Poster From Songwriters Dream Program At Martin Methodist College
posted by Allen Barrett | 11:02 AM
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589 Comments:
This is outrageous! If Dan Speer wanted to donate to this event out of his own pocket that's great, but with the charge reflected on another thread showing Economic Development expenses, it appears to be one and the same donation which would amount to fraud of tax payer money. Anyone know how to go about making sure this was from ED or from Dan Speer personally?
Unfortunately this is only a minor drop in the bucket when you compare it to all the many, many, other ways he uses tax payers money. The people of Pulaski would be furious to find out some of the things he has used government funds for and please don't suggest an audit be done. That is a joke. When you have spent as much money as Dan Speer has and done so for as long as he has and gotten away with it with no more than having to answer one or two questions a year, you get that good by knowing exactly how to "doctor the books" so that nothing raises any suspicion and you keep someone at the top level of government (city administrator) very well compensated for helping you cover all your tracks and acting as a deversion in case someone starts to catch on to what has been going on, someone like Barrett.So keep up the good work Allen, you may not have realized it when you posted this tread, but you are really on to something that is bigger than you ever thought.
Yeah an when you've got a selected few commissioners enter-twined with each others boards an committees, with no interest in asking questions it's real easy to line up your votes. Why do you think that the meetings are so early the working public can't attend or the meeting sites change so much? Coincidence-I think not.
We need a PES type hearing about the county finances and the EDC.
Compared to “average responses” to blog subjects, the public responses to the last few weeks’ blogs has been rather subdued. There are few if any responses that criticize Mr. Barrett or the subjects he has presented. There are even fewer responses that defend the county officials mentioned in the blogs.
There are fewer responses period !scsa
It seems this is a case of quality vs quanity. Fewer posts, perhaps, but more relevent to the topic. Before it was mostly back-and-forth insults and attacks. I like it much better this way.
Had E. Nuff
I think this is just more proof that nobody really cares about what is being said on this blog. The CG was right all along.
12:09 PM
CG, No, you are not right.
There may be fewer posts because your ridiculous back and forth banter about lies is considerably less, but even though there are fewer posts they are to topic and for the most part express true opinions and feelings. I would might rather see this blog operating as most do around the county, less posts but on topic.
Additionally, according to personal feedback, there are many many readers of this blog even though they might be too timid to post, and that's fine, too.
Why was the governor in town a couple of weeks ago? Are we getting a new factory?
12:20 I agree with you one hundred percent.
People don't post when there is nothing new. Maybe that is why we haven't heard anything new about the finical mess Giles County is in.
12:51
Ha Ha Ha Ha.
Maybe he was checking out this finance mess Giles County is in.
He knows about it.
Governor Haslam Says Pulaski Expansion Will Top $57.7 Million
Posted on June 11, 2012
Expansion Will Create 800 New Jobs in Giles County
Are we to thank Dan Speer for this?
CG what do you think about Governor Haslam now?
I think Barrett and the rest of you folks with the bad attitudes should make some apologies. Do you like your crow grilled or fried?
Now you know the reason people don't pay any attention to the lies and crap posted on this blog. I don't think the timing of this announcement could have been any better. Just when the last several topics work to bury Speer, he pulls through and helps to create 800 jobs. This is so funny.
It doesn't really matter who gets the credit, or who gets ridiculed on the new jobs announcement today. The one person who deserves the most credit for this is Kim Ketchum! With her, it fell in the laps of the Economic Development Coodinator and group, Without her, it would be in either Mexico or Alabama. It doesn't really matter now, because the jobs are coming to Pulaski. Woo hoo!
This is good news! Only thing that always seems to happen is that around election time or when he's under scrutiny---magically Jobs appear! If he truly can do all that and is trying to do that--why must he always wait till elections or scrutiny? Think of what could be done all the time if inclined?
There should still be an accounting of these irregularities that surround the workings of the office and how it relates to all involved--will everyone forget the MESS now?
Hey Ray, come out of your corner and thank a Republican for these 800 jobs.
Is Magnetti an Employee Benefits Solution account? I am happy to see the jobs but my opinion of Dan does not change because of what I have heard coming out of his mouth and I doubt he had any involvement in the companies decision to expand the plant. But I am glad they did not block further employment in the area. I think Magnetti needs to be thanked.
Was dinning at the country club the reason for the expansion of these jobs, which will not be this year.
I haven't been in a corner, dumbass, I have already explained my reasons for taking a break. I am grateful for the jobs, no matter who is responsible. You know, even a blind hog -- such as yourself -- finds an acorn every now and then. If you think that Dan Speer's party affiliation is going to make anyone cross lines, you really are a dumbass.
Ray Lanier
I thought Speer was a Democrat. But if thanks are going to a Republican for bringing jobs to Giles County then thanks should go to Haslam as it seems he did a lot of work in getting Magneti's expansion here. Thank God the expansion was high profile enough that the state was involved so it went through on the local level.
Thank a Republican? Are you kidding?
Ask teachers and their families what they think of Bill Haslam and the Republican party. Some of the local people who claim to be affiliated with that party is enough alone to make you sick.
Sort of like some of the local people who are associated with the socialist, oops I mean democratic party is enough to make you sick. On the local level ask the teachers and families what they think of our local government and Director of schools. By the way did the missing money ever show up?
I was talking about Haslam Ray. I thought you were smart enough to understand that. I gave you a little too much credit.
Haslam is a real leader that is willing to listen to a few lazy teachers cry so that our children can get a good education. Hard working teachers have nothing to worry about. Are you one of the lazy ones 7:56?
The new company, "Magnetti" that is coming to Giles County is able to do so only because they conferred with the management of Toyota, who was turned down by EDC and city administrators of Pulaski several years ago and had to build their factory on Pulaski Pike inside Huntsville city limits. When Toyota spoke with Magnetti, they were told to avoid Pulaski/Giles County EDC at all costs and strickly go through the neccessary channels at the state level using the governors office so that no one from Pulaski could have a chance to derail the project before it got started. Dan Speer's office knew about the new company coming to Pulaski the same time everyone else did, when it was broadcasted on the news.
You do give me too much credit, 8:40, if you think I read your posts that closely. I believe I've said before, the party doesn't matter nearly as much as the beliefs that are held. Continue baiting, O Great and Mighty Ass of the Dumb. You are and will continue to remain beneath me. Now you have as nice of a day as someone with your issues can, ya hear?
Ray Lanier
Hey gerbils !! Instead of running around in your cages and wheels all day, take time to read the report re Marelli on WKSR .
It clearly and distinctly says that the STATE takes all the credit for these 800 (? really ) jobs.
Desperate Dan had his usual influence -between zero and none -in making it happen . That man is USELESS and a complete parasite to the Giles County Economy .
But d'you want to guess where he'll be when they cut the ribbon and sip the Italian Spumante? (Marelli is Italian )
Wonder how many incoming Italians drive Ferraris .....
Espe Dingkraut
All city employees had to attend a insurance meeting the other day it was to inform them about how there new insurance would pay or not pay for medical needs they had. Brenda Speer was suppose to conduct the meeting but something came up and she was not able to do so instead, Dan Speer's sister conducted the meeting. Just a fact that I thought some people might be interested in knowing about.
Was it Dan's sister or Brenda's sister conducting the meeting?
2:30, Dan does not have a sister. You are too quick to blame someone!
well if Dan doesn't have a sister, he has a lady who is introducing herself as such, maybe its his sister-in-law who really cares the main focus should be on the fact that his wife is owner of the insurance company that is providing insurance to all city employees. That is a fact!
Boy, someone out there is quick to defend Dan, even to the point to try to divert the conversation away from discussing damaging facts.
Even if Dan Speer had helped get Marelli that don't excuse the other expansions that he didn't go for or his giving money to MMC that wasn't his money as his. It don't make the tax payers having to pay for his country club expense alright.
4:37 That is probably cg defending Danny boy. He likes to blame everything on WAB. He thinks the rest of us are to dumb to think for our self.
Did you know that Had E. Nuff,
Espe Dingkraut, and Ray "dumbass" Lanier are all the same. Watch him lie about it.
Rex
Hey Rex!!
You Am dead WRONG on yo' assertions at 6-16.
You need bigger 'ertions' to cover yo' ass. Them cheeks orter be red from sun exposure
Passing Ferraris but who aint any o'dem udder two.
Espe Dingkraut
Well I guess smart is one thing you are not, Rexy boy. Everybody on here knows I always sign my posts, for good or ill. I certainly am not ashamed to claim my contributions. Is Rex the only thing your parents could think of? They didn't feel like you deserved a last name, or do you just not know who your daddy is? Hell, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't claim you if I was him either.
Ray Lanier
I am with you Rex. I don't think there are two different people on here that post such stupid stuff as Ray and Had E. Nuff. Plus, they both keep posting over and over until they get a response. Ray is an idiot. That has been easy for everyone to see.
I thought Ray and Had E. Nuff silly and childish, but not any more than cg has been. At least cg didn't use some of the bad words they did.
I think it would be even better if they would actually use local songwriters and musicians for this event. Too bad the people in this town are too stuck up to back local people. We always have to get people from out of town to support. What a joke.
By why is the Economic Development supporting ANY songwriters with tax payer money? I cant see how that brings jobs into Giles county.
Why would anyone want to move to Giles County with Magneti Marelli knowing the mess created by the Finance Department? Taxes will have to be higher. If they prove and fire the ones responsible for this mess I could see higher taxes, but if nothing is done they will just spend more and cry for more.
As may you, 3:12, but we'll never know cause your anonymous. I'm quite sure you do not hold such a high position in the county that you cannot post your name, so why don't you? Seriously, what's the point in having an opinion if you are too afraid to own it? I could understand if you were giving out government secrets or blowing...whistles ( 2 for flinching ), but all you're doing is running your dumbass mouth. Sure, some of your more intelligent friends might give you a hard time about your posts for awhile, but they'd forget soon enough. Come on, join the party and stand up for something you believe in for once in your miserable, worthless life. You might even like it, if you are capable of that emotion. Otherwise, you amount to about as much as a fart in a thunderstorm, which is what I have suspected all along. Sucks to be you, or at least I imagine that's what your wife always says.
Ray Lanier
You better go cool off in the pool Ray. You are such a fool that it isn't worth anyones time to get upset about the crap that comes out of your mouth. I am sure this blog isn't the first place you have heard someone call you a moron.
5:59 Why did you post back to Ray if it isn't worth getting upset about what he says?
I'm not upset. I just like making fun of Ray and laughing at him.
Dear 6-12-12 @ 8:40. My children have been out of school for sometime so I am not as knowledgeable as I should be regarding the teachers' work ethic.I do know that it has been a trying year but not having children in the system, I am not in a position to judge the education that students are receiving. Since you are in the schools every day and are aware of what's going on first hand, please give me some concrete examples what what the "lazy" vs the "hard working" teachers are doing or not doing. From what I understand, and it's not first hand as your information is, the Governor's evaluation plan for teacher's is time consuming and doesn't actually demonstrate a teacher's competance. I appreciate your help. Glad to know that there are people out there who know first hand what's going on and not just teacher bashing.
Dear 7:48,
Is it possible that you teach sarcasm in school? If so, you are doing a poor job. It doesn't take anyone very smart to know the difference between a lazy teacher that has no business being in the classroom and one that is willing to go the extra mile because their top priority is the students success. You see, some teachers went to school just to take advantage of the benefits and some wanted to make a difference in childrens lives. This new program is going to ensure that those that make a positive impact on our children and create an environment for which they want and are able to learn are rewarded.
I hope you aren't so silly to think that somehow teachers are immune to being bashed? Give it a few years and all of those riding the backs of the unions will be looking for new jobs and the education system will make a huge leap forward.
I sincerely hope this answered you question!
8:13
I'm with 7:48 now in that I would like you to provide examples of how "This new program is going to ensure that those that make a positive impact on our children and create an environment for which they want and are able to learn are rewarded."
Please provide specifics pertaining to the plan so we may evaluate if you are a person that is providing us with facts or are only repeating a statement some one has said to you.
No you did not answer my questions and I am deeply offended. So obviously you are just another teacher basher, who is IGNORANT of a teacher's job. Please explain how 6 hours of paperwork for a 30 minute dog and pony show helps students. Please tell me how a standardized test can provide any type of valid indicator of knowledge a student has gained. Teachers are required to do rigorous and frequent professional development, often on their own time. Tell me how many parents do you know who take classes to become better at parenting? Explain to me, if you can how a teacher's performance can be fairly judged on one week out a student's entire school year. Suppose the child simply didn't want to take THE test? Suppose the student suffers from test anxiety? Suppose the student enjoys making patterns with the dots and his # 2 pencil? Suppose the child is mad at the teacher, his mom or dad, the principal, his best friend and can't perform at his best level? Suppose the student was up all night babysitting baby brother or sister while his caretaker was out drunk? Suppose he saw mom get beat up the night before the test or taken to jail? What if his grandparent, parent, friend puppy or anyone he loves was killed the night before or became ill? Suppose the student himself is ill or simply scared to death of THE test? Any one of the above scenarios is the "lazy teacher's" fault? I guess, since you know first hand, you know that the above situations are not the exception. But hey, what do I know? I bet your children are the type who are perfect or never need to be reprimanded in school and if the should forget their homework, of talk back to someone who is an authority figure, it's all because of the "lazy teacher" who is picking on your child. Teacher bashing is wrong. The bashing of any profession is wrong unless one is a member of that profession. Walk a mile in the other person's shoes before you act like you know it all. (I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain how very ignorant you are of the teacher's benefits) You obviously are one who is not going to let a little thing like the truth get in the way of your belief system. And if teachers have it so good with unusually great benefits, why aren't you one?
I've read the above post over and over and all I've really got out of it is someone's drawers are in a wad.
To me 7:48 just asked for things to be explained. I didn't see that as bashing teachers. For people not in the school system that don't understand what all goes on.
My question is how can you tell the difference in a hard working teacher and a lazy one? I've heard the governor wanted the principal to evaluate the teachers this year.
Is that what this is all about?
I don't know anything about how they go about that but if it's the principal has to set in the class room a few hours to see how the teacher does, that's crazy. First it will probably make teacher and students nervous and neither one do well. I guess I would go for spying as I'm sure someone will call it. Don't they have a PA system where the principal could turn on occasionally and listen to what goes on? This way teacher and students will be acting naturally.
If a teacher had students that made bad grades, you would have to check if it's students iq or did the teacher not explain it good. There is some real smart people out there but just can't explain how something works.
Aww, that cuts me deep,5:59/7:17. And just when we were becoming so close, too. Oh well, I guess you'd rather hang out with your own kind. You know, it the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. Keep not being upset and having fun, that's what it's all about. Oh yeah, that pool suggestion is pretty good. Since Obama bought me one I've become an excellent swimmer. Goodnight sweetheart.
Ray Lanier
Of course there are lazy and highly motivated teachers, one problem is that many of the highly motivated don't stay that way for long. The frustration of being over supervised and under supported while watching some near worthless teacher reap the same benefits is very provoking.
The lazy teacher is the one who shows a movie twice a week that has no educational benefit, the lazy teacher is the one who allows good students to be bullied by those who have no interest in learning. The lazy teacher dresses like a hooker or someone who just finished their yard work. The lazy teacher has more tattoos and piercings than their combined class of students. The lazy teacher is putting in their time without any real concern for the student learning or not.
The lazy teacher is more involved with other teachers than their students, a day of gossip, flirting and inattention pays the very same as being totally involved with all their students and actually taking the extra time to be sure they are getting it and to actually know who their students are. A good teacher will know their students where they live and about their background.
Yes, there are certainly some outstanding teachers in Giles county and you can easily tell who they are, they're the ones who are the most frustrated.
I believe Ray has just about Had E. Nuff. What a moron! You go Ray. We are all pullin for you act like an adult.
3:19 Thanks! I'm shocked to think Giles County might have teachers with tattoos.
Welcome everyone to local politics where no citizen has a voice as to how "elected" officials" represent their citizens after they are elected.
Any chance of returning to the topic ?? Unless lots of Giles' teachers are songwriters being subsidised by Dan Speer spending taxpayer;s $$ but pretending it's his own then you lot are barking up the wrong tree .
GET BACK TO THE TOPIC FOLKS !!
Ima Dragg
How in the world does one equate being lazy with having tattoos and piercings? I do not have tattoos or piercings but think some one is judging some ones work ethic by the style they choose. I'm not saying the statement is ridiculous but I will write that it is.
Just tell us does any teacher in Giles County have tattoos or piercing anywhere but on their ears? I'm finding it very hard to believe.
Let me get this straight:
EDC lands 800 jobs that inject $25 million annually into the local economy and you are concerned that the EDC director gets credit for . . . a contribution to a cultural event? Is this really what we are concerned about in 2012?
The School System "loses" $2.9 million and you say nothing.
Geez. Get your priorities straight if you want to make a difference in this community. All of you are missing the mark. Focus on the individual and you will always lose. Put your efforts into attacking the real fiscal problems and leave personalities out of it. It's really getting old.
Well, if you haven't seen any teachers, men and women, with tattoos or piercings apparently you haven't been spending much time with your kids at school.
Tattoos and piercings are a result of immaturity and laziness, too immature to resist peer pressure and to lazy to fit in based on your individual value and accomplishments.
Do you really think people are not judged by first impressions and appearances?
If you have a big nose ring in your face do you think a potential employer might hire you for the front desk?
10:07 My children and grandchildren have long been out of school. So I'm not around schools. I sure hope some of these people with tattoos I see at WalMart aren't teaching the children of Giles County.
I think your last sentence should also be for the school board, Director and anyone else that hires teachers. Don't appearance apply anymore.
nite 6:25, love you too.xoxoxoxo
Ray Lanier
I think a few of the points that should be noted is that Magnetti had to go through the state economic development and have the governor involved to be able to expand here. The fact that Dan is using tax payers money for his own shameless self promotion is not something that should be taken lightly. How many times has he done similar things. That office needs to be audited.
And on another note I had much rather have a qualified tattooed and pierced employee than some dumb a** that judges people on what they where as opposed to what they are. But maybe I am just not a bigot.
where should be wear. I did not proof read.
People wake up....there is a supervisor at the central office with several tattoos.
Yes that is true.
Although a tatoo shouldn't automatically indicate how good or bad a person can perform their job, it does warrant some additional scrutiny when dexidi g if their decision making skills are appropriate for the surrounding: IE education, maybe not, like a labor or customer service, prob has no bearing if discrete, however most chose to cover so customers aren't giving them the once over.
My 2 cents, and I agree that the topic needs to be rhe focus. But that's what usually happens here....people get upset by something and besides getting buried in the press, it's derailed here. I guess well all forget about the financial mess via the director and the questions about the EDC and the wastewater land etc will be forgotten because of the great news about Magnetti and the apparent efforts off the STATE to bring them here (although how would we know who did if didn't work to bring it here)
11:58 Do you think any commissioner will have the nerve to say anything against what Dan Speer has done?
Remember these commissioners next election.
They never have and I doubt they ever will 9:22
There is only one person in this county with the knowledge and guts to tell the people the truth about what's going on. Mr Barrett is smart enough and fearless enough to get this place straightened but the big wheels don't want nothing to changed so they block his election
Who blocked his election? I am pretty sure the people in his district blocked him from being elected by a very wide margin. So before you look even more stupid you should face the facts. Barrett is a childish troublemaker. Nobody gives a crap about him. 9 out of 10 people I talk to think he is a liar and a nuisance and laugh at his stupidity.
4:45
You are absolutely right. The only person blocking his election is himself.
Oh the games little children play.
Did everyone forget what Dan Speer did?
I don't want to forget the 800 jobs that he helped bring in to Giles County. That would be crazy.
The only way Speer help with any jobs was by staying out of it. He needs to be relocated, by force if necessary. He does nothing but drag this county down, kind of like cg. I guess cg's last name is speer too.
The 800 jobs has come to Giles county yet. We are just hoping they come.
It is people like 10:26 that cry and bitch about everything that makes people cautious of Giles County. How about we use a little force to get you out of town?
8:54 How? I have no idea who she or he is.
Ain't that a bitch, you must be a Speer too. You do know who I am, don't you? My name is Anonymous. A Anonymous, just like yours. Ain;t than the hole purpose of posting like this? I can call you any kind of mormon I want to and their ain't nothing you can do about it. Na-na-na boo-boo, what the hell u gonna do? Ha ha ha.
OK children ... back to time out.
Yes ma'am.
Well, aren't you poltie. 9:53, my 10:41 post was suppoese to be for 8:54. Sometimes my aixelsyd causes words to urn together.
I posted 9:53 making fun of 8:54.
So many of us are posting Anonymous some one might get the wrong anonymous.
I don't believe in trying to run anyone out of town.
Yeah, 9:53. I got to looking and it seemed like my 10:41 post was for you, but i wasn't. Just wanted to clear that up. All these time stamps run together sometimes, apologies.
Same bovine scatology, different year. Now I remember why I haven't visited this pitiful excuse of a free speech blog in over a year...
And yet, we never even noticed you were gone 9:25. Our loss, huh?
'ain't that the hole purpose"
'I can call you any kind of mormon I want"
Really?
has anybody heard city administrator Terry Harrison was resigning and Dan Speer has been chosen to fill in for him until someone can be appointed for his position.
Did see in the paper that he has applied for the CEO job at PES.
Baloney. Speer's job as ED director is full time. Besides, what qualifications does he have to be a city administrator.
Yep, did see where T Harrison had applied for the CEO at PES position. But here again, what qualifications does he have to head up an electric facility - electrical engineer he ain't. Its not all about finance.
would like to see Terry Harrison Apply for the Fincnce Director position. But, he's too smart to do that.
He will not do that, he would have to take a cut in pay and besides he is not smart enough. He not smart enough to hold the electric system job. It's just another way for the little the rooster (Dan) to control everything.
And who are you 4:52? Do you actually have evidence or the aptitude to judge if someone is smart enough to hold those positions? I want to hear how you know for sure that he isn't smart enough to hold either one of those jobs.
It seems there is nothing Dan Speer will not do in the way of self promotion. Giving a thousand dollars of tax payer money under his own name should be investigated as a fraud just as paying nearly a thousand dollars a month to his wife's agency for insurance is a conflict of interest.
The problem seems to be that he has entrenched himself to the point good citizens who know say nothing and others live in denial.
The EDC Board which includes Mrs Vanzant seems to have sat on their collective thumbs and allowed him to do as he pleases no questions, now as with the county financial mess the tax payers have to carry the burden of inaction by those responsible and what appears to me to be the complete breakdown of responsibility by our elected officials.
People could accurately say there is nothing you won't do for self promotion as well Barrett. Carry on being a hypocrite.
He talks about someone else self-promoting. What a laugh. At least he didn't try to trash Tommy Campbell and Terry Harwell this time.
Tweedle dumb and tweedle dumber, my my. Or could be cg and son.
Do you know why some hate Barrett? Because he is watching and willing to check in to things they do wrong with tax payers money.
152 your actally right! its a proven fact that when you go up against Pulaski and Giles County's elected officials, they are going to do everything they can to discredit and run you down, that is why alot of the citizens dont speak up. some just see it as a loosing battle that is fought at your own expense. Another problem that causes many to be silient tax payers is many will say they support you and will be there for you when the time comes to speak out against those who are corrupt, but actually when the time does come, those same people are no where to be found, some will even switch sides on you when the going gets tough.
4:49 You are right. But have you seen any of these people against WAB prove what he said was wrong? No they just whine against him and try to get the subject changed.
All of the commissioners I know don't care enough about Barrett to even talk about him. They all just laugh at the mention of his name. He is pretty much known as an idiot.
I would like to know which commissioners you talk to that have that opinion of him. It seems he is the only one on the ball and maybe if the commissioners that you know where half as much on the ball as Barrett the county would not be riddled with wasteful spending and lost money. Speaking of your buddies the commissioners; did the money that is not missing but they just don't know where it is ever turn up? Maybe old Harwell just put a decimal in the wrong place. Maybe they should hire some one to check his work for him. Wait they tried to but I guess he did not want the janitor looking over his shoulder. It seems the real idiots are you and the commissioners you are talking to.
One more thing. Do your buddies the commissioners approve of ole Danny Boy spending tax payers money like it is his own? Never mind, their lack of action in regards to the EDC is answer enough.
Do you have any friends 7:06? As much as you bitch and complain, I can't see anyone wanting to be around you. You are also very dumb if you don't know the commissioners that laugh about Barrett. Maybe you are Barrett posting anonymously again?
cg Could it be the commissioners are afraid what WAB will find out about them? So nothing they can do but laugh.
Also they know how you feel about WAB, so not going to say anything you can post about.
7:19
Are you really that much of a dumb ass? Don't worry about answering CG. We all know you are. Keep on enabling. Even under a different guise you are still the same old enabler.
7:19
It's not just the commissioners who laugh at him. It's widespread throughout the county.
10:26 Funny I've started hearing people that use to laugh at Barrett say, "I hate to say it but no telling what they would get away with if it wasn't for Barrett. He don't mind checking into what they are doing."
I'm sure the officials, their family and friends still don't like Barrett, wonder why. lol
You'll go to hell for lying just like you would for stealing or murder, enabler of wrongdoings and habitual liar who is the cg. Seems that is one thing Barrett was right about all along.
12:19
You must be a relative of that man, because you defend him no matter what he does or who he hurts. And while we are at it, my Bible teaches that those with the lying tongue, the proud look, the haughty spirit, and feet that are swift to mischief (Proverbs 6) are in great danger of going to hell unless they repent. I don't expect him to be repenting anytime soon. Do you? No, there's too much pride in the way. Don't you find that a bit hypocritical?
We got along just fine in Giles County before he came here and will do equally well or perhaps better once his rantings and ravings (self-promotion) end. And they will one day.
I honestly believe the man you so eagerly defend is in dire need of at least a mental health evaluation.
Hahahaha, 741, thanks for a great laugh
First thing.....an that is meant sarcastically.
7:41, we got along in Giles County before automobiles and indoor plumbing too; that doesn't mean we want to go back to that day. Many people fear change and are more than willing to go along with the status quo, but that doesn't make change a bad thing.
I don't understand why you are so adamantly opposed to accountability in our local government, which is really what B is trying to help establish. I don't always agree with his methods, but I respect what he's trying to do.
I don't know what happened to you that you have become so dead set against anyone, especially Barrett, saying anything against the county managers. You are quick enough to point out the flaws you see in our state and federal system, so what's the difference? I personally like Janet and several of the commissioners -- I believe she cares about the county: her's is a tough job and I certainly wouldn't want it -- but that doesn't mean I have to approve of the way they sometimes do things. No one is trying to "hang them on the square", we just have questions we want answered. That's our right as citizens and taxpayers.
I never served in the military, but I know you did. You put your country before yourself then, why not do the same thing now?
This comment is not intended to bash anyone. I realize I am probably going to receive a rasher of crap for posting, but that's my opinion, such as it is.
Ray Lanier
8:29
It's no laughing matter friend.
Ray
No, I totally agree with you. We all should question government and expect accountability. I have lost a lot of respect for some in government just lately, but I am not about to get on this blog and start calling them names or trying to destroy them. I just don't think that's the way we should do things. Stirring up division and hatred is better left to evil people who live somewhere else....
I guess no one questioned the county government before WAB so you and your friend or relative was happy. Now WAB does question and you can't stand it. I will say one thing, I wish WAB wouldn't call anyone a bad name and think he has quit that.
Ray a good post.
I think we should question what the federal and county government do. Our tax dollars are paying both.
Now when are we going to learn about the financial mess? I find it hard to believe Loretta Garner is the only one at fault. From what I have heard all of it hasn't come out yet, but maybe I've been listening to gossip.
924, I know it's not--but that post made me laugh, delusional.
Ray--absolutely beat post I've seen from you. Right on point and
Didn't have to call anyone names....no matter what people's beliefs are or politics, all should be able to agree on right an wrong and accountability....no matter who's name is attached.
Ya know? $6,000 per month or $72,000 per year is a whole lot less than what was submitted by the County Executive (which was $225,000) during last year's budget process as revenue from the weigh station.
12:11 That will be 6,000 more for them to blow in. That's really not guaranteed. There might not be many fines.
Has the missing money been found yet?
Did Dan Speer's wife or company not help the teachers know the money was missing
GTC Says:
First off: This has noting what so even to do with the subject of this individual blog. But, since this particular blog seems to enjoy the most response, I hereby ask the following:
There is an announcement in the June 19th Pulaski Citizen signed by Janet P Vanzant Giles County Executive ... requesting anyone who might be interested in applying their qualifications for consideration as Giles County Financial Management Director.
So what do you say?????
Mrs. Vanzant's announcement applies a deadline for all applications to be 3:30 PM June 16th.
That was four (4) days ago !!!!!!
If anyone who is now reading this newspaper will without a doubt notice that this announcement was published after the deadline date. Even if this is a mistake by the County Executive, the local newspaper or GOD ... This makes Giles County look like a bunch or igmos, morons, stupid and whatever other name you wish to attach. Who with any degree of intelligence would want to work with a County Executive who cannot get a simple announcement correct??????
Yes Janet… you will state that this was not your fault. SORRY but this is your fault! You are in charge, you are responsible, you are the County leader (GOD help us). Your supporters will simply state “Bless her heart” she did not make a mistake.
How many non-mistakes can this County afford? The citizens should and will demand responsibility from our officials.
Neither Dan or Brenda had anything to do with the problem being exposed. the state Comptroller was contacted by a private citizen, you might say a troublemaker, and they got involved and as the saying goes s--- rolls downhill and it stopped with a splat at Janet, Tee and Loretta's desks.
My question is to CG the enabler, I know he'll never answer, what was the person who contacted the comptroller a troublemaker, a concerned citizen, or what and how was what they did different from what Barrett and others has tried to do?
Who is the troublemaker that contacted the comptroller's office? Inquiring minds want to know.
7:39 Must you continue promoting the lie allen barrett told on me that I willfully go along with wrongdoings? That's right; he told a lie, and you defend him.
Contacted the comptroller? I don't know anything about that. But, as I've said numerous times before, I have no patience with lawbreakers, regardless of who they are. They should be punished. Ok? I suppose you will say I'm enabling wrong again? Probably so. The irony would be that, if you do, you will be the liar and not me.
Was it not Brenda Speers insurance company that contacted teachers their premium hadn't been paid?
Was that not why teachers got stirred up and big tommy campbell didn't want the teachers allowed in when commissioners met?
Several elections coming up. Let's see some of you geniuses put your name on the ballot and try to get elected. Or be content to wallow in the self-pity fest this blog is, unfortunately, becoming.
Oh hell, here cg goes again. I wondered how long it would take for him to start that poor, pitiful me crap again. Barrett told a lie blah blah...I'm not a liar cause I'm a Christian blah blah...I'm praying to God to relieve these hemorrhoids so I'll be in a better mood blah blah...You proved yourself a liar by saying you were done with this blog and then posting the very same day, so Barrett was right all along. You are a liar, admit it and get past it. No one wants to hear your incessant whining on here anymore. Jesus Christ himself is sick of listening to you.
10:48
Oh, don't think for a minute that these people won't be either running themselves or promoting those they feel are as smart as they are. Ha. The problem they continue to be facing is that people do not like the arrogance and know-it-all attitudes these people tend to have. Therefore, they continue to get defeated at the voting booth. Of course there are some exceptions wherein they get one of "their people" in. That happened not too long ago on an appointed position. Remember? It was sleazy and dirty politics to the core.
11:45
When I said I was leaving this filthy blog, I never said I was going to stop reading it. Furthermore, I had no intention of posting again, but it's because of people like you and your other buddy that drew me back into the fray. You kept attacking with your smart aleck remarks, so I got enough of it. That prompted me to change my mind. There's more than a subtle difference between changing one's mind and in telling a lie. The liar is the one who accused me of willfully going along with and supporting wrongdoings. And you and I both know who he is.
But let's look at the long and short of it all. You guys wanted me back here, because drama and troublemaking is how you roll. Ok, let's go. Once again, I will be your huckleberry.
Besides, I am needed here to stand against such things as the charter and other issues such as elections.
So,CG or enabler whichever you prefer...by your own admission you are here to stand against elections.If you dont believe me check out your own words posted on June 21 at 5:47 am. "Besides, I am needed here to stand against such things as the charter and other issues such as elections." What exactly are you saying in this statement? The words you wrote tell me you are against the charter,which is your right and you are against fair and open elections which is the right of every citizen of this country. To be honest I think this particular huckleberry called cg has gotten quite moldy and stale.
7:30
I KNEW sombody like you would take issue with what I said about elections. I realized after I had posted that what I said wasn't worded right. Sharp eye there. What I meant by elections is NOT that I stand against the sanctioned electoral process. I just oppose the election of troublemakers. Put simply, I stand against certain candidates. Isn't that the same thing you do...or do you vote?
Oh yes, I am against the charter and assure you that I will do all I can to see it defeated. But don't misrepresent what I said about fair elections. Case in point. A certain individual we know lost in a landslide for an election that atually was fair because it reflected the will of the voters. But he refused to accept that and tried to overturn the vote. What about that? Nice try.
OK CG Huckleberry .. specifically what about the proposed charter are you against?
8:04 What are you specifically in favor of with regard to it? I don't owe you an explanation.
First off cg, Val Kilmer delivered the "huckleberry" line far better than you ever have and secondly, a lie is a lie, not matter what kind of spin you try to put on it. You said you were going to stop posting, you didn't, hence the lie. Barrett may have lost the first time, but with you campaining for him, by your constant whining about him, I think he would stand a far better chance should he decide to run again. Same goes for the charter. With you bitching about it, it just makes me want to vote it in that much more. I'm not 8:04, but I am specifically for the charter because it gives dumb old citizens like us a voice in what goes on. You can continue being cattle that gets herded where ever the farmer thinks is best, but I will not.
I am 8:04
OK CG I am typing this response slowly so that even you may understand.
The proposed charter requires all elected officials to be fully accountable to all citizens and not the other way around. The charter requires a zero based budget system that does not allow the county to spend more than the revenue they have. The charter requires that the county executive prepare and present to the public their plans and goals for Giles County annually and a financial plan annually. The proposed charter requires that all County offices prepare a 3-year operations plan and a 5-year capital plan (I guess you don't believe in financial planning?). The proposed charter requires that the commissioners and the county executive have (as a minimum a High School or GED education. Again I guess you are not in favor of them having the very basic of education so that they can at least possibly read and understand what they are doing?
But you don't owe anyone an explanation. Or, is it you are unable to think of one?
Yes I know that you are against Barrett and everyone who is supporting this charter. So was King George in the late 1700's....but then who would have guessed that a bunch of ignorant peasants would win their freedom from the most powerful government in existence?
Poor ... Poor ... pitiful CG everyone is against him and he is feeling so sad. And, by your own admission you also are a liar, were a liar and continue to lie. You just hate it when this is pointed out using your own words.
Recently noticed a wrecked city vehicle down at Gibson's. Looks like the Ford Explorer that
Terry Harrison drove. Anyone have any details what happened or if anyone was injured in this accident? Appears to be a head-on-collision by looking at the damage.
9:38
First off, who said I was trying to do a better job than did Val Kilmer? What's your point?
Secondly, would you call Brett Favre a liar when he came back from retirement to play football? Would you be so stupid as to think that? He changed his mind. Have you NEVER changed your mind about anything?
As for the charter, you vote the way you feel you should, but mine will cancel yours out. Be assured. The question I am already asking people I come into contact with is simply why do we need a charter? Most all of them say they don't have a clue. Oh, I'm sure you would counter with the accountability issue to which most people just shrug their shoulders and ask why all the fuss. I agree. As for having a voice in what goes on, how is a charter going to provide that voice for you? Elected officials will still be running the show and those who don't need to be in there will not be voted in or will be voted out at the first opportunity to do so. Please answer that for me. How is a charter going to give you more voice than you and I already have?
But again, vote however you think best. That's your right.
8:04 (11:37)
The charter would make officials more accountable? I believe they arlready are. Besides, you guys make sure of that. So why do we need a charter to achieve that end?
You mentioned a zero budget system that would prevent the county from spending more than the revenues at hand. What happens when the costs of doing business exceed the revenues at hand? Oh, I forgot. The people will gladly go into the voting booths and opt for more taxes. Right?
Who said I don't believe in financial planning? I believe you did...not me. I see no problem with any firm, business, or government projecting goals and plans. I have no problem with a county executive preparing projections and financial plans inasmuch as that would be possible.
Granted, commissioners and the county executive should have at least a high school or Ged diploma. I didn't realize that we ever had a county executive who didn't graduate high school? Did we? You insult the integrity of Giles Copuntians by implying that some can't read and understand. But that's typical, and we usually just laugh and say, "We don't care how you did it up North."
Yes, in all honesty, I am totally against allen barrett and his followers. I see them as troublemakers, and we don't need that going on here all the time. In fact, we don't need their help. And please do not suggest that I am playing ostrich. I love Giles County and want only the best for it. Granted, there are problems, but let's let those who actually are IN CHARGE work them out. And I know they are trying and do not need interference by troublemakers. Your King George reference is totally ridiculous.
Call me a liar if you will, but the simplye truth is that I have NEVER told a lie on this blog. And I won't start now. Oh, how you hate to be reminded of that. Accept it and move on.
What I'd like to know is how the application of logic in
Letting those IN CHARGE Handle things and having a voice work. If they are not handling it by your reasoning we should just butt out....and by saying anything were a troublemaker? Can't have it both ways bubb.
Guess the people that reported the Sandusky scandal troublemakers, or the ones that exposed former President Nixon, troublemakers, and the ones that fought and died for freedom from King George were troublemakers--he was in charge right?
bubb
We all have a voice in government. Have you ever read the Constitution? I believe you can see it online if you don't happen to have a copy at home.
Look, I have no problem with someone blowing the whistle on people who are committing crimes. That would also include elected officials. But let's compare apples with apples. If any of our elected officials are committing crimes, then by all means turn them in as they need to be prosecuted. Now, if you want your concerns addressed through proper channels, you have several avenues of communication available to you. Call your representatives, your congressmen, or your commissioners if at a local level. I think smarter people than you and I set this up for us. And having a voice does not mean we call names and do our best to destroy those elected individuals the people put there in the first place.
I think you need to stop listening to the troublemaker-in-chief and try very hard to become a team player. By the way, your strongest voice is your vote. That's the democratic process. Beating people over the head just because they don't do things the way YOU and a few others think they should is certainly not.
Or another channel as most elected officials band together and will not take action against one of their own, unless they perceive it to be an advantage to them. So as this is a free country and every one has the right to take the action in which gets a response. For example we know that our elected officials protect one another and our local media will not report but part of the story and nothing at all if it is controversial. But then again when you have elected officials writing articles under pseudonyms in the local paper what do you expect.
The only way for an average citizen to make any change is to bring the actions to light so the other average citizens are better informed as to the actions of those that are elected. And if those officials are re-elected then it is on the citizens and they have to deal with what we are dealing with in Giles County and Pulaski governments.
One of the things I would like to know is what is being done about Speer using our money to promote himself?
Why do we have a County Commissioner working in the financial management office? Is he even qualified for the position he is paid. Are they prorating his salary when he attends commissioner meetings or is he still paid the same?
Has the money that is not missing ever show up. I have not read or heard one report after Tommy Campbell's and Vanzant's asinine statement.
I can continue but I am glad to see more citizen's waking up to what is going on and who has a stranglehold on the community. And a lot of that is because of this blog. Is it perfect? Absolutely not because of those who police the blog, not to discuss issues, but to attack those who choose to exercise their Constitutional rights and question government.
Maybe one day Giles County government will be something to be proud of but as it stands it is an embarrassment.
You are a pitiful, bitching, and crying troublemaker 3:45. I would like to know if there is anything in your life that makes you happy? Nothing is ever 100% perfect. It is much better to have a positive attitude than bitch all the time. Nobody will ever listen to you if you continue to be an embarrassing voice for the citizens. You sound just like Barrett. I had rather have a few commissioners that aren't up to par than have some know-it-all like you in office. Go back to where you came from. That will make everyone happy.
3:45 Great post.
I would also like to say the only thing I know about Barret is his post on this blog and have yet to see the great CG post anything that proves Barrett is wrong.
CG did Speer not give money that was taxpayers money as his personal gift?
I'm sick of seeing Cg same as saying we haven't got enough sense to know what is going on and not like it if Barrett don't tell us to.
It's a good thing that those elected officials are doing such a great job taking care of county and city business as CG claims guess that's why there is no problem with county finances, the County Executive advertises for a Financial Management Director with a deadline three days before the announcement is made.
Only the super efficiency of county officials can run an ambulance service at a half million dollar loss, charge a thousand dollars a mile for a trip and still not be able to compete with ambulance services from surrounding counties.
If there was ever any doubt about covering up for each other I'd bet there wasn't even an accident report made on the wrecked explorer. I remember not long ago a certain locksmith wrecked his truck in my yard and when the law came they didn't do nothing because he left the scene.
Of about that Constitution you was talking about it's not on the internet but under the feet of king obama.
324
Well I haven't read all your post, I can tell you that I have a copy in book form of the constitution.....
Courtesy ironically of the Charter committee. Where'd you get yours?
4:28
Thank you for the advice as I am already here. The land of milk & honey. Born and raised. I would also like to thank you for giving a good example of what I am referring to in my 3:45 post. So tell us a little about your self. How much do you take home of taxpayer money to feed your family to have an attitude like that.
Piss on the charter committee. Nothing but a group of misfits. They need to put their personal lives together before trying to change the face of Giles County government. I think the 800 jobs are an indicator that the current form of government is working well when you consider the extreme difficulty of the current economy. The only people I know in our current government that aren't performing for the people are the ones that agree with those that want a charter or are family members if someone on the charter committee. To me, that is a direct conflict of interest.
Sorry 8:20, but I don't take home any money from the citizens of Giles County. Keep bitching and crying. You are as good at it as anyone I know. Tell me a little about yourself. Are you mentally functional? Are you someone that would like to have a say in everything but nobody seems to trust you? Do you cry everyday about being wronged by someone or some group? Poor girl. Grow up and realize that nothing or nobody is perfect.
4:28 Good post. I agree. Interesting that the subtle attacks against Terry Harwell and Tommy Campbell seem unrelenting. Oh, I forgot. Both commissioners represent District 7.
8:22 Good post. I agree. Yours are some of the points we need to drive home to Giles County voters and get this charter defeated before it is imposed on us all. We just don't need it.
The Ford Explorer wrecked and sitting at Gibson's is the one belonging to the city and driven by Terry Harrison.
I find it hard to believe that anyone opposing the present County Executive or for that matter anyone fearful of a super-powerful county executive would support the proposed charter.
The new charter gives the County Executive and the County Executive alone the power to veto any line item of the budget, to transfer 20% of any departments budget however the County Executive wants, and take any remedial action she deems fit during times of deficits.
I'm sorry folks but these are deal killers to me. We may have an inept county commission but I refuse to swap that for a charter that centralizes such financial power in only one person, the county executive. We might never recover from his or her sole decisions.
The only good thing I see about the charter is the commissioners can only run two terms without setting out a term.
8:22
Thank the state EDC and the governor for the 800 jobs. Had they not been involved I very much doubt those 800 jobs would have seen the light of day under this government.
Yea, we should let the people in charge work the problems out, since they were the ones that caused them. They should be familier enough with them. cg is absolutely right, out vote is our strongest voice. Let's use it to shout yes for the charter. It's time for the citizens to have a say in what goes on in their county once again.
10:10
You are exactly right. That's a good reason to get this charter issue defeated before it gains a stranglehold on our county. We need less government control and not more.
Contrary to what those who are pushing the charter claim, other counties who voted themselves one have had serious problems with it. And the sad thing is that, once they realize what they have voted in, it's very difficult if not impossible to dissolve.
Yours is another good point we need to impress upon the voters of Giles County.
The group who is pushing the charter here may decide to pull up and move someday (nice thought), but this is our home and we will be left here to deal with the mess it creates. Let's work hard to see it defeated. We do have a say in what goes on here. We can vote and MUST vote to see the charter go down in flames of defeat.
Thank you for making a valuable point that we will make to voters.
6:54
You are ridiculous. We are from here so stop your whining and lying.
7:56
Exactly what lie did I tell? I never said all the members of this bunch are from elsewhere.
You always leave little words out or add one that you think will save you. Like the word ALL.
Comments like the following could be why people don't want to move their jobs to Giles County, might even be why they moved them away.
“The group who is pushing the charter here may decide to pull up and move someday (nice thought), but this is our home and we will be left here to deal with the mess it creates”
“Go back to where you came from. That will make everyone happy.”
What counties are having serious problems with charters?
One point regarding the County Executive veto authority ... The Commission can override any veto with a 2/3 vote. Maury county seesm to run well with this setup.
9:11
I believe the reason people and industry do not want to move here is because of all the troublemaking going on here. Should those people be thanked for that? Doesn't sound like "betterment" to me.
6:54 you are nothing but a liar about the charter being a problem in counties that have adopted it. First of all the charter written for Giles county to vote on is different from every other charter. I challenge you to name one county where the adoption of a charter has proven to be a problem for anyone other than those entrenched officials seeking to hold on to their absolute power.
Second lie you told is about it being near impossible to get rid of a charter after it is adopted. The very same process exist to dissolve a charter as exist to create one.
If you don't know something you should just be quite instead of making up a lie to fit your point of view.
Will someone please tell me why it is necessary for Dan Speer to take up a parking place at the front of the city offices which when all the spaces are taken, causes we handicapped folks to have to park elsewhere and walk distances that we can no longer manage? I thought Speer was assigned a dedicated parking place at the side of the building. Barring that, he should be parking elsewhere and not in the front of the building which should be reserved for people who need to do busines with the city. Speer's parking today was not just a dash in. He was there a considerable length of time. Regardless, even if its a quick stop he needs to make he should park in his designated space and leave room for those less physically fortunate.
I agree 10:09. a lot of trouble has been created by elected officials abuse of power, county employees non- accountability in highly compensated positions as well as donations of tax payer monies in their own name for their own promotion, millions missing from county funds, etc. I absolutely agree that an investigation needs to be conducted and these troublemakers be held accountable to the citizens of Giles County. Good post.
Again our current leaders had NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING to do with the new jobs coming to the county. Vote there butts out.....I do not plan on voting for one single incumbent period!
10:09 You are so are right all this trouble making by giving tax payer money as yours and loosing all that tax payer money. That sure does make them a bunch of trouble makers.
Some people just can't take the heat, brag on your post. lol
Teachers were informed that AFLAC insurance premiums had not been paid via a letter from AFLAC.
What would of happen if AFLAC hadn't informed the teachers? Would this of just gone on and on?
Isn't that the company Brenda Speers works for? Do you think they didn't inform her also?
If you see Speer's white vehicle #GW5507 driving around without his magnetic sign on it or his wife driving put it on this blog then it may cut back on there shopping trips!
To 6:54 amd 8:00 yesterday
What counties are having serious problems with charters? You seem to have a good deal of knowledge on this subject; so please enlighten us.
6:25
You know very well that there are serious problems with the charter situations n other counties. More n that later.
No .. I do not know very well or at all that there are problems with counties that have charter forms of government.
How many counties have a charter form of government and which counties are they?
You seem to have first hand knowledge regarding serious problems with charter situations in other counties; please explain what they are?
Thanks
Soon ok? We must see this thing defeated. I just learned that this mess has to be published in it's entirety in the newspaper. It will cost county taxpayers three thousand dollars to do that. I thought the so-called charter was all about saving the taxpayer dollar rather than spending it? No, it's really an attempt (my opinion) to get people out of office whom the voters want to be in office. Silly, isn't it. Why even have elections anymore? Wait! Now there's an idea the malcontents might want to pursue.But I don't know how they can since they never meet to discuss things. Perhaps a conference call?
8:02, you're not going to get an answer because the poster doesn't have one. He knows he's just spreading propaganda with nothing to back it up. A charter won't fix all our problems, but it's a step in the right direction.
8:20 Where did you "learn" it will cost the tax payers $3000 or is it just more of your lies with absolutely nothing to support it like your usual statements?
I also want to thank you for your posts as you continue to convince many citizens there is a need for a charter if they are ever to have responsible representation in this county. Since you seem to be tight with or are one of our elected officials and take it upon yourself to be the voice of those in office who are not responsible with our money and lack the ability to govern as well as set budgets and operate within those budgets maybe you can answer a question? Why don't you share with us where the missing millions are since $3000, if there is even any truth to your statement, is more important to you and your little group that has a stranglehold on this county, than the citizens having responsible and competent government. Is it in Speer's pocket or did some one donate it and take personal credit for the donation? I await your opinion with no foundation in fact.
And before you try to twist any thing in my post, I am simply asking questions and stating I do not believe any thing you post.
Sincerely,
CG still whining & lying
AMEN!
mal
That came up at the recent budget meeting. Interestingly, you guys were not there with cameras rolling. Imagine that; three thousand dollars to get the thing in the paper in its entirety? I'm sure you guys will go over it with a magnifying glass to make sure nothing was "corruptly" left out.
No, I have been very successful in convincing friends that a charter is precisely what our county does not need. I encourage them to tell their friends and family as well. That multi-level marketing concept really comes in handyI don't have a little group. However, I am working to see the charter defeat. By the way, I think it's your little group who has brought this on.
Why do we have to wait for you to tell us the counties that are having problems with their charter. Is that one of your lies? It is, isn't it. You don't know of a single one and are hoping to come up with a name soon. If you are telling the truth, just give us the county name and we will honestly report the issues with their charter. But you won't because you can't do that. And you will either try and buy more time or as with most county officials pretend the question never came up and therefore requires no answer. Keep on tipping your hand as to your identity, you are just not that clever!
I see you "interestingly" found a way to side step the issue of the missing millions. Did they, at the budget committee, bring up where the millions of dollars that came up missing are or are the alleged $3000 dollars that may need to be spent and the defeat of the charter by your little band of buddies on the commission priority now? And I am sure you are very convincing in the lies you tell to try to defeat the charter so there will be no accountability with the county finances and those that abuse their positions can continue with the blank check policy until Giles County does have to borrow money from a local institution at high interest rates just to pay the monthly expenses and leave the taxpayers on the hook. We see you support business as usual and thank God we do not have the same friends because I am seeing the Charter has a real shot at getting voted in and a lot of the reason is in part thanks to you. Thanks again for helping to promote of the charter.
To 8:20
Soon? No give us an answer now.
As for a requirement that rthe entire charter must be published in the newspaper is a bunch of mis-truth. There is no Tennessee law that requires the Charter to be published.
The Charter is "published" and has been published at the Pulaski Citizen web site for over a year. That will require you to exert some effort to find and open a pdf. file.
The Charter Commission spent $3,500 publishing 3,00 copies of the charter and they are available to anyone who wishes a copy. Please contact you district Charter Commissioner, District Commissioner or the newspaper, and request a copy.
Now back to your point that there are counties that are currently runing their respective government under the provisions of a charter; and, those counties are having serious problems.
How about I make your answer easy?
1) How many counties currently have a charter form of government?
2) And, what form of charter government are they employing? HINT - there must be more than one.
3) Then, for a bonus ... How many of those counties are having problems with their charter?
Give her time she's got top go ask Janet Vanzant before she can answer.
This sounds like the "I know something you don't know." Or "I'm going to tell something you don't want told if you don't stop telling those lies on me."
As long as cg convinced his friends to vote against, that's only 2 people we've got to worry about, and I sure 1 of them just agreed so he would shut-up about it.
"One point regarding the County Executive veto authority ... The Commission can override any veto with a 2/3 vote. Maury county seems to run well with this setup."
Surely you have seen how many times the Giles County commission has failed to come up with a 2/3 vote. Again, there is no way I can support this new Charter that offers a power grab to this or to any future County Executive.
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:41
If I mentioned those counties, you guys would just call me a liar. Let's not be premature. This will be played up at the proper time. Out job is to educate the voters before they make the mistak of voting for the charter. And we will. Is it not our right to be just as against it as you guys are in favor of it? If not, why not?
So why not publish it so we might be educated and informed to what the specifics of their charter versus the one to be voted on? If that is your intention I would love to hear it. Most peoples opinion if supported with fact has been welcomed and not attacked, with the exception of Barrett. I would like to do my own investigation into the counties and how they stand financially against Giles at the present. If your intentions are honorable it is my opinion that discussion of apples to apples would be welcome.
Be careful in how you categorize....It's not always the us versus them.
I oppose Janet Vanzant;
I oppose Tee Jackson; and
I oppose the proposed Charter.
Am I suppose to believe 10:40 is CG?
As was posted on a previous topic, read the proposed charter for yourself and then make an informed decision. Don't pay any attention to all the hateful dissention coming from cg and his cohorts, decide for yourself and vote accordingly. That's the only rational way to approach the situation. If you want a say in the decisions made by your representatives, vote for it. If you want to be told that your not smart enough to make your own choices, vote against it. It's really not all that difficult. I personally think we citizens are as smart as the ones we elect to carry out our wishes. It's not our fault that most of them turn to their own agendas once they gain the power we give them. It seems like they become smarter than their constituents once they are elected, what kind of sense does that make? Keep the power in our hands, at least we will know who to blame if we screw things up.
Ray Lanier
Ray
I have been very supportive and defending of you up until now. I did that even when the troublemakers were iving you a hard time.
Just because I don't want the charter doesn't make me a hateful person. I realize that you are trying hard to appear intelligent, and I can appreciate that. But my so-called "dissension" from the norm on this blog is out of love and concern for Giles County. Surely you can appreciate that.
But rest assured that I will be working right along side my "cohorts" to see this thing defeated.
This charter reminds me of something I heard a preacher friend of mine say. We shouldn't pray for everything we want, because we just might get it.
GTC to CG:
It is totally funny that you are so adamant about ideas and issues that you support yet you are totally incapable of answering three simple questions. This leads us to believe that you have no clue regarding what you are talking about. You dodge questions and state that you are informed and have superior knowledge regarding those counties that are currently being managed under a charter form of government. Yet you refuse to identify any such county; therefore, one has to draw the conclusion that you have no idea what counties are being managed under a charter. And, since you cannot identify a single charter county, you have no idea whether or not they are having “serious problems” (as you stated). This just proves that you have no clue and are a liar.
Because I am willing to help you out …. There are more than one county managed under a charter and less than six. There are four counties that are currently considering changing their current style of government to a charter government.
Now … How many types of charter governments are there? Hint… there is more than one.
GTC
You say there are four counties that are currently considering a change to the charter system of government. If I wewre a betting man, I would say that, if that be true, those four counties also have a little group of people who are pushing it and who never meet to discuss anything. Furthermore, I would bet that none of these people ever even heard of Ben Cunningham. What a laugh.
Please don't bother trying to help me out. Giles County does not need this charter, and I plan to do all within my power to see it defeated. That's still my right.
Thank you.
YO CG
What an idiot you are .. Again you dodge the questions. This supports my position that you a pompous self-important person who is interested in the sound of their own voice. Yes there are counties considering Home Rule Charters and some of the elected Commissions are meeting some resistance.
Yes, it is your right to oppose the proposed Giles County Charter. But, it is not your right to mislead and misinform our citizens by saying that there are counties that are currently operating under a charter form of government and that those counties are having “serious problems”. It has become very obvious that your are totally ignorant on this subject and that you have no clue what counties are operating under a charter, what form of charter they have and whether or not they are having problems. By the way … Giles County is having very serious problems.
You do seem to have a very difficult time with a person named Ben Cunningham. I personally do not know him or have met him; but if you hate him … I will undoubtedly enjoy making his acquaintance.
I am laughing out loud at you and your self perceived level of knowledge. As others have stated you continue to whine and tell lies … whine and tell lies. Plain and simple, by your own words, you are a whiner and a liar.
GTC
CG, I appreciate your support and defence of me on this blog. I defend your right to vote as you see fit, as do I everyone's right to do the same. I never said you were a hateful person, just that some of your post were hateful. As for cohorts, you seem to feel as if I'm using it in a derogatory manner. Untrue. The definition of cohorts is merely a "group", as was my meaning when I wrote it. BTW, I don't have to appear to be intelligent, I simply am. It's not my fault and I won't apologize for being smart. I'm not out to impress anyone on here, as you should know if you've read any of my posts. I say what I think and then I sign my name to it. Not a terrible way to behave, IMHO. Give it a try, it's quite liberating. Everyone reading my posts has the opportunity to judge me or not, as they see fit. No one has to guess as to the author, and I will continue to sign for as long as I post on this blog. Have a nice day.
Ray Lanier
cg, why do you not tell them it's Knox and Shelby?
Go read for yourself:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=tennesse+counties+that+are+ruled+by+charter&oq=tennesse+counties+that+are+ruled+by+charter&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=firefox-hp.12...824778.857133.0.860061.75.36.12.27.3.0.464.5471.1j33j0j1j1.36.0...0.0.Lsq1Rp_JQgg
In Tennessee, only Shelby County and Knox County have home rule charter counties. The Shelby County Charter was ratified by the voters of the county on August 2, 1984 and became effective on September 1, 1986. The Knox County charter was approved by referendum on November 8, 1988. That charter became effective beginning September 1, 1990.
Now call these two counties and see how it works. I'm sure they will have a few like cg that don't like it, so call more than one.
Also check for finance report for Jan., Feb. and March of Giles County.
www.gilescountytn/financereport.aspo
GTC says to 5:58 PM
Do you think that CG will believe you? Do you think that CG will do what you ask?
I think not! CG is a person who believes himself and only himself regardless what others say.
OK CG since 5:58 has helped you out of your delemia
Have any of the commissioners even questioned Speer using our tax dollars as his own in the promotion of the songwriters night? Or are they looking into increasing his budget this year if the dues go up at the country club? I see the country club is having some bands play there. I wonder if any of our tax dollars helped that to happen?
Also does any one know what the budget is for EDC?
CG lying again but that ain't news to anybody. Glad to see it found another boogeyman besides Barrett. I saw Cunningham on TV and wonder if that's where CG got the idea to make him another boogeyman since Barrett don't seem to be responding much lately.
Wasn't very surprised to see ole CG make a liar out of the Bible again with his own myopic interpretation.
Since the Bible states that we should pray for those things we want CG says we shouldn't pray for those things we want, the goof-ball
is so full of himself that he can't even agree with the Bible but still thinks of himself as a Christian. My, my what a guy or whatever,
9:16
I try very hard to follwo your logic, but that's impossible. I didn't make a liar out of the Bible. Are you nuts?
Let's say a bank robber prays for an uneventful experience at his next bank heist. Should he pray that all goes well during the robbery? Should an adulterer pray that he has lots of success with his vices in the future? You get the picture.
Having said all that, would you be so kind as to tell me specifically where I have lied? No, you just can't seem to stand it that I am not a liar. Your accusing me of that makes you the liar...not me.
Is there anything you really want to discuss?
Why are we on that dumb ass CG again? Every one knows it is a liar.
The more important issue is how much of our money is going to Dan Speer's life style? Does he or Brenda sit on the board of the country club? Why are our tax dollars being paid to his wife's company? Why did it take the state to step in to ensure we got a factory that will employee 800 jobs? why is a psychology major who ran Pulaski into debt as mayor, only built sidewalks while in office, and basically pissed off every working person in Pulaski by putting a strangle hold on industry coming in here while in office. When the EDC held property, illegally in it's name who insured those properties? Was it Speer Horne? There needs to be a complete audit done of his office. In regards to all the cell phones the tax payers are paying for a complete audit needs to be done of his cell phone bills and the numbers called. Then we can see the actual companies that wanted to come to Giles County and were turned away. When you have some one like him as gate keeper to industry it is never good.
How many of the current EDC members were appointed to the board when he was Mayor? We need to quit wasting our money on this guy.
Have ANY of you EVER talked (or emailed with ) Ben Cunningham to even know what he stands for ?
Purely and simply put his mantra is "NO MORE TAXES " and one way he puts his effort (and $$ ) where his mouth is is by providing support and information to any group investigating the introduction of a Home Rule Charter into local government. Most charters (including the one Giles voters get to vote on in August ) constrain their local gov'ts ability to increase taxation without input from taxpayers .
For no more reason than that, Giles voters should for FOR the charter
Betty S
I can't imagine a person going to commit adultery or robbery ever praying for anything. They should know God doesn't approve of that.
Does not matter what CG thinks he's already proven to be a liar and a brain dead parasite.
When the Bible says to pray for the desires of your heart and that we have not because we ask not DOES NOT mean we can't pray for the wrong things as we have seen many examples of. What amazes me about cg is that he knows so much about other people and their need to repent but can't see his own shortcomings. Of course he'll come back and say "didn't I say we all make mistakes and I have to ask God's forgiveness everyday".
The problem is cg portrays himself as deserving of that forgiveness and no one else does unless cg puts his stamp of approval on it.
Of course people pray for what they want abaseball batter prays for a hit while the pitcher prays to strike him out. Does God answer both prayers? The Bible says God hears the prayers of a righteous man not a self-righteous. A thief or an adulterer can be very successful whether they are praying or not, their success depends on many things from how cunning to how ruthless and lucky they are.
So what we pray for is up to us, what and how God responds is up to Him.
cg has proven to be a liar in a large number of situations and there are very few who can deny the evidence he trys to ignore, but the facts are facts.
wab (1:42)
Look, please don't bother giving me one of your sermons. I can't hear a word you say because I think your actions are deafening.
All I said was that we should never pray for everything we want, because we just might get them...the wrong or selfish things.
Yep. God does hear the prayers of a righteous man. He ehars mine. Does he hear yours? When you call public officials and "private citizens" such as me liars and such, do you think he approves of your behavior?
I was simply making a point that just because we pray for something doesn't mean we should be asking for it.
I do wish you would stop lying. You falsely state that I have been proven to be a liar in a large number of situations. Please list a few of them for my enlightenment.
It really seems that the CG knows less about the Bible than he does about Charter County Governments.
2:21
Laughable comment.
Doesn't calling yourself righteous fall under the sin of pride? It's not for you to determine if you are righteous or not. I believe God is the judge of that, is He not?
No matter who post on here cg thinks its wab like I think his post or jv.
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