Giles Free Speech Zone

The purpose of the "Giles Free Speech Zone" is to identify problems of concern to the people of Giles County, to discuss them in a gentlemanly and civil manner, while referring to the facts and giving evidence to back up whatever claims are made, making logical arguments that avoid any use of fallacy, and, hopefully, to come together in agreement, and find a positive solution to the problem at hand. Help make a difference! Email "mcpeters@usit.net" to suggest topics or make private comments.

Thursday, March 15, 2007

Parking Problem on the Square is Solved???

According to the County Executive and a few County Commissioners there is nothing that can be done about people parking on the courthouse lawn or sidewalks! The issue of parking motorcycles on the sidewalk next to the Courthouse was raised at the Property Committee Meeting on March 12, 2007, it was met with smiles and exasperated expressions of frustration summed up by the County Executive’s statement, “there’s nothing we can do about it”.


The question comes to mind, if the County Executive and the County Commission have no power to create and enforce laws, rules and regulations, what exactly are they there for? Are we now to believe that the sheriff can only “suggest” people not smoke in the courthouse, carry weapons inside or behave in an orderly manner?


Will the average citizen be allowed to park on the Courthouse lawn like Courthouse officials and their staff or will this be another example of citizens separated from benefits and privileges enjoyed by their employees? Is this just another example of the divide that exists between “them that got and them that don’t got?” Allen Barrett

109 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can not believe it. I thought this would never happen. Trimhed, I agree with you. Yes, I said it. I agree with you. Now for a solution. Level the Hunter-Smith building and make it a permit parking area only.

Thursday, March 15, 2007 10:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For sure if a member of the general peon public parked on the courthouse sidewalk or lawn, we would be towed away and you can bet Vanzant would be the one to make the call to the cops.

Friday, March 16, 2007 11:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Barrett (aka reporter Barrett)...
Can you not see that YOU are among the few who are creating the division around here? It's almost as bad as the hate-mongering perpetuated by clinton-gore.
And it's not so much a question of the have and the have nots, but rather a question of the wannabes and those who are in charge.

Friday, March 16, 2007 7:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous 3-16, 5:16 pm
You choose to belittle Mr Barrett rather than face the issue. What he's saying is "those in charge" are not, and need to do their job.

Friday, March 16, 2007 7:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Tom..
How about responding to the first statement about WHO is among those causing the division in this county?
The root of all this hatred and distrust is found in the jealousy and resentment of the "impotent" group who knows best and who would take charge if they could get the votes needed to succeed. The problem is that they can't, and that's what infuriates them.
Oh, what tangled webs we weave!

Friday, March 16, 2007 7:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

By the way, is the "issue" again about the motorcycle being parked o0n the courthouse lawn? I thought that was talked to death on another thread? No?

Friday, March 16, 2007 7:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

54400 (looser)
Mirror mirror on the wall
from off your bed
you did fall
kerplop on your head
and now we hear you squall

Friday, March 16, 2007 8:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Riddler...
Did you mean "loser", as in one who loses or "looser, as in one who sets something loose? I'm sure you did that just top throw us off. Very clever of you!

Saturday, March 17, 2007 6:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't critize Mr. Barrett. It appears the ones parking where they should not are the ones trying to get a stink started. If they would park where they should there would be no problem. No one should park on the lawn of our beautiful courthouse. Can't Vanzant just have a NO PARKING ON THE GRASS sign and let the law officials take over from there. It seems like a simple solution to me.

Saturday, March 17, 2007 10:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous 3-17, 8:53 am
Exactly. Well written.

Saturday, March 17, 2007 11:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If our County Executive and commisioners can not handle a simple parking problem, how can they be trusted to handle important issues of our county?

Saturday, March 17, 2007 12:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The cops are too busy talking on their cell phones to do anything about it.

Saturday, March 17, 2007 9:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't do anything about it? How about this, TCA 55-8-160, regarding parking, section (1) "On a sidewalk; provided a bicycle, etc." This guy drives and parks on the sidewalk, all illegal. It is a county problem becuase it is county property, not the cities problem.

Saturday, March 17, 2007 10:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey WAB, usually I don't see eye to eye with you, but I' with you on this one. Here's another...how about the chief of police being instructed by the mayor not to enforce state traffic laws regarding those vehicles that park in the middle of N. 1st St.? Not delivery trucks, but people going shopping. What's the difference?

Sunday, March 18, 2007 12:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For those of you who do not know this....The courthouse,lawns and sidewalk surrounding the courthouse are county property... laws enforced by Sheriff's department.

The streets surrounding the lawns and sidewalk of the courthouse and businesses are city property... laws enforced by the Pulaski Police department.

Sunday, March 18, 2007 8:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So if the County Exec can't be forceful enough to get courthouse employees to comply, what's wrong with the sheriff stepping in? Does this say something about our weak county officials?

Monday, March 19, 2007 1:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Parking on the courthouse lawn and/or sidewalks shows total lack of respect for the citizens of Giles Co.
Wonder what Speer would do if someone parked in front of the city hall doorway on the sidewalk?

Monday, March 19, 2007 3:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Allen - excellent comment!!

Monday, March 19, 2007 7:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Easy now WAB, that's a Honda Goldwing being parked on the lawn and sometimes on the sidwalk, not a Harley. Don't give Harley's a bad rep here.

Monday, March 19, 2007 8:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speer would never let it happen. He is more intelligent.

Monday, March 19, 2007 9:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

speer is an idiot

Tuesday, March 20, 2007 8:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Folks, doesn’t anyone but me realize that by continuing to post here, or respond to WAB and McPeters in anyway only perpetuates this idiot blog? If we stop feeding the cancer, it will not grow. Let’s let it die the death is deserves.

Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good-bye again Anonymous!

Tuesday, March 20, 2007 10:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think anonymous is correct. Matching wits with these "Einsteins" only feeds their already-inflated egos.

Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

62400 & 104500 If you two half wits get together & come up with a plan, do you think you'll be able to come up with a "hole" wit plan? 1/2 times 1/2 = 1/4. Work on it & be thorough & cover all factors - let us know what it is,next year.

Wednesday, March 21, 2007 7:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boldly placed upon the grass
sits a big old motorcycle
to wonderment of all who pass
someone will be in a pickle

move it away by noon today
pray say, stay in way it can't
say nay you'll stay away
fine not mine Ms. VanZant

Wednesday, March 21, 2007 8:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has the poetry contest begun?

Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yep yep yep the parking is solved now. i seen a pd officer marking tires the other day on the square. now thats a job for our pd to do instead of protecting and fighting crime.

Thursday, April 05, 2007 9:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the reporter needs to do a feature story on marking tires. That would give hime something to do besides stir up trouble.

Friday, April 06, 2007 9:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're an idiot indeed. Is that supposed to be funny? You are making fun of an officer who was obviously trying to do something about the same problem that you were bitching about, yet you make fun. If this doesn't prove you will never be satisfied with anything, nothing proves it.

Saturday, April 07, 2007 8:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

83800 You're offended cause you're off-ended - idiot is probably the only word you heard until you wandered away from home - do people stare at you?

Saturday, April 07, 2007 9:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous, are you pissed at WAB's post or are you pissed that you can't get the chalk off?
I'm suprised Vanzant did'nt have our sheriff doing it.

Saturday, April 07, 2007 9:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are not my reporter wab.

Saturday, April 07, 2007 9:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think it is interesting how WAB put the word "reporter" in quotation marks. Interesting...

Saturday, April 07, 2007 11:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I once was reading something you posted on here, WAB, and you quoted yourself as "this reporter" when you were talking about the issue at hand. But now, you say, "that is your identification for me not mine". Which is it? Do you call yourself a reporter or not?

Saturday, April 07, 2007 1:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

haha now thats some funny stuff your majesty. who cares what wab calls himself...i dont. he got some good and interesting things here. sometimes the truth hurts, huh? the one about the tire markings...funny. still laughing. ya know lighten up a little take your zanax and relax a little and enjoy life. maybe all your health problems will be solved and your b/p will go down and we all can be happy again. find something else to complain about, you can rest assured there are plenty of things to complain about other than a name.

Saturday, April 07, 2007 4:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No sir, the truth doesn't bother me one bit, but arrogance and cockiness in people is so frustrating. Doesn't that bother you a little?
By the way, what has happened to the "reporter"? We haven't been getting his written gems of wit and brilliance lately?

Saturday, April 14, 2007 4:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would imagine the man just got fed up with some of the continual nagging and whining from anonymous and just decided to let us be lazy and stupid. I hope if that's true he'll change his mind and realize how much he is needed in this county. Please come back wab.

Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are you suggesting that he's off somewhere pouting? You mentioned continuous nagging and whining from anonymous. There were many more than one anonymous, so that dog don't hunt.
Do you honestly think he will not show up as a "reporter" at the next county commissioners' meeting? Surely you are smarter than that.

Sunday, April 15, 2007 8:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why would WAB not show up at the April 16 county commission meeting, unless he has family obligations or sick or something. OK, so Vanzant has wangled a court order stopping ANYONe from sitting in the jury area (even though its not the judge's perogative to make decisions for the commissioners, still he can make a report and film of the meeting to share with folks on this blog. And we should be beholden to him for taking time to do this. Maybe at the May commissioners meeting some of the commissioners will challenge vanzant for getting this court order. IF THEY DON'T. THEN IT WILL TELL YOU A LOT ABOUT THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION AND THEIR ATTITUDE TOWARD THE PUBLIC.

Sunday, April 15, 2007 10:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the anonymous that wrote "No sir, the truth doesn't bother me one bit." After reading several of your postings I find it very easy to believe your statement that "the truth doesn't bother you one bit" problem is you don't pay any attention to truth at all.

Sunday, April 15, 2007 5:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So incredibly laughable to "suggest" that any one of us who post anonymously are indifferent to the "truth" as you call it. You know that truth is a relative term and, more often than not, subject to interpretation. Just because my perspective on the truth doesn't align itself with yours, I am asleep at the wheel?

Sunday, April 15, 2007 5:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Excuse me for butting in but no anonymous truth is not a relative term. It only becomes relative by what one does with it. I read your posts and the comments by both you and Mr Barrett concerning the statement you made that you were not concerned with the truth only that you disliked Mr Barrett's attitude and personality.
Here's a truth that you might ponder a person who tries to take every side on every issue ends up very confused, frustrated and without any principles to live by.
Therein lies the problem with you no firm principles on which to stand.

Sunday, April 15, 2007 7:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I still dislike wab's demeanor, and am not so concerned with his truths. I think for myself and don't need his input. And, yes, truth is a very relative term when it comes to the little whiner's group in Giles County. I'll take that a step further and say that truth therefore becomes ambiguous and elusive.
I am one of many who sees truth differently than do the "enlightened" ones. That makes me wrong and narrow-minded, right? That proves my point that truth is relative, doesn't it?

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 4:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The bored of education forked tongue sees truth as ambiguous, elusive, relative, and non existant. Truely a worthless being.

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous of 4:12. Do you ever bother to read what you are writing
surely you are not the only one who can see how very dumb some of
your statements are.
Your statement, "I am one of many who sees truth differently than do the "enlightened" ones. That makes me wrong and narrow-minded, right? That proves my point that truth is relative, doesn't it?" is simply amazing. The only thing that it really proves is that you are full of stupidity.

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess I'm going to have to agree with anonymous who said "I am one of many who sees truth differently than do the "enlightened" ones." I too see truth differently. I don't see the number one as the number 1, I see it as the # 1. I don't see the color blue as the color blue, I see it as the color that's not red. Wait a second, I agreed with the wrong person, I meant to agree with Howard when he said "The only thing that it really proves is that you are full of stupidity." Sorry for the confusion I may have caused.

Thursday, April 19, 2007 12:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are sorry!

Thursday, April 19, 2007 5:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funny Blue...
Allow me to help you with your confusion. The color you refer to is actually an azure shade of blue.
I don't think you are stupid because you didn't know better. No, I have more poignant reasons for believing that! You are truly hilarious.

Thursday, April 19, 2007 6:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know why his head is blue, don't ya? There ain't no oxygen up Allen Barrett's ass where his head stays.

Friday, April 20, 2007 7:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's a real intelligent observation anonymous especially from someone unaffectionately known as suppository head.

Friday, April 20, 2007 9:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous, What is this, like the third or forth reason that you've given as the reason my head is blue? Are you that unstable and confused? Or are you just quessing and maybe one day you'll get it right? Just to be sure on my part, you are the anonymous that said he was going to stop reading and posting aren't you?

Friday, April 20, 2007 6:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You people sure stray from the topic. Parking on the Square!
The bottom line (solution)for any one without tunnel vision!
Move all Courts into the County Jail.
Any day of the week, there is no court, you can park an trailor truck any where on the square.
The courts are YOUR PROBLEM, not the county employees'. As for the motorcycle parking that you have talked to death: That is one employee that is leaving a parking place for someone else!
A couple even commented it was a Goldwing not a Harley so not to give Harley a bad name.
No problem there, Harley has given Harley their bad name!
Your either a part of the solution or your part of the Problem.
#1. Move all the Courts to Jail
#2. Get Vanzant out of office
#3. Get your commissioner on the phone and tell him/her to get a backbone and off their **S,. Talk the those elected officials that are doing their jobs. Talk to the employees' for their views and listen to the voters'.
Before the people can vote Mrs. Vanzant out of office she will have set our county back 15 years and the debt will take 25 years or more to pay off!

Saturday, April 21, 2007 12:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

421.1213 You make sense - too bad you're dealing with idiots

Saturday, April 28, 2007 6:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I noticed with the return of the beautiful weather the shiny bright motorcycle on the courthouse lawn has also returned. The question has been asked before why is it allowed to be parked on the sidewalk. Is it true that people in the courthouse simply enjoy special privileges or is it just that Mrs Vansant who controls the courthouse was less than truthful about taking care of the problem and really never even addressed it.
Perhaps her attention has been too focused on who sits where during the commission meetings.

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sara...
Why don't you ask reporter barrett to launch an investigation into the matter and then run an article in the "Giles Rebel"? I'm sure it would be very interesting reading.
It seems to me that the motorcycle thing is only a problem for the whiners' group. And NO, I am not an employee of the courthouse or a relative of one who works there. I just get tired of the whining. It has to be frustrating to not be able to find anything right or good about this county.

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 6:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous do you believe that parking a motorcycle on the courthouse lawn is appropriate? This is a real simple question that requires onlya yes or no response. Thank you.

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How can that be a simple yes or no answer. On the surface, I would say no. However, we don't always know the mitigating circumstance, do WE?
Let me ask you a simple question that calls for a short response. Why does the motorcycle bother you so much? Here's another question I've already asked you to answer. Do you find anything good about Giles County?
I would think your hero (aka the reporter) would investigate and expose any and all evil intent!

Thursday, May 03, 2007 7:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love Giles County and have lived here all my life. I find many beautiful things and wonderful people here, if I did not I would leave. One of those beautiful things and one that brings many visitors to our county is the Courthouse. I can not see where a motorcycle parked next to the building can possibly enhance the historic, picturesque appearance of the Courthouse. If it added to the beauty then why wasn't it included in all the pictures that are used to advertise the county?

Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So have I, Sara. But I still don't see why you are so upset about a motorcycle.
Normally when pictures are taken of the courthouse, they are taken after hours and usually without any cars or trucks there.
Look, those doing the whining will soon find something new to criticize, so why don't we just let this one die on the vine? I'm sure they have bigger fish to fry by now.

Friday, May 04, 2007 5:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous, why does it bother you that sara does not like the motorcycle parking on the sidewalk?
Are you really that much of a control freak that you will not stop until everyone is proud that the motorcycle is there?

Saturday, May 05, 2007 9:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It not only looks bad but is totally inappropriate to have a motorcycle parked on the sideway most anywhere but especially on the courthouse sidewalk. Would you tolerate an automobile parked there?
Yes I find many thing wonderful here and would like to keep it that way. I have lived here all my life with the exception of going to U.T. I love it here and will leave when God calls me home. But because I love it here doesn't mean everything is as close to perfect as it could and should be.

Sunday, May 06, 2007 7:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

An automobile parked on the courthouse green? Would I tolerate it? Would it be up to me to tolerate it or not? Frankly, I wouldn't get in a twist over it. Why does the motorcycle bother you so much anyhow? It's not good for your health to be angry like that.
I share your sentiments about a love for Giles County. I too have lived here all my life and will most likely die and be buried here. It's never been perfect, and people (including you and me) have their faults. But that doesn't mean I have to be upset and complaining all the time over imperfections. Would you agree with that?

Monday, May 07, 2007 5:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why doesn't the motorcycles, as there are now two, bother you. If you indeed have a love for Giles County why are you so opposed to making things better instead of always complaining about others who are trying to make a difference.

Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You tell him SARA! The only thing good about anonymous is that he's soooo kind and thoughtful as to worry about everyone's health. Isn't that sweet! My question once again anonymous. Why does it bother you that it bothers SARA that there is a motorcycle parked on the courthouse lawn?

Tuesday, May 08, 2007 5:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

funny blue....
Why does it bother you that it bothers me that it bothers Sara?How much farther removed from "anonymity" are you when you post as someone with a funny blue head?
And Sara is wrong in her assessment of me when she says I do not care for Giles County. My beef is with the know-it-alls who want so badly to run it. And, as its oft been stated....that AIN'T gonna happen!
Can we move on now? The August election is over, and your guys lost.

Wednesday, May 09, 2007 5:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous, I thought you were going to stop posting on this blog. What happened?

Wednesday, May 09, 2007 10:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous, I never said you didn't care for Giles County. I only asked the question, "If you indeed have a love for Giles County why are you so opposed to making things better instead of always complaining about others who are trying to make a difference". I would ask the same question again but doubt if you would respond more clearly than your actions already have.

Thursday, May 10, 2007 8:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sara...
Perhaps I don't understand your question as it is framed. I already told you I love Giles County as much as anyone. I just don't appreciate all the mistrust and resentment that's being perpetuated by the "encounter group" whose motives seem grounded in paranoia. OK?
I'm sure you didn't appoint the guy with the funny blue head your spokesperson. You seem more than capable of thinking for yourself. Sadly, the whiners (he's one of them) assume that you lack that ability, so they are ready and willing to tell you what to think.

Thursday, May 10, 2007 5:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't understand you anonymous. No one is telling me how to think and I haven't a clue who the Blue-headed guy is. I don't even know who you're talking about when you write of paranoid groups with ulterior motives.
The only thing I'm writing about and becoming more frustrated with is why people are being allowed to park motorcycles next to the courthouse on the sidewalks instead of on the street like other motor vehicles. Don't you understand how very ugly and inappropriate this is and especially what it does to the sidewalks that become oil stained?
Why can't you just say "yes I do" or "no I don't" believe parking motorcycles on the sidewalk next to the courthouse is right and needs to be stopped?.

Friday, May 11, 2007 10:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sara..
Ok, I give up. You can keep on fussing and fuming about a motorcycle, but I'll not do that. You have a right to your opinion just like I do. So let's just leave it at that.
Have a good day.

Saturday, May 12, 2007 7:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Instead of giving up wish you would have just answered my question especially since you were so critical of me but apparantly saw nothing wrong with the motorcycles on the sidewalk at the courthouse.

Saturday, May 12, 2007 9:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sara
Here's the answer to your question.. No, I don't believe motorcycles should be parked around the courthouse, but I do NOT know all the circumstances surrounding this and neither do you. Did you ever stop to consider that some people come to the square on their motorcyck to do business. Would you favor passing an ordinance that prohibits people parking motorcycles on the square when they have to come up town for business. Should they park a block away and walk? Just wondered what you thought about that.

Sunday, May 13, 2007 8:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What I thought about that is simple. Regardless of the circumstances that are unknown there are proper places to park a motorcycle just as there are proper places to park an automobile. At least one of the motorcycles belongs to a Mr Stafford who works in the tax assessors office. Why should someone on a motorcycle seeking to do business on the square be treated any different than any one else. There have been times that I could not park on the square, once I had to park almost at the library. It took longer to walk to the courthouse than it did to renew my registration. Motor vehicles should be parked in designated parking places, period.
What circumstance that I haven't considered would you use to justify parking by the courthouse as a matter of regular routine.

Sunday, May 13, 2007 10:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sara,
Are you whining because you had to walk to the courthouse? Is that what this is all about? Many of us have found parking to be hard to find at the courthouse on certain days. It's happened to me, but I'm not crying about it.

And, for your information, I checked on this motorcycle situation, and Mr. Stafford did indeed get permission to park his motorcycle there. He said that when he uses a regular parking space people complain about a motorcycle occupying a much-needed space. When he parks it on the courthouse lawn, the whining starts. So, he can't win either way. But the point you need to get is that he DID get permission.

Finally, I know for an absolute fact that motorcyclists come to the town square to do business. Do you think motorcycles should be banned from use on the town square? I'm just trying to understand why this has you in such a twist.

Monday, May 14, 2007 8:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's so frustrating trying to reason with you when you don't bother to read your own statement much less what I write to you.
I have nothing against motorcycles or the riders, I used to be one in my younger days. My brother had an Indian that I rode while he was overseas, later had my own BSA.
I never suggested motorcycles be banned from anything or anywhere except from parking next to the courthouse. Now as for getting permission the only person who can give that is the County Executive and she said she has NOT given anyone permission to park anywhere.
So where did the permission come from?

Monday, May 14, 2007 10:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sara,
How would I know who gave the permission? Why don't you ask the "reporter" to investigate and expose the guilty party? All I'm telling you is what I was told.
I never implied or suggested that you were against motorcycles being on the town square. If you will go back and read my post, you will see that I said I was just trying to understand your reasoning.
What would it take to make you happy about the situation? How about having Mr. Stafford submit to a lie detector test? Sheesh even.

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 5:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To anonymous:
Since you have drawn me into this matter I will respond.
If you never implied or suggested that Sara was against motorcycles being on the town square, would you please explain your statements from May 13 and 14 when you wrote "Did you ever stop to consider that some people come to the square on their motorcyck to do business. Would you favor passing an ordinance that prohibits people parking motorcycles on the square when they have to come up town for business. Should they park a block away and walk?" and "Do you think motorcycles should be banned from use on the town square?"
The whole issue that seems to have been raised by Sara is the appropriateness of parking a motor vehicle on the sidewalk next to the building.
If Mr Stafford said he was given permission to park on the sidewalk I would have no reason to disbelieve him. I would however want to know who gave that permission. To me the problem isn't with Mr Stafford he's only doing what he has been allowed to do. The problem is obviously with whoever gave him or anyone else permission to park a motor vehicle on the sidewalk next to the courthouse. There is no doubt the County Executive is the only one with the authority to give such permission, would you suggest that SHE take a "lie detector test"? Allen Barrett

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 11:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wab...
Try to understand what I said. It's fairly simple, and a man of your intelligence should easily grasp it.
I asked Sara if she had ever considered the matter. I also asked her if she would favor a ban on them. Neither was an implication or an accusation that she was against anything. Those and a couple of other questions were asked in an effort to understand her. Read the post again, and you will see that I even told her I was trying to understand.
Perhaps you need to investigate Mr. Stafford and where he got his permission. The irony is that, when he parked the bike in a parking apace, people complained. Then he gets consent to park in an area other than a public parking space and some people start whining and demanding that something be done. Looks like a no-win situation to me. Would you agree with that?
No, I don't think the "problem" is with Mr. Stafford or with Mrs. Vanzant. I think the problem is that some people want to complain, regardless of any attempt to pacify them! Would you likewise agree with that?

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 4:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I suppose that if everyone who worked at the courthouse drove a motorcycle to work there would indeed be a problem with parking on the courthouse grounds. But only one motorcycle, and you people want to make a Federal case of it? Outstanding!

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 7:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous no one wants to make a "federal case" out of this but I have now become intrigued by the whole thing and wonder why it is that the County Executive, she is the only one with the authority, doesn't just make an announcement that either you can or you can't park motorcycles on the sidewalk of the courthouse. As it stands now it seems special privileges are given to certain people.

Thursday, May 17, 2007 7:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about Kyle Helton or Mayor Speer? What if Mr. Stafford asked one of them if it would be ok since he works at the courthouse?

Thursday, May 17, 2007 7:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No one including the sheriff and mayor have the authority to give permission to park on the courthouse grounds. Even judges don't have that power. That responsibility or privilege rest solely in the hands of the county executive. Tennessee Code Annotated 5-6-108 states, "The county executive has the care and custody of all county property, unless it is placed with another officer". It has not been therefore the county executive is where the buck stops.

Friday, May 18, 2007 11:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My question is.....why are you so upset about the employee parking his motorcycle on the courthouse to avoid occupying a parking space? If the owner parked the bike in a parking space, would you then cry about that too? Can't you just move on for goodness sakes????

Friday, May 18, 2007 8:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look it doesn't bother me one way are another where the motorcycle is parked. I think there are appropriate places for such things but the reason I posted on the thread was because you keep making stupid claims. It's very frustrating to see the same person make the same dumb blunders even after more correct information is made available. The problem you are having is trying to defend something that has no reasonable defense.

Friday, May 18, 2007 9:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Howard...
Maybe you need to get a life? Just an observation since you made an observation about me. ALL I was trying to do is find out why a few whiners are so upset about the motorcycle thing. Some people just want to complain regardless of the situation. It's like they just can't be pleased.

Sunday, May 20, 2007 2:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous if all you were "trying to do is find out why a few whiners are so upset about the motorcycle thing"
maybe you should read what is being written instead of automatically taking an opposing view on most everything. I do not know Sara but her post certainly were not those of a whiner. She merely asked a simple question and instead of giving some kind of reasoned response you attack her and try to defend the motorcycle parked at the courthouse. Talk about someone needing to get a life, I'd be satisfied if you just woke up from your dreams.

Monday, May 21, 2007 2:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

howard
Excuse me, but if you will go back and read my post again, you will see that I told Sara I was merely trying to understand her concern. I have nothing to do with the goings-on at the courthouse, but I did find it a bit whiney that someone makes such an issue of an employee parking his bike off the regular street parking to accommodate those who needed to park and take care of business. It was a real catch twenty-two for Mr. Stafford. He was criticized for using a parking space and then caught more criticism when he stopped using one. Can't win for losing sometimes.
Can we now move on to more pressing business?

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 6:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

a-nag-u-must so by your unreasoning if I park my truck on the courthouse lawn I shouldn't be criticized because I'm actually saving a parking space for a shopper. I can make it even better since I have a handicap parking permit I can park on the ramp to the basement and not have so far to walk to the elevator.
I didn't know you had a "pressing business" I thought you worked on Cedar Lane. Could I have misjudged you and you're actually dumber than I thought.

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 10:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

unsmart bart...
You continue to amaze me with your brilliance. A pressing business? Wrong yet again! You must have me confused with someone who has a laundry business. Furthermore, I don't know anyone on Cedar Lane. Perhaps you have been out in the sun too long?
As for parking your truck on the courthouse lawn, I would imagine that you would be arrested if you made a habit of doing so. We are talking about a motorcycle here and an employee of the courthouse.
You people just can't be happy with anything. THAT is pitiful.

Wednesday, May 23, 2007 6:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

a-nag-u-must you're the one who said you wanted more "pressing business" and since you have no interest in any of the many things going on in Giles County except for "whining defense" of corruption, lies, and special privilege for courthouse "employees".
"We are talking about a motorcycle here and an employee of the courthouse" is how you finally justified parking on the courthouse sidewalk. How is anyone to know what you meant. You're the only person I've ever known who mumbles in their written word.

Thursday, May 24, 2007 7:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

unsmart bart
You are wrong yet again! Amazing. Is it always this difficult for you to understand things?
What I asked is...can WE now move on to more pressing business? Surely you understood that I was suggesting we discuss more important matters. That's a simple concept. Were you just trying to impress me with your wit?
As for the motorcycle situation, I was simply telling you that we are talking about ONE motorcycle and ONE employee who tried parking his bike both in a public parking space as well as just off the curb at the courthouse.
By the way, I went up to the town square this morning and didn't see the motorcycle or your truck.
Why don't you drive up there and pull your truck right up to the south end of the courthouse door and start sounding your horn until Mrs. Vanzant summons the police? Should you decide to do that, please let me know so I can be there to watch them lead you away in handcuffs to either jail or the mental health center.

Friday, May 25, 2007 8:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

a-nag-u-must; You're the one who said you wanted "more pressing business" I just used your words to define the idea that obviously, like most everything else of importance, eluded you. As for parking my truck on the courthouse grounds I wouldn't dare since I'm not a courthouse employee and have no special privileges like working a regular 35 hours a week and getting paid for 40, or taking breaks to go shopping during those 35 hours, or visiting for hours each day with others in the courthouse(I think that's called networking now so it sounds more official). As for the Mental Health Center I was there and was given a signed statement from one of the most outstanding psychiatric consultants in the world. You see, when I went there they said I had the biggest inferiority complex they had ever seen, so obviously that made me feel so much better I was immediately discharged with a clean bill of mental health. I know you can't show me your bill cause they haven't finished the evaluation yet, but when they finish maybe we can compare notes. Until then take the medicine and stay as quiet as possible. PS, could you please make me a basket large enough to hold some eggs, I have one but need two so all my eggs won't be in just one basket.

Saturday, May 26, 2007 8:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

un-smart bart...
Our discussion has moved from cynical to clinical. Interesting.

Your psychiatrist diagnosed you as having a serious inferiority complex and missed a probably co-morbid condition called paranoid schizophrenia? How long has this person been in practice?

I have some advice for you that may be therapeutic. As for inferiority, read some good self-help books on self esteem and positive thinking. Surround yourself with positive and productive people instead of the negative and complaining types who never find anything good in anyone, other than themselves. Now, as for paranoid schizophrenia, I'm afraid that's a tougher nut to crack. I would suggest deep and prolonged therapy. And keep telling yourself this....everyone is not out to get you.
Please leave your name and address so that I can send you my bill for consultation. I don't do pro-bono.

Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To a-nag-u-must,

I appreciate your treatment plan (I have some advice for you that may be therapeutic. As for inferiority, read some good self-help books on self esteem and positive thinking. Surround yourself with positive and productive people instead of the negative and complaining types who never find anything good in anyone, other than themselves.) The problem is if I followed your plan I wouldn’t be able to talk with you anymore. Anyway the problem of low self esteem was overcome the moment I learned that my inferiority complex was the biggest ever seen.
I got very scared when you started writing about me being a paranoid schizophrenic especially when you said you would crack my nut. I know you said I had a pair a noids but that don’t mean I want one cracked. I did tell myself everyone wasn’t out to get me but the doctor told me I shouldn’t talk to myself anymore it made him nervous. I guess that’s true because he tried to run me off the road after I left his office.
By the way I don’t care if you don’t do Bono, I believe in don’t ask don’t tell, I still like his music.

Monday, May 28, 2007 11:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

un-smart bart...
Perhaps I missed the diagnosis? Could it be that you are simply schizoid with grandiose delusions of self? I'm not sure hero worship is a DSM-IV listed disorder, but I'd guess it is applicable to you.

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To a-nag-u-must, Perhaps instead of missing the diagnosis you just missed the boat. Of course I don't have grandiose delusions of self, I'm much to perfect for that.
I don't know what you mean about hero worship I have always had heroes like Audie Murphy, Roy Rogers, Ronald Reagan and Me. Oh, please don't yell DSM-IV at me I don't know what it means but know it must be a bad word because they always spell the bad words. Hope your indigestion gets better, being stopped up always makes people cranky.

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 3:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

un-smart bart
The DSM-IV is the diagnostic manual used by clinicians to disgnose mental disorders.
Hero Worship Disorder is not in the book yet, but I'm sure a strong case could be made for adding it if those who compile it should visit Giles County.

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 11:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To a-nag-u-must,
You still didn't say what "DSM-IV" spells or why you yelled it at me. Wouldn’t you rather be diagnosed by a doctor instead of a clinician?
When you looked up "hero worship" did you happen to look at your own diagnosis? You can find it in the DSM-IV under "sociopath".

Thursday, May 31, 2007 7:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

un-smart and bad bart...
Did you not know that most professional clinicians hold PhD degrees? That qualifies them to diagnose your problems.
Un-smart bart and bad bart? Perhaps multi-personality disorder needs to be added to your repertoire of illnesses.

Saturday, June 02, 2007 9:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you know that all Psychiatrist hold a medical degree and some hold their nurses.
Yes many have a PhD and many of them are working for the government in such departments as Children Dis-Services, Human Dis-Service. I still prefer my diagnosis coming from a Board Certified Psychiatrist instead of a psychologist who only majored in psychology because it required hardly any math. As for multi-personalities, all mine are in order not disorder. I am surprised you would know about that since my clinician said you was personality deprived.

Sunday, June 03, 2007 7:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

bart...
So which one is your dominant personality.....un-smart or bad?
Your clinician must work at one of the local pool rooms. Ridiculous and laughable.

Sunday, June 03, 2007 3:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey a-nag-u-must, I'm a mostly straight person and ain't into none of that domination stuff. You may like being tied up and having your tush spanked but not me. I got mine spanked in school like regular people. Come to think about it I didn't altogether dislike it when my college associate professor would sit in my lap and reach over my shoulders to spank me for drooling everytime she walked into the room.
A-nag-u-must are you still hanging around da pool room. I heard all your pool playing these days was in your pockets.

Sunday, June 03, 2007 4:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

bart...
I never said a word about sexual deviance. Those were your words, and it appears that your are very knowledgeable about it.
Do you not realize that you "exposed" yourself when you said you are mostly straight? Are you saying that you have latent tendencies toward sexual deviance? Just wondering.

Sunday, June 03, 2007 6:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To a-nag-u-must,
You did ask me about my "dominant personality" ain't dominant derived from dominate, and ain’t that what a dominatrix does? Maybe you should choose your words more wisely if you don’t want people to know what happens on your week-ends or is that weak-end? As for exposing myself you’re way off the mark, I always check my zipper before I start typing. As for being knowledgably about sexual deviance I’m very knowledgeable about space but I never been there. I am mostly straight because sometimes I stands up straight and sometimes I stands sort of stooped over. Now listen here, you quit messing with my latent tendencies them things can also harbor homicidal tendencies.

Monday, June 04, 2007 2:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Un-smart bart..
I had to refer to you this time as unsmart, because you have once again "exposed" yourself as such.
Now, you are confusing dominant with dominate.
Dominant personality is a concept normally ascribed to those such as yourself who suffer from multi-personality disorder. At any given time, one personality will be "dominant". I thought you would have understood it, but you went off on some sexual fantasy by talking about dominatrix and references to perverted things of that nature. And then, in a fit of self-deception, you tried to displace those fantasies onto me. Absurd.
How long have you had homicidal tendencies? Even if they are latent, you should share them with your psychiatrist.
In closing, I may think you a complete nut, but I have more class than to call you one.

Monday, June 11, 2007 7:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to a-nag-u-must, Did you miss me?
Well, there you go again writing about me being "exposed". Can't you get over your fixation? Get this clear, I don't want to be in your fantasies so stop. You write about "self-deception" each day I check the mirror to make sure of two things first is it really, really me and second did I really get prettier over night. Each day both answers are YES, YES, YES.

Thursday, June 28, 2007 7:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

multi-personality bart...
No, I haven't missed you at all. Actually, your absence has been quite welcome. I just assumed you had finally taken my advice and checked yourself into a mental hospital.
As for fantasies, it appears to be YOU who exhibits the Freudian preoccupation with sex. And you continue tryiong to displace your own sexual insecurities onto me for some reason.
Anyway, welcome back to the jungle. I hope yopu are at least on medication now.

Thursday, June 28, 2007 12:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

bart...
I almost forgot to mention that I was merely "describing" your behavior. And I wouldn't call you a kook even if I thought you were.

Thursday, June 28, 2007 12:46:00 PM  

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