Candidates For Tax Assessor
The following people will be on the ballot seeking your votes for County Tax Assessor
Jim Fralix, Terry Harwell, Tommy Hyatt, Stoney Jackson and Steve McGill.
Here is an opportunity to enlighten the public about the strengths and weaknesses of each candidate and who you are supporting and why?
Jim Fralix, Terry Harwell, Tommy Hyatt, Stoney Jackson and Steve McGill.
Here is an opportunity to enlighten the public about the strengths and weaknesses of each candidate and who you are supporting and why?
posted by Allen Barrett | 10:25 PM
260 Comments:
Say no to Bluegill! Let's not forget what kind of a mess he got the tax assessor office into, let's not forget the outburst he had at the county meeting that time, screaming, "You don't know how to do my job" and then running out, only to apologize to the public after he cooled off. He had his chance, now we need someone to clean up his mess.
I suggest that we look at the educational requirements of the job and match those to the capabilities of each candidate. Also we should look towards the future and determine which candidate is willing to provide the most accurate, and up to date service to our county.
Hand drawn maps are long out of date. It is my understanding that Pulaski Electric Service has a completely digital mapping system of Giles county and they have included all right of ways as well as flood zone information. why is it that our tax assessor's office is so behind the times?
If a person goes to Lincoln County (same size asGiles County with the same population and number of properties) their office runs very well with three (3) people. people requesting information have a bank of public computer terminals from which they can get tax information or land maps. Why not here?
we need a tax assessor who will get off their behind, go out into the county seek out all improvements, assess those improvements and apply the appropriate tax rate. If we can elect someone who is not afraid to identify ALL IMPROVEMENTS, we just may get our tax rate lowered. What a concept.
Speaking of education as a qualifier for an elected office, I read in the paper that Terry Harwell has a "degree" in real estate appraisal. Wouldn't a better description be certificate or license?
It is my understanding you can have either or all three. A "degree" in real estate appraisal is offered by many colleges. I learned it is a rather rigorous course. One can also obtain a "certificate" or a "license" from many different sources. For my vote, I want someone who has taken the time to educate themselves in some manner to do the job. The days of electing good old boys or girls should be gone. Giles County needs someone who can do the job. And in this race that eliminates at least two from what I've learned - eliminates Fralix and Jackson.
Well, if Terry in fact has a degree, he should disclose which university or college he attended.
I like the word "disclose". Just licking my chops waiting to see what awful things are said on this topic about all the candidates. Course most of what is disclosed by others under anonymous is hogwash. Hmmmmm. Let's discuss their dogs and cats. How about their marriages and relationships? Anything we can say to trash their kids? Heck, do they even all have kids? If not, why not? Let's disclose their bad habits. Drinking? Smoking? Carousing? Any of them got a temper or bad mouth? Creative minds are whirling now trying to post something here to steal votes from one and give to the other. Kinda like election Robin Hood. But most have figured out the anonymooses on this blog and don't let them cause us to or not to vote for anybody.
anonymous..
I see that you are also posting anonymously. Does that mean that you are one of them? I think it does.
Trashing of candidates or elected officials is routine on this blog, so why expect anything less?
I beg to differ. It IS important for voters to know if a candidate is running around (dishonest), has a temper, etc. Who wants to attempt to talk to their tax assessor about their appraisal but go in fear of a confrontation instead of the decent discussion to which they are entitled.
1249 is best summed up as a dumb ass. Need to know qualifications and if they are honest & impartial - things 1249 can't comprehend.
Sounds like 1249 has had the rear end singed more than a few times - a true paranoid who has a reason to fear honest people.
What is it about posting or anonymity that scares you 12:49? Is it that you are not in control and really do not know who is posting so cannot intimidate them into remaining quiet? If you have it "figured out" so well why not post you own name? I post anonymously as do more than half of those on here. Not putting names on comments does not free me to irrationally post or take free reign at others. If you believe in your comments you make them whether you put a name to them or not. It's called ethics and whether you are known or unknown your character is judged by how you conduct yourself and the opinions you hold to be true. Now, someone tell those like me what makes each candidate qualified and by what rationale. I want to vote for someone who can serve Giles County well.
HaHaHaHaHaHa ... sorry, I couldn't quit laughing. Did you say "ethics" with all the stuff that is put on here by anonymous in plurality?
There have been 10 comments put on here so far and the plurality of them appear to have been made by the same sniveler just trying to stir things up like an upset 5 yr old who couldnt get on the ballfield .
So let's try this :-
How many of 'our friendly readers ' actually KNOW at least one of the tax-assessor candidates? That means more than waving to them as they went by or eating their free grease-burgers at a burp-off . Do you have any idea what the job entails ?? Did you realise that that job holds the single biggest opportunity for the county government to create its own income ? Do you realise how important it is to ensure that ALL property that is 'tax-eligible' should actually be included on the tax-rolls and not A) be excluded due to some personal interaction ? or
B) be overtaxed due to those same personal interactions ?
THAT takes training, perception, skill,and a huge degree of 'stickto-it-iveness' to get out and about in the county and find everything taxable then incorporate it efficiently into an up-to-date system that can keep records without needing a huge amount of labor to run it.
So, with those simple requirements in mind ....let's hear it for the current five candidates . HOW do they meet those criteria through training , education and experience . Dont tell us who their daddy's cousin was or wasnt in 1942 . Tell us what they bring to the job from the get-go . And DONT whine or snivel if your guy doesnt measure up -at least you'll know who NOT to vote for
Blog Jammer
I think that is well put blog jammer that this is more about what qualifies the candidate and not who they know or do not know. That it is more important that they be skilled, and in keeping, get our property taxes correct across the board fair.
I agree with 9:24. The person who is to be elected ought to have a desire to get of his butt, set down the coffee cup, put out the cigarette, get into the County vehicle and have the tenacity to go forth and CLOSELY inspect all properties and seek out improvements.
This person needs to be bold enough to find what has been built (or improved), fairly appraise the structure and apply a tax rate.
I truly believe that if all properties are COMPLETELY appraised (this requires getting out of the County vehicle and walking around) to raise the same amount of tax revenue, our tax rate could be reduced. This will help those who have small unimproved properties.
I can guarantee you this, the canidate that tells me they can do the job but plans on hiring Bluegill to aid him in his efforts will NOT receive my vote. Bluegill has been Giles County's problem for a long time. He needs to go home and as far as Stoney Jackson, he will need Bluegill because he knows nothing about appraisal work. He and Bluegill and Bluegill's one staff member will continue to be rude to the people who pays them.
To all the candidates: Don't promise us change if you plan on keeping McGill. It reminds me of a joke. It goes like this. Years ago a lieutenant who inspected his Marines told the "Gunny" that they smelled bad. The lieutenant suggested they change their underwear. The Gunny responded, "Aye,aye, sir, I'll see to it immediately". He went into the tent and said "The lieutenant thinks you guys smell bad and wants you to change your underwear. Smith, you change with Jones, McCarthy, you change with Witkowskie, Brown, you change with Schultz. Get to it."
THE MORAL: A CANDIDATE MAY PROMISE CHANGE BUT DON'T COUNT ON THINGS SMELLING ANY BETTER!!!!
Did yall hear about Tommy Hyatt going by a womans place and jumping all over her cos she had complained about his signs stuck in front of the county fire department? Heard he got kinda mad about it.
to July 18, 2008 10:25:00 AM : my advice is " If McGill looses (and I don't think he will), the winner had better keep him around to show the new Tax Assessor the ropes - It's one of the hardest jobs at the court house and if you're not familier with mapping, surveying and skills of this nature, you might end up being a one time winner. " Not to mention the mess that will have to be cleaned up - after you are gone in 4 years. ----- Just a thought.
Anonymous 5:30 pm
Are you forgetting McGill hired a new mapper after he got elected? Everyone elected to any office gets constant state training. I dont know what you are flapping about. Just a change of attitude in the office would go a long way to all around improvement. Naturally, we dont want any candidate who is known to have a temper and rude. They have to learn they a hired by the people of this county.
Anonymous 4:21
I heard about it but my understanding is Tommy Hyatt got the short end of the stick on that one.
Lets do a little comparison:
Lincoln County Population:32,728
Giles County Population:29,269
Lawrence County Population:40,934
Lincoln County Land Area:
570.23(square miles)
Giles County Land Area: 610.93(square miles)
Lawrence County Land Area:
617.17(square miles)
Giles County Houses: 13,697
Lincoln County Houses: 14,463
Lawrence County Houses:17,334
Giles County Tax Parcels: 17,575
Lincoln County Tax Parcels: 18,286
Lawrence County Tax Parcels:23,473
Giles County Tax Rate: $3.0700
Lincoln County Tax Rate: $1.7918
Lawrence County Tax Rate: $3.0200
Giles County Roads: 886.56(miles)
Lincoln County Roads: 784.49(miles)
Lawrence County Roads:987.37 (miles)
Giles County: 3.4% Of Property Taxes go toward Highway Department Funds.
Lincoln County:5.1% of Property Taxes go toward Highway Department Funds.
Lawrence County:
11.3% of Property Taxes go toward Highway Department Funds.
You failed to include that Giles Co Highway Dept. gets ALL the annual interest from the $15million hospital money investment held by Giles Co. This adds greatly to their coffers. Highway Dept. also gets severance tax income which is a pretty good sum. Your post above was very misleading to anyone reading this blog and not being fully aware.
Saturday, July 19, 2008 6:32:00 AM
The last I checked "THIS BLOG" was not about the hospital money. "THIS BLOG" is not about severance tax income. However "THIS BLOG" is about property tax. So I did not "FAIL" to include shit. Neither was I misleading to anyone. What I did was simply post some numbers that I found on state websites about surrounding counties to try and give everyone a rough estimate about what the tax assessor of Giles County has to deal with opposed to Lincoln and Lawrence. So the next time YOU want to say I was wrong on something why don't YOU make sure you are right on EVERYTHING Mr. Perfect. Thank you for pointing out every little detail, but you can do that while we are on a "BLOG" about the Highway Department until then lets stay on the subject of Property Taxes and the job of Tax Assessor.
As in the past, this Blog seems to be about anything anyone wants to talk about. Your ruffled feathers point to who you are. Thanks for that.
Mr. Perfect
Also I posted that blog in response to Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:58:00 AM
which said:"If a person goes to Lincoln County (same size asGiles County with the same population and number of properties) their office runs very well with three (3) people."
Well if this is the case they are breaking laws because it is AT LEAST One(1) to every 4500 parcels and if you do the math that come out to be four(4). If you do the math on ours it also come out to around 4 workers. This means you should have the assessor and three deputy assessors right? This is law not a decision made by the Tax Assessor nor any other elected official. What this does leave up to the elected officials is an option because of the words "At Least", so in reality they could hire 3 or 4 deputy assessors to every 4500 parcels if our commissioners and assessor thought was necessary. Tax Assessor has a very important role in this county and any county. I just hope everyone votes for the man that knows what he is doing and not because they are simply nice and you go to church with them and they are mannerly and have never had a temper(which this includes no one). We cannot ask a elected official to be perfect because we are not perfect. Some of us think we are, but we aren't. What we can ask of them is to educate themselves about the office prior to running for it and do everything in their power to keep us in compliance and give each and everyone of us a fair appraisal, classification, and assessment of property. That is asking alot in politics.
Mr. Perfect your an idiot.
Response for Mr. Perfect comment:
"As in the past, this Blog seems to be about anything anyone wants to talk about. Your ruffled feathers point to who you are. Thanks for that."
You are right people like you cannot stay on topic on this blog or any of the other blogs on Giles free speech. That is asking too much of narrow-minded people such as yourself. If my ruffled feathers point to who I am then who am I? I'll let you tell me who you think I am and then I will tell you who I am. You might be surprised to find out. I doubt very seriously that you have ever heard my name. I may be wrong about some things or every thing. but I am human and I don't mind saying that I am wrong unlike you but at least I try to educate myself about our elected officials and the job they have to do.
Mr. Perfect or Mr. Corrections could it not be said that both are pointing to very interesting statistics? Both are showing the message that for the population, households,land, and roads the amount of taxes collected either by property or other funding is not in direct correlation to other areas. But "the rest of the story" is in how you interpret those statistics and what hidden formula makes up the picture. I think it is interesting to note that the highway department (as well as the education system and more) are supplied funds through many variances. If not from one pocket than another will do. The pocket that I least want them to pull from is in taxing our already over taxed county. Paying for the Sam Davis stadium by raising taxes? Raising property taxes as the only "solution" to short falls seems to be the norm in this county. The candidate that has the most knowledge of Giles County and will most efficiently and fairly asses that property without bias would be enough to ask for. A temper seems to be in great supply all around.
You don't have to look at any other counties to get the picture about the tax assessors office, you need only to look at the budget. While the budget doesn't give the whole picture it certainly shows enough to understand this office costs have risen significantly yet the same problems have continued.
From page 8 of the budget, 52300 property assessor's office line item 162 clerical personnel up from the original 2007/2008 budget of $28,561.00 to $133,014.00 in the 2008/2009 budget.
Part of the problem seems to be a lack of cross training of personnel in the office. Simply, if cross training took place there would be a greater opportunity for more work to be done.
I'm sorry but there is nothing I can find to support Mr. McGill continuing in this job. He seems to have neither the temperament, discipline or work ethic needed to do the job and work well with others. Allen Barrett
wab..
Why don't you go to Steve McGill and offer to help him get his office more organized and streamlined? I'm sure he would appreciate that, since you know exactly what his shortcomings are.
Why should a member of the public have to show McGill some tips on how to organize his office, McGill is being paid big bucks to do the job efficiently. Don't forget he has been promising to do cross training since he got elected and it still hasn't happened.
WAB, thanks for publishing the increase in the Tax Assessor budget. If not for you, we qwould not have known it. According to the newspaper, the commissioners (those not in T Jackson's pocket) are thankfully beginning to look at the schools budget. They should also question the Tax Assessor budget.
And they ought to look at the County Exec budget.
Mr. Barrett
I too think you should take your "findings" to Mr. McGill and critique him in person.
Mr Barrett has already done that in meetings with witnesses.
If no to Mr. McGill then yes to which candidate and why? Cross training would seem to alleviate the work load and stress. The only reason a manager would not cross train is in keeping something that only THEY can do. It could be built in job security and control or a lack of trust? It would not be the first office where no cross training is given.
In meetings with witnesses? Or, do you mean in meetings before witnesses? Who appointed him private investigator and attorney anyhow?
He dont claim to be an attorney but he sure does a lot of investigating of wrongdoing in the county and he does it on behalf of the citizens who are not bold enough to do it themselves. And yes it is appreciated.
Mr. Barrett is trying very hard to help this county. Some do not like what he is doing. Maybe they are afraid of what he will diclose. Many just want the SAME O, SAME O.I for one would like to see things change for better for my grandchildren. Mr. Barrett keep up the good work.Many of us really do appreciate what you are doing.
NOBODY ever said barrett wasn't trying to help this county. However, many of us dislike the way he treats people. By the way, it has absolutely NOTHING to do with our fear of some great "truth" being exposed. Ridiculous.
Many of us see what he is doing in a much different light. But, isn't that the wonder of living in a free society where people are entitled to their own opinions?
Has Mr, Barrett treated anyone as badly has he has been treated?
perhaps if wab went to mcgill in person and discussed his complaints instead of attacking him in front of a group of people in meetings he might fare better. most people dont appreciate threatening tactics such as that.
mr barrett gets himself into these scrapes with other people. I think he pretty much gets the kind of respect he shows others who disagree with him.
I'm in county government and attend most meetings. I have never seen Allen Barret attack Steve McGill in a meeting. Did I miss something?
This is not about Mr. Barrett but about who would be a good candidate and why. He is just one of those commenting who puts his name out there. How about putting a name to a good candidate and why??? I saw where the property tax base will be increased AGAIN. No taxation without representation!!!! Vote for someone who is willing to reign in the taxation in this county. It is not a way to attract business, get people to shop here, or sell or buy homes in this area.
The appraisals in other counties have actually dropped in tandem with the economy and the housing market decline. Yet our appraisals went up. Why?
Any body is better than the drunk McGill. What a waste.
Dont vote for Harwell. The last thing we need is Vickie the Democrat near our taxes.
Anonymous, 3:09 pm
A ridiculous statement. Leave Mrs Harwell out of this unless you are going to make nasty statements about Mrs. McGill, Mrs Jackson, Mrs Fralix and Mrs. Hyatt. Those women aren't running for the job and there is no way they could be involved in the tax assessor's work. You just posted your remark to be hateful toward Mrs. Harwell. Wouldn't you think that out of the other 4 candidate wives at least one of them would be a democrat. Of course, this post had to be made by Mrs Harwell's Republican 'ex-friend'. Back off the crap.
4:02:00 Amen!!!
7/22 4:09
This just shows how smart you are. It's okay if you are a republican and just bashing Harwell cause she's a democrat. At least she don't hide that. But now we know you're a dumb republican. The Assessor is not near "our taxes". The assessor assesses your property hence the title assessor. The trustee receives your taxes hence the name trustee. And your commissioners set the tax rate hence something you should know as I guess you are a former commissioner just trying to help your candidate Mr. Jackson. Shame on you. Want us to talk about you and your wife??? That would keep us all busy.
Word on the street has it that she (mrs. Democrat) will be running the courthouse if Terry is elected. And her political affiliation really has nothing to do with that. Furthermore, the other wives are not in the public eye every time you turn around. A minor difference.
Word on the street seems to be your favorite slogan. You just used that same phrase in your other post. Don't you know any new words? Would you be Jimmy the former banker now custodian? I hear you've been bashing Harwell a lot lately. Are you jealous sir? If I recall you used to be a democrat yourself. I've seen the other wives out in the public. In tyhe public eye as you call it. Do you think wives belong at home in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant. Are you one of those men? You don't really want to talk about wives and ex-wives and girlfriends of the candidates do you? Lay off the candidate's wives and talk candidates or go play in the traffic. You're wasting our time and probably gaining votes for Harwell the way you choose to bash his family. Tell us who your candidate is and why instead of using this to sling your hatred at folks whose names aren't on the ballot.
Agree with 518 post that you can tell it is a dumb Republican. If it is Mooney nobody takes him serious anymore. Nobody. Ditto for Morris. Talk about being in the public eye and newspaper. What is the story about folks throwing stones who live in glass houses. Stones bounce back to hit you smack dab in the nose or the house falls with a loud crash!!!!! To use your words, word on the street is Harwell is campaigning hard and doing well all around the county. Shame you try to discredit him by attacking his wife. Some big man or woman you are. Sure makes us all think you are some big hero with your cape all aflapping in the breeze behind you sailing through Giles County trying to save our world. NOT! Youze is a snake crawling on the ground and surely headed for a cow pie.
I bet one candidate is cringing thinking somebody will want to talk about his wife and exwife who're related. I say let's forget about them candidates and talk about all them wives. Yee haw. Rodeo!
5:18 I agree the wives should be left out of the election unless they make themselves an issue.
On the other hand when you say "But now we know you're a dumb republican. The Assessor is not near "our taxes", actually shows how dumb you are. The assessment of property is primarily a matter of the assessors discretion as long as it is within the guidelines. A couple hundred dollars higher tacked onto a property can bring in a whole bunch of extra money to the county. Now ask yourself how many contested the assessed valued of their property during the past few assessments and who would contest a hundred dollar addition? Truth is the tax assessor has a lot of power and has a very big hand on the tax purse.
Yeah I can tell bluegill has one big hand in the "purse" what is that house he lives in worth? BILLIONS!? What morons you all set here and act like someone is getting rich off of your tax dollars. Complain, Complain, Complain. I'm sure glad you all have nothing to do but set around and type on a computer during the middle of the day. Get a freaking job and start paying taxes. If you are going to use the excuse that you are retired then you need to go volunteer at the assessor office and help them out because it seems that you've sat on your butts long enough to figure out what would make this county run without problems. This is truly amazing that grown men and women get on here and talk like children. How stupid. This blog is just for entertainment for the people that have nothing better to do. I bet all of you set back and hit refresh all day just to see who will talk back to you. What a waste. So go ahead and ask what your county can do for poor old pitiful you because it's a fact your not going to do anything for your county. ANYBODY Want to bet on that? I'm sure somebody will enjoy arguing with you simply because they cannot better themselves and rise above the ignorance of someone wanting to talk about somebody else. Anonymous people really have no voice do they? Anyways...I thought I would contribute to this nonsense. Wouldn't be a bad blog McPeters if you would filter out the idiots and just keep what was on topic, but chances are you get a kick out of it to?
Hold it right there! You are way out of line assuming just because people are posting during the daytime that they are retired. I'm retired and take afront to that. And yes, I worked my ass off for 50 years so I could retire. What do I do now? VOLUNTEER! And did it without your suggestion. On top of that I have a part-time job, earning a little extra that I give to the needy. Its obvious you are blasting and again assuming the handful of folks who make an effort to follow the local government and most of them retired. Who else can attend meetings when they are held in the daytime for the convenience of the elected officials? Another thing, that little handful of people very rarely even look at this blog. Its been a laugh when postings have been made trying to down those folks. You are wasting your time because they dont even know about it so you sure dont hurt their feelings. You might be interested to know that half of them spend a great deal of their time helping out their elderly neighbors. Enough in defense of the retired population.
Now I'll tell you - plenty of employed folks get on this blog during their workhours. I've even walked in on some of them. Ha Ha.
Then you shouldnt forget the folks who work from home?????? Thats a hint for you.
Anonymous..
You mentioned the term "dumb Republican" for which I must take issue.
Let me ask you a few questions. Which party (democrat) promotes dependency and entitlements? Which party (democrat) was pro-slavery? Which party (democrat) wants more of your tax money? Which party (democrat) favors and promotes homosexual marriage and the slaughter of innocent children for the sake of convenience? Which party (democrat) wants its voting block to remain uneducated and dull? Yes, the answer to all of the questions is democrat. And you think Republicans are dumb? What a laugh!
I've said this beforefore, and will now say it again. Whenever I run across someone who is so very proud of being a democrat, I automatically start to wonder about their intellignce. It's truly disappointing.
Hey 8:13 you got to be a dope or on it to suggest that someone go volunteer to do McGill's job for him when he's making over 60,000 a year and does little more than suck cigarettes and coffee while hanging on the rail or the gazebo staring at every woman that goes by. Of course that's only when he's not up stairs hitting on the female workers.
It would be nice if we could actually discuss the candidates like grown ups.
To anonymous July 22, 5:51pm. What Morris are you speaking of?
I am not anonymous of 5:51 but I figure they are talking about Chris Morris. The dialogue fits.
Anybody else getting a kick out of Bluegill's HUGE ads talking about his integrity? and being an assessor for the people? In my lifetime I've learned that one's integrity is shown through actions not words telling folks they have integrity. Anybody else think this is over the top for him? Anybody else think 31 years on the county's payroll is enough?
Personally, 7:57, I found the "you get what you pay for" to be the most interesting part of the McGill ad. In this instance, the taxpayers certainly have not got what we did pay for.
Does anyone have any insight as to Harwell's Real Estate Appraisal Degree? I don't know if any of you have had a house appraised lately, but it is not cheap. Wonder why Harwell has been selling cars all these years, instead of making the big bucks? Unless having said degree is BS.
Big bucks for house appraisal? Sales is where the big bucks is or was. Course everything has bottomed out now, houses, cars, groceries. Are you one of those folks who don't like other to better themselves? Lots of people go to school while working other jobs until they can better themselves. I heard the average age in college now is 39? I worked with Harwell for years and saw him studying most every day on lunch break. He was almost never without his books. Even tried to read some of the stuff myself. Know it was a university in Nashville area where he traveled for testing. Can't recall the name. Why not call him if you want to know the name or see his degree. I'm sure he would show you his piece of paper.
Course my wife's sister got her masters through a similar program in Nashville area and I don't recall the name of that college either although it helped her get a raise in her teacher's pay.
One thing I can tell you is that Harwell is as honest as the day is long. He was my direct boss for years and I couldn't have asked for better. He worked days when he was sick and worked extra days for others when they was sick or had to be off for other reasons. Never saw him lose his temper or talk ugly or cuss although I sure can remember a lot of times when it would have been justified.
You need to sling your mud at someone else my friend cause most folks around here know Terry Harwell is a good man and the man for this job. Could be you are the man in the job now trying to discredit Harwell or maybe you are the other candidate who I hear you two have cooked up a deal to promise each other jobs if either of you win ???????
My money's on Harwell. He is what you see and what he's been along. That's what you'll get the next four yeas if you vote for him. A hard worker who deserves a chance to improve that office. It is time for a change.
Anonymous you wonder why Harwell has sold cars all these years. From knowing the family, I can share that Harwell has sold cars to provide a home and to feed and clothe a wife and three kids. He also sent three kids to college. Not a small task. Unless my memory fails me, Terry also worked six days each and every week at Popham's dealership while two of the kids were in college and the other in high school. I know this because during that time he also made the time to volunteer for the high school band as I did. He slung burgers and dogs on the grill at Sam Davis Park to keep the band program running. He and his wife chaperoned road trips with me and my wife. I remember him moving all sorts of junk for the band yard sale and working the pancake breakfast and the christmas concert. Sounds like just the kind of hard working man we need appraising our property. What were you trying to prove with your remark anyway unless as 11:49 said you are another of the candidates. Those of us who have worked or volunteered alongside of him for years know what he is and what he can and will do. If he says he has a degree in real estate appraisal, I believe he does. Even if he wasn't trained to do the job, he'd be better than someone who is trained and doesn't do the job or doesn't treat folks fairly while doing the job. That my friend is why away we go to vote for Harwell.
I had my home appraised and it cost me about 350 bucks. Ive known Harwell for a long time, and there is no doubt that he is a good man. I think all that 11:04 was asking was why Harwell was not working in the field that his degree was in. It is a valid question.
Ever think the reason he got the degree was sohe would be better qualified for the job of tax assessor?
So he just got the degree? What experience does he have?
For pity's sake call the man. Let Harwell tell you when he began the education when he finished the required curriculum, etc, etc, etc. Maybe I'll call him and tell him to run a copy of the degree in the newspaper along with what he ate for breakfast lunch and supper since qualifying to run for this office.If I were planning to run for assessor I would make sure I could do the job too. Beejeezus folks, don't we want someone who is actually trained to perform accurate appraisals. Instead of worrying how and when and why Harwell got his real estate appraisal degree why not question how two of the candidates who haven't told us they have acquired the skills expect to do the job. Jackson and Fralix. Why not wonder why someone with all the land and rental property and railroad job that Hyatt boasts about wants to be Assessor. Why not wonder why McGill worked there for 27 years then ran for assessor and worked 4 more years for 31 years and now wants it 4 more years when he has acted so miserable the 4 years he has been the Assessor. Inquiring minds want to know so very much more. Don't they?
There are no qualifications to run for this office. While you think you are cute with your comments about lunch and supper, you are not. What’s sad is that the only person who knows anything about the office is the worst one for it. Owning property does seem to give a man more knowledge about the value of property than would say selling cars...
3:14 How can you say he's the only one who knows anything about the office? What did he know when he first started working there? Or Billy Gordon? Or others before him. Zilch. How do you earn your living?
How I earn my living is irrelevant. I have already voted and McGill was at the bottom of my list. However it is hard to deny that thirty years of doing a job (even if you do it poorly) will teach you about that job.
Anyone who runs for office gets constant training on the job, for the whole time they are in office. This is through the state. Anyone with half a brain can do the work. Harwell happens to have taken extra training to enhance what he will be learning. Just because Hyatt has mucho rentals, does not make him a good candidate. The guy has an attitude - bad one.
I'll agree with 4:42. Jackson and Fralix what a joke. Appreciate the effort fellows but what you are doing is pissing in the wind. I think three of the five candidates want the job for the money because they think it'll be easy come. One of them is running because that is his life's work. No doubt in that last sentence. 30 years anywhere that pretty much speaks for itself there. The other one(Harwell) I believe would make an excellent Tax Assessor. Not saying who I'm voting for just narrowing my choices down. It comes down to who would be the best assessor not the best person. Attitude is really irrelevant in most jobs, but when you work for the public it does play a role. An attitude with people will take votes away in the future but if you walk around playing Mr. Nice guy a year before you get elected your first term then maybe you can talk your way into office. Who does this sound like? I think whoever gets the office will do the best they know how I wish them all luck because I wouldn't take an elected job in this county for a million a year...can't make them all happy just try and do the best you can do and if you do that then you have done all you can do. Point is you are damned if you do and damned if you don't.
Two other candidates for this office have a bad attitude as well - McGill and Jackson. You cant talk to folks like they are poop then turn Mr Nice Guy once you are running for office. People do remember these things ya know. On the other hand I've always found Harwell and Fralix to be polite and pleasant.
The county needs more professionals that are qualified and willing to live and work in this area. The problem being that this county seems to be retiring rather than attracting new growth. The economy is in the crapper all around, gas and food out the roof, jobs leaving everyday, the school system here is broken, and the politics boil down to who does not have an ulterior motive in seeking public office for a paycheck? It is a tough job but even if it were not there are enough unemployed in this area (or soon to be) that four years and a good paycheck can make one really congenial. I am still undecided but was turned off by the ad by both Harwell and Hyatt. They seem to lean on their local connection and their wives connections. Although, that seems to work in politics here. I would hate to think that this office would be used to get an inside track on future foreclosures or real estate deals. That has to be where the money is at and inside information is golden. If you follow the directives of the office and treat others as you wish to be treated this county will put up with a lot.
Earlier a poster mentioned the name morris and then someone asked what morris and to that question the answer was chris morris, or so they assumed. All this chatter has gotten me confused. I am wondering what chris morris has to do with anything. Anyone know? Also, I think you find negatives in all candidates running for this office. The question is which candidate is the most qualified. I understand that Harwell is a nice man but what is this about a degree? We the public need more info on that. Being nice alone is not a qualification for a job. Jim Fralix is a relative unknown. I don't know the first thing about him other than people say he is a nice guy too. Tommy Hyatt I have never met but heard negatives and positives about him. Who knows what is true. Stoney Jackson is a county commissioner and has been for a while and has been known to have somewhat a good head on his shoulders. McGill is absent in his job and has been for a while. He was rude to the county commission and hasn't proven he can do the job. So, again we have virtually no information that's accurate or any offer from any candidate as to how they plan to do a better job than the current tax assessor. All have negatives and positives. I can say this much none of the 5 candidates have came to my residence or approached me to ask me for their vote. That in my opinion puts all candidates in a bad light.
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I can say, having run for a county wide office and having that county wide office for a number of years that it is almost impossible to get to every "residence". You should try it some time. Candidates, most of them, leave at sun up and door knock until sun down and still cannot get to every door. Then too when folks arent at home you leave a card on the door and the next candidate or the wind comes along and removes the card so you never know they were at your home. One hundred degree weather and constant walking are a drain. Heat stroke is a possibility. A dog attack or bite is usually thrown in. Add to that the price of gas and the fact that most candidates have to work a job and earn a living while they door knock and the impossibility of knocking on every door grows. If you ever tried it you would have a different opinion although a lot of oldsters still expect to see candidates at their door.
Ads are a way to get one's message across. I have read all the ads and didn't see any of the candidates putting their wives qualifications forward. I did see photographs of three wives in Pulaski and Ardmore papers. That is fairly customary here as far as running at least one or two ads with family included. Everybody in Giles County is related to somebody else in Giles County.
Your statement that Jim Fralix is a relative unknown leads me to believe you just moved here. Mr. Fralix is an extremely nice man but has run for four or five of the different courthouse offices. One thing he is NOT is an unknown. I won't comment on Jackson's head but will say that he uses politics for personal gain. Another troubling thing about him is his absolute rudeness to anybody who has a different opinion than his. A troubling thing. Hyatt qualified to run for road superintendent four years ago and then removed his name from the ballot???? Now is running for assessor. I understand from those who know him best, family, that he does have a temper and a problem with doing what he says he will do. Harwell? Sure a nice man but he does need some skills to do the job. He says he has taken the time to get the education. Would he lie in print? I doubt it. I voted McGill last time but he is on the bottom of my list this time. He hasn't acted like he wanted to do the job for the last four years. Why give him another four? Morris? Don't exactly know how he figures in except that he and his wife seem to show up at gatherings where controversy is expected. I heard they're moving anyway. Early voting is going on. We all have decisions to make.
Newspaper ads naturally are limited in content due to space. Harwell's ad in Tuesday paper pledges "to provide fair and accurate appraisala, to work hard every day.....".
You have to read between the lines. McGill has not provided fair and accurate appraisals. I know first hand on this one. McGill has not worked hard every day. Many of the postings on this topic make statements about McGill's smoking and leaning on the courthouse gazebo during work hours. This is very true. When smoking was first banned in the courthouse, McGill continued to smoke - in his office. Vanzant claimed she "couldn't do anything about it!" McGill then moved to smoking in the stairwell immediately outside the tax office (sometimes with the door open). When smoking was banned in public places, he then moved to the gazebo.
Chris Morris was a former commissioner. He has nothing to do with what is going on now except the support of one of the candidates for tax assessor (see his SUV with candidate sticker). Chris Morris has always injected himself into situations, talked a lot and tried to take credit for whatever. In reality he has not done much of anything.
Harwell did visit my house and made the statement at that time that he is trying to get to as many homes in the county as possible. In my opinion I do think Harwell is working the hardest by everything I see him doing. That should tell us something about how he would perform on the job.
Having run for office here before I can tell you the main reason you don't see a lot of information in ads is because Lake family owns all the media. As a result they charge (because they can) about THREE TIMES what area papers charge. As I recall a quarter page is around THREE HUNDRED dollars. Their fee for radio is just as outrageous and they smile all the way to the bank during election time.
That should tell us that McGill is trying to put everything on the line in his LARGE over the top ads proclaiming his excellent service to us. Ads alone just dont cut it.
7/24 and 8:57 I for one like to on occasion see the ads with the family included. That way I can see whether it is a candidate and a family that has been involved in working and volunteering in Giles County while they've lived here. Or whether the family is folks I've never seen out helping others or doing or attending events and benefits and are just now smiling at us from the paper when they want our votes. I'm fairly new to the county but can now say that I've seen one of the families out in the county working and doing. The other one? Not until he now wants my vote. I know what that tells me. The only time I'll see him or his wife will be every four years and that is not enough for me.
Well I am really impressed with Tommy Hyatt. He seems like a very intelligent man and I think that he would make an excellent choice as our Assessor. We need someone who is going to be able to stay in office for many years and who is concerned about the wellfare of our citizens. We really do not need someone who is wanting the position just for a retirement, as I have heard that many of the other candidates are...
Only wish I knew who you were so I could tell you what I know about Hyatt firsthand. I believe you have been duped!
Tommy Hyatt is a very immature individual. Likes to boast about how much property he owns and about working for the railroad company who paid for his fancy signs. Can you imagine the favors they will get if he is successful in the election. And as for the others, just because there is snow on the roof dont mean the fires out in the basement.
Well I am not voting for Terry Harwell. I heard that his business went bankrupt and he thinks that "He is the man for the job"??? Please!!!!
You can hear a lot of rumors. I heard ... well, never mind what I heard. I usually only talk about what I know. I know that Popham's business went bankrupt after Harwell worked there. Think he's been at Murrey's about twelve years. Bought cars from him at Pophams for about ten before that. That takes us back about twenty years. You can hear a lot of things. Or maybe you haven't heard anything and just trying something else to discredit one of the candidates. Seems like everytime somebody on here says something positive about one of the candidates you come right back and say something to discredit them. Particularly when the good is mentioned about Harwell or Hyatt. Are you one of the other candidates? Say Jackson or McGill? Or a Morris trying to keep the pot stirred?
Harwell worked for me. He was entrusted with thousands upon thousands of dollars and the financing of large deals. I believe your attempts to discredit him will fall on deaf ears. He was trusted with the keys to everything I own and not a thing or a cent was ever missing. He managed employees and customers alike with courtesy and respect. You can hear a lot of things but I can tell you for a fact that he is the very type of man you can trust to be on the job and doing the job. It's a shame that folks like you are why good people are deciding not to run for public office and probably why Giles County isn't growing either. He has our vote and our respect because he has proven himself and deserves the chance.
july 24 eleven forty six -- why do we need to select someone because they are young enough to stay in office "for many years" and is concerned "about the wellfare" of the citizens? most often when someone has been in the job for a long time they forget theydon't own the job and they forget how to treat people they work for - - the taxpayers. why did hyatt choose not to run for road super? why don't folks who worked there at the county garage with him say nice things about him? you realize there is a lot to be said for maturity too. we need somebody who is mature enough to handle this job for us. youth does have its advantage but not always in love ........... or being assessor or property.
I'll bet Chris Morris is chuckling every time he reads this blog. He is running for NOTHING, yet his name keeps coming up. the quote "in reality he has not done much of anything" but certain anon. keep bringing his name up. If he isn't running for office, why bring him up?
I'll bet he isn't just on here chuckling. I bet he's the one writing a lot of this crapola. Or it's being written from his computer.
What do you all have against Chris Morris?
Let's try to get back on track of this stringer. Does anybody know if McGill and Hyatt have cut a deal to each employ the other if they win?
I posted this on another blog. Seems it is appropriate for this one also.
Maybe it also applies to Harwell too. I know Hyatt personally and I can tell you that even prayer won't help him.. He is one of the most self serving individuals that I know., He would screw over anyone especially his own wife. This is not a grudge this is fact...I've seen him in action. His mother would be so ashamed of him.
I hae known Steve McGill for years, and even though he is not my candidate...I do not believe he is as worthless as this blog makes him out to be. If you don't want him ...don't vote for him...but do not run him down because he has a sickness that he has tried to get help for. Pray for him..as I have prayed for you.
BOY, THAT IS ONE REAL POWERFUL GRUDGE THAT YOU HOLD AGAINST STEVE MCGILL. MUST HURT YOU TO THE CORE AND KEEP YOU UP AT NIGHT.
SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE "ADDICTED" TO THE HATE....MAYBE YOU OUGHT TO SEEK TREATMENT AT YOU LOCAL CHURCH.
"REHAB FOR THE SOUL"!!
GOD BLESS YOU AND KEEP YOU FROM OVERDOSING ON YOUR OWN EVIL THOUGHTS!!!
YOU ARE IN MY PRAYERSted this on another suhject line..
I believe it is appropriate for this one also....
I'm not a McGill supporter and will be voting for someone else, but one thing bothers me about the reasons listed on here for not voting for him. Over and over on here is mentioned that he smokes at the gazebo. I'm not a smoker and don't like it, but I don't take issue with those who do as long as it is outside and not in a no smoking area. To me that is there personal preference and has nothing to do with how qualified they are to do a job. Does he smoke a couple of times a day? If so, that's probably 15 minutes or so, and don't people who work in most businesses and factories get a couple of 10 or 15 minute breaks a day? I see no problem with someone doing that. If he's out there all day long and it keeps him from doing his work, then that's another issue alltogether. I just think people should focus on qualifications and not so much on personal shortcomings unless they do affect the job that much.
You know this is really turining out to be an ugly thing here. I mean, I thought that we were here to discuss politics, not bash the candidates. Before any one of you get up on your soap box and preach about going to church and getting prayer, I think that you need to take a look at yourself. I hope that you are not one of the candidates..
If it was a couple of minutes a day that would be no problem but the thing is the gazebo has been referred to as his office he's in it so much.
Two packs a day don't leave much time for other things. Go to his office and ask for him they'll tell you most of the time he's either upstairs or in the gazebo. The record tells the story.
Is it truly "bashing" the candidates or trying to bring character flaws to light, which in turn does effect the job.
I am non smoker. I know plenty of people who are chain smokers but refrain from smoking at work. I don't know how they do it but they smoke during the morning break, lunch and then afternoon break. When they get in the car to go home the car looks like a smoke stack by the time they get home. I don't have a problem at all with someone smoking during breaks. They are in designated places and are doing no harm to anyone but themselves. Now the old days of smoking inside is a different story!!
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I agree entirely. People should be free to do whatever in their private lives. No ones business but their own. The problem with the smoking in the tax assessors office was that it wasnt during breaks and lunch, the breakers are all day long. Didnt Wayne smoke along with McGill, look what happened to his health. But again, thats his choice. What people complain about is no discipline on when.
Smoking ain't the problem its all the time he spends doing nothing while he's smoking.
This is off the candidate subject but since WAB is missing lately (as are any other moderators comments)let me ask. Who feels that the local tax should be raised to pay for Sam Davis and why? If you read the article by Scott Stewart this past Wed. in the paper you can say it were inevitable that either the local tax is raised to pay or property taxes to pay for the bond. Personally I feel it is strange for all the county to use one field? It would seem to be a never ending hole to put money in with so much usage. Along the same line who has the money to build separate stadiums for each school? If this has been the way this county uses Sam Davis why has the deterioration not been gradually addressed? Why has it not had a short and long term plan in place to address deterioration? Why when money is tight is this a MUST for the city and taxes a MUST to pay for it? I vote NO and go back to the city to find more creative ways to pay or repair it. If they can drop the price tag once maybe the second time they can figure out how to balance a budget within the money they have to operate in.
I call it blackmail in it's purest form; "either give us more sales tax or we will raise your property taxes". Citizens already voted "no", so they tell us we are too stupid to understand what we are voting for and must vote again.....Not a pretty picture of our "leaders".
No matter how many times you re write the bill this county cannot afford it without taxes? So, how about we cannot afford it? Why not get our MANY local vendors and craftsmen who have the skills to do the repairs with kids in school do the repairs? Or, God forbid, do without using it until the time it can be repaired? I bet the local government and school will find that money if not the parents and past alumni? Either way this county needs to show up in great numbers before they let the board vote to raise property taxes as the "only" alternative.
The bottom line is that you are too stupid!
The county spent $2 million in the past two years. Mandatory? No! They should do some cutting of current budgets before they even think about raising taxes in these lean times. Do you remember hearing these commissioners say they would only raise taxes to get water across the county. when it comes down to a vote of the commissioners to fund the Sam Davis park, be aware they will have already decided amongst themselves how the vote will go and a simple majority will be all it takes.
Wasnt that big of the commissioners to cut back their meeting attendance fees by half? That only passed by the skin of their teeth. Terry Harwell proposed cutting out the fees altogether, but that didnt pass. Of course, this is only for the committee meetings they observe at not the committees of which they are members. Would you believe they all get a copy of the meetings Minutes as well.
Back to the Sam Davis park. I believe WAB posted on this blog a while back a schedule that the schools could live with by sharing Richland field. We need a large group of people to get together and start to protest what is going on in city and county government. Anybody out there seriously interested? Its easy to say on this blog you would join in but when it came right down to it would you really be willing?
A large group of protesters would be better than a small band of whiners. wouldn't you think?
On another subject ... I would like to know how much the county has paid in deductibles for lawsuit settlements since Janet Vanzant has been elected. I would like a case by case analysis on the total settlement amount and the amount of deductible paid by the taxpayers per suit. Anybody got this information to post here?
I thought the people that were elected to public office were supposed to do what the people of the town wanted done. It seems a little strange to me that the people voted against the sales tax, but now they are telling us that if we don't vote for the sales tax, that they will just raise our property taxes. Sounds like a threat is the only way they can get it passed. What happened to the vote of the people?
The boss don't ask the sheep if they want to be sheared he just gets the clippers sharp and the sheep just lines up. The land of milk and honey is filled with the sheeps of the masters. Wab was the ram, ain't nobody talks up the way he does but he ain't got no help so now he just lays in the corner.
To 12;53 PM
If you want to know that info submit a letter to the county attorney under the Freedom of Information Act .
ALL government actions and information is public property , paid for by the people for the good of the people .
If they refuse to tell you then go see the District attorney. If that does no good write to the state attorney general and send copies of your letter to all the Nashville TV channels
The longest journey begins with one step so "whiners" on a blog or protesting on the streets or just one person telling one other person is a wave. It is time to vote so why not put that vote to good use. Find the person willing to listen to the wants of the people. If the people in Giles County want to raise taxes to pay for Sam Davis it will be done. I am not big on protesting or a letter writing campain so I guess that makes me a "whiner"? It pays to know who is really on which side and how devoted to change are they? How many times have the people of the county been indignant in opinion and voted for the same people or supported the same things? Or worse done nothing at all. That makes me an activist and the ones calling those on here "whiners" the same ones who want to stop change and stifle opinions. FREE SPEECH ZONE means just that for as long as you can afford a computer, a connection, and a home or rental in this county.
Are you syggesting that people must be indignant in voting for certain candidates? Isn't that their right to vote for whomever they wish?
I think I get it. People are free to speak their minds as long as they agree with you? If that's the case, it would make you a whiner, wouldn't it?
This "Free Speech Zone" should be for people to voice their opinions. Not to slander people or say things about someone that has nothing to do with their jobs or the one they are hoping to win through election. A persons private life should be just that--private. If you have an opinion different from someone else then say so but don't call people names. Mama said if "You can't say something nice don't say nothing at all!!
No! No! No! If you read back another anonymous (11:48) said, "A large group of protesters would be better than a small band of whiners". In response I wrote that the line is blurred in what is a "whiner" for the methodology and what is actually someone speaking up and out using another medium (blog,letter writers,etc.).
Slander is another matter as is a person's private life. I am not in favor of bashing anyone for the sake of free expression. At what point do you cross the line? In this day and time running for office inherits a certain amount of scrutiny. Not a "slice and dice" campaign but a level of professional and ethical scrutiny for the job they wish to obtain. If you want to be elected for anything you expect that you are running openly with your level of expertise in full view. No name calling or mud slinging but a good dose of honesty and integrity all around.
FYI for slander and libel definition:
"slander :
A type of defamation. Slander is an untruthful oral (spoken) statement about a person that harms the person's reputation or standing in the community. Because slander is a tort (a civil wrong), the injured person can bring a lawsuit against the person who made the false statement. If the statement is made via broadcast media -- for example, over the radio or on TV -- it is considered libel, rather than slander, because the statement has the potential to reach a very wide audience.
Where did this discussion on slander come from? Earlier in this thread it was suggested at least one of the candidates for tax assessor had been "running around on his wife". If this is fact, I would want to know about it. If a person cant be honest and above reproach at home I sure dont want him for my assessor and certainly would not want to vote for him.
No, it looks like you are just looking for some good juicy gossip. That statement could have been made about any one of the candidates. We all have skeletons hidden somewhere, even some of our best presidents have also been accused of something in the past.
Wrong. I am not looking for juicy gossip and opposed to it. But if there really is one or more of the candidates running for assessor who has a dishonest streak (infidelity) I as a voter should know about it. Dishonest at home, always dishonest.
Well hell, why don't you just call them up and ask them or their wives, if you are so worried about what goes on behind closed doors. You maybe a flawless person and able to cast stones, but as for myself, I am more concerned about their qualifications.
I was in Wal-Mart today with my daughter getting school supplies and we stopped to talk to one of the older gentlemen that sits outside. We got to talking about everything that was going on and he preceded to tell she and I about Terry Harwell coming in there and making a scene because he was wearing one of the other candidate's hats. Now unless you are blind, these little old men do not work there. They are as harmless as the day is long. This man loves nothing more than to be able to sit there and socialize with people. He loves it as much as he loves sitting in the stands at nearly every Bobcat game supporting our kids. He was really upset over this incident and meant not harm. It is bad when you have to resort to bullying the senior citizens to keep from losing votes.
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This statement is completely WRONG. I KNOW FOR SURE BECAUSE I WAS THERE when Butch was spoken to about the cap. Terry Harwell did NOT go to Wal Mart and make a scene about Butch's cap. Terry Harwell was nowhere near Wal Mart.
Now, since the cap in question was an advert for Tommy Hyatt's campaign I have to wonder if Tommy Hyatt or someone very close to him made the above ERRONEOUS statement.
Candidates seem to be taking advantage of Butch and the time he spends sitting at Wal Mart. Dont ya'll recall a couple of years ago a candidate had Butch wearing a tee shirt on his behalf. Wal Mart management put a stop to it then. Before you INCORRECTLY accuse and slam Terry Harwell, you might find Wal Mart (and many other businesses) have a policy against this kind of thing. Butch was either confused or assumed Terry Harwell made a complaint about the cap. Its just not true.
Anonymous 453. Why such a violent reaction. No I'm far from perfect and have no desire to throw stones, but honesty and integrity is a qualification that most employers (in this case people of Giles County) are looking for in the man who gets this job. Sorry I hit a tender spot with yourself.
if a person can't keep their business at home straight they sure won't be able or disciplined enough to take care of business for the county. If you ain't faithful to your spouse you sure ain't gonna be faithful to a bunch of strangers.
A person who i assume is in the "know" told me that Giles County passed a resolution requireing everyone who is considering a renovatiopn, addition or new construction is required to get a building permit. i told them that there was no way in HE_ _ that the Giles County Commission would pass such a resolution.
They told me that it was quietly passed and that all construction requires a building permit. It has something to do with flood control????
I asked who is the person or office that issues such permits and they did not know, but assumed that it would be the tax assessor.
Does anyone know what is going on? What is this all about? or is this just another "story"?
The old gentleman who loiters at WalMart is far from an innocent. He has been asked to stay away from several places for very GOOD reasons. Sometimes one uses old age as an excuse to do some very distasteful things. If WalMart chose to allow him to be in their store 24/7 with a candidate's cap on all candidates should be allowed to loiter inside the store campaigning. The point is, and I work at WalMart, management allows a lot to go on outside but NOT inside. Mr. Lawhorn knew exactly what he was doing. Or maybe he didn't and Tommy Hyatt was just using him. Whatever the reason, the other candidates had more respect than to wear their shirts, caps, stickers, buttons, and hand out cards INSIDE the store. Mr. Lawhorn used bad judgement as did Mr. Hyatt. As am employee of WalMart I get tired of having to walk around the old gentleman. Sure, he enjoys being there. But we have a job to do and other customers to serve. He is always standing around the greeters at the door or walking in front of the cash registers. I agree with the store manager that he SHOULD NOT be allowed to wear campaign items INSIDE the store. Mr. Hyatt lost my vote because of his choice in this matter. And, for your information, it was not another candidate who brought this matter to the store manager's attention. It was mine, a WalMart employee!!!!!!!!
I have also heard about having to have a building permit for an addition, but I don't know if it had anything to do with flood control.
anonymous of 7/28 and 7:29
your first mistake was stopping to talk with buster while your daughter was with you. second was believing anything he said for fact much less posting it on here. evidently mr. hyatt knew little about who he was asking to wear his cap.
can also verify that anonymous of 8:41 p.m. on 7/28 is correct as harwell is in rotary club with me and we were at the agri park working the horse show all day long (till after midnight). don't think he could have been at walmart and the agri park at the same time unless he is also a magician.
If the elderly gentleman really liked his ability to sit inside WalMart and watch the goings on for company or whatever he should have more sense not to mention respect not to jeopardize his being allowed to do so. In other words he should know better than to try to visibly campaign for someone the whole time he hangs out there near the front of the store which is every time I go there. After all it's not like Hyatt needs a walking signboard. I bet he's spent thousands and thousands of dollars on signs that are plastered all over the county. Next thing you know he'll tie two of those signs together at the top and put the billboard across someone's shoulders to wear as they walk around inside WalMart. Now there's an idea. Jokes aside the WalMart employee who posed on here earlier should tell the store manager that the old gentleman is stopping customers to spread campaign rumors. He shouldn't be allowed to do that either inside the store. Seems to me he is there to stir up trouble and not just to while away the time.
7/29 - 8:11 What are you talking about? Building permits? No way! Are you trying to say that the Commissioners passed a resolution requiring everyone to get a building permit? Why?
Are they trying to sneek a zoning law past us? When did they pass this resolution?
Who knows what this is all about?
McGill suposedly has experience .... GOD help us. Harwell as a degree ....Ok?
What do Fralix, Jackson, and Hyatt have in experience or education that qualifies them to be tax assessor.
What is the pay. I bet it is over $54,000.00 per year?
The Commissioners passed a Land Use Management Policy (Zoning) in 2003. Dont ya remember Roger Reedy headed up that committee? A group of citizens in Giles Co promptly filed a lawsuit against the county. It has "sat" with no action for almost 5 years. The County Attorney contacted the attorney representing the folks on the lawsuit and pursuaded them to withdraw it because the county wants to exercise the Land Use Management policy, specifically against the housing developers. But my htought is if they start enforcing the policy, they will have to do it against everybody in the county. Who will enforce it is anyone's guess. We sure dont need VanZant involved in any way as she would pay favorites and not stick to the law in every case.
Let me ask a question about zoning that NONE of the anti-zoners have ever answerewd to my satisfaction. How has zoning hurt anyone? If it has, please explain how. Thanks.
Let me give you an answer about zoning that YOU seem unable to comprehend. No one has been harmed by the zoning ordinance because it has not yet been enforced. It's like no one has ever been cut by an imaginary knife.
Mr Barrett, could you start a new topic on the Land Use Management policy? Tkz
I live out in the county, and zoning or whatever you want to call it has not hurt me one bit. So don't be a puzzlewit!
I understand that the Land Use resolution has nothing to do with a resolution passed in 1999 and again last year that requires everyone to get a building permit when doing any construction. this was required by FEMA. and is required for Giles Conty to keep its flood insurance.
Mr. Barrett why have not heard anything about this?
An immediate investigation will be forthcoming. Right, wab?
8:54, you are a real nut case. No one can have a discussion about anything without you making some kind of remark about Mr. Barrett. I for one am tired of your stupidity.
So, you resort to calling me a name. How charming of you.
To 2:31 As Forrest Grump said, "Stupid is as stupid does" 1PM didn't call you a name they just read the sign around your neck describing your behavior. Allen Barrett
wab...
I see you are back to describing behavior. Laughable. Oh, but I'm not supposed to attack you on this "free speech" blog, so let me rephrase that. It appears that you are interpreting my statement differently from what was intended. That sounds much more palatable, wouldn't you agree?
All that stuff about pore old Buster. Has anyone of you noticed that he is suffering from dementia?
As for the employee that posted ..you never smile or speak to anyone who walks in & you have the nerve to try to say Buster bothered you?!
Yes i know exactly who you are. You are well know for your complaints.
Maybe you don't think people notice you but they do.
If i ever see you smile i'm gonna come right up to you & let you know that i made this post cos it will be the first time i ever saw you smile. you are a very unkind person to pick on a man with Alzheimers that is not progressed to the point that he cannot be let out in public.
A relative of Buster
Let me start off by saying that Buster has never done anything to anyone. I can not believe what your wonderful door greeter had to say about Buster. They need to smile more and take care of the door. Also the reference to being run off from several places is not true. That was a different man that drives a little red car. That was run off from Mickey D's.
Buster has not been run off from any place. Oh yeah Thank you Wal Mart Employee I will not be shopping at Pulaski store ever again. I will go to Dollar Store & Piggly Wiggly before I'll step foot in there ever again.
Now i'm going to copy & paste your nice post & these 2 & send them to Bentoville home office Thank you very much!
A relative of Buster 2
You're on the wrong path. I'm not a door greeter. Sorry to disappoint.
If Buster has dementia, then Tommy Hyatt and any other candidate having him wear apparrel is taking advantage of Buster. This is wrong for starts. Then does Buster have dementia or alzheimers? Two different deceases. If a person has alzheimers they do not go out by themselves.
This discussion has made the person who complained the bad guy. You should be looking to Tommy Hyatt who put Buster in this position in the first place. Discussion on this is not accomplishing anything. Buster was a vicitm and the person who complained is not a bad person. Look to Tommy Hyatt for the responsibility.
Forget about Buster, or any other bozo in the county. What about this building permit resolution? what is this all about?
Do we have to get a permit when we want to add a deck on our house, or build a work shop?
I have asked my commissioner (Tommy Campbell) and he said that he does not know of any county requirements for us to get a building permit.
but, i checked with the courthouse and there was a resolution passed last year that does require building permits for any and all new construction.
guess who sponsored the reolution? TOMMY CAMPBELL
GO FIGURE!
if not door greeter then you just told on yourself fer sure. post went to Bentoville all the same.
you want to talk about Buster let's talk about your daughter.
Who in the courthouse did you call about a building permit? You should talk to the County Executive and not one of her numerous secretaries cause they wont know the answer. Maybe its her office that has to come with building permits. But wait! Have we heard anything about this in the press? Better yet, call Scott Speer the county attorney, its his job to tell us.
I checked with the County Clerks office who keep copies of all resolutions passed by the county. Yup, they had a copy of the resolution passed by the commissioners (all of them voted YES) and sponsored by Tommy Campbell.
The title is "Flood Damage Prevention Resolution" and was passed by the county commissioners in July 2007. The county Executive had nothing to do with this resolution and she did not cast a vote. Ask Tommy Campbell he sponsored it.
Ask McGill he is in favor of it in that he would like to have permits for all construction making his job ever easier.
9;25 dementia is not a disease. It a condition caused by many diseases. Alzheimers make up 70 percent of dementia.
Who is Buster?
Buster? Last name Brown. Is the one I know. Used to be on television and advertise shoes. Oh, the other one. A kindly older gentleman who frequents WalMart and allowed himself to be used by Tommy Hyatt who asked him to wear a campaign hat for him while he was at the store. Or so Buster says. It's not like Hyatt don't have signs plastered all over the county and he needed a walking billboard too ??????? He shore is tryin to buy this election. Bet he's spent $5000 on signs.
what in the world is wrong with
you people? All of the nasty
comments that you make about the
candidates will follow them and
tarnish their reputations for
years to come whether true or not
what about their families? Did you
consider their feelings when you
did your dirty work? What is that
verse in the Bible- let him who is
without sin, cast the first stone?
A rumor ???????
Yea right !!!!!
Check with the County Clerk and ask for a copy of :
FLOOD DAMAGE PREVENTION RESOLUTION
GILES COUNTY, TENNESSEE
A RESOLUTION ADOPTED PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 13-7-101 THROUGH 13-7-115 OF THE TENNESSEE CODE ANNOTATED, FOR THE PURPOSE OF REGULATING THE FLOODPLAIN AND FLOOD PRONE AREAS OF Giles County, TENNESSEE, TO MITIGATE AND MINIMIZE DANGER TO LIFE AND PROPERTIES AND TO ESTABLISH ELIGIBILITY IN THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM (NFIP).
This was passed in July 2007 and sponsored by Tommy Campbell.
This resolution makes it a requirement that all new construction MUST HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT issued by the county (maybe the tax assessor) and if you do not have a permit, you can be fined and/or taken to court.
SOME RUMOR !!!!!!!!!
The Bible also teaches us to turn the other cheeck and pray for those who despitefully use us. Right? It does NOT teach us to try to smear and malign those we disagree with. Right?
The railway for which Tommy Hyatt works purchased $2,500 worth of signs for him. Its in the disclosure records. Guess they'll get some tax breaks huh?
Maybe a building permit is required if the intended wants to build in the flood plain???
well, from everything that I read
on this site, it seems to me that
the majority of people commenting
on the candidates aren't very familiar with what the Bible says
about how to treat one another. If
they were, they would think about how they would feel if someone
said such nasty things about them. Hey folks remember that on judgement day you will have to account to God for every word that
came from your heart through your
mouth or keyboard. This is only
an election. Is it worth risking
your soul to slander someone?
This thread is not about the Bible its about an election.
you are so right it is about an
election so why is there so many
negative comments and personal
attacks on the candidates? But on
the other hand if you are a
christian the Bible is a major part
of everything that you do even
choosing the best man for the job in an election.
I can tell you why there is so
much slander directed toward the
men in this race, it is because
people are so ignorant and uneducated, they cannot discuss the
issues involved in this election
without mud-slinging. They are so
insecure in themselves that they
have to tear someone else down to
feel good about themselves. They
do not have the guts to put themselves out to run for public
office so they have to try to
bring these men down to their
level.
t
t
TO: Thursday, July 31, 2008 8:17:00 PM - you hit that nail on the head !!! Great comment to the heart and soul of the vast majority of these blubbering idiots!
Maybe the railway for which Tommy Hyatt worked purchased signs to get his lazy ass off of their payroll and onto the county's.
I worked with Tommy at the highway department, he is worthless. You think McGill is never inside the building because of smoking, etc. Tommy Hyatt will be farming, hauling cattle, and messing around on his wife on the county dollar.
Some of the bloggers say that this kind of remark is slander...it is only slander if it is not true. I've seen Tommy in action with my own eyes. This is a fact of how he behaves.
If you vote for Tommy Hyatt...you get what you get. A LOSER!!!!
Building permits are required regardless of location. In a flood plane or not you are required to get a permit.
whoo-eee Tommy Hyatt, you must have
them really worried that you are
going to win, because they sure
are giving you alot of notice! I
don't know Mrs. Hyatt personally
but I hear she is a really nice
decent person and I am sure that
she woul love to hear what you
have to say, IF you have proof of
names, times, places. If not then
SHUT UP!!! Everyone is sick of
hearing it. All you are doing is
creating sympathy for Tommy and
gaining him my vote!
Interestingly, clearing out my computer, found copy of resignation letter received in July last year from Pierre Billard, the then VOLUNTEER Emergency Manager Director, in which he tells of EM office closing due to funding being taken away by action of Commissioner Stoney Jackson. Do we really need this kind of person as our Tax Assessor? Shows me he does not look out for the interests of the public.
If you have forgotten Mr Jackson is on the budget committee that has spent a hundred thousand dollars on the EMT position this year, he voted for each expenditure. Doing away with a volunteer and replacing him with an expensive sub sounds like good Giles County reasoning.
Sounds like a hidden agenda to me. Gets rid of volunteer director Pierre Billard and eliminates the part-time deputy director by removing funding. Once they are gone, votes for a full-time director, Barry Whitt, votes for an updated SUV for Whitt, votes for Whitt an office in the Sun Trust annex, votes for Whitt to have a funded deputy. Give me a break. Then he expects votes?
Leslie Hyatt is a wonderful person. I feel really sorry for her.
Glad that hearing that Tommy Hyatt is a cheater, liar, and Loser was able to influence your support and vote for him.
SAYS A HELLUVA LOT FOR THE KIND OF PERSON YOU ARE.
Ask anyone who worked with Tommy Hyatt at the highway department. Noone there could stand him because he was a smart-ass and didn't take responsibility for his job. He was Pete Britton's golden boy and didn't work half of the time. As I said he farmed and hauled cattle most of the time...when he wasn't messing aroung on the nice lady ..Leslie.
Grow up...this is not the kind of person you want representing you county.
Leslie Hyatt is a wonderful person. I feel really sorry for her.
Glad that hearing that Tommy Hyatt is a cheater, liar, and Loser was able to influence your support and vote for him.
SAYS A HELLUVA LOT FOR THE KIND OF PERSON YOU ARE.
Ask anyone who worked with Tommy Hyatt at the highway department. Noone there could stand him because he was a smart-ass and didn't take responsibility for his job. He was Pete Britton's golden boy and didn't work half of the time. As I said he farmed and hauled cattle most of the time...when he wasn't messing aroung on the nice lady ..Leslie.
Grow up...this is not the kind of person you want representing you county.
To the poster who smeared Tommy Hyatt..
I don't even know Mr. Hyatt, but I do know that your smearing his name is shameful. You prove an earlier point that innocent people (inthis case, his wife and kids) get hurt by such tactics. Can you not see that? Shame on you!
Why was Mr. Billard a volunteer rather than asking for pay? Did Barry Whitt demand funding rather than accept working as a volunteer and without funding? It appeared as though he supported Mr. Whitt and getting that position as a paid one? Is that not correct? If not, then what took him so long to resign? You get a lot of attention as a volunteer and certainly Mr. Billard had a lot of press exposure as did the EMS. It sounds like sour grapes to me? But, I am not on the inside track of knowing what happened during all that. Anyone who is care to comment?
August 2, 2oo8 1:05 pm:
Tommy Hyatt is running for public office....he is presenting himself as somebody that he is not to be elected by people like you to serve the county citizens.
Do you not understand that I am not the one that is hurting his wife and child...he is!!!
I am just bringing the facts to the people so they can make their own judgement.
I did not make Hyatt cheat on his wife...but I saw him making the arrangements to do it and then bragging about it.
You are the one that thinks that it is okay to lie to the public and to your spouse...not me. Elect him and you "WILL" be sorry.
Character in public officials is what the previous blogger is talking about.
I do not know Tommy Hyatt either, however, I have to question what is being said. I intend to talk to individuals that know him personally. Including highway department employees. People that work with you are pretty good judges of character.
I had intended to vote for Mr. Hyatt, but I believe I will do a little more research.
As a citizen, I do not want another Tee Jackson or Janet Vantzant in office. Deception in character whether personally or professionally is something that Giles County does not need anymore of.
Please research your vote. This is your tax dollars that will be spent.
Any "puplicity" that Pierre Billard received was the result of reports in the newspaper of incidents that had happened in the county. The way I remember it, Mr. Billard had requested funding for a part-time deputy who would have been ready to take over the reigns when Mr. Billard eventually resigned from his volunteer position. The deputy hired was Jimmy Stewart, who I believe was something to do with the police dept in Elkton(?). He was on the job a very short time before Stoney Jackson made motion for funding of the deputy position to be removed from the budget. It was after that action that Mr. Billard resigned as volunteer director. I also recall reading that Jimmy Stewart took a police academy teaching job out West somewhere. Then it picks up with Barry Whitt.
Someone out there correct me if my memory does not serve me correctly.
To Aug. 2, 1:05 pm
Yes you are hurting his family by
your comments, who elected you to
be judge and jury? What kind of
person are you to make comments
about someone whether they are true
or not? I don't think you are any
better than what you are accusing
him of doing. As for his wife, I
hope she is not reading this trash!
Give her a little credit, if this
stuff is true, do you not think
she knows already? WOMEN ARE NOT
AS STUPID AS SOME MEN THINK THEY
ARE You need to get a life and
stay out of other people's
business.
To Aug 2, 12:34pm
If you are on a first name basis
with Mrs. Hyatt, I would like to
know how you can make these comments for the world to see?
A true friend would never do such a
thing. You sound like a jealous,
vindictive person who wants every
one to be as miserable as you are.
Only a fool has diarrhea of the
mouth and thinks he/she has to tell
everything that he/she suspects.
Scanning through topics and comments on this blog, commissioner Stoney Jackson seems to be mentioned a lot and not favorably. Passing through Minor Hill yesterday I had expected to see the area saturated with political signs for Stoney Jackson. Not so. Seemed to be less than his competition. Does this all add up to Jackson perhaps not being a very popular personality? I wont vote until election day, still undecided between 3 candidates. Somebody out there give me something positive to base my vote on.
If they finally did get funding and backed that department it would seem a positive thing? Probably not to Pierre Billard or Jimmy Steward but at least to Barry Whitt. Mr. Billard being a voluteer seems odd and if he appointed a deputy maybe they just wanted someone else?Sadly people do tend to trust and value paid employees over volunteers. They feel it is hard to see someone putting in long hours and hard work for free without a catch. Or, was it something personal with Stoney Jackson and Peirre Biilard? At any rate voters are probably not going to select Stoney Jackson. His name has hardly come up on here (pro or con).
August 2: 9:44 & 10:01,
Judging from you defending Tommy Hyatt and his actions I would say you are talking from experience...
Question is "Are you the "CHEATER" or "THE CHEATED ON"!!!
Either way you are not understanding what I am trying to say. Tommy Hyatt is not a "quality" person who deserves to be paid with my taxdollars. You have the right to vote as you please, I am just trying to tell you that I know Tommy and he is a low-down person. He would and has hit on his best friends wife. You ask me how I know...because it was my brother's wife.
Vindictive ..yes..with Cause..yes!
My nieces & nephews live in a broken home and Tommy played a part in that.
So don't put me down..until you first put yourself in my place.
This trashing of a candidate is even worse than what the "encounter group" does to those elected officials they dislike or resent. It needs to stop.
I voted for Bluegill and so did my extended family...like that or not!
Shame on Tommy Hyatt if he was unfaithful to his wife. That does not mean he is not qualified for tax assessor, that is his personal life.If all elected officials and school teachers who have cheated on their spouse were removed from office,the payrolls would sure go down. When we vote we must ask ourselves who is most qualified and who will represent the taxpayers best.
12:21 Will you somone please tell me an "encounter group" is?
A persons professional life is a reflection of their personal life. A person without the discipline and maturity to control their personal life sure as hell can't be trusted to take care of my business or represent me.
To aug 2, 10:01
I am not defending anyone and their
actions, true or not. what I am
trying to do is put a stop you
anonymously trashing him and
hurting his family. If you are as
hurt as you say you are, then go
to his wife privately and do your
dirty work or do you have the guts? Why should I or anyone else
believe what you are saying if
you do not have enough character
to sign your name or prove what
you are saying? Does 2 wrongs make
a right? You are hurt so you have
the right to hurt someone else by
your vindictiveness? You need to
hit your knees and beg forgiveness
for being a pot-stirrer and a
trouble maker. Also I have to
wonder if you aren't a woman
scorned, Hell hath no fury like
a woman scorned. Maybe you were the one who wanted to play games
and got turned down.
T
No one should approach the deceived victim and tell them what the spouse is doing. Most spouses already know it in their heart but want to deny it.
Sign me Been a Victim
McCain has a temper, Obama used Cocaine, Clinton didn’t Inhale, etc... No-One is perfect. The good Lord forgives people, and clearly so do voters (cite examples listed above). If Mr. Hyatt has problems at home, he should deal with them at home. As much as the poster above wants to believe that the rumors he is spreading are relevant, they are not.
Yes they are. If he cant be trusted at home how could he ever be trusted on the job? And remember, theres never smoke without a fire.
CHEATING IS A VERY STONG LACK OF CHARACTER. cHARATER IS WHAT WE LACK IN THE PRESENT ROLE OF ELECTED OFFICIALS.
WASTED MONEY, DECEPTION IN OFFICE, LIES, DECEIT, AND ON AND ON..
Give me a break. This is your chance to look at the character of this candidiate. Ask Questions of the people who know him best.
His wife..knows..will she stand up for herself..doubt it.
I know..so you know...will you stand up for yourself...dount it. You like Leslie will pay in the end.
Why will you not admit that a "Cheater" is someone who does not need to be representing our county or its people..
I just don't get your defense of Tommy Hyatt.
Knowledge of the candidate gives you the chance to do research and find out for yourself.
How can you lay the blame of hurting Tommy's wife on me...I am not the one who has deceived her and broken a wedding vowel!!!
Think about it.
If he would deceive his wife and child..what would he do to you the taxpayer????
Congratulations! The old devil has
won for now through you and your
evil speaking of another fellow
human being. The devil is smiling
right now. I am finished trying to
make you see that this is not the
way to handle this issue. The way
to handle it is by keeping your
nose out of personal issues and
sticking to politics. Just remember
the truth always comes out and the
devil will not win in the end.
I hope you can sleep well at
night considering all of the
damsge you have done. This is
supposed to be about an election,
not about your hurt feelings and
vengence. Vengeance is mine thus
saith the Lord. Another case of
ITS ALL ABOUT ME1
I agree totally with the poster who said what a candidate does in their personal life reflects on public office life. I'm sorry but I could not vote for someone knowing they have had an affair on their spouse. If you can't keep simple marriage vows what makes people think you can keep the vows to public office. A cheat is a cheat. Someones character is a big deal when they run for office-a cheat in my opinion is a big character flaw. And yes the Lord says to forgive but he also tells us to be good stewards of money and putting someone in charge of spending that you know is a cheater is not being a good steward. Would you give your checkbook to someone you knew was a cheater-I think not. When someone runs for commissioner or even a school board member you are essential handing over Giles County's checkbook to them. You need to trust the person you vote on explicitly, for they are taking care of your money-if you wouldn't trust them with your personal checkbook why would you trust them with with your public one?
And by the way unless you are a very trusted friend of the one being cheated on it's not wise to go to them and tell them anything.
One Who Knows
Could one of the other candidates wife be making some of these post?
Aug.4-9:35 am,
Which wife are you accusing of cheating with a candidate?
Well it seems that Stoney Jackson, Tommy Hyatt, Jim Fralix and Steve McGill won't be elected. That leavs one Terry Harwell.
What's with Stoney Jackson and this guy Pierre Billard? Never heard of Billard. But reading what has been posted it seems that Jackson has a problem with Billard and favors Whitt? However Billard was, if he was a real volunteer and dis not get any kickbacks or under the table pay why get rid of him? Don't we need volunteers to support the county?
Don't know about Billard but I have heard that nothing gets done in the Minor Hill area without Jackson knowing about it, approving it, and getting something anything in return. If Jackson doesn't get a kickback or payment, he is against it.
I dont know Tommy Hyatt personally but I can say this...........He is the ONLY candidate for Tax Assessor who has personally asked for my vote and he did that by coming all the way out to my house.......I'm way down in the county and very close to another county..... I have not seen ANY of the other candidates at all....Nor have I even been approched by any of them out in public. I was in the county clerks office last week and Stoney Jackson was in there, he knows exactly who I am and never said a word to me about my vote nor did he even speak...I was at the ball parks earlier in the spring......Terry Harwell and Blue gill were everywhere.I got the same from them. I havent seen Mr. Fralix at all.....Therefore.....Tommy Hyatt will get my vote. As far as him cheating on his wife...that is NO ONE'S business!!! I say that bc I have been cheated on by my spouse and everyone, in my opinion is entitled to a 2nd chance....If this is true and his wife chose to forgive him...that is between them. The unfortunate incident that happen to me is between myself and my spouse and no one else. I cant stand it when someone says to me I cant believe ya'll worked through that and you're really ok. I dont waste my time trying to convince them bc I truly dont care what they think. People can realize their wrongs and turn things around in their relationships. My spouse and I are very glad, 20 yrs later we chose to stay together and work on our marriage. We are more in love and better friends now than we were before the incident. We are not alone..alot of others couples have worked through their issues as well. Who's to say IF this happened that the Hyatt's arent another couple who worked through their issues as well. Being someone who has lived through adultery.......it is humiliating, its painful, it throws you into a whirlwind but sometimes out of all of that......life gets better if you work at it bc both of you learn a lesson in what happened and you both dont let it happen again. I think it is very sad that some people have nothing better to do than slam and slander someone else. Makes me feel sorry for them. VOTE TOMMY HYATT!!!
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