A Private School For Giles County?
There is some discussion taking place involving the possible start of a private school for Giles County. So far the idea is to provide classes for First through Third grades.
It was requested that a thread be started for a wider discussion of this matter.
Sounds like a great idea to me so here's your opportunity to share your thoughts on the subject. Allen Barrett
It was requested that a thread be started for a wider discussion of this matter.
Sounds like a great idea to me so here's your opportunity to share your thoughts on the subject. Allen Barrett
posted by Allen Barrett | 7:16 PM
49 Comments:
Congratulations to the organizers. Wish them well on this project. Maybe some families can afford it.
Would like to know who is involved as I could give them the names of some teachers they might be interested in talking to.
While a nice thought, there just arent enough folks in Giles County that are willing to fork out that kind of money to send their kids to a private school. Remember Highland Christian Academy????
I am a teacher who would like a teaching job closer to home--I live in Giles County, and although I pay taxes here to help pay for teacher's salaries--I can't seem to get a job in the public school system here. Wonder why?
I have actually heard Tee Jackson state he cannot get teachers for Giles which justifies him hiring those already retired (double dipping) and others he knows retired from Alabama. His statement is not true. Plenty of people willing to teach here. But, our school board has a lot to do with that.
I think what you may have heard Mr. Jackson say is that he has a difficult time finding teachers in some certification areas. By the way, that's true for many counties and in many states. That being the case, I would think he would be justified in hiring those who have the required certification, whether re-hires or not.
6:58 Wish that was the case. However I do know of a person with excellent character and no baggage in tow who fit the criteria exactly but was still overlooked and a retiree was brought in.
A private school would be great for this county. It would be a plus in bringing people in to this county, knowing they wouldn't have to put their children in public school. The people involved are very conscientious citizens wanting what is best for this county. The sad thing is that is going to start at the elementary level and work its way upward. Quite a few have already signed up for the fall semester. Many are willing to put money down to get it started. If the right people are behind it it will work.
7:27
Excellent post! I don't usually agree with the mud-slinging and etc. that goes on here, but yours is a great and positive post. Hopefully, this can happen.
These private school people need to look into the charter school business as I understand it Federal money will be sent down for the new Federal and Bredison alliance to help fund those charter schools. I have heard that there will be as many as one charter school approved for each county.
Don't know all the details but I am sure that those interested in private schools could find out if they make enough inquires.
I wish them luck. This might be the answer to some of education in Giles County's problems.
Melanie
Just a little food for thought. For those of you who believe public schools promote "favoritism" towards selective students based on their social status in the community, just wait until you become a part of the private school cult. Your child's education and popularity ranking will solely depend on the "extra" contributions offered by the parents & grandparents. The more you give the more you receive. For those of you who will have to pay by the month the chair in the far back left corner is reserved for your child. If you pay yearly up front with additional "sponsorships" you get to sit right in front of the teacher & as a bonus receive a starting spot on the rugby team. Bank on it. Happens at EVERY private school.
There are two problems at public schools that parents could solve easily. First centers around the fact that its the parents responsibility for the child to succeed in the classroom. Homework, test scores, & failure to comprehend certain parts of the subject should be identified every day. Parents should not wait until the report card comes out and then get involved. Making your child understand that school is not playtime. You sit. You listen. You learn.
The second part focuses on the teachers. Contact your elected officials and ask them to put a stop to TENURE. Who came up with the idea that after a determined period of time and performance that individual was guaranteed a job until retirement regardless of their performance? I work 15 years tightening bolts on aircraft wings and the next 15 I tend to miss a few here and there but I still get to keep my job. Where's the rational thinking in that? Their position should not depend on a single decision by a principal or politician but by a peer review board.
I adhere to the old saying "you have the heart of a teacher". Teachers have more influence on our future than anyone excluding the parents. If teachers thought they were choosing their profession to get rich then they made a bad decision. I would not have their job and I respect them tremendously. With that said I do hold them to a higher standard.
So unless you have big dollars to spend why not focus on improving the public schools? Advance knowledge is a result from experiencing information from a variety of sources. Being able to analyze the information received and determine the truth is where higher intelligence is derived from. You can run but you can't hide from the real world. Successful students and people focus on improving their surroundings.
11:34, What makes you think tenure guarantees anyone a job until they retire regardless of their performance? That is perhaps one of the biggest LIES promoted by people who are ignorant of the tenure law. (please understand that ignorant does not mean stupid; it means that you have no knowledge of the subject).Tenure offers a degree of job security, as any reputable employer should grant, but it is by no means a free ride; far from it.
Candy L.Dade
The private schools are in place basically so that you dont have to worry as much about your kids having to deal with other kids whose parents are morons. Its about parents wanting their kids to learn in a safe, non-threatening environment. Its about knowing (for the most part) that your kids are spending time with like-minded kids.
The education is no different, but the private schools usually have higher test scores b/c the kids there are mostly comprised of parents that take an interest in their kids lives. There is also not as much violence, drug, and overall 'thugness' that you see in MOST public schools.
I am a GCHS graduate, and my child is in a private school in maury county. I pay out the butt for it. There is no way that i would let her attend ANY public school in columbia, or GCHS for that matter. It isnt about the bad teachers....its more about the lack of control and discipline in the public schools. i know MANY that would love to put their kids in a private school in pulaski...sadly, most just cant afford it.
Ok Candy. Just what is the number of tenured teachers fired in Giles county in the last 10 years due to lack of performance?
8:27. Cracks me up. GCHS is out of control and no discipline. With two out and one still there I am still looking for "out of control". We have a very close friend who's daughters graduated from a private school in Columbia. 3.6 & 3.78 gpa's. Both were no better or worse than their fellow university students. If you think the lily white private schools in Columbia are beyond societal problems you are mistaken. The % of 420 friendly & alcohol partakers are just about even. Your kids will become adults that will have to deal with other adults on a day to day basis who may or may not be of the "moron" persuasion you speak of. What happens if they have never been exposed to the real world? Inquiring minds want to knoow.
LOL!!! i believe i already stated that the education is no different. There are(overall) more 'academically good students' in private schools than public, simply due to sheer numbers. Most parents arent gonna spend tons of $$$ for private schools if their kid can barely read. Therefor, they MAKE sure that their kids are doing the work(again, for the most part)..as opposed to public schools, where If the parent never takes an interest in their childs education, then most likely, neither will the child....and they will barely get by...and thats what brings down the test scores. I say that as a product of the public school system. There are MANY that work hard and learn as much as possible. However, there are more that do that...its simply a fact.
If you dont see it as out of control, then you arent looking very hard. I know parents, teachers, and even STUDENTS that state as such. I realize that no school is perfect(private or public) but some of the things that have been told to me(by all of the aforementioned) are shocking...absolutely shocking.
In regards to ummm.."lily white schools', you dont have a clue what you are talking about. I never said they were beyond societal problems. However, i can tell you that practically all of the kids (that i have seen) there are more respectful, courteous, and disciplined. I have also seen many in the public schools that are as well, but the problem is that there are at least as many(if not more) that are not.
I dont think that i am any better than anyone else, i simply want the best for my child(ren). I occasionaly drink, and so do most of my friends. What does that have to do with anyhing??? Sure, kids will definitely have to deal with adults of all persuasions, but as kids, they are very impressionable. Im betting if you had the opportunity, you would also send your kids to a better school.
In regards to 'morons' what i was referring to are parents that dont give a crap what their kids do...they dont discipline, they dont demand respect, they dont act like 'parents', in short, they simply use the educational system as a 'babysitter', and that is wrong, imo. Sadly, the majority of those kids end up just like their parents....i know...i see them everyday, and have for a VERY long time.
by the way, if you are on here, chances are that you take an interest in your kids education and development. Again, there are many more like you throughout giles county, but there are just as many that are the complete opposite.
where exactly is this new school supposed to be located???
This is Candy, and I have access to the information that I posted about, i.e. what is tenure and what tenure is not. However, I outgrew "anonymous" notes in 2nd grade and will not respond to someone who is "brave" enough to spout off, but not brave enough to sign their name to what they obviously want to be a "gotcha" situation.
Candy
I believe doing away with the tenure laws would have about the same effect as a recall provision in this so-called county charter. In either case, the employee or elected official could be dismissed and replaced with a friend or relative if what I hear about the charter is true.
I also believe the problems we are having in public schools can be placed at the feet of liberal politicians and apathetic parents. Kids can't be corrected or properly disciplined anymore, and teachers are not allowed the authority to do so. Parents who don't take the time to teach their kids anything send them to school, expecting teachers to take care of things. And that's not going to get better anytime soon. More importantly, that's the primary reason why so many teachers are getting out just as soon as they can. I know some who are continuing to do their jobs while counting off the days until they can leave or find other employment. Isn't it a pity?
Wow Candy. The 2nd grade. No way I will argue with ya being I didn't even know how to spell "anonymous" until about the 10th grade.
You see Candy. I cannot post my name because I lack the privilege to have the word "tenured" placed before my job title. Any public comments identified originating from the cranial in the first person would eliminate my ability to buy grocery's at Davis & Eslick. Plus, how could we possibly purchase all those bullet proof vests we have to buy for our child to survive the utterly out of control conditions at GCHS?
I still wonder what is the number of tenured teachers fired in Giles county in the last 10 years due to lack of performance?
9:45. Your words "some of the things that have been told to me" nails the reason I defend GCHS. Second hand information should always be required to have the works "warning" & "danger, danger" placed with them. I see. You heard. We experience first hand. You hear second hand. A trend here maybe?
In regards to "ummm.."lily white schools', you dont have a clue what you are talking about". Ummm. Yep we do. Got $57,386.00 worth of posted checks to a private to brag about. From someone who has walked the walk once, we do know. That's why we go the public route with strong home support. The best of both worlds.
Heart Day 7:27. "A private school would be great for this county. It would be a plus in bringing people in to this county, knowing they wouldn't have to put their children in public school". Yep. That's what brings so many new folks into Williamson & Rutherford counties. The private schools. NOT! People want good schools for their kids. Point well taken. So, instead of creating a "have & have not system", why not help with all your heart to make what is here now better? When you house needs paint and a roof do you abandon it and build a new one? Of course not. You fix it. Same for our schools. Roll up your sleeves. Gain 1st hand knowledge and be proud of your accomplishments.
Unless you are a teacher, yours aint firsthand...and 90% of my second-hand info comes from the teachers themselves....not mere acqaintenaces, but teachers that i personally have known for a very long time. Teachers that they themselves dont even want their kids to go to GCHS...a trend there??? oh you bet. Another friend works for health dept. Last month, during one single week, several teenage girls came in there that were pregnant...all from GCHS.
Glad you can brag about spending lots of dough...feel better now??? BTW, high school or college??? You see, i hate writing that check each and every month, but i do it b/c i want to do all that i can to ensure that my children have the best opportunities possible. Could they make it just fine with the public school??? Probably. I did, and so did my wife, but there are too many problems there that i am willing to take that chance.
Here is what i see at the private school(and some public schools, but NOT GCHS):
"yes maam/sir...no maam/sir"
Boys wearing tactful slacks/jeans
girls wearing appropriate clothes
"thank you" and "please"
Now, at GCHS, this is what i have PERSONALLY seen(just so you know):
"F* you, MF'er"(among other things)
Boys that wear pants down to their ankles.
Girls with clothes that look like they have been airbrushed on, along with makeup that would make a hooker blush.
Batant disrepect towards adults
And thugs everwhere
And sadly, so much more......
Its not about a have and have not system. While your intentions may be noble, as has been said, "you cant fix stupid." There are far too many people in this world that have no values, personal responsibility, morales, etc. etc. I want to try and keep my kids away from that for as long as possible. Those problems arent just relegated to Giles County, its everywhere. I actually prefer the community of Giles Co to Maury, but my job requires me to live here. My friends and the folks i hang out with(in pulaski, BTW), none have their kids in private schools. I actually have more in common, and would rather hang out with them b/c i have known them a long time, and they have strong values and are good parents. Id let my child grow up with them anytime. Its not those types of folks that i worry about. And ironically, NONE of them want their kids at GCHS, although that will be the case for most of them. However, a few of them send their kids to cornersville(public) or ardmore(public), both of which are VERY good schools.
10:52
Yours was an excellent post, and I totally agree with you. I have witnessed first-hand some of the things you mentioned about GCHS. I thought there was a dress code over there? No? And I've seen the thugs who wander the halls when they should be in classes. It makes one wonder about what kind of parents (or supposedly adults) live in their homes.
The main problem lies with liberal lawmakers who enable various media to bombard kids with trashy music that not only teaches immorality and vulgarity but a total disrespect for authority, including that of teachers. Liberals have also paved the way for the lack of discipline we see in schools. Teachers aren't allowed to jerk a knot in some punk's rear end should he or she smart off. And if much is said, the parent will come to school seeking the poor teacher's head on a platter.
The second ingredient in the problem lies with parents who just do not care. They send their kids off to school with a horrible attitude of disrespect (modeled for them by their parents) as well as being inappropriately dressed.
I would never allow my child to attend GCHS for the very reasons you listed. You are wise and also correct that the problem is practically everywhere. Perhaps America truly has been boiling frogs too long now
About 2-3yrs ago, i had my home for sale in pulaski. There was a nice family that was moving to the area(husbands job) and loved my house. It was slighly out of their price range, but they went to the bank, and made the arrangements to get a larger loan. That very day, they happened to ask Dan Speer about the schools here. He told them they were great, and that they should stop by one day 'to check them out'. They asked if they neeed to make an appt, and he told them "no, just drop by." As they had kids ranging from elementary to high school, they wanted to tour the schools. So they went by GCHS the very next day and while they were there, there were either 5 or 6 fights(cant recall exact number) and pulaski's version of the swat force(LOL) were there in full gear. That family decided NOT to move to pulaski, but in a nearby city. That is a fact, not hearsay.
SO the sagging britches, rap & hip hop, and early motherhood is so rampant at GCHS huh? Thugs just wondering the halls in between classes. Teachers siting behind plexiglas to protect them from the gangs & thieves. All happening at GCHS while Cornersville & Ardmore students sit up straight, don't drink or smoke, and play their gospel music no higher than a level 5. Alter children. Cracks me up.
I remember the days of Elvis, rock & roll, dancing, and a little white house near the scrap yard where many stopped to purchase a little spirits on the sly. Mini skirts and bra's of a color other than white. Sex before marriage. It had never happened before in history until the 60's & 70's at GCHS. Yep for sure we were all not going to amount to nothing. Going to hell & a hand basket we were. Doom & gloom. Run for your life. Run & hide. All the problems will disappear if my kids are not at GCHS. LOL.
Ok lets do a little exercise. Lets suppose all the teachers at GCHS comprise a list of 30 students that they believe should be removed from the high school permanently. Now, lets take the lists and compare them. I'll wager that 25 of the names would be the same. So. 25 students out of approx 950. That would equal to about 2.6% of the students. Lets say Cornersville only had 7 out of what? 300 I guess. That's 2.3%. CA. Since they only have perfect students lets say they want to rid themselves of 5 Baptists. 200 maybe equals to 2.5%. Golly good gosh almighty. The teachers at GCHS want their kids to go to the perfect student schools in which only 2.3% to 2.5% of the students create problems while the school they teach in has a whopping 2.6%. Yea I can clearly see the difference!
How do you rationalize labeling over 900 students bad apples with "moron" parents because of 2% of the student body not conforming to your beliefs? Yes you do when you refer to GCHS as a undesirable school for attendance of one's children. When you broadcast the opinion you label the 98% of good kids with good parents also. Inquiring minds want to know.
*** It was K through 12 & no I am not bragging. And I'm still "non-tenured".
You just dont get it. There are LOTS of good kids (with good parents) throughout giles county. I have said that time and time again. Many of them are the ones that really suffer b/c they have to deal with BS from the others. Some make it thru just fine, while others become a product of the system....remember, peer pressure is a very powerful thing, and while you would hope that teaching your kid right from wrong would shield them from trouble, we both know that it doesnt always work out that way. If you had a choice, of your kid going to school with 95% of the other kids with good, responsible parents OR going to school with kids where 65% of the parents are that way, while the rest are irresponbible(at best) which would you prefer???? inquiring minds want to know.
But if you think that there are only 25 or so bad kids at the high school..well, we can just disagree on that one. You are so far out in left field that it isnt even funny. In fact, if i didnt know you were serious, i would think you were trying to be funny.
You really dont believe that most of the teachers in this county dont want their kids at GCHS do you??? I know differently b/c they have told me so on many occasions. Some in the feeder schools are trying to decide where to move, so they can feel good about their kids going to school everyday. Do you seriously think that all of them are paranoid over nothing???? That in and of itself would give me a solid reason not to send my kid there. Are you from here??? Most of the people that feel like me are lifelong giles countians.
No school is 100% safe...it just isnt. But if its my kids future we are talking about, im not willing to gamble and take a chance..hoping and praying...that they beat the odds. In any given week, there are several fights there...alchol..drugs...gangs..thuggery....oh yes, they are at other schools as well, but nowhere near the level of GCHS(which i would MUCH prefer my kid go there than Columbia Central!) And like it or not, GCHS has a terrible reputation througout the county. Do you agree or disagree on that one???? Im curious.
Why on earth would anyone want to drive their child from Minor Hill to Cornersville everyday???? The answer is that they wouldnt..nobody in their right mind would, but they do it...every day, and will until their kids graduate(and the kids are in elementary). I know a pulaski elem PTO mom that carries one older kid to cornersville, and will do the same with her other kid before long. Why would some folks do the same for ardmore??? And pay out of state tuition on top of that??? It sounds crazy, but I will tell you that its b/c the majority of folks in giles county dont feel good about their kids going to GCHS. Its not like the inner city of Chicago, but its nowhere near what it used to be, and that is sad.
Im not labeling all parents of GCHS students as morons, b/c that is ludicrous. Like i said earlier, i have many friends with children that are good people, but their jobs and chosen profession just doesnt allow them the flexibility to send their kids to better schools. Those parents know exactly what im referring to, and they agree. I in no way can blame them for keeping their kids there, as most are just trying to do the best that they can and hoping for the best.
You are happy with GCHS, then i say good for you, but dont fool yourself, you are in a select group of people that are in the minority..a very small minority.
So, 35% of the GCHS parents are morons now and probably uninsureable also huh? 1st generation felons & thieves and all passing it along to the kids.
You state; "but the problem is that there are at least as many(if not more) that are not". Dang. Two days & we've dropped below 50%.
You state: "And like it or not, GCHS has a terrible reputation througout the county. Do you agree or disagree on that one???? Im curious". Oh yea! Now I totally agree with that one!!!!! Lets see. You have the country of North Giles. The city of Pulaski. And the country of South Giles. Supposed to be one dance partner & three show up. Until the end of time each will never fail to bash the other. I'm sure if you care to interview the good folks of North Giles the GCHS percentage just dropped to less than 10%.
Ok. I'm picking too much. We sent one to private school for exactly the same reasons as you state. As we interacted with other kids and parents we found our fears were unfounded. If people want to start a private school then more power to them. With the average income per capita of Giles County it can never be sustained.
What I "do get" is the FACT that shielding your child from the real world is impossible. When in college they bring home JJ with the stretched out ear piercings, eyebrow & tongue matching rings and the tattoos bearing witness to the 2015 scary movie of the year while proudly announcing guess what dad? He's a relative now. You can't shout they were not in that percentage. And then you notice that dumb GCHS kid who has the moron parents down the street is now the song leader at the local church. Notify the elders because he was in the below 50% group.
Since you are in contact with all these teachers who despise GCHS please ask them about having the capability of removing 25 from their presence and the anticipated environment improvement that would become a result thereof. Then deny the 2.5% rule of thumb.
Not one sole on this blog knows more about the schools than I. We need something going for this county to get others in gear to do better with our schools. A one person show can't change this system. And that's how I feel. So if it takes some competition from a private school so be it. My children went to a private school and to public school. Where did they gain the most, private. When they went into public they had to help the teachers and tudor other students. They didn't like the private schools because of the strict rules, but it made a big difference in how they behaved when they got back into public school. One did graduate from a private school. So did five other family members.
oh, 8:16, you are just bashing. What about that 2.5% rule of thumb(insert eyes rolling in reference to our believed lover of GCHS)
Now, 6:41, think what youd like, i know folks in south giles...and north giles....and dead center in pulaski.......the majority in each dont believe that GCHS is a good place to send their kids. Your perecentage 'rule' is ridiculous, and again i ask you......"are you from here??" it seems that you never answered that question.
Nope, cant shield my kids from the world, but i can sure do my best to shield them from people that i dont want them hanging out with(at least while they live under my roof). When they are adults its up to them to make their own decisions.....as they are my child/young person it is MY RESPONSIBILITY to help mold them and develop them so that they will later make those smart decisions. Again, i ask you, "would you rather your child hang out with people that you believe are good influences, or the complete opposite?" Not only that, even if they dont hang out with those folks, do you want your kids to have to deal with their BS on a daily basis??? School is hard enough these days as it is, yep...lets add one more negative into the mix.
I agree that a private school will never be able to thrive(here) due to the low incomes. However, id bet you would be surprised at the amount of folks that would send their kids if they could afford it. I know many that homeschool their kids simply b/c of how bad they perceive the schools to be...again, i guess your answer to that is that they dont understand the 'percentage rule of thumb', huh??
In regards to the teachers, by your post, you are one, so would you care to dismiss my claims that many teachers dont really want their kids at GCHS????
BTW, as i have stated, not all kids parents are morons..some parents do the best that they can, but are single parents, live in bad areas, etc. etc...some kids are just bad people....period....but it does seem to be a generational thing, in that most kids grow up to be what they see at home.....but i do stand my comments that there are many mrons in giles county, anyone that has lived here for a long time can attest to that..LOL..
In the end, its really about your comfort zone. Do you feel comfortable sending your child to GCHS??? For me, and many on this blog, the answer is an emphatic, "no."
Uh, excuse me but the private school in question only expects to cover up to third grade.
GCHS has many problems just as Richland does we keep making most of those problems worse by refusing to actually address the issues. Even with a change of leadership at GCHS there is no real discipline with students and teachers both groups seem happy to just survive another day and go home. Until the trouble makers are rooted out and examples of good behavior are displayed there will be little hope for any major changes at any school.
The private school will possibly offer scholarship money when it is up and running. That is why Giles County and notice I said Giles County and not Pulaski need to chip in and help get this off the ground. The idea is to add a grade each year. It would be nice to start with high school and work down, but most people involved have young children. And make sure you let your school board members know that
Tee is about to come up for a nother year added and that you don't want it or you won't vote for them.
Does anyone realize that private schools can pick and choose their students? There are applications for those schools. If you are a transferring school they want to see your previous grades to see if you are good enough and if you are a trouble maker you won't be accepted. Better test scores less problems--go figure.
"Now, 6:41, think what youd like, i know folks in south giles...and north giles....and dead center in pulaski.......the majority in each dont believe that GCHS is a good place to send their kids'.
Wow. You actually know the personal opinions of 14,593 people. The donkey's & the elephant's are surely to be contacting you soon. Knowing up close & personal beliefs of 14,593 people in one county becomes a valuable asset for politicians running for office.
"Your perecentage 'rule' is ridiculous, and again i ask you......"are you from here??" it seems that you never answered that question".
Now lets see. Bee Line, A & W, Moonglow, Dixie Maid, & I drove through the Hut before it was the Hut. I know the Blue Spot & Taters. Been paddled by Ethel, Red, & Joe. Screamed at by Ron, Joe, & Bobby. Bowled a few at the alley & drove across Buford Station, Old 15, & 166 when there were no lines. Played against the Blue Jays, Hornets, Eagles, Elks, Wildcats, Bears, & good old Jones. Purchased my Sundrops straight from the source at the 31 south curve. So yep, I've been right here a long time.
"Nope, cant shield my kids from the world, but i can sure do my best to shield them from people that i dont want them hanging out with(at least while they live under my roof). “
“Again, i ask you, "would you rather your child hang out with people that you believe are good influences, or the complete opposite?" Not only that, even if they dont hang out with those folks, do you want your kids to have to deal with their BS on a daily basis??? .
"BTW, as i have stated, not all kids parents are morons..some parents do the best that they can, but are single parents, live in bad areas, etc. etc..."
So is it income, race, or religion in which leads you to classify people as “bad influences” or resides in a "bad" area? Dang. Sure hope those GCHS thugs don't start coming to your church or other activities. Hate to see you have to change around so much to become free of the undesirables. Careful now. You are going to expose your “lily white” agenda talking about single moms, bad areas, & such.
"I know many that homeschool their kids simply b/c of how bad they perceive the schools to be...again, i guess your answer to that is that they dont understand the 'percentage rule of thumb', huh??"
PERCEIVE. PERCEIVE. PERCEIVE. Now we talking. Perception. Not statistical facts. Just the perception of your "thousands" of friends.
"In regards to the teachers, by your post, you are one, so would you care to dismiss my claims that many teachers dont really want their kids at GCHS????"
Me; a teacher? You can tell by my spelling & grammer I'm no teacher :) Oh yea I had to wait till 10:30 to access the PC due to all the thugs, fights, swat teams, pole girl wannabees, and other morons to clear the GCHS halls. Again, ask all "your" teachers my question of 25. Inquiring minds still want to know.
“In the end, its really about your comfort zone. Do you feel comfortable sending your child to GCHS??? For me, and many on this blog, the answer is an emphatic, "no"
This I agree with. But as usual I'll follow with a question. Is it "actual first hand knowledge" or "perception" that defines your “comfort zone”?
11:35. What happens in the 4th or is it your opinion that K through 3 has the same problems as GCHS?
You are correct it will take many to solve the concerns. That is my whole argument on this thread. Lets fix it together instead of running from it.
I didnt mention if before, but i am a FORMER teacher, so yeah, i know a lil bit about the syestm...FIRSTHAND..there are some good feeder schools here in the county...and some not-so-good ones.
You really have no clue whatsoever....none....otherwise you would understand why the MAJORITY of the county doesnt want their kids at GCHS. No need in re-hashing it any further, as you keep spouting off, never really making a good argument....but i will say 'thank you' for continueing to prove mine.
oh, and just one more thing..tell dorotho and toto that we all said hello.(in case that goes over your head, i will explain it: cuz you live in a fairytale much like the wizard of oz)
With two recently out and one in I do have a clue 2:09.
Here is my simple "good argument". How do you know what the "majority" wants? Has a vote been taken? Questionnaires sent to all homes? Your "perception" opinions that you freely post for all the world to see have absolutely no basis of fact.
If you were indeed a "FORMER" teacher I'll wager English was not your subject.
If you want a private school atmosphere so be it. Isolated, false sense of security, comparable income levels & detached from the real world situations make you more "comfortable" then more power to you.
I will continue to defend GCHS and any other public school as long as people like you spread false and misleading accusations. Show me the real data on the "majority" you speak of.
Public schools need strong parent support. They need dedicated teachers and staff. If you think you can hide your children in a private school and all your problems will disappear, then dream on. Your children would be better served attending public schools while setting examples for others. Your parental standards would also be a positive influence to other parents. Diversity of backgrounds, race, religion, and social status is healthy. Tunnel vision is not.
Talked with "dorotho and toto". They said to go outside because the sky IS NOT falling :)
Actually good at english, but taught math and science...either way, not so good at typing....no edit button, or i would have changed the typos.
The majority...lets see....well, first im in front of the public ALOT, so i see lots of people...second, i attend lots of church/extracurricular activities in giles county, so i see/hear peple talking there as well. If there werent so many here upset with the school system, why oh why do you see the need for a private school even being discussed???? How do you know that the majority dont see it that way???? Why are so many choosing to send their kids outside of our county to attend school???? You think its all 'perception', when the truth is, that your opinion is no more valid than mine (or the other folks that arent pleased with our schools.)
The fact that you even question whether or not most here dislike GCHS is absolutely baffling...the reasons why (or why not) can surely be debated...but the certainty cannot.....its akin to saying that most folks here think dan speer is a great mayor...LOL
I say that you have no clue b/c you adamantly refuse to accept the fact that MOST of the folks here arent happy with the schools. You continue to prove that very point every time you go out on a tangent with your 'space cadet' post.
What really stands out(most recently) is when you said that you will 'defend GCHS and any other public school'. Do you realize how ignorant and/or foolish that statement is??? Are all publich schools created equal?? Is there not a public school that you wouldnt want your kid to attend??? Or do you just defend them cuz you have too much free time on your hands???
Im spreading false and misleading accusations???? Are you kidding me?? It just isnt so. Your ignorance is based on your 'perception' and couldnt possibly be 'backed up by any facts'....or else, let me know just how you can show me the 'data'..LOL
You did manage to sucker me into replying to you...so i will give you credit for that one.
You are the one who continues to make the accusations. These are YOUR words in which you have ABSOULTELY NO means of backing them up. You are pulling numbers out of a hat and posting them as facts. I suspect you live in a middle income white world, attend a white denominational church void of music, & deem yourself judge and jury of all things nonconforming to your beliefs.
So you work for a local company selling. You go to your church. You go to your activities. Everywhere you go people are talking about how bad GCHS is. This shows me you live in a very small circle.
“How do you know that the majority dont see it that way????”. Back at ya. YOU are the one who keeps stating the MAJORITY. Just show me the results of polling 29,184 people in Giles County.
“Why are so many choosing to send their kids outside of our county to attend school???? You think its all 'perception', when the truth is, that your opinion is no more valid than mine (or the other folks that arent pleased with our schools.)”. Exactly how many Giles County students currently attend out of county schools? Please describe your “so many” in order to abolish my opinion of your small circle of life.
“The fact that you even question whether or not most here dislike GCHS is absolutely baffling...the reasons why (or why not) can surely be debated...but the certainty cannot.....its akin to saying that most folks here think dan speer is a great mayor...LOL” Uhmmm, again show me your “certainty”.
“I say that you have no clue b/c you adamantly refuse to accept the fact that MOST of the folks here arent happy with the schools.” As RR would say. “Now, there you go again.” MOST. MAJORITY.
“Im spreading false and misleading accusations???? Are you kidding me?? It just isnt so. Your ignorance is based on your 'perception' and couldnt possibly be 'backed up by any facts'....or else, let me know just how you can show me the 'data'..LOL”
If you would only just read the last words you typed in the 1st person you would see my point. You are stating your personal opinions based on a combination of your personal beliefs and fears and NOT actual proven data. If you wanted to state; In my opinion, there MAY be a majority of people in Giles County who are unhappy with the option of sending their child to GCHS, THEN you would have expressed your opinion truthfully. When you kick back and slam the MAJORITY concept as an undisputed fact, then you are posting misleading accusations. Get it?
Personally I would hope all parents share the wish that schools in their area could improve. That’s why we try hard to support all the kids. Within the walls of GCHS & Richland lies our future. If you don’t want to support them fine. Just don’t get on a open public blog and condemn them.
First of all, i aint Church of Christ. I like music in our church!
Second, i probably see more folks in a week than you do in a month. You see, i am a physician, so i am privy to all socioeconomic groups, not just the 'lily white' ones.
This 'small circle' that you speak of (when referring to me)includes white, black, asian, and hispanic folks. Their occupations include doctors, lawyers, teachers, STUDENTS, pastors, small businessmen, engineers, factory workers, laborers, and (unfortunately) way too many out of work folks. So yes, the majority of those dont think that GCHS is a good school. Call me 'crazy'(insert eyes rolling) for believing them. I guess you think that they all have some conspiracy theory going against GCHS huh??
Even though Richland has had way more than its share of troubles, most parents(there i go again using that word!) would rather send their kids there than GCHS. Im sure you doubt that validity as well....and of course, you'd be wrong there too. Why do you think they have zoning there??? How many folks move to that area just so there kids can go to school at richland?? Now compare that to the folks that would do the opposite...it aint even close...oops, almost forgot...that is just 'my opinion."
Oh, i thought about you this morning as i happened to see one of those moronic parents i was talking about. A high school girl came in to the office in pain. Her dad was with her. After seeing her, he said, "you are gonna give us a note for today right?" I said, "yes." He said, "Cuz she goes back in front of the judge next month, and they will do anything they can to take her away from me. I quit letting her smoke dope and stuff in the house any more." As they were leaving, i saw her light up a cigarette, cursing at her dad b/c he didnt have a light. She was also pregnant. Oh, and i will give you one guess as to where she attends high school. She has never had a chance, and unfortunately, will prolly wind up just like her parents. Its not her fault really, but that still doesnt mean that i would want my kid hanging out with her or her friends, in the same places, somkin' dope or whatever else they happen to be doing.
There are somewhere around 20-22K people countywide (not close to your 14K or so that you commented on. I dont have a Zogby or Rassmussen poll to go by, just the words of many concerned citizens of the county. People that i respect and know that they want what is best for their kids. They want (and deserve) to send their kids to a school that is safe and conducive to learning. They want their kids around other kids that have good, solid, hard-working parents that take an interest not only in their kids education, but their social life as well. They are willing to do everything they can for their children, but circumstances sometimes dictate that they have to make the best out of a bad situation...and that is what most (oops....of the 'small circle people that i know') do in regards to the school situation. If you honestly wouldnt say the same about your own kids(where you want them to attend school is irrelevant...but the premise of wanting the best for your children remains) then you are simply a bad parent, imo.
"First of all, i aint Church of Christ. I like music in our church!"
I sure do hope your "kid" attends Zion. If you are at CA you can hang up the thought of your "kid" EVER having the opportunity to become class president, leader, or become recognized as a outstanding student of the church. Of course if your "kid" happens to be a female, then she will always just follow the young men, keep her mouth shut, and never play a leadership role in school functions.
"Second, i probably see more folks in a week than you do in a month. You see, i am a physician, so i am privy to all socioeconomic groups, not just the 'lily white' ones."
A doctor? lol. I was pretty sure you were a Walmart greeter. If you are a doctor then why in the world would you give specific patient information out over the net? Them little old privacy laws do not apply to you, huh? I'll give you this much credit though. At least because of this one girl you didn't state "most of the girls @ GCHS" when referring to her.
That's twice you have posted information centered around the health departments operations. I'm pretty sure you are someone who considers you a friend may be walking on slippery ice releasing that type of information. It stands to reason you are using the department as your bench mark to demean GCHS. My argument stands that you are judging the many by the actions of a few.
29,184 people in Giles County as per U.S. Census Bureau 2008. The vast majority of students at GCHS are great kids. Richland zone lines. Do you really want to go there? All the former is YOUR opinion in which you have absolutely NO REAL FACTS to back them up.
A private school would require at least 12 students per class to survive. K through 3rd = 48. Plus you need 12 in waiting. At least $5,000.00 per. Attrition. Personal conflicts. Building expenses, insurance, books, communication and visual equipment, extracurricular activity cost. If it happens at all it will not be sustainable in Giles County. Put your efforts towards improving what we have. Be a role model.
SHHHHH....dont tell anyone im not church of christ, otherwise not only will my kid get neglected, but many of the other coc kids will spend half the day telling my kids that they are going to hell.LOL
ummm...obviously you aint that smart (in regards to health occupations rules/regulations), so let me spell it out for you... HIPPA....there it is, look it up.....ah, you prolly wont, so i will tell you. It basically says that you cant give out an individuals private info to a another party blah blah blah....i neither gave a specific name nor a condition that the patient has, so im pretty much in the clear. Thanks for your concern, and thats ok that you dont completely understand the laws, as it has become quite obvious that comprehension isnt your strong suit.
In regards to Richland.... What facts??? They have had some major problems there in the past few yrs, yet some still feel the need to send their kids there (as opposed to GCHS) It is a fact that some families prefer to send their kids to Richland. I do know several families (prolly more than ardmore/cornersville)that moved there to get away from having their child go to GCHS. I also know of some that are in the process of TRYING to move there for the same reasons...some are even trying to use the addresses of family members in order to enroll their kids there..LOL.....in regards to all school-age kids, not a majority by any means, but quite a few. In contrast, i know of one family that sent their kid to GCHS instead of Richland, and the ONLY reason was to play football. Your opnion or my opinion (in that regard) is irrelevant, b/c the fact is, GCHS has a bad reputation. It just does. You can blame me, the media, teachers, students, even good ole Tee.....but that is the perception of the school. Yeah, i know....its just a perception created by me and a few others.......
i also asked 1 teacher at GCHS about the question you posed. That specific teacher said that there were more 'problem kids' than that (the 25 you asked me to mention) in her first 3 periods alone, not to mention the other teachers(of course i didnt poll them, so i dont know how they would answer).
Why would a teacher in giles county not want their kid to go to GCHS?? That is a very interesting question. Even if you know nothing about the school, if you overheard that over dinner, or at a ballgame, or a fish fry, wouldnt that make you stop....even for just a moment...... and second guess the quality of that school? Teachers, above all others, should know whether a school is doing a great job...or not so great. Where there is smoke, there is usually some semblance of fire. Are all of the stories i have heard true???? I dunno if everyone of them are true, but what i do know is that of the many teachers that i personally know to be repectful and trustworthy...i just see no valid reason for them to lie..none whatsoever..especially when some of them even work there.
I have already stated that i dont think that a private school can sustain itself in giles county. Highland tried it...and with noble efforts.....but the financial costs coupled with the low family incomes in giles county were just too much. I belive that this new school will suffer the same fate.
I would love to be able to send my kids to public school (as opposed to spending in excess of 100,000 for 12yrs of schooling. Its not about the education. Its no better than the public schools, for the most part. However, my job first and foremost, as a parent, is to take care of my kids the best way that i know possible. I just wouldnt trust GCHS, and that is my opinion.
For the record, when i was at GCHS, in the good ole days of Joe Hardin...discipline ruled. It didnt matter what race, sex, or religous preference.....you walked the line. Many didnt like him, but he was good at his job. In my opinion until they get a stronger authority figure that the students BOTH fear and respect, nothing will change.
Oh I comprehend HIPPA ok. I am required to abide by it every day. Ok lets see.
"A high school girl came in to the office in pain. Her dad was with her. After seeing her, he said, "you are gonna give us a note for today right?" I said, "yes." He said, "Cuz she goes back in front of the judge next month, and they will do anything they can to take her away from me. I quit letting her smoke dope and stuff in the house any more." As they were leaving, i saw her light up a cigarette, cursing at her dad b/c he didnt have a light. She was also pregnant. Oh, and i will give you one guess as to where she attends high school."
High school, going before the judge next month, excuse note, likes 420 & smokes, and pregnant. In little old Giles County you did identify her, lol.
Now you have identified 1 teacher that claims to have 26+ students out of about 65 that are thugs, drug induced, pregnant, or morons in their 1st three classes. Almost 50% of the kids. If this teacher actually said that then this teacher is wrong. If this teacher feels that way then the teacher, the students, and the staff at GCHS are suffering because of THIS teacher. This type of teacher is part of the problem and not part of the solution.
I admit I'm getting a little lost. You went from a math & science teacher to a doctor. You had "a majority" of people and now you lean towards health department statistics, your church, and one teacher.
Initially I posted some of my thoughts concerning a private school as per the topic. You immediately jump on GCHS with criticism that you cannot back up. You continue to embellish hearsay as the concrete truth. Be brave. Go outside tomorrow. The ski is not falling and GCHS staff & students as a whole are trying to make the most of the hand they are dealt.
"if" this teacher said this??? So now i no longer just give out misinformation, im a liar....umm excuse me...thats your 'opinion'..please back it up with facts, maam...LOL And its the teacher that is the problem??? LOL.....oh, definitely keep 'em coming....just when i thought you couldnt get any funnier....thats good stuff right there....
i used to be a teacher...i went back to school to continue my education...yep,i can see how that is really hard to follow.
Health Dept stats???? You are really reaching there. I dont know what you are talkinga bout, but I said that i had a friend that worked there, and told me....ahh nevermind, if you didnt understand it the first time, i doubt you would if i explained it again. But i will say that it was only one statement in one post....umm, yeah, im really using alot of 'health dept' stats there.
And one teacher????...seriously, are you that stupid or what??? i have talked with MANY teachers. I have said that over and over. MANY have stated their disdain for GCHS. In my last response i stated that i recently spoke with ONE teacher concerning your question. Sorry,i just happened to see that person out and about....albeit in my 'little circle'.
And my church??? Again, you have no clue. Maybe i was wrong....apparently i was..no, i for sure was wrong....you definitely do belong in the 'moron'group.
"Initially"..what BS! You jumped on my post regarding why i think that parents would want to choose a private school over a public school(specifically GCHS). You are so full of crap that its gotten way past ridiculous.
I swear you really do need some type of intevention...and maybe a good shrink.
Doctor. Do you diagnosis your patients based on proven results tested over time or do you just rely on 2nd hand opinions?
Doc. I called you out because you bashed GCHS with no ammo. You got one teacher, one church, and distorted opinions gained by health department clientele. What you don't have is tests, x-rays, or work ups to prove your 'majority", "most", "many", "overall", "out of control", "none of them want" claims.
I hate to break it to ya but here it goes. The sky is falling. Bad, bad people are everywhere. You will get mugged if you get within 2 miles of GCHS. Saggy britches will cause blindness. Graduation will be canceled this year at GCHS because no students can read or write. Thousands are crossing the county boarder as we speak to avoid mingling with GCHS parents or students. The GCHS thugs have captured city hall. All the pregnant girls are having twins so now the problems doubled in size. Stay in your house. Lock the doors. Flee the county if possible. Even fleeing state might be safer.
I have to run now. We are going to our safe room in the basement. A car just passed out house with a Bobcat tag on the front. Without binoculars we can't tell if its morons or not. Everyone run. Hide. Take cover now.
Again with the one teacher....what part of MANY DONT you understand?????...none of your arguments hold any water at all...none...nada..zilch...but im betting you already know that..in fact, ive figured that much for quite a while now....i would hope that you have just been having some fun trying to instigate...thats ok, its been kinda fun for me too...but like GCHS, its kinda old and dated, so i must give it a fond farewell.
Take care. Let me know which kind of meds they put you on. I would be more than happy to recommend a few for you. I would also hope that the Parthenon is not in your future...but hey, whatever it takes to heal you...its worth it in the long run.
BTW, I have lots of friends with kids (and some family members) that attend GCHS, so i do have a vested interest in the hope that they can turn things around. But it will be a long hard road for that to actually happen.
Im done here.
Hey Doc. The burden of proof belongs to you. How "many" is "many"? Come on doc. Tell us how long we got left.
Doc. Its a good thing your not around our little house come corn shucking time. You would find one (1) worm in an ear and declare all of them bad. Heaven forbid if you stumbled across two of them. I'm sure you would issue a "bad thug corn warning"! :)
Plans moving right along for Private School.. Should be ready in fall.
yep, i believe that they already have a website.
Good luck to them. Anyone know the name of the website? I'd like to read about this school. Good for them!
it is called Giles Prepatory Academy, and there is a link on facebook...if you are interested.
The problem at GCHS = The paddle hasn't met enough bottoms.
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