April Meeting of "The Giles Patriots"
Last night , 10 April 2014, “The Giles Patriots” held their
monthly meeting where we were thoroughly enlightened by two of the candidates
seeking election to the position of Giles County Executive. All three
candidates for the position had been invited well in advance but as usual Mrs. Vanzant found reason for
not attending. I have never been in a meeting or heard of a gathering, where
questions would be asked, that she has attended and stayed for the questions.
I am very pleased to report that both Mr. Lindsey and Mr.
Stowe did an excellent job in presenting themselves to the group of
approximately fifty and both were outstanding in their responses to the several
questions that were asked of them.
The main emphasis of both impressive candidates was their
leadership and administration skills.
Both men are retired military, Mr. Lindsey from the army and Mr. Stowe
from the Coast Guard. Both candidates have extensive leadership experience with
Mr. Stowe having an edge by virtue of having graduated from the Coast Guard
Academy, served in the White House, commanded two different ships then was
commander of the largest base in the Pacific. Mr. Lindsey’s stronger abilities
seem to have been involved with mostly administration, serving on the Inspector
General’s team with a focus on nuclear, Biological and Chemical weaponry. He is
currently writing grants and guidelines for small businesses in the Huntsville
area. Both men would be excellent for the position of Giles County Executive.
I believe all present were very impressed by both
candidates. Some did express disappointment that Mr. Lindsey left rather
quickly after the meeting adjourned, while Mr. Stowe remained and was among the
last to leave the building having stayed for informal discussions and
questions.
posted by Allen Barrett | 7:44 AM
179 Comments:
Sorry I missed the meeting although I did have a prior commitment. Mr. Barret, could you please post on this blog when you know of other meeting of this nature is being held Thank you.
The way Mrs. Vanzant has been dogged on this blog, I don't blame her for not attending. But of course that will be used against her. It's a catch 22 for her.
I swear, cg, you take up for vanzant no matter what. I bet if someone said she ate a crap sandwich you would say, "No she didn't, she doesn't like bread."
10:21
Relax. I support Mrs. Vanzant, and you don't. So be it. Vite for one of the other guys. But as for me and my household, we support Mrs. Vanzant.
Hey CG one question that was going to be asked to Vanzant ... "What happened to the $6.2 million surplus in the General Fund balance as of July 2006?" This does not include the $15.0 million in the Hospital Fund that was not to be touched by Commission Resolution.
As of today approximately $16.2 million has been spend without any discussions with any citizens.
Please CG enlighten us.
Who are these Giles Patriots?
So you mean to say that your entire family enables wrongdoing? Wow, what a legacy you're leaving.
11:18 Not at all. We support and vote for those we feel are right for the job. That's exactly what we intend to do. Furthermore, I will try to help those I support in any way I can. But I have to say that you are helping them more than I possibly could. Thank you.
Let 's see about that "right for the job" thingy. Mr. Stowe graduates from the Coast Guard Academy a very prestigeous school, serves his country in the Coast Guard over twenty five years holds such postisions as ship commander, base commander and aide to the president of the country. Mr. Lindsey graduates from college serves his country over twenty years as an officer in the army, inspects nuclear, biological and chemical warheads and missels, writes grants and guidelines for small business and leads other soldiers.
Mrs. Vanzant graduates from Bodenheim High School, has never lead anyone, has never made a plan of action for the county and her only executive experience is as county executive where she has practically bankrupted the county.
Mr. Stowe and Mr. Lindsey can list major accomplishments for their life, count numerous leadership experiences and are not afraid to speak to the people and answer their questions.
Mrs. Vanzant refuses to speak to a group of citizens never answers questions from those citizens, will not list any accomplishments or leadership training she has and continues to try and fuction without any plan of action at all.
Yep, you sure got it right CG looks like Mrs. Vanzant is highly qualified for your vote, she just isn't qualified to continue leading this county.
I'm beginning to believe the enabler's idea of right for the job means willing to rob the taxpayers.
My gosh....9 posts and already 3-4 about CG and the whole "ill support who I will.....blablablabla". Can anyone have a conversation about what actually went on? Do you have a friggin tattoo in support of VanZant? Please do....it's your right.
I have never posted any concerns about the hospital funds being spent. I have a question though. Does it not take the full commission to allocate and spend money on projects in the county? Can a single committee or person spend funds without approval?
Mrs. Vanzant has far more experience as a County Executive than the other 2. Being in the military does not make you qualified to run a group of people or a county. Allen has taught the citizens and local government that much.
I am sure most citizens know where you stand when it comes to Vanzant, Allen. I suppose you say what you do on here to concrete the fact that you are nothing more than an obnoxious child in an old man's body.
Let me be the first to congratulate you on another sizeable loss this year.
And to the rest of you losers, I am not CG.
So by being a military leader and responsible for military budgets do not qualify anyone to lead as an Exec?....so what qualifications did Mrs. Vanzant have?
4:23 I'm retired navy 28 years and brother you don't know beans if you don't know a ships captain has leadership.
First of all he is the king of the ship with the power of life and death in his hands. He is responsible for every thing on, and around that ship from AA meetings to Zymurgy and everything in-between. Brother the captain is responsible for everything and if t don't all work right he don't remain as the captain. Ain't nobody had more responsibility don't matter if they were in the Army or Air Force than a ship's captain. I don't know this guy Stowe but if he was a captain on three different ships and they increased in size each time you can be sure he has a lot on the ball and brother landing a job in the White House don't ever go to no slacker.
I don't care who you vote for brother but don't ever say a ship's captain don't have leadership to run a group of men. I don't know what size ships he had but to command a large military base is more work than dealing with a small county.
On another thread was that the great cg that said something against Stoney Jackson? I wondered about that then I see he didn't vote the way vanzant wanted. Now I understand.
7:54
I am a Christian and a gentleman, and I would just like to say that I have never said one word against Stoney Jackson. Like Mrs. Vanzant, I think he too is doing a good job, whether you like it or not. In the course of their duties Mrs. Vanzant and Mr. Jackson may not always see eye-toeye, but what you won't see them doing is coming to a place like this blog and badmouthing and running one another down.
My hat is off to both Mrs. Vanzant and to Mr. Jackson. I support both of them.
3:36 Yes, it takes the full commission.
4:23
You are right. Everybody knows how Barrett feels about Mrs. Vanzant. I think it is hatred and resentment.
944 ...of course silence after I asked what you thought were Mrs. VZ qualification were since you deem the military guys as not having any.
4:58 Right you are sir! I haven't met this fellow Stowe yet, but there's a real good chance he'll get my vote. I checked out his website at votestowe.com that gives his background and campaign platform. There's pictures and it shows the size of the ships he commanded. They look pretty big to me. And there's a picture of him with Bill Clinton with a football Clinton gave him. Stowe carried the "nuclear football" for Clinton for two years while in the White House and doing the math, I figure he had to be in his early 30's. He's got a very impressive resume.
WAB may feel hatred toward Mrs. Vanzant, but cg feels hatred toward WAB from the way he post.
If everyone would just agree with cg and not post anything against he ones he loves he would stop posting.
When pigs fly.
He would pick your post if you said it was a pretty day. He just can't help himself.
Well if Barrett likes or endorses a candidate that says it all! Now we know who NOT to vote for!
CG you continue to refuse to answer my direct question.
That proves you are ignorant or apathetic
6:27
You are absolutely right. And isn't this so-called Republican Party (the ones that meet behind closed doors without letting anyone know) pushing Stowe as well? That's what scares me. If Barrett and some of the "leaders" in the Republican Party are backing him, we should all be concerned.
I believe this is, once again, the plan to get "their people" in charge of things. First they make a prolonged and concerted effort to destroy those they want out (Mrs. Vanzant being their chief target) and replace them with "right-thinking" people who are smarter than we are and who can tell us how to think and act here. Well WHO NEEDS THEM? Just be aware of this. It is my opinion that these people are dangerous and we already know how ruthless they play. Oh, I'm sure one of them will come back and call me a name and say I'm paranoid schizophrenic or something like that, but it doesn't matter. Just watch how nasty this is all going to get before August.
cg your comment that it takes the full commission is as stupid and wrong as your comments about voting without declaring which party you support. It takes only eleven commissioners to pass most resolutions and 14 to pass on 2/3 majority.
Commissioner Jackson is doing a good job but he was publicly humiliated in a commission meeting when Vanzant did not want to hear. Hell, just watch the video on PES channel two.
Your idea that two men who are retired from the military don't have as much leadership skills as Vanzant is beyond laughable. A military person who has risen to the rank of Corporal or above regardless of their job will have attended military leadership schools, led other military and or hold a leadership position. No civilian without any military experience will ever have the same experiences from basic training to advanced leadership positions. Your accusations than two men who served as high ranking officers one a naval captain of ships don't have anymore leadership than Vanzant is not just laughable but an insult to every military person who has ever served.
Do you have any idea how stupid you sound when you criticize someone for wanting "there people" in office, would you suggest republicans support a democrat for election how about support someone who has totally different principles than they have. As a Christian would you consider voting for a devil worshipper of course not because they wouldn't be your kind of people. Aren't you supporting "your people"? Your comment is beyond ridiculous. What difference does it make who Barrett supports would you still vote for Vanzant if you knew a child rapist was supporting her or a convicted felon, damn man a candidate don't have control over who supports them not even Vanzant, hell she has you as a supporter.
Yea, 7:52 Good post. I can't understand how cg can want others to stop doing what he does. Oh he's like a child my way or no way.
Has the question been answered when someone asked if the local Election Commission is still counting ballots and reading the voting machines instead of official techs?
Damn! I'd vote for Graham Stowe on looks alone. About time we got rid of that old incompetent shriveled up old prune in office now. Visit Votestowe.com. Interesting.
10:56:00 Nice try. I AM a Graham Stowe supporter and I am appalled by your comment. Looks? Really?With a resume as thick as his, you mention looks and insult Mrs. Vanzant? I assure you, Captain Stowe would be disgusted by your remarks. You are no supporter of Graham Stowe, just another of the locals trying in any desperate way to damage him through so-called supporters. Shameful.
I am still waiting for CG or anyone to list Mrs. Vanzants qualification for her position. If this were anything except a "good ole boy" county she would not qualify to make a primary ballet. The post by 4:23 is so far out of line a TV comedian to use it.
I would have commented earlier but haven't been able to stop laughing at the 4:23 comment that Vanzant has more leadership ability than with Lindsey or Stowe. That isn't just a stupid comment it is totally disrespectful of both men who have incredible leadership abilities simply because they did serve in the military as leaders of men and women.
My bet is 10:56 is a supporter of Mrs. Vanzant wanting it to look bad on Stowe. That does happen with some childish people.
Mrs. VanZant does have 12 years experience as county executive. She also has a 12 year record. Considering her record, why would anyone vote to give her 4 more years?
I personally like Mrs.V, but that does not change the fact that Mr.Stowe is obviously more qualified. We need some new blood in the County Execs seat. I believe someone with the leadership experience that Stowe possesses would be a great boon to our county. I doubt seriously that he would allow the commissioners to run roughshod over him. This could be our chance to turn things around for the citizens of this county.
CG you continue to refuse to answer my direct question.
That proves you are ignorant or apathetic
How so? I think Mrs. Vanzant is doing a great job in spite of those who have done their level best to destroy her. This point will be made over and over again in the community before the August election.
I hope someone can say what was good instead of just saying a good job.
I doubt cg can. He probably "doesn't know enough about it" to answer any questions.
Hey CG one question that was going to be asked to Vanzant ... "What happened to the $6.2 million surplus in the General Fund balance as of July 2006?" This does not include the $15.0 million in the Hospital Fund that was not to be touched by Commission Resolution.
As of today approximately $16.2 million has been spend without any discussions with any citizens.
Please CG enlighten us.
Wonder why cg didn't answer your question 7:22?
Is he waiting for a certain person to enlighten him how to reply or maybe he is just going to ignore your question. I'm betting on ignore because he can't answer.
7:49 Could it be that he feels that his opinions are none of your business and that he doesn't owe you ANYTHING?
Support those of your choosing and stop playing this game. Thank you.
just as you thought,7:49, he cant answer. he needs to just stop cause he is doing more harm than good.
8:27 CG, why is some of your opinions alright for us to hear, but when you are asked you refuse to answer.
When you stop playing this game I will stop.
827 ......if he doesn't want to share an opinion-why would you bother coming to a forum such as this in the first place?---other than to alienate?
He does a good job at alienating.
GTC Asks, for the third time:
Hey CG one question that was going to be asked to Vanzant ... "What happened to the $6.2 million surplus in the General Fund balance as of July 2006?" This does not include the $15.0 million in the Hospital Fund that was not to be touched by Commission Resolution.
As of today approximately $16.2 million has been spend without any discussions with any citizens.
Please CG enlighten us.
I realize that you are busy feeling sorry for yourself; but, live with it and for once answer this straight forward question. If you don't or can't that begs the question. Are you ignorant or just apathetic? Possibly both?
A good leader i.e. County Executive has many responsibilities. One thing that is most important is updating and informing the Commissioners with the correct information needed for them to make educated decisions on whatever they will be voting for. Misinformation is what has gotten this county in the mess it is in today. We need a qualified leader that has the ability to communicate honestly and intelligently with all parties involved,including city leaders. This type of leadership has been very costly to our county taxpayers these past three terms. Another costly action our current Co. Exec did over and over is hired people like Terry Harwell. I never did understand that one. And the time she led the Commissioners to believe it would be cheaper to contract out the janitorial service at the courthouse and annex. Then guess what happened. Yep, another waisted money move and more mis-directed information to Commissioners. The list goes on. We've got to get her out before she carries on her mission to break this county.
12;42:00 I agreed with everything you said up until your last five words. I don't think she actually wants to break our county, I just think she has peter principled out.
12:42
So the war goes on against 7th District and Mrs. Vanzant. This is SOOOO obvious, and we all know why.
12:42 Desperate much?
7:33/8:32, jealous much? You just can't cope with anyone who makes a well-articulated post using facts so you come back with "war" this and "desperate" that. I don't agree that Janet is trying to bankrupt the county on purpose but that's what is happening none the less. How about you show where 12:42 was wrong? That would be a welcome change from your usual grade-school replies.
11:14 Good post and grade-school replies is what I had been thinking.
I noticed someone asked cg a question on one of the threads a few days ago and he skips this thread. When cg ask a question he will post Waiting or something like that for a reply.
GTC Asks, for the fourth time:
Hey CG one question that was going to be asked to Vanzant ... "What happened to the $6.2 million surplus in the General Fund balance as of July 2006?" This does not include the $15.0 million in the Hospital Fund that was not to be touched by Commission Resolution.
As of today approximately $16.2 million has been spend without any discussions with any citizens.
Please CG enlighten us. Like you ... we are waiting.
I realize that you are busy feeling sorry for yourself; but, live with it and for once answer this straight forward question. If you don't or can't that begs the question. Are you ignorant or just apathetic? Possibly both?
Since you have refused to answer this very simple question; I have to assume that you are, in fact, ignorant and apathetic. But, most of us have already realized this.
Yes, this is an attack directly upon you; so, please don't whine. You are pathetic.
Regards GTC
GTC, you will never get an answer from cg because you are dealing in hard facts and indisputable figures. The only way he will address your question is if he can find a way to insult Allen in the process. Thanks for asking a valid question anyway.
10:45 You got that right.
GTC
Your name-calling and attack on me is noted. But I'm really not bothered by that, because I know this is how you guys roll. Furthermore, I know WHO holds tomorrow, and thank God, it's not people like you.
Let me tell you what I've been able to find out about both the General Fund surplus and the Hospital Fund. The plain hard fact of the matter is that there's not enough money to pay the bills anymore. The commission therefore has been using those funds because they knew the people of Giles County would never vote for more taxes. I think what they did was wrong, but again, there's not enough money to pay the bills, pure and simple. It's a bit like robbing Peter to pay Paul. I do not condone what was done, but there you have it. Perhaps the commission should have summoned up the courage to do what's right for the county, even if it's more taxes, which WILL eventually be a reality. As a property owner, I am braced for it. How about you? Do you own property?
I thought Mrs. Garner was the one decided to use the hospital fund without asking the Commissioners. Did the Commissioners ever vote on using it?
She did 7:32 and Vanzant covered for her until Barrett exposed the whole mess and Vanzant had a hissy fit. Why does there have to be more taxes when what we pay now is being wasted and besides that when the property was reassessed most people got a tax increase then so don't say there has been no tax increases I can show you my tax bill.
GTC Responds to CG
This is the very first time I have ever read you providing any sort of any answer to any question, for that I am impressed and thank you.
The Commission passed a resolution to never use the Hospital fund for any purpose, unless the County Executive declared, in writing that an emergency existed. No such degree has come from Vanzant; rather, she directed Ms. Garner to draw down the Hospital Fund especially now that is is attached to the General Fund and is no longer in a stand alone fund.
Vanzant also blew through the General Fund reserves at approximately $2 million per year until that excess was depleted. That is why she has received a salary raise every year for the past 12 years. Last year alone her salary went from $72,463 to $75,804 that is a nice 5% raise. Her current office budget rose 33% over last year. That is what I call fiscal responsibility, leading by example, and having the financial well being of our citizens in mind when spending our money.
You and others have stated that budget cuts have been made that there is no room for any more cuts. I guess that is why our County General Fund Budget has increased $937,891 to over $12 million for the current year over the past year. I fail to see how that is a "cut".
As for your question --- I do own property in Giles County. Slightly over 286 acres, three houses, numerous barns and sheds, livestock and rental units. And, I do pay my taxes which have not gone down for the past 12 years. They have increased approximately 40% without any changes to the properties except that the re-appraisal has always increased. So more taxes are a reality though the rate has not increased.
Cut spending before considering raising any tax.
I suggest that you become familiar with the County finances before you mouth off again and display you ignorance.
Respectfully; GTC
Right on 10:54 A.M. Janet knew all about the money from the beginning. The commissioners get blamed for everything but remember one thing, there are always two signatures on each check written and hers happens to be one of them. So judge for your self. Did she not look at the checks she was signing? I think so. Place the blame on the right one and not the commissioners.
GTC
Do you just routinely spout off and call names whenever anybody disagrees with you? Your post to me started out ok, and I was likewise impressed. But you just couldn't help taking a cheap shot at me about my supposed ignorance. Well, for your information, you are not the only person in Giles County who has a brain. Your problem with me is that I just don't see things as you do. That shows a bit of ignorance on your part, wouldn't you say? The department heads have cut their budgets as much as they can, and that sir, is a fact. Why do think our county roads are coming all to pieces? Oh, and it's not because Mr. Hyatt is lazy or because he is using the money for other purposes. He hasn't the funds to keep the roads up. Ask him. I just used him as an example.
Respectfully,
A Giles County Christian gentleman
GTC to The CG
No I spout off when you display you apathetic ignorance. And, this is not a cheap shot; because you publicly denounce anyone who disagrees with you; regardless of the subject.
I did not discuss the Highway budget or Mr. Hyatt. You did. I am speaking about your favorite girlfriend Vanzant. I do not care if you disagree with me; because you always do.
I do disagree with you supporting your position by using Jesus Christ as you excuse. I too am Christian but I do not condone ignorance and apathy. I have always stood by my opinions without invoking the LORD or Jesus. I too am a gentleman; but I do not condone people who like to use intimidation upon others who disagree with them.
The County departments have had a budget increase every year since 2004. Name one department that has a decrease. Not a decrease in what they asked for but a decrease in what they received. I doubt that you can name a single County department budget that has taken a decrease in any of the past 12 years. Much less than the County Executive herself.
Please explain why Vanzant has received an increase every year for the past 12 years????? That is true leadership.
Just as a simple example that even you should be able to understand......Why has the Giles County Office of Emergence Management gone from $2,900 in 2004 to over $3000,000 in 2014??????
If you can give all of us a lucid answer to this question I will support your position.
Good Luck... GTC
As an aside.... How much property do you own????? Since you brought up the question.
7:10
Mr. Barrett...
I don't have to give you an answer, lucid or otherwise, to support my position on anything. First of all, it's none of your business. Secondly, why should I bother. Anything I say would be shot down by you guys, and I would be called some derogatory name.
You smart remark that I use Christ as an excuse is both a lie and an insult. Why do you even go there? I thought you guys were all against anybody trying to presume what lies within the hearts of others? Is that no longer the case? Isn't that judging? I believe that's exactly what you did.
You say you don't condone ignorance and apathy? I had to laugh. Well, do you condone calling people ignorant bastards and things of that nature simply because it's free speech? Would you condone someone calling you or a loved one a name like that? Just asking is all.
You mentioned that you do not condone those who use intimidation on those who disagree. I think that's precisely what you do. I sometimes wonder if you even know it.
Lastly, and as you know, the ONLY reason I ever used Christian to identify myself is because you demanded proof that I would never knowingly go along with things that are wrong. That's the best proof I could give you, and all I got is criticism from you and your one or two allies here. And to define myself as a gentleman came about because your buddies kept referring to me as a female.
Now, I'm sure you will come back with a few colorful names to call me and stinging comments. So be it, and so much for free speech.
GTC informs the CG
You are paranoid. You truly have a fixation regarding your bitterness towards Mr. Barrett. You see him everywhere.
Possibly I now can provide you with a bit of peace I am not Allen Barrett. I am taller, younger and live near the Lawrence County line. And, I too do not care for how Allen Barrett presents his arguments.
You now can concentrate on providing an answer to my simplistic question.
GTC
6:44
Enabler,
Why do you come here to post? Is it just to attack Allen Barrett?
And no I am not Allen Barret.
7:12/7:45
Yes, I'm afraid your question was rather simplistic. But again, O don't owe you ANY explanations. Why can't you understand that?
And I knew you would have to come back with a name. Enabler is a lie that you know who told on me. How many times does that have to be explained to you.
I still think you just might be none other than William Allen Barrett, the self-appointed muckraker of Giles County, posting anonymously again. I could be wrong.
Poor, Poor, Poor CG he is all alone and sooooo sad. He knows that everyone is against him and he is paranoid. He is incapable of answering simplistic question. But, he love to needle others because he cannot do anything else.
Poor, Poor, Poor CG
Let us all have a pitty party for him
7:45
Nope. And Enabler is the lie that he told. He is unrepentant and unapologetic for it. You want to keep bringing this up? Go for it. I will call it a lie as many times as you do.
GTC to the CG
I am 7:12 but not 7:45 as you have assumed. My premise that you are paranoid is beginning to be proved true
8:40 You and your premise...haha. You call me paranoid, and I see you as totally delusional. Is 7:45 by chance your alter ego?
Could you answer a "simplistic" question for me? Are you Mr. Barrett or just a close member of the family?
Guess that old saying about what assume does to people. Looks like cg is calling GTC and everyone else liars if they admit being anyone other than Allen Barrett. Looks like the guy has gone over the edge again.
I'll engage as a new 'Anonymous' editorialist. This banter started w/ some interesting dialogue & quickly descended into personal bickering & squabbling. Pathetic. It's pathetic because we have a county that we all love & enjoy, and hopefully have a shared vision for a financially healthy & economically prosperous county for children & grandchildren. We need to get beyond individual personalities, the paranoia & name-calling, and focus on facts. Those who are unpersuadable with data and documentation are better off left to themselves ... let them wax contentedly on their virtual flat-earth. As an old boss of mine used to say, "Let the lemmings go over the cliff." Many of us, though, don't want to be carried over the cliff, so we engage in debate to persuade those w/ a modicum of logic & deliberation.
Some of those lacking logic & reason (or rather, ignoring their inherent reason) seem more intent on learning the true identity of other posters, then seethe about our county not having enough revenue. As if we all just need another good round of plundering private property. (Please, please before you ask for more taxes, read Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt.)
For those who support JVZ, I wish y'all would just provide evidence & documentation on why you believe she's been great for the financial health of our county. Accountable to the people? Responsible? Transparent? Engage in reasonable debate - support your positions. Sway me to support her. It's a free speech zone after all. But also recognize that if your documentation stinks to high heaven and your logic is non-existent, you're going to be called out for ignorance. And calling out ignorance and making corrections to false premises is what political debate is all about. We just don't need to descend into personal rancor.
cg Did you not ask this?
As a property owner, I am braced for it. How about you? Do you own property?
Thursday, April 17, 2014 7:16:00 AM"
Then when GCT asked you about your property you got your drawers in a wad. laughable
Sorry 9:47 for this post, I do agree with what you said.
9:47 you are one among several that has asked for Mrs. Vanzant's qualifications and honest proof as to what she has done to improve the county. All that ever comes out is rambling nonsense from CG. He is so blinded by his hatred of Mr. Barrett that he can't see straight.
GTC to the supposed CG:
No I am not Allen Barrett as I have stated before. I am younger, Taller and live in western Giles County near the Lawrence County line.
I do hope that this response to you question is sufficient.
and, yest you are delusional for you are seeing Allen Barrett in every closet and on every blog post.
We who are watching you do enjoy your paranoia. You are such a laugh.
Now back to reality..... "do you own property"?
I foresee your response as this is none of my business. However, it is much your business to stick you very long nose in others business. In short What is good for you is not for others.
GTC
OK ... I guess my name is 9:47 now :)
So JVZ has her supporters, 2nd cousins, etc who will vote for her come what may. No need to discuss her qualifications or 12-year record w/ them.
Then there's the rest of us who need to weigh Stowe & Lindsey. Stowe has shared an extensive record & list of qualification on his website, and its exemplary. Lindsey is a question mark for me. A 20-yr military veteran - what was his retiring rank? He mentions a nuclear command of some sort - how dated was that? - was he a junior officer or was it a major command? I expect a 20-yr officer to retire at least as a LTC (O5) ... I don't see him stating that anywhere. If an Army officer spends 20 years & doesn't make LTC, something went wrong somewhere. Anyone have more details? Time for us to weigh the qualifications of our 2 best options & get behind one of them. No need for sensible voters to split between these 2 & usher JVZ in for another 4 yr spending spree.
Have y'all noticed that when anyone post a comment with specifics about departmental spending,cg accuses them of being Allen? That is a classic, sad thing bipolar people do to look smart. If you pay attention, cg is always saying,"are you stupid or just acting that way?" I honestly don't think he can help it. He really doesn't realize what he is doing. That doesn't make it any less frustrating, but it does explain why he is the way he is. That being said, I don't think there's anything we can do to help him until he's ready to help himself. Until that happens, he's going to be the same arrogant, obnoxious asshole that we've all come to expect.
Mr. Barrett
Since you said you apparently have no problem with someone being called an "ignorant bastard", what about the name used in the last paragraph of the 3:49 post? Does blog "journalism" trump decency? WWJD?
What's wrong cg? Isn't the 3:49 post Allen Barrett himself? If so, hasn't he already made up his mind about said post? BTW fool, it's only blog "journalism" if the blog master writes it. Otherwise, it's just an opinion.
8:31
I got it. You just like to argue. Isn't that it? You act like you don't have good sense, and I'm sorry to have to tell you that. But I'm sure I'm not the first one who has let you know.
I don't need a definition form you about what constitutes journalism, but thanks anyway. I was going to get into a discussion of the concept with you but decided it would be a waste of time.
Come on cg Barrett already told you that he personally is offended by the term you wrote but thought censorship was worse. What is your personal feeling about abortions, I already know but the point is you can't stop abortions regardless of how you feel about it, you like me can only make our personal choices and let others make theirs.
Why don't you get off Barrett and focus on the topics that are posted.
8:11 Filthy language does not trump Christianity. I stand totally opposed to abortions.
You mentioned our making personal choices. Can't you see that we also should have that freedom as well when it comes to our opinions? I've been called every name in the book for expressing mine here on this blog.
As for Barrett, I'd simply like him to answer that question without3 ducking, dodging, and otherwise writing an epistle. Just a yes or no would suffice.
cg, you have freedom to post what ever you want on this, blog as you do.
Is it Christianity to keep reading what you believe and know will be fitly language? There is no pleasing you. Barret has already answered your question, but you probably didn't read that so you could keep up your pitiful cry.
Hey CG
How about you answering a simple question that was asked by GTC???? "Do you own property?"
Or, are you going to duck and/or dodge?
cg, I don't need your validation of my intelligence, but thanks anyway. As for my assistance with definitions, look the words up and perhaps I won't have to help you. You're welcome.
But Enabler, remember you are responsible for your posts anonymous or not. If they are false and meant to defame others then you have to answer for them. I'll see you soon face to face.
8:39/8:42/10:41/12:18
My, but you are busy busy today.
Please allow me to `attempt to answer your questions.
First of all, when I first mentioned the idea of property owners footing the bills, I SAID that, as a property owner, I don't think it's fair or something to that effect. I did acknowledge from the outset that I own property. How much or how little is not your concern.
Secondly, It is very much the Christian thing to do to ask that the filthy language cease. I'm just surprised that it is allowed on this particular blog.
Thirdly, I don't recall anyone attempting to validate you in any way whatsoever. I do however, wonder sometimes if you allow yourself the freedom to think on your own two feet.
Lastly, exactly what false or defaming statements have I made? I get the impression that you are trying to threaten me. How childish. How does that harmonize with free speech?
You are really gonna have to seek help with these delusions you suffer from. I'm "thirdly" in your post, but I don't know who in the hell the others are. See, this is part of what everyone is talking about. You see yourself so right that, in your mind, there is no way there could be so many who see you wrong. Your solution? Delude yourself into thinking one person, usually Allen, made all the comments. If anyone else were doing that, you would be the first to say they needed therapy. I've seen you write that before for much lesser transgressions of what you consider to be mental stability.
I do appreciate, however, the fact that you are against increased property taxes. I am as well. But surely you aren't naive enough to believe it will stop there. Our current administration, at least some of them, will not be content until we have a wheel tax AS WELL as a property tax increase. Wheel taxes were first implemented to be a temporary solution to an immediate, crucial problem. That being said, when have you ever seen one be eliminated or even decreased? That is my concern with wheel and other taxes. Once there in, there in for good. We need to control our spending and then I'm sure if something came along that was absolutely necessary, the citizens would go along with a tax increase. Only, however, if they spend the money they already have responsibly. Now I've had my say, so please, don't try and group me in with other posts that find problems with some of your ideas. I assure you, if I post multiple times I'll say," Hey cg, it's me again." Fair enough?
cg the problem with you isn't that you have opinions but that you try to pass them on to others and when they ask for some kind of proof for those opinions you get your butt on your shoulders and have a hissy fit. Have all the opinions you want and for any reason you want but don't expect others to accept your opinions as fact until you supply some proof to support those opinions.
6:30
And you have my word that I would campaign against anybody in county government who favors both a wheel tax and more property taxes. We are finding it hard enough to pay our property taxes as they are right now.
Deluding myself? Not so. If I included your post in with the other guy, then I will do the right thing and apologize. They were all so close together that I just figured it was more of the same. My bad.
Apology accepted. Happy Easter, CG. And to everyone else as well, Happy Easter. I noticed no comments on the Easter topic as of yet, but it's a very good read. Thanks Allen.
I commend each individual for their time of service and defense of this country.
I do not believe military leadership and public/private leadership are the same. Also, as pointed out here, understanding of budgeting and finance are important to this counties future, budgeting is something the government/military leadership is known for either. The current president of the United States commands the largest military in the world, graduated from a world renown school, and is over one of the largest economies in the world, but I don’t think the blog would refer to him as a great leader. Then again, nothing brings out the lower traits of human nature like office-seeking. Men of good character and impulses are betrayed by it into all sorts of meanness.
Miller Fillmore
Because the president is an arrogant incompetent idealist child doesn't mean everyone under him is as incompetent. Look at the military budget for instance and the massive cuts they have taken. It takes a good leader to be able to function and be productive under those restraints. The county is broke and there needs to be a change in the leadership that broke us. Mrs Vanzant is supporting both a property tax and a wheel tax. Of course she denies this to voters but I have been in the meetings where she told commissioners that was the only way to fix the problem.
I agree a military leader is different from a civilian leader because a military leader has to be more innovative and disciplined and if they don't function properly they lose their jobs and people die.
The only difference between military leadership and Public/private is the military has a lot more responsibility. That's why companies like to hire people with military leadership experience.
That isn't a true statement, 4:10.
Miller
You are so right. We see proof of that meanness right here.
Anybody that has been up close and personal with a President of the United States...well, nothing else needs to be said. You don't get that job my being incompetent.
10:02:00 Ain't that the truth! One just needs check out Captain Stowe's website: votestowe.com to realize that we Giles Countians have one heck of an opportunity to elect a REAL leader. Super nice guy and family too.
Well .... The School Board has passed a BALANCED BUDGET and the School System Fund balance is increasing...
Let's see if the County can do as well? Possibly the CG can provide them with fiscal insight and how to be frugal.
But don't worry, Janet Vanzant his hero is doing a great job.
Balanced Budget???? Well HELL. Neither Richland nor Giles County High made the top 10 best High Schools in the nation list this year. Maybe next year.
3:11
Mrs. Vanzant is doing a great job in spite of those like you who just cannot resist takin4g shots at her. Vote for and support your candidate and try to respect the rights of others to do the same. My vote and support lies with out county executive, Janet Vanzant.
3:11 I am not a WAB supporter, nor do I come to this blog very often, but Janet Vanzant has done a HORRIBLE job as county executive. She has shown no leadership abilities. Under her leadership, money has been lost, reserve funds have been used, and our money has been mismanaged.
We have wasted time getting infrastructure to exit 14. It is a goldmine waiting to be tapped.
This woman may be nice, but she never should have been elected.
So true. We have got to get that lady out. Spread the word and for goodness sake, tell all your friends and family members about Graham Stowe! I thought she wasn't going to run this time. What happened?
It was posted sometime since the last election Mrs. Vanzant wasn't going to run again. Guess she just couldn't give it up.
9:36
I would strongly disagree with your post. I believe Mrs. Vanzant has done a great job in spite of those who seek her demise on every hand. They have tried every trick in the book to belittle and smudge her, but she remains undaunted and unafraid. Gosh, you have to respect that, don't you?
I too am spreading the word to family, friends, and neighbors about my convictions. Now is not the time to be trying out a new county executive. And my biggest concern is that at least one of them seems to be backed by the radicals. THAT should concern every voter.
As for Mrs. Vanzant's running again, I too had heard sometime in the past that she was not going to run again. Anyhow, she changed her mind and has a right to do so. I'm glad.
7:29 again a person raves about Mrs. Vanzant yet says nothings about what she had done to improve the county. Nor explained about what she has cost the county.
It seems the State Department is having the same problem with Hillary Clinton that CG is having with Janet Vanzant; neither can name a single positive accomplishment.
7:29 It was widely rumored that Eddie Bass was going to run for County Executive. THAT, in my opinion, is why Janet said she was not going to run. She knew she had NO chance beating Eddie. But when he decided not to run, that left the gate wide open, so she changed her mind.
Vote for whomever you want. I will base my vote on the candidates' qualifications and their character.
I love how you are trying to tie a candidate to the "radicals" although I'm not sure which candidate you are referring to. I seriously doubt that either man would be in anybody's pocket. But keep the drum beat going. Personal attacks, rumor and innuendo are how you guys roll. It's all you got when you have a candidate with such a lack luster record.
Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:29:00 AM
And you don't try to smear any candidate. What a joke you are.
4:44
Mrs. Vanzant has my vote and support. In fact, I am working hard for her. What about that?
Now is not the time to take a chance on having someone who can be influenced and manipulated by the radicals here in Giles County. And neither you nor I can say without a doubt that this would not happen.
Now...why don't you just support whichever candidate you choose and respect my right to vote my preference?
10:03:00 Boy you guys kill me with all the talk about "radicals". What a joke! The only person that is in anybody's pocket is Janet Vanzant and the good old boy network that has been in power forever. Sure would hate to see that broken up.
9:49:00 Good post.
10:42
You know as well as I do who some of the radicals are and who one of their leaders is. They are troublemakers to the rotten core, and Giles County would be so much better off if they decided to go somewhere else and build their own utopia. This world is an imperfect place made up of imperfect people, including them. It's unfortunate that they can't understand that.
As I said, my family and friends plan on voting for Mrs. Vanzant. We have also committed to helping her in any way we can. You see, we haven't bought into all this hate and jealousy, and we do not see her as an evil tyrant. Thank God we have Mrs. Vanzant.
Thank God no self proclaimed Christian gentlemen are on here calling people names.
You just can't let it go, can you?
If you are talking about Barrett being a radical you are farther from the truth than the sun is to earth. He is about the most conservative Constitutional supporting person I know of. If you would spend some time reading the Constitution and writings for the founders you would be supporting Barrett instead of being so opposed without reason.
Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:03:00 PM
A good opportunity to support Mrs. Vanzant would of been at the Minor Hill Fish Fry, Saturday night.
You don't seem to be hurting yourself working for her.
You did not understand what they meant by working for her 9:14.
Was the question ever answered if an non-certified computer programmer, who has a vested interest in the outcome of the elections still allowed to access the voting machines?
8:59 You can't be serious.
Did our illustrious governor have anything to do with killing the open carry bill? That's the rumor. He's a definite one-termer. If the teachers being against him wasn't enough, this will do him in. Good!
7:11 Now if we can get rid of the governor and vanzant, things might get better.
8:40
G1etting rid of Haslam is a must. In like manner, re-electing Mrs. Vanzant is a must.
Liking or disliking the Governor is each persons choice. However what ever you feel for the man you should respect the office. Therefore it is Governor Haslam and not Haslam.
6:47 Good post.
He's haslam to me. I did respect Governor Bredesen. And he (haslam) is history when he comes up for election.
We'll see.
I would not bet the farm on that 7:17.
Governor Haslam isn't going anywhere. A few lazy teachers aren't going to sway an election. He has more business and common sense than anyone I can remember being in that office.
5:49 Oh, you underestimate the number of teachers who dislike haslam. Ask a few of them and find out for yourself.
When I talk to teachers who actually got into the education field for the right reasons, they have a positive outlook on the route Governor Haslam is taking the Tn Education System. Maybe you just didn't expect to have to work? You could always be a substitute.
8:43
You are so TOTALLY wrong about what the teachers think of haslam. He's a one-termer, and I can't wait to cast my vote against him.
Some of you are putting the horse ahead of the cart. Governor Haslam will be in office for another term. It's about time someone separated the teachers from those that just to show up.
A teacher should know to capitalize a person's name.
Remember CG not liking it when someone didn't capitalize the C in cg. He use to not capitalize Barrett's name.
Sure hope 6:45 isn't a teacher.
Oh 2:44, now he has a "vested interest in the outcome of the election ". What else are you going to imply?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You did not understand what they meant by working for her 9:14.
Thursday, April 24, 2014 2:44:00 PM
I'm not sure of what you mean. I meant not doing a good job working for her to get reelected.
The fish fry would of been a good place to ask for votes. Around 500 people was there.
1:41
Do you realize that people DO have a life apart from their jobs? They do.
I would say that Mrs. Vanzant would have been at Minor Hill had she been able. Why don't you just stop this mess? Vote for your candidate and leave it at that?
By the way, was your candidate at the VFW breakfast this past Saturday morning? Mrs. Vanzant was. I went with a friend to eat and saw her.
5:58
Thanks for that little tip of being at the VFW breakfast, now I know who you are.
From most of your post I think you are referring of Mr.Barrett being my candidate. If I can't vote for them, they aren't my candidate Now what about that?
That was a good breakfast wasn't it.
Too bad Mr. B. wasn't there, guess that was why Mrs. V. felt safe in going.
Just now getting to check out the blog. I've seen Mrs. Vanzant at Minor Hill's fish fry before and missed seeing her this time. I happen to like the lady!!!
6:49
I wasn't there very long, but the atmosphere was nice and the food was great. Mrs. Vanzant was very nice and appreciative of the warm reception she got. But I don't think she would have stayed away because of Allen Barrett. Was he there later on?
5:16 How do you know how Mrs. Vanzant felt about the way she was treated at the VFW breakfast? I don't doubt she appreciated the warm reception, but you seem to always know what others think, just think that's strange.
I don't know if Allen Barrett went to the breakfast or not. Someone posted they thought she stayed from Minor Hill because of Commissioner Jackson, was he at the breakfast?
7:19
Isn't that hearsay?
No ding-a-ling. I read it,didn't hear it.
Are you Mrs. vanzant. Must be to know what she thinks.
9:08
Yes, it was hearsay. You repeated what someone else had to say, even though it was in written and not verbal form. Surely, you understand that.
I thought you guys stood against hearsay.
No, I am not Mrs. Vanzant. I'm just an individual who appreciates her leadership and will do all I can to help her.
Hearsay? If a person thought Mrs Vanzant didn't want to be around Commissioner Jackson and posted it how does that make it hearsay? Ears didn't hear it, eyes read it.
9:16 That's like saying I'm a Christian and posting anonymous. No one knows if you told the truth or not.
I could post I'm white when I'm really black. You can't see or don't know me so it proves nothing.
9:16
Oh please tell me you are more intelligent than that. To repeat what you hear someone else say, it is hearsay, even if you read it.
For all of your information, Janet Vanzant was at the Minor Hill fish fry.
5:13 I was a server and if she was there she didn't eat anything.
When she came before she always went around and spoke to people. Seems funny no one saw her.
5:13 Do you always make up lies?
What was going on at the courthouse annex the night of the Minor Hill Fish Fry?
CG, do you think it was them Republicans having a secret meeting?
You are the most pathetic bunch of people I've ever heard of. It is cute though that you think just because you didn't see her no one else did. I know quite a few people that saw her. I saw her leaving with to go boxes. If you weren't there from the very beginning, you probably could've missed quite a few people.
MRS. VANZANT WAS AT THE MINOR HILL FISH FRY AT 530 TO 600PM ..
7:33
Thanks for informing the naysayers. They aren't happy with anybody or anything.
Why did she not speak to anyone or many like she usually did. I was there before 5 and after 6 and didn't see her.
What took you so long to say she was there?
7:59 What DIFFERENCE does it make? Just because YOU didn't see Mrs. Vanzant doesn't mean she wasn't there. Perhaps she had to leave in a hurry but wanted to at least make an appearance because she knew someone like you would have something negative to say about her. Maybe you are mad because she didn't have time to speak to you? Is that it?
7:27 Are you sure you was there? How was the fish? Was there a big crowd?
I didnt see you there so YOU MUST NOT HAVE ATTENDED. I JUST READ THIS CRAP LAST NIGHT. NOT A REGULAR BITCHER LIKE YOU.! Fish was awful and overcooked.
Who are these Giles County Patriots? Are they that same small group of Republicans who seem bent on destroying their party in Giles County? I'm just asking.
10:57 Since you and me both are anonymous, you don't know if I was there and I don't know if you was there.
Glad you joined the bitching crowd. lol
Oh, yes, glad I didn't go if what you said about the fish was true.
Ask CG? Or is that you?
Read and think which of these two would make the best County Executive.
http://www.votestowe.com/about-graham.html
https://www.facebook.com/ElectDannyLindsey?ref=stream
2:33
I'm sure each of Mrs. Vanzant's opponents are good people, but I must vote for and support her. Now is not the time for on-the-job training, and we certainly cannot take a chance on a county executive who may or may not be in the pocket of the radicals.
I know that's not what you want to hear, but it's the reality of the situation.
Time for change.
Read and think which of these two would make the best County Executive.
http://www.votestowe.com/about-graham.html
https://www.facebook.com/ElectDannyLindsey?ref=stream
8:41 cg Your post was an attack against the men just tried to twist it didn't you.
You think they have to have on the job training and they can't do it.
You think these two men can stand up to people.
Everyone knows WAB is who you are against. Can you prove either one of these men are friends with WAB? They can't help it who supports them any more than Mrs. Vanzant can help how you act while pretending to support her. You hurt her more than you do her good.
I've heard several people say, "I always liked Mrs. Vanzant, but after the way the enabler/Cg acts I can't support any more." Call it gossip if you want to but it was just a friendly discussion on the up coming election in August.
8:41 You sound like we have terrorist in Giles County wanting to take over. It's just someone you don't like. How so sad.
I think the people we elect for office is just like getting married, you don't really know them until they get elected or you marry them.
They may be the best thing there ever was or they may have a few bad things against them.
9:41/1:53
That's a lie. I never said one negative word about Mrs. Vanzant's opponents. I NEVER SAID these men can't stand up to people who cause trouble. What I DID SAY is that, because of the radicals and troublemakers, NOW is not the time for on-the-job training.
You bet I am against Mr. Barrett gaining any political office here. As I have said numerous times in the past, I believe he has some good ideas, but the way he behaves concerns me most. I have a right to my belief that he is NOT who we need representing 7th or any of our Districts. Ok? There are others I would just as soon see voted out, but they are not on this blog trying to malign their opponents. They are not out in the community stirring up trouble either. Ok?
Pretending to support Mrs. Vanzant? You have got to be kidding. The more I hear from people like you, the more determined I am to work even harder for her. The attempt to bully and intimidate her will not work. You guys should know that by now. Actually, I'm confident that I have helped Mrs. Vanzant in the past and will continue to do so in spite of the names you call me.
When did Mr. Barrett begin to run for county executive? I thought he was running for 7th District Commissioner.
One commissioner can't run Giles County.
7:24 I guess the others you would like to see out of office is the ones that don't "Yes, Mrs. Vanzant."
enabler/cg is scared to death that Barrett will be elected and put a stop to him and his buddies for their continuing rape of the county. One commissioner can't change everything but the fear of Barrett in the enabler/cg is so great he can't think rationally anymore if he ever did.
One thing I no is if Barrett was elected there would be some major changes simply because he's not afraid to challenge the status quo and those behind it.
In one post, in reference to the County Executive Race, the statement is made that “now is not the time for change”.
Over and over I hear the same people repeating this same phrase. Have you ever stopped to think what this phrase actually means? I fully agree that change for the simple sake of change isn’t necessarily very productive and I completely agree that if something is working smoothly you don’t try and fix it.
The question is do you really think that the county is working smoothly or that we are doing all the right things? Before you answer that question consider that of all the counties in Middle Tennessee and most all the counties in the state Giles County is the only one that has actually lost population. Is that what shouldn’t be changed?
While surrounding counties are growing their tax base with jobs and businesses Giles County is spending over $200,000.00 a year for an industrial and business office that has done little to actually grow the county which currently has over a 10% unemployment rate and close to 20% among some ethnic groups. Is this what shouldn’t change?
Over the past eight years, while Mrs. Vanzant has been the County Executive, the county has failed to create a budget that did not use over a million dollars of reserves. The current proposed budget calls for over a million dollars more in spending than is brought in, this is in spite of the large increase in property taxes from the reassessment. Is that what shouldn’t be changed?
During the past eight years the “hospital money” that was supposed to have been in a “lock box” has been spent. Is that what shouldn’t be changed?
Over the past eight years the school buildings have been allowed to deteriorate to a point that some are a hazard to our children. Is that what shouldn’t be changed?
The county has become known as a place where you can only get a “government” job if you know the right people or related to the right person. Is that what shouldn’t be changed?
There is little to no encouragement from the county executive for new business or already established businesses. Is that what shouldn’t be changed?
In the past eight years the rift between the county and the City of Pulaski has widened. Until recently there was no representation on the Airport Committee. There is no effective involvement in the EDC/IDB even though the county is contributing a huge amount of taxes to both. Is this what should not be changed?
Currently Giles County has one of the highest property tax rates in the state. Is that what shouldn’t be changed?
There currently exists an atmosphere of mistrust and preferential treatment. Is that what shouldn’t be changed?
1:44
I'm not the least bit worried about Barrett winning any election other than the May Republican Primary. He was unopposed! What a laugh. Even if he were elected, he would only be ONE person among 21 commissioners, and he would see very fast that he still wouldn't have much power by himself. Oh, I'm sure he would cause a lot of trouble, and I often wonder why he would want to work around so many who can't seem to stand him. He has alienated a lot of people, many of whom are commissioners.
No, I am not at all worried. In fact, I'd like to be among the first to congratulate him on his solid fifth place finish in the upcoming August election. What about that? When he loses this time, will he blame it on someone else again?
I've been out listening to gossip today. Several that are for Mrs. Vanzant said if Mrs. Vanzant don't put a muzzle on the enabler/cg she is going to loose this election.
He rants and raves about what others are doing while doing the same thing, but just can't see it.
Just been out asking questions like cg said for us to do. First I asked about Barrett, then vanzant.
You are correct, 7:30. For there not to be but a few who read this blog, there certainly are many who know of the mentally deficient cg. The main one he is trying to convince seems to be himself. There needs to be a new word created for the level of hypocrisy he brings.
Noticed cg isn't posting much today. I have always thought he has to ask someone else to help him with his post.
7:30 I think they have that right. I have also heard if Mrs. Vanzant don't put a muzzle on CG she will loose this election.
He is doing her more harm than good. Could that possible be what he intends?
8:40/9:04
I think for myself, and we all should try to do that. I don't rely on someone else to tell me what to think or who to resent. You should try that.
You said you have "heard"? Isn't that the hearsay you guys are so against? Or does it only apply to those who don't see things as you do?
12:01 Have you not posted on this thread "ask around town?" Then you get your panties in a wad when they say they did. You didn't like what they heard did you?
One rule for little cg and another for other people.
Yeah, cg really thinks for himself. That's why he spreads gossip and relays what he "hears" around town. That sounds like a person who hasn't had an original thought in a long time, don't it?
Here's an original thought. You guys just can't stand an opposing view. That's hard to handle for you, and I find it laughable and yet pathetic.
8:55 Can you? I don't think so. You are in the middle of it all.
You seem to think your way is the only way and you are the reason so much has been said against Mrs. V.
It's you people don't like and Mrs. Vanzant is the one being hurt because of you.
You complain about what others post. They have as much right to bitch and whine as you.
I think you might be just a little off with to much time on your hands. Now that's laughable and pathetic.
Damn cg, what is original about that thought? It's the same one you've been posting since you've been on here. Get some new material. I'm sure your therapist can suggest some for you.
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