Financial Mess Continues To Grow!
As we continue to learn more about the problems that have been created, by the total break-down of responsibility, by government officials it becomes more and more clear that the problem is far more widespread and systemic than first imagined.
There must be an immediate independent and full audit of all the county's finances, not a partial audit by state auditors who have become far to personally involved to be neutral. In addition to calling for a complete independent audit I believe it is also appropriate and necessary to have a criminal investigation into the actions and accountability of those audit findings and personnel behaviors that caused these problems.
There must be an immediate independent and full audit of all the county's finances, not a partial audit by state auditors who have become far to personally involved to be neutral. In addition to calling for a complete independent audit I believe it is also appropriate and necessary to have a criminal investigation into the actions and accountability of those audit findings and personnel behaviors that caused these problems.
posted by Allen Barrett | 9:22 AM
215 Comments:
Fully agree with the topic statement. An independent audit is long overdue. We have to hope some commissioners will push to make this happen. OK, so it will cost money but it will cost us more for an independent audit not to be done and everything gets swept under the rug as is usual. The new finance director when hired needs to start off with a true knowledge of what money the county has and does not have and if we dont have money that is thought to be there, we need to find out where it has gone.
Too, we need to push our commissioners to insist that no one currently working in the finance office is named finance director to replace Ms Garner.
I so totally agree with everything you have said 10:03 especially the last paragraph.
Not only that but if they have conflicts of interest and lack the skills needed to do the job they need to be replaced.
Now is the time to stop all the games, axe the ones not pulling their weight and clean house if need be. There are some positions that need to be eliminated in county government.
I believe the Train Wreck is happening!! The sad thing is that the executive and commissioners have no guts and they will direct the train over right over the taxpayers!! Watch and see this as a good crisis to raise taxes! They will never cut spending!!!
5:58
Why don't you stop trying to stir up trouble for a change? Are you not aware of the financial crises that exist in several counties across the state? Oh, are all of those due to corruption and incompetence. NO! The costs of doing business has gone up tremendously, and something has got to be done. I do NOT advocate paying more in taxes, but when cuts are made and the cvounty is still in the hole, what would you have us to do?
As an example, do you realize that the highway departyment is not taking care of the roads like they used to do. Why is that? They have had to cut their budgets. Don't take my word for ity. Call Barry Hyatt, and he will tell you.
Come on 7:53 are you kidding. Ther highway dept has two million dollars more this year than last.
Every county in financial trouble is the result of corruption, incompentence or just plain greed.
753, really? Yes costs have gone up- but share who has cut really, Besides what the clerks always have to have cut--seems they are the only ones that ever do-- magically ones like the school "can't be"....guess it's cut now that there's 1.5 missing/overspent---but the problem is now te teachers an the students will suffer, not the office jobs. So now it's supposed to be a shock why everyone has asked about all these continuous line item suffle dances and "other" line items.
So let's count 1.5 (pending result)
661,000 out of hospital fund (which set aside by resolution)
Now an apparent oversight or misuse of insurance money deducted from checks--kinda has the smell if floating that money too, but hope not.
No, there's nothing that needs to be addressed here- just be a good taxpayer an shut up an let the government take care of all us children. RIGHT!
I can understand a need to raise taxes, if they were half trying to cut. Look how many people are working at the Director of School's office. Aren't they planning on making a job for someone else. If the cuts Loretta had asked for had stayed cut, I wouldn't have any problem with a wheel tax. But the executive and Commissioners aren't trying to cut. They are on a run away train and going to stay on it. All we can do is remember them at election time.
7:53 cuts really ROFL u r either stupid or one of the crooks!!!
9:41
Looks like you have been drinking too much of barrett's kool-aid. Such hatred and jealousy. Why would you want to be like that?
Oh please 1:17pm get off the kool-aid drinking bit. You just have your panties in a wad because your champions are being scrutinized and rightfully so. Such hatred and jealousy for WAB I see. Why would you not want to take off those blinders and see the truth. If you are one of those being questioned it is one thing but, if you think those who are wrapped up in this mess would stand up for you,you got another thing coming. So, stop making a fool of yourself and admit WAB has been right on this issue as have been many others and save yourself the embarrassment in the event your identity is revealed. But, then again I guess you can always leave town like our illustrious Director of Finance when you have to put your money where your "MOUTH" is.
1:17 looks like that kool-aid you keep talking about is the flavor of truth so no wonder you can't stand it. A little truth is rather bitter to you and your croonies
1:26,
Why don't you offer your name with your posts? Put your money where your mouth is and stop the gossiping. I am sure you are just like the rest of us and don't really know the full story yet. Until we all do, I would suggest you keep your opinions to yourself.
DAW
DAW I'm not the one you are talking to, but I think cg needs to take the advice you just gave as well as a lot of others. cg's caring on about kool-aid is silly. When cg posted his/her name I will post mine.
As for as not knowing the full story, I doubt the tax people will ever know the full story.
This story will be discussed on the Nashville news, Channel 4, tonight at 6PM.
Just saw Giles county on the news. I want to know why if Tee Jackson don't know what effect it will have on teachers why was he out this week handing out pink slips?
So Loretta said it was family sickness and stress why she resigned.
Her husband passed away around the time she took the job and her infant grandson is having some bad health problems. I imagine those things, along with the stress of having to deal with a weak group of commissioners is very stressful. I hope that everything works out well for her. I wouldn't take the job she had for any amount of pay. You can be the smartest person in the world but dealing with most of our commissioners, the CAVE people and the county executive will eventually break you down. She is educated and determined. I am sure she will do fine.
8:03 Beg to differ. Loretta's husband died about 3 years after she took the finance director job. Also, when would Loretta have to deal with these so called CAVE people? Weak but demanding commissioners and county executive, Yes. But with members of the public her contact was very seldom.
8:03 At lest you included the county executive. I feel for Loretta and hope the best for her, but think she shouldn't go down alone.
One think the people you call CAVE are here to stay and will be watching more than ever now.
8:30, her husband died not long at all after she took the job. I am family and know that for a fact. Your hate is this county is noted. Learn some manners.
wab
Don't you think there's another important story from Giles County that needs to be on Nashville news?
9:17 cg Why don't you call the TV stations and tell them then.
I knew why I saw the news tonight you would get your panties in a wad.
News like that is bound to be on TV, maybe yours will also so call them.
I won't be keeping my opinions to myself anymore than you will DAW. Secondly, you may be getting to know me well in the near future. Remember, you don't know who you are talking to on this blog as most are anonymous. I have had my eye on you for some time and expected that the day would come that you and I would have an exchange. I wouldn't want to ruin the surprise of who I am so, I will leave you wondering. Additionally, do not offer advise you are not willing to take yourself.
10:56
Sounds to me like you are threatening DAW. Shame on you. But isn't that the way you people roll? If anybody has the nerve to disagree with you guys, there's always a price to pay.
If you and DAW have an 'exchange" and someone gets hurt, I hope the first person hauled into court is none other than willian allen barrett. He knows these kinds of things exist and "enables" them by remaining silent...unless the remarks are directed at him.
It isn't a threat 5:49. Someone would also have a hard time keeping an eye on me. It is just a load of crap from someone that has a head full of it. I am not worried about an anonymous person so you shouldn't be either.
DAW
DAW
Ok, but just watch your back. I think some of these people are like loose cannons when it comes to someone disagreeing with them.
7:16 Instead of telling DAW or anyone else to watch their back you should have told them to watch their purse and wallet because they are about to be picked.
Watching Vanzant on TV made me wonder how many people caught the irony of her saying that "there was nothing illegal done and no money was missing we just don't know what happened to it". That really helped my confidence to drop.
To 5:49 if someone commits a criminal act how is that Barrett's or anyone else's fault but the one who commits the crime. That's like saying John Doe robbed the bank so we need to arrest Joe Jones because he deposited money in that bank. How dumb can a person get? People are responsible for their own actions.
I forgot to ask DAW since he is back making comments which by the way I'm glad, what are your thoughts about the hospital money being used without the commissioners knowing or allowing it?
7:37
Like I've sdaid several times, any guilty parties should be punished. That refutes the lie allen barrett told on me that I willfully go along with wrong. To continue telling and promoting that lie is very dishonest.
So the paper says that they'll has to wait an see what this does to staff layoffs---yet the pink slips are on the move?
Y'all leave DUH alone, he ain't hurting anyone.
Ray Lanier
10:55 Are you saying you are DAW?
I thought 7:37's post was for DAW.
Who let Ray out of the corner? I thought he was put there permanently for liking men and acting like a 5th grader.
6:50
It's trash talking like you just did that convinces me that this blog should be shut down immediately. Do you think barrett would have deleted your post had it been directed at him? Of course.
Stick to the subject. Yes, pink slips continue to be handed out.
Vanzant is responsible for the Fiancial Director's actions She needs to GO ALSO
8:35 Yes!!
6:50, you would have to have an IQ as low as yours to not be able to get out of a corner. Turn any direction and you're free. I learned that in the 5th grade from a man, dumbass.
Ray Lanier
Where will the meeting tomorrow be held?
County Annex(Basement of Suntrust Bldg)
Do they already have a replacement for Garner?
Will Garner be at the meeting tomorrow?
Will the TV station be at the meeting tomorrow?
Will CAVE be there with their camera rolling? Will any of them try to disrupt the meeting?
I am sure that Beth Moore will be interim if not permanent.
I sure hope some one is there with a camera rolling 6:40 so citizens, like myself, that have to work and can't be there can see the meeting. Should not the citizens be informed to what is going on? Or do you think the spotty news reporting and every arguing about what was really said and by whom at the meeting is more informative than the actual video of the meeting. I'm sure no one will cause a disruption. I only hope the ones that got us into this mess take it seriously instead of sweeping it under the rug. But wait, no money is missing we just do not know where it is.
Sincerely,
CG still whining & crying
mal
I'm sure they won't cause a disruption either. Deputies will be there to make certain.
Instead of your making catty remarks, why don't you and the rest of your gang wait and let the truth come out? But wait; that's how you guys operate.
As I have told you several times, go look in your mirror and you will see the real liar and whiner. Accept the truth when you see your fce.
I dont understand why the school system is laying off teachers with one hand and hiring ball coaches with the other. I guess that shows us where the school system management has its priorities. Why not cut all coaches stipends and get rid of all coaches that do not teach a full course load. Study hall does not constitute teaching.
7:32 I think you would do better to direct your comment to 6:40. Why are you so opposed to the citizens being informed to what is actually going on as opposed to hearsay? Sorry that you are so ignorant to think the very ones that let this mess spiral out of control resulting in an embarrassment to the community should be the saviors or even have the mental capacity to get to the bottom of this. What a laugh. And is it really wise to spend the money on the extra deputies just in the case a citizen may ask to address the committee? More wasteful spending. You and your pals hate the citizens are tired of writing blank checks to those who abuse their authority. But continue to go along with what is wrong and the fleecing of the citizens, or in other words enabling wrongful behavior.
Sincerely,
CG still lying & whining
6:40 I sure hope someone has cameras rolling and puts it on Utube, because I don't get Pulaski cable.
I doubt anyone will disrupt the meeting before finding out just what is going to happen. Wait and watch see if they are going to admit anything or cover it up.
Someone said Beth Moore will be interim. I don't know her or the other girl I've heard might get it. The question is are they CPA's?
God be with who ever takes Loretta Garner's place.
You want be attacked as long as you do right. I'm sure you will be watched like a hawk.
7:51 - Amen! The children will suffer the most.
The Fin Mgt committee doesnt know how much money is where but they are 'sure' there is none missing .
They are unwilling to pay for an independent audit but they paid TWO attorneys to sit in the meeting and hum this morning while committee members wrote a job description for a new fin mgt
director then quibbled about paying to put it in major local newspapers ..........but are NOT prepared to advertise
it on the Internet NOR accept applications by Internet . You have to hand carry your resume` to the courthouse in a horse-drawn shay and tie the horse up to the hitching rail while you go in ...
Applicants only have 9 working days from today to get their apps in ...
How 21st century is that ?
Does ANYONE now question why Taxpayer's NEED TO PASS the charter this coming August ??
Y B Smart
YB
This situation is being handled properly, and we do NOT need a charter. Can you imagine the hassles that would be had we had a so-called charter in place. Oh, I can just see a needed tax increase being voted in by people who already are paying as much as they can. No, Giles County DOES NOT need a charter. Let's work to see this thing defeated before it's out into play, and we can't do anything about it.
mal at 8:52
I posted both 6:40 and 7:32 and have no intention of having a discourse with myself.
Who said I was opposed to citizens knowing what's going on? I believe those are your mutterings.
You again call me an enabler. That is a lie allen barrett told, and I have proven him to be a liar simply by the fact that, as a Christian, I would never willfully go along with wrongdoings. Moreover, I have said at least three times that any guilty parties in this mess should be punished. That sorta shoots that lie in the head, doesn't it?
If you want to see the real liar and whiner, I must once again suggest that you go take a look in the mirror. It's you.
"So-called charter?" You're right, let's call it what it is: giving taxpayers a say in how their money is spent. That would certainly be a huge hassle. Why, the very idea! Everyone knows people are too stupid by far to realize what is best for them. By your own admission, NOT passing a charter will allow the government to levy additional taxes on people who already pay all they can. By all means, let's pay what we don't have and leave that decision up to someone else. I feel better already. Now, if I can only get someone to lay my clothes out for me...
Ray Lanier
Ray,
I respect you and try to go along with what you say, but you and I would just have to agree to disagree on this one.
I didn't admit to anything. But I do know that in these tough times, citizens are not going to vote for a tax increase. I wouldn't. So what would you suggest? Should the county hire some thugs to start robbing banks in other counties?
I saw a thing on tv the other night where one county in the state was having a similar problem with tax revenues. It was said that their cost on several services they provide have increased steadily over the years and some are as mucvh as 50% more than previously. Isn't that a bit like gas prices. We still have to pay for it if we want to drive.
Again, I respect you as a man who stands up to bullies, but I just can't see this as you do.
If the county had passed the wheel tax or a property tax increase last year all of this mess wouldn't be happening right now. The hospital money would still be there and everything would be in order.
The charter isn't going to stop the citizens from voting for morons to represent their district. The biggest problem this county faces is the voter. It would be an extremely dumb idea to give the voter more power.
So 4:18 and 4:08 what would propose citizens that you described do in the event that a tax increase is mandated? I am of course refering to the ones that in your words are already paying as much as they can? Too bad for them, right? Throw them under the bus with an unwanted or unnecessary tax increase because as you frequently say that citizens are too selfish and would NEVER vote in a NEEDED tax increase?! Don't know about your friends and neighbors but most citizens I hang around with would not hesitate to vote for taxes that would be utilized for the county services. But you say we need to trust those in charge of financials matters to know what is best. Well how's that working out for you? Your insurance current that you paid for with payroll deductions? Your retirement papers all in order that you turned in the proper way so you won't have a huge gap in between paydays? How about your payroll deductions to your annuities? Lose any interst on those accounts in the past 3 to 6 months? By all means continue to trust those in charge and not the irresponsible citizens you claim to know and in fact claimed you were also one that wouldn't vote for NECESSARY tax. Don't come back with " I never said that. Those are your words." I didn't quote you. I summarized your words. Don't play semantic games with me. You won't win.
4:08 Glad to see you admit people are already paying all the taxes they can.
I guess food and medicine will have to go so they can pay this mess off or loose their home for taxes.
5:52 You think if the wheel tax had passed last year we wouldn't be in this mess and the hospital fund not used. I think if the wheel tax had passed, they would of spent the money on something else and we would still be in this mess.
So we don't want to vote a moron in, are you sure we haven't before?
As for the charter this mess has made it look more favorable because we could get rid of some of these commissioners, they wouldn't be allowed to run until they stayed out a turn. After saying that I'm still not sure I will vote for the charter.
5:55
I just don't see things as you do, and that somehow makes me wrong, doesn't it? Wrong.
No indeed I would not vote for a "necessary" tax as you call it. However, I would most likely vote for a wheel tax.
I thought you guys didn't believe in raising taxes? No? Cut spending? Yes? I would totally agree with you on that, but there comes a point when even that is not enough.
Imagine having a charter where taxes could not be raised one dime without a vote of the people. What will you and those like allen barrett who are pushing this charter have to say when services are cut or cancelled and our city eventually becomes a ghost town? Will you blame that on Mrs Vanzant and commissioners, particularly those in District 7?
7:24 Have you got charter and wab burned on the brain? 5:55 sounded like a teacher to me. Yet you never said how you would feel if money had been taken out of your check for insurance and that wasn't paid.
Why do you have to put everyone in with Barrett? People can have a different opinion from you and not always agree with Barrett.
As someone said in another post, "don't blame the other commissioners in the 7th District for the way campbell acts." But you want to throw in Harwell and Coleman like they have to dislike them if they don't approve of the way you act.
724
This place will be a ghost town because there aren't any good jobs, things to do, mismanaged government and no way to combat this good ol boy system currently presiding....
5:13, thanks for your respectful rebuttal. I have no problem in agreeing to disagree. I'm sure we all know people who have fought and died so that we may have the right to disagree. I see and appreciate your points, and defend your right to have your opinions. I'm sure that it's much harder to budget spending for the county than it is for a household, but the principles should be the same. The rising cost of living has affected all of us, but, unlike the county, we don't have the luxery of forcing our employers to pay us more if we run short during the month. We have to pick something to do without, the county should do the same. It's a terrible responsibility and I would think the officials would welcome input from the voters. Vote the way you think is best for the citizens, that's all any of us can do. I would gladly shake your hand at the polls, regardless of the outcome, if you do that.
As for you, 5:52, I am amazed at your logic. You would have fit in perfectly in the old Soviet Union. How can you even post such an imbecilic comment Did you even read your post before you submitted it? What would be extremely dumb would be to give you more room to post on this blog.
Ray Lanier
8:54 Good post Ray.
Ray, didn't you vote for Obama? I think that is all anyone needs to know about your logic. You have proven time and time again that you are a childish idiot. Go back to your corner.
Ray,
Thanks for the kind remarks. These people just can't be happy with anything that's said on this blog...unless they are the authors.
If the county passed a $50.00 wheel tax. a $50.00 fire tax and a $.50 increase to the property tax there is absolutely no reason to believe those in charge would show in better discipline in handling that money than they have handling what they have already blown. Keep in mind that in the past six years these very people have overspent by seven million dollars.
Ask yourself where else does a non union custodian make over $30,000.00 a year have incredible benefits and get to use a county vehicle with taxpayer gas as a personal vehicle?
When those in charge allow a person to use taxpayer funds to pay over a thousand dollars a month to his wife's agency for health insurance without even raising an eyebrow why would you think they would be concerned about a few thousand here and a few hundred thousand there.
These leaders were warned about what a bad idea it was to issue county credit cards but that would be so much more convenient they responded now look what we have.
The problem is not a lack of funds it is a lack of discipline to do the right thing and commit to the reality that the county just can't afford somethings.
In the last commission meeting it was stated that the county didn't have any money to purchase $90,000.00 for new ambulance cots, but immediately after this was stated they voted to purchase those cots anyway.
I do not speak for others but for me until I can trust the county leadership to act responsibly, cut waste and plan appropriately I will never support any new taxes regardless of what name they are called by. The Charter is not the all in all solution to all our problems but it sure goes farther than anything we have now and will allow the citizens a say in the behavior of the leadership that will prevent some of this kind of mess.
To7:24: I am 5:55. Nice dodge of all of my questions! Now. Here are are a few for you snd a few thoughts to ponder . First of all who are the "you guys" that you refer to? Next, What does the 7th district got to do with anything I said in my 5:55 post? I do not live anywhere close to that area. Also I stand by what I said. I have faith in my fellow citizens. I believe most would vote fo for a NEEDED tax increase if those in charge of the finances could be trusted. Sorry you aren't willing to do so. Please notice the emphasis on the word "needed"!!!! Again I ask you about the people you referred to that are already maxed out and cannot pay anymore. You apparently have no kindness in your heart for them or so it sounded to me. And finally, what has Mr. Barrett got to do with my post? Only someone obsessed with him would tie him to anything I posted since I have yet to meet him. Please answer the questions or at least pretend to discuss anyway. Thank you
barrett
You seem to be one of the more pranoid and distrustful people I have ever seen. What happened in your life to cause this? It reminds me of the woman who is constantly accusing the husband of running around on her. That's usually a sign that she either is doing it herself or is thinking about it. In other words, the one doing the accusing is more than likely the one with the problem. Can you extrapolate and make the proper application?
As for a charter, I suppose it would be a good tool to use for removing elected officials from office whom the people want to be there in the first place, the rationale being that their having to vacate would give some of you guys a chance to gain those positions. Isn't this at the root of the push for a charter? My prayer is that those like you are never "in charge" of things here in the county. Please notice the emphasis on the words "in charge".
You and 12:47 claim that you THINK people will just go into a voting booth and voluntarily opt for a tax increase. Well, what happens if they don't? That's not good. And would either of you (perhaps one and the same person) be willing to bet your life that the state will not withdraw supporting funds should Giles County decide by way of a charter to go it alone? Would you? I wouldn't bet a dime on that. My promise to you is that I will work hard to see this thing defeated.
Don't we have a school board that over sees school spending ? Are they not in this mess somewhere ???
Again I ask for the 3rd time: What would you do with the citizens who in your own words are already paying as much as they can? Talk about paranoid, you think everyone that makes sense and calls you on your good ole boy, don't rock the boat, sweep under the rug mentality is either Mr. Barrett or Mr. Barrett posting anonymously. Guess there are maybe more than 2 or 3 who are unhappy with the status quo. Seems to me by constantly lying and saying that there are only 2 or 3 unhappy citizens because of the way things are being managed, you are downplaying the importance of what's happening right now. I personally see that as giving those in charge the green light to keep on keeping on. Wonder if that could be interpreted as a form of "enabling"? Fact: things are in a mess with county finaces. Fact: bills were paid late, if at all with money already taken from citizens. Fact: Nobody in the finance office knows what happened except other people's money did not pay for what it was supposed to. Fact: It wasn't one month, it was at least three. That's called a cover up, possible embezzlement. Fact: Just because you don't like the facts, doesn't change the FACTS! Do you pay your bills on time. Do you take other people's money on false pretenses, telling yourself you will put it back in the next 2, 3 or 4 months. When caught do you explain by saying, just a mistake, no big deal. The money is here...somewhere? Any repeat ANY defense of financial mgmt. at this point is enabling. Mistake or deliberate misuse of public monies is criminal. Also a FACT. Ignorance of the law is not a defense in court.
Paranoid! I wonder how many beside me think cg is paranoid.
Noticed he just accused the one posted 12:47 as being Barrett instead of answering the questions 12:47 asked in his 5:55 post. This makes me wonder just how involved he is in the misplaced money.
I had thought he just didn't like Barrett. His not liking Barrett so is also like a woman accusing her husband of stepping out on her. lol
To 5:19 why I respond to this is beyond my understanding, perhaps it’s boredom or just the fascination of exposing your ignorant, hypocritically arrogant attacks of hate and anger.
You proclaim, notice it really isn’t a question just a statement without the level of responsibility usually connected with a mature adult, “You seem to be one of the more pranoid and distrustful people I have ever seen. What happened in your life to cause this? “
My answer: Well, I guess it was trying to deal with backstabbing, lying, government autocrats and enabling elitists that embrace wrongdoing for personal gains at the expense of the non- elites.
You say, “It reminds me of the woman who is constantly accusing the husband of running around on her. That's usually a sign that she either is doing it herself or is thinking about it. In other words, the one doing the accusing is more than likely the one with the problem. Can you extrapolate and make the proper application?”
My answer: according you your little analogy if anyone suspects or states their spouse is cheating on them it is actually the one making the announcement who is cheating and the spouse is actually innocent by virtue of the accuser’s accusation. Hummm. Based on that seems like only those cheating are making announcements of cheating, isn’t that the same as a confession? So if a woman finds lipstick on her husband’s collar, he is staying out all night, he is seen with another woman entering a motel room and exiting some five hours later he’s not actually cheating the wife is. Sorry but I just can’t get my head wrapped around the absurdity that concept creates.
You state, again it isn’t a question even with a question mark because you gave the answer with it, unfortunately it was the wrong answer as usual, “As for a charter, I suppose it would be a good tool to use for removing elected officials from office whom the people want to be there in the first place, the rationale being that their having to vacate would give some of you guys a chance to gain those positions. Isn't this at the root of the push for a charter?
The root of the charter is to create transparency and remove the veil that has allowed the financial mess we are in from happening. The charter would allow for a recall vote so a crazy person could not destroy the county finances while we wait for the next election. I don’t know if you noticed but not all elected officials are what they seem before the election. I believe you might even be supportive of a recall for the president and governor. ---- End of Part One---
---- Part Two----
You state, “My prayer is that those like you are never "in charge" of things here in the county. Please notice the emphasis on the words "in charge".
My answer: Based on your behavior and postings I have a great confidence that since God responds to the prayers of a righteous man, He will remain silent to your demands.
You state, “You and 12:47 claim that you THINK people will just go into a voting booth and voluntarily opt for a tax increase. Well, what happens if they don't? That's not good.”
My answer: It may not be good for you but just think how wonderful it would be for the people who happened to have a few extra dollars not confiscated by the government. Maybe you keep forgetting that it was just a few years ago that the people did go into the booth and vote for a tax increase to be levied on us. What happens if the people don’t vote for a tax increase, well the wasteful government will have to discipline themselves to get by with less just like real people have to.
Your most outrageous statement is also the dumbest as you state, “would either of you (perhaps one and the same person) be willing to bet your life that the state will not withdraw supporting funds should Giles County decide by way of a charter to go it alone? Would you?
My answer: A charter is an authority or means for secession from the state. No one I know has any intention of doing that, it didn’t work out so well for us the last time it was tried. I tell you what just to show the absurdity of your claim and bet. I accept your bet, even though I’m surprised that a Christian Gentleman like you would be gambling for such high stakes. If we pass the charter and the state withdraws or withholds one dollar from us because of it I’ll come to the courthouse gazebo and at high noon, the day after the funds are withdrawn, and commit suicide. How’s that for betting my life. I guess with such a bet you will now change sides and be very active in getting the charter passed.
9:58, you're so cute I just wanna squeeze you until that walnut-sized brain comes popping right out of your ear. I absolutely voted for Obama -- as is my right -- and plan to do so again in November. Burns your ass, don't it? Oh well, you can probably pass THAT off as razor rash. I'm sure everyone appreciates your contribution to this blog, I know I do. I will go back to the corner, if you can get someone to help you find your way out of it. Surely you can figure out how, it's a corner, not an oval. In conclusion, Bite me, dumbass.
Affectionately yours,
Ray Lanier
Rat, vote for Obama if you want. Voting for that socialist is just like voting for the old Soviet Union. You do a fine job of contadicting your previous posts. Once people have gotten as dumb as you are politically it is best to just write them off. Maybe you should move to San Francisco with your rainbow buddies.
Dumbass at 3:05, it's easy to spout off without any facts. Back up what you say with something I can refute or shut the hell up. I have contridicted nothing except ignorant posts from asswipes like you. I guess you believe he was born in Kenya too, don't you? Well, go ahead and vote for the alternative. It's my opinion that the Mittster probably has a few wives hidden away somewhere so we can't see them. That's what ALL Mormans do, isn't it? Dumbass. I guess you think we have enough say in what the federal government does as well,huh? Government is government from local on up. Seems like you think we should blindly follow whoever's in charge, since they are obviously smarter than the rest of us. That's probably true in your case. I'd say you'd be hard pressed to not find someone smarter than you. What one believes and what one institutes as policy are two different things. If Obama is a socialist, he's a damned poor one. Dumbass.
Ray Lanier
Still waiting on the answer to my question(s) from 7:24. Please retread my post of 8:54 a.m. Do you have any responses beside the ones you always use when someone backs you into a corner? Nobody is making fun of your Christianity, stirring trouble, lying about you, making things up, or putting words in your mouth. Could it be you now can admit there are more than 2 or 3 at most who disagree with the powers that be? Have you learned anything since this whole situation began.? I hope so!
Poor little crazy Ray. One of these days you are going to wish you didn't spout off like you do. On one hand you vote for Obama who is working his ass off to grow the size of government and on the other you want less government and more accountability. I guess you want people to pay more taxes but you want people that don't pay taxes to pay even less taxes.
Which side are you swinging for? I guess you can take that any way you want. You also need to expand your vocabulary. I have always heard that a person using foul language is uneducated and not very smart. Also, Mormon is spelled the way you see it posted here. I guess you don't like any forms of religion that think only men and women should be allowed to get married. Read some books, take some classes and then you can try and get into conversations with the adults. Until then, enjoy your corner.
barrett.
How dare you in all your arrogance suppose that God will not hear my prayers. Oh, and I am certain he hears yours? What a joke.
If you are referring to me as an enabler of wrongfdoings, I must again call you the liar that you are. I don't understand why you have such a hard time "wrapping your head" around rather simple concepts. First of all, I told you that I am a Christian who does not willfully go along with wrongdoings. That just wasn't acceptable to your excellency, so I recently stated (at least three times) that I think anyone caught up in wrong with regard to this mess our county is in should be punished and/or go to jail. Why can't you accept that as further "proof" that you are a liar? In reality, I don't owe YOU any explanations as to why I don't support wrong. I know my heart and so does God Almighty. Again, thank God you are not my judge.
I NEVER said that one spouse is innocent when the other cheats. I happen to believe nobody is totally innocent in such circumstances, so stop lying.
I stand by every word I saidf with respect to being thankful people like you are not in charge.
You claim that the charter is an authority or secession from the state. Brilliant! That's just what we need. Two points. Would yopu bnet your life on it that people would voluntarily vote themselves another tax increase? Times are much harder now, and, thanks to people like you, people are woefully distrustful of elected officials. Would you also be willing to bet your life that the state would suspend supporting funds to our county if we "seceeded' from them? Would you? Not me.
Yopu did say one thing right in your lengthy epistle. I am in fact a Christian gentleman. Thank you; I will take that as a compliment. Coming from someone like you, that's huge.
No, don't look for me to be supporting the charter in your lifetime.
Will someone please tell me what Ray Lanier voting for Obama has to do with Giles County, Finical mess?
I think it's just trying to get everyone off the subject.
8:05, I'll be more than happy to match IQs with you anyday, from what I've read so far, it would be very un-fair to you. I believe I was perfectly clear that I am for more voter involvement at all levels of government. You can try to twist my words to your hearts content, but that only serves to highlight your ignorance rather than mine. So I misspelled a word, it happens. I do not care for any religion that advocates marriage between a man and a woman and a woman and a woman and so forth. Doesn't change the fact that I can hold my own in a conversation with someone like you any day of the week. You obviously lack the confidence you so evidently try to display from you position of anonymity. Post your name and we can have coffee and discuss this further. It's up to you, but I'm sure you'll just respond with your tired old corner remark and some excuse as to why you must remain anonymous. Seems to be the only one you have available. Bring it or don't, but I would much rather have someone with more intelligence challenge me on here. I'm having a hard time thinking up small enough words for you to understand, Dumbass. Seems like a person as steadfast in their convictions as you would be proud to claim any posts they made, so what's wrong with you? Are you really just not that sure of yourself? We'll see, I guess, but I'm sure that will just be one more thing I'm right about when it comes to you.
Ray Lanier
Well Ray, you did exactly as I thought. You spent a very long paragraph trying to be a bully and only used one sentence to try and explain your political stance. Great job ol' boy! I am starting to think that a 5 year old is sitting beside you as you type. When you develop a mind of your own you can maybe get closer to my intellectual level. If you want me to start giving you some homework to show you only an idiot would vote for a liberal just let me know. You would have been lucky to shine the shoes of the men that founded our country.
You can get out of the corner to sleep tonight. I expect you back there by 8 am. I will send you a copy of Atlas Shrugged so that you can see how stupid you are when it comes to politics.
I wondered why so many voted for vanzant and canpbell. I believe 9:54 answered it.
Don't liberals spend money they don't have and expect the tax payers to cough up more money.
Cots for the ambulance services. Not saying they aren't needed, saying voted to spend money they don't have.
8:05
And you call the dribble you wrote adult? Just a childish attack on some one.
5:34
What have I learned thus far? Well, to be quite honest, I have learned that you were mistaken about what I have said. Yes, there are more than two or three who are mad at our elected officials. That's because of all the troublemaking here in the county being caused by a very small handful of people who claim to never meeet and perhaps don't even know one another. Laughable.
What I did say is that there are two or maybe three at the most who are on this blog spewing venom consistently.
It is funny how the psycho at 8:14 spews more venom and attacks the ones it disagrees with by calling them names. The name it chooses is troublemaker. But it fails to call the ones that actually caused the financial mess in the county troublemakers even though they created trouble for every citizen in the county. Wonder why it continues to enable wrong doings by our elected officials and county workers who are wasting tax payer money while adamantly screaming and whining Barrett lied about its enabling of wrong doing? The only answer it could be is it is one of those involved in creating the financial mess for the taxpayers. Playing on the computer all day when it should have been doing its job. Remember how it was the voice for best fit hiring as opposed to best qualified hiring practices. Explains a lot.
We all know it will come on here and state more lies but you can never convince me that it is not one of the ones that is fleecing the community at this very moment. It is too adamant in it's protection of the ones that got us into this mess. It must be one of the real troublemakers.
Did they ever find the money that is not missing, or do we still just not know where it is?
From the posts I have seen I do not believe Barrett told a lie about the enabler. I truly believe it enables wrong doing. Until it proves differently with it's actions as opposed to it's claim to Christianity I will not change my mind about it. After all how many times has the psycho stated one thing to go back and try to twist what it stated into another meaning after it has been proven wrong.
Sincerely,
CG still whining & lying
Sincerely,
CG still whining & crying
mal
What names did I call you guys...other than troublemakers? Isn't that what you proudly call yourselves? I am certain that barrett spouts off about his being a troublemaker. He even calls himself that, so is it name-calling to refer to him as such? NO!
Stop lying about what I have said about those who have gotten us into a financial mess. Those individuals need to be fired or sent to jail or both. That's right; they need to go. In view of what I juist said, why would those like you and barrett continue to lie and say that I go along with wrongdoings? STOP LYING.
The only enablers I see are those like you who keep promoting the barrett lie that I willfully support wrongdoings. That makes you just as much a liar as he is. You keep bringing this up, and I'm going to call you on it every time. Your continual reference to me as an enabler of wrongdoing makes both you and barrett look like you're not too bright. Stop lying.
mal
I forgot to mention the obvious to you again. Please go take a look in your mirror if you want to see the real liar and whiner.
9:54, I'm glad I didn't disappoint you. I didn't realize I was trying to bully you; I only invited you for coffee. I guess you're declining the invitation, huh? I will gladly accept some homework from you, but only if you deliver it to me personally. I wasn't aware that we were in a real political discussion, since I rarely debate people with no names. Do you think I was the only one that voted for Obama or will vote for him again? Don't spend too much money on personalized party favors before November, I don't think they are refundable. Lay some of your pseudo-facts on me, dumbass, and I'll dispute them. Otherwise, respond with your same old tired corner crap and let me get on with my day. What a dumbass.
Ray Lanier
Oh yea, forget to ask. When was Atlas president? Dumbass, leave it to you to base your arguments on a fantasy novel.
Hey Ray, why don't you tell us of all the legislation that Obama has passed that isn't socialist in nature. Tell us how he isn't trying to take money from the wealthy and distribute it the poor and those unwilling to work. Explain to us how telling a group of people that don't pay taxes that the rich aren't paying enough isn't creating class warfare. Tell us how small business owners can hire people when they can't afford to pay health care costs for the employees they already have. Tell us how it is constitutional to mandate that all Americans have to purchase something like health insurance. I suppose you can wait on the Supreme Court to tell you why it isn't. Tell me how much money he added to the deficit before the Republicans gained control of the house and slowed him down.
By you calling Atlas Shrugged a fantasy novel I can see that you have never read it. If you can comprehend the wording I think you would see that anything other than capitalism will destroy our nation. You are a child Ray. Come out of the corner and eat your peanut butter and jelly.
To answer that 420 question you had Ray, "no thats not what Mormons do." That was a practice dropped in the 1800's and not practiced under the direction of the leadership of the "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.".
oh, i know that, 3:11. I just said that cause it was about as silly as the hooplah about Obama's birth certificate. I maybe would have voted for another repug, like Ron Paul, but I think we haven't seen any problems like we'll see if Romney gets the job.
Ray Lanier
2:34
You mention Constitutional rights but fail to mention Bush pushing the Patriot Act on the American people. An act that was penned by a north Korean. Many Congressmen complained that the document voted on was not the same document that had been presented to them before. I could sit here all day and list lies George Bush told the American people to feed the fears of the American people so he could finish his daddy's war. Neither party is honest with us and the good candidates never have enough money to battle the two dominant political parties which are basically different sides of the same coin.
But if you want to read a good book, I suggest The Wonderful Wizard of Oz. You could learn a lot about capitalism.
2:34, I have the novel on my bookshelf next to 1984 and Brave New World, where it belongs. Sci-fi, fiction, fantasy. Just to shorten things up, show me what has been passed that is socialism. Obama-care is just like Romney-care, is it not? What is the difference in mandating health insurance and the financial responsibility law? They are both there to keep the burden of the un-insured off of the rest of us. You probably do see a difference, though. Anyone can argue anything. Why should the wealthy 1% get by with paying less taxes, percentage wise, than the middle-class? Even most of the super-wealthy have admitted that they are not opposed to a heaftier tax rate for themselves. I don't see that as class warfare, just fair, period.
Is it fair that the rich don't pay any s.s. taxes on income over $110 grand? The list goes on and on, my un-enlightened dumbass. I can continue with this post later, right now I have to entertain some of my more reasonable republican friends. We're having a cook-out and I'm not charging them a damned thing, you know, cause that's what they like. Dumbass.
Ray Lanier
Well thanks for your answer 334. Was just making sure everyone knew that also.
Thanks, 3:53, it was starting to look like a barren wasteland out here.
Your welcome, 4:01, just trying to make a point
Ray Lanier
Ray, you are a complete moron. I hope you know that most people that make over $110k per year don't want any help from the government. They are smart, educated and willing to get out and work to save for their own retirement. A social security check coming to them at retirement is only a drop in the bucket. They probably donate it to charity or church. Unlike you, they are not going to trust in daddy government to keep them alive. You have so much to learn about life and government and personal responsibility. The problem is that you are old enough now that it won't make a difference. You have already made your bed.
A wealthy man hires people. He employs them and offers them benefits for themselves and their family. He invests in capital for his company to ensure his employees keep their job. Only an idiot like you would think that taxing him would help the U.S. worker. You don't own Atlas Shrugged. It isn't sitting on a shelf next to any book because someone like you doesn't want to know the truth. You had rather feel sorry for yourself and make excuses as to why someone is holding you back. Apache Circle is definitley a road sit aside for the Uber successful. Wow, look at that, I used one of your secret vocabulary words. I won't tell anybody that it is taught in third grade. Quit picking your nose and stick it back in the corner.
Someone please tell me that's not the Christian gentleman arguing with Ray.
8:37
I hate to tell you this since you seem so educated on the issue but if you look historically, and this is economists research, our nation has always performed better under democratic leadership. Per capita income on the average is higher and more citizens have avenues to open new businesses. When Republicans are in office wealth is concentrated into the hands of a few. You have heard of trickle down economics or some other elitist economic model that takes away from medium and low level incomes and benefits the wealthy in hopes they will generate enough jobs to feed the masses. Give the benefits to the rich and let the rest have the crumbs that fall through the cracks seems to be the motto of the Republicans.
And before you get your panties in a wad, I am not a Democrat or Republican. I vote independent because they are the only candidates I find that still believe in the Constitution and are not trying to drive us continually to war.
I haven't read any thing on here that would lead me to believe Ray is living or wanting to live of the governments tit, but since we pay into these Government programs they need to be there if we ever need them.
I just read that half of returning U.S vets are claiming disability. Are you going to say the same thing about them as you did Ray? If a person is forced to pay into these programs should they not be there if ever needed? Maybe you know better after all you seem to be soooo educated on every subject.
Thank you 10:02 for your well thought and articulated post. Guess I was right, 8:37, you are a dumbass. Probably receiving disability for P.T.S.D. due to everyone riding your ass because of your foolish statements. Do you honestly think you calling me a moron is gonna change the country. You are a fool if you think the greedy rich will not take their s.s. checks when they quilify for them. You are right on one thing, though. A wealthy man hires workers for his company...overseas. Obama is fighting the republicans trying to tax the hell out of corps that outsource their business, dumbass.
Come check out my book shelf any time you want to, my address is on here. I read a bit of everything, fiction included. I just don't base my opinions on a fantasy novel written in the 50s by a Russian --born and educated -- woman that creates her own "ism". If that's all you've got with which to compose your professional opinions, I don't know why I even bother arguing with you. I guess you think the love story in the book was real too, don't you, asswipe? You are obviously living on the same planet that Romney's god is. Did you also hold a kid down and cut his hair because you didn't agree with him. I could use a trim, mighty-mouth. Oh, did I mention yet that you were a dumbass, dumbass? Just checking. One more thing, show me on this blog anywhere that I have said someone is holding me back. I am quite comfortable in my little subdivision. Come out anytime, I'll make you most welcome. Although you did use one of my secret vocabulary words, you used it incorrectly, once again proving you are a dumbass, dumbass. And no, that is not C.G. He always disagrees with me with respect, not just drivel that anyone with a mail-order diploma can generate. Have a nice day, well, everyone but dumbass, that is. You just pick one of your uber-realistic works of fiction -- see, that's how you use it, dumbass -- and try to come up with some more really convincing posts. Better luck next time.
Ray Lanier
9:08
I am the one you guys just love to taunt, because I claim Christ in my life. Please allow me to answer your question.
No, I am not the one arguing with Ray. While he and I would disagree on some things, I think we have a respect for each other that simply allows us to agree to disagree without being disagreeable. I think the disgruntled should try that philosophy.
7:03 Thanks for answering me. Someone said it was you, I disagreed but decided to ask. With do many of us posting anonymous, I have a hard time guessing who is who. If I call you a Christian Gentleman, I'm only identifying you.
I thought you didn't like Obama. I don't either but respect Ray's right to like him.
7:50
Well, thank you for the kind remarks. No, I do not support Obama's policies but likewise respect Ray's views. I really think that's been the problem with this blog all along. That is, those with differeing views are laughed at and called names.
Again, thanks.
I haven't seen Ray post any view that you couldn't learn on MSNBC in about 5 minutes. He, just like all libtards, is only playing defense by being childish because he can't argue the facts. Come out of the corner and eat your fruit loops Ray.
What's the matter, 8:25? Didn't garner the support that you expected to? Dumbass. I would rather take my views from MSNBC -- which I can't even get out here in the ghetto -- than from a Russian written work of science fiction, but hey, that's just me. I have been arguing the facts, looks to me like you're the one stuck on the "corner" remark. It's a shame that's all you've got. It was actually a bit funny, the first 3 or 4 times you said it, but sadly, quite like yourself, it's now becoming old and meaningless. Grab a decent dictionary or thesaurus and see if you can't come up with something else. You seem to be on the ropes, flagging and more feeble with every girly punch you attempt to throw. You'll never have my respect, but you do have my pity. Must be pretty frustrating to get shot down every time you try to leave the ground. Oh well, some are made to soar and some are made to be dumbasses. In case you are having problems with that, you fall into the latter group. Happy Memorial Day, dumbass.
Ray,
Since you don't want to come up with stuff on your own, I will give you some reasons Obama has been terrible for America and you can finally show how much you know and refute them.
Youth unemployment has risen 7.5% since Obama took office. It was 10.5% in late 2007 and is now 18%.
Gas prices have risen from an average of $1.85/gallon when he was elected to almost $4 now. I would blame his unwillingness to drill in the US and his lack of foreign policy experience for that one.
The only economy that has taken a backslide worse than ours since 2008 is Greece. Economists see us one more term of Obama away from being where they are.
New bank loans are at only 50% of the GDP and should be closer to 100% of the GDP. This is mostly due to the Dodd-Frank bill. (two liberals)
National Debt has risen 65% under Obama from $10 trillion to $15.5 trillion in only 3 years. Projections have it rising another $6 to $8 trillion if he gets another term.
Welfare spending is up 29% and food stamps are up 68% since Obama took ofice. There are now 47 million people feeding off of the government.
He voted for post birth abortions,
which in my view is murder.
All of these issues are pushing us closer and closer to socialism. Rather than try to create jobs, which he has proven he doesn't know how or care to do, Obama had rather get us all dependant on the government so the government can have more control over our lives. He is the worst president in history to work with congress. Even his own party members can't seem to agree with his far left views. The only people I know that want to vote for him again are thinking they have something to gain from the government giving them something.
So there you go. Let me see that you can do something besides use foul language and try to be a bully. Good Luck!
7:03 There's another lie you are telling. I've not read a single post where anyone is calling you a name or making fun of you or tauning you because of a belief in your Christianity. Not a single one. You may wish that were the case so you could continue on your holier than thou self-righteous ramblings. As I previously stated, just because you don't like the facts, it doesn't change the facts! Did you conveniently forget my other questions or points. What would you do about the tax payer who in your words is already paying all they can and the commission decide to arbitrarily impose a new tax. You have already stated you weren't voluntarily going to help out on NEEDED taxes. Your explanation of the so called two or three does not hold water and therefore makes an additional lie you have told. I also asked you about the finnancial mess and where the buck should stop. Not with Garner according to you, certainly not Vanzant you are sure of, hmmmm, not the commissioners, so is it Allen Barrett and his merry man that created this whole conspiracy like the actors in the Casino heist movie, Ocean's 11? Man, they are so smart. They thought of everything. I stand by my statement, any defense of anyone associated with the finaces of this county and the handling of such is an enabler at least and possibly a co-spirator. Mistakes have consequences and some mistakes have legal and or criminal consequences. But as I also said, 3 months of withholding someone's elses money to pay something else is a crime. If someone did that to you personally, I have no doubt you would press charges. So maybe you should thank the teachers who are not, at least not yet charging all your enabled friends with corpoate theft and embezzlement. You ignored all these questions, and I am sure you either will continue to do so or pop back with the "you are putting words in my mouth, twisting things" dribble. Yeah, we all know you think those should be pusnished who are responsible as long as it's not Garner, Vaanzant, the commission or any other of your buddies. Basically the only person who should be pusnished is Mr. Barrett for getting the news out there and allowing others to voice their opinions. Call George Orwell to lock him up!
I hear half of the mess hasn't come out yet. Maybe be lawsuit yet.
Thanks 4:45PM for your comments to Ray. His language is very vulgar for this web site. He has no respect for anyone on here. Please Mr. Barrett ban him and his sick words from here. Thanks.
Rex
No problem Rex. He has acted like a little kid since he started posting. He has pretended to be smart long enough. He has also used foul language far too long. The problem is that he will post and act even more childish by typing more dirty words. He is a fool and I don't feel bad about saying it because it is true. An adult with any respect for themselves would never act the way he does.
Wasn't long ago that these very words were synonymous with someone else 7:37.
Who might that be 7:48?
Lets have a get rid of Ray campain!
Ray can hang around as long as he will start backing up what he says with some evidence. I am just tired of him claiming to be so smart and not really knowing anything. He goes to the dictionary and pulls out some little word like uber that was started from punk music and he expects that we don't know what it means or where it is used. Then he falsely claims that someone used it out of context. Ray has to learn that there are people on here that will test his intelligence. It is hard to make people believe you are smart when you can't seem to prove it.
I don't like the foul language Ray uses, but calling him a fool puts you as bad as him. I think you could of said that without calling him a name.
First things first, 8:48, it's not your call whether or not I stay around. You do not run this blog, so I don't need your permission. Also, uber did not come from any kind of music and it was used incorrectly; it does not have to be capitalized, but it should be hyphenated. I'll stop saying dumbass when y'all stop saying fool, liar, little kid, idiot, etc. That is just as offensive to me. 4:45, here are just a few statements for your post at this time, I don't want to take up ALL the room on here.
You can't blame youth un-employment on Obama. Teen employment has been falling at about the same rate since the early 2000s. Going back even further, youth employment rates have been falling since the early 80s; during every recession, the rate has tumbled and never recovered to its pre-recession level during the ensuing recovery. At least Obama is trying to help by making it easier for teens to get the education they need:
More student loans at lower rates
Students can now stay on parents insurance until 26 yrs of age
Pell Grant to be tied to Consumer Price Index to keep up with inflation
More job training programs
The fact that there are an over-abundance of inexperienced youths trying to enter the workforce is not the fault of Obama. Over 16% of U.S. students do not even finish high school. Yeah, W, no child left behind my ass. Kids no longer want to unload grocery trucks or do much of anything that can't provide them with a fancy car and designer clothes. Lacks of mainstream values have also contributed to the high un-employment rate among teens. Shouldn't this, along with a strong work ethic, be taught at home?
Finally, dealing with jobs in general. In tracking modern presidents' job loss/creation records, starting from 1 year into term – to give new policies a chance to take effect – Obama has actually created jobs while George W suffered a net-job LOSS. This is according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, so gripe at them if you don't like the numbers.
Drill more here to decrease gas prices? Wrong! Since Feb 09, U.S. drilling has increased by 15%. Where are the savings at the pump? MIT energy professors say that increasing U.S. drilling by 50% would only lower prices at the pump an estimated .35 per gal. Oil is a global market and there's nothing much a nation or it's president can do about that, republican or democrat. I'm going to walk my dogs now, I'll refute the rest of this propaganda at my convenience.
Yea Rex, cry because someone is exercising their 1st amendment right. Please, Mr. Barrett, Ray is talking awful, he's not being respectful, waah waah waah. Mr.B knows how to use the delete feature, this is his blog. Now let's see, by my count, that was about 5 insults to me since my last post, at least 2 of which included name-calling, so: dumbass,dumbass,dumbass,dumbass, asswipe and dumbass. I think I'm caught up for now. Ciao peeps.
Ray Lanier
8:51, my most sincere apologies for offending you. It was my intention to offend specific posters, not all of you in general.
8:48, the only thing some of you are testing is my patience, not my intelligence. It does not appear that I will ever learn my lesson if you are my instructor. You're so plagiaristic, joe. Now I'm going to walk my dogs. Hey Rex, run that by Mr.B and see if it's ok, would'ja?
Damn, 4:45, I forget to mention. If you want folks on here to really think you know what you are talking about, go a bit further than the first page Google returns when you search. You took each and every question off of the website "The Street", article name: 10 Reasons Obama Will Not Be Re-Elected. All you did was change the order of the reasons around, except for the post-birth abortion statement, which was just a re-run from your previous post. Whoo-hoo, that was pretty cool. I think you deserve a special "dumbass" for that one. Hahahaha. It's a good thing your name is "anonymous" already or it would be very embarrassing for you to post again. I knew reading all that true fiction would catch up with you.
Ray is superman or Batman real? Did you know that DC Comics is bringing one our comic heros out of a closet this week. No one knows who it will be yet. Who do you all think? I think Robin, he seemed a little sissy.
Rex
Ray,
Well congratulations. The disgruntled have added you to their list of undesirables. You are now in the same boat with me, all 7th District commissioners, Mrs. Vanzant, and select others these people do not like.
I disagree with your position on President Obama, but the Republicans I've seen around here and at our state level make me sicker. Hang in there.
Wow Ray, your sure are getting all bent out of shape when people start putting the pressure on you. You only spend about 10% of your post debating all of the stuff someone asked you about and the rest was trying to be a bully as usual. Be a man and learn to have conversation without losing your temper. If you thought the person was so dumb you would stop replying to them. The term Uber was made popular in America from punk rock music and was used correctly as it has gained several sland meanings over the years. There is a list of 218 reasons not to vote for Obama on the internet also. The all have sources listed to back them up. If you like, I could post all of those? It doesn't matter where you get the information as long as it is factual. But you go get 'em Ray. You got the CG on your side. Maybe you two can team up for a Darwin Award.
7:42
That's a lie. I am not on anyone's side here. And I don't use fowl language. Furthermore, I think Ray has a right to his free speech just as you do. I just choose not to use some of the words he does. Ok?
Ray, how would you have known where those facts came from if you weren't doing a Google search to try to find reasons why it wasn't true? I guess you didn't find anything during your research to refute it all? I figure I should start out small just so you don't get overwhelmed. You can't start out at graduate school level when you are working with 8th graders.
Rex, I hope it's Robin. He's really the only one with the legs to pull it off.
7:42, I fear you will never learn. "The crossover of the term "über" from German into English goes back to the work of German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche. In 1883, Nietzsche coined the term "Übermensch" to describe the higher state to which he felt men might aspire." I'm not sure which "sland" meanings you are talking about, but there weren't many punk-rock bands in the 19th century. Do you even know what a bully is? Please be so kind as to point out anywhere in my post where I tried to bully someone. You make statements like that and then have the gall to accuse me of not backing up my posts with facts. I was quite serene while composing my post and feel much the same as I'm writing now. Must be those free drugs I get from the gov'ment. Go to 20 different sites and you'll find 20 different points-of-view. It's all in how the data is interpreted. Please do post the 218 reasons, sounds like interesting reading. BTW, 10% would only have been about 3 sentences, so I think I exceeded that by a considerable margin.
8:44, of course I used Google for some of my information. My first clue that you had plagiarized -- once again -- was the coherency of your post, so I began searching for your source right away. 7:42 said that was ok, so it's ok, right? I stopped refuting when I realized you had merely copied a list and passed it off as your own quasi-original thinking. At least I went to more than one site. IMHO, even our education system has not fallen to the point where you would know anything about graduate school.
Batten down the hatches, CG, cause my only worry is the tears of the disgruntled may flood the boat.
I guess I'm done with y'all for now.
Oh, and aren't you all proud of me? I didn't use dumbass one time in this entire post. Ooops.
Ray Lanier
Wow, 8:10 I write about 840 words and leave one out and you have a uber-idiotisch reaction. After reading through the week-end posts I just couldn't resist using that very often used term by American GI’s in Germany, and yes before you correct me I know Germany is English for Deutschland and their native language is Deutsche not German.
Anyway to my main point! In my response to your dumbest question I left out a very important word, which shows why it’s important to proofread and not get in a hurry when posting.
You stated, “would either of you (perhaps one and the same person) be willing to bet your life that the state will not withdraw supporting funds should Giles County decide by way of a charter to go it alone? Would you?”
I responded, “ A charter is an ^ authority or means for secession from the state. No one I know has any intention of doing that, it didn’t work out so well for us the last time it was tried. I tell you what just to show the absurdity of your claim and bet. I accept your bet, even though I’m surprised that a Christian Gentleman like you would be gambling for such high stakes”.
What I meant to type is, A charter is "NOT" an authority or means for secession from the state”.
The second sentence would have alerted any intelligent person, not looking for an opportunity to attack, that the sentence was meant to include “not”.
I guess after you saw my mistake you were overcome with excitement and couldn’t read the rest of what was written because even though I clearly accepted your bet you totally ignored it and asked in your 26 May 8:10 question, “Would you also be willing to bet your life that the state would suspend supporting fund to our county if we "seceeded' from them? Would you? Not me”.
I guess that makes you a reneger as well as enabler since you made a bet, I accepted it then you wimp out of it.
You started your rant with an untruth when you said, “How dare you in all your arrogance suppose that God will not hear my prayers. Oh, and I am certain he hears yours? What a joke.”
First of all I didn’t use any of my supposed arrogance in my statement nor did I say or suggest that God doesn't hear your prayers or anyone else’s prayers. Try reading the words instead of projecting your hatred. What I said was in response to your statement, “My prayer is that those like you are never "in charge" of things here in the county. Please notice the emphasis on the words "in charge".
My answer, "Based on your behavior and postings I have a great confidence that since God responds to the prayers of a righteous man, He will remain silent to your demands.“ Even you should be able to distinguish between “hear and respond” or be able to find someone to explain them to you.
Then you stated, “I NEVER said that one spouse is innocent when the other cheats. I happen to believe nobody is totally innocent in such circumstances, so stop lying”. So now you claim that if a spouse cheats on their partner the partner is really at fault? I suppose if a soldier comes back from the war paralyzed from the neck down and his wife develops a sexual relationship with another man that by your reasoning it’s the husbands fault because he got paralyzed. Man you are weird.
This is what you wrote, “It reminds me of the woman who is constantly accusing the husband of running around on her. That's usually a sign that she either is doing it herself or is thinking about it. In other words, the one doing the accusing is more than likely the one with the problem. Can you extrapolate and make the proper application?”
part One
Part Two
My answer: according you your little analogy if anyone suspects or states their spouse is cheating on them it is actually the one making the announcement who is cheating and the spouse is actually innocent by virtue of the accuser’s accusation. Hummm. Based on that seems like only those cheating are making announcements of cheating, isn’t that the same as a confession? So if a woman finds lipstick on her husband’s collar, he is staying out all night, he is seen with another woman entering a motel room and exiting some five hours later he’s not actually cheating..... the wife is. Sorry but I just can’t get my head wrapped around the absurdity that concept creates.” Let me put it in terms you may understand at least the words if not the concept, I-N-D-I-V-I-D-U-A-L-S A-R-E R-E-S-P-O-N-S-I-B-L-E F-O-R T-H-E-I-R I-N-D-I-V-I-D-U-A-L C-H-O-I-C-E-S.
One last thing, it doesn’t matter how many times you make a very generalized condemnation of wrong doing. As long as you continue to ignore the facts and condemn the specific behavior of individuals responsible for wrongdoing you are enabling that wrongdoing, period.
Mr.B, does that mean "super idiot" or a facsimile thereof?
wab
If you keep this up, I may have to tell something I know that you don't want to get out. Ok?
Stop lying that I am an enabler of wrongdoing.
Yes you did say God probably won't hear my prayers. Why lie about that?
You see one of those everytime you look in the mirror don't you Ray?
Blackmail, 3:52 ??? Now there's an activity that proves what kind of life you are trying to live. In case you couldn't tell, RABID, I've been following and posting for a long time, just to see if you could figure it out. You couldn't of course, but I see nothing has changed. I've just had a bellyfull of you pointing out other Christians faults and refusing to even consider you might be guilty of many of the same human failings. Haughtiness, arrogance, and self-righteousness is such an unattractive character trait and ironically I will use your own analogy against you. See if you can keep up. The spouse, according to you, making accusations of cheating, is usually the one actually guilty. The poster making the accusation of stirring up trouble or calling others a liar or whatever, is usually the one lying or stirring up trouble. If the shoe fits, wear it, Rabid.
Sincerely,
Deanna
Oh goodness, not the grouchy witch of the south again. I thought she had stuck to remaining anonymous. She is one of the two or three GC. Ray, I haven't been the one arguing with you but I would like to know where you got your degree from? Did you go to college? Just curious.
deanna
Who said anything about blackmail? I believe those were your words and not mine. And before you accuse me of making a threat, please let me assure you that you would also be mistaken about that as well. As smart as you claim to be, I'm surprised that you didn't get it.
Your analogy is wrong. Why? Because I am not a busybody and a troublemaker. My plea is that it stop, along with the proud look, the lying tongue, feet that are swift to mischief, a haughty spirit, etc. Do these descrivbbe anyone we both know? Be honest and say yes. There's a subtle difference you no doubt missed.
4:03, do ya feel better now? You got me. That was very cool. I don't even know what to say to that. I've been shut down. I may never be able to post again. That statement really made me think. I believe I'll be a different man from here on out. Golly gee whiz. That sure was smart. I wish I could think of stuff like that to say to folks. I don't know where you come up with clever remarks like that. You did that just off that top of your head, didn't you. Boy, I sure have been told. My goodness, I think I'll have to re-think my whole life now. Dang, I probably won't be able to sleep tonight. Thank you for making me a better person. That has got to help anyone reading this blog. You are an asset to the community. I bet your fun to hang out with. I know your folks must be proud of you. When I grow up I want to be just like you. Can I be your intern? Please teach me to be clever and witty just like you. I see now that you are the better man, so on and so forth.
4:32, I attended UBH for several years, when I was younger. I then went on to get my Computer Electronics Certification under the tutelage of Mr. William Callahan. No joking there, he's as fine a man as I have ever met. Extremely intelligent but still able to teach a big lug like me. Go ahead and make fun of me all you want, but don't make Mr.C pay for my bringing his name up in here. All this crap we do is beneath him.
Ray Lanier
Funny how you can't take it when someone makes a rediculous comment to you like you do to everyone else Ray. I want to see you defend the statements made earlier from the poster about Obama. I don't care if they came from inside a watermelon. Show us you can do more than call names and look up words in the dictionary.
What's in it for me, 7:14? If I do, will you teach me how to spell? What gave you the impression I couldn't "take it"? I'm still here, still signing my posts. You know what that's like, don...ooops, sorry.
I'll address the rest of the issues when The Hatfields and The McCoys go off. I figured I'd give y'all time to bitch about the parts I've already rebutted, first. See, you must have your priorities in order.
Ray Lanier
To Ray Lanier, You asked me a question but I must decline to answer. You see I am being blackmailed into silence. The threat of having the most horrific information ever released about a person has caused me to become severely depressed, I guess I would have committed suicide except my arrogance keeps me struggling on. That Christian Gentleman has terrorized me to the point I can't even write on this blog. My cat is currently taking dictation and posting this message. If I were not so traumatized by the Christian Gentleman I would have answered your question affirmatively and laughed with you but the threat by the Christian Gentleman does not enable me to respond. Greatly enjoyed your 7:02 post by the way.
wab
What makes you think this has anything to do with you? Your accusation that you are being blackmailed is another lie. Even if it were about you, what I said was in no way to be construed as blackmail. Why can't you just be truthful?
There you gop again trying to trivialize my being a Christian and a gentleman. Remember, it was YOU who demanded proof that I am not the enabler you lied about. You couldn't accept my being a Christian as suitable proof, and neither can you accept the fact that I believe whoever is guilty in the financial mess we are currently in should be punished.
Please don't start playing the victim role just because your friend deanna said you were being blackmailed. What a laugh on both of you.
wab
Nobody that I know of is asking you to be silent. All I ask you to do is STOP telling the lie that I am a willful supporter of wrongdoings. It's a lie, and you have been asked over and over to stop it.
Nobody is blackmailing you either. If it will make you feel any better, I will not be the one to say anything. You have my word. I realize that you are too proud to humble yourself and apologize, but please stop lying about me. Ok?
wab
You need to go back and read what I said. Just because I said I may have to tell something I know that you don't want to get out did NOT mean it was about you. Why are you so defensive about this anyhow that your would make nasty insults and call me a host of names? Why?
If you go back and read my post at 8:03, i think your cheeks should be burning with embarrassment.
All I ask you to do is stop lying.
To 3:52 who wrote, "wab If you keep this up, I may have to tell something I know that you don't want to get out. Ok? Stop lying that I am an enabler of wrongdoing." Posted Tuesday, May 29, 2012 3:52:00 PM
This is very similar to the threat you made on another topic recently.
This is how I answered that post,
"To the gossip that claims to have some unknown information about me.
Tell it Mr. Coward how can your innuendo be defended against. There is very little most people don't already know about me and there is nothing you can possibly know that will scare me into silence. It's been tried before by you and some that were obviously much smarter than you. The only thing I can be certain of is whatever you claim will be under the cowardly anonymous label that has characterized your cowardly absurdities from the beginning of your posting on this blog.
Let me add that you are a low life lying, gossip who has no integrity at all. If stupidity could fly your head would be an airport. How's that for a childish comment, ask some kindergarten child to explain it to you as you have demonstrated your lack of intelligence so often.
I suppose your feeble attempt at blackmail only enhances your elevated states as a self proclaimed Christian Gentleman, in your mind at least, but you might want to check with you pastor or editor for some advice about such low life activities.
I would not be surprised to learn as you sit creating your inane blabber that a bolt of lightening has struck and before you can even extract your head from that dark place you will feel the severity of your mocking cowardice.
It's not just that you are too cowardly to to sign your name to your lies you don't even have to backbone to follow through on your threats. You throw out a wild accusation in an attempt to intimidate me then try to show how benevolent and gracious you are by promising to not tell. You hypocritical mongrel dog. I'm not your victim and I dare you to
tell what you know, it should only take about one word and it's spelled NOTHING. You are right you are not blackmailing me because you have nothing I fear, you only are trying to blackmail me and it will not work.
I tell you what I will give $500.00 cash to anyone who can give me your name and prove that it is indeed you posting. Now rest on that.
wab
You know what? Accusing someone of blackmail is quite a charge, and I think you need to be very careful. The Lord knows I am not trying to blackmail you or anyone else for that matter. The ONLY thing I want from you is that you stop telling the lie that I willfully go along with wrongdoings. How many times do I have to ask you that?
Exactly what accusation did I make about you? I really want to know. You will NEVER find anywhere on this blog where I said I had a big story about YOU. Oh, I have something I could tell, but you jumped to the defensive and thought it was strictly about you. Such paranoia.
Just stop lying about me and we will be square.
You offer a reward for my name? Isn't that a threat in itself? Wow. I have done nothing wrong here and have just as much right to my opinions as you do. If not, then change the name of this blog to something else.
Sure sounded like black mail to me:
"wab
If you keep this up, I may have to tell something I know that you don't want to get out. Ok?"
Dang, sounds more like blackmail: "If it will make you feel any better, I will not be the one to say anything. You have my word."
Both post was addressed to "wab, so who else could it be to? Blackmail isn't always asking for money. Sounded like you had something to say WAB wouldn't like to be told and you would do it if he didn't quit lying about you. What I just said had nothing to do whether I thought WAB lied or didn't about you or anything about religion, just telling what it looked like to me you did.
I'm not Denna or WAB.
The CG lies and continues to lie; except in his feeble mind. Everyone is against him and he will continue to defend himself from his self-proclaimed enemies.
Poor ppor pittful CG
10:04
Then I respect both your honesty and your criticisms. Deanna is the one who suggested blackmail and barrett fell right in there accusing me of that. So much for independent thinking...that is, unless barrett and deanna are one and the same person. I don't know.
to mal
I knew you wouldn't be far behind all this with your smart and agitating remarks.
Self-proclaimed enemies? Aren't you one of them?
Now, as for the real liar and whiner, I must oncve again sugghest that you go have a look in your mirror.
barrett
You know what? I went to bed very very angry with you last night. But I woke up this morning with a new perspective. I realized that I am better than this.
I have decided that people like you, deanna, and mal are just not worth my time anymore. It can be better spent working against the charter and people like Bill Haslam, Jim Somerville, and of course Barrack Obama.
I hate to leave this so-called "free speech" blog, because I always took pride in standing up to bullies. But when you offered a reward for my head on a silver platter, I knew that you are far more dangerous than I had imagined. I don't fear you or the rest of your buddies, but I am wise ebnough to see a potential for harm to my family if I don't go away. So, in a sense, you win, but we all have an appointment before the judgement seat of God. Don't forget that. Perhaps then you will humble yourself and apologize for ther lie you told on me that I go along with wrongdoings.
In signing off, please allow me to elaborate on what I think of you. To be honest, not much. I have absolutely NO respect for you and honestly believe that you are an evil man who will stop at nothing to achieve whatever goals you have in mind. I also think you are one of the worst hypocrites I have ever seen in my entire life. It is my opinion that you are the classic egotist and narcissist. Lastly, I don't see how those closest to you can stand being around you.
Ok. That's pretty much it. Although you finally bullied me into silence, rest assured that I will be watching what goes on here in our county.
Yipeeeeee - 'It" is leaving the blog! (If you believe that you will believe anything)
The only reason IT says IT is leaving is because WAB may reveal who that poster is and they are too scared to face the music.
Party today at the courthouse gazebo, 2 p.m. - 5 p.m. BYOB
7:17
Glad to see you are going especially when I told you I will sign my posts so you will not confuse them with any one else. But you are too stupid to understand plain English. I have enjoyed standing up to you and your bully tactics and like the spoiled little brat you are when you get some of your own medicine you tuck your tail and run. Good riddance to you bigoted stupidity.
Sincerely,
CG still whining & crying
Well if I never read about "apologize for the lie" an defeat charter, bla,bla, bla, again it'll be too soon. Only one thing....since you were anonymous, how would we know if you left? Prob just post under another anonymous tag. Oh well, a leopard can't change it's spots so if the derailing logic appears- well know. V
If you could post about the subject -you'd have had less problems anyway.
7:15
I didn't get to check the blog until late yesterday and formed my opinion about blackmail as I read what you said and started my reply, before entering my post I went up and read on down. After reading what Denna and Barrett said, I went back and added I wasn't them to my post.
I was surprise because you have always worded what you said so carefully so as not get caught like that.
I see you have said you are leaving the blog haven't you said that before? It will be awful hard to leave it if you continue to read it want it? I'll sign 10:04 PM Tuesday.
Thanks Mr.B, or Mr.B's cat, which ever is reading today. I think I got my answer.
To everyone else: man! That was exciting as all get out, wasn't it? I'm serious, I couldn't take my eyes off the screen. Dang. I can't wait to see what happens next. Peace y'all.
Ray Lanier
I guess you being a moron is never going to change Ray. Have fun at the bottom.
5:58, I'm sure my stay at the bottom won't be too uncomfortable, as I will be resting on you. I will always be batter than you and I have never said that about anyone. You consistantly fail to make any sense.
Ray Lanier
Batter than me? Are you trying to use that big brain to make a baseball reference that you are a better batter than me? You are such a genius that you are adding simplified words to the dictionary. I think you deserve a gold star and an extra glass of kool-aid today Ray. You have failed to make sense since you started your childish postings on this blog. You have worked hard to earn the title of Moron.
7:549 Hi Enabler. Knew you wouldnt be able to stay away. You are too obssessed.
Way to go, Ray!
9:34, I knew it wouldn't take long. The "kook" aid reference sealed the deal. Incidently, 7:49, that was a combination of the words "better" and "badder". I could get so much more done if I didn't have to take the time to explain wordplay to you. My daughter would have gotten that right away. I could get her to tutor you, if you think it would help. She's going into the 3rd grade so she should have plenty of time, dumbass. HAHAHAHAHA
Ray Lanier
I was going to use "bedder", but knowing your proclivity for little boys, I was afraid you would take it the wrong way. You know you can join a support group for that, don't you 7:49?
Ray Lanier
I didn't mean to leave without saying bye, but a pain hit me. I had to go take a 7 and wipe my 49. So now, bye y'all.
Ray Lanier
Ray, you are vulgar, obnoxious and extremely unprofessional. I hope you aren't passing those traits down to your children. I can't believe an adult would act like such an embicile.
I assure you I would never dream of acting like an embicile. You mean that you didn't find that the least bit amusing? Come on, I thought it was a little funny, anyway. While normally I would draw attention to the mis-spellings of anyone who called me vulgar, obnoxious and extremely unprofessional, in this instance I have to assume that it was either on purpose or merely a typo. I find it difficult to believe that anyone who follows the AP Styleguide's approved use of seriel commas would not know how to spell imbecile. Good job, I hardly ever see that on here. And it was a little funny, just a little.
Ray Lanier
I'm really not being sarcastic, I'm impressed.
Hey, Mr.B. I may have missed the window of opportunity to claim the $500 bucks, but if you would give me permission to access your computer remotely, I can at least tell you if it was the same poster and where he lives. With his address in hand, it shouldn't be too difficult to find out his name. Let me know.
Ray Lanier
Ray Lanier to 5:58/7:49, that's two. Post 1 more by tomorrow and I'll have enough for your address. Ain't modern technology wonderful. It doesn't have to be anything clever, just call me a name, give me some advice or just leave it blank. As long as it's a post from you on the computer you usually use, that will be fine. Thanks a lot.
Ray Lanier
Don't think those in office can't be jailed.
Read WKSR on the web in case you missed hearing it on the radio.
WKSR:
Former Hawkins County Judge Indicted In Davidson County
Posted on May 31, 2012
FORMER HAWKINS COUNTY GENERAL SESSIONS COURT JUDGE
INDICTED IN DAVIDSON COUNTY
How long does it take to find out about this finical mess? Is anyone really looking?
Will they tell the tax payers when the find out?
Forever
No
No
Off the topic, but when will the McAlister defamation trial be coming up? Does anybody know?
8:24 Ask cg he thinks he knows everything.
9:01
Your obsession with me makes you look really strange. You and mal (perhaps the same person) seem to be allowing your precoccupation with me to drive you both nuts. Perhaps the two of you (sic)could join barrett and a few others for group therapy. I even have a great sessions topic. What about "How to Deal with Resentment and Jealousy? Very appropo, I'd say.
That's OK CG because your continue to lie and whine. By your own words you are a whinner and liar. Just look at other blogs where you are made to look like the fool you are.
Yes you have the right to voice your opinion. And, we have the right to voice ours. You are a whinner and a liar (proven by your own words).
3:43 cg I have no jealousy or resentment. Never ran for office or wanted to. Just want let you get away with anything. Sure burns you up that anyone would come back at you doesn't it.
I thought this bog was for discussions, but you want let it be.
Is destroy the messenger your motto?
I'm from the south where we call everyone honey or darling. Born and raised in Giles County. So have a good night honey.
Seriously, did y'all notice, for the short while cg was just reading and not posting his usual crap, how the comments stayed on topic? It's a completely different blog when he derails the point, which is his intention, looks like.
I still think the three of you (perhaps only two) should join an
encounter group. Something obviously needs to be addressed.
The thing that concernes me is your almost Freudian preoccupation with me. That's strange.
I too thought a blog was for discussion. However, with this one, an indiidual is treated just as you do me if he or she has a dissenting opinion. Either respect free speech and opposing opinions or start a petition to get the name of this blog changed. I'll sign it.
When anyone says something against the poster but not the subject they can expect a come back. Seems like that is what cg has always done to get the topic changed about him.
I want to ask all to please ignore cg. You are making him think he is important. Just take what he post with a grain of salt and move on.
Born in Giles County as were my parents.
9:14
Well, here you are again spewing and fuming. You really need a job.
No, I am but a small man in the scheme of things, and have no problem with that. But I am important to those who love me.
You ask that everyone ignore me? What a laugh. Why don't you set the example and ignore me then?
Who asked you where you and your parents were born? Aren't you getting off the topic and onto yourself and your importance? Again, what a laugh.
10:37 Don't you also need a job. I noticed a lot of spewing and fuming from you.
I took it 9:14 was telling they were from Giles County since you've posted several times something about the people from up north being the trouble makers. What ever they meant I'm glad to see one Giles County person disagrees with you.
By the way at 81 I'm retired, hope that ok with cg.
1:17
Now I think I know who you are...not that it matters. If I'm right, I'm disappointed, but I'll never mention it to you. I was always impressed with your good business sense and outlook on life. And when your wife passed away, it hurt me too. I hope I'm wrong, and you are not who I think you are.
And I NEVER said that all of the troublemakers are from up North. In fact, I've seen others besides myself say the same or worse about them. No, the main ones are out-of-towners who think they are smarter thn we are to begin with. The arrogance of that thinking should make you angry as well.
Ok 9:14, let's give it a try. It doesn't take but a sentence or two to know when it's cg posting. I'll refrain from taking his bait, as so should we all. I think we can stay on topic if we just ignore his posts altogether. Let's see.
Who is "we"? Please allow me to translate what you said. You guys can call people names and make all sorts of derogatory remarks about those of your choosing if I will not challenge it.
The post was not in another language, therefore it does not require translating. That's been your problem all along, cg. You translate the posts into what you want them to be instead of what they really say. Try just reading them and absorbing the content instead of changing them to fit your idea of what they should say. Glance back at the above post.I believe you'll not find any name calling or derogatory remarks anywhere in the post. That in itself is an example of how you "translate".
4:43
Wrong. I just read between the lines. I never said derogatory names were used in that post. You said that...not me.
Wrong, liar. Per your 3:04pm post: "You guys can call people names and make all sorts of derogatory remarks about those of your choosing if I will not challenge it." You said that, not me.
1:06
You really need a hobby. or job. What about doing some volunteer work?
I stand by what I said. I was just translating what was originally said. You guys will get away with this mess if someone isn't here to challenge you. And that is why I am so despised on this blog. Good!
7:08 I found your post funny. I don't see your challenging post stopping anyone. They keep posting what ever they want to except when coming back at you.
7:08, does it ever bother you to never be right? I have several people that I check on weekly to make sure they are alright. I also run errands and carry the elderly to drs appointments because they don't drive. You, however, can walk if you need to go somewhere. In addition to that, I also have a job and on occasion I feed stray dogs and cats just for the hell of it. Ouch, burns don't it? What else ya got? That's what I thought.
8:13
And I will keep challenging their name-calling and attempts to destroy others they dislike as long as thr Lord gives me the ability.
10:33
What on earth are you talking about? Perhaps you've been out in the sun too long today. Oh, what the hay, have a refreshing glass of Kool-Aid and relax.
You deserve a humanitatian award for your good deeds.
Dingleberry at 4:14, I was responding to your 7:08 suggestion that I do some volunteer work. I think it both sad and funny that all you can do is come back with your silly-ass kool-aid remark when faced with a reply you cannot refute. You asked a question and I answered it. Does that kind of logic really confuse you? I feel so sorry for you and your family that I can't even find the words to express the depth of my sorrow. What a dickweed you are. I'm done with you, you're just a sad, old man that cannot even keep his comments straight in his own mind. Goodbye, cranky geezer. I do what I do because it's the right thing, not because I care what some demented old fart like you thinks of me.
5:32
Promises, promises. I hope you never respond to me again. Stop drinking the hate and envy kool-aid and perhaps yopu will begin to gfeel better about yourself and your fellow man. By the way, I pray that you will be blessed as I have been to live long enough to become a demented older person. So don't pity me; my life is blessed, and I am happy.
How long do you have to live in Giles Co. before you are no longer considered an out of towner? Also a couple of other questions:In a post dated June 25, on one thread, the enabler accused the anonymous poster of being WAB and on the same day in another thread, he denied accusing anonymous posters of being WAB. Does that make him a liar? He has accused me of having an idol in the form of WAB so that is another lie from the one who says he doesn't lie. He also has accused me of being a follower of WAB which is another lie. So is the enabler a liar? One more question. Does anyone but me find it ironic that the enabler frequently says, "are there any issues that you want to discuss?" But when someone asks a question or comments on an issue, he is the first to change the subject to how "mistreated" the officials are by WAB and his "followers." Can anyone clear up my confusion and answer my questions?
No 11:06, I believe you pretty well summed it up. cg is an enabler and a liar who contradicts himself so much he can't even keep his own stories straight. You just pointed out four of many,many examples. Just try to ignore him. It's not easy, but it's for the best. You can't break through that rock hard ignorance of his, there's no sense in trying.
11:06 (12:56)
You seem so obsessed with me that it appears you are having difficulty sleeping.
First of all, enabler is a lie allen barrett told on me. I have proven that, and yet, he is too proud to admit he lied and apologize.
Secondly, I have at times stated that I think he posts anonymously. You lied. For all I know, you may be referring to a specific post wherein I may or may not have said I thought it was barrett posting anonymously. Who knows and who cares? I have seen several posts on here wherein he was accused of posting anonymously, and I didn't make them. Please stop lying. This is incredibly asinine.
You asked that someone please help clear up your confusion. I've got a solution for you. Stop listening to the troublemakers and try to work toward the betterment of Giles County instead of making it a laughing stock.
The enabler is paranoid. His little "two or three at most" theory of those who dislike dishonesty and unethical behavior has been disproven so many times he has to in his little mind believe that the same people are posting over and over. My question from my ONE post last night remains: How long do you have to live in Giles County before you are no longer considered an out-of towner?
I have read your "proof" that you are not an "enabler" many times and it is plain out laughable. The only thing you have proven, with facts, beyond a shadow of a doubt is that you are indeed an enabler, a liar and rather stupid.
cg always wants to tell how many votes Barrett got beat by, but didn't he get more than 2 or 3 votes in 7th District. I don't live in the 7th District. Not saying I would of voted for Barrett just saying cg's not as smart as he thinks he is.
I think Barrett can do more for Giles County watching what the commissioners are doing.
10:47, 11:15, 11:24
You really need to take more breaks between posts. By the way, did you lie or just change your mind when you said yopu were not going to respond tomy posts anymore?
The very fact alone that I said those guilty for our financial mess should be punished prooves that I will never go along with something I believe to be wrong. What is it about that statement that you refuse to understand? Oh, I think you understand it, but you would rather ignore it so you can have a basis for attacking me. It's a lie, and you know it. And you have the audacity to call em stupid? Go look in the mirror.
I guess cg must stand for "confused gentleman" as he obviously thinks one person made all three posts above.
I'm responding to yalls posts, not his, as I promised. Keep up the good work, guys.
1:25
No, that would be Christian gentleman. By the way, Christian should be capitalized. If I referred to myself as a follower of Christ, would you spell His name beginning with a lower case letter?
1:58 I learned in school all names were capitalized. You don't do that so why can't anyone else do it.
I had been thinking cg was loosing it. Then I looked again at 1:25's post I didn't see the word Christian in it.
1:25 You can post back to me anytime for entertainment.
2:39
I would always capitalize Christ's name as well as Christian, but there's a difference. I don't capitalize certain people's names, and that's my right as an American.
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