Ethics Committee Members?
Members of the Ethics Committee are Commissioners Flacy, Woodward, Pollard, J.Harwell and Carol Wade.
This is probably the most efficient committee named since they have not officially met since their inception. They have never met to discuss a single instance of conflict of interests, to examine the true residence of the County Executive, the public behavior of Commissioners or any other issue that would normally fall under the responsibility of an Ethics Committee. Allen Barrett
This is probably the most efficient committee named since they have not officially met since their inception. They have never met to discuss a single instance of conflict of interests, to examine the true residence of the County Executive, the public behavior of Commissioners or any other issue that would normally fall under the responsibility of an Ethics Committee. Allen Barrett
posted by Allen Barrett | 10:19 PM
39 Comments:
They need to be meeting their is to many holding offices with conflict of interest. To name a few Holt, Mike Young, Jackson, Vanzant and I am sure their is more. One good thing is their not meeting everyday to collect commissioner salary.
ETHICS on the commission and school board? Are you kidding me? Pollard and Harwell cannot even spell the word with their lack of education.
Evidently 1:09 you know know the meaning of words. Sounds like a Speer fan to me.
you are very wrong 1:32
he needs to be removed along with the morons on the county commission. when are people going to wake up
Pollard and Harwell has done and tried to do more for the county since they have been a commissioner than 3/4 of the commissioners have in years. This county government is buddy buddy system. How one votes his how their buddy will vote. Holt, Jackson and Campbell are three of the sorry commissioners we have.
2:30 Agree with you, especially on Pollard. Stoney Jackson used to vote more for what might benefit the tax payers until his sons got employed with the city. Now he agrees with Lovell and Campbell beforehand how they are going to vote then runner stamps it. Bet if Campbell and Lovell came up with a wheel tax again Jackson would vote for it. Forgot Billy Holt. Include him as voting the same way without fail.
Yea, Tommy Pollard and Terry Harwell are listening to the people. That's call Democracy. (OF THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE!) Thanks you guys! Hang in there! Need more like them and less like Campbell, Holt, Jackson, and Lovell. Go Home you guys and stay home. County residents are better off without the likes of you!
5:34
Give us a hint. Who would you like to see in their places?
Anyone with good ethics and morals could beat what some of these commissioners are doing. They seem to forget that they are supposed to be representing the people of Giles County.
Remember, ethics and morals are not the same, and do not always coincide. The ethical thing is not always moral, and vice versa.
109 is either the javelin or "no money". Pollard & harwell have enough ethics & morality to compensate for anything else you can name! A javelin & "Nomoney" proves that no amount of education guarantees anything useful in society.
Who would choose a slick tongued snake over someone you can trust and rely on? toss a pointed stick in a manure pile & what do you get?
You are the taxpaying employer of the industrial recruiter. You pay very well. Why would you expect part time work for very good full time pay. Lots of travel. New vehicle. The commission should if fixed the problem years ago. Bout time! My guess is you are the recruiter or his family who keeps jumping on here. Could be a friend member of the development board. Taxpayers can't be that stupid.
It's just another face the county has added to make us think they are trying to do the right thing. It's just a joke since at least one of the members is a school system employee and he ain't gonna buck Tee Jackson.
7:45
Just another face......smacks of deception? Hardly so. The reason you call it a joke and suggest something sinister is because the faces in power are not those of your choosing. That's "my guess."
If you had read the post it says that they have not met since the committee was formed. So what would you call it? No it's a joke because they have like most of the other committees sat back and let certain people have their way and ignored what the voters are asking for! If it were a serious committee they would have met and at least talked about what has been going on in theis county and why the taxpayers are so upset with the county/city government!!!!!
The taxpayers who are upset with city and county government have been masterfully led to a level of hatred that I've never seen here before. Sure, there are things wrong in any government, because it is operated by human beings. But being constantly in a rant about this person or that person being a crook, liar, thief, etc. will cause the distrust and hatred we are seeing here in this county today. It's as simple a concept as planting seed and watching them grow.
I truly and honestly believe that the person behind all this should be totally ashamed.
Agreed. I think that sowing discord, hatred, and contentions among men are in no way related to true Christianity. No way!
10/4/09
7:49 And I truly and honestly believe that the people who are behaving less than honest and ethical with public trust and tax money are the ones who should be ashamed and my definition of Christianity includes someone who is not afraid to take a stand for morality, regardless of the cost.
But I will give you this: you are probably right that there would be no discord and anger if it had not been mentioned here. We would all be ignorant and blind to immoral, unethical and/or criminal behavior of public officials. So from that perspective, you are correct. There are those who sow seeds of discord. (Thank goodness, that they have more courage than me) Of course if I were TRULY concerned with Christian behavior, I would not spout off here anonymously. I would do as the BIBLE commands me to do and go to that person, that is if he signed his name to an offending post, (oh wait, he does) as the Bible commands me to do and take a witness and discuss it with him privately and not try to publicly ridicule him or her. So the question begs to be answered, are you more concerned with this person's Christian status as you CLAIM, or are you just impressed with your own "cleverness"? The instructions are clear regardless of where your concern lies.
1:09
Touchy, aren't we? As far as my "perspective" goes, I stand by every single word I entered in my 7:49 post. If you don't agree with it, then so be it. We just happen to disagree on our perspectives.
By the way, I am neither impressed nor concerned.
4:37
It would seem from the comments here that someone was concerned enough to log in here. Since you loged in you must have been concerned about something.
Think long and hard about it.
Melanie.
Melanie,
My statement was in response to the 1:09 post wherein I pretty much took the bait about another person's Christian status. You really should go back and read that post before you offer criticism.
I had already read it and I have read it again. I stand by my statement.
Melanie
melanie,
If you read that ridiculous post again, then you will recall that the writer accused me of the hypocrisy of "claiming" to be concerned about that person's Christian status and /or being impressed with my own cleverness. Those charges are false. That's why I stated that I am neither impresed nor concerned. I suppose the irony of it all is that I too was trying to point out some hypocrisy.
Anyhow, let's just agree to disagree without being disagreeable. I stand by every word I said.
To the anonymous 4 Oct 7:49AM poster.
I found your post very enlightening. Do you really think that one person could have stirred up what you refer to as "hatred".
My goodness have you not been paying attention, that's a rhetorical question, all over this country people are fed up with the high taxes, low services and corruption that overshadows most of the good that's done.
Perhaps the reason you have never seen so much dissatisfaction here is because either you finally just opened your eyes or finally the people are fed up with being treated like second class citizens paying the bills for the high living of others.
You admit there are things wrong with our government but you are unwilling to do anything to correct the problems, to hold people accountable or look at situations in anyway other than how those in charge tell you. Humans have failings and when they have no accountability they have no reason to correct those failings. A thief seldom stops being a thief as long as they get away with it. Either they get caught or their conscience overcomes their will to steal.
Distrust results when others act in less than honorable ways. Anger results when a person feels they have been made a fool of. People for the most part have been betrayed by those they trusted and are angry those in charge have treated them like cash cow fools.
If I have had a part in planting the seed that grows into a change that betters this county I feel a sense of accomplishment.
You state, "I truly and honestly believe that the person behind all this should be totally ashamed". Based on your many previous rants against me I must now believe I am the subject you refer to. Not only am I not ashamed, that should be obvious since I sign my name to my posts, I have no remorse and feel excited and determined that greater accomplishments will be experienced as people become more involved and demand greater accountability. Thank you for your concern but no thanks. Allen Barrett
wab
Yes, I admit there are things wrong with our government at any and all levels, but I DID NOT SAY or imply that I would be unwilling to do anything about it. As a citizen, I exercise my right to vote on election day, and I do campaign for or against some candidates. However, I don't go around pointing fingers and calling people names. Do you?
Oh yes, I'd say you have been a great "sower of seed", somewhat akin to Johnny Appleseed. You say you are proud of what you've done, and I would totally agree with that statement.
Don't thank me for my concern. You misunderstood me.
Where did WAB say he was proud of anything. Obviously just one more of your misconceptions, exaggerations and plain ole bigoted self righteousness. Are you really so shallow as to think you have done your duty by just voting on election day or even campaigning for or against certain candidates? I would remind you that Johnny Appleseed sure did a lot of good with his sowing and so has WAB. You on the other hand are like the crow that comes along and caws loudly while eating up the seed. In other words you have done nothing to better your community plain and simple.
I am 1:09, apparently the author of the "ridiculous post" referred to by 6:14 and numerous other times. I had to do a "double take" to see if I had actually done what you spouted off to Melanie (btw, Melanie, thanks for the backup).
Please copy and paste where I accused you of anything. I do have a habit of typing faster than I think sometime, but I think I said if you were concerned about the "troublemakers" spirituality, the Bible gives clear cut instructions on how to help that person. If that wasn't your goal to aid him, but rather humiliate, well I guess you, as we all are, are free to carry on as usual. I do find it odd that you feel it's more "unChristian" to stir up trouble than to take a stand for moral behavior. Just an observance there, and as an afterthought I am frequently amused when someone is caught with "egg on their face" there first response is generally something to the effect of "touchy aren't you?" Not always, but it happens enough for me to deduce that the person has no valid points and therefore decides to get personal.
5:20
When an individual says he feels a sense of accomplishment and that he or she is excited about the prospects of further "accomplishments", would you not say that person is proud of what he or she has done? If not, then why would statements like that be made?
You accuse me of being shallow because I don't go running through the streets calling people liars, crooks, and etc? I WILL NOT behave myself in such a manner.Perhaps yours and my definition of what constitutes good citizenry differs.
Should I advocate the staging of a coop, overthrow of the government, or what???? NO!
I find your remarks about Johnny Appleseed quite laughable. But I would agree with you that Johnny went about doing a lot of good.
10:36
I'll not even bother trying to reason with you. I know what I said and make no apology for it. Speaking of apologies, I'm still waiting for wab to apologize to me for calling me a liar with respect to a false charge he made against me.
And 5:10, I guess I can wait on your apology for the false charge and calling me a liar. That's probably why you don't want to reason with me. Your mind is made up and you do not want it clouded with facts.
6:31
Ok, I'll take the bait. Tell me what false charge I made and, if it's true that I made an erroneous statement, I will certainly apologize.
You said I accused you of hypocrisy. I did not do that. From my 1:09 post
You implied that I CLAIM to be concerned. That suggested that I was being hypocritical. Or, did I misunderstand you?
Yes you did misunderstand. I presented two options both of which all of us who post anonymously should consider. That is if we are concerned about another's standing with GOD because we don't like what they are saying, then we should follow the Bible's clear instructions regarding "admonishing" someone. If our motives are simply to post unfounded gossip or impress ourselves with our clever "zingers", we also have that option and can continue to post anonymously. I do consider it hypocritical to profess to worry about someone's salvation in one statement on here and in the next statement publicly ridicule them whether the charges are true or false. Most anonymous posters,including myself are guilty of that. But I did not call you a hypocrite, I merely pointed out what Christians are instructed to do according to GOD's word. And please before anyone goes ballistic, I included myself as a guilty party. I admit it. Only you, 9:05 know the truth about your motivation, concern or ridicule. And just for the record,I do not for one second believe I am intelligent enough to IMPLY anything. I am generally pretty blunt and believe in calling "a spade a spade."
Then you should be concerned that those who call people names and accuse them of wrongs need to admonish rather than try to destroy. Right?
May I have your apology as you promised in your 10/8/09 8:37 post?
3:26
Indeed you may not have my apology, because, in considering the matter, I don't owe you one. As I said in my 9:05 post, you implied that I CLAIMED to be concerned. Look up the word "hypocrisy" in the dictionary and then you will understand that you did, although not directly, accuse me of that. So get over it; I cannot apologize for something I don't honestly feel is owed.
4:06, I will cut and paste a few of our posts and prove that I never accused you of hypocrisy. Going back to the original thread, I only elaborated on what I would and then threw out a question to all who cared to read and ponder. There was no implication or accusation and to assume so is a most arrogant, egotistical and ignorant stance, OR a guilty conscious.
your post, verbatim:
6:31
Ok, I'll take the bait. Tell me what false charge I made and, if it's true that I made an erroneous statement, I will certainly apologize.
Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:37:00 PM
My post in which I allegedly called you hypocritical: (the entire post is too lengthy to recopy but if interested, this will make it easy to locate)
10/4/09
7:49 And I truly and honestly believe that the people who are behaving less than honest and ethical with public trust and tax money are the ones who should be ashamed and my definition of Christianity includes someone who is not afraid to take a stand for morality, regardless of the cost."
It is certainly well documented that you did indeed make an erroneous statement. You made a false charge, plain and simple. Now, time will tell if your word is worth anything and you will carry through on your promise to apologize or if you are far too arrogant to admit a simple mistake and continue to justify the false accusation with some fantasy spin of "implication."
8:43
I am responsible for the 7:49 post on October 4. Please tell me what the false charge might be. I stated my opinion and made no direct charge.
I apologize 12:11 am. I must have confused the times. I was speaking to the poster who said they would apologize if it was proven that they made a false charge(10/8/09 8:37). Of course it was proven that their word is worthless, but I have no problem apologizing when I make a mistake and I made one when I included your post in with their's. I hope you accept this, it was not intentional.
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