Some Questions About For Economic Development Director
Going over some of the expenses for the Economic Development Director I find, what I consider, some very interesting and questionable expenses.
1. Why have taxpayers paid more than $900.00 a month for health insurance to an insurance agency owned by the Economic Development Director's wife. Isn't that a conflict of interest? Was this insurance bid out or just assigned? Why were check numbers 4413 and 4414 issued to the same person, the same day, for the same thing in the same amount $874.31?
2. Just how many phones does the Economic Director have or need? There are checks for $17.87 for a phone, $17.87 for a dedicated fax line, $44.45 for a different phone and varying monthly charges, between $149.10 to $151.77, for a cell phone?
3. Why are taxpayers paying for a phone, internet and cable TV, the Bronze tier and HD, for the director at a monthly cost of over $130.00? I can understand the internet and maybe the phone but HD cable TV.
4. Why are taxpayers paying for $35.00 for a car wash? Since the vehicle is being used fore personal activities using taxpayer gas is it unreasonable to think the Director might at least wash off the dirt from personal use.
5. Why is taxpayer money being given to this department then being given to charitable organizations as donations?
6. Why are taxpayers being charged over $170.00 a month to feed Economic Development Board members a meal? I know they meet at meal time but couldn't these, mostly well heeled folks meet a little earlier or later and buy their own food or bring a sack lunch?
These are but a few expenses being paid by taxpayers without any real scrutiny by Commissioners or the County Executive. There has been much complaining in private but the only official complaint I recall was met by the County Executive with, "what can we do, we don't control the money given to the Development Board that's their responsibility". To this I replied and repeat, "you are being totally irresponsible, giving money to anyone without any oversight, accountability or even a monthly report of how the money is being spent, and besides you don't have to give as much unless they respond more appreciatively to request for accountability".
1. Why have taxpayers paid more than $900.00 a month for health insurance to an insurance agency owned by the Economic Development Director's wife. Isn't that a conflict of interest? Was this insurance bid out or just assigned? Why were check numbers 4413 and 4414 issued to the same person, the same day, for the same thing in the same amount $874.31?
2. Just how many phones does the Economic Director have or need? There are checks for $17.87 for a phone, $17.87 for a dedicated fax line, $44.45 for a different phone and varying monthly charges, between $149.10 to $151.77, for a cell phone?
3. Why are taxpayers paying for a phone, internet and cable TV, the Bronze tier and HD, for the director at a monthly cost of over $130.00? I can understand the internet and maybe the phone but HD cable TV.
4. Why are taxpayers paying for $35.00 for a car wash? Since the vehicle is being used fore personal activities using taxpayer gas is it unreasonable to think the Director might at least wash off the dirt from personal use.
5. Why is taxpayer money being given to this department then being given to charitable organizations as donations?
6. Why are taxpayers being charged over $170.00 a month to feed Economic Development Board members a meal? I know they meet at meal time but couldn't these, mostly well heeled folks meet a little earlier or later and buy their own food or bring a sack lunch?
These are but a few expenses being paid by taxpayers without any real scrutiny by Commissioners or the County Executive. There has been much complaining in private but the only official complaint I recall was met by the County Executive with, "what can we do, we don't control the money given to the Development Board that's their responsibility". To this I replied and repeat, "you are being totally irresponsible, giving money to anyone without any oversight, accountability or even a monthly report of how the money is being spent, and besides you don't have to give as much unless they respond more appreciatively to request for accountability".
posted by Allen Barrett | 11:50 AM
213 Comments:
No. 6
Are not most of the members of the Economic Development Board either people who own their own business or retired from same? These people could very easily meet at another time or take a bag lunch if they must to eat. The money paid for someone to cater a meal could feed a lot of hungry families with children in Giles county. Shame on the Economic Development people.
Something that keeps bugging the heck out of me is why the hell Barrett keeps coming up with this information instead of my commissioners? This should be the job of my commissioners but there have been things I asked a couple of them about that I read on here and they denied even knowing about it. I asked if what Barrett had said was true and one commissioner told me what a troublemaker Barrett was but when I pressed him about if what he had said was true he said, "probably". So I asked where does Barrett get so much information and he could get the same stuff. He just said I don't know.
I just don't get it that a private citizen can get more information and put it on this blog than the commissioners and the radio and newspaper combined don't seem to know nothing. Maybe the wrong people are commissioners after all.
1:47
It's called vindictiveness and jealousy.
How is providing the facts to taxpaying citizens being vindictive and jealous? I for one appreciate the hard work Mr. Barrett puts towards making things right here in Giles County. I also agree that he provides much more information than our local news and commissioners.
I agree 2:37. he is a big help for the people.
1:47 It's because Mr Barrett does his homework. This information is available to the general public but you have to dig for it. They are not just going to pronounce it for the community to hear. The paper and the radio station are just public relation arms of the County Mayor's office. When the Pulaski Citizen is not chasing ambulances they are printing what Vanzant wants them to print.
2:11 How can you read vindictiveness or jealousy in providing information to the public and to commissioners that they all want to know about?
Most citizens are too embarrassed about asking for information which is not willingly provided by those in elected office and the commissioners dont want to be seen as a trouble maker by asking questions at all even though its their job to do it. They would rather let a member of the public do their dirty work so he can be labeled instead of themselves. Anyone would think they are scared of Vanzant, Speer, or Ford. Sure comes over that way. For sure many commissioners read this blog so now lets hope they wake up and acknowledge where tax payer money is being wasted and plan accordingly. Mr. Barrett has provided information where the commissioners need to start raising questions and doing some cuts. Thanks Mr. Barrett.
I get so tired of everybody blaming the commissioners for everything that happens. This is the first that I have known about this and I agree totally with Mr. Barrett. First of all we do not have to even fund EDC, I just found out from the state so you can rest asured there are going to be some drastic changes in his office. I will personally vote against any thing that Campbell, Flacy, or Vanzant wants to do with his office. Jackson will probably want to keep it to because his sons have a job because of Dan Speer. Let him pay his own insurance, I have to pay for mine and I am a commissioner. I do not get any freebies so now maybe I could suggest they pay my telephone bill and get my car washed and get a free meal sometime. This makes me furious as I am new on the commission.
5:03 Glad to hear you plan to vote to get change in county government. New blood is what has been needed on our county commission for a long time. We have some who have been commissioners for 30 years and should be booted off. Keep up the good work. The public is behind you.
Anyone who has questions regarding why neither the newspaper or the radio (all wet-noise anyway ) dont do any investigation regarding the EDC .......take one guess who from them both sits on the EDC board and eats a free lunch just for showing up .
It would only take a simple letter from either one referencing the correct TCA to the County and City to get the PUBLIC information published on this blog . Maybe they cant read TCA's? or know where to find them ?
Igo Freely
5:03...the public applauds that you want to help bring the change we need in this town. If only there were more on the board like you, not in the pockets of the corrupt ones. On another note, did anyone expect anything different out of Dan Speer? The man created the job for himself so he could still keep the town a retirement community.
5:03, new to the commission ? You have been there at least 2 years. Where has your head been ?
Friday, 1:47 p.m.
I would be interested to know what your opinion is of your commissioners after you ask them questions and they 'don't know' the answers but what Mr Barrett posts is 'probably correct'. Are you beginning to lose faith in them as have I? Thanks.
You forgot to mention about his dues being paid at the Country Club and the fees that are paid for by EDC for the songwriters event @ Martin College!!!
Who's dues are paid at the country club? Do you mean with tax money??
No wonder the county has money missing. Oh I forgot campbell said none was missing.
If not missing, somebody over spent and it sounds like they don't know who.
Dan Speer's Pulaski county club dues are paid from tax payer money. The fees are over $1,000 per year.
Remember Campbell thought it better for the commissioners to have to attend the EDC meetings as opposed to having Speer present economic updates to the commissioners, when one of the commissioners was questioning the lack of updates from Speer.
8:06 Why would the commissioners approve this? What kind of people have we elected?
I guess they think someone might come play Goff with Danny boy and decide to move a factor here.
If they would not give the O.K. for a long friend of the community like Frito Lay the go ahead to expand their operations here and hire more employees do you really think they are trying to get those type of jobs here in the community? Walmart was denied when they wanted to build a distribution center in Industrial Park south. How many jobs would that have been? It seems only certain industries are allowed in and they are not good wage and benefit jobs.
Plain and very simple. Dan Speer does not want a strong employer to move here that might have more influance over the local economy than him.
I see Tommy Campbell remains undfer the gun. Shame, shame, shame.
He should be 8:23. Why would a commissioner not want regular updates on the activity of a man that is paid close to $100,000 dollars annually of tax payer money to develop the economy in Giles County? And why are you enabling the attitude of wastefully spending tax payer money.
Does any one know if any tax, electric, or any other rebates or credits were given to the developer of the sports bar and two distilleries?
10:06 Tax breaks, etc will be given. I'm not holding my breath though to see if this project will or will not happen in Giles county. Speer did this same thing a couple of years back by announcing an industry coming in that did not happen but he seems to do it when its budget time for the county. Maybe its foil to keep the funding to his job.
8:23 Shame shame on you saying you was quitting the blog.
You and me didn't see 8:15's post the same. I thought it was a good thing that campbell wanted the commissioners EDC meeting instead of speer telling them about it.
Who denied Walmart or Frito Lay? I have not heard anything about those.
4:12 EDC and Industrial development. Walmart distribution was straight out denied, Frito lay wanted the expansion that is happening at the facility in Lincoln County to happen at the Pulaski plant but it was denied by the IDC and EDC.
3:00 In regards to Campbell wanting the commissioners to attend the EDC meetings, how many has he attended? But more importantly why would you not want regular updates by your highly compensated employee so that the commissioners who can not attend can be brought up to speed and answer any questions commissioners may have? I just do not agree that Campbell's statement was for the betterment of the community.
I want some factual information about Wal-Mart and Frito-Lay. I don't believe the gossip 10:22. You are going to have to provide some proof that those companies were denied. Can you do that?
Adding to the post made by 10:22 PM.
What Campbell may have suggested about commissioners attending the EDC meetings doesn't amount to a hill of beans as approximately 2 years ago the commissioners voted for Speer to make quarterly reports to the full board of commissioners. Why is that not happening. Ms Vanzant is a member of the EDC and Chr of the commissioners. She needs to do her job. Its what she is paid $70,000 for.
Then you gotta think about the free lunch provided for attendees of the EDC board. Will the tax payers want to be feeding more freeloaders? Don't think so.
Then go pull the minutes from the Industrial Board meeting with Frito Lay before you start calling it gossip. The meeting was approximately 1 month before the announcement on WKSR that Frito Lay would be expanding in Lincoln County.
9:13 Could we be sure Minutes from that meeting exist? I would like to read them. Thanks.
3:50 Go read them, then let us know.
I thought minutes were taken all all meetings. I would like to know what commissioners voted against it.
4:00
You need minutes of the Industrial Development Board and Economic Development meetings. The commissioners will not know about things like this unless they are at the meetings. Actually a recording of all meetings should be provided for commissioners use. But that will never happen.
So do we have some people gossiping and lying around here? Sounds to me like we do. So how do we know for a fact that Dan Speer had anything to do with Wal-mart and Frito-Lay? I smell bullcrap.
and it seems to be coming from you 6:37
It seems to be coming from the people that make these accusations but never have any proof to back it up. I just want to see the proof. I know Dan Speer and I don't think he would do any of these things of which he is accused.
This is a little off thread but relates to iDB an ECD, as well as County business- but does anyone know why there are tons of gravel at the proposed wastewater site in Frankewing? If there is still a question about the price of the land, why would investing time an money make sense before acquisition of the land---well ether be so deep into it there won't be a choice as to the amount paid for the land, or if it falls through- that money is wasted.
Maybe it's being stored ion site by TDOT-?
9:00 PM You hit it on the nail - too much done to the property we'll have to buy it whatever the price. But then its your local county leader's way of doing things to get what she wants.
8:37
I know Dan Speer very well and I know that he is not above any thing. I have had to deal with him and I left with a very low opinion of him. In fact it is my opinion he is corrupt because of conversations we have had. But since you think Speer to be so honorable, which is a laugh, why do you think the EDC is making payments to his wife's company?
9:13, you know you won't get an answer to that question. You'll get a "where's your proof" or a "call him and find out", but no answer. That ain't how 8:37 rolls.
8:37 doesn't know Dan Speer or he is one of his puppets. He will do anything to get his way & make himself look good.
8:37 How about reading the thread above and give your conclusion on Dan Speer and the donation to Martin Methodist's songwriters show.
What happened to 8:37? I guess he/she saw the program from the songwriter's night.
Dan Speer will never let any major industry come into Pulaski because the people major industries bring with them are capable of seeing through all the bull****and corruption that goes on withing the city and county government. He just is not willing to take a chance on someone coming into "HIS" town and stirring up alot of questions and demanding government officials to be accountable for their actions. You must think like a corrupt official in order to figure them out and I have. Dan Speer is going to keep Pulaski from growing, expanding and becoming prosperous because if it grows it then becomes more than he can control, therefore he can take a chance on loosing all that he gains from us poor sap sucking tax payers.
to 233AM
how right you are!! Frito-Lay tried very hard to buy the old AVEX building in order to expand the production at the Pulaski plant to include the manufacturing of several of their products but Dan Speer refused to work with them so they expanded their plant somewhere else. And he calls himself the Economic Development Director, its more like the Economic Undevelopment Director.and by the way, i do understand that event was for a good cause but what reason could Dan Speer possibly have that would justify a donation from the Economic Development Office. Is he just so confident in doing whatever he wants with our money, that he throws it around anyway he wants and never has to worry about questions or being accountable.
There has been many more industries other than Frito Lay, some of them were major corporations who wanted to make Pulaski their home but unfortunately they were met with resistance from the city of pulaski and decided to go elsewhere.
I never could understand how Dan-the-man kept getting re-elected. No one you spoke to had anything good to say about him, yet he always seemed to get the votes. Kind of strange, that.
Had E. Nuff
Questions have been raised before about the local elections and after hearing so much I am beginning to have my doubts, too.
Look no farther than voting students at MMC.... Loop hole, don't live here acept for college and have voting rights.
How is a person that is a resident for the required period of time a loop hole? If they live here why should they not be able to vote when they are effected just like every one else. And you do know the Martin students can vote for any candidate. Seems like some one does not want perceived outsiders to have a say in local politics.
Of course not!! The County power team does not want anyone "not from here" to have any say in anything they are doing.
Guess what! None of us are "from here" acording to the Indians who where here.
I agree with 3:22 AM If they meet the voting residency requirements, so be it.
But I have heard about deceased people being counted in the local elections, and have heard the number going into the building to cast their vote has been waaaaay less than the number that showed up on the count when the voting was over.
8:07 You got to be kidding? If that is so I may be understanding why so many bad things has happen in Giles County, the devil has taken over.
Next election people need to be pole watchers.
I have worked in elections years ago and there is no way that could have happened then.
I think the devil is trying to take over. Just a different view.
8:53 Afraid it did and that was even with a poll watcher. Thats where the count of people going to the building to vote came from. It was brought out but zero done about it - as usual.
Want to know about election violations just look at what happened the Barrett in the last commission election.
800+ new jobs! Thank you Dan.
Enough said.
Exactly! Barrett can enjoy a nice big crow sandwich. He chose the absolute wrong time to try one of his attacks. Nobody has to kick Barretts ass because it is so easy to make him look like a stupid lying crybaby.
7:18 Wow, Dan did not block a factory's growth and now I guess you applaud his use of public funds to promote himself. Why was Frito Lay not given the same benefit as Magnetti? Maybe because the Governor was not involved and Frito Lay's expansion is still taking place in Tennessee. Just not in Giles County. I think we need to thank Magnetti and the Governor for the jobs.
Great job Dan Speer! I hope you are getting a big laugh out of the morons like Barrett and his pals. However, I would bet that you don't pay any attention to the crying around here like 8:24 loves to do. What a loser!
2:29
Is it not true that Barrett lost in a landslide for the second time? I beleieve those facts are indisputable. As for election violations, don't you find it odd that not one but two courts ruled in favor of the election workers and against him? Did you forget that minor little fact?
9:00
So you support Dan's using taxpayer money for his own personal benefit? You must be related to him or receiving a BENEFIT by having him in that position.
New jobs coming to Giles county is great. However, that has zero to do with the spending Dan Speer does with tax payer monies. These expenses should still be looked into by the commissioners. No good suggesting the ED board do anything as they won't. It will be up to the public to push their commissioners to reduce the amount given to EDC each year.
I agree 7:44. I've also seen Dan the man use the tax payers vehicle he has been issued to ride his dogs around. I've seen Dan more than once pull up at the recreation center with his dogs in the back of his government vehicle, open up the back and let his dogs out to run around at the amphitheater. I guess he does not see the no dogs sign posted at the park. But what are rules to some one like Dan the man?
Toyota wanted to come to Pulaski but they were denied because they start their employees out at $21.00 an hour. Dan Speer said the only way they could build their plant in Pulaski is if they changed their company policy to start employees out at $9 to $10 an hour because as Dan put it, "the people in Giles County don't know what to do with that much money". That is exactly what he told Home Depot, but the only difference is Home Depot agreed to pay their people less but Toyota refused to budge and ended up building just inside of Huntsville. If you ever wish to see the plant I am talking about, just take a ride down Pulaski Pike and follow it all the way into Huntsville, it will be on your left, you cant miss it. When you see it it will make you sick at your stomach.
Magnetti was smart enough to avoid Pulaski/Giles County EDC and instead, went directly through the governors office to avoid being derailed by our local officials. Dan Speer found out about Magnetti coming to Pulaski the same time everyone else did, when it was told on the local news. Thats why they made it here and all the other's did not. They learned from the other companies mistakes which were dealing with Dan Speer and the EDC.
So there is Toyota, Frito-Lay, Walmart Distribution Center and even more unknown industries and corporations that have been denied by the EDC from bring there businesses to Pulaski, yet hugh buildings are built and left empty along with other buildings that have been vacated and people still think Dan Speer is doing all he can for Pulaski. He needs to be investigated because all he seems to be doing is getting rich of us while we get poorer.
How do we go about replacing the Danald? Can he be voted out or do we just need to put a bag over his head and throw him in the trunk?
Had E. Nuff
That sounds like a murder threat to me. You can look forward to a visit from the police very soon 3:09.
Barrett being the dumbass that he is won't delete it either. I hope you both spend time in court and jail. Or should I say more time?
427 you need to lighten up alittle so youll know when a person is trying to be funny and when they are serious. To me, the only person who would have taken 309's comment so serious would have been the one and only Dan the Man. Otherwise the rest of know there is no way you can put a bag over Dan's head because it would only slip off his bald head.
Oh boy the police are coming? Maybe they will look into the black mail case too.
Oh come on, 4:27, I was gonna put some air holes in it. Besides, I prefer to look back upon it.
Had E. Nuff
The midnight ride of 4:27:
"The police are coming"
"The police are coming"
Go have a beer, take a valium and shut up, why don'tcha.
H.E. Nuff
I wish someone would take over wksr that would report all the news that goes on within our city government, especially items such as all the companies that have been turned away from coming to Pulaski. This would be a start in getting government officials to be more accountable to the people but in order for that to happen the people must know what is going on.
Barrett has the potential to be Pulaski's version of News 5,4,and 2 investigative reporter, but certain people in Pulaski wont let him do so without crucifying him and exploiting his personal and private life. If you notice, Phil Williams with channel 5 gets alot of bad officials exposed and removed because he has support from others and nobody is publicly attacking him about his personal life.
Rumor has it that the television stations will be down here in the enar future to do a follow-up story.
12:34
You might also watch the newspaper for a biggie within a couple of weeks. I hear some people are going to be shocked.
Dan Speer didn't have a thing to do with the 800 or so jobs coming, Magnetti's people did that and Dan only heard about it probably a few days before we did but you better believe he's gonna take credit for it. Don't believe it, and also the Abernathy Road Whiskey Distellery, well Dan found out about that after they had already gotten the permit. But as you saw in the paper him and Jack Norwood (Woodard} was standing tall in front of the cameras. I'd be ashamed if I were Mr. Norwood {Woodard}, he claims to be a big church going person and there he was all proud to be a part of a whiskey producing outfit.
10:16
Aren't you judging Mr. Norwood? I thought you folks frowned upon that.
Which paper was that found in? I looked at this week and didn't find it.
Was it Woodard or Norwood?
I didn't know we had a Norwood commissioner.
Dang, Abernathy Rd Dist. isn't built yet and already being hammered! Relentless !!!!
Some commissioners are smart enough to support something that will be good for everyone. Just because Woodard supports growth and people getting jobs doesn't mean he isn't a Christian. I swear I think some of you idiots would bitch if someone gave you a million dollars. If you will say who you are 10:16 I will be glad to meet up and talk about it. Maybe I can make it make sense for you?
All I know about Woodard is he sure can play that guitar and sang.
If he supports jobs for Giles County, why can't we give him Speers job?
Looks like there has been some more post about I know something you don't know. 12:34 and 8:02
Playing children's games.
Be patient. It's coming soon.
The end is near. Woe be to those who heed not the word of cg. Be berry qwiet, I'm hunting wabbits.
H.E. Nuff
6:56
Sorry, but I DO know what I'm talking about. Will you accept the truth when it becomes undeniable, or will it remain deniable regardless? We shall see.
Watch it cg you will tell who you are. Not everybody knows what is going on at the courthouse.
cg, knowing what kind of liar you proved to be by saying you were done and then posting the very same day, i doubt seriously if i'll believe ANYTHING you have to say. You've cried wolf one time too many. Nothing but a lying enabler of wrong doing. Christian gentleman my ass. Contridiction gentleman is more like it.
H.E. Nuff
Just be patient.
The idea of the local media performing ANY investigation (which requires digging, asking hard questions, in short WORK) is downright LAUGHABLE. They would much rather let Nashville/Huntsville media do the dirty work and not hold local government officials feet to the fire. Giles County government has long been allowed to operate under a cloak of secrecy, which is why you have the mess(es) we are in today. Isn't it interesting that the timeline of Giles County's decline pretty closely parallels Speer's tenure in office? None of this happened overnight. There are people posting here who have his number and pegged to a T. If he's doing nothing wrong, then he should have no problem submitting to further scrutiny. Oh, and the Frito-Lay, Walmart Distribution Center and Toyota debacle have been common knowledge for quite some time, or so I thought.
253 it is very refreshing to hear from someone like you. Everything you said was exactly right, factual, and truthful. Keep on blogging cause you have got my support and attention.
2:53
There's nothing to investigate. The work is done and just needs to be reported for all to see. Stay tumned.
10:01
Do you really believe they will tell us?
10:52
Yes, it's coming out. It's not my place to tell it, so my lips are sealed. I'm not going to spoil this party.
If it's not your place to tell it, why are telling it? Does it help your self-esteem to believe that you know something the rest of the posters don't. I seriously doubt, considering your history on this blog, that anyone trusted you with an important "secret" to keep quiet about until the time was right. and even if someone was so inclined to share with you, look how you've already let them down! hinting at some big news story, scandal, budget crisis, or any other exposure is no different than telling it. You hsve basically tipped your hand to your identity for those who had not figured it out. By the way, as any decent attorney would point out to you, pay close attention for the rest of the post. There is a vast difference between a public official and a private citizen. Public personalities have presumably chosen the scrutiny and have thus surrendered a huge amt of their rights concerning defamation and libel/slander lawsuits. Spreading gossip and private info about a private citizen is a very different situation. The burder of proof rests with the one who engaged in the gossip, and it the citizen whose rights were violated had the expection of privacy, he ends up generally well compensated for his "damages." Also please remember gossip does not have to be false, to be gossip. Don't say something stupid about your obsession object unless you are prepared to pay a steep price. Not only your identity will be revealed but many more personal things about your life will come out in court. Take this advice for what it cost you. It's up to you.
Advice Guru
Why haven't you heard WAB took the missing money and bought an airplane.
Has anyone seen him flying around?
Seems like someone likes to blame WAB with everything wrong in Giles County so thought I would make
A stupid statement.
Advice
Thanks for the advice, but I never said one word about a private or elected official. Did I name anyone in particular? No. I will not divulge anything, so your point is moot. Again, it's not my place to do so.
Advice
For all you know, I could be talking about the rumor that Giles County is turning into green cheese. Ok?
Why are you so defensive?
Why has Country Kitchen closed?
6:54 Why are you privileged to know what is going on in Giles County?
Must be because of your job.
Maybe Legends in planning on turning it into a Roadhouse like Logan's? Watch and be amazed.
90:07
You are totally delusional.
With the exception of hands that shed innocent blood, I believe our troublemaking crew is fitly described in Proverbs, chapter 6.
Country Kitchen seems to be closed.
County Kitchen has been up for sale for about 3 years. Didn't ya'll see the little realtor sign? Heard Legends plans to turn it into a sports bar which would put it close to the new one supposedly coming in next to the supposed Hampton Inn.
has anybody heard city administrator Terry Harrison was resigning and Dan Speer has been chosen to fill in for him until someone can be appointed for his position.
Reportedly, Legends is moving to Country Kitchen location and will re-open in September following extensive renovations. Meanwhile, the existing Legends location may be turned into a pizzeria under the same ownership.
If the assertion about Harrison and Speer is true, something needs to be done! This is ridiculous!
Why would Harrison resign from his cushy job with such a high salarly?
5:29 Why is it any of your business?
Cos tax payer money is involved, dumbass.
529.....easy....so he can go from one cushy job to another cushy job. Dan could go back to running the city, Terry could do what he wanted on the pES side and
Have more votes an power to do as they please.
Although even though I'm no fan-I'd hate to say ether one is cushy---just a cushy paycheck but so be it....
Also that's all presuming that the earlier post Is true...but wouldn't that be convenient. Again.
What happened to Harrison's raise? Was it denied?
It's still none of yur business or mine WHY he left the job...if that's what he did. He doesn't need your permission.
Careful with the descriptive terms,7:54. That dumbass that resides on here will accuse you of being me.
Ray Lanier
Are you saying that you are going to accuse yourself of being you Ray? That is some pretty deep stuff right there. We might have to break out a continuum and discuss the degree of philisophical differences on that one.
I see ole CG is back with it's crap. What a liar. What did it stay off the blog for five minutes and call it forever?
Are you mentally retarded 7:09? It would be hard for you to prove you aren't.
Hi Ray
This is 7:54. Sorry I borrowed your descriptive term but I like it. Carry on.
looks like 7:20 sure got her panties in a wad.
7:09 told the truth.
11:35
Have you ever changed your mind about something? Does that make you a liar when you do?
8:14 Your post wasn't to me but had me wondering, then I read the above post, so you changed your about posting, right? I thought you would change your mine about it.
I'm not to sure if it don't make them a liar, guess can just call it a broken promise. You feel safe in people not knowing who you are. Don't feel to safe any of us that don't want people knowing who we are.
It can be done and if they don't tell they want get in trouble. So if anyone looks at me funny I'm going to think they know my post.
Changing one's mind does not make him a liar.
7:54/7:37, use it in good health. Sometimes that's the only way to crystallize one's thoughts eloquently.
6:07, the only degree of philosophical ( you mis-spelled that, by the way, genius) differences is that you are a dumbass and I am the one who labeled you as such. Discussion complete. See how easy that was? I'm not even going to charge you for the lesson, just pay attention so I don't have to keep repeating myself. Also, although it sounds really cool, I'm not sure "continuum" was the word you were reaching for in this particular context. It's ok if you try again, I won't mark you down for it. Hugs and kisses, babe.
Ray Lanier
CG You use changing your mind as a way to justify your lies. if you state you are going to do something for a certain reason and turn around five minutes later and break your word then you are just a liar that changed their mind.
What makes him a liar is the fact that he never intended to stop posting in the first place. That was just another mind game he is so fond of playing, so yeah, he knowingly lies, with malice and forethought. He also stated when he came back that he had a whole new perspective on things, that he also wanted answers. Turns out it's the same old rhetoric he always spouted. That's the worst kind of liar, a sneaky, conniving one. Way to go, cg. You give Christians everywhere a good name
Had
No, I changed my mind, and that's it.
I do have a new perspective about some of the people running our government. And if the individuals I believe to be guilty of wrongdoings are in fact guilty, they need to be arrested and sent to jail.
I can't speak for other Christian people, but I see some outrageous hypocrisy in a couple on here who claim to be Christian as well. Why is it that you have no problem with their hypocrisy?
I saw some outrageous hypocrisy also 10:23. There was actually a post on here from someone who professes to be a Christian and not an enabler who had the gall and self-righteousness to tell someone else they needed to repent. Don't you agree that unless one's on character and behavior is PERFECT, that they have no right to tell someone else to repent. Isn't that a privelege that belongs only to GOD. In fact I believe the BIBLE speaks directly to that with the example of the "beam in thy own eye." That's a textbook example of a hypocrit isn't it 10;23? Oh pardon me, that was you that told someone else they needed to repent completely ignoring your "beam-filled" eyes. Guess you do think it's okay for you to be judgemental. Anyone want to take a guess how long it takes the enabler to come back with a justification of his behavior while condeming the same behavior in others?
11:47
I profess to be a Christian because I am and because of the lie your idol, allen barrett, told on me. And isn't he also claiming to be a Christian? Such hypocrisy (my opinion)!
The real liar is one who willfully tells a lie and refuses to repent. That's not the same thing as changing one's mind. And, as I told you on a previous thread, it's because of people like you that I decided to come back. I think that's what you wanted.
Consider this and try to understand. My coming back is somewhat like a professional athlete who decides to come out of retirement to play again. Is he or she lying because they came out of retirement? Of course not.
You criticize my sincerity and the fact that I, like everyone else, am a sinful person. We all are. I never claimed perfection and often have to remove the beam in my own eye before I can see the splinter in someone else's eye. I repent quite often, because I am a falible human being who needs God's grace every day of my life. But the heighth of arrogance and hypocrisy is the one who will not humble himself and say sorry.
Speaking of Bible, please go read Proverbs 6, and think about one you know who exhibits most of those things God hates. Be honest with yourself as you read them.
I read Proverbs 6 and it described you perfectly cg.
You claim Allen Barrett told a lie on you by calling you an enabler. Well based on the evidence he gave and your writings on this blog you are indeed an enabler of wrongdoing.
Now one more thing that identifies you very clearly, since our repentance is made to God how is it that you know Mr Barrett hasn't repented of his sins whatever they may be or is it that he hasn't repented to you that you find so sinful. My friend I would be very careful putting myself in the place of God and declaring who has repented and who has not.
4:58
You miss the point completely. Please tell me you are not that stupid. You know very well who those passages describe so very well.
Yes, barrett did tell a lie on me that I enable wrong, and you choose to defend him in being a l;iar even when I have said on here numerous times that guilty parties should be prosecuted regardless of who they are in county government. How on earth can you argue that his lie has any validity in view of what I just said. The fact is that you can't without looking less than bright.
As for repentence, I do believe he should repent, but that's just my opinion. And, if you had read my above post you would understand that I, like everyone else, am a sinner who needs God's grace every day of my life. Oh, I'm sure you just forgot about that. Right? Otherwise, you wouldn't have said what you did about my putting myself in the place of Almighty God. I'm sure it was just an oversight on your part.
A very constructive blog. Thank you all. All of these comments certainly made a positive change in the lives of Giles Countians today.
I think I can safely say we should expect more of these benefits tomorrow. In fact, I am sure of it.
Thank you all and keep up the good work. I am confident you are all proud of these accomplishments.
I can see see CG is still lying and whining. I might have to bring the moniker back. CG you quit telling that lie on Barrett. Yes that's right you lied on Barrett when you stated he lied about you. So as long as you continue with your lies and bitching the moniker is back.
Sincerely,
CG still whining & lying
mal
Well, I see you are still here blindly defending the lie allen abrrett told that I willfully go along with things I know to be wrong. What is it about the statements I've made that guilty people should be prosecuted regardless of what postions they hold here in local government? Can you explain that? Don't you think barrett should apologize for the lie now?
Stop promoting a lie and grow up.
mal
I meant to say what is it about those statements that you fail to understand? It really makes you look rather dull.
CG I got the very same feeling about your post that 4:58 apparently got.
Since, in reality, you have no idea about the repentance of Mr Barrett or anyone else, but yourself, your insistence that he or anyone else need to repent puts you in the place of God. My Bible teaches that it is blasphemy to put yourself in the place of God. It also teaches that we must judge the behavior of man but not the heart of man.
Either you are being very foolish, ignorant or just dismissive of God to take such a position as you have stated. As the previous writer stated you would do well to be concerned with your spiritual life more than of someone else.
11:38
Repentence means a turning away from past behaviors. Do you think he has changed? I don't.
Blasphemy is sin against the Holy Spirit. There's speculation as to what that may be. I happen to think it is simply the sin of unbelief. It is astounding that, in reading my post, you missed the part where I stated that we are all sinful people who need God's saving grace each and every day.
Finally, I am very much concerned with my spiritual life. Doesn't your Bible teach that Christians should be just as concerned for their fellow man? Mine does.
Well, you certainly seemed to be concerned with Barrett, although I don't think the bible meant it in quite that way. I guess in your mind that counts as a good deed though, eh?
8:00
then why are none of your posts representative of your last paragraph? Maybe you can not hear yourself upon that soapbox you stand. All we see from you are statements that you should heed instead of trying to preach. You lie and when you are caught and your back is against the wall you try to say you did not state something. How is any one supposed to take a self righteous blow hard liar like you with any seriousness?
But back to the subject of the post. Something really needs to be done about the EDC and the use of taxpayer money for personal benefit. Where else has Speer personally benefited while in that position?
Sincerely,
CG still whining & lying
10:27
I have no idea what you are talking about. Seems the languahe of Ashdod.
mal
Well, here you are again fuming and spewing. Who is the "we" you mentioned?
If you don't take what I say seriously, then why are you constantly on my back? Could you explain that?
I would agree with you that something must be done with EDC. What about that?
Go look in your mirror and behold the true liar and whiner? Peace.
We are every one whom reads your lies and self righteous spewing of ridiculous statements. Since I see a ton of people posting against your asinine statements that are never backed by fact you should have easily figured that out.
When you stop your nonsense I will get off "your back" as you state. But I and others know you for the liar you are. Every one on here knows you for the liar you are. You proved to every one you are a liar when you stated you would not post on here any more and then 5 minutes later you were right back posting your crap that is helping to enable what is wrong in this county. And then you tried to claim it was not you.
As far as your statement, "I would agree with you that something must be done with EDC", are you going to turn around and change your mind 5 minutes from now and scream nothing needs to be done.
Wasn't that your little cop out when caught in lies that you simply changed your mind? You have established yourself as a liar and that is the label you will carry. Okay.
Sincerely,
CG still whining & lying
Reading this blog makes me think of a person I know that thinks they do no wrong. They will pray for forgiveness at home where no one knows, but the sin they committed was in front of others and I thought that was suppose to be confessed in front of others. Also ask for forgiveness from the one sinned against.
I just thought of this person, I know they aren't posting on here because they don't know how to turn on a computer. Just made me think of them.
Well that was a confusing post, 2:40. Seems you are now using the "languahe of Ashdod."
mal
A ton of people? Are you serious?
I have no nonsense to stop. You just can't stand it because someone has the audactity to call you guys' hand to what's going on here.
No, you are telling a lie right there when you said I denied posting on here after I said I was going to stop. And this has been explained to you over and over. I simply changed my mind. Again, was Brett Favre a liar because he changed his mind and came oput of retirement? Was he> Yes or no? Please answer that, mal.
Once again, go take a serious look in your mirror and you will see the real liar and whiner. Guess what? It's YOU!
Do you have anything you'd like to discuss?
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7:43 PM
Impossible. Deletions can only be done by the blog owner.
That is not true 3:22. Don't try to blame Barrett for what I did and you are obvious ignorant in doing.
Yes cg Bret Farve did lie about retiring. If you look at what he said it was that he would not be playing professional football anymore.
He also said he would not be on the football field in the coming year for the first time since high school.
Ok, you have said that something needs to be done at EDC, I challenge you to be more specific about what needs to be done and what you see as having been wrong at EDC. I also wonder if you would address the issue of Dan Speer's behavior at EDC and why there has been nothing reported on radio, TV, or newspaper that links Speer with anything done to get the new jobs here.
9:37
No, Favre changed his mind. Have yu ever heard of anyone doing that? Have you ever changed your mind about something?
Ok, since you want to call Favre a liar, let me pose another situation for you. Let's say there's a preacher who has for many years preached sermons that are pro-choice in nature. He wakes up one day and decides to start preaching against the murder of innocent children. Is he then a liar because he taught just the opposite previously? What say you.
Look, you just need to get past your bitterness toward me. if I said it was black, I honestly believe you would call it red just for the sake of argument or to impress the other one or two here.
As for Speer, I do not personally like him and think that he is perhaps using monies he shouldn't I am NOT accusing him of that, but there's a lot of talk that he does. If that be true, he needs to be dismissed and pay for any wrongs he might have done. Ok?
Excellent example for a simple minded person cg. If a preacher is preaching abortion, the pro choice movement is not pro choice but pro abortion, would he be preaching such a thing based on facts or personal beliefs? I personally would not stand with a preacher who can not support their preaching with Bible proofs. Do you, apparently so since you believe it's more right to sit silent surrounded by wrongdoing that involves friends, family or both instead of standing up and condemning the wrong behaviors.
1:53
Would you please stop lying? I have said repeatedly just recently that I do NOT condone wrongdoings, regardless of who is involved. That alone makes allen barrett a liar for saying that I do. It also makes you a liar for promoting that same falsehood.
To me, pro-choice people are the same as pro-abortion. I was just using the politically correct terminology so as not to confuse you.
Has Barrett accused you of being a liar lately?
I remember over a year or more ago he did. Just wondering if you was still holding a grudge or has he in the last few months.
I think by now everyone knows cg is a liar.
5:11
No, I'm not holding a grudge. I was just making the point that he lied about me being one who willfully goes long with wrongdoings. He owes me an apology for that, but I'll not hold my breath til I get it. I think he just has too much pride to admit that he lied and apologize.
No, he hasn't called me a liar in the last few days. In fact, he has been very quiet lately. I wonder why. He certainly seems to be laying low. Do I think he has changed his ways? No.
Apologies aren't required when the statements made were true. If you truly believe you were defamed, take him to court. Although your "I'm a Christian so I can't lie" defense would probably not hold up too well in that environment. You have been trying to make your point for over a year, sounds like a grudge to me. Or perhaps there is more to the root of your hatred of Barrett than you are letting on. What happened? Did he show you to be a fool and a liar in public as well as on this blog? Come on, you can tell the one or two of us on here the truth, we won't laugh for very long. No more than we laugh currently, anyway. Oh yeah, what happened to the fear you had for your family when B wanted to expose your identity? Did your sinful pride overcome your love for them? Talk about hypocrites.
1:01
Defend a liar if you will, but that's exactly what barrett did when he went off telling it that I willfully go along with wrongoings. Of course I am posting anonymously, and it should not matter what he has to say. Nevertheless, he shouldn't be allowed to get away with that.
You can't be serious about my taking barrett to court. An anonymous writer suing a man who told a lie about him would be laughed out of court. I'll leave the defamation lawsuits to someone whose character in this community has been sorely damaged.
The concern I have for my family was and remains real if barrett decides to "expose" me. But if he does, he had better be "exposing" every single one of you as well. What I actually fear is that this blog is going to cause some serious trouble one day. It's just a shame.
You speak of hatred. Well, who is it that has started all of the hatred and division here in the county? Why don't you look for that root?
I'll leave the root searching up to you, if it's all the same. I'm strictly AC. YOU probably would be laughed out of court if you sued B. An important part of a defamation suit is proof, of which you're sorely lacking. People with proof, however, have no trouble succeeding in such cases. It happens every day in courts all over the country. I can cite precedents, but it would probably be more convincing if you research for yourself. Put your issues aside and do your best to have a nice day now, ya hear?
10:14
Cite all the preceents you wish. I have no plans for suing anybody. Ok?
As I said, I will leave the defamation lawsuits to someone else.
4:06 Leave it to your buddy McAlister maybe, well according to those in the court office he didn't fair so well.
11:01
But he won, didn't he? If that be true, then who was innocent?
12:04 What did he win? I hadn't heard anything.
The McAlister in the paper and on WKSR sure hasn't won anything.
The big fat one is the one that sued the city and lost his butt.
4:27
Not so. Had he lost, guess who would be making a big issue of it on this blog?
The Tennessean had a piece with ole Dan about the new jobs but they gave all the credit for getting the new jobs to the state workers. $100,000.00 down the drain for Dan to live high on the pig. Well guess it's better that tax money benefit one person than everyone.
4:27
Since you know so much about this, can you divulge how much Mr. McAlister was awarded as a result of winning his lawsuit? It's all over town that he did prevail and that both the city and Barrett had to write checks. How much? Is it hearsay? I'd just like to know if it's true.
cg should be able to tell us. He/she always knows what is going on before anyone else.
The paper or radio station can't tell until it's told somewhere else.
I would of thought cg would have the tv station down here if Clay won.
3:46
I think you know the truth about this situation. Why don't you go ahead and tell it? I've been hearing it around town myself, and I feel confident that you have as well.
Well, have you?
10:43 No, I haven't heard it. I don't join in the gossip around town.
If there was a hearing it shouldn't be so secretive. So cg tell us what you heard.
I will say one thing if it's true I would advise everyone if you see anything happening or think something is don't call the police. I would be afraid to go check anything out if I was a policeman. You might get sued.
3:46
5:24
All I have heard is hearsay, so I'll not be repeating it here. But if the case is settled, why hasn't a word been mentioned about it on this blog? Can you answer that?
Again, what I have been hearing is strictly hearsay, so I won't repeat it. I'd just like to know the truth about it.
If it's true the judge must of sealed the file so if I was the one talking about it so I would began to get scared
9:09
But WHY would a juge seal the file? Wasn't a man's character and reputation in the community smeared?
Judge...typo.
Why hasn't it been told? Sounds like somebody just wanted to start something.
7:27
I thought this blog was all about truth, justice, and the American Way? So why would a judge seal the file? Why is there no discussion on this? Many would like to know.
12:56 I'm not the one said the judge might have sealed the file. I was told today that there had been things the judge sealed the file on, but I don't see how this would be one of the cases.
I don't understand why WKSR or the paper didn't tell it if McAlister won any money. I thought cg said the tv station would be here for that hearing. I haven't seen anything on tv have you?
So to me it sounds like someone is trying to stir up trouble.
I posted: Sunday, July 01, 2012 7:27:00 AM
3:56
No, the trouble was started and stirred up about this months ago. Inquiring minds just want to know if there was in fact a settlement. Why no discussion on this matter?
8:13 Why is it not on the radio or in the paper if a settlement was made?
Who is the culprit that is keeping it quiet? laughable.
If there was settlement cg knows.
I never heard it was coming up in court, did anyone else hear about it?
10:51
Why is it not being discussed? This is the question I keep asking. I thought this blog was all about exposing corruption and the sharing of newsworthy events and issues. Is that no longer the case? Inquiring minds want to know; I want to know. Ok?
Looks to me like it's being discussed. No one knows anything about it. I think if there was a settlement it should be told. What other discussing can we discuss about it?
If settlement was made it must of been made out of court. If settled out of court unless they didn't have to pay much I think they were crazy. I do believe McAlister only touched Vanzant's sign, but he stopped where both party's sign were and if Barrett's had been moved before why wouldn't he think he was going to throw his away again.
If a person puts his/her sign on your property without asking your permission are you not allowed to take it down? That question has nothing to do with McAlister/Vanzant/Barrett's signs. It happen to me one time and I didnot mean to mow around his sign, so I moved it.
I think it was discussed when the McAlister was arrested.
8:56
Good post. Do you think the wronged party in this case (whoever that may be) will be due a public apology?
8:40 What if it turned out to be Mr. McAlister that was proved wrong would you still feel that way?
Yes I think who ever is proven wrong is due an apology to the other person, BUT it can be between them. Not any of our business.
Then we'll never know if an apology was offered.
If the police department is proven wrong I'll never call them if I see a murder happening. If I was a policeman I would be afraid to arrest anyone, they might sue me.
One thing about it is someone is stilling signs and mine was beside it I would never stop. I would be afraid someone would see my stopped near it and they would believe I was the one stealing the other person's signs.
A very reliable source in the court house has stated that Mc Alister was paid just over a thousand by each party because it was cheaper than going to court. They also said Mc Alisters attorney threatened to quite if he didn't take it. Only winners as usual were the attorneys.
A very reliable source in the court house has stated that Mc Alister was paid just over a thousand by each party because it was cheaper than going to court. They also said Mc Alisters attorney threatened to quite if he didn't take it. Only winners as usual were the attorneys.
I'll check your "reliable source" out tomorrow. No sense in dancing around it.
If mr. McAlister was paid anything at all, does that not prove that he was in the right? If he is, who was in the wrong?
10:23
If Barrett had to pay Clay a thousand dollars, who was the winner? Is that hearsay?
Why did the county pay the lady that didn't get interviewed 70 thousand?
You can't have it both ways cg.
Ok for the county to pay rather than cost of lawsuit but not for Barrett and police department. I see it was cheaper than paying a lawyer but that just let old cg say clay was innocence. lol
10:48
Who was behind her "agging it on?" I think you know. And they would have fought it had they had this to do all over again.
I didn't know Mrs. White, but if I had I would of told her to sue don't let Mrs Vanzant get away with that.
Who agged the sign mess on until McAlister stopped at the signs to move Mrs. Vanzant's sign out front, if that's what happen.
1:57
1:57
Who made the sign caper an issue to begin with? I believe (my opinion) it was none other than allen barrett. Would you agree? Probably not. The reason Mr. McAlister stopped to move Mrs. Vanzant's sign is because someone (laughing here)deviously obstructed her sign with barrett's signs. Now who started it all? I believe we know.
If Mr. McAlister moved barrett's signs, then pray tell me why the matter was settled in his favor? Who had to pay? It wasn't Clay McAlister...if that is what happened.
The sign mess was started by WAB and the great cg that kept posting about it!!
Can you prove McAlister won?
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5:07 (5:09)(5:17)
I would agree with you that barrett started this whole mess. Granted, I kept posting about the matter, because I strongly felt that what was going on was wrong.
You asked if I could prove that Mr. McAlister won? No. Please read the last thing I said in my 2:29 post. Does it look like I said I could prove it? Look at the last five words of that post. Hint: The first of the five words is "IF".
You should have been a bastion of courage and journalism by posting your name and phone number? This was your time to shine, and you blew it. Be brave and post that information. You can still redeem yourself.
I'm sure Mr. McAlister would be interested in talking with you.
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10:20
So now you're into saying nasty things about my family? Why would you call me such a name? As I said, you have a nasty mouth that needs to be washed out with lye soap. Will this filth be deleted? I doubt it.
Thank God the people of Giles County have more sense than to elect people like you or your candidates to public office. I just hope we can get them to see the same thing when it comes to this charter.
Oh, did you see that three thousand dollar printing of the charter in the newspaper? I'm sure the taxpayer appreciated that about as much as they did the way they were talked into signing the petition. Most people would have signed it, given how it was presented. Oh, but that was just coincidental that these people at different locations asked voters the SAME thing. Right?
You ought to be ashamed. Even if you were illegitimate, I would have more class than to even suggest it or to trash your mother.
10:20
The more I thought about the nasty things you said, the madder I got. Then I realized that small-minded people like you delight in upsetting others. Needless to say, while I am trying my best to live my life as a Christian, I would never allow you to say those things to me in person. Oh no, not a chance. I don't know of anyone who would, regardless of who they are.
6:50 AM
What different locations? Only location I heard about was in the courthouse rotunda. Where else were people gathering signatures for the charter?
RAS
I never said it was outside the courthouse rotunda. Are there not four entrance doors to the courthouse? It was already discussed previously that this took place at the courthouse.
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