E-mail topic: To Organize Or Not To Organize- that is the question.
Are people ready to do something about the existing unacceptable situation that exist within the school system, the city and county government or do you just want to talk about the need for something to be done? Here is your chance to do more than just ventilate.
posted by J. Kendrick McPeters | 7:46 PM
189 Comments:
There are some who are seeking to organize a group to address problems within our county. The time and place of the first organizational meeting is yet to be scheduled.
If you are interested in possibly being a part of such a group please post your thoughts on this thread. If you would be interested in taking part in the organizational meeting give me a call. Those who may be concerned about remaining anonymous I can only give my word to you that under no circumstance will I reveal your identity without your full permission. So please let us hear your concerns on this blog or call me, everything will be kept in strict confidence. My number is 363-1983 my name is Allen Barrett.
Wouldn't it be refreshing if this "group" would try focusing on positives rather than negatives for a change. They are continually wanting to investigate someone. Talk about drama kings and queens. Giles County has its share of them. It gets old!
Dear Mr. Barrett,
I will most definitely call you. I know you will face ridicule for what you are trying to do, but I respect you for being a force in this county to try get rid of those who abuse their power.
It seems that so many people are afraid to post their name on these sites, and that is a crying shame. Are we truly a free country? I think not! I have faced the retrubution of expressing my opinion. My son has also faced prejudice because of who I am. An innocent child of mine has not been allowed to be a part of this community because I did not suck up to the big wigs.
I wish you the best of luck and will support you in all your endeavors.
To anonymous of Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:04:21 PM you have to address the bad to get to the good, nothing will ever change if the people who are allowing all of this negative stuff to go on are not held accountable. Since you seem to know so much you tell us how we can go about doing things another way! Put up or shut up!
The only way for things to get better, for all of us, is to have open dialogue on the issues. We need to discuss our strengths and weaknesses. The strengths you try to continue to build on. The weaknesses have to be identified and CHANGED!
As for anonymous who speaks of "drama kings and queens", do you have reason to fear discussion or exposure of facts? Are you one of the ones working so hard to prevent government accountability?
Count me in!
No fear...just tired of the complaining and whining. If I work hard for anything, I work for giving peace a chance.
Wouldn't it be just as refreshing if the know-it-alls would channel their energies and egos toward positive things rather than constantly trying to "expose" and hurt others who are trying to do their jobs the best they know how. It may not be good enough for those "more enlightened", but it's worked just fine for all the years I can remember!
But do we really need a little insurgency group out there working to embarrass and destroy others? Am I my brother's keeper or not? Effective change can be accomplished without such alienating tactics. Perhaps these complainers need to be "investigated" first?
Again, give peace a chance. Think.
Anonymous..
You are opening yourself up to being accused of being an ostrich, ignorant, working for the status-quo, etc. by questioning their motives. You CAN'T win with these people because they always have the correct answer and final word.
One quick question to the above two post: Do you have children that attend RHS?
Are you a teacher or work at RHS?
Do you have family members that work at RHS?
Nope to all three.
Well I am a taxpayer and am tired of my money being wasted-being is I have no choice to pay or not. Yes it would be nice if peace would work but you see that is what has been happening over the years people sat back and just let happen whatever happened. And now giles county is one of the highest taxed counties in Tennessee. I have a problem with that. My family has to live on a budget, we can't go to our boss and tell him to give us more money just because we want it, but the people who are in charge of making decisions with our money do exactly that and when they make those decisions we have no choice in the matter. Most people do not complain for no reason, and usually aren't trying to hurt others they just wants answers to question that are never given!!!!
Amen to the above post. Those who have it made in getting whatever they want, are the ones we question here. Mr. Jackson asks for things that the county doesn't need. He ignores the problems at RHS because he doesn't want Ms. McMasters up there with him. If her really wanted to change things at that school, he would investigate the books, her attendance ( which I'll have to say has been better this yr.), but in the past has been horrific, and the obvious dissatisfaction by those who work with her, the parents, and even the students. Is there a way to get a copy of the results from the teacher evaluation done by the teachers last yr.? I would like a copy, and then ask Mr. Jackson why he continues to let her run that school. I'm 96% sure that the evaluation was negative.
Mr. Barrett, this it your blog, so I ask you to find the results of that evaluation.
Those of us who live on a budget, as the above poster does, are tired of this school system and their arrogance. Let there be peace indeed. Peace for those of us who work to pay for whatever the administraion wants.
Shameful.
IM..
Could you enlighten me as to what things you feel need to be changed in Giles County?
FREE SPENDING!!!!!!!!!!! Make the people who spend the money be accountable for how they spend it. I do not believe it was in the best interest of the taxpayers of Giles County to extend Tee Jackson's contract until 2009. We now a stuck with the burden of either buying his contract out or letting him continue wasting our money. The school employees have been told they were getting a raise, Tee Jackson was given that money by the commissioners-now you answer me why they did not get one-that is something that needs to change. He can basicly what he wants without having to answer to anyone.
To: Nov.12, 8:06, could you expand on what you think is Shameful please? Just need some clarification.
dm & donm are two different people - can't say that I disagree with dm - they're on target! Thanks!
don m
In response to Nov. 11, 8:57,
I agree in being my brother's keeper if he or she is an honest, law abiding person. I'm not out to alienate, embarass, or destroy anyone who does what they are elected to to in an honest, ethical way.
I, as a taxpayer, AM here to expose dishonesty in govt. and the school system.
Why do you feel this is wrong? Am I suppossed to sit back and just watch it all unfold before my eyes and do nothing about it? If America did this, where would we be now? Surely not a free nation!
Why do you feel it is so wrong to ask questions and make people accountable? Please give me a GOOD answer to my question?
Thank you.
Expose away then!
Our system can provide accountability, the Council simply doesn't enforce it. The problem is in the school system, not county wide. That makes the solution simple! If Jackson wants money for raises, make him create a separate dedicated fund for them. The council can deny any budget amendments without it! The substance abuse sloagan "JUST SAY NO" works! "Lie to the boss & you're out" is another that we haven't learned!
If Jackson has cooked the budget & comes back for another million or so in mystery money, the council can deny the budget amendment request to spend it! If he can't budget it, he doesn't need it. If he doesn't know what is happening (a plan) get someone who does, or better yet, put it in a rainy day fund.
The annual budget amendment process of adding a million or two here, there, & who knows where else ... every year immediately after the annual budget passes ... is ridiculous! That has become the foundation & icon of the school system - false witness & deceit! If that money isn't used for the intended purpose, then the lie is further compounded.
We're on shaky ground if the roof that we can't see on the pretty building we do see is leaking and ready to collapse.
Okay, let's get back to the topic, do we organize or not???
Mr. Barrett,
I definitely want to organize. I think people have been scared away from this blog due to someone stating that what we say will be traced back and we will all be sued. Therefore, I suggest that you offer a few dates, and we meet somewhere to form an agenda as to what we want to achieve as a group.
Many have stated their feelings here about the govt. and the school system, but it's time to meet as a group and get down to business. NO one can be sued for meeting as a group and deciding who can do what as committees are formed. Enough talking. It's time for action. Give us some dates to consider and let's just see how many people show up and are serious about what they say on here. I'm ready to get some surveys out there to the public and get an agenda moving.!!!!!!!!!
What a shameful thing. Who is this little group going to investigate and "expose" first??? May I call them muckrakers? Sinclair Lewis returns.
Yep, I'd like to know (as if I don't already) what this group's objectives are. Could one of your goals be to embarrass and humiliate those you don't particularly like? Are you EVER on a slippery slope?
We aren't on a slippery slope. The ones who are abusing their powers are the ones on a slppery slope. They haven't been held accountable.
ONe example, Mr. Jackson promised teachers a $1000 raise. We didn't get it last time, and now this time we are only getting about $850 of it. What is he doing with the rest of the money? Who knows. Was an audit ever done on the goings on at the HILL? I don't think so. He and Mr. Gonzales did many things that I"m sure were wrong, and we need to find out first of all, where all the money he asks for and gets every year, is going. This is only one example of many many things that I believe we could find wrong with his administration as well as the one at RHS.
This "little group" you are trying to insult wants to correct some things or at least expose them. What happens from there is up to the school board. We have a few who don't bow down to Mr. Jackson, as all did in the past board, and maybe we can get rid of the varmit.
I think Sameful is feeling his/hers toes being stepped on!
Yes, throw the bumbs out. Expose away!
We have a cancer in our government that threatens our very freedom! Yet, I look at the government's body and see beauty, competence, and folks who will do just about anything to do a good job and help just about anyone who needs it. Maybe it's just a dose of polyps. Why not whack them & move on?
Traditions of importance have overpowered those of traditional value. The ultimate insult of turning your back on someone was once called shunning. It was aimed at people to cast them out of society. There is a process of being nice to people to their face and shunning them the minute their back is turned. Today, the Council will be nice before the meetings, but their first official act is turning their back to the public; and then conducting public business in a manner where the public can neither hear or understand. Then, there are private meetings where the public is excluded. Public business is also routed to non council functions along with the power to make decisions that should be openly made by the council. Insult is added to injury with the official actions of telling the public they can't do anything about it. It gets worse when the public finds there is no penalty in the law; and the government that is paid to protect you is not going to protect you from itself! If that won't rub your fur backwards, noting will!
What should the people do? What if they all turned their back to the proceeding the minute it starts? I know some would be upset & get the message. Some like the last Council would be happy & try to write the process into Robert's rules. Some say it's as simple as motivating the person in charge of pointing the chairs in the right direct and turning the sound system on! It seems like the Council could do that with a motion. A thought occurs - If no one will make that judgment, then we need a judge ... A court order. Issuing a proclamation, "TURN THE CHAIRS AROUND! TURN THE SOUND ON!", would do the trick! All of a sudden, it becomes a matter of contempt, where the contemptible get to pay the fines and spend a bit of time on the inside looking out!
How can adults get in a situation this stupid? Can't you visualize a meeting with the public pointed in one direction, the council in the opposite direction, and the mistress of ceremonies in the middle trying to get everyone's attention! A good plot for the Three Stooges!
Don m
Because stupid is as stupid does. And down here, we all know Giles Countians don't have enough sense to come in out of the rain! Right?
Oh, the group now wants Janet's resignation. Wonder who will be next? Investigations will be forthcoming to be sure! Of course, this has nothing to do with being a sore loser but everything to do with public good, right?
lets see...janet v was voted back in, allen b was voted out...i think the public has spoken!
the statements made by the two post proves you are enablers also.
The posts prove that those like me who disagree with those like you are willing to be on here posting in spite of snide remarks made by those like you. Would you agree?
I have spoke with Mrs. Vanzant and she seems to be a very nice woman but that doesn't mean she is doing the job that she is suppose to be doing from the information that I have received she is not doing her job and from some of the statements she has made she doesn't think she is in the office for the public. So unless her thinking and attitude changes I don't feel she should remain in that office.
Mr. Barrett,
What response, if any, did you receive after making you statement to the commission and Vanzant?
I think your group should demand a full investigation immediately.
yes!! immediately
Laughable!
I agree!
When I said, "Yes!! Immediately ---" it was a joke.
That's good to hear my friend. It is laughable, isn't it?
I don't see any of this as laughable. I feel that we who stand up to the injustices of this county are comparable to the soldiers in Iraq right now who are dying for a cause that not too many Americans see fit to fight.
It's a crying shame that when people want to investigate wrong doings in govt. it is seen as laughable. You should be ashamed of your self. Your toes must have been "steepe on." HUH?
We aren't too stupid to step out of the rain, but our govt. is, and that is the reason for our dismay at all that is going on.
I am curious also as to the response Mr. Barrett received after making his statement at the meeting. I'd be willing to bet the farm that it wasn't a very intelligible one. I'd say the chairs were turned and the microphones weren't turned up and that he was treated like a soldier in Iraq.
Laughable? NO. Shameful? YES.
Yes, the whining and complaining is laughable and YOU are no soldier on the front lines of freedom.
Now, as for people who are not doing their jobs, I have always thought they should be disciplined or dismissed. What makes you think I would support ANYONE who is goofing off and not fulfilling the responsibilities of his/her job???? You inferred that; it was never implied!
My toes are just fine. Actually, they're kind of pretty. Oh, yes --Mr. Barrett (WAB) is very comparable to a soldier of today. He is soooooooooo smart!!
You too are being facetious, right?
If everyone in govt. were as concerned for the betterment of our county as Mr. Barrett we would be a lot better off.
To anonymous of Nov 21 @ 9:01...
Surely you are being facetious in that post! I mean...you can't be serious. His own district didn't vote for him.
I don't care for Mrs. Vanzandt, but I will say that all of the rejects in the county and on this post seem to enjoy each others company.
I doubt Mrs. Vanzant wants to see anyone "in court". The words of her own family would be enough to put her in prison.
Husband? But she claimed to voters to be a single mother. Now we discover she does have a husband. And Mr. Vanzant lurkes around the courthouse as if he owns it instead of lurking around the one in Lincoln County where he lives. We get tired of seeing him around the courthouse. And why doesn't Janet tell him to CLEAN UP for Pete's sake?
The question is why does she need a bodyguard? If Joe isn't careful he is going to get in way over his head. I hope I get to see it when somebody knocks him out for sticking his nose where it doesn't belong. Course his wife is his meal and insurance ticket. And I guess he would fight anyone to keep that security. From what I hear she always has been while he ???
Mr. Barrett keep on saying what the rest of us don't have the gumption to say, in public anyway.
I have finally figured out who "facetious" is and the reason of the staunch support of Vanzant!!
I do not necessarily support Mrs. Vanzant. How many times do I have to say that. I just do not go along with the griping and whining. Simple as that.
Is it gumption or idiocy?
I think a lot of us need to watch what we are saying on this blog.
"Facetious," I know full well the reason for your support. You have used the word facetious over and over on this blog and your everyday speech, so it wasn't too hard to figure out who you are!
I didn't say that I was a soldier on the front lines. Don't put words in my mouth.
I SAID, we who fight for what is right in govt. are comparable to those in Iraq whom are fighting, as we are, for a cause that most in this country and this town, do not see as worthy to fight.
NOW, once again, that is not laughable.
It is shameful that a small faction of people who are not in power want it so badly. And sir, THAT is laughable! You must think I am Allen Barrett because of my frequent use of the word, "facetious".
Small faction, not in power. That sounds a bit like Iraq too.
To Facetious: Nov. 22, 2006 2:24:19 PM, Wrong, I did NOT think you are Mr. Barrett and I would not insult him with thinking that, and I am not a sir, wrong again.
I read this blog often and no where on here have I read "that there is a small fraction that wants to run the county govt, but I have read that "many" want the current county executive to tell the truth and conduct herself in a professional manner and that should include her husband as well. YOU KNOW THE ONE SHE SUPPOSEDLY DOESN'T HAVE, now that is shameful and laughable.
You can bet your sweet *** I know who you are and why you are protesting anyone from looking into the county govt. One more thing, all over this blog is JUST AS MUCH WHINNING AND COMPLAINING BY YOU, as you are trying to protray others of doing. You are nothing more than a mole!
Wrong, anonymous. I am not on here whining. I'm on here pointing out that some are doing just that. Do you deny that there are those who would be "in charge" of things here if only they had the power? But they don't, and that makes them a bit irrelevant too, wouldn't you say?
And one more thing for you..... I don't care who questions county government. I have no interest in it, so I suppose that makes me an out-of-touch ignoramous. What I DO care about is the way some people on here call names and attempt to discredit and/or ruin the reputations of those they don't particularly like or agree with.
If Mrs. V. and Ms. Mc. have broken some laws they need to accept the consequences. However, that rule of thumb applies to everyone, doesn't it? So please do not imply that I am not in favor of fairness.
Even if they have violated some rule or regulation, who set these people up to be judge, jury, and executioners anyhow?
I think they are self-appointed.
So, you are admitting some have broken rules, regulations and the law?
To Nov. 6, Ms. McMasters wrote her own evaluation and the beginning questions were questions that she could have identified who answered by process of alimination. The teachers realized what she had done and gave her a good recommendation afraid she would figure who they were if were bad. So the evaluation is not valid.
Facetious, You are on here point out???? So, you think it is okay for you to "point out" but others are not justified to point anything OUT??? LAUGHABLE & SHAMEFUL...your words.
No, I don't agree that a "TAX PAYING CITIZEN OF GILES COUNTY IS IRRELEVANT" and that is an insane comment, but one I would expect you to make.
You said, "I don't care who questions county government, I have no interest in it??????? LAUGHABLE!! You are not fooling me one bit, planted facetious mole!
A planted Mole? Surely, you are being facetious again. So laughable. And, by the way, I admit nothing either pro or con about those you so gleefully want to persecute. I have no interest in or involvement with county government, so...again, you are wrong.
I'll say this one more time. If those your group seeks to eliminate from office have done ANYTHING wrong, they should be brought to justice. I just have a problem with your tactics.
Have a good Thanksgiving, and remember, God loves us all!
Facetious, I DO NOT belong to any group and never have been. Nor have I gleefully wanted to persecute anyone and you should realized that from my post to you. I am just as tired of your antics as you are with the "group." For the last time...I have never used the word "facetious" until you repeatedly used it to put the people that you disagree with down. You should go back and read all your past post and you can see how easy it was to identify you.
Oh, what's the use trying to match wits with you anyway. Take care . Remember, God loves us all. And that includes those you seem to have a problem with.
Please...I don't have a problem with anyone but you. You never give any facts to back-up your defensive nature, but soooo quick to use words like laughable, shameful and always the word facetious to blast the people that go to the meetings and search for the truth and justice that you claim you want. Please don't bring God into such behavior, just facts that proves the "group" wrong. As far as I can tell there is no group, yet.
Who are those that I have a problem with?
Never engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed person. That leaves just about everybody on here out of the battle. LOL LOL LOL
You are again being facetious, right? You don't need me to point out those you have a problem with. And I do not name names on here as some do. But hey, you know what, take your parting shot, because I am through with it. You win, ok? Maybe that will help your ego.
And judging me in terms of God is a low blow. You don't know my heart. Who made you judge anyhow?
So long, and try to get a life. Perhaps take up another hobby such as scrapbooking.
How many more times are you going to tell me you are through with me?? Sucker!
whoever you are your a mean person.
No, I am not mean, just feed up with "Facetious."
I noticed someone used the word Facetious on the blog about positives today too. What is the deal with using this word? Why don't you just say all of this is "funny or humerous"? Does it make you feel intelligent to use such a big word, because after reading your post on the Positive blog, I thought your wording was pretty poor. Poor grammar skills as well as putting your thoughts down in an unorganized manner--in other words, it was hard to understand exactly what you were trying to say. You are boring us with your Facetious word and it's not "funny" anymore. I think a lot of people on here are becoming fed up with your constant use of this word. Find a new one to thrill us with please.
Oh well, it's a free country, but thought you might want to know how irritaing it is to see that "word" on every post.
The irritating word you speak of i think was used a lot by allen barret.
The recent post were aimed at a blogger that always makes a smart-alec comment and them writes, "being facetious again" and it is not Allen Barrett.
Oh, a case of selective amnesia.
To Mr. Barrett,
Just over look the anonymous that brags about standing up to you. I’ve learned that the greater a person’s sense of guilt, the greater his or her need to cast blame on others.
Is that the same as the pot calling the kettle black? Come on, you can come up with something better than that....can't you? Who was bragging anyway?
To Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:31:06 PM, Who is bragging you ask? I will not do your reading for you, so, read the past post and you can identify the anonymous blogger that brags about “standing up to Mr. Barrett.”
Yes, I can come up with something better and that is, sign your name as Mr. Barrett does if you are going to attack him, otherwise butt out!
Is this or is this not a free speech blog. And does the blogmaster allow anonymous postings or not? If you aren't happy with that, why not set up your own site?
You should show some common decency and sign your name when you are personally attacking any individual that is signing his/her name. That's all!
Some people have to be anonymous on this blog because they no by telling the truth or just asking the wrong thing can cause them alot of trouble. Then their is this one person who makes stupid attacks on everbody about almost everthing then hides behind anonymous because he is a coward to tell who he is. Cowards and bullys never do nothing unless they can hide behind something.
Tc,
I agree with you.
That's largely true tc, but there's another old saying that says something to the effect that fools' names like fools' faces oft appear in public places.
And...common decency doesn't seek to belittle others, does it?
So I guess you staying anonymous means you are trying to do everone a favor by staying anonymous and not have a fool's name and face appear in public. You sure are a thoughtful person to make such sacrafices for everbody. Only problem is your words is what makes you look like a fool.
HUH? I read your post through a couple of times and have no idea what you mean. Is a person a fool because he or she has valid reasons for not giving a name? Or, is that person a fool because he or she disagrees with people like you? Either way, it's really not nice to call people names.
12-3-6
If you disagree with the right to have free and open government (sunshine law), the obligation of government to answer to the people, and a government of the people, by the people, and for the people ... then you are a fool. If you disagree with the right and obligation of the people to take individual actions to insure a free and open government, you are a fool. If you think that taking those actions are petty and without great personal sacrifice, you are a fool. If you simply want a government to run your life for you, meet in secrecy, and make you support whatever they want - you become a threat to freedom!
Those threats are very isolated, but real. If you don't take positive steps to remove negative threats, life "ain't gonna' be good"! Identifying and removing problems is not negativity. It's very positive for the community, yet seldom rewarding for those who make it happen! You who call them whiners, arrogant, meddlers, and worse, were not man handled and jailed because you opened the closed "public meetings" of the school board and the county commission. Were you were sitting with the "persecution"?
The 2005-6 $1.5 million and 2006-7 $1.9 million school property tax increase denials represents $3.4 million of property tax increases that didn't happen in Giles County! Add automatic state matching funds of more than double the property tax; and, we have a whopping $10+ million of state & local taxes that didn't happen! In spite of all of that, the "Hydra's" cup runneth over with millions more to spend in both years! And, of that which spills hither and yon, none reaches the real passers of wisdom! Amazing! This is a better place because of all the fighting & fussing. Yes, we are morally and financially richer because it. I appreciate what has happened.
Old saying: "If you hear a gnawing sound in the corn crib, you eliminate the rat." It seems like you want to let him move from one corn crib to another! The fat rat is contrary to the flat rat theory. don m
Oh wow, thanks for those gems of wit. You know what, the terrorists in Iraq are doing their best to overthrow a government they don't like as well. Would you say their are justified in their efforts? I NEVER said I was against government accountability in the first place. But the best democratic way to resolve your disapproval of those who are elected to govern us is by voting them out.
By the way, it wasn't me who went to the meeting and showed the proverbial rear end! And you call people like me a fool?
Here is another good old saying. Some people wouldn't be happy if you hanged them with a new rope.
As I have said before, We have some of the finest elected and civil servants in the country and you can't name an area where that isn't true. We also have a very isolated pocket of significant corruption.
My comments were stated as, "if" you stand for certain things. I expected you to say you were no fool. Calling yourself a fool doesn't change your real motive.
No one is being blown up on the square, kidnapped, beheaded, or any of the other insane things terrorists do. "The little group" isn't trying to overthrown the government. None of it has anything to do with corruption or the fact that the corruption will end. The sky isn't falling; but, the big black cloud & thunder you hear is saying, you better get out from under the money tree, or a big bolt of lightening is gonna' get you.
The $3.4 million in turned down tax increases is only a part of the puzzle. The millions in spending amendments during that same time period, teachers screaming for the raises they didn't get, sand castles on drawing boards, people voting to fund raises for themselves, and much more are signs of a broken pot, not a scattered puzzle. It's time to fix it, not throw chaff to the wind! I don't want to know who you are - you may wake up and be the person who solves the problem. don m
PS - We didn't get to vote for Jackson! The people did vote on Mr. G - & that is a sad comment - a great talent wasted by pomp & circumstance
Nobody is denying any truths here, and my argument is NOT with your opinions. Some people just don't like the WAY you come across. Simple as that.
But isn't it frustrating when you know all the answers and nobody really asks you the questions? Further, do you consider that the real art of communication is not only to say the right thing at the right time, but also to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the most tempting moment? Just some food for thought.
Don,
Can you not see why Mrs. Vanzant didn't want your "free" services?
Incredibly shallow and malnourished? You sir, are a legend in your own mind! And your arrogant way of dealing with me (and others) is EXACTLY why I continue to take issue with you. I could care less about your truths and opinions or who may be right or wrong. If I could make that any clearer, I would gladly do so. And please don't say that I am the first and only one who has tried to call this to your attention. We both know better.
Big boy is back...standing up to the man, WOW!
You bet. But you just don't get it, do you?
to the anonymous crank
One thing that is clear from your post is that you are an idiot. Actually an idiot lacks the capacity for understanding, you likely have the capacity to understand but choose not too, that makes you much worse than an idiot, it makes you stupid. To have no concern for the truth or untruth of a matter simply because you dislike the messenger is incredibly stupid. I wonder how you would respond if Mr Barrett banged on your door to announce your house was on fire. Would you ignore him because you dislike him or would you haul your butt out before you burned it?
You speak of Mr Barrett as being arrogant toward you. I must say that he has been far more patient and pleasant with you than I would have been. Have you considered that perhaps you feel people are talking down to you because there is no other way to get across to you? It is you that has shown the arrogance you condemn.
As another poster stated, “you are a coward” in the way you have personally attacked people then hidden behind the anonymous label. Calling you a coward is actually a slander to the word coward. You need to give it a rest or come up with a new song.
Would you allow a stupid idiot like me to help you if you were suddenly bitten by a copperhead with no other means of treatment available?
from your ramblings, I wonder if the snake might help, if bitten by you.
Probably so, since we are splitting hair here.
I just thought of something. You and I should be commended for keeping what's left of this blog alive. If we were not on here volleying back and forth, it would most likely die a natural death....no snake bites needed. So, why don't we stop and see what happens?
Big boy is hiding and stupid!
You are so silly. So much so that I won't even try to match wits with an imbecile.
Two can play the name-calling game, right?
Did you realize that you and I are the only ones posting on this blog anymore? I am going to stop, so you can correspond with yourself.
Bye now.
I haven't been on this blog in a long time, but after reading the back and forth comments, I have come to the conclusion that someone out there has a real problem with Mr. Barrett, and I'm afraid this person is capable of actually breaking the law because he/she is so angry. My goodness, what would make a person so angry against another?? Is it that Mr. Barrett knows something? Or is it that this anonymous person is just crazy? It is surely embarrassing to read such dialouge.
The hatred I read disgusts me. I don't think there would be such hatred written unless the anonymous blogger writing about him has something to hide. What is it? Someone enlighten me as to what on Earth is going on here? I admire Mr. Barrett just because he signs his own name. Why doesn't the person who hates him so much do the same? Or better yet, why doesn't the person who hates him so much just call him up and you two discuss your differences by phone and get them out of the way so we don't have to read your hatred toward him on this post. He is not a coward from what I have seen and read. He fought the school board and even went to court over what they did to him. I admire that. Too many of us, me included, hide from those we are afraid of, but not Mr. Barrett. You go man! I love what you try to do for the citizens of this county. Don't be discouraged by the above idiots. I can tell by their spelling that they don't have too much in that brain for theirs.
There are many bloggers who feel the way you call the "one" about Mr. Barrett. I agree that Mr. Barrett could do a lot of good, if he just learned how to communicate without coming across as superior. By the way, many more people feel the way I do than you, or he would have easily been elected to the County Commission.
EXACTLY!
One might think that the anonamouse has an inferiority complex, unable to understand words with over three letters & overwhelmed by presence of morality. Anymouse is petrified by the prospect of being exposed for what he is. You see, anyonymouse isn't simply any mouse, he's one of the rats who wants to deny you your democracy, pick your pocket, & strut around like a head rooster.
Questions of the day -
1) How much was the Jackson 2005-6 school spending over their 2005-6 budget?
2) How much is the Jackson 2006-7 school spending over their "no increase budget" passed by the old council - right now?
If you don't know, take a guess.
don m
Tell us, oh enlightened one?
Touchy, touchy, wiggle, wiggle / someone must have touched a raw nerve ending
Why don't you pray for me then...That I become more enlightened?
I think Mister Jackson is a nice man! If he says there was no increases then i belive him. Stop picking on him!
He may be a nice man, but since you like him will you please ask him what he has done in the last two years with the money that was appropriated for raises for the school system employees? I do not consider asking tough questions picking on someone.
But smearing the names of those we do not particularly like or agree with IS a bullying tactic, wouldn't you say?
The bullies have smeared his name. He cut his budget every year. He gave everybody raises. If somebody didn't get a raise they were not doing their job.
And it's very shameful. Nobody would like to be treated that way. But does a true bully care? Not a chance.
And Giles County has its share of wannabe bullies.
Shame isn't the word for it! All of the teachers and suport people adore him, except one or two rabble rousers who wouldn't be happy anywhere. my goodness, what would we do without him?
To Tuesday, December 12, 2006 8:52:44 PM
They all did get raises this year, but again I ask what happened to the money for the raises that were approved for the two previous years? This is not about who likes him or who doesn't its about is he doing his job? I agree that name calling does not accomplish anything and it is just a tactic used to slander someone. You can accomplish things more effectly by have debates without name calling.
Wednesday, December 13, 2006 10:35:47 AM-you can not speak for all of those people unless you have asked each and everyone personally. You see part of the problem in this world today is we try and speak for each other without actually knowing what or how others actually feel about something. Everyone has their own opionions on what we would do without him-mine is we would possibly find someone who could do a whole lot better job-just my opinion!
Debate without name-calling on this blog? You have got to be kidding.
No I'm not kidding, and if instead of replying to name callers, others would just ignore them they probably would get tired of posting to themselves. Alot of them do it just to get a kick out of calling someone else names. Remember when you were a kid and get into those name calling contests-it made you feel big to come up with a better name that the other guy.
Wednesday, of December 13, 2006 10:35:47 AM, Who do you think you are fooling by making the statement that “all teachers and support workers love him?”
Obliviously you didn’t attend the commission meeting the night the teachers representative spoke along with another citizen. There was standing room only because so many teachers were there to protest not getting the raises that the county commission had passed twice.
Your post is so blatantly clear!
You are all a bunch of whiners. I know who he is & he was sent here to do good for Giles Co. Those folks gathered in those wimpy meetings are all hired by an employment agency just to make him look bad. He's the most dignified man in Giles County - stop all this nonsense fussing & get real!
You need to get a life, those people as you state are real people who are upset about how he is handling his job. I was told today he is already asking for more money! Diginified people do not lie.
Hey, guess what? I understand the teachers got a raise in their checks today. In fact, it was retroactive six months.
Wonder if the whiners will find fault with that?
I'll wager that they will join al gore in protesting the rights of the trees that were slain in order to make the paper for the checks.
Don't say Mister Jaksin is a liar - he's the nicest man in Giles County!
When you tell people one thing and then turn around and don't do it is that not a lie? They did get a raise but yet again it was not what had been promised!!!! Nice doesn't make someone a good person or even a good leader nic is just nice. I know people who seem to be the nicest people in the world until you turn your back and you can't see what they really do. Are you saying the school system employees should be grateful for what they should have gotten and deserved years ago?
Once again, does anyone know how much Jackson is over or under the 2005-6 budget? Are we over or under the no increase 2006-7 budget? Jackson told us in the last council meeting that he had cut the budget, reduced spending, & worked real hard, etc., if I remember correctly. Do we even want to know?
What have you been told by published financial statements, directly by school officials & their board, by the council & their meetings, & the local new media?
don m
To, Thursday, December 14, 2006 12:34:56 PM
You said, “Those folks gathered in those wimpy meetings are all hired by an employment agency just to make him look bad.”
You are out of your mind if you really believe that!!! I attended the meeting and I will name some of the teachers I saw there, and they are not wimpy or hired by an agency, but, by the Giles County Education System. I saw Martha Smith from Richland, Connie Campbell from Minor Hill, Mr. and Mrs., Jackie Smith from Giles County and many, many more. Your comment that these teachers, along with all the other teachers that were in attendance are hired by an agency to make Mr. Jackson look bad, IS NOTHING BUT A LIE!! You are the one that needs to get real.
You losers are just mad because everyone loves Mister Jackdson & nobody loves you! He's here to stay & if you don't like it, just move on over or out! He's my man! He's dignified & doesn't go whining around everybody trying to stir up trouble!
I have talked with Mr. Jackson and find him to be a person of style and good manners. Even when asked about the complainers, he had nothing negative to say. He's a better man than I would be under those circumstances!
You can’t dispute my statement, so you call me a loser? Where is your dignity?
Because you lose everytime & Jackson wins everytime. He's got friends in high places. You got none.
I heard school wages are up 26% in 3 years! If so, teachers are getting rich.
Who would belive that? What if its true? Is it another smear campaign? Please, someone tell me!
Who knows? I think the "freedom fighters" group should launch an immediate investigation into the matter. Something sinister may be going on. How dare those teachers to start making decent pay!
What if the teachers are supplementing their incomes by working part-time jobs after school? This must be investigated, and any who are found guilty must be exposed. How dare them!
The last thing we need is investigating going on in our schools! We need learning, not investigating. All we hear is questions & snooping & looking into this, that, & something else. That isn't what education is all about, is it!
Nibble, nibble, nibble with questions, trying to learn something, find out what's happening, know something - always nipping at someone's heels. Question the education system & wanting answers to things that are none of their business. Ask not, nor discuss what, It might make someone uncomfortable.
It's like these people have nothing better to do than to snoop and try to discredit and embarrass anyone....other than themselves. But, in their minds, they KNOW they are right and that they somehow are morally justified in doing so, albeit self-appointed. And I will say it again....That's a pure shame.
To them I would say....Thanks, but NO thanks for being the watch dogs of truth and justice and champions of the "little" man. I can take care of my own business and live my life without their interventions.
Doggone right! People have no right to question elected people! They were elected to do what they stand for and whatever they please. If you don't like it, elect someone else next time there is an election. If you don't like what they do, why did you vote for them. They have a right to appoint anyone they want to get the job done the way they want to! Snoopers only make trouble. You will never get educated is you keep investigating and asking questions! School is a place to get told what to do, and that costs a lot of money. Get real!
That is one of the most stupid comments I have heard in a long time!
I think people have every right to question elected officials. We all should agree with that. But do they have the right to call them names and make mean and derogatory statements about them in a public forum? I think not.
You have to turn the other cheeck to the people who know more than you do so they can do more of what they do to you. It is for your own benefit. They do all the work. All you do is whine except when you are calling them nasty names. How would you like to be called a tyrant when you are doing without so much protecting the school's way of life.
To use a tired cliche, are you being facetious?
What in the world is a clitche? Is it something to do about tireants or whiners?
I would suggest that you look the word up in the dictionary. The word is CLICHE, with accent on the e.
Is a tireant one that clings to the sidewall or one stuck on the bottom of the tread?
Ain't so - its "cli" as in climb ending with "chi" as in Chicago also as in two bricks "shi" of a load. Maybe "she" as in shebob.
pronounced phonetically ...klee-shay.
Trying to educate this anonymous jerk is like trying to teach a rock to sing. Actually the rock has a greater ability to pay attention and respond appropriately.
Name-calling is so unbecoming of a lady.
Marge,
Do you not think individuals who talk down to others in an arrogant manner are jerks as well? Most people tend to think they are.
There's an old saying that goes something like this (paraphrasing here)....A man is only presumed to be stupid until he opens his mouth and removes all doubt.
Here we go again. The idiot in the well speaks or is it speekes, removing all doubt except in his own mind. Mr. Barrett can't talk up to you when you are way down there! Give him & the rest of a break - climb out or tie a rock on your foot.
(Don't get mad margie - you probably have what the rest of us don't have - a brain. If I had an ex, it would probably be a good teacher who lost her mind trying to find mine)-
Riddler, you are incredibly funny..or shall I say humorous?
Marge,
I've been advised by Mr. Barrett that I had attacked you in the above post. And, in reading it again, I can see where he might have arrived at the wrong conclusion.
My remark about one being presumed to be stupid and then removing all doubt when he opens his mouth was NOT directed at you. I was referring to people who condescend to those they disagree with, presuming their ignorance of the facts, etc.
The accusation bothered me, and I wanted to clear it up with you.
Merry Christmas.
I just got on this post tonight, and I am absolutely shocked at the person who thinks Mr. Jackson is a wonderful, dignified man who is so easy to talk to you. You even mention his style. My gosh, are we paying for someone who dresses stylish? Are you a family member or a mistress? I swear, you sound like you may be his wife or other famly memeber. The man is so arrogant that it makes me sick and most teachers would agree. You say leave the county if you don't like him?????????? You have to be kidding me. The man isn't from here and WE are supposed to leave the county? The man should have been booted out of here a long time ago. The only people I know that like him are about 3 board members who kiss his tail to keep their children hired on in the system. Otherwise, the man is not liked at all. Just this fall during General Sessions, in which all teachers of the county are required to attend for inservice credit, Mr. Jackson got almost no recognition when he addressed the teahers-- I mean, almost no one clapped for him. It's very obvious that the teachers have no respect for him, and that is why they showed up in large numbers at the board meeting. To think that you have the gall to suggest that these teachers were hired by a temporary job placement service is not even laughable. You are one weird person who must be from another planet. I am shocked at your statements.
The teachers of this county want aonther Director of Schools. We want someone who we can talk to withougt being looked down upon. And, by the way, our raise wasn't $1,000 as promised. That is another story though that I'll save for later. I am greateful for wheat I got, but it wasn't what was promised.
Signed, one RICH teacher!
Sorry for the mispelling at the end of the last post-- don't want to look like a dumb teacher. Guess I was still in shock as I finished my post.
WAB
What did you just say above??????? Interpret that if you would. Are you the Riddler or the Joker?
The main problem people have with the truth as you call it is that you think you are the one who has the it and nobody else.
To the anonymous teacher...
I didn't write the post you are referring to, and I am neither family member nor mistress of Mr. Jackson. In fact, I'm neither friend nor foe. Suggesting that Mr. Jackson has a mistress is a very dangerous charge. Do you realize the harm that can do?
Secondly, style is not in the clothes one wears but rather in the way a person conducts self.
You call Mr. Jackson arrogant, and he may well be. I don't know. But when you use the word arrogant on this blog to describe those who truly are, you are inviting ridicule for sure.
Finally, I am on your side and hope you get all the benefits your job as a professional would demand.
You all are picking on Mr. Jackson. Maybe he would be nice to you if you were nicer to him. You are supposed to love your neighbor, turn the other cheek, and help him in his mission.
If you don't like it here, move! If you don't like the fine way the schools operate, vote for someone else in a couple of years when they run again. Mr. Jackson is appointed so he can do the right thing without being voted out by a bunch of crazy misguided citizens!
So true!
Mr. Barrett - There you go being Mr. Smarty-Pants again. (I'm name-calling.) "If you have trouble understanding...." blah, blah, blah
Just reply without acting like people are stupid and have to have someone help them read or understand something.
But he earlier said that would not be name-calling. You were just describing his behavior...hahahahahaha
Wrong yet again, Mr. Barrett. I am not the same person who posted and "described your behavior" as Mr. Smarty Pants. I just had to clarify his/her misunderstanding of what constitutes name-calling.
Allow me to put a different twist (spin) on the shoes thing. If the shoe fits, try not to wear it anymore.
Am I to now understand that you are getting down to "my level" by attempting to teach me the basics of spelling? How commendable of you. We are life-long learners, aren't we?
Bubbles, bubbles & more bubbles spewing from the well. We need to get this jerk a pair of elevator shoes or stilts.
I'm the one who called you "Mr. Smarty-Pants" and I should have posted as "Citizen" instead of the horrific "Anonymous." Sorry. Sorry, wrong again Mr. Bare it.
You call me a jerk because I don't go along with your hero? Is that not just a teeny-weeny bit shallow of you, especially on a free speech blog?
bubbles from the well, Your leash secures you to your delusion. It keeps the grass worn down around the well you hide in. We can't help but speak down to you. We see not even two beady little eyes in your chasm of darkness. We don't hate you - simply feel sorry for someone destined to speak in bubbles, because he fears sunshine more than the deepness of the well.
who are we?
12-21-6 Who are we - who are you? Who, Who, Who cries the wise old owl.
Is it a conscience that keeps heads throbbing? BUT, first ... More learnin' ... Snoopin' in the corners & crevices ...
Aunt Maude refers us to the ant colony, beginning with the beginning & ending with the ending. Ignore Ant was either too lazy or didn't know what to do. Pretend Ant made everyone think he knew what was happening, but did nothing but get in the way. Attend Ant made sure things got done. Of course there was K. Ant and Command Ant. Defend Ant is on the wrong side of right. Legit Ant tries to move Defend Ant back to the right side of right, and so forth. The little fellers scurried hither & yonder, sweeping the streets & keeping things squeaky clean and straight. However, with just a little thought, we can all see that the ant colony was living on a banana peel.
All worked well until an ant latched on the tire of a north bound bus that stopped off for a whiz break at the ant colony. Tire Ant was tired of spinning around endlessly and accomplishing nothing. Some say the rocking' & rolling' over the road affected his attitude. All he learned how to do was spin. It was time for him to take charge, apply all the wisdom he could remember, and make things happen for him. It was time for Command Ant to move over to follow in the tracks of Tire Ant. Discipline by Zero Taller Ant & Conform Ant replaced scurrying & spiffying things up. Would the streets of shiny gold turn to mud and mold? Should we do something negative to Tire Ant? Should we be positive by not doing something negative to Tire Ant? Will the colony realize that Tire Ant will positively do negative things to the colony because he is positively a negative ant. Are we positively sure positive thoughts eliminate the negativity of negative deeds? Is sweeping the street not worth the negative affects on that which we wish to sweep off the street?
I think the "freedom fighters" group should demand a full investigation into the goings-on of Tire Ant. He MUST be exposed!
P.S. Perhaps you are Whiney Ant?
Gosh, where is the Riddler when we need him to solve this ant caper?
Maybe Tire Ant in reality is the Riddler in disguise? It's worth an investigation, wouldn't you think?
more bubbles from the well
all of the Ants should be immediately and thoroughly investigated by the little group of Wanna Bees! and when the Bees dont find anything, maybe they can just fabricate stories about all the Ants they dont like and post them. no wait, that's already the buzz. guess they will have to devise another plan of action.
Hey, you are almost as good as the Riddler in spinning a tale. I think you have it right though.
Even if the Wanna Bees can't find anything wrong with the Ant family, they will keep digging until they find something (nothing good of course) that THEY feel should be shared with the entire animal kingdom.
They will sting as long as it takes to get their venom injected into the minds of as many onlookers as they can, hoping to turn the masses against the entire Ant klan. When and if their goal is achieved, they will "take over" the klan and tell them how they should live their lives and what they should think from that day forward. And the Wanna Bees lived happily ever after, because they knew they were smarter and knew what was best for the Ant family.
The Wanna Bees must be a strange breed. They never produce any honey. Their buzz produces only vinegar. Hmm, maybe they're somehow akin to flies, which as we all know are just annoying.
You're not in danger - can't poison that which is burned out. You've had one mushroom too many!
Flies annoying you? Cut a hole in the seat of your pants and the flies will stay away from you face!
Don't no how many still read other parts of this blog but wab has posted a very interesting item about the spring deal and why mrs janet changed her mind about the spring deal.
The head bone lost control of the tongue bone! It's one of the symptoms of advanced liberalism). There is a reason no one listens to you.
Could y'all quit talking about bees and ants, please?
Before belittling the bee beholders beware of the bee behind you before he bites your behind. Aunt Bea agrees!
Behold:: Merry Christmas!!!
You bee stupid!
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