How Has The Increased Cost Of Utilities Impacted You?
How has the increases in electricity, water and sewage impacted you?
How do you feel about the Electric Company selling, Cable TV, Internet and Electricity?
If you knew that the electric rates were being used to subsidize the internet and cable operations would you feel different about Pulaski Electric providing those services?
posted by Allen Barrett | 11:01 AM
57 Comments:
I don't think it should be legal for them to increase customers electric rates in order to subsidize their internet and tv operations.This is totally unfair to people who can't get these services.
I for one am glad they offer these services as it gives me more options for these services. I do wish my parents could get their service but it is only a matter of time. Based on what I see on the Nashville and Huntsville news TVA is responsible for the rate increases, not PES.
When may I ask, are they going to bring these services to the rural areas? I have heard there are no plans to bring cable or internet to my neck of the woods. I would love to have those services, but can't because of where i live. I should not however, have to subsidize those who get them.
In order to keep their prices low enough to undercut the cable co and other providers it has to be subsidized by higher utility rates for all customers and if you don't like it you can cancel your electric service with them.
7:25 How sweet, most people can't do with out the electric service.
Exactly 7:45 they have us right where they want us. There was some changes after Barrett and some others raised hell with them and the big guy resigned but the cost is still to high and it ain't all TVA, part of it is these damn smart meters.
I under the big guy is no longer with the job he left for. Wonder why.
I hear PES is paying Energize.net a large sum of money to monitor these smart meters to increase there income so it doesn't look like they are loosing so much money.The money to pay for this service has to come from higher utility bills.Does anyone know if this is true?
When you provide a service that everyone needs and you have a monopoly you can pretty much charge what you want and do what you want.Thats the way i see it.we are at their mercy.
So you are suggesting, that if I don't like the service that is being provided, that I just tell them to turn off my power so I don't have to subsidize services that others get. How idiotic is that? If I don't get the services, I shouldn't have to pay for them. I wasn't being rude, but you are. I pay for what I get, but I should not have to pay for what you get.
Did this smart meters, do away with anyone's job?
That's just a question so don't any body get mad. Just wondering.
4:52 yes. those are logged automatic at the office and meter readers are no more.
Thats strange as a meter reader comes every month to my house.
10:09
I understood not all homes in Giles have the smart meter yet. Is it possible your home doesn't have it yet? Do they change the meter for them or what? I live out side of Giles now. Still think of it as my county and hope to be back in a year or two.
It's true not all homes and businesses have the so called "smart meters" on them. As they are installed by PES and go on line all the information about your use of electricity will be automatically sent to PES without a meter reader. Now according to research posted all over the internet not only are these meters unsafe, they are an invasion of your privacy and they give PES and TVA the power to alter your usage by charging higher rates at different times of the day. So what you are charged for cooking dinner at 5PM can be different from if you cooked it at 3AM.
For anyone who attended the PES meetings a couple of years back, they would acknowledge Mr. Barrett is absolutely correct as to what we were told. I will add there were several families in those meetings who spoke about having had exposure to 'smart meters' elsewhere and the program was disastrous. Some even told about fires that had happened in homes due to the fault of the meters. We also need to remember for the consumer to get any benefits from the programmed reduced power times, we would each have to do away with our current appliances and buy the latest appliances compatible with the meters. Upon objections from the masses, PES decided at that time to do nothing about the meter program in Giles county. Would seem enough time has passed for things to quieten down so PES starts again. Suppose this was decided in the PES meetings?
If you don't like the way PES does business you can always tell them that you don' need their service.They are just trying to provide a good service and a fair wage for their employees.whats wrong with that?
6:56 what a joke. They have a monopoly and only a few could live without their services today. Their workers are the highest paid in the county for the work they do and higher than some other counties for the same job. Things are better than a couple of years ago but still need to get better specially with the dumb meters that give them even more control over our lives.
WAB
"Now according to research posted all over the internet not only are these meters unsafe, they are an invasion of your privacy and they give PES and TVA the power to alter your usage by charging higher rates at different times of the day." FIrst, I have looked at some research on the internet also,I havent found anything that conclusively says these meters are unsafe, if you have found such a link please post it. Second,these meters dont give anyone the power to do anything. While I am not sure I like the smart meter thing just yet, I am not quite convinced just yet that they are the evil puppet of big brother.As for charging different rates for different times of the day, we already do that when we go to the movies.Saturday matinee prices are different than Saturday night prices, same thing with the lunch menu at the local restaurant, or even gas prices to some extent depending on what time of year it is, heating fuel hotel rooms, lots of things are rated differently based on time of use.
That's quite a stretch 7:59. None of those things you mentioned have a government sanctioned monopoly and people can choose to use or not use them. Electricity on the other hand has become a necessity.
I have a Chevy car that I have had no problem with but the manufacturer has just issued a recall because of some problem. Should I ignore the recall because I have no problems yet? When I lived in another state we had smart meters put on our appliances as part of a TVA project within two weeks our house was burned to the ground because the smart meter on the Water heater malfunctioned while we were at work. The fire inspector declared without question that the smart meter was at fault. It took over three years before TVA
was forced to reimburse our insurance company for the house.
How many fires must take place before they are a hazard.
google "electric smart meters and fires" and you will find a number of sites about this problem among others. Maybe Mr. Barrett will post a specific site for you but these are very enlightening.
Read this site then spew all you want.
http://sites.google.com/site/nocelltowerinourneighborhood/home/wireless-smart-meter-concerns/consumers-report-public-safety-hazards-and-interference-problems
I bet you want even look at it.
These sites all talk about wireless smart meters. The meters deployed by PES arent wireless are they? As I said earlier I am not sure I am for or against these things yet. I want to know more about them. On the surface not having to run trucks to read the meters seems like a good idea. I just want more info, I wasn't spewing unless you think anything posted on here is spewing. The point I was trying to make earlier and you seem to miss is we pay different rates for all sorts of things in life. Sometimes I agree with Barrett, sometimes I dont. I am just trying to have a discussion that is all. I try to keep an open mind about things until all the facts are in.
1:24
I thought your post was to anyone, not a certain person. Guess 1:40 thought it was him/her.
Anyway thanks for posting the site. I had been trying to find something about smart meters to no avail.
1:40 said the article was about wireless meters and what is in Giles county isn't.
Maybe he problem with wireless has made them change to meters with wire.
One way or the other want it cause people to loose their jobs.
which I thought computers would take less people, but I believe it takes more, someone has to fix the problems with them.
I wrote 1:40 and 7:59 and I am not sure if the smart meters in Giles county are wireless or not. There seems to be 2 types. All the articles I saw that had negative things to say about them all seemed to be talking about the wireless model, I havent seen much about the wired version. I agree with your thoughts about computers. I have been thinking if this does come through and there is no longer a need for meter readers could those people move to the tree trimming crew or maybe transfer to another city department. I hate the thought of someone being put out of work because of automation.
Maybe the new solar panel farm that will produce 1.4 megawatts of power will offer an alternative to pes and their high rates.Does anyone know when this system will go online and who will they sell their electricity to?
The electricity, if it ever happens will be sold to PES and they will continue to charge just as they do now. When the government stops paying the bills the thing will close up like most of the other expensive paybacks to democrat donors.
Is there any way to get free service or assistance for someone who can't afford to pay their bill?
There is no free power service in Giles county. For those who cant pay their bill they have to try to get help through local churches, but even the churches have limited funds for assistance so its not always possible to help. Then the power gets cut off. There are many families living in Giles county without power. They cook on outside grills.
I have heard that the people who live in tanglewood apts get assistance with their electric and water bills.anyone know where this comes from?
10:48
Isn't that gossip?
8:45 Didnt sound like gossip to me, only concern for fellow citizens in need.
11:32
No, you are in fact gossiping about the people who live in Tanglewood...according to this blog's definition for gossip.
10:48
I did not post earlier, only at 11:32 PM. Don't assume and cast stones without being sure who posted.
Some people do get help paying their electric bill. At least some did last year.
Where do they get help from.I don't like to work either and would like to learn to live off the taxpayers also,is there somewhere i can get training on how to become a useless eater?
Google Indian Assertion. It should make you furious how our government meets people at the airports with checks in hand while our own citizens can't get any help in many cases.
The people from india do not come here to live off thr dole.They work hard and provide for themselves.You do not see them in the paper for drugs,robbery,or other crimes. We need more americans to act like them.They are productive citizens,not useless eaters.
Google Indian Assertion. Sure they work hard, but the point you miss is that our government hands them money they won't give its own citizens. And, believe it not not these people despise America. And I didn't say all of them do.
I googled it and see nothing about our goverment helping them get established here.It appeares they become productive citizens by hard work and helping each other simular to how the jewish people did it.Please post link to your google refernce.
Ask someone who lives in New York City how it is. These people live high on the hog and there is no middle class there. Hard to find any work there if you dont want to work for someone with the last name Mohammed. Check it out.
I'm not a racist...just concerned about my country.
This is because the Indians are hard working and capitalizing on our free enterprise system while americans are sitting on their butts with their hands out.sad but true.
11:55
I respectfully say that I'm not sure you are seeing the big picture about this. These Hindus and Muslims despise us, and they do have an agenda. I din't say all of them feel that way.
I've been told anyone from India could borrow money to open a store and not have to pay as much tax as an American would have to. Can anyone tell me if that is correct.
7:24
I believe it's the Indians and not the Mexicans who are the real problem. But most people are naive and apathetic about this.
And the Caribbeans are coming over in droves, and the government is handing out checks when they arrive. I hear (gossip) that they call Brooklyn the largest of the Caribbean Islands.
Anyone have any idea why our government would let this happen.
Having a foreigner that hates the country as president is a starting place to look at why they allow this to happen.
3:45
Good question.
Is it possible there is an unseen force out there trying to destroy america and our way of life.
Our president
We have to pay for all the advertising PES does and maybe prices will go down now that Donna Baker is gone from Chamber. PES had to cover her fanny a couple of times on paying out Chamber Bucks and phone bill, and credit card.
Why would PES be obligated to bail out the chamber?They are in the business of selling electricity and internet services.They should not be obligated to help the chamber or any other business in town.Please explain.
Same reason they are obligated to pay for the spec buildings Speer had built for phantom businesses.
How can they justify charging customers higher rates to get money for projects that have nothing to do with the electric service?Is this legal.
In Giles County legal is decided by those in power.
4:09
And jealousy, hatred and resentment are leveled at those who were duly elected by the people and who have that power.
Describing behaviors.
Since PES is a non profit company i would think that it's customers would be intitled to a complete refund for any money spent that dosen't pertain to running it.I think an audit should be required and possibly a class action lawsuit to recover any misused funds.anyone know how to get an audit started?
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