School Board Meets Monday 20 April 2015
The Giles County Board of Education has announced that they will hold a called meeting on Monday 20 April 2015 at 5PM at the Central Office Building.
It is reported that after this meeting the Board plans to have interviews with the three remaining applicants for the job of School Director.
Those to be interviewed are Dr. Tammy Sheldon of Fayetteville, Mr. Phillip Wright of Columbia and Mr. John Bush of Lewisburg.
The public has been asked if they have questions to be considered for these interviews to submit them to the Chairman at dwilliamson@gcboe.us.
This meeting will be open to the public.
posted by Allen Barrett | 3:27 PM
258 Comments:
Members of the community have requested through the board and Williamson to move the meeting to a larger venue but has had no response. Oh yes the public will attend alright!
I cannot believe how this school board has acted. Embarrassed to even be in the same presence of them. I even go to church with one. Very disappointing.
Why dont you move to another county and stop embarrassing us who dont agree with your crap posts?
So I guess exposing Racism, bias and corruption is crap posts.
You are anonymous! And those behind their " blue letters and so forth" will be looking for another job because it won't be in this school system. Deadline may be coming up to pick director but far from over from the "process". When people present themselves in public as you and others did at a public function and some represent our school board, now that is embarrassment. You clearly made obvious who the "No one's or nobodies whatever you all call yourselves are. What an example you set for your children and grand kids. Trust me I have lived here and lived a long time, karma does happen. Do not wish it on you or anyone but when it does you will think twice. And the most interesting part of it all, some of the people that you despise right now would probably help you if you are ever in need. Never say never. My dad was in a nursing home a long time, and people with money or not, black or white, you never know who you will need in those times! But we all have to learn ,but some have to learn the hard way.
Sounds like the Christian Gentleman telling people to move.
If anyone is embarrassing the ones that agree with the board sounds like the board did something to be embarrassed about.
Yes...and about crap posts. People have downed a degraded and judged. Do some even know who their children are dating? Or how many parents, teachers have to deal with abortions because of shame of a black baby. It does and is happening. Now that could be interesting posts. Never say never!, some have had their babies and proud of them. Guess it could have been a person eating or shooting up drugs three times a day. But no one should never say never, because for some it will happen no matter if you move out of this county or now! Karma works in mysterious ways.
And the Fire Marshall will close the doors once 60 folks have shown up and not let anyone else in.
6:07. Thanks for the update. But I am sure many others will be outside. Board has done this to themselves. I know Williamson personally and he is about to crack. He cannot and will not be able to take the future pressures. I no longer have any respect for him.
https://youtu.be/10mBjmoMAHY
Want to see embarrassment go to that link.
7:36 I noticed he jumped up to leave then looked back like he was wondering if the chair was coming after him.
Was sad wasn't it? I mean bad enough they met on the side elsewhere but on film to hide behind a curtain. When I saw it on you tube i said. now that needs to be on bloopers most funniest videos.
There is to be a short special called meeting before the interviews. The interviews are not a meeting they are a work session because decisions are not made. The reason for the called meeting seems to be a secret.
I am aware of policy. Too bad the board is not. I have a string feeling of why and good ole small town cannot keep too well of secrets. Being how the board has treated community whether they wanted JB or not, it is just wrong. But yes a special meeting they called for a special decision and it will be an extra special meeting for board. No doubt their lovely attorney will be there to continue to lead them in wrong direction. Have a feeling they will all be needing lawyers before long. All of them too busy worrying about Smith's mistakes and sins, but one especially may want to get his divorce attorney when his dirty ones come out. People so busy hurting other families but they seemed to have forgotten about their stuff that can hurt theirs. All a shame but true. A resignation would be wise for them, but too busy wanting Smith out. You know the old saying and have seen it happen for 70 years here. It will be worse before better I am afraid.
Agree with you 2:29. Always think about your own faults before you point out others.
The End!
Well then some will just have to greet people on the way out, won't they?
Far from it!
Honestly what kind of person are you trying to break up a family? I haven't heard the board say anything about Mr. Smith's sins or wrong doings that didn't pertain to his work as interim director. You should be deeply ashamed pointing fingers at someone else's marriage.
You haven't been listening!
No one is trying to break up anyone's marriage. They are doing that on their own. People have been cruel. And if you think the anonymous letters, etc are not cruel, well then you are just like them.
You have not been listening as one said above. It is a shame. People have pointed fingers.Putting flyers in drive ways. People honestly think they are not known.
Others just showed support for someone that they felt is good for this county. That is their right and they are not anonymous. If others were against, so be it, at least they voiced it honestly face to face. Others are cowards. Hiding behind the scene.
So if you want to say shame on someone, you may want to look a different place. This blog you cannot stop people voicing their opinions. Others on here have abused all. Smith, Holt and more. But apparently you have not attended some meetings and was there after the fact. You would have found it interesting.
Some have left their names on this blog which I respect fully. At least they stand up to people.
So my opinion is if someone's marriage gets destroyed, it is only because of that person, not anyone else. If you do not have anything to hide, well then one should not be worried, should they?
https://youtu.be/10mBjmoMAHY
When are black folks going to stop using racism as an excuse for not being qualified to get a job? It's 2015, drop it, black folks. Black or white, if someone was sleeping with my wife I would probably hold a bit of a grudge. I doubt they would be around to try and get any job.
As soon as the KKK stops having their gatherings and putting flyers out! It is 2015! So why should it be different for "black folks"?
I guess you are ok beating the hell out of your wife? Ask his second one also? Ask all the teachers what he has done to some of them. I wish we were all brave enough to come forward and who knows, I may convince some of them. An evil person. Sure he can hold his grudge, but he has had his little "color" in the past. Don't let him fool you. Work with him for years. Was not pleasant!
Lived here all of my life and for the first time ever I am honestly ashamed of some that I have known all of my life. It hurts my soul.
so what happened tonight? does anybody know?
Attended the School Board Meeting last night as the three remaining candidates for Schools Director were questioned.
I was impressed with the questions that were selected, a list of fifty questions had been compiled from those submitted by the public and those of board members.
While I was impressed with the questions the presentation of those questions was rather disappointing. Each candidate had 45 minutes to respond to questions. Instead of giving the candidate two or three minutes to respond to each question the candidates were allowed to ramble on and on with the result being less than twenty of the questions could be asked and there was no time for the candidate to ask questions of the Board.
Mr. Bush listed his strengths as "confident, persistent and driven". He listed such accomplishments as increased graduation rates at both schools he had served as principal. He listed the greatest challenge here would be to "build trust and prepare students not only for graduation but for after graduation as well".
Mrs. Shelton stated her greatest strength was "I am a curriculum and standards assessment expert". She also spoke of the need to increase graduation rates and her extensive experience as an administrator in school systems and with the state during the last two years. Her most impressive statement was, "people need to know they have a part in decisions". Mrs Shelton weakened her position by being supportive of "common core" and speaking more on theory than practical application.
Mr. Wright listed his greatest strength as "27 years in education and being named "Teacher of the Year" twice. Stated in response to "Why should we trust you with our children?" that "no real reason (to trust him now) trust is earned and you will soon see that trust grows from my involvement which will be in every area of the school and community".
Each spoke of the need to incorporate new and advancing technologies in the classroom and to increase the standing of the system within the state.
Two candidates will be asked to return on 14 May for a final round of questions. I can only hope there will be a better utilization of the time at that session.
Shameful and disgraceful is what happened!
It's Dr. Shelton not Mrs.
Yippee! Although she has earned it, it is only paper dear. They do not want her. It was just a front! It was agony watching this board interview these people. Really embarrassing to be honest.
Giles County will see when it all falls into place. Board is so blind of technology and a small town, they honestly feel that Giles County is too stupid to know what is really going on.
Wow, 8:22, your tinfoil hat is picking up some especially looney things today.
Tuesday, April 21, 2015 8:10:00 AM
Is that the best you can do to make a crack at WAB?
I would think Tammy is proud to be Mrs Shelton as well as Dr. Shelton.
For sure she should be proud of both. And I do not think the tin foil is what people need to worry about. I think some others should have considered some things. I did not see several of the little outsiders at meeting last night. Maybe the "farmers" in Elkton were farming, or maybe? Little wives may want to check on that. But then they probably don't care as long as the money is rolling in. Right under their noses, as so some others in the schools and in community. Might want to watch who your "friends" are.
I really think these people think the community is stupid! May not see names for now, but lived here a long time and don't think the community will let this one rest. In due time! I assure you! Their lives will change, but they just do not see it yet. Knowing some of these people all my life and it is sad!
Gee that's been known for years! I guess it's ok if they aren't black so the little farmer's wives don't care or ignore it! Got to watch when you have your little gatherings! Let them live in their little world!
Tuesday, April 21, 2015 3:32:00 PM
I don't understand your post.
Was some from Elkton for or against JB Smith?
Want to know the outcome? Bush and Shelton will be asked to come back. Shelton because she is a minority. And Bush will become Director because he has promised to bring coaches with him. And we know how important athletics is. This man will make it happen. But they don't have to hire any of them.
Why is it stated that blacks are yelling racism. I'm not black and I know Brewer and Lovell are racist. Holt isn't racist he is just pissed that his wife chose a fine upstanding black man over him. And McMasters must have spent a lot of summers with her evil Aunt.
Mrs. McMasters was nice enough to want to share questions from Marshall County. Wasn't that nice and appropriate for anyone who applied there in the past.
They have wanted Bush from the beginning. Cobb was asked by Brewer says his friend. Know these people. Surprised of them all.
The farmers they mention, well surely not all but Cobb has one working at school. Farmer's wife. Not sure if she teaches or not, but may want to keep tabs on at home. Guess all of them too worried about who will be director. Sad part its right under their nose.
A lot of changes on the way. Teachers, principles etc. It is all going to get worse before better. And surely they do not think putting Bush in will help football. Board does not realize, community is pissed off.
A lot of people, teachers and staff involved in this matter. Just as the community supported someone for director well I can see them supporting education for the right reasons. The little farmers can make things happen with money, but the little rats and front runners, well those are the ones that are in stone. Maybe the farmers can bail you out of your troubles. Doubt it though because they do not want it to be ALL known. They have their problems of their own.
You are right above, the blacks are not yelling it. Others are, so at this point, I say let them yell it. Dam I have talked to more white people and they have said race was a factor. You see, we have known these people all of our lives. I cannot blame anyone yelling race one bit because it is true partly. JB can yell more than race in this matter. Holt, Mcmasters, Brewer, Lovell and Williamson along with some others in the system, Young, Mcree and many more. Cannot say I would blame JB if he brought all of them to the cleaners and even the school system along with the city commissioners and county. A lot of involvement. Holt runs his mouth too much around the town. Dont think they dotted their "i"s too well.
It is shameful to even know them at this point. As long as I have lived here and worked here, I can honestly say that this has stirred up this county. And to say all of this is not going to even be about education, well shame on a lot of the Giles County School System. Some teachers especially is the shocking part.
The community still needs to continue to support JB. Keep speaking out.
It would be a lot easier to side with the Smith supporters If their posts made any sense at all. All of these vague accusations and posts about farmers and somebody's husband or wife are ridiculous. Does anybody actually know what these people are talking about?? It sounds like a bunch of drunk rambling to me.
Yes they are oldies from the past and probably are drunk but the interesting part is they know the truth. I think what they mean is it will all back fire.
Talking about the last time this all happen with football.
Mayfield Edgeman Dunnavent, Holt, Their puppet Young, Board, Commissioners and a few others. Education is not first for these people. Never have been as long as i can remember.
Just about power. Always has been. Hell look at the name on the school. So do you understand now? Lived here and seen a lot. Don't know the saying exactly but it catches up. Really does. This blog. I have said my say and do not even care to view it ever again. As like me, we are anonymous and too chicken to even put our names because people are so cruel.
I really feel sorry for the kids. They are not helping them, just helping themselves. Just remember money or not, these kids have to take care of you all. My daughter is one that thinks coming to give me the paper is helping me. Wait until you sit in a chair in your own soil maybe you will wonder then how even your own kids can turn. It happens to most that are selfish in life, it has me. And you only is the one that suffers because the others really do not care! Bless all of you.
There are many feelings expressed here but few facts. I appreciate the interaction as part of our rights to speak freely. The thing that I find detestable is bringing in children and spouses that have nothing to do with a situation. A child has no control over who their parents are and a few adults have any control of their spouse, just as few parents have control over teen or grown children. Please can't our comments be confined to those people directly involved? There are some who are deserving of the harshest criticism but it is not those who have no involvement other than their genealogy.
Thanks Allen, things are getting out of hand. I rarely disagree with you but I do on the Smith thing. The first thing he did was give all the money back that Webb had cut for budget or whatever reasons. Smith claimed ignorance or his supporters claimed that. Give me a break, he knew exactly what he was doing, a page out of T. Jacksons playbook. Reward the ones you need to support you and to heck with the taxpayers. This is what the silent majority thinks, I hear it every day. Debra Braden was an interim director for awhile and the school system worked as smooth as I have ever seen it. Do not here any keep Braden advocates do we? The board is on the right track, whether they are are "professional" or not. Give the board a chance, if the turn out is not what you want, go to the polls. That is how our system works. Allen is right, quit slandering people because you cannot control them. Neither can their poor spouse or parent. You are only pouring salt in the wound.
You are absolutely correct! And to be honest, I do not like what this blog brings out in me. Never again will I read this site. Not worth it and a waste of my spirit.
Wednesday, April 22, 2015 5:26:00 PM
I like what you said about their parents or spouse can't control them.
It's strange how a good person in Giles County can get elected and forget about the ones elected them.
I do think any elected to office needs to have a schooling on anger management, how to act and what the rules of a meeting are. The video of the school meeting is embarrassing.
5:26: You're absolutely right, except you forgot to add that when he gave the money back (much of it salaries, which he did not have the right to do) that included a hefty pay raise for himself. I'm not making things up or trying to spread a lie. It's the truth. What confuses me is that people don't seem to think there's anything wrong with that.
When he reinstated Berenetta Houston's prior salary, as well as that of others, he broke state law. Period. But anytime someone seems to bring that up the only response they get is some vague statement about the current or former board breaking the law, too. Well the former board, with the exception of one, is gone. And if the current board has, that doesn't mean Mr. Smith gets a freebie (or two or three) to do it himself.
And why don't people think there's anything wrong with the fact that he gave out $40,000 in bonuses that were unearned? Sure, he might have legitimately been confused about what the board's intent was and thought it meant people who had missed up to ten days could retroactively get their bonuses? But please tell me why he thought people who missed 20, 30, and over 100 days should get a bonus?
And to top it all off, Mr. Smith just doesn't have the same level of experience the other candidates have (although that's arguable with Bush who was nowhere near as impressive as the other two). He's been a great principal, but that just isn't the same thing as being a director. It's apples and oranges. He's never put together a budget or formulated policy -he said himself he had no idea how much the stuff in the budget amendment was going to cost. Why, when the one thing everyone on this blog has ever seemed to agree on, is the "good ol' boy attitude" in Giles County has got to go, do you want to support someone solely because he's from here?
I know exactly what's going to happen when I post this comment. People will call me CG (whoever that is -if someone could explain that would be great), and there will be accusations that I hate Mr. Smith or Allen Barrett or freedom or puppies. But I honestly don't foresee anyone addressing the things I've brought up. I just hope that someone out there who feels the same way will read this and know they're not alone.
Plain and simple, Smith is not going to be director! That part is done! The old board is gone and a new board is in.
But just so all can know of all of the meetings and make their own opinions, will request from June to present but especially November and on, for PES to request to be put all on You Tube. Will post the links once posted on You Tube.
I think that is the best way so all can think what they want and have their own opinion.
You can have your own opinion but you can't have your own facts.
Cannot hide facts from a film! Film is there to back the facts.
If all money is accounted for, then all should have facts right in front of them on paper also, no matter where it went.
Bush is who Holt and Brewer want. They are not concerned who is qualified. If they were, it would have been the ones out of state.
Except Holt doesn't want Bush. He told someone after the meeting he likes Shelton and Wright.
That is the problem. It is always someone told someone. We will all see soon. Shelton is the most qualified out of the three. I would be very surprised if they appointed a woman. My opinion of course.
Bill holt assured some 7th district voters he would have JB as one of his 3 to show he had gotten over the divorce.
I agree that Mr Smith as well as a number of others made mistakes. I supported Mr. Smith as Director and still believe that he would have been a good director with a little time and support but that boat has sailed. There is no current circumstance I can imagine where Mr. Smith would possibly be the director now. I doubt if he could be forced to take that position now. The point I tried to make was that it is uncalled for that noninvolved family members are being brought into the fray in the most disgusting and unfair ways.
I public official is open game for questions and legitimate criticism but why attack innocent family members just because they are related?
After listening to the candidates I am throughly convinced that Mrs. Shelton is far to much the professional bureaucrat with far more theory that practical application who is too supportive of "Common Core" to benefit students.
Isn't common core a state wide curriculum? I mean she couldn't take that out of schools even if she didn't support it, could she?
Common Core is such a bad program that the Tennessee Legislature has repealed it.
As proof of how bad the thing is the Tennessee House of Representatives voted unanimously (97:0) to repeal Common Core while the State Senate followed with a (27:1) vote in favor of repeal. It is rather unprecedented that every legislator republican and democrat, except one voted to throw this monstrosity out of our schools.
Mrs. Sheldon has a very impressive resume on paper the problem for me is her lack of actual classroom experience over the past ten years. Clearly by her own words she has been more a political figure than educator.
Bush it will probably be because of sports. It's the same every football town.
Barrett, the fact that you don't support Dr. Shelton is the best possible thing she could have in her favor.
Wednesday, April 22, 2015 8:05:00 PM
Are you saying Wright or Shelton has been a director and knows how to do the things you talked about?
I though no one that applied had ever done that.
8:41 That's a good way to get the job for Wright. Thanks for the good news.
Bush and Lovell have a Church relationship. Bush will bring coaches back (one is Cobb's son). Bush had a copy of th questions beforehand. Just so you know
Phillip Wright will be the new director.
Hope that's not so 4:40.
100%.
3:01, prove it! Making anonymous accusations on this blog is insane. You can accuse all you want to when nobody can prove it was you. And before you say that I'm anonymous too, understand that I am not making accusations. I'm just asking for proof. If you can't be an adult and prove it, then stop making the accusations.
Sure they do! It's a wait and see game just like the board is playing. I guess they pissed off the wrong people in farm land.
Bush didn't have the questions. The school board didn't even have them. And even if he did? That's pretty funny because he was still the worst of the three. I can't wait for when Bush isn't the director and then you'll all be saying you knew it all along and wasn't *whatever happens* *insert member's name here* plan all along. For people who supposedly know so much about everyone and their intentions you don't seem to actually go to the meetings. There were a lot of empty seats at the school board meeting.
Bush or Wright, it does not matter. Neither are qualified compared to Stockdale, but our board would not have been able to handle him intelligently! He is way over their heads!!
No one had the questions. You are right on that one. And yes some empty seats at meeting, but the right seats were filled.
At this point, people are just letting things happen. "The Process".
What could Stockdale have possibly known about Tennessee education laws?
I would think he is intelligent enough to learn, don't you think? There are people that live in Tennessee and do not know the education laws. Just going to sit back and watch.
This school system has been down a long time. When my niece went off to college, she struggled and she was top 10 in her class. Although I miss her, she is happy and has a wonderful career that she could not have received here. She will never come back here. Her parents go to see her. If my children were still in school, I would move tomorrow. But they have moved on and so glad they have. Life was easier longer ago, but in today's world, the kids are the ones that will suffer and make some rough choices. And in today's world, it is not just about black or white, it is about meth or not? Sex or not? The focus is in the wrong places in some minds. But I guess as life passes, we will just have to see which road one takes.
Amen to that. .he seemed to think very highly of himself!
James Carville, Democrat political consultant extraordinaire – and former Bill Clinton campaign manager, has astonishingly come out and said what all good Republicans have known for decades: Not only are most Democrats politically clueless; they’re easily manipulated by the puppet masters of their party as well. Wow. James Freaking Carville. Of all people. Here’s an excerpt, as quoted on Amazon.com:
“Ideologies aren’t all that important. What’s important is psychology.
The Democratic constituency is just like a herd of cows. All you have to do is lay out enough silage and they come running. That’s why I became an operative working with Democrats. With Democrats all you have to do is make a lot of noise, lay out the hay, and be ready to use the ole cattle prod in case a few want to bolt the herd.
Eighty percent of the people who call themselves Democrats don’t have a clue as to political reality.
What amazes me is that you could take a group of people who are hard workers and convince them that they should support social programs that were the exact opposite of their own personal convictions. Put a little fear here and there and you can get people to vote any way you want.
The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic operative instead of a Republican was because there were more Democrats that didn’t have a clue than there were Republicans.
Truth is relative. Truth is what you can make the voter believe is the truth. If you’re smart enough, truth is what you make the voter think it is. That’s why I’m a Democrat. I can make the Democratic voters think whatever I want them to.”
11:03 PM Sounds like pillow talk from his Republican wife!
Let's get back onto a subject that shows how well Janet Vanzant and her gang have respect for our County.... Seems she fought to have a beer license issued to the "Choke and Poke" (oh I meant the Stop and Chat) in Campbellsville so that her friends can make money selling beer. Now they are accused for selling beer to minors.
Thank you Janet; your friends are truly forthright.
3:34 PM sounds like a Democrat referred to by 11:03 PM.
7:58, you're truly an idiot. To blame Janet for Mr. Patel selling beer to a minor is the most absurd thing ever.
Can you imagine how the world will be for the kids and our grand kids? It is not looking too pretty. People cannot control it now legally and fairly, can you imagine the greed of tomorrow? Leave a smart ass answer if you choose, but watch the news before you do. Greed and cruelness is just not in Giles County! We only thought we had a lot to worry about when my kids were younger. Some cruelness in the world and the really sad part is, those people think it is the right thing to do! We sit in this little town and think it will not affect us, but it does and will!! When that child and grandchild wants to see the world, there is not a dam thing you can do about it! Out of our control!! We can only pray and hope that God watches over all.
People really do not think beyond their wants and what they think they can control, but in all, it is just a matter of time. We do have choices in our lives but our choices do control our tomorrows. Good or bad!
When is the next board meeting and where?
7:59 That's right, sometimes our friends do things we don't approve of.
Whoever the gullible person at 11:03 is, you should have your BS Detector recalibrated. When something sounds ridiculous, it usually is. That fallacious quote in which James Carville purportedly likened the Democratic constituency to "a herd of cows" received wide circulation on the Internet in 2012. So not only are you gullible, you are three years behind the times gullible. It has been debunked repeatedly. It originated with an unsourced posting to ThinkExist.com and has been reproduced on a number of other web sites.Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/carville.asp#R2FsA26rcVqBK59Q.99
No you speak crap using race card to cause problems and slander good people.You didnt get your way accept it and support the new School SUPER. It is interesting to see all the race cards being thrown around maybe you dont like whitpeople. IM SICK OF IT.I You supporters of JB are acting like the Rioters Be Somebody act like adults show respect and stop representing Giles County its over
Ive known Mr Holt all my life and he has faults but he is a good man. Your raciest.If JB had lost and he was white no one would of said a word.This community has fought to come together against the KKK but they have rights. What about the brother hood march or Martin Luther King MArch it is all apart of history. Giles County is a beautiful place filled with beautiful people and we are far from raciest so grow up my gosh its a dead horse. If you remember white people fought end slavery you using it as a crutch is putting black americans back in bondage people who stay in the past can never move forward.Stop attacking the school board your nothing but bullies mad cause you didnt get what you want you dont care about the children or you would support whomever the board elects. Your threats are childish and mean NOTHING
I hope you are not an educator little farmers put food in your big mouth farmers make the world go around. Farmers wives are hard working and dedicated not busy bodies you sound like a bitter soul .
People have a right to complain. That don't mean in the end when a new Director takes over they want support him/her if they do a good job. People watched JB and judged him. That's just the way of life
Anyone can state anything anonymous here and in letters. Downing people whether for or against. Anyone that has made it from a Somebody to a Nobody is because you choose to be a Nobody by being anonymous! At least the board and others do know exactly where myself and others stand.
I only hope that whomever the new director will be can work together with the board. Yes it is about the kids and the Giles County School Board System. Always has been. Others have made it about other things whether for or against and myself and others cannot control that. But those people are not afraid to stand for what they believe in unlike some here and the person writing letters, etc. I would say it is all about them because they are afraid of what they can lose so I would say that is a little selfish.
So keep giving your history lessons etc, here. As the board, it is everyone's choice and if people feel it is the right choice for the right reasons, then you should be able to live with it.
Good things happen to good people! Mr. Smith will move on and probably there is something even better out there! Everything happens for a reason!
Name on 8:43...Pam Ryland.
If anyone thinks that Mr. Bill Holt is a good man, they don't know him well enough. He puts on a front from a distance. Talk to him. It wont take long for him to prove that he is a bitter, sex crazed and spiteful man.
His father was a fine man. Unfortunately James Ed's morals did not carry through to his worthless son. I guess there is only so much you can do to make your children the people you want them to be. Bill Holt really sucks like a vacuum cleaner.
You are bitter and unhappy. As you are anonymous and so am I, but honestly you are telling them to be adults? Read your post a few times. I think you are probably a person that will always bitch. Trust me with any director, the people that always bitch and whine will always bitch and whine. The people for JB just wanted to see him as director, but did not happen so I am sure people will support the new director. The board is going to be the problem. Watch and see the changes to come and then let's see who whines then. I am retired from the system and I am so thankful I am.
I think that the things to watch are the people that get promoted after we hire the new director. They are selfish and little! One of them had to bring Grand dad back so his little girl could play ball! And does anyone think that that Young girl could ever got promoted without strings being attached?
No personnel changes should happen until 6 months to a year. The Director will not be from Giles County and surely or hopefully he or she would not be one to be controlled. That person needs to evaluate the school system first from their point of view. Not from others and especially the school board. If there are, people think the community was involved with the appointing of director, with the teachers and staff, well the board has already made their problems for themselves, so they would only make more. Community is just watching the process take place at this time. Then, well, their problems will be bigger. Been here all of my life and never have seen the hatred and cruelness this has shown through in people I have known all of my life, especially Brewer family.
You're so full of shit. The only people spewing hatred are those supporting Mr. Smith. He could've been the new director. But he couldn't handle somebody being his boss. Like it or not, the board is the immediate supervisor of the director of schools and that's the way it should be. They're the only people that actually hear and know everything from their communities and within the system. JB Smith ruined that job opportunity all on his own.
The school board did everything that they know to do to make JB look bad, and they still didn't succeed!
JB was the right man for the job. The selfish school board and the power hungry others (we all know who they are) mess this whole thing up.
People will see who is full of shit. No, Smith will not be director and at this point, probably a great thing for him. Others are in for a surprise. Should have watched out for your own job instead of trying to destroy someone else's. But some were too ignorant to realize it. Will be interesting.
Just read this entire thread - 20 days worth of inane bickering & abject ignorance, sprinkled with a few comments of logic/reason.
The "victims" of this mess are certainly the children & their education. But it goes much deeper than this. Our "good ol' boy" class of ignoramuses are guaranteeing continued economic malaise, as no business will want to locate in a county with dysfunctional schools. Which is great for the multi-generational ignoramuses, because "change" means progress, and progress means they lose their privileged "good ol' boy" status. The few children with devoted parents who DO earn a solid education must escape GC for good jobs and future opportunities for THEIR children. If we don't break this cycle we're doomed folks.
Meanwhile ... we keep electing "nice" people, with "nice" family reputations, disregarding experience, education, & professional temperament. Newsflash - there are a lot of "nice" people who are are also managerial idiots. As long as our voting criteria requires us to know a candidate's multi-generational history, and as long as we require candidates who are native-born with a GC education, while disregarding all other criteria, this cycle of governmental ineptitude will continue, ad infinitum.
Chances are my kids could come to this blog 20 years from now, and the same ol' bitchin will be going on, and the same ol' bungling incompetents running the asylum. It must be this way because the majority want it that way - there's no other explanation in a democracy.
You are correct! Thank you!
8:21 AM Plus "Its been done this way for 200 years, why change it now?"
Great post. Says it all.
Yes great post! But this time around, some people should get their lawyer ready. All will tell once director is appointed. All involved for or against will be brought to the table. Will be interesting to watch.
Nothing but ignorant bull shit here. Nothing to any of this crap.
God hates Giles County.
God does not hate anyone but God is probably disappointed! He sees the truth and that's all that matters to many and to me. We ALL have to face our demons sooner or later. Hits in different ways for people to make one see. No one is perfect but when some things are done intentional, different story but one has to live with it. All I can say is my heart is in the right place. Others, their choices in life and we all have to live with our choices. I support the Giles County School teachers and kids. That is what it is about for me.
Thursday, May 07, 2015 6:16:00 PM
Is this another one of those "Hee Hee I know something you don't know?"
I do not know if it is a "hee hee" but I think 6:16 is correct. I really do not find anything funny about it all. A very serious situation it is. Not sure what they know, but hear say in this small town, I think they are correct. Might hurt some pockets.
You may want to correct your post!
Who?
yes
Why does Pam Ryland keep trying to convince everyone she is a nice person when she caused all this turmoil?
Yes I think Mr Smith would have made a very good director. But it is over Ms. Ryland, please let Mr. Smith walk away with his dignity. You are only making this situation worse with your desire to be the town hero. It is over.
JB never agreed with what P R tried to do for him. He knows that it helped lead to his downfall. JB is a great teacher . He realizes he made some mistakes that cost him dearly. So sad that great talent will be lost for our county.
Hell Ryland should be the farthest from people's worries.
Sunday, May 10, 2015 10:10:00 PM
How did Pam R cause all this turmoil?
Well it looks like First National Bank finally got around to naming their Park at old Bennett-may! The "Baddour-Hatfield Park! In honor of the two men that made sure that property wasn't sold for retail and able to bring in sales tax revenue! Great thinking guys and thanks FNB for honoring them!
That is quite humorous. Ignorant, but humorous!
I came here from a foreign country, Alabama, in 1983, grew to love this community with all my heart, but there are some total idiots who reside here. Not just locals, not just old timers, not newcomers but a combination of all. I still think I live on the greatest place on earth, south eastern Giles County.
Humorous. Ignorant. TRUE.
First National Bank must have "ticked off" P.R!!!
P.R is at it again!!!
Could care less! I thought it was for the Yellow Deli. Funny!
I would say that is Allen that is pissed off on that issue. Maybe he will start a new post on it
i thought it was yellow deli too. they buying everything.
When will we learn who the new Director will be?
2 finalist will be named Thur. Evening.
Thanks for getting back on topic of thread.
Absolutely P.R. Totally agree!
I've been reading several weeks of post I've missed and am wondering what has been said or done that lead to someone needing a lawyer.
Tuesday, May 12, 2015 2:16:00 PM
I totally agree with your post. If the law would have been followed as it was written at the time Mr. Rose we would have a nice addition to the retail and employment of Pulaski. But instead the wishes of a few citizens who attend Pat Miles and Dan Speer's church were considered instead of the law.
When Pat Ford came into office what did he say? Oh yes. Pulaski was going to be the profit center of the South. I'm sure he had specific individuals in mind when he said this.
And now Pat Ford is stating it is the city's goal to build retail. This empty statement comes shortly after the city council has refused to allow retail to come into the downtown business districts because three churches are given preferred treatment by our city council over the law and retail establishments.
Very sad.
Write and believe what you want, but the 2:16 post is just not true!
Mr. Rose chose not to move his business there, and the city council provided every bit of information available to attempt to help those, and any other business that inquired. The beer ordinance was actually revised at this time in Rose's favor.
Check it out instead of spreading propaganda.
OMG...I didn't want to believe what I had been hearing about the new school board. But after last night, the proof is there. Dumbest board there has ever been! Not talking about the two choices for director but about every other decision they made. So so sad for Giles County.
P.R is at it again!!
I thought it was cg at it again.
Oh that must be you.
Where were you people who supported Richie when it was actually relevant? The city council members said they hadn't had a single phone call in favor of changing the beer ordinance in a way that would let him build his store. You can make anonymous blog posts but you can't make a phone call?
And for the record, Richie said he wouldn't build his store there if the church didn't approve as a courtesy. That had nothing to do with the city council.
No, the law was NOT disregarded. Richie was asking for the law to be CHANGED. It was changed much later but not to what he asked for. Because the property line of a place that sells beer has to be so many feet from a church (which is so stupid in 2015) he asked for the distance to be measured from the front door instead of the property line.
The church members didn't like that at all because when he said it was going to be a million dollar store that happened to sell beer they ACTUALLY SAID they didn't want a bunch of drunk people sitting on their church steps! Shouldn't those be the people they want to see at a CHURCH?
You can't sell beer within a certain number of feet of a church, school or playground. So you know what the church did next? They put in a bunch of playground equipment in back. Because their pastor said he didn't think the children should be exposed to the kind of people that would come in Richie's store and buy beer. What do the people at First Presbyterian think happens at gas stations? You would have thought a whore house was going in next door for the amount of pearl clutching that went on.
But you know what? Not one of you people called the city council and said hey, I think you should get rid of the distance requirement for the beer ordinance around churches. This is 2015 and its beer not cocaine. Everyone here is so quick to criticize what goes on as though you were a part of it but you couldn't even be bothered to make a call, send a letter or write an email.
So I see that Wright and Shelton are the two top nominees. It's a disappointment to see that Mr. Smith was never seriously considered as a candidate. He has the respect of his students and teachers alike.
Mr. Smith was too strong for the school board and the football boosters to push around. That is one of the reasons why he was eliminated as a candidate. We all know the other reasons. imo
I thought all of you said John Bush was going to get the job. Specifically, I remember you saying Bill Holt was going to vote for him because of athletics. You all like to pretend you have the inside story on everything, but you don't know anything. Shocker.
As for why JB isn't going to be the director, I've told you so many times but no one likes the truth.
The man broke state law! He changed salaries (including his own) without approval and he awarded tens of thousands of dollars in bonuses to people who shouldn't have gotten a bonus! Yes, everyone makes mistakes, but when you're specifically told this is who gets the bonus and you disregard that, that's not a simple mistake.
No one will talk about this because no one who can prove it is allowed to talk about it, but jesus people JB punched an autistic kid and got sued for it. That's your guy?
6:17,
That is a blatant lie. The city board excluded 5000 sq ft grocery stores from all distance requirements in 2008. That was a discriminatory act, created unfair competition, and there are numerous rulings setting precedent that a city may not enact different distance requirements for the distribution of beer.
Mr. Rose stated to the city board his establishment would comply with the 5000 sq. ft. requirement of grocery stores. And although the zoning ordinance acknowledges gas is a product of grocery stores the city board refused to follow law.
The city board did change the beer ordinance but to guarantee Mr. Rose's proposed business would not meet the requirements of the new restrictions.
The new ordinance allowed only groceries with 5000 sq. ft. of retail space, excluding walk-ins, behind counter areas, and bathrooms, from the measurable retail space. Mr. Rose was only going to have 5000 gross floor space, so how did they change it in Mr. Rose favor? You should educate yourself before spewing nonsense. Anyway, the city is about to be dragged in front of a judge to decide if what they have done is legal.
I think a lot of people are sick of the actions to deter businesses from coming into the area.
I think a lot of people are sick of your nonsense! Mr. Rose DID NOT pursue the property!!!!!!!
Everybody has their opinion on who they thought would get the job. Everyone knows why JB didn't. Because he would not cower to those who want to control him. And for those two other reasons that everyone knows about.
9:42,
What you say is a lie as well. There have been those that have challenged the beer ordinances. I have witnessed it. I was in a meeting when the guy that owned Punk-n-Blues Cafe challenged the city for violating state law in the issuance of beer permits on public property. Andy Hoover, Dan Speer and the council told him he did not understand the law. He tried to talk to them and had the laws with him but the board would not talk with him.
The council recently changed the ordinance because it was in violation of state law, as the guy had stated two years ago, when I witnessed them treat the guy like he was an idiot.
I would appreciate if you would not assume an anonymous post is mine. I sign my name to my posts unlike you. A friend of mine reads this site and tells me to read it. At this point, I ask why? And no more!
I am assuming who you are, and I feel that I am correct. I was going to confront you last night, but felt it was not the correct time and place.
I say to you and anyone else, I am not ashamed of who and what I stand for as you are apparently scared to do.
I truly hope the new director can fix Giles County Schools. It will be a long and hard road and a lot on their plate. They can put a director from anywhere in, but if they do not work together as we see over and over again at every meeting that they do not, Giles County Schools will only continue to go backwards. I mean for heaven sake, bickering over toilet paper and where a meeting will be?
Everyone has a choice in life and they have to live with it. We all have kids and do not know what tomorrow brings.
At this point, the board probably did Mr. Smith a favor! I truly believe and know that now! Better things ahead for him. For Giles County Schools? A long road yet!
So I say good luck to you and good luck that you get or have gotten what you wanted out of this. I know myself and others are at peace and especially after last night's meeting, myself and others have seen and feel, it worked out how it was suppose to! Things happen for a reason! Thanks for making me see that because I do not want to no where near and want to be in your category, which in my eyes is "anonymous"! You type that very well! Good luck...maybe you can get back to where you were in the system, but doubt that!
Wright was contacted a long time ago!! Football!!!
10:36. You are so uninformed. JB did not get the job becsuse he is NOT a team player. It is his way or no way and that doesnt work in adminstration. The City Council,County Commission, and School Board couldn't work with him because he would not consult them about budget, salaries etc as he is supposed to do. He even called the County Commission members "assholes" in front of people in the court house. That cooked his goose to acquire any monetary support for education. JB would have ruined education because of this. He did several things illegally that few know about too. JB cut his own throat for the job. Totally his fault. Had nothing to do with Bill Holt and him marrying the same woman while they were employed at the same school. JB is an excellent adminstrator but he spoiled that for himself. No one else's fault but JB's. Dont blame innocent people just because you dont like them.
Embarrassing it was last night. I left after the toilet paper. I cannot even teach in this system anymore. After the new director is in, I am going to speak to he or she. They have to know some of the truth of behind the scenes that has been happening and at this point I am only concerned of my children and the children of the schools because others are not! I can find another job elsewhere but the kids cannot find another school just so.
1:44. Several people were contacted a while ago. Nothing wrong with that. No guarantee of the job just because he was contacted. Sports interest didnt matter at all. Dont try to make something out of nothing. My goodness. Do you have a life?
Lol so true! Does not matter who was contacted or what, this County needs help! Wish people could see that. Easy to point fingers as so many do.
1:59 I am uninformed? Tell me what business a school superintendent and the city council have going on?
Also, the commission and the school board purposefully set JB up on many occasions. There was not one bit of support from this group and other groups for reasons stated earlier.
We all know that JB would have been a very good superintendent, given time. The group of power hungry mongrels made sure that they got their selfish way!
12:56 You and the guy who owned Punk N Blues are both idiots. The dude at Punk N Blues was not upset about the beer ordinance. He was upset about the sign ordinance.
And the council did not change the beer ordinance because it did not comply with state law. They changed it to help simplify and standardize it.
Obviously Ms. Ryland you have never worked in a professional environment, or you would know that P.R. stands for public relations! Look it up under
d-e-f-I-n-I-t-I-o-n-s!!! This really isn't all about you!!
Why do people have to call someone that don't agree with them names?
Shows what kind of a person they are.
So who is Ms. ryland anyway?
Someone who needs to learn how to let it goooo, let it goooo!!!
8:39 Read her post again, she has let it go. How about you letting her go and stop your crying?
I feel sorry for the person unlucky enough to get the job of Director. God bless and watch over them. They will up set someone and some of the board members no matter what they do.
Okay P.R, we will read again!!
Lol C.Y.
Sounds like all of her other posts to me!
Yep me too!
I totally agree
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Interesting from 2013.....
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Yes this is a good topic...only
Problem is where to start?
Overall, Dr Webb has done positive things already.
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 2:51:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Most of the changes have already been discussed on other threads. It's a little late now. The latest change is that Elkton has gotten Donna Cobb as the principal.
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 4:34:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Who is really in charge at the Board of Education? the Board seems to be wheeling and dealing to their drum beat. Webb on a string. Cindy Young moving into number two spot as her husband is chairman of the Board. No politics? Right!
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 4:36:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Danny Hickman out as transportation supervisor. Pam Ogden out as Special Ed director. Braden out as Assistant Director. Gonzales out as Principal of Elkton. Alternative School closed. Two principals at GCHS to get different assignments. Shirey to become person in charge of transportation and maintenance. Janice Franklin named principal of Richland. Micah Landers to become Assistant principal at Richland. More to come....
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 5:27:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
A lot of these people let go were ready to retire. Were there any let go and not placed in another position?
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 5:41:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This Cindy Young promotion wagon needs to stop! I will refrain from saying more, but I'm pretty certain that she is where she is because of blood, not because of talent.
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 6:58:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just because you are near retirement does not justify letting you go because you are near that point. None were anticipating being let go by the new director. It pays to have friends and relatives in high places.
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:28:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
There is a big difference in ready to retire and forced to retire. A school employee can retire after 30 years so basically most teachers can retire in early to mid 50's. Most are not ready at that age. Wanting to retire and being shown the door are two different things.
Thursday, June 27, 2013 6:33:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What about a new thread on why Obama and his gorgeous health-conscious wife are on a $100 million dollar trip to Africa at the taxpayers' expense?
Surely, that can't be blamed on Mrs. Vanzant, Terry Harwell, or David Rackley?
Thursday, June 27, 2013 8:17:00 AM
It was a mess then and will continue to be a mess as long as the same folks are in it. This time it is revenge for some. There is more on the thread comments just as ugly as on this one and the past others. Something how that good ole name is brought up in the old threads. I have seen the same ole people fighting forever. This time it looks as though some results will be surprising for some.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Cindy Young is Manager of Instruction???!!? With zero experience being a principal and only one year being a supervisor? I have nothing against her or anyone else personaly but if you take that out and just look at qualifications. Its hard to see how she can be thought the right person for the job when most of the others who have more experience and knowledge in being a leader. I don't have to deal with her much but most of the teachers in my school cringe when they see her coming because she wants everyone to do things and teach only the way she wants. This is the most shocking news yet. As bad as I hate to say it it is 100% obvious why she got the job and its not because of ability. As for Webb so far I think he has done some good things but I can't agree with this choice at all. there are others more qualified and who would be better at it based on personality only even without that.
Thursday, June 27, 2013 7:01:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
5:56
You hit the nail on the head. It IS because her husband was elected to the board. It is only since then she has been moving up. She applied for nearly every principal or supervisor job that came open before that and got nothing but not any more. Coincedence? NOT! And no, no hating people going on here at all. Just hate the politics,that people use politics to get ahead when they cant do it any other way.
Thursday, June 27, 2013 7:11:00 PM
Professionalism? Really?
P.R is at it again!!!
Not PR dear. Work with you everyday!
No you don't "dear", because P.R. doesn't work! Girl, bye!!
The board meeting was a joke. Gonzales in charge of the budget? He overspent his own budget way before first semester was over. What was McMasters thinking or even was she? Has she or any board member even taken the time to check into anything before spouting stupidity?????? And Brewer has no clue at all. We send in orders over and over for supplies and NEVER get them until JB steps in. Then MG blames the custodians. He was nowhere to be found during test time or any other time for that matter and left the schools hanging then blame them for test screwups. He is the biggest joke in the whole school system. We can't get supplies like toilet paper but the bus drivers will have nice new shirts to wear. If that is his priorities just imagine what the budget will look like. Rumor is he or Cindy will be assistant director and both have already been scheming for it. Wonder if Gonzales knows how bad Cindy talks about him behind his back? So sad for our schools.
You've bashed sports, especially football. You've bashed the farmers and their wives. Although you enjoy the food the farmers provide for you. Now you are bashing Cindy Young. Sounds like you need to get a life, or better yet; maybe a job!
If Ryland wanted to bash someone, she would at least confront you. I am sure she will if needed and that woman works harder than you ever have! And if you do not believe I work with you or work at Giles County High, myself and others will make it known. You really do not have a clue this time around. I posted that nonsense above because that is what it is, nonsense. You and others could care less about only yourselves! You have put people through hell! As far as for Ms Ryland working, she works harder than you ever have but I think it's a touch a jealousy because she does not have to and you do! You surely eat her food at school don't you? You have to send people to get your food secretly and surely eat it.
You could not even walk in one of her shoes and several other parents that support us. She knows exactly who is against her beliefs at school but she does not judge them and greets them just the same. You have no clue of who she is, but the right people do.
You will meet her face to face I am sure in the near future. I cannot wait until the next week is up so I do not have to cringe for a few weeks. Or maybe you will get your old office back on the hill so you can get out of our hair!!!
Did I mention Ryland's name? It looks like you just gave yourself away!!
And yes now we know exactly who she is or should I say, who you are! Thank you!
Since we all know who you are now, this will be the last time I comment. But I just had one more thing to say, I have had your food at the school. And no, I don't have people sneak it for me. It really just wasn't all that good! Sorry!
Thank you and sure you got someone to get it, I was right next to her in line when she did. Ms. Ryland said hope "aw hope she likes it" but I see you did not. Maybe you sent her to sonic!
And your friend, well tummy problems she claims so she cannot eat anything like that. See you Monday! You will catch on soon Cindy. Cannot figure out how you do not see it!
Lady, the best thing for you is for this blog to just shut down. You are making yourself look worse and worse. You have already given yourself away by announcing your own name on that comment (12:26). You are just digging a really big hole for yourself that you are going to need a long ladder to get out of. Just going to have to let you do it to yourself I guess!
She is just tiring and boring! Says the same thing over and over!
OMG!!! Totally agree! So glad I am NOT in her shoes!
Mr. Smith really needs to put a stop to this woman. He is too good for this!
Yes he does! And yes he is too good for all this she has done and is still doing!
I' m sure Mr. Smith is mortified!
Yes this whole thing is just so sad!
I think she was genuine in the beginning, but it has just gone way too far!
Mr. Smith needs to nip this in the bud!!
Maybe her husband should just reel her in. I'm sure he's not too happy about all this. Heard Walgreens has lost a lot of business!
Heard they are leaving in a year, so he's probably not too worried about losing business.
Someone needs to investigate people who work so hard and draw a disability check! (12:26)!!!
Children grow up! If you aren't children you sure acting like it.
I found the post that said "Mr. Smith needs to nip it in the bud" strange. Can your spouse, parent, or friend stop you from posting on the blog?
Does all this hate make you feel big?
If my great granddaddy would have picked his own cotton we would not be in this mess today.
6:02, But we can't help what our great granddaddy's did.
I have no idea how my or J. B. Smith's great grandaddy behaved.
We should be judged on what we do. I don't know Mr. Smith, but have heard he was harder on the blacks than the white and tried to teach them they can be somebody, it's up to them.
Anyone ever heard of second chances?
To the person who keeps posting that she is a teacher, blah, blah, blah, please stop. It's obvious that you are not a teacher because first of all, you can't write! Your grammar is atrocious and you say the same things over and over! Our teachers are so much smarter than that, and would never post a comment the way you do! If you are supposed to be "all about the teachers and students, do our teachers a favor and stop pretending to be one of them. So sad!
Has the board decided on a Director yet?
Phillip Wright
He will do great. Sure to see some changes which is for sure needed in all the areas of the school system. A hard job ahead.
I went to school with some of our teachers. They weren't necessarily the "cream of the crop".
Someone told me "if they can't teach they get moved to the central office." Is that true?
God Bless Mr. Wright.
Just wait and see who gets the assistant superintendent's position. That will tell you right off the bat whether this guy was bought and paid for.
If it is Cindy Young........here we go again!
I would hope Mr. Wright has been reading and seeing the turmoil that has happened here. Just as the board brought him here, he just may bring his own people here which will not surprise me. Probably a good thing. I wish him luck. He needs it.
GOD bless Dan Watson and his mentor Executive Vanzant. Only here can an inept person be kept on for at least 16 years, draw a salary and benefits; and, then not be fired because the County executive says he is too close to retirement. Only in Giles County and under Vanzant are the inept rewarded and protected.
So true 1:24. Vote her butt out next election!
I see that happening also. He can hire someone from anywhere. His secretary or assistant may come along. Naturally he will want to work with someone he has known and trust. He does have his hands full. Read on WKSR that he seems to want to get things going by meeting with all.
To 9:19; do us all a favor and move back to where you came from!
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