many people do. However, that is not the issue but the question was asked if those who sell BBQ, etc on the street or at a fund raising function have a health permit to sell? Unfortunately, I've been in some nasty homeowner kitchens over the years, add to that bad handling habits its no wonder people get gut ailments.
So y'all really believe a government bureaucrat, armed with a pen & a USDA checklist, fining those without appropriate permits, is our best means of providing healthy food? Yes, I've been in some dirty kitchens too ... but have you ever been in a USDA-approved chicken processing facility? Any idea of the fecal content in that Tyson chicken? USDA approval is a joke ... they're in business to put small guys OUT of business & to protect the interests of big-time producers.
I know I'm not addressing the question head-on, primarily because I don't think it's the right question. The best means to ensure safe food is to grow, harvest, & make it yourself. Next best is to purchase it from someone you know/trust. As for me, that ain't the government bureaucrat. Stupid laws aside, wouldn't you rather take bacon, a dozen eggs, and a quart of fresh milk from a reputable neighbor w/ a smokehouse over "Great Value" fare in the supermarket?
8:28 Yes it would be better to grow and harvet yourself. Even then if you grow organic some unhealthy things slip by whether it be veggies or meats, but most times for the majority of folks that is impossible. Believe the question is: do the people who cook BBQ, etc and sell to the public have a health permit and is it required?
Of course there is no way to insure perfection in food sources but there are attempts being made to cut down on the possible contaminations. An inspection is only as good as the inspector but if there isn't even an inspector there is no no quality control other than what is provided by the producer. Why is a restaurant or store required to be inspected by the state but those who regularly take orders for such things as cooked meats be allowed to operate without the inspections and in violation of state law? Certainly a church pot luck meal is a lot different from preparing meals to be sold for public consumption. I know that most larger churches with a kitchen that serves meals to the public is inspected.
The issue is, I believe, why should a person who opens a hot dog stand on the corner or sells chicken fingers in their store be required to meet certain sanitary conditions while a person who cooks Bar-B-Cue at home and delivers it to some organization not have to meet those same sanitary conditions?
10:41 I'll add to your post. It is my understanding that if say, a church or other organization that has passed health inspection, holds a fundraiser or whatever, they can only sell "in house" and not to the general public at large.
I agree with 8:28. Is the goal of the FDA to protect the citizens or is it to control small farmers and to continue collusion with Monsanto and other cronies in the big ag business.
Supporting local farming/ranching/food processing endeavors would help the local economy. In times of peril, it could mean the difference in famine or feast. And, the quality and freshness would be incomparable. Google the story, "Maine Town Declares Food Sovereignty"- food for thought!
Grow your own damn food and cook it. It is what smart, country folks have been doing for years. Probably not the best county to complain about this. Drive around and look at how many people have gardens. If you don't want Bubba's BBQ, don't stop and eat it.
Still ignores the thread topic of should "Bubba" be allowed to sell his BBQ without having a health dept permit? Also, in addition to Bubba's kitchen being inspected, shouldn't Bubba have a Food Handler's permit?
Come on CG, you probably know the answers to these concerns.
This is my first post on this thread. My but you are obsessed with me. Frightening.
CG
I know you just pulled "Bubba's" out of a hat for your analogy, but all else aside, they are great. Not only do they have all their permits, but they keep their establishment clean enough to eat off of the floor if you were so inclined. Unfortunately, that is not the case with many eatery's hygiene. I have done electrical work at most restaurants around the county and atrocious does not begin to describe some of them. It certainly shortened my list of places to grab a meal. Some of these places can NOT be getting inspected or else the inspector is on the take. Careful where you eat.
cg No one is obsessed with you but you always seem to be "in the know" so I was just asking what your views are on this subject. Since you don't respond to the question of the thread it makes me wonder if you sell BBQ or whatever at functions around town.
8:54
What I do, personally or otherwise, is none of your business.
9:28 I wonder how many things you have asked about is none of your business. You and you alone have made people wonder about you.
9:54
You REALLY need a job or a hobby. I'm not sure I've ever encountered a more bitter person than you. Do you even know why? I could give you the answer to your mental anguish, but I think you would only scoff.
OK folks listen up!!!!!!!
What the CG does is none of our business ... so do not try to get him to respond to your questions.
However, the CG makes it his goal in life to know everything about everyone and dictate the right and wrong regarding their actions. He is omnipotent in that regard.
CG sounds like a spoiled brat to me and he really needs a job or hobby.
Oh, he has a hobby, this blog. lol
'Me thinks' cg does indeed sell BBQ or some such at local functions because he avoided a simple comment and refuses to get in on the discussion of the thread. If that is the case, it narrows the field down as to cg's identity. Let's put our thinking caps on folks, and I don't believe it is Terry Harwell.
Some one asked Barrett to start this thread, why does someone have such a vendetta against Barrett they want to change it?
I thought all places that sold food had to be inspected. There should be a grade on the wall for you to see what grade they got. When we go to a place to eat, we can't go in and check out the kitchen before eating. I've been to places where the dinning area wasn't clean, so got up and walked out.
At church dinners and family reunions, I'm picky at who's food I ate. I have a good friend, that's house is clean, but when she is cooking I have seen her take a spoon taste something, then after adding something use this same spoon to dip back in the food for another taste. Sorry I can't handle that.
Who owns Bubba's
7:39/7:59/8:31
Like I said, you really need a job or some hobby other than drama.
My goal in life? That's also none of your business. but you can be assured that it is not to cause trouble and to purposely try to hurt others.
And no, I don't sell barbecue. Why is that any of your business as well?
The bitterness is going to consume you, and I would think you at least owe it to yourself to consider its source.
1003 The three postings you referred to are NOT the same poster.
9:24 Good for you! I have a friend who otherwise runs a clean house but the cats are allowed to jump around on the kitchen counters.
10:25 That really makes you not to want anything cooked at that house.
I have always trusted restaurants and fast food that have been inspected, but I will not send food back to be redone. I just want eat it and not go back. I'm not a very trusting person and afraid of what they might do if returned. Have heard a few stories which could of been told in fun and not true, but so easy to put DOUBT in anyone's mind
Looks like Barrett has been raising hell at another meeting. Saw where he was wrong about Terry Harwell voting at a budget meeting.
Pertaining to the thread, Barrett is the kinda guy that gets his food spit on by everyone in the kitchen because he would probably send it back 3 times to get it just right.
I remember how much fun it was to mess with peoples food when they sent it back more than once.
7:44 More than once? lol I bet first time.
I know this isn't the thread for this post, but a lot of other post shouldn't be here either.
I just read WKSR on the net.
I thought the commissioners had already voted for a wheel tax. Is that not right?
What are they waiting for, after the election?
The hospital fund is gone, wheel and property tax are going to have to be. Then next year they will have to go up because everything else is going to still be going up.
I don't know what people are going to do. I'm to old to ride a bicycle. Might be good for us.
To 7:44. Mr. Barrett was not wrong. The Tennessee code book that the commissioners go by states that if a person is already a commissioner and takes a job in the financial office he can not vote on things pertaining to money. If he is working in the financial office and then is elected to office as a commissioner he then is eligiable to vote on money matters. Know your facts before you start bashing some one.
Mary
Do you know anything about Mr. Barrett having an outburst at a recent meeting? I just read that in an above post?
Oh, I'm s1ure you are right that he was not wrong. He never is. It's always someone else.
You finally told the truth in a post. You should be proud of yourself cg.
7:44 What a wonderful revelation, you seem so proud of being such a cowardly little parasite to brag about intentionally contaminating someone's food. It's obvious that you never considered credibility, integrity, honesty good moral character have never been very important to you. Let me make it clear for you, you are anyone else who would intentionally contaminate another person's food or drink is beneath contemptible.
Now as to the matter of my so called "outburst" at the Budget Committee. I simply raised my hand and the chairman Commissioner Greene recognized me to speak at which time I stated that I wanted to lodge a protest against Commissioner Harwell, who was sitting in for the missing Commissioner Coleman, voting on budgetary items in violation of state law. Commissioner Harwell then without being recognized angrily stated that he couldn't vote on the budget in the full commission but could in committees. This is all viewable on the video recording of the meeting. Commissioner Harwell was allowed to continue his illegal activity.
I placed the following comment on the WKSR website, "The only thing that one needs to do is simply read Tennessee Code Annotated 12-4-101 and the Tennessee Attorney General opinion No. 09-175 to know and understand that Commissioner Harwell is not authorized to vote on any budgetary items but even if re-elected will not be authorized to vote on budgetary items therefore the 7th district will remain under represented.
The problem is that the County Executive has not, to date, required her hand picked commissioner Mr. Harwell to be controlled by the laws of Tennessee".
This is not the first time this issue has arisen nor will it be the last as long as the County Executive continues to flaunt special treatment and violations of the law. Giles County deserves better.
Looks like Commissioner Harwell has shown more of his outburst. Needs a little angry management.
I'm sure cg thinks it's alright for Commissioner Harwell to speak out like that.
6:44 Up early spewing your hate. Oh it's alright for you to, CG, but no one else can. CG you keep people laughing.
Do any of you truly expect the CG to make the effort to look for and then read any provision within the TCA??? much less a State Attorney's Opinion regarding the voting privileges of an elected County Commissioner?
Not in this lifetime. CG knows more than anyone and his opinion trumps everyone else; including the law of the State of Tennessee.
When you are Omnipotent, such as the CG, you do not answer to anyone; much less the law. It is easier to invent reality to whatever degree suits your desire.
Come on CG be a man for once and admit that you were wrong.
I don't understand why so many people even bother paying any attention to CG. Just ignore his rambling comments and sooner or later he'll just go away. By addressing his nonsense it just give him encouragement.
The problem is if cg isn't revealed as the liar he is people begin to believe his propaganda of lies he's the Joseph Goebbels of his time.
I must agree with Dick. If no one responds to cg his posts will be like passing gas in a tornado. That's pretty insignificant. If the other two of you ( I just had to get one more in ) will stop, so will I.
I've been thinking if cg would ignore others they would stop. But he can't do that. Loves the drama to much. I don't think the people dislike Mrs. Vanzant as much as they do cg and post things to upset him.
But he is going to make them mad at Mrs. Vanzant. Who wants to vote for someone that is friends with cg.
The laws of the State of Tennessee are referred to as Tennessee Code Annotated (T.C.A.)which can be found at the following link provided by the Tennessee.gov website:
http://www.lexisnexis.com/hottopics/tncode/
Sale of foods prepared in "home-based kitchens" is regulated per T.C.A. 53-8-117.
After reviewing regulations given in T.C.A., Title 53, Chapter 8, the only shortfalls I've ever seen at these road side sales or benefit functions in meeting these regulations would be the product labeling requirement per TCA 53-8-117(d), and/or the home-based kitchen food preparation placard requirement per TCA 53-8-117(c).
So, in answer to your question Mr. Barrett - yes they do, in accordance with stipulations of Tennessee Code Annotated, Title 53, Chapter 8.
That is not true 12:58. If the home based business regularly prepares food for sale then they must have a health certified kitchen. Three bin sinks, separate mop sinks, regulated temperatures for storage and cooling of refrigerated products. If the home based business advertises, or any entity advertises the sale for consumption of prepared food they must be certified by the health department. This is what the health inspector, Keith Henshaw told me. But in Giles County it is enforced on some and not on others.
I want to know what brought up this topic? Is there someone in particular?
4:05 Are you like me want to be sure you don't eat their food if not inspected or are you cg wanting to throw a rock at WAB?
Someone asked for the thread as WAB stated.
At the highway committee meeting, they did vote on a wheel tax in the committee meeting but that doesn't mean it will pass at the full commission where every one votes on it. It has to pass committee before it can go to full County Court.
10:24 Thanks, I had been wondering when it would start. Bet it's not voted on by full commissioners until after the election.
I heard Tommy Beech suggested a $75.00 wheel tax. I hope his district votes him out. That is way to much.
Have to give those employee raises.
Commissioner Pope is also in favor of the Wheel Tax. I wonder if he would be so in favor of it if he were charged for all his commercial vehicles at a much higher rate. Let's add an amendment to the proposed wheel tax which requires all commercial vehicles be charged in the $500 or more range. After all, his dump truck and trailers do a lot more damage to any of the roads than my car. Seems a small price to pay Tommy for the privilege of using the county roads for your business.
I agree 2:16. Just look at any road where larger vehicles travel regularly and note the difference in the condition. I believe Pope would think a bit differently if he had to pony up what he should.
Look at the work those larger vehicles do for the county. Also look at the amount of taxes paid by businessmen. You might change your mind about him paying a higher rate if you were in his shoes.
Look at the amount of taxes paid by the citizens. The taxes paid by the businessman come from the revenue generated by the customer. Commercial vehicles need to pay a substantially higher Wheel Tax if it is voted in. Do you actually think it's fair for a dump truck which generates revenue to pay the same tax as a personal vehicle. I think not. If I were in his shoes as you suggest, I would think twice about his Wheel Tax push because his days will be numbered as a Commissioner. People don't want it. Period. If there is some hidden agenda for his favoring of a Wheel Tax to generate revenue for the Highway Department then it will be exposed. I'm not sure how much work he does with his dumptruck for the county but there seems to be a conflict of interest.
CG, are you happy, more Commissioners are being talked about than your 7th District ones. laughable
CG thinks he doesn't have to follow the same advice he gives everyone else. It's a case of do as I say, not as I do.
You are an idiot, 12:13. I wasn't talking about doing work for the county. I was talking about the work for the citizens in the county. Also, your logic about a wheel tax is so elementary and ridiculous you aren't worth the time it would take to explain why one is needed. Enjoy those potholes, dumbass.
And just where do you think those potholes come from, dumbass 6:26? And 10:38, of course I would change my mind about paying higher taxes if I were in pope's shoes. That's a ridiculous statement to begin with. Do you actually think he would go along with higher tax rates for commercial vehicles knowing he would have to pay? Dumbass.
For all those who want a wheel tax I would suggest that you go to the County Executive or to the Financial Management office a make a donation. I'm sure they will be very happy to take all you give. Then after you have made your donation call your friends and family and tell them to make a donation and then leave me the hell alone.
I agree completely, 10:59. Let the commissioners who are always in favour of more taxes kick in a little. When have you ever known a county that, once implemented a wheel tax, not find an excuse to raise it at some point?
Ray
Let the government take care of you rather than you help the citizens, right Ray?
10:59, I am sure you are such a miserable person that most want to leave you alone.
Don't know who wants to be left alone, but wonder if 6:36 is a miserable commissioner.
Would you please try to explain that comment, 8:37?
6:36, are you some little girl who is stalking me? I pay taxes just like everyone else so your opinion of me is like a fart in a thunderstorm. Look me up if you have any questions and I'll be glad to send you to the ER. Just think of the interesting story you'll be able to tell your friends at the institution. FYI, I'm typing this really slowly so you will be able to read it. You're welcome.
Ray
9:24 I've been reading over and over the post trying to figure out what you can't understand for you.
Starts with: then leave me the hell alone.
Thursday, May 22, 2014 10:59:00 PM
Then:
10:59, I am sure you are such a miserable person that most want to leave you alone.
Friday, May 23, 2014 6:36:00 PM
Then: 8:37's post.
Why is that so hard for you to understand. Looks to me like 8:37 thinks 6:36 is a miserable commissioner.
Looks to me like you been smoking a little too much of that wacky weed, 8:41.
3:13 You are the one sounds like been smoking weed with a little Jack Daniel thrown in.
Please write a coherent sentence, 6:46.
Is that cg showing his rear end today with some of these post or an angry commissioner?
Who ever it is must be drinking more than Vanzant Kool-aid.
No, Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:42:00 PM, that is incorrect as is Keith Henshaw if you asked him the question that WAB raised and included his qualifier that he adds to the question. The fact that is that these operations do not meet the definition of a "Food service establishment" or a "Retail food store".
Among the entire Code you need to pay particular attention to TCA 53-8-203 "Part definitions" Paragraphs (3) through (7); and,
53-8-117 "Sale of foods prepared in home-based kitchens" (3)(e).
And further, read TCA 53-8-203. Part definitions" Paragraphs (8)(A-B),(9)(A-H), and (13)(A-B).
Regardless, please read TCA 53-8-113, "Inspections".
Read the regulations, they are not very hard to understand and they are written in English.
Refer to TCA Title 53 which can found at:
http://www.lexisnexis.com/hottopics/tncode/
I have read the laws, however, the one responsible for the enforcement, Health inspector Keith Henshaw told me he had to enforce the laws the way they are trained.
The law states one can cater and prepare food from a home kitchen, with out a permit, as long as there is no significant market impact. However Mr. Henshaw informed me they are trained to enforce the health requirements if one advertises. I have watched as Mr. Henhaw has allowed others to advertise, prepare and distribute food without enforcement of health requirements.
The fact is it does not matter what the law states here in Giles County because you have arbitrary enforcement of those laws.
12:27 Was this comment meant to show you are an asshole?
"Read the regulations, they are not very hard to understand and they are written in English."
Seems like it.
More filthy language for the sake of journalism? Incredible.
No dumbass, for the sake of a description. It is in English, it is easy to read.
Mr. Barrett...What about it? Do you still condone filthy language on this blog?
Poor cg, still making cracks at Barrett.
11:02 But he thinks no one else should make a crack about anyone unless it about Barrett. He thinks do as I say not as I do.
11:02/1138
What you said is simply not true. I am asking ALLEN BARRETT (not you) about the filthy language on this blog. If you call that making a crack at Barrett, then so be it.
You are not just a dumbass you are a bitter mean person who has no problem lying or anythin else to get your way. Just look at the way you asked the question,
"Mr. Barrett...What about it? Do you still condone filthy language on this blog?" Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:02:00 AM
How different is that from asking someone if they still beat their wife? You stupid jerk even I can see that there is no way to answer that without putting yourself in a bad light.
From what I have read Barrett has never condoned fiflty language and as far as I can tell the only fifty language that has been put on here was removed.
You're just a miserable little coward that doesn't have a honest or fair bone in their body. You make me sick with your hateful attempts to trap someone so you can attack, attack, attack.
7:55 Way to go. lol
Which would you rather have, filthy language used in this blog or home base kitchen foods offered for sale to the public?
7:55
Let me say it again. My question was to Allen Barrett and not to you. But, in his defense I will have to admit that he did delete some filth in a recent post when someone, in a very derogatory way, referred to him as a homosexual. That post was quickly deleted. Don't you find it hypocritical that posts were never deleted wherein people were called names I'll not repeat here? And, as recent as yesterday, there was some pure filth on here, so don't say it's removed. I just want him to answer the question. It really looks bad on his part to allow such stuff.
I'm a miserable person? What a hoot you are. I'm happy and blessed.
Has anyone heard how the teachers and personnel were moved around and transferred without their knowledge or the knowledge of the pricipals? They received certified letters in the mail stating they had been moved for reasons no one knows except Cindy Young and Tim Webb. The county shcool board made a terrible mistake. Now the entire community is going to suffer. Come on public, speak out and attend the board meetings. The school system is being flushed down the toilet.
I do not read the blog on a minute by minute basis as you seem to do 6:36 but I try to delete any and all "filthy" language. I do not attempt to censor comments based on mildly offensive language as I do not have the capability to only remove individual words.
Please understand that what you or I may find offensive is not necessarily "filthy" language. If the Supreme Court can not define what is "FILTHY" why would you expect me to be able to unless you really have a much higher opinion of my abilities than you have expressed thus far.
As for your accusatory question i believe that the Tuesday 7:55 poster provided as clear and appropriate response as could I so I will leave you with that response.
I think some of you have forgot that Mr. Barrett started this blog and he can end it just as quick. I don't know why he hasn't before now. You say what you want to about him but he TELLS THE TRUTH. Some of you do not want to hear that when it comes to certain people but I know first hand its true because I have seen with my own eyes. Everyone is always saying gets your facts straight Barrett, but I have news for you, he has his facts straight, it's you people that are wrong. Shut her down Mr. Barrett and the hospital couldn't hold all the people if they couldn't get on here every day and comdem you.
Barrett.....But don't you claim to be a "man of God"? If you still make that claim, then you would join any Christian and say YES...there is in fact some filthy language here on this blog that is not deleted. I don't call it mild when people are allowed to call those who disagree with them such names as bastards and a...holes. Do you?
I won't even address one of your chief apologists (Mary) who needs to get her facts straight. She seems so full of that same old resentment and jealousy.
Enabler,
Do you write the many publishers of the Bible and gripe and whine to them about the filthy language present in it. Do you complain to God about the filthy language he created in man.
Besides you are the only one who chooses to label descriptive language as filthy. And the fact is you are an asshole. Every one knows it.
And why would you repeat such language you deem filthy being such a self proclaimed "Christian"? Again your hypocrisy shines through. Do as you say not as you do.
But your motive is clear. You rose with the goal to attack Barrett this morning. Is there a thread you did not attack Barrett on this morning?
5:33, I believe the 7:19 poster put it well enough that, without their permission, I will adopt their comment as my response to you.
I'm sure that dumbass cg believed the Smothers Brothers weren't fit for television. You just can't please some people; he has made that clear. As far back as the archives go, he has done nothing but bitch and gripe, mostly about Barrett. I wish he would learn some other songs.
Barrett...Do you use language like that in church? Your buddy just called me a name that I wouldn't repeat, and you say you have no problem with it? I also noticed that your buddy at 7:19 is promoting that lie you told on me sometime back. Remember? You told a bald-faced lie when you accused me of willfully going along with wrongdoings. If anybody is the enabler, it's 7:19 who is promoting that lie.
And for 7:19,
7:19 I got up this morning with no intention of attacking anyone. But I will admit that I responded to some of the low-life comments I found on here from last night or yesterday. Ok?
You people seem to think you can call names, and belittle people with no expectation that anyone would challenge it.
Let me tell you 5:33, I have my facts straight. You condemn anyone who disagrees with you and you have no idea what you are talking about. You only wish your views were right. Remember one thing, a bit dog always hollows first. At least I have the guts to sign my name and that's more than I can say of you. I hAVE NO REASON TO HAVE RESENTMENT OR JEALOUSLY BECAUSE WHAT I POST IS THE FACTS JACK.
Mary
You need to calm down. Your statement that I condemn anyone who disagrees with me is false. I am all for free speech and for the sharing of differing opinions and views, BUT I do not favor name-calling and attempts by those few "bit dogs" in this county who insist on causing those they resent as much trouble as they possibly can. And therein lies the problem people like you have with me. I have the audacity to come here and point it out and ask that it stop. That's the sticking point you guys just never figured on. But why should those bit dogs be allowed to come here and trash those they resent and expect nobody to offer rebuttal? Could you explain to me how that would be anything close to free speech?
9:17 You are an enabler, your support of Tee Jackson helped enable him to destroy the school system and break the bank, your support of Loretta Garner enabled her to finish off the hospital fund, your support of Dan Speer and David Rackley help enable them to spend taxpayer money on stupid lawsuits and other unnecessary things that have helped drive up utilities and taxes, your support of Janet Vanzant help enable her to continue her do nothing administration, your support of Terry Harwell has helped enable him to continue his arrogant "I'm a commissioner what you gonna do about it faggot" attitude. Mr. Barrett and everyone else that calls you an enabler is calling it right.
What's wrong cg? No comment about the Smothers Brothers? I bet if AB had posted the comment you would have something to say. Dumbass hypocrite you are.
9:09
That's a lie. Your problem with me is that I don't support people like Allen Barrett and others whom I feel would be a detriment to our county. That being said, people like me are ridiculed, called names, and falsely accused when our views differ from the thinking on this blog. What makes you folks think you have a right to do that and not expect rebuttal? By the way, need I remind you that the term "enabler" is the lie none other than Allen Barrett told on me because he didn't like my opinions and views. You see, it's like this. If one doesn't see things as he does, he gets angry and loves to call people names. And you would vote for and/or support someone like that? I won't. I would think a "man of God" would have better things to do than to be running around calling people names and stirring up trouble. I still believe soul-winning for Christ is much more important. Would you at least agree with me on that?
I won't even go back over my views about people like Mr. Jackson and Mr. Speer, and I have already told you what I thought about words spoken in anger. But you just can't seem to let those things go, can you?
If anyone is an enabler of the lie Mr. Barrett told, it's got to be you.
As I read the blog, I wonder how many of these people posting might have the starting of Alzheimer.
Angry is one of the first signs.
6:04 I think 7:56 may be on to something as far as you are involved because with your lack of clear memory you very well may be suffering from advanced Alzheimer's.
If I was you I wouldn't want anyone remembering that I fully supported Jackson, Speer, Garner, Vanzant and Harwell either, especially when the evidence was so clear against them.
Once again I will remind you that no one can tell a lie "on" you and from the evidence Barrett has presented there was no lie told about you.
No one criticizes you because you have different views that's what creates debate and progress. What people criticize you about is your hypocrisy, intolerance, and arrogant attitude that your opinions are facts while everyone else's facts are only opinions. I have read on here where Barrett posted a Tennessee Code word for word yet you dismissed it as something you were not aware of. Dismissing the video of Terry Harwell and his wife attacking Bob Hughes, even the one of the police telling her she needed to change her story because it didn't match the video, because those videos didn't fit your mindset.
Oh, about this "Man of God" comment and "soul winning". I believe you serve God more with the truth than your opinionated arrogance but the fact is that God is still in the position of judge isn't He, so why do you keep trying to take over His responsibilities? Should Barrett and everyone else answer to God or to you and your cultish bunch of religious bigots.
Great post, Charlie G.. I am of the same opinion, but I fear you have wasted your time as cg is not prone to rational thought.
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Regardless, my support goes to Mr. Harwell and to Mrs. Vanzant. You may not know this, but this blog has won both of those two individuals a lot of votes. You may call it hearsay if you please, but the fact remains that it's true.
As for judging others, thank God I'm not the judge. But when one goes about calling himself a man of God and then doing things he should know are not getting the Lord's approval, I simply question it. I wonder about the hypocrisy and arrogance. That's only natural. And soul-winning is a term I hold near and dear to my heart. But wouldn't you agree that time could be better spent in that effort than in calling names, stirring up trouble, and the like?
I've heard WAB is/was a preacher, but haven't seen it posted on the blog by him. But don't you claim to be a Christian on the blog? You stir up as much trouble as WAB does.
You have been told the blog would die if you ignored it. Then what would you read and post too.
Soul-winning is not a term when you hyphenate, it's an adjective. Damn cg, you really need to stop using tools you're not familiar with. It makes you look...foolish? Yeah, that's a good word for you. Foolish.
CG will never win any souls for the Lord posting on the blog, the devil maybe.
7:43 sounds like you would have a lot of problems with Jesus and them disciples and a really big problem with ole Paul cause they stirred up trouble and caused problems everywhere they went if you don't believe me just read the Bible and how those in power acted when they was confronted by the truth. You know CG actually sounds like one of them Pharisees.
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There's a huge diffe1rence between what the Apostle Paul did and what a few unhappy and quarrelsome people are doing here in Giles County. Paul was totally justified in stirring up trouble for the Lord. I can't say that about you guys.
Then you're not only judging, you are waiting almost 2 weeks to do it. Make trouble much, dumbass?
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Paul was totally justified in stirring up trouble for the Lord Jesus Christ. I can't say the same for you guys. How is that judging? And please don't say all the attacking and smearing is the Lord's work. It's not.
It seems to me that trouble is trouble and that doing it to set things right is no different than doing it for the Lord. Isn't doing the right thing pleasing to the Lord? Paul was seen as a trouble maker because he was upsetting their gravy train the same way some are doing here in the county. The well established Pharisees were the actual trouble makers just as the well established modern day Pharisees are.
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And isn't the Greatest Command to love one another? I believe that's the right thing to do.
It's judging, dickweed, because it is not up to you to say what is justified. Go ahead and add dumbass to you moniker of enabler.
6:40 Do you love Allen Barrett?
You know the shoe can fit both of you.
10:48 The Bible teaches us to love the person, but that does NOT mean that we love his or her behavior. In short, we are to love the sinner but not the sin. The same thing applies to my regard for someone like Allen Barrett. I despise his behavior.
Does the Bible say anything about getting on the blog and getting as many digs at Barrett as you do, cg?
All those digs sound like hate.
Don't worry, I'm sure the child groper can find a passage to translate so that he can say he is right once again.
Oh by the way, I'm not accusing you of liking little children, that's just what I heard. I have no opinion one way or another.
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