Why Did The Economic Development Commission Spend Over $22,000.00 More Than Their Income
For the period of 4 December 2013 thru 21 January 2014, a period of less than two months, the Economic Development Commission reported that they had income of $47,433.33 while having expenses of $69,725.16 a difference of $22,291.37.
It's not often that a new year could start over $22,000.00 in the hole and expect to stay in business but what's to worry about when you can just go and take more tax money or utility money and toss it in the pot to pay for such things as $8687 for the director's salary; $171.00 for internet; $1900.00 for health insurance; $392.00 for meals and entertaining; $500.00 for professional training; $521.00 for retirement or $253.00 for telephones. Keep in mind these are expenses for less than a two month period.
.
It's not often that a new year could start over $22,000.00 in the hole and expect to stay in business but what's to worry about when you can just go and take more tax money or utility money and toss it in the pot to pay for such things as $8687 for the director's salary; $171.00 for internet; $1900.00 for health insurance; $392.00 for meals and entertaining; $500.00 for professional training; $521.00 for retirement or $253.00 for telephones. Keep in mind these are expenses for less than a two month period.
.
posted by Allen Barrett | 6:37 PM
480 Comments:
Double check the numbers on this. 89,725.16 -47,433.33= 42,291.83
Is this including any legal fees for the lawsuit or is that run under a different ledger?
Why do they do this?.....because they can and no one will do anything about it. They're all vested in keeping things rolling as they have it.....in a word ----"control"
Thanks 7:33 hit the 8 instead of the 6.
For those who don't get the "Pulaski Citizen" newspaper.
It was reported in this week's edition that the City Council decided to withhold the city's monthly appropriations of $3,600.00 to the Industrial Development Board (IDB). This was apparently done in reaction to the IDB not turning over copies of the recent audit of the IDB to the city.
I say, it's about time someone in authority stood up for the taxpayer and challenge the bully tactics of this Board I can only hope that the county will follow the city's lead in this and stop all funding until the IDB/EDC starts acting like a part of the city/county instead of an independent, unquenchable and uncontrolled private agency of Mr Dan Speer and Mr David Rackley.
Mr. Barrett...
Here's what I think about your attacks on Dan Speer and David Rackley. I really think you are grandstanding for votes to be elected as a commissioner. That's how it looks to me. Oh, and with Mrs. Goolsby (a lady of utmost integrity)running as well, your chances of becoming a commissioner just grew slimmer.
As for2 standing up fo2r the taxpayer, are you suggesting that Mr. Speer and Mr. Rackley are doing something shady?
My goodness cg, do you NOT think they are doing something shady? I knew you had vendetta issues but I didn't think you were naive.
Who is Mrs. Goolsby? I didn't see her name in the paper. I take it from your post she is running for 7th District commissioner.
12:19
Her name was in the paper. You must have missed it.
Shelly is a wonderful person who will be a strong contender. And what's more important, those who would rather see her defeated in favor of another candidate will not be able to dig up anything on her, try as they might...and probably will.
Seeing a name in the paper means nothing. Who is she? What has she done? where does she work?
I'm not against her, just wanted to know something about her.
I don't vote for people just because Barrett or Cg is for them or against them.
I'm not looking for dirt on her. Was she raised in Giles county?
Why are people ignoring the topic and writing about everything but what's happening with the IDB. If what Mr Barrett has written is true then there is a big problem with that program and it's being covered up.
My predictions for District 7 winners are as follows as in order of votes received:
Terry Harwell
Shelly Goolsby
Vickie Coleman
So you think the double dipping Harwell who can't even vote on financial matters and the phone lady who lied about her job not preventing her from attending meetings and hasn't made a vote without Campbell telling her how and a teacher that will not be able to even attend meetings will represent the 7th district. If this happens the 7th district will get just what they ask for NOTHING in the way of representation. Can you say twenty five cents increase on property taxes and big sticker for your cars and trucks.
I fail to understand how anyone in this county can be satisfied and back the job that Mr. Spreer or Mr. Rackley is doing. They sure aren't doing anything to grow the county. The least they should be doing is being straight forward with the people of the county.
8:00. Yes, and those are three that I will be out working for. Thank you.
That figures enabler since they and you have contributed about the same to the county a big ZERO.
Those three allowed Jackson tot nearly break the school system and not a peep from either of them, sure they talked big away when with their cronies but not a word to change the situation. Same thing with Loretta Garner they sat and watched her incompetence talked behind her back but did nothing but support her when it came time to vote.
8:00--How do you know who can amke a meeting and who cannot? When did you start to dictate who can make a meeting? If you can make all the meetings, why aren't you running for office in the 7th district?
Friday, February 21, 2014 6:07:00 AM
So you think Tommy Campbell is on his way out!
10:49
I think Tommy wants to be out now that Mrs. Goolsby has stepped forward. That's my opinion. So, I will work my fanny off for Harwell, Goolsby, and Coleman.
Readers:
Can you not see where all this attention given to the 7th District commissioner race is headed and who this is really all about? It's the same old story and approach that failed in the last election.
All three of the present 7th District commissioners have been sniped at, and even a couple of somewhat negative remarks about Mrs. Goolsby have been made. Sad.
Where are those negative remarks about Mrs Goolsby 5:01. Asking a simple question is not a negative remark about someone but in your delusional empty head saying a person has beautiful green eyes is considered a negative because you happen to have blue eyes. You really need to get some different medication what you're taking now isn't working.
I don't know Mrs Goolsby from Davy Crockett but I do want to know that I will be represented better than I have.
7:32
I think suggesting that Mrs. Goolsby might not be able to attend meetings is a clever and subtle way of sowing seeds of doubt in the minds of those who would otherwise vote for her. She is a class act and will be one of the District 7 winners.
You are a sick person 7:43. There was no suggestion about anything but a simple question about her time management. If you are a friend of her's then I'm beginning to have doubts about her character you know birds of a feather.Trying to be fair to her I will not believe you are really a friend of her's until she says so.
Good post 8:47.
What CG or WAB says about a candidate don't hold water to me. I like to know something about the person myself.
I think we should ask Tommy Campbell why he is running if he really don't want the job any more.
11:12 Good work on working you fanny off.
9:42
Thanks for the encouragement. I will work diligently for the candidates of MY choice.
By the way, who said Tommy didn't want to run? That was simply speculation. He didn't say that.
6:28
Anonymous said...
10:49
I think Tommy wants to be out now that Mrs. Goolsby has stepped forward. That's my opinion. So, I will work my fanny off for Harwell, Goolsby, and Coleman.
Friday, February 21, 2014 11:12:00 PM
Was that you?
8:01
What difference does it make? It was only an opinion or speculation.
Yep Cg what difference does it make?
What difference does it make the Republican party of Giles county didn't ask you to their meeting.
You left Tommy out as one you was going to vote for.
I've heard he's sick. is that true?
I hope he's not sick. Giles county needs him.
8:54
That so-called "meeting" was NOT announced and was NOT published in the paper. That stinks. I wouldn't have gone had they actually had one! The Democrats are at least above board on that.
When taxpayers fully realize that it IS the Republican Party (if you can count two or three people as a party) who cost them several thousand dollars for a needless primary, don't look for them to be sympathetic. They will be angry, and that is not good for the future of the Republican Party.
I left the Republican Party sometime ago because of the things I saw them doing around here. The Democratic Party here is are least out in the open about what they do. I have to respect that.
I would not vote for any local Republicans.
Lawrence County has had a primary for years. this isn't something someone in Giles county dreamed up.
When it comes to voting for the president, congress or senate, I want let what a few so called Republicans or Democrat's in Giles County think cause me to not to vote for who I think is best.
Giles county can't influence them in anyway. Vicki Harwell got to go to the Democrat convention a few years ago. Do you think she influenced anything?
Not picking on Vicki, just don't know of any Republican that got to go to the Republican convention.
I'm sure someone has been, I just don't know who they were.
8:24 I'm glad to hear you are proud of Obama.
Read this is be a Democrat.
http://tellmenow.com/welfare-mom-brags-about-stealing-tax-payer-money/
The women told the radio host, “Can you really blame us?? The caller, Lucy, goes on to claim that while her husband works part-time, he doesn’t really work that much because “he doesn’t see the need for it.”
Lucy went on to say that people like her and “illegal immigrants” she knows who don’t “contribute to society” still get paid and our checks are going to come on time. She even makes the claim that government is delivering presents for her kids on Christmas. I was not actually aware of that particular perk that welfare offers.
To 9:35 you are such a sad little person. Every meting of the republican party in Giles County by their by-laws has been announced well in advance of their meetings which are open to the public regardless of what party you belong too, period. The democrat party makes it very clear, in their announcements of a party meeting, that only democrats are invited to attend. How's that for openness?
There is no requirement for the executive committee of the republican party to announce their meetings as they are open for only those on the executive committee. It's the difference in having a stockholders meeting of some company and having a board meeting of that company.
It's sad that you continue to attack republican and anyone else that you disagree with while having an extremely low understanding of what you are attacking.I guess that's where the term "low information voter" comes from. It's hard to understand how you would move from a party because "you claim" they held secret meetings, which they did not, and move to a party that supports gay marriage, government funded abortions of convenience, amnesty for people who violated the law and broke into this country, welfare over work and unlimited national debt. Seems to me that if you really had a concern regardless of what it might be you would do all in your power to change that, but then that would take courage on your part and require you to stop whining and take personal responsibility.
What's happening about the new hotel?
9:33
Sad little person you say? Why? Let me answer that for you. It's because I see what your "executive" committee is doing and strongly disagree with your tactics as well as the fact that this ridiculous primary is costing taxpayers thousands of dollars. For what? What does the fact that Lawrence County has one have to do with our taxpayer dollars?
There may not be a "requirement" that you two or three notify other Republicans, but it just seems the honorable thing to do. At least let them know that the "executive" committee is going to meet. Would that seem more ethical than what took place?
By the way, why is it that you people just love to belittle and call names anytime someone disagrees with you? Seems to me that if you had a real concern for your "misguided" Democratic friends, you would try to enlighten them instead of beat them over the head with your views.
Lastly, you stated that I left the Republican Party. Wrong. I wasn't in it, and have no desire to be a part of what I perceive to be arrogance and bigotry. And you wonder why ordinary people will not vote for your candidates?
The hotel was the same tale told each year at funding time then after they get the money all the big plans sort of just vanish. Look at the pattern over the past several years and please don't try to use Manetti that was the state that brought that here. Why do you think the audit is being kept from the city council and county commission?
1:21 Are you saying you didn't post this? If not that goes to show you haw people should have a number or something to tell one person from another. You got the blame for this post.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I left the Republican Party sometime ago because of the things I saw them doing around here. The Democratic Party here is are least out in the open about what they do. I have to respect that.
I would not vote for any local Republicans.
Sunday, February 23, 2014 8:24:00 AM
Hasn't dined it so guess he did.
No and he don't comment when he gets caught.
Looks like the EDC/IDB over spent by $10,000.00 last month. I guess the way some look at it, that's a saving of over twenty thousand dollars from January over spending by thirty thousand dollars. Guess it don't matter how much you spend when you can just go back to the money tree (taxpayer).
Mr. Barrett
Isn't that what happened with the multi-thousand dollar Republican Primary...the taxpayer money tree?
If not, then how is that any different?
country gentleman was Barrett for this Republican election? I thought I read where he spoke against it.
I spoke out firmly against the Republican Primary and the expense to the county. I was complimentary to Mrs Bassham for her insight in securing the money a year in advance.
I was strongly opposed and I expressed my opposition but when the county chose to have the primary I as a very strong conservative chose to run as a republican choosing not to be associated with the baby killing tax and spend democrats many of whom are to cowardly to admit they are democrats choosing instead to run as independents even while serving or having served as officials in the democrat party.
So you were against it before you were for it? HAHAHAHA
Mr. Barrett....You just alienated another large group of people in your 4:27 post by attacking and name-calling Democratic candidates and those who didn't fall for running in the so-called "primary". Besides, there wasn't a Democratic Primary anyhow.
Do you have any figures on what this Republican Primary is going to cost state-wide? I think it will be a tremendous waste of taxpayer dollars, and voters are going to remember which party caused this wasteful spending. I though Republicans were all about conservation? You can be assured that the Democratic Party will make that a strong point during elections. I've heard people say this will destroy what's left of the party.
6:16 Good to know you think President Obama is right in everything he does.
6:16
http://www.ijreview.com/2014/02/117978-meet-rasmieh-obamacare-navigator-also-convicted-palestinian-terrorist/
I think that there should be a thread on how much our local banks are ripping us of. From the tiny amount that they pay us in interest to how much they pay their board members and officers, it is ridiculous!
7:43
I read the 6:16 entry, and it doesn't appear that any mention was made about President Obama.
6:05 Do you change your clocks twice a year to comply with daylight savings time regardless of how you feel about it?
Do you pay your electric bill each month regardless of how you feel about the cost?
Do you support the American Soldier regardless of how you feel about the war?
Have you been wearing a coat outside regardless of whether you like the cold or not?
There are many things we dislike, oppose, even hate but we comply with them and try to make the best of the situation when it's accepted as a fact of life.
Barrett and many others oppose the primary but the fact of life is it's here so what difference does it make if you take part in it? If a person said they were opposed to something then voted for it I would agree with your comment but there are simply many things that we oppose but take part in. There's a 4 way stop sign I have to go through on my way to work. In over nine years I have yet to see another car at that intersection when I've been there but I still stop.
8:17 When cg sees Barrett's name it's like waving a red flag in front of an angry bull. Makes me wonder why he feels like he does about Barrett. CG has to be afraid Barrett will come up with something he doesn't want told or stole his girlfriend away from him when young and just can't get over it.
Don't you mean, stole his Boyfriend ?
1:23 I hate to be like you and say "I hope he sues you", but can't help but think it.
Ok who ever said they knew who cg is, time to step up to the plate.
The one you so eagerly refer to as the cg is not the one who is making those posts.
People keep bringing up the idea of suing Barrett for telling about commissioners who went bankrupt how can you sue somebody for talking about public information.
Barrett apparently goes through the records and come up with all sorts of information, my question is why is it that Barrett seems to be the only one doing that. Shouldn't the news media be looking into the background of candidates including Barrett. How do you know what people are like are doing if you don't check them out. They was telling on the news today about a convicted terrorist that bombed and killed a bunch of people in Israel who is no in this country working for the government as a obamacare navigator. People who are making important decisions for uys need to be checked out a lot better than they are.
And I'm St Nick. lol
9:07 I'd be suspicious of a guy who spends all his time hanging out with elves in an isolated place.
I was told that the EDC overspent by $10,000.00 last month, That's over 30,000 in just two months and still they refuse to reveal the audit findings.
11:55 Sorry you didn't get the comment. Cg denies being the one posting some of the post.
Are you CG?
11:55
Good one! haha Anybody who disagrees with that guy is called a CG. He needs to get a life!!
Who needs to get a life beside you?
No 7:20, anyone who makes posts filled with baseless innuendo in order to try and discredit Barrett is called a cg. Just can't get your facts straight, can you?
Cg doesn't know how to do anything but attack WAB. Has anyone ever seen a post where he even tried to prove WAB was wrong in what he said?
No, you people call anyone a name who doesn't go along with you. This is especially true for anyone who has the audacity to differ with someone like Allen Barrett. Oh Heaven forbid that anyone be at odds with him!
5:15 do you think there is a problem with the EDC/IDB overspending by over thirty thousand dollars in two months, being covered up with lawsuits because of underhanded leadership?
6:21
I'm not sure. But one thing I do know is that I did not appreciate the twenty thousand plus dollars foolishly spent on a Republican Primary that has only four local candidates on it. It was put forth by two or three people, and that seemed a bit underhanded to me. Just my opinion.
Just shows what your opinion is worth. You have a problem with 20,00 being spent on an election but have no problem with 30,000 being over spent. The regular budget is over 100,000 a year of taxpayer money and they have only two employes with over 300 for phones each month.
6:42 Are you still trying to say WAB is the cause of the Republican election? That and the EDC/IDB money shouldn't of been spent.
But you don't care about anything bu attacking Barrett. I don't know him. He may be the sorriest person in the world for all I know, but as long as you attack, I'll attack you. I bet half these people coming back at you are like me don't know the man just don't like the way you post about him.
I'm a county commissioner, whatch gona do about it?
Watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-87Zp7HEmys
10:27
Who said Barrett was the cause of the Republican Primary? All I know is that he (unlike John Kerry) was against it before he was for it. As for the multitudes of people on here who attack me because I keep reminding them that this war against 7th District commissioner candidates needs to stop, I would guess there may be as many as two or three. That would be you, perhaps one more, and very likely Mr. Barrett or a very close member of his family posting anonymously at times. I've never seen such a level of resentment and hatred in this county. It's just sad that there are those who have no scruples when it comes to getting something they want, be it by honorable or dishonorable means.
This thread is about the overspending of the EDC/IDB.
6:25 when are you going to comment on the fact that the EDC/IDB is overspending and wasting tax money at an alarming rate?
Put your attacks on Barrett under the election thread and try to focus on something else for a moment because I for one would like to know what you think about the EDC/IDB overspending 30 thousand dollars in two months and spending no telling what on the big lawsuit against them.
7:52
Could it be that I don't agree with you? That makes me wrong, of course. I forgot.
8:08 So you still can't say the over spending was wrong. What a shame everyone doesn't agree with you.
I would like to know what they did to overspend.
Talk about the war in Giles County, you are the ring leader.
Where did I in 10:27 say anything about the Republican party? I'm not 10::22. They are close together. So is 7:52 and 8:08, were they both you? I guess they are and you have proved what I've been thinking, you will post both sides so you can post.
8:24
Wrong. I just think this smearing and belittling campaign needs to stop right now. That is ALL I am saying. I'm not calling anybody names or making false accusations.
You won't get an answer, 8:24. 8:30 is consumed by his obsession for Barrett and it bleeds over into every comment he makes on every thread. We should pity him because I truly believe he can't help it.
Good old Republican strategy!!
8:30 Why don't you stop then?
February 27, 2014 7:55:00 PM, I'm curious as to what point you're trying to make with the link you posted. Are you implying that Democrats in general, or perhaps Obama in particular, knew of this person's history? If so, perhaps you should read the whole story and not just the headline. The FBI's (many of who are Republicans)background check revealed nothing about this woman's attack. Straw grasper, aint'cha?
The FBI like the IRS, EPA, HEW and many other government agencies have become so politicized that they can no longer be trusted to do anything other than the will of the president and his flunkies.
So you're saying they falsified the results of the background check? You seem to be reaching a bit. I'm sure if there were something to find, Fox news would have pounced on it like a duck on a junebug. Or maybe Fox is in the President's pocket as well. I bet you say another shooter on the grassy knoll, didn't you?
It wouldn't be the first time 1:02. If all the corruption in this administration and the cover ups the only thing beyond their reach is honesty.
Did you all see Cheri Thomas' letter to the editor in today's paper? She is right on target. The Republican primary is going to needlessly cost the taxpayers of Giles County close to twenty-five thousand dollars. The voters should remember that the Republicans are behind this and vote against every single one of them who have the R designation beside their names. And they claim to be the party of conservatism?
5:16
Pretty hypocritical if you ask me.
How many other counties are having a Republican primary? I know Lawrence has for years, but don't know about the others. Wouldn't know about Giles if it wasn't for all this bitching on the blog, but it's alright for Speer to over spend.
I hope some of these people running in Giles county aren't Democrats, just didn't want to say Republican because they knew there would be fussing.
A former Democrat.
They are too damn ashamed to say they are democrats and one of the obama worshipers, There are a lot of counties that have primarys and even more that will have in the next election.
Lawrence County has had both Democrat and Republican primaries forever and a day. And more counties may join if there are "executive committees" in them who insist and force this needless expenditure of taxpayer funds. Partisan politics has no place in county offices. And, for an example, the fee for registering a newly-purchased car is not going to change, and being a Democrat or a Republican is not going to affect that one way or the other due to state auditing. More than that, wheel tax referendums and things of that nature are subject to a vote of the people.
My question remains. What difference does it make whether one is a Democrat or a Republican in county offices? For an elected official such as a register of deeds, why is that person's party affiliation anybody's business?
It's not, and yet two or three people have pushed forward a $25,000 expenditure on taxpayers which is already an embarrassment. I believe this is Tea Party based and will kill what's left of the GOP in Giles County.
Stuff like that isn't limited to the Democrats, 2:25. Remember when bush substituted his people for reporters in a disaster news conference? None of the bastards in government are very honest.
Maybe it's not so important that the Register of Deeds be identified by party but there are a number of other offices that are very important to know which party and ideology they support. For instance I want to know if the District Attorney is a supporter of Eric Holder and Barack Obama or will they follow the law regardless of who is involved. I want to know which party the judges are affiliated with. I want to know which party the county Executive belongs to as that gives a good indication of their attitude toward fiscal responsibilities.
Now as for the other offices I want to know which party they are part of because I would never want to support anyone who believes in killing babies, taking away our firearms, support amnesty for illegals, allow the president to act like a king, nationalize private industry, spend far beyond income putting our debt on others, gut our military, use the federal government to enforce violations of our Constitutional Rights, Etc, Etc.
You see any one who belongs to a party becomes a supporter of their stated beliefs and actions. While many claim to be democrats most have no clue about what their party has come to stand for. Example: Planned Parenthood was started by an incredible racist worse than any klan member or neo-nazi whose foundational belief was that people of color should be exterminated through birth control. Dr. King was well aware of that and was why he was a republican. Today many people of color are democrats because another racist President Johnson gave them a few crumbs, keep in mind this same Johnson allowed the unlawful wiretaps and surveillance of Dr. King.
Within the next few years I believe almost every county will have a primary. The state was dominated by democrats for a hundred years and the suppression of rights and opportunities was incredible. Just compare the state's progress under democrats and then under conservative republicans.
I wondered if the primary was to keep so many from being on the ballot in the general election.
Several, several years back it seemed like each office had 5 or 8 running for that office. I worked in that election and I thought it never would end. If they were in line when poles closed you had to let them vote. Look at the people that don't have anyone running against them now.
We didn't have internet then to hear the fussing, but sure must of been a lot because the incumbent had a lot people running against him/her. So is agreeing with the person in office isn't new.
Great post, Mr. Barrett! I wasn't happy about the expense of the primary when I first heard about it, but after careful consideration of the long term benefits, I think it was a good call. The expense is nil compared to the money thrown away by Janet Vanzandt and gang.
Where is the public outcry for the looted hospital fund, wasn't that $10,000,000.00? Where is the public outcry for the $1,000,000.00 "lost" school money? Where is the public outcry for the EDC's overspending $30,000.00 just this year, and we're only in March. I smell a red herring and it really stinks.
12:29, That is what I've been wondering.
Yeah, our beloved county officials seem to count on the public's propensity for short memories. They think if they ignore questions long enough that people will just forget. We need to show them that we're not that stupid when election day arrives.
4:45
And voters need to remember that the Republican party is responsible for taxpayers having to foot the bill for a needless $25,000 primary. They should be furious about that.
And voters need to remember that it's democrats that have put us twenty trillion in debt, did away with the jobs, stolen our rights and regulated us in to the highest cost of living in our history. A tiny fish causes farmers fields to dry up, killing an eagle is highly fined unless it's with a turbine, and it was democrats that destroyed our health care system.
6:01
But we are talking about the Republican primary in Giles County, aren't we?
6:300 What happen to talking about the overspent money by Speer?
Or several thousand spent in defending ridiculous lawsuits?
You are right 6:59 like those the IDB/EDC are involved in because they could not follow the simple rules of honesty in dealing with a man and his company.
6:59 Yes let's talk about that. There have been a lot of ridiculous lawsuits in Giles County. Sometimes people should think and they could easily keep them from happening. Let's see $70,000.00 when it would of only taken a few minutes to talk to her.
8:19 The county should have fought that ridiculous suit that was "agged on" by someone you and I both know. I was told that the county would fight it tooth and nail if they had it to do over. But you and I both know that anytime anyone hints at something racist, everyone gets so bent out of shape and frightened. That's the society we now live in. The county knew that, and settled in lieu of having to pay a huge and even more absurd amount!
If they were innocent 9:49 why would they have to pay a huge and absurd amount? I know they claim they can hire best fit, as opposed to best qualified, employees but they did not follow Equal Opportunity Employment practices. That was proven. Since you are on the inside on the decision making. Maybe you can clarify how they did comply. Everyone will appreciate it.Feel free to answer after you find a way to twist my statement and work a derogatory statement in about Barrett.
So you would hire a ninety pound weakling with no experience to work at your sawmill as opposed to a big strong healthy guy who knows what to do just because the former is a minority? I'm sure you would no that.
CG I believe you need to cool it, Mrs. White might not like to be compared to a 90 pound weakling.
That wasn't the only lawsuit that Giles County has had that could of been prevented. At one time there seemed to be a lot of lawsuits going on. Maybe not all under Mrs. Vanzant's leader ship. I just remember wondering what's going on here every time I read in the paper about a lawsuit county and city.
5:52 your sawmill analogy is bull. Your private owned sawmill doesn't come under the same rules as the government. The county did fight Mrs White right up to the moment the Federal EEOC stated that it was a clear exclusion by race and that Mrs White has been discriminated against by being one of the top rated applicants and not even being interviewed for the job she had applied for. If Mrs Vanzant would simply have given her an interview and hired someone else instead of arrogantly dismissing her without the interview there would have been no provable problem. It was a matter of stupidity and arrogance combining to make a big mistake.
The reason the county didn't have a leg to stand on is because they didn't even interview Ms.White to find out if she was a "ninety pound weakling." Allen's right, all they would have had to do is talk to her. They were not obligated to hire her, only interview her.
To 6:01, don't the salmon eat the tiny little fish? What happens if they stop running? I believe that's what all the uproar was about, not because the fish was cute or anything. Some resources don't come back after they're gone.
6:12
No, here's the deal, and I got this pretty straight. The county knew that, the way things are today, they would have no chance at all. Anytime the charge of racial discrimination is made, it's usually almost impossible to defend, and particularly when you have someone behind it who is agitating and spurring it on. That was true in this case. There used to be a time when someone who was passed over for a job didn't whine but rather went on to find employment elsewhere. I KNOW, because I have applied for jobs and never got called in for an interview. So what? Isn't it the employer's right to select whoever he wants?But now it seems that, regardless of abilities, temperament, past work history, etc you can sue someone if you are not selected for employment. The county felt they had no choice but to settle. However, given a second chance, the county would have fought that suit tooth and nail.
7:06 The county should of thought about what you just said could happen and given her an interview, then forgot her. Put your thinking cap on from now on.
7:30 Should I have sued because I applied for jobs and was never given an interview? No!
We man up!
You have to be able to prove you were the best qualified like Mrs. White. Obviously you can't.
7:06 Hogwash. Nothing but an excuse to justify the actions that were proven un-justifiable.
I have one more question for you 7:06. What happened to that best fit employee that was hired? Is she still employed, still living in the county? She really worked out great didn't she? Maybe you can ask her where all the missing money is and what happened to the hospital fund?
And while you have her on the phone, thank her for hiring the best fit employee of the century, Terry "I'm a county commissioner, what you gonna do about it" Harwell. So best fit they had to write an article to explain to the tax payers why they would hire such a highly qualified, ethical individual. I never had seen the county take up a full page in the paper to explain anything to the people, let alone why they hired someone. Maybe they felt there was a need to try to justify their actions to the taxpayers? And I agree they need to justify why a county commissioner whose job it is to vote on the fiscal policy of the county, is sitting in the Financial Management office when he did not want financial management to be passed in the first place.
8:29 Are you black? You probably opened your mouth like you do on the blog and they knew they didn't want you.
I never said a thing about she should of sued. From your post I said they should of thought that could happen.
You need to seek help. Twist everything to what you want.
C'mon cg, you don't' agree with the lawsuit because it was your heroine Janet who caused it. She was absolutely in the wrong and I fully support Ms. White's decision to sue and am most pleased that she won. This isn't the 60s and you just can't operate now like you could then. Change with the times, old man.
9:28
Are you Mr. Barrett?
How can you say you are pleased that this frivolous lawsuit cost taxpayers so much money?
10:04 And you are Janet?
4:33
It's only twisting when anyone disagrees with you and the frequent flyers here on this blog?
7:25 No, twisting is when you try to say someone said what they didn't say.
It must be wonderful to think you are the only smart person in Giles county and know what everyone thinks even if they think something entirely different.
I think they it's ok for Terry Hastings Harwell to work for the county, but he should voluntarily RECUSE himself from voting on any issue that affects his pay. That's not right, any more than it was right for Principal Bill Holt to vote on money for schools when he was a commissioner.
2:17 I think that's precisely what Terry does.
Then the 7th District isn't being representative by as many commissioner as the others. If that's what they want, what the hell do I care.
9:37 Then let the voters in District 7 vote for the ones they want. It's unfortunate for one or two of the candidates who are going to lose.
Terry Harwell is very popular, contrary to what this blog has to say and we know why. He will again be the top vote getter, followed by Shelly Goolsby and Vickie Coleman.
harwell is popular with the uneducated, arrogant and bigoted citizens in this county. I don't think recusing himself is nearly enough after his behavior at the cook off. He should resign out of shame for his actions. There is no excuse for a count official to behave in the manner he has demonstrated.
Terry Harwell showed what he was in the video, a bigoted homophobic slime bucket and now he's stealing from the county by taking money twice for the same time.
Terry Harwell showed what he was in the video, a bigoted homophobic slime bucket and now he's stealing from the county by taking money twice for the same time.
8:44 and 8:08
And your hatred for Terry is also too apparent. You may not like him so you should vote for someone else. But any support I can give him he will get. Like most people, my support goes to the person who is under attack...unless he or she has broken the law in some manner.
You think he should resign for his actions? I think the one you so apparently adore should withdraw his name from the ballot for his actions. My opinion and my right to it.
He did break the law dumbass with his hate speech and physical assault on a citizen.
6:19 Have you moved into the 7th District where you ca vote for Terry? Just wondering. A few years ago you said you lived in the country.
Also is the north end of Pulaski in the 7th District?
9:05 I believe the word was support and not vote. Go back and read that post again.
Dumbo, I never said anything about whether you said vote or support. I asked if you had moved to 7th district. I was just wondering if you could vote for Harwell. Also wondering if you had moved.
I don't live in 7th district and support Terry Harwell getting beat. will do every thing I can to see he don't get elected again.
More twisting.
8:47 & 1:05 Sounds like don't either one of you care about the representing District 7 gets.
Just one of you seems to be in love with Terry Harwell and the other one hates Terry Harwell.
Are most of the people in Giles County like you two?
not in love here...ha. I just hate to see someone try to destroy Terry to improve another's chances for an election he's not gonna win to begin with.
Laying out the facts about someone is not attempting to destroy them in order to benefit someone else. The facts is facts and a person who assaulted another, used hate speech, lied to the public, double dips into tax money and filed bankruptcy is not someone I would want representing me in anything.
Then you should vote for the other guy. My support foes to Harwell, Goolsby, and Coleman.
I personally like Terry Harwell, but I have to agree that he has not done much to make me feel too good about his decision making skills.
1:23
I don't hate Terry Harwell, just don't think he should be Commissioner and work in the FD. Also think the way he acted at the cook off wasn't professional for a commissioner.
That smug remark he made about being a commissioner really took the cake.
As for Barrett I don't know that I would vote for him if I lived in 7th District. I would have to meet him and talk with him.
I'm like 3:22 in one way I hate to see someone try to destroy someone to keep them from getting elected like she does Barrett. Noticed she had nothing to say about trying to twist my asking if she had moved to the 7th District.
11:43
First of all, I am a man, and where I live is really, to be blunt, none of your business.
What Terry Harwell did at the cook-off showed a human side to him. We all are human, and none of us are perfect. He was provoked and quite angry. I got that. And he, in a fit of anger, blurted out a thing or two that I am SURE he regrets at this point in time. But hasn't the one you seem to admire had more than just one outburst at county meetings? You know I speak the truth.
Wouldn't you have been upset had you been in that same situation at the cook-off?
I said I would support Mr. Harwell, and that should have been plain enough. In addition, I will support Mrs. Goolsby and Mrs. Coleman. My best advice for you is that you support and/or vote for the candidates of your choice and let it go at that.
Finally, here's something for you to consider. Who among the 7th District commissioner candidates has been guilty of attempts to malign his or her opponents? There's only one. Not ONE WORD of criticism has been posted on here against him by his opponents. I could never vote for someone like that. I'd be more concerned with that behavior than I would be of a man who when provoked to anger let go a word or two that he knows he shouldn't have. To me, it showed that Terry Harwell was man enough to defend his wife's honor. All of us have said things in anger that we wish we hadn't, and you know that.
Defend Terry all you want. Again, I like him, but what he said (anger or not) is inexcusable. Leaders should be held to a higher standard. His wife tried to tell him that cameras were on. He couldn't control himself, and what he said was not a one time slip. It is deeply seeded into him.
He may be a good ole boy, but he ain't no high quality representative.
Nor is a wannabe leader who cannot control emotions at meetings. Think about that. Vote for whoever you want and let's drop this, ok?
7:25. Don't you say things against Barrett. Just saying he has out burst at meetings is as much against him as saying what Terry Harwell did out the cook off is.
NO, I don't know what WAB does at Commissioner meetings. I 'm not up there like you are. You say he did is the only way I know, so I will except it.
No, I want drop it. I will tell everyone to watch the cook off.
Some of your post sound like a man then one will sound like a female. I like to get you going, kind of like Hughes did Harwell at the cook off. He was just there videoing. Sometimes it's best to ignore things. Did Terry ever apologize to anyone for the way he acted at the cook off? I think he should have apologized to Mrs. Vanzant and the Commissioners for the way he acted? It reflected bad on them and Giles County.
Harwell at cook off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saxr0s3sstY
Terry had time to think. Look at the video. He thought specifically about what he was doing. He walked to a table, filled up a cup of water and intentionally threw it, after announcing, "This is about me, I'm a county commissioner, what you gonna do about it? He ain't nothin" "fagot." The previous are some of the elegant, direct quotes from a fine and upstanding county commissioner, Terry Harwell. Terry and Vicky then thought about it and filed false charges against Bob, for an assault Terry committed, and then started promoting he was protecting his wife. Everybody who saw the video or was there knows that is a lie and both just showed their character. And if you listened to Vicky's interview to the police you know every time her mouth opened a lie came out. Both should have been arrested for false statements to the police. I guess the perks of being related to D.A. Mike Bottoms is a get out of jail free card.
12:08
Then support your candidate and stop this mess, ok?
1:22
12:08 is not mine.
I did post 12:06 and 12:07.
Have to say I like what 12:08 said.
Do people not like Vicki as much as they do Terry?
Noticed she got beat in mayor election.
You want stop so why should I?
1:54 You are the only one who is trying to belittle and smudge someone else to make things easier for your candidate. But both of you should know that approach failed the last time, as it will again this time.
All I ask is that you stop trying to hurt someone else. All this is doing is adding more votes to Mr. Harwell's total. Trust me when I tell you that.
2:07,
12:08 here. You're a liar. You have consistently proven yourself to be a liar and enabler. I don't think any one in their right mind can trust some one who has made statements like yours. The proof is in the pudding.
So have a jello pudding pop and shut the _ _ _ _ up.
Have a nice day.
2:17
You are doing as much harm to the candidate's chances as he is. Why don't you stop it? Remember what happened when a certain group fell in behind Scott Stewart? He lost by a huge margin, and I believe it was directly caused by those who were on here badmouthing Mrs. Vanzant. He saw the mistake too late I think.
Just support or vote for the candidate of your choice and respect the rights of others to vote against him. Ok?
2:17 On second thought, just go ahead and keep up the badmouthing.
cg, You can't see you do to Barrett what you claim the others are doing to Terry Harwell. Talk about the kettle calling the pot black. laughable.
I said claim, I just used that word because that is what you are claiming. To me they are belittling Harwell just like you are Barrett.
I don't understand why you are privileged. Both need to shut up, but I don't blame them for not stopping when you don't mean to.
Keep it up, gives us something to read.
Another cg I see? Laughable. Anybody who doesn't see things as you do is a cg...LOL.
Who is doing what to Barrett? I don't see it at all, but I do see a lot of smudging of other 7th District commissioner candidates. Why is that? Care to take a stab at it?
And how do we know you are not another 7th district commissioner taking shots from the shadows? It doesn't take long to figure out who is taking shots.
Hell cg, do you honestly believe that telling facts about someone is smudging their character? Seems to me they are smudging their own character. You have to be accountable for your actions be they good or bad and harwell's actions were anything but good. If you don't want folks talking about actions you are ashamed of, don't do them. Simple enough, isn't it?
Ray
Here's what I have gleaned from this blog in terms of 7th District commissioner candidates and their so-called offenses:
Candidates Offense(s)
1. T. Harwell Works for FM
Defended wife
2. T. Campbell Accused of
liking to pay
more taxes
3. V. Coleman Has a cell
phone
4. S. Goolsby Has a day job
5. A. Barrett Without fault
Which one of these has had negative things to say or suggest about the others? Did anyone guess candidate 5?
There have been any number of lies and character assassination attempts made to destroy Mr. Barrett much of it lead by the one known as cg also as the enabler. Here's the facts, Mr. Barrett wasn't even at the cook off when Terry Harwell called him a nasty name after attacking Bob Hughes physically and with hate speech so disgusting that few would repeat it.
I have watched Mr Barrett over several years now and have yet to see him lose control or misbehave in any meetings I have attended. I have seen him treated worse than a dog at times and just smile at the abuser. When he has responded it has always been appropriate to the way he was being treated. Mr. Barrett has shown more insight into the county's problems and solutions than most commissioners and certainly the county executive he has submitted ideas that had they been accepted when offered would have saved the county millions of dollars then when they were finality adopted not a word of thanks was offered to Mr. Barrett. I am very aware of these things because I am a commissioner and have watch this situation for a while just get worse and worse.
Now Mr. Barrett has proposed a way to fund the ten million dollar loan for the school system with out a property tax increase or a wheel tax and so far all the county executive has done is drag her feet as usual and say we're researching it. At our last budget meeting she even went so far as to read from the wrong referendum in an effort to sabotage Mr. Barrett's plan for the county, it was shameful what she did, but it opened the eyes of other commissioners. As a commissioner I am impressed that Mr. Barrett has shown more interest and better understanding than many of those in elected positions.
There is no other poster we refer to as cg. Your commenting style identifies you as surely as your signature would, were you man enough to sign your posts. The simple fact that you deny this proves that you lack conviction even in your own comments. You should really try to figure out why you behave as you do. I'm sure your family and that one friend you got would appreciate it.
Although I am not a Barrett supporter or fan, there is no doubt that our current County Executive has done a horrible job.
I can't believe that this county continues to operate under the popularity system as opposed to voting for the best person for the job.
Glenn Gordon was the man for the job 8 years ago.
I don't know if Scott Stewart was the man for the job, or not. One thing we know for sure......Janet VanZant is not capable of running this county effectively!
Commissioner
Then you should go out and campaign for him.
6:09
Several of us accurately predicted this attack on Mrs. Vanzant as well as the discussion concerning the 7th District Commissioner race.
I think the majority of Giles County voters believe Mrs. Vanzant is doing a good job, whether you like that or not. I will do anything I can to help her. That's still my right.
Will you be getting behind Mr. Stowe during this election. If he reads this blog, I'm sure he would rather you refrain.
Commissioner
I know several of the commissioners and those who are so enthralled with Mr. Barrett are a very distinct minority.
You've never seen an outburst? How many meetings have you attended in past years? I'm just asking is all.
cg can't you say it all in one post.
You really don't care about Giles County. I bet the ones you support wish you would shut up.
I know something on Ms Goolsby but have been keeping quiet because I like her, but you are going to keep on until I spill the beans.
I'm not supporting Mr. Barrett just don't like the way you attack him, then say you don't.
I really think you need a good doctor. Just keep your drama up. lol
6:21 It is easy to predict "an attack" on JVZ. She has been the worst County Executive in my lifetime.
People like you (the ones who elect based on popularity, and not ability or accomplishment) will continue to keep Giles suppressed.
If you take the name out of it, and look at the record, you will not see good results. And I mean the negative results are glaring.
Unfortunately, there is not a lot of competition this time. Its a shame.
For those who say/think that Mrs. VanZant is doing a good job, I would like for them to name just one thing that she has accomplished during her 12 year tenure.
I have not posted any negative things about any person on here, but to say you have something on Mrs. Goolsby is as low down as it comes. She is a good person and a great teacher. I don't know what you know, but if there is some tidbit of information that you have is hurtful, keep it to yourself. Little people come on here to hide behind anonymity and then attend church to say how holy they are on Sunday. Shameful, shameful, shameful!
8:42
You are so right. If this bunch had anything on Mrs. Goolsby, it would be all over this blog by now. But all they have been able to come up with is the fact that she has a job!!! She is a wonderful and decent person who will make a fine commissioner for 7th District. But take comfort in the fact that they have also been after Mr.Campbell, Mr. Harwell, and Mrs. Coleman. So she is not alone.
Many of us knew this attack on 7th District commissioner candidates would begin about this time. We were right. We also were sure they would go after Mrs. Vanzant again. They didn't let us down.
I'm still waiting on an accomplishment from Mrs Vanzant. I'm pretty sure that I'll be waiting a while, because this county has wasted 12 years going on 16!
Not to mention squandering our hospital funds. Ten million dollars is a LOT of money in my book!
8:42 Your last sentence described cg to a T. Shameful, shameful is right. I'm glad you described yourself.
" Little people come on here to hide behind anonymity and then attend church to say how holy they are on Sunday. Shameful, shameful, shameful!"
Go vote for I'm a Commissioner what you gonna do about it.
To bad a lot of people in 7th District can't see the cook off and see the man Terry Harwell really is.
Question: Why is it that not a single other candidate for commissioner in any of the districts is throwing rocks at opponents except for the one in District 7? Anybody care to guess on that one? And the same old mess aganst Mrs. Vanzant has started right on time.
3:22 a.k.a. one of the other 7th district commissioners,
You do. Just don't sign your name when you attack Barrett and any one who agrees with him, on any subject.
I believe Allen Barrett is the one doing the attacking. What other candidate for commissioner in ANY of the other districts has had the first unkind thing to say about his or her opponents? NONE OF THEM. That speaks volumes. It is commendable that he has slacked off on it lately, and that's as it should be.
Maybe he decided to run a clean campaign. Oh, right!
Allen Barret starts threads then cg attacks like a big old bear.
then others attack vanzant and harwell.
cg likes to blame everyone else for things that he also does. One sided?
Other Commissioner don't have to say anything cg takes care of it all.
Bet Terry Harwell wishes cg would stop so people wouldn't be attacking him so. People might forget then Terry said he was a commissioner what you gonna do about it.
I like to check in every now and then, but I always go away shaking my head. Y'all are the most childish bunch of people I have ever seen. Grow up and stop all the personal attacks. This blog can be a useful forum to keep up with what's going on in the county, but y'all are ridiculous. Attack, attack, attack!
Lotsd of people around the county knew ahead of time, based on the last election, that 7th District and Mrs. Vanzant would be under fire once again. Just take a look at what's going on and judge for yourself. This is not happening in any other district. If it is, I have yet to see it.
8:10 You do enough for the on the candidates so they don't have to.
7:57 I guess you can't see 8:10 is attacking which is also you.
All of you folks complaining about the objective discussions about Janet Vanzant, please provide one bit of evidence of ONE POSITIVE THING that she has accomplished. You will be hard pressed to do so.
8:41
Regardless of what you say, the fact remains that this mudslinging is not going on in any other districts but 7. That's a fact, Jack. And the attacks on Mrs. Vanzant were so predictable; please keep up the good work. You are only helping her and hurting your candidate. Looks like you would have learned this lesson last election. I am fairly certain that he would rather you stop this. I'm not so sure about the other one. How miserable it must feel to know that one must resort to tearing down someone else in an attempt to build oneself up.
What attacks on Mrs. V? All I've seen so far is people asking what she has done that is beneficial for the county. If you consider that an attack then there is more wrong with your thought process than we believed. Grow up cg.
The Drama King has spoken, everyone is suppose to obey him.
When a president or any other office runs for the second term there is talk against him, no law saying you can't tell what you know on any candidate. So what is wrong in telling what you know on cg's candidate?
There is a difference in attacking someone personally and telling about the accomplishments and qualifications of a person. The question was asked about Mrs Vanzant's accomplishments and people were asked to tell just one positive accomplishment and immediately that's supported to be a personal attack? Mr. Harwell acted like an out of control fool then he and his wife lied to the police but when people are reminded of that behavior he's being attacked personally. Mr Barrett stated that Mrs Coleman filed bankruptcy, nobody has denied that it is true only that it is a personal attack against her. Someone keeps saying Mr Barrett is disrupting meetings and causing trouble everywhere, but they don't give any specific examples but they don't see it as personal attacks against him.
Personally I want to know the truth about the character and finances of the people who are representing me A person who can't manage their own money shouldn't be handling our people's money; people who use hate speech and assaults citizens and uses their position to protect themselves should not hold any position of authority. The truth is not a personal attack but gossip and lies are. Attacking a person and hiding behind the anonymous label is as cowardly as you can get. I'm signing myself as anonymous but i am nit attacking anyone just for clarity.
Regardless of what you say, the fact remains that NONE of the mudslinging and attempts to undermine candidates is taking place in any districts other than 7. Mire than that, the same old rhetoric that saw Scott Stewart lose big time started again just as it was predicted.
The ones I asked about voting Scot Stewart told me, "The Lakes own enough in Pulaski, I don't want them trying to run the county." But cg thinks he knows best, blame it on Barrett. Sounds like the President blame everything on Bush.
What they had against the Lake family, I don't know.
There is two running against vanzant this time so the ones that think vanzant has been in there long enough will split their votes. Her loyal supports will support her. She will be watched like a hawk.
Cg did you ever think the other districts might have good men and women in them. No you rather twist it like you want it.
All of you voting for Harwell and Vanzant what will be done for money, hospital money is gone.
Regardless of what you say, there are NO other attacks going on in any of the other districts besides 7. Why is that? Why does a candidate or hos supporters feel so threatened that an effort has to be made to destroy the competition? And why the sudden attack on Mrs. Vanzant AGAIN? Those facts are really not arguable. Yet, you want to argue.
Here's the deal. Vote for your candidates and respect other people's right to vote for theirs and stop this mess. It's only hurting your candidates like it did before. You will find that out again in August. The Republican primary election means NOTHING other than a waste of taxpayer money.
7:46 Well, I've seen one district where a candidate is married to the chairman of the democrat party but too ashamed to admit they are a democrat or married to her and I seen on here where Tommy Beech don't show up for meetings and when he does he has his disgusting spit bottle sitting there. I seen where Rose Brown was criticized about working for the schools and voting for her benefits. So saying that there ain't anymore districts having problems is wrong and anyway the election ain't till August. Now the other thing that you don't see is that Barrett is attacked more than anyone and with more mean spirited lies than I could even imagine. CG you have been more abusive and mean than anyone on here and I for one am just sick of your lies and distortion.
7:46 When are you going to stop your attacks? There have been attacks against Vanzant and Harwell several times since last election. Why do you want to pretend it's just happen?
Is it so hard for you to understand the men and women in other Districts might be doing a good job?
CG you need to read 8:23's post. I'm sure you think it don't apple so you will twist it to your advantage.
Mary Ann
Yes, Rose Brown and Tommy Beech have been mentioned, but there has only been a concerted and sustained attack on the District 7 candidates save one.
How is it abusive and mean to point that out?
Vote for your candidates and respect the rights of others to vote for theirs. Just because someone doesn't agree with you does NOT make them wrong anymore than it makes you right.
11:14 you should read your comments sometimes, they actually have some good advice if you would only take it. I agree with Mary Ann no one has put up with as many constant attacks as Mr. Barrett and not once have I seen any specific examples of bad behavior from Mr. Barrett. Sharing factual evidence of a poor character Mrs Vanzant's lies, Mr. Harwell's behavior at the cook off and Mrs Coleman's bankruptcy and phone playing are not attacks any more than to say they live in 7th district or shop at WalMart.
The hypocrisy shown by some is unbelievable and the sad part they claim to be Christians while spreading nothing but gossip and lies.
7:32
You are so INCREDIBLY obvious in what you are doing. Here's the plan: Destroy as many of the District 7 candidates as possible and maybe, just maybe, Mr. Barrett can finally win. The same holds true for Mrs. Vanzant. Just as with the District 7 candidates, The more you try to tear her down, the more resolved voters will be to elect her again. That's their choice. You also have the choice to vote for and support your candidates without trying to destroy opponents. Do you feel all that threatened? This is working against your candidates just as it did before. And since you apparently don't know that, I can't believe I am telling you.
7:32
What gossip and lies are being spread? Can you give an example?
CG Just because someone doesn't agree with you does NOT make them wrong anymore than it makes you right.
You know you attack Barrett all the time.
I think all in office need to, time for new blood.
7:54
Brilliant analysis! Hasn't that been said over and over here on this blog? Nobody is necessarily right or wrong. We are all entitled to see things as we choose without someone like you ready to beat us over the head with what you think is right.
Why don't you go ahead and support the candidates of your choice and RESPECT the rights of others to support theirs? There's no need in all this grief and drama.
8:04
Why don't you worry about yourself and quit trying to tell everyone what to say and how to act, especially when you are guilty of the very things for which you condemn others?
Why is it OK for you to name call not only Barrett, but anyone who posts on this blog with whom you do not agree? Don't worry, you don't have to answer. Everyone knows you are just one of the other 7th district commissioners slinging mud at Barrett. Now isn't that right?
To the one who wants the "Enabler" (who likes to think of himself as a cg)to respond: You are wasting your time asking him to name one positive thing that JV has done for this county. I moved here several years ago, during an election season. I knew nothing about any of the candidates,and I ask the enabler, on this forum, the same question. (My name for him is "Rabid" due to his defense of JV) He basically told me by virtue of even asking the question, that I was troublemaking and that she neither needed or wanted my vote! I was floored by Rabid's response until it finally dawned on me that he didn't understand the Democratic process. He just doesn't get that you help your candidate by telling what they have done well with specific examples. He also doesn't get that in a campaign, telling what other candidates have done wrong is also legitimate campaigning tactics. Normal people understand that and know if you sign up for public life, past behaviors will be made public. It is beyond his mental grasp. He sees nothing wrong with "attacking" the POTUS and blaming him for all the ills of our country, (neither do I, this is just an example of his double standard), but local officials are off limits. In another glaring example of his hypocracy, he has NO problem attacking a private citizen, but nobody else has the right to criticize anybody. As I said, he simply cannot grasp the Democratic process, and just pouts and "blows smoke" when someone calls him on this behavior. I gave up on the idea that he will give me any type of logical coherent answer regarding real issues,candidates, and officials, many years ago. You may as well give up expecting any honest discussion from him. His intellect just doesn't allow for it to happen.
Deanna
Deanna
Then why don't you vote for and support the candidates of your choice and respect the rights of others to vote for their opponents? Isn't that the essence of running a clean campaign? And could you tell me why there's so much bickering going on with the 7th District? I think I know why but would like to hear it from you. Tearing down one's opponents is not the right thing to do. It's not going on in any of the other districts. Must we feel so threatened?
The bickering is going on in that district because some of the candidates have made poor choices regarding ethical behavior and citizens are questioning their qualifications. I intend to vote for the candidates of my choice, thank you. And I "rest my case" regarding your rabid defense of those officials previously discussed. You cannot name one positive thing JV has done for the county. Not ONE!
Deanna
See how that works, cg. You asked Deanna a question, she answered it. Amazing, now you try it.
Deanna
Then vote for or support whomever you choose. That's what I am going to do.
The bickering is not going on in any of the other districts but 7. This is exactly what happened last election, and I believe we can both recall who won and who came in dead last. People do not like this sort of thing, and I have a right to point it out and ask that it stop.
As for me, my support goes to Mr. Harwell, Mrs. Coleman, Mrs. Goolsby, and of course Mrs. Vanzant. And I can do this without having to throw rocks at their opponents. If you think Mrs. Vanzant is not the right person for the job, simply vote for one of the others and respect those who do not see it as you do.
12:30 Let me ask you a question then. Do you think it is ok for a voter to support and vote for candidates of his or her choice without having to explain why to anyone else? I always thought of voting as a private thing and a personal choice. Is it not? If not, then why is the actual process of voting in a booth so private?
Brillian non-answer! you just told who you were voting for then claim it's a private matter. In other words you support JV just "cause". It is your right. However common sense would dictate that you want others to support her as well and would tell why she is so great at what she does. That would stop the so-called attacks, but then what would you complain about? You are just too easy to read!
cg, enabler or what ever anyone wants to call you, why are you the privileged one? You think you can say anything you want to,but no one else is allowed to.
You want to know why none of the other districts are being attacked, because you aren't supporting any of them. You are the cause of all the trouble. You want everybody else to stop but you don't intend to. I doubt anyone ever will stop and turn the blog over to you. You are not God!
8:04 no one questions you voting for whoever you please the problem is in your explanations and reasoning. You can vote for Vanzant because she has nice feet or Harwell because you like his beard and that's fine for you but others may want something more substantial so they ask for information to help decide and this is where you go wrong because regardless of your reasons you are not entitled to use untruths as facts to support or detract from someone that's why people other than you and most liberals deal in real facts and not feelings.
.
1:39/2:15
Voting is a private matter and none you your business or anyone else's business WHY I vote for the ones I decide to support. You may vote for whomever you please, and I have never nor will I ever ask you why you vote for the ones you do. Ok? That's really not hard to understand.
Yes, I have made no secret as to who I plan to support. Still, it's my business and not yours.
No, I still want you to explain to the audience why there is NONE of this going on in any of the other district commissioner races. It's obvious to me just as it was last year, and you see what happened. But nevertheless, keep up the good work.
You want to blame this on someone other than the one who started this all up again. That is total idiocy. I have named the ones I will support, and that is my right. However, the difference between me and those who attack the opposition is that I do not play that game. But again, the reasons why I support the ones I do is none of your business.
While you are explaining why all this trouble is peculiar to District 7 as it was last year, would you also name an untruth that has been spoken.
Lastly, you really need to work on that anger and intolerance for views that do not coincide with yours. I couldn't help but notice the name-calling.
Post a Comment
<< Home