Fireworks At The School Board or Just a Fizzle of Smoke?
Seems there may have been some raised blood pressures at the School Board Meeting last night, 12 June.
It seems some are chaffing under the strong leadership of Dr. Webb and have reached out to some School Board Members to bring down their wrath on the Superintendent.
There can be no question about Dr. Webb having turned the school system upside down, but that seems to have been exactly what he was hired to do. Has his methods been easy or smooth no, but neither has been the task. Some have been removed from comfortable positions, some removed unfairly, some have been challenged to greater performance, some have been replaced by those far less competent.
When you have a school system with as many inherited problems as this one a shake up is required, just as with the county as a whole. Too much was let slide over the years with the emphasis on the "painted
facade" while the foundations continued to deteriorate.
The only surprise in this, to me, is that it took so long to catch on to the total sham created by the former Superintendent, now there seems to be a rush to condemn by some who were instrumental in creating the problem by their in-action with the former superintendent.
It seems some are chaffing under the strong leadership of Dr. Webb and have reached out to some School Board Members to bring down their wrath on the Superintendent.
There can be no question about Dr. Webb having turned the school system upside down, but that seems to have been exactly what he was hired to do. Has his methods been easy or smooth no, but neither has been the task. Some have been removed from comfortable positions, some removed unfairly, some have been challenged to greater performance, some have been replaced by those far less competent.
When you have a school system with as many inherited problems as this one a shake up is required, just as with the county as a whole. Too much was let slide over the years with the emphasis on the "painted
facade" while the foundations continued to deteriorate.
The only surprise in this, to me, is that it took so long to catch on to the total sham created by the former Superintendent, now there seems to be a rush to condemn by some who were instrumental in creating the problem by their in-action with the former superintendent.
posted by Allen Barrett | 5:24 PM
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That has to be one of the most vague and poorly written topics I have ever seen.
Clearly you are trying to start more bitching.
Just wait until several people post and pick the most politically gainful side, Barrett. You sure as hell didn't give one initially. You are turning into Obama more every day.
Inherited problems.......Yes, he has inherited problems and shame on Jim Greene and Rhonda Turner. Turner doesn't even show up for board meetings and wants the man fired because he is moving people around. Shame, shame. Not sure what problem Greene has with the super. These two do not need to be re-elected people. Not saying that I agree with all the actions the super has taken, however, financially we are much better off and I am glad people are on pins and needles about their jobs. Those of us in the private sector go thru it everyday. I wouldn't have his job, but what Greene tried to pull last night should be cause enough for voters NOT to put him back on the school board. Let Webb do his job.
Would someone elaborate? Is this supposed to be news or some private conversation that is better over the phone?
WAB were you at the meeting?
Well, if I clearly take one side or the other I get attacked, If I don't take a side I get attacked, so I put sometime on that some don't even understand and I still get attacked.
Let me put it as clear as I can. I disagree with Dr. Webb on some of his decisions and methods, I am especially opposed to the "common core" liberal circus. The facts are simple Dr. Webb has done what he was asked to do, the budget is not a smoke and mirror crap shoot, there is a plan fore the first time in many years, teachers and administrators are being challenged away from their comfort zone and the system is in better shape than it has been in recent years.So far I would give him an overall score of 90 with a notation to be more inclusive and considerate of the Board and individual personnel in those personnel decisions.
Let's explain the budget that he so boastfully balanced. It you are being sent 2 million dollars from the state and hiding 500,000, you will always look good. There will always be money to HAVE that was hidden. It is a smoke screen that he has pulled over on the board. He also knew that there is a 45 day window on each side of the election that prohibits the board from making major decisions. He was going to send out more letters of transfer and dismissals after the board meeting to avoid the board knowing or being able to do something aobut it. Greene saw what he was doing and reacted accordingly. For the supporters of Webb, you have no idea what he has been doing to the education of this county. He and Cindy Young have WRONGED enough people that they should be run out of town. He is the poorest Sup't or Director that we have had since David Little. This man was a Commissioner of Education for the state of Tennessee and doesn't know S... He ruined Cheatham County. Giles County is quickly following the same road.
He spent $203,000 on paving at Richland. We can't afford books, but the parking lot will look good.
Mr. Barrett ignore the great Christian Gentleman. You couldn't please him if you offered him a ride and his car was broke down on the side of the road and it was 5 degrees and he he didn't have a coat
Yes the parking lot looks really really good and the folks at Richland are proud of it.
I find myself agreeing with WAB. Dr. Webb inherited a mess, a mess that was 10 years in the making. Those benefiting from the way business was done under the former Director are the very ones who now leading the attack on Dr. Webb.
The School Board is a POLICY making board, elected to establish policy and procedure for the educational system, adopt a budget and hire a Director to run the school system. They are not elected to MICRO MANAGE day to day operatiions which is what several of them seem to have as a personal agenda.
The theme from Board Members GREENE and TURNER Thursday night was accusations that Dr. Webb was "unprofessional" in his dealings with certain personnel issues relating to transfers and pay cuts. The rant from those two went on and on. GREENE and TURNER showed everyone Thursday night that they themselves do not know the proper way to handle a personnel issue.
GREENE and TURNER and the other Board Members need to go back and relearn what their duties as board members are, and it has nothing to do with personnel issues such as hiring, firing and transfers within the school system. They were elected to adopt policy. If they wanted to make personnel decisions in the school system then they should apply for the Job of Director of Schools.
Since GREENE and TURNER can't seem to be embarrassed by their actions let me say that I was embarrassed for them. Unprofessional does not come close to describing the actions of these two.
I hope Dr. Webb stays the course and cleans house. He has balanced the budget for the last two years and made much needed repairs to our school facilities. If the people who orchestrated the attack on Dr. Webb succeed in their agenda, then Giles County will go back to the days of Tee Jackson.
Dear 12:30 AM,
I was at the meeting too, but took away a different perspective than you. I understood that the Policy stated Dr. Webb was to inform the Board in advance of any transfers and he admitted he didn't do that. The Policy also stated everything was due by May 15th (which doesn't make any sense because school isn't over), but isn't he supposed to abide by the policies? Or do the teachers have to be the only ones held to the policies?
One thing that keeps sticking in my mind that no one has mentioned is that Greene started his talking off by stating anyone seeing anything illegal should call the police. Did no one else think this was an odd statement leading into the discussion on Dr. Webb?
I agree that the board should go back and know exactly what their roles are before making fools of themselves. I guarantee you Webb knows the policies... what he can legally do or legally not do. Personnel issues should be his to make not the board. Let us not be a "hick town" and finally get this mess cleaned up.
I lift a pint to Mr. Greene and Mrs. Turner for upholding the duties of office bestowed upon them by the people. The remaining board members shall forever reflect upon their failure to address known character flaws combined with destructive leadership directives issued by the standing Superintendent.
The budget is balanced by deception. The management tactics empowered by the commandant will continue to erode morale filtering downward into the ranks. And without question the personal actions of the superintendent should be reported to the proper authorities.
Klugscheißer
Dear 1:06 AM
Policy 5.115 Assignment/Transfer
“The Director of Schools shall transfer employees as necessary for the efficient operation of the Schools.”
“Individual Board members shall be notified of transfers 5 business days in advance of the transfer whenever practical or as soon as possible thereafter”
So technically he did not have to make the board aware before the transfers only after. Yes, I think management and teachers should follow board policy.
It comes down to this. The Board Members should set the standard of Professional Conduct at meetings and they should also know their role. GREENE’s opening statements of “Rumors” and if you see something illegal going on “call the police” is just one example of the Unprofessional statements made at this meeting. This was staged, and those who wanted to see it were in attendance.
Those who are involved in this are doing it for their own selfish reasons, their “wronged” and “entitled” mentality. If they win then things will go back to the way it was before, the children of Giles County deserve better than this.
Dear 1:06 AM
Policy 5.115 Assignment/Transfer
“The Director of Schools shall transfer employees as necessary for the efficient operation of the Schools.”
“Individual Board members shall be notified of transfers 5 business days in advance of the transfer whenever practical or as soon as possible thereafter”
So technically he did not have to make the board aware before the transfers only after. Yes, I think management and teachers should follow board policy.
It comes down to this. The Board Members should set the standard of Professional Conduct at meetings and they should also know their role. GREENE’s opening statements of “Rumors” and if you see something illegal going on “call the police” is just one example of the Unprofessional statements made at this meeting. This was staged, and those who wanted to see it were in attendance.
Those who are involved in this are doing it for their own selfish reasons, their “wronged” and “entitled” mentality. If they win then things will go back to the way it was before, the children of Giles County deserve better than this.
Unbelievable! Greene and Turner have gone and screwed it up for this school system. There are still DESPERATE changes that NEED to be made and because of Thursday's fiasco that probably won't happen. Mr Greene - are you in these schools frequently to see what is and IS NOT going on???? Our district is ranked in the bottom and what has been going on in some of our schools for YEARS IS NOT WORKING!! So obviously things must change. From what I understand the people who have been transferred or in a new position is for the betterment of the schools. I agree that Webb is not perfect but who the h--- is? Let him do what the brd hired him to do - make our school system top in the state!! Greene and Turner - you both have work to do to make things right before elections!!!!!
It has been mentioned that teacher morale is at an all time low....could it be due to administration? If it is because of other things that are beyond our control (state decisions) then maybe these teachers need to find other professions. If it is due to school leadership then maybe there needs to be a change in school leadership????
The "Budget Is Balanced by Decption" - REALLY - I think I would be more specific - anyone can make such accusations.
Vote out Greene and Turner. People, change was needed and Webb is doing it. Let him do his work!
It appears that some people just don't want Dr. Webb to do his job and make the changes needed in the county. If these people would review the scholastic ratings of Richland school before and after Dr. Webb, they would see an increase of over 10%. Sure some things he is doing might not work out but at least he is trying to move the bar. To many people in Giles County just oppose change in any form. Even if it is beneficial to children's education. If teachers are upset perhaps they just need to hold on for the whole plan to get worked out.
Eine Hand wäscht die andere. One hand does wash the other. Relax. Because of your affiliation your position is secure. Upcoming elections will only add anxiety to your internal space. History will repeat itself and you have a front row seat.
Klugscheißer
What's happening with Webb is the very reason Vanzant will win another election and the same commissioners will be in there again, the people are just too damn satisfied with the below average leadership, They would rather watch the county die than change that's why it's been done the same way for 200 years. Until the people get fed up and change the situation the same wasteful do nothing but get rich leaders will be right there filling their pockets.
Great and true post 4:14
There are parents taking their children to other counties for their education cause we have this backwards school district that is so afraid of change. Thanks a lot Green and Turner! What a shame! Watch and see if Green turns out to be one that puts his kids on the CA bus.
2:06, Are you feeling the heat? Your attempt to belittle others is rolling a laugh from the bottom of my gut. Dr. Webb is spreading fear in the hearts of people, such as yourself, because he is going against the status quo. Get off your high horse and walk out of town. A horse doesn't deserve to have someone as fat as you breaking it's back.
For those of you who are the Webb bandwagon, try to find him at work on West Hill. He works from home on the couch or in his bed. WHY? Ask him since you don't believe what he is doing. You speak of the increased scores at Richland. You had to have made them up because RHS is in freefall. The scores there are rock bottom. They have no where to go except up. I read where WAB said he would score Webb a 90. WAB, you and Webb would fail as teachers because neither of you know how to evaluate. Cheatham County mirrored. Call any educator or citizen of Cheatham County and see how it mirrors what is happening here. You say he is making needed changes, Cincy Young is making those changes and Webb is approving them. If one school has a problem, fix it. Don't mess up all the rest by transferring deadbeats from one school to another. Look at what the Elkton principal did. She recruited some and got others that were not wanted at PES. Richland Elementary lost one of its best teachers for no reason. Minor Hill lost a good teacher to be placed somewhere else without reason. The list goes on and on.
Whether you like Webb or not, personnel decisions are his, not the board's.
For Mr. Green to take offense at a transfer and call for Webb's ouster would be just as wrong as if Green were to offer someone a job if her husband hired his company to do work. And we all know how wrong that would be.
That is precisely why the buck must stop with the director regarding personnel decisions.
Someone needs to punch Greene in the face for making such an ass of himself. Dr. Webb is the best thing to happen to this school system in a very long time. Too many lazy ass Giles County teachers and administrators have been riding the wave for too long. That is why you are hearing so much bitching on this blog.
7:18 not only wrong, but highly illegal.
4:14
You are accusing some of our elected officials of "filling their own pockets"? That would be a lie. And voters have a right to elect whomever they please.
I'm hoping Mrs. Vanzant will be re-elected, and I am fairly certain that she will be. I just keep wondering when the big attack campaign is going to start against her. We all know it's coming.
I'm sorry 6:49 but if you will search the Internet you will find where Richland HS scholastic standing did increase better than 10%. Thus raising Giles County HS's standings from being in the bottom quarter of the state to bottom third. Still not good but at least up.
9:25 why is that wrong and illegal? I'm in agreement with 7:18 the board does not need to make personnel decisions other than the director of schools. So please be specific how that is illegal. A lot of people state a knowledge of the law on here that have absolutely no Knowledge. In other words they say false things to support their view.
Anyone hoping that Mrs. Vanzant wins has not been paying attention to how poorly our county has been run the past 14 years.
The continuance of a credible debate rests upon the capability to determine the experience, knowledge, and direct ties to financial rewards resting with the opposition. My position derives it's basis from extensive management experience producing a positive resume. Never has any type of Federal, State, nor local compensation been rewarded on my behalf. Proudly my finical rewards were created and excepted from the private sector. It is clear statements contributed above were the result of non-managerial government employed individuals.
Management 101. Surround yourself (Director) with trustworthy and capable managers(Principals). Develop your (Director) plan of action to best suit the business model demand. Delegate all responsibilities to the managers (Principals) holding them accountable for adhering to the business plan. Never forward any type of directives without the knowledge and consent of said managers (Principals) to the workforce mass (Teachers). Any and all CEO's responsibilities remain in developing operating guidelines with budgetary restraints. The implementation of said directives rests solely upon the managers.
Our future will be a result of our commitment to the education of our young. I am progressive and expecting positive results in higher achievement from our schools. Our current Director has created strife and mistrust among the ranks. His current commandant method of operation will insure his demise. Only by trust and honor will the ranks fight the small battles to achieve victory. His people skill remain atrocious.
Klugscheißer
I'm not sure how anyone can defend Dr. Webb's actions. From what I hear, his personal life is in a mess, and it has carried over into his work.
If the rumors are correct about his vices, then he needs to be removed immediately.
Even if the rumors are not true, and I believe that they are, he should communicate his changes with principles and teachers prior to sending them a letter. Not professional!
oh look the German "smart ass" is back in all her/his glory.
11:05, if the rumors about you are true, and I believe they are, you are a dumbass who should wait til you have facts and not gossip.
cg at 6:05, according to you the attack on jp has been going on since the beginning. Make up your mind; you're really losing it. Perhaps having your identity known is more stress than you can handle.
11:02, cut the shit. Webb is doing far better than previous directors. You are taking a personal stance rather than an objective one. You also sound like an idiot with your rambling. Taking 3 paragraphs to make a simple statement is stupid.
Perhaps you could give some actual reasoning as to why Webb is breaking a law, or not doing a good job?
11:05, what someone does in their personal life has no bearing on their professional life. I know there are several self-righteous hypocrites posting on here, but unless he is showing up to work drunk his personal life is none of your business. You gossip queens, led by Barrett, need to start minding your own business of you are gonna be gossiping with the devil one day.
11:43 It is no secret the Dr. Webb has had to be driven home from work because he was incapable of doing so himself.
When one's personal life interferes with their professional life, especially with the Superintendent of Schools, then it is our business.
Now what is your comeback for that, self righteous one?
11:15
Attempts to smear Mrs. Vanzant have been going on ever since one very angry and resentful individual has made it a personal vendetta against her. What I am asking is WHEN will the big campaign start? Again, we all know it's coming.
Mrs. Vanzant has done an awfully good job of smearing herself. Are you being objective in your support of her, or is there a relationship or close friendship. This woman has done an awful job!
1:08, it's also no secret that several of the judges we've had needed to be driven home as well. Where was your indignation at that? Your gossip and rumors are serving no one except perhaps yourself.
cg, you are the one who is constantly bringing up jp on here. I guess you think that even if no one is putting her down that you can plant seeds of doubt that will grow in her favor. I've heard from more than one person ( a method I learned from you, by the way ) that you are hurting her chances more than you are helping her. Why not shut the hell up unless you have something specific to say in regards to the "attacks" you speak of.
2:16 We will see. Word is out!
Two wrongs don't make a right!
You have to provide some proof, 1:08. A rumor started on this blog is far from proof that it happened. I hope you get the shit sued out of you for libel.
If its true, its not libel!
Mr. Barrett, your sentence in the 3rd paragraph, "Has his methods been easy or smooth no, but neither has been the task." is grammatically incorrect.
It should have been written as: "Have his methods been easy or smooth? No, but neither has been the task."
Also, the first sentence in your 4th paragraph is grammatically incorrect. You use the word "inherited" in which I believe you mean to use the word "inherent". The sentence when corrected should read as follows: "When you have a school system with as many inherent problems as this one, a shake up is required, just as with the county as a whole."
You need to quit trying to say too much in one sentence. Avoid complex sentences, because you are not very good at it.
To 1:06 and 5:41
I would be very very careful of what I was saying and I would advise you to retract your libelous statements. Not only is it libel, it probably qualifies for False Light Invasion of Privacy which you need to look up. In a false light claim truth of a statement is not a defense especially when it leaves the impression you have left on this blog.
I have spoken with enough people lately to know exactly who is spreading this rumor. The thing is you have no truth as a defense. It is one persons word against another and if this were to cost him his job, I can just see the $$$ signs. Hope you have good insurance. Sleep well tonight.
2:16 I only bring up Mrs. Vanzant's name in defense of her from those like you.
My, my but the fur is flying as the cats whine and scratch over a net full of red herrings.
11:43 please tell me what rumor or gossip I have engaged in and please be specific. Please try and be honest so the readers will know just what a liar you are in your comment.
5:49 please forgive me my grammatical transgressions as I did not have the privilege of being Home Schooled. I very often write the way I speak. There may also be times that I misspell words that I also beg your pardon for. I spent more time in school studying histories, psychology, economics and general business administration, than grammar and spelling.
While I appreciate your efforts to correct and belittle I must take exception to your completely changing my words. I may not be grammatically correct or politically correct but thankfull I do know the meaning of words. Had I meant "inherent" that is what I would have plainly stated since I'm not very good at talking around corners. I used the word "inherit", which basically means "received from another" and that is what I meant. Hopefully this will help open your mind a wee bit but I doubt it.
Just admit you are a poor excuse of a journalist, Barrett. Your grammar and overall structure of writing could be poorly graded by a student no more than 8 years old. Stop making excuses for your lack of education.
To 5:41, I would advise you to prove it is true. If you can't prove your statement, then it is libel and you will pay the consequence and pay it dearly.
He is showing up at work and schools and other places smelling like a brewery.
Barrett, if you weren't a sad excuse for a human being I would come beat the shit out of you for all the problems you have caused in this county. However, you are old and insane, so anything I would do to you would be expected and I am far too good of a person to spend the night in jail over a piece a crap such as yourself.
CG, You asked when the big attacks would start. I think they have already started by you and your buddies. You just can't attack Barrett enough. Now you or your buddies are attacking Stowe and Lindsey. A lot of mud slinging going on about lots of people.
So let me attack someone and I don't know who it it is, but as I came up Highway 11 near Richland bridge I saw a hot pink sign that hurt my eyes and I never could read the name on it. Who ever it belong to should of used white back ground and hot pink letters where we could read it. I don't know if it was Barrett, Vanzant, harwell or who, to hard to read.
Let me start out by saying I do not care for Mr. Greene. He pays little attention to what is going on at board meetings due to watching his phone. But if Mr. Greene and Mrs. Turner know things that really caused a disturbance then you have them all wrong and Dr. Webb needs to be gone. He came in with a balanced budget but how many times has the board voted on an amendment to the budget. Doesn't sound to balanced to me. And how are teachers going to know how much money they have in their acct. to be spent if they didn't know they had the money when school was out. And how many board members checked out Webb when he was at Cheatham county. They would know that his pattern has carried over to Giles County. Notes are being kept, documentation is being made and and women are getting their groups organized to face the board with vulgar and abnoxious things he is saying and doing. How many of you know that he has a tendancy to drink his lunch. His drunken behavior is not necessary during school hours. Why is he allowed to work at home. He needs to be at the Central office with an open door policy. Cindy Young is the co pilot doing his dirty work. She has been seen following board members and doing the reconciliation when it needs to be done. I am not making this up. I will have documentation to follow real soon. So lets hope the board looks past Don Story's ajenda to making Richland the best and get back with 0
I have to wonder how many people know Mrs Turner has attended only 4 of 12 board meetings this school year. I also wonder how many people know Mrs Turner has an extensive arrest record..the last of which due to a relative feeling threatened by a weapon. I wonder how many people know Mrs Turner left her previous job under questionable circumstances. I wonder how many people know Mrs Turner applied for a secretarial position within Dr. Webb's office and a more trustworthy and qualified person was hired..sour grapes? I have to wonder if Mrs. Turner knows teachers fill positions, not dispositions, and if she understands the meaning and proper use of the word aspect. Finally, I have to wonder how Mr. Greene would know of Dr Webb's plans without the assistance of treacherous office staff. If we, as a county, allow ineffective personnel to remain we are only hurting the children of our county. The main focus of any adult in this county should be the children and their future. Dr. Webb is focused on those children and needs to be able to do his job as effectively as possible.
Until you produce your documentation 2:30 all you are doing is spreading rumors. That makes you no better than the people you are talking about.
9:40, you could also stand a refresher course in sentence structure. Because of your placement of "poorly" in your second sentence, it reads as though the student would do a bad job of grading.
In your 5:49 post, you misplaced a colon, a period and a comma.
You should probably climb slowly off of your high horse so as not to injure yourself when you fall.
10:51 Hope you don't fall off your high horse when you hear the latest.
Darn, looks like Jim Green has won my vote after all.
Dr. Webb has resigned.
Wonder if those character lawsuits are still coming my way?
Saturday, June 14, 2014 7:33:00 PM
What say yea today?
Was CG one of those praising Dr. Webb?
Why did Dr. Webb resign?
7:33 Hold on to your hat. I have proof and he is gone.
Still want to punch Greene in the face. He isn't the on that looks like a horses ass. Look at 1,2,3,4and 7,
5:07 I guess I'm dumb, but what does 1,2,3 and 7 mean? Since the post before yours asked if any was cg's post I'm guessing those are his.
Those are the districts that supported Webb at the board meeting 5:54
I thought District 2 didn't vote one way or the anther. Not voting was same as for him? LOL Has there been another meeting and they are still for him?
I hear Cheatman County people are laughing at us.
Mike Young will probably do all he can to get Cindy the one to take over.
Why is Giles county library being remolded? I can understand flat roots don't last as long as the other. I haven't seen where they are making it larger. Are they?
How much is that costing the tax payers?
Quit complaining 6:50 you are a taxpayer and your job is to pay and pay not ask questions about how the money is spent.
You and Barrett always snooping and asking questions you take all the fun out of being a government employee.
Friends of the library RAISED the money, not tax payers.
8:29 That is good news. I'm sure a lot of people will be glad to know that. I for one thought they needed more room.
8:22 I think you was just trying to be funny. I got a laugh out of it.
To 12:38: it is yet to be seen.
12:28, what in the hell does one have to do with the other? The only point your comment made was that you are a true dumbass.
Mr. Barrett...
You mentioned that "the fur is flying", and I just had to laugh. Isn't that what you thrive on?
I think you are pathetic. What astounds me is that your ego apparently won't let you see it for yourself.
The idiots of the universe are in charge!
601 cg, I think you love getting digs at WAB. Is that what Christians do?
No 6:01, that is not what I thrive on. I do thrive on the truth and that seems to be in very short supply among people like you. I take no joy in some of the things that I report but the truth is what it is and when it is diluted or ignored disaster is always the result.
Does the news media report a horrendous car crash out of a sense of joy? Is it joy that compels them to show pictures of terrorist with the decapitated bodies of their victims or is it out of a sense of duty to warn and inform.
I read of a man who was watching TV when unknown to him a fire broke out in an adjacent apartment. A neighbor beat on his door to warn him and the man told him to go away. The neighbor knew the man didn't understand the danger he was in so he broke down the door while yelling that the building was on fire. As the neighbor explained and tried to get the man to leave his apartment the man began to fight the neighbor. At some point the man punched the neighbor in the eye causing permanent damage to his sight. The neighbor finally got the man out of the apartment where he finally saw the fire and the danger he had been in. The man apologized profusely to his neighbor but that did not restore the neighbors sight.
The point is sometimes doing the right thing is a very costly experience but a necessary thing to do simply because it is the right thing.
I'm sorry that you prefer the fantasy of naivete or intelligence blindness but we do not live in a childs world. As a realist I understand that in the real world there are bad people who do bad things. I offer the example of the five muslim terrorist who were recently released from Guantanamo Bay. They have taken a blood oath to destroy all non muslims yet, our president chooses to act as though they are not the slightest danger. The question is how many lives will it cost because of this fantasy? On a smaller scale your denial fantasy is much like the president's, if you just don't acknowledge it maybe it will go away.
In many ways the very problems that are causing the most difficulty in our county, schools in need of major repair, roads becoming a disaster, county population shrinking, a justice system with little justice, ineffective leadership and the list can go on and on, are all the result in large part because so many chose to close their eyes to realities in the hopes they will go away.
Our county has suffered severely under this delusion and only the election of those like Capt. Stowe who see the realities and have the experience of making intelligent plans for dealing effectively with those problems, can change the destructive direction in which we are headed. You can't dig your way out of a hole by continuing to dig in the same direction.
WAB. You may know what you are saying, but not many listen to you!
How many listen to cg?
I think he was talking to the smarter people not you 7:07.
Poor cg, someone picking on him.
Apologies to 7:07. My comment at 8:19 yesterday was meant for 6:44 not 7:07.
6:44 your problem is a lack of reader comprehension and reading to find fault. The man makes perfect sense to me and is just what the county needs in the messed up 7th District.
8:23 - I don't have a problem. When I have a point, I can discuss, debate and influence just fine. I also realize that I am not always right, so I am flexible when necessary.
WAB is an alienator. There are many times that he is absolutely correct, but his message is not well recieved because of his history.
I'm not saying it right. I'm just saying that that is the way it is!
Does the Bible not talk about forgiving? Does it talk about just keep bitching? If so I missed the bitching part.
That's the problem 3:09 some people would rather have a sweet sounding lie than the truth and they look for any excuse to reject that truth.
I've talked with Barrett a number of times and found him to be not only very knowledgeable but a very easy person to talk with and what may surprise you even more is the fact he is a very good listener. I think the problem is that most of the time when he's trying to talk in a meeting he is givens such a very short time that he comes across as abrupt when he really isn't.
Right on the money, 8:16. The dumbass enabler admits he has never spoken with Allen but still forms an uneducated opinion with no basis. I truly do pity the child groper.
10:05
You are a sick individual. Do you know that? I suspect that you do.
And why do you continue promoting a lie that I enable wrongdoing? Willfully promoting a lie makes YOU an enabler of the lie. And to continue doing so makes you look rather stupid.
I don't question your expertise on sickness, dumbass. I do, however, believe you to find the accusation true on a personal level, or you would simply ignore it and move on. Can't do it, can you enabler?
9:45 Why do you insist on enabling and promoting a lie Allen Barrett told? Don't you realize that he is trying once again to won an election?
It's been proven time and again that Allen is not the liar on here. You have that dubious honor. I'm just here to make sure that readers take your comments with a huge grain of salt.
2:13 Let me make this as plain as I know how. Anytime Allen Barrett says that I willfully go along with wrongdoing, he is lying. It's just that simple. Whether he lies about other things is not up to me to say.
CG
On a number of occasions I have listed, a long list I might add, examples of your enabling 8:48. To date you have refused to offer any credible evidence or reasons showing that I was wrong in my assessment of your actions. Calling someone a liar is a very serious matter in my book and should only be done when the evidence is overwhelming. I have given you the examples, which you haven't even denied, choosing only to make a blanket statement that you "could" not knowingly go along with wrong doing because you are a Christian and a gentleman. To that I even gave many example of Christians who knowingly went along with wrongdoing. Basically pointing out that one can certainly be a Christian while at the same time doing and/or supporting/enabling wrongdoing. You sir, in your enthusiasm to attack me and support your unsupportable behavior
have not only made yourself sound ridiculous you have slandered Christianity as well.
Mr. Barrett...
Please allow me to tell you once again that you are a liar for accusing me of willfully going along with wrongdoings. That was a low-down lie when you told it, and it still is a lie. Stop lying! It makes you look bad. Do you expect people to have faith in you when you lie like this? Just because I don't see things the same way you do does NOT mean that I would willfully go along with something I think is wrong. I think you are wrong about a lot of things, and particularly your attitude and behavior toward those who in fact disagree with you.
As for your so-called "examples", stick them in your ear. I know who I am, and do not seek or need your approval. You are absolutely despicable. How do you stand yourself?
I'll say this as succinctly as I can. If ANYBODY has slandered Christianity, I think it's you.
5:41 Honey child you slander Christianity. You claim to be a Christian and tell anyone they are despicable.
Looks like Barrett has got you railed up. LOL
7:10
I thought you guys were all against judging others? Has that changed?
I think Barrett loves to "rail" (rile) people up. That's his game.
Would someone please tell me the difference in 5:41 and 7:10's post? If one is judging so is the other one.
7:41 "If ANYBODY has slandered Christianity, I think it's you."
7:10 "Honey child you slander Christianity. You claim to be a Christian and tell anyone they are despicable."
Sounds like the pot do call the kettle black.
It's got to be somehow different when cg does it, otherwise he would be wrong, and we know that could never happen. Well, not in his steadily diminishing mind anyway.
5:19 Amen!
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