Save Our Schools Questionnaire
Please answer the following questions if you are interested in what is going on in The Giles County School System. A questionnaire was done in 2005 by a chosen few that did not cover the parents, teachers, support staff, or taxpayers of Giles County. This is your opportunity to express how you truly feel about the Giles County School system.
Click on "comments" to view questions. Then, print questionnaire out, mark the answers of your choice, and mail to the postal address given. Thanks!
Click on "comments" to view questions. Then, print questionnaire out, mark the answers of your choice, and mail to the postal address given. Thanks!
posted by J. Kendrick McPeters | 12:04 AM
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What school(s) are you affiliated with?_____________________________________
What is your position? (parent, teacher, student, support staff or taxpayer)?___________________
Have you had a student(s) graduate from our system before? What High School?_______________________________________
Did they go to college?______________________
Did they have to take remedial classes before they could start getting college credit first?_____________
Please write your voting district number? District 1(Elkton/ Prospect areas), District 2 (Minor Hill/Prospect area), District 3 (Campbellsville area), District 4 (Lynnville area), District 5 (Brick Church/31A) District 6 (Bridgeforth and North of Jefferson Street), District 7 (South of Jefferson Street/Minor Hwy). ____ Would you vote for them again?______________
The following questions will be answered on a scale of 1 to 5. One (F) will be the lowest ranking and 5(A) the highest. If you would like to make any comments please number on the back page and give your comments.
1.Do you feel that your school staff has done everything possible to make your school safe?_____
2.If your school has an SRO officer do you feel they are doing their job to the fullest?_____
3.Does your school have an emergency plan in place in case of a suspicious threat?_____
4.Does your school have a weather related emergency plan?_____
5.Does your school have drills for these plans?___
6.How do you rate the morale of the (your) students in the system?____
7.How do you rate the morale of the staff?____
8.Do you feel your main administrator is a good morale booster?_____
9. Do you think the assistant administrators are a good morale booster?____
10.Do you feel the school has an open door policy?_____
11.Do you feel the policy is receptive to your visit?_______
12.How would you rate your main administrator?_____
13.How would you rate your assistant administrators?____
14. Is your administrator available to you?_____
15. Is your assistant administrators available to you?___
16.Do you feel the assistant administrators can make decisions if the administrator is absent?___
17.Do you feel the school has qualified teachers teaching the subjects?____
18.Does your child ever feel the administrator or teachers don’t like them?____
19.As a teacher do you feel that you could do a better job if more materials were available to you?_____
20.As a parent or teacher how much do you feel you spend out of pocket on supplies for your
student(s)?_$________
21.Do you feel that (1) academics or (2) sports are the main focus in your school? _____
22.As a parent do you feel that your student has gotten every advantage in the following subjects:
English____ Languages____ Math ____ Arts ____ Health ____ Vocational Skills ____Science____
Social Studies ____ History____ Advanced Placement ____ Physical Exercise____ Special Needs ____
23.Do you feel that the administrators are supportive to faculty and parents? ______
24.Is the cafeteria staff pleasant? _____
25 Are the meals nutritional? _____
26.Would you like to have drink and snack machines in the schools?_____
27.Rate the Central Office:
Person answering the phone_______
The person you have called for____
Open door policy____
Supervisors (Special Education ___, Federal Funding ___, Cafeterias, Maintenance ___, Bus
Garaged, School Safeties, Assistant Directors, Director). ________
28.Do you think your school has a good relationship with the community? ______
29.Do you think the director has a good relationship with the community? ______
30.Have you ever met the Director? ________
31.Number, which you think Giles County should do: (1) Elect by voting for a superintendent or (2) have
the school board appoint the director. ______
32.Should the director’s contract state that they should be a tax payer in the county they work in, and live in
the county they work in? _________
33.Have you ever been made to feel uncomfortable by anyone employed in the Giles
County School system? (If yes I would appreciate an explanation on the back or below)._______
34.How does the physical being of your school look to the community on the outside?_______
35.Do you think we need 1, 2, or 3 high schools?______
36.Do you think we need more vocational courses for students not going to college?_____
37.Are you happy about the new central office add on? _______
38.If you could do the following please choose:
(1) Keep or (2) do away with:
Principal ____ Vice Principal _____
Teachers______ Support Staff _____
Secretarial staff ____ Cafeteria Worker _____
Custodial _____ Bus Driver _____
Director of Schools _____ Coaches _______
Supervisors _____ School Board Member _____
39.Do you have anything else to add? ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
please print out, fill in your answers, and mail to:
Save Our Schools Committee
P.O. Box 415
Pulaski, TN 38478
What is this gripe all about? Most of these issues are addressed already in school improvement plans and SACS.
Could this have anything to do with Mr. Jackson?
I'm just wondering; who are the members of this committee? I can probably guess at least four or five, but please indulge me.
Well don't guess. You would be wrong.
anonymous...
It's the same little group of whiners. I noticed that they (some of them) bombarded this week's paper with letter to the editor.
Do they find fault with everybody but themselves? Apparently so.
anonymous..
Then please indulge me. Who are they? Let's "expose" them right now!
Why would you think anyone NEEDS to be exposed? Maybe its some parents striving to improve. You have a mania about 'exposing' and one can only assume its based on what Mr. Barrett has been doing with the local politics. However, you are wrong in that he 'exposes' people, he 'exposes' their actions. Anything wrong in that?
Tom....
No, I am right about your idol's actions. How can you expose an action without exposing the person? People like him are the reason some would never consider running for an elected office. I know what I'm talking about here.
Can you not tell that I am using the word "expose" in a facetious manner? By the way, your hero and idol is the one who started using the word first. And he does a good job of exposing.....his rear end.
So, who is on the Save Our Schools Committee? Is it the same little group of malcontents who know best?
5:44 Apparently you can't comprehend what was written, the simple math that describes acts of fraud, or the simple definitions of fraud. The data proof is directly from official statements and funding requests presented by Mr. Jackson and (ironically) approved by the school board.
On the other hand, you know much more than revealed. Your objective is concealment & diversion - typical of someone caught in a web of illegal activity. "Complicit" is the word.
Generally accepted accounting principles (GAAP) apply to all areas of accounting, including GASB areas (Government Accounting Standards Board). Some of the very basic principles such as balancing, matching, stable dollar, disclosure, materiality, consistency, etc. are key indicators in determining financial integrity, accuracy, plus prosecution of civil or criminal fraudulent activity. The more obvious actual case is where data is openly falsified and omitted to obtain millions of dollars more than justified by factual financial reporting and documentation. That describes felony criminal fraud.
So, unless you have directed a few thousand major corporate audits or been audited many times by top national CPA firms and various government agencies including the Department of Defense, I recommend you ask questions and seek answers. Some people have asked CPA's. The right response is relatively easy to get.
The stakes are much higher than a day or so ago. The Thursday article gives formal public notice that the school budget is fraudulent; and the fraud is far deeper than just sales tax revenue. Will the fraud be purged or will it be embraced by the council? Will any join hands to prove that power trumps the law? Again, the word "complicit" comes to mind.
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You say I can't comprehend and that my objective is concealment and fraud. I realize you are only trying to describe my behavior, but you are so wrong.
You say that power trumps the law. I don't think so. As I have said, if your group has the "goods" on the ones you are criticizing, why don't you turn the evidence over to the proper authorities?
Are you by any chance on the "save Our Schools Committee? I'd almost bet you are.
save our schools isn't the same bunch of "whiners" or "malcontents".it is a group of concerned parents that see over and over a school system that would rather have the board and director's facilities looking good than fix the falling apart schools in this county. the students are getting short-changed by not enough qualified teachers to ceiling panels falling down because of leaks. when raw sewage stinks up the dressing room or your child slips and falls because of water leaking on the bathroom floor from malfunctioning commodes or sinks, then it's time for changes. if more people would go unannounced to any school and ask for a tour of the facility, their eyes would be opened to what the taxpayers children have to deal with everyday.maybe then someone would contact some higher authorities.
Who are the people on this committee?
for 11:24 & 11:31 - "Will any join hands to prove that power trumps the law?", was a question to you! Will the council pass and attempt to legitimize a known fraudulent budget? If it is not rejected, they are legitimizing it! Individual votes will define complicity. They will define who is loyal to the Jackson - NEA Mafia and who is true to self and citizens they represent.
The issue is falsifying a $28 million formal government funding request to obtain millions more to waste on senseless bureaucracy, simply because correctly stating the record levels of revenue plus adding another huge increase to it is so absurd, that taxpayers and citizens would revolt! That bureaucracy is taking that money to enrich itself, at the expense of teaching and teaching resources. The bureaucratic mission is to stupefy the public, drown the teaching staff with mountains of paper and bureaucratics drills, and teach the children to chase a ball instead of a meaningful vocation and education! The real numbers say teacher raises were around 3% a year excluding staff increases in an environment of stagnant growth. The same 3 year period shows almost 50% increases in administrative salaries!
Look at the "tell you nothing budget" the county published in the paper. It has one subliminal message - Jackson will be telling you he cut 2006-7 costs $557,513 - because he only increased spending by $1,866,914, instead of the $2,424,427 budget increase - the one he told everyone was a "no new money" - "No increase" budget! Incredible - will you wear the dunce hat he puts on your head?
Fact and truth says that no one, other than those involved in the fraud, would be offended by exposure of that fraud. One might say get involved - but, you have been - on the wrong side.
751 Do you not realize that roofs leak, toilets back up, and maintenance facillities are falling down because they are used by your beloved administration to create a "need" for more money and more taxes in a period of record breaking revenue!
There is no shortage of money! Look at where they are spending record levels of it!
Those you call whiners are the only people doing somthing about this idiocy. We don't need a tax increase. We need some common sense - someone who will take care of and respect the resources we have.
Jackson spiffied up the old admin building, then went and built himself a brand new New York Maddison Avenue Office building for himself & a handfull of cronies - that means no money to patch the school house roof, clean out the toilet, or no place to fix the busses. When you get mad enough at the right people, things might change!
anonymous...
Yes, they are whiners. If they have proof of "falsified documents" why don't they turn them over to the proper authorities? I hate to keep mentioning this, but they seem to avoid answering the question, other than to claim the authorities are crooks too! Preposterous!
You are NOT the judge, jury, and executioner.
"They will define who is loyal to the Jackson - NEA Mafia and who is true to self and citizens they represent."
What does the NEA have to do with Jackson????
He is not even a member of that organization!
wanna bet?
Saturday, July 14, 2007 9:05:00 AM
You don't know what you are talking about! I ran for office and had no problems with the people you are referring to. If an elected official does what is honest, follow the rules of law and treat each citizen with respect, whether they agree with you or not, there is nothing to worry about.
To those of you who are eager to blame and judge I have a question? Did you read the questions? They were written to cover every aspect of the school system. Why has this survey been done you might ask? Well, some parents asked Mr. Jackson to do exit questions to teachers leaving and teachers askwed to see a principal's evaluation. Mr. jackson said that when teachers leave they write a letter and that's beneficial as far as the system goes, but ask one why they left and they'll tell you the truth and that they couldn't tell tee or the principal why because of vendictiveness. The teachers did an evaluation of a principal and the way the questions were the principal could figure out who wrote the truth so they lied on the evaluation form. The principal was highly praised by Tee for wanting to better themself but if he knew that it was a setup would he be pleased. Parents are behind this survey across the county and would like for parents and teachers to answer and send to PO box without feeling threatened or their children threatened. Mrs. Murrey is the person seeing the survey and compiling for the individuals of each question. She asked that this not become a witch hunt and make it county wide. The questions about the director will be sent to the governor who is very much against superintendants and keeping Directors. He needs to see first hand how the people of Giles County feel about the state gov. taking away a right. This is being done to help improve our school system and hopefully those doing it their way and not a beneficial way for our students just might help. So please don't bicker over who did this and believe me Allen Barrett hasn't layed eyes on this until the blog, I don't think. The surveys have been put in stores throughout the county and some restaurants,but I think some school personnel and board members have been retreiving them. Get some BALLS about you people and speak out. Only one person will see the answers and they will be compiled on totally different forms. Your safe. Let your children do one too and anyone who has to deal with the system.
Anonymous July 14, 9:05 am
You are very wrong about me. I am not part of any group, do not consider Mr Barrett an idol of mine.
Anonymous July 15, 5:00 pm
Thank you for clearing this up and identifying it is parents doing this survey and does not involve the concerned citizens who apparently dilligently attend government meetings when they probably would rather be elsewhere.
Kudos to those people.
anonymous....
Looks like a Tee Jackson with hunt to me.
This is something you might find very interesting. The group invited a board member to get together and discuss with the board member somethings that they would like to see happen in their school. The board member asked the owner of Soda Pop Junction if his establishment could be used. He said yes. Before the day was over he had made sure that Mr. Jackson knew about it. When the people met, the Mayor of Lynnville was waiting outside of the stores as a greeter. His daughter had been placed at a table near by supposedly to study, but she never turned the page in her book the whole time. Mrs. Mayor came in to Soda Pop several times to check out the clientel and supposedly while she was working on the planting around the flag pole took pictures of the group as they were disbanding ouside the Junction. Giles Collier was at the same table as the daughter and he then came back into town and slowed down going up the street and again coming back down the street. It's sad to think people can't have a get together to discuss something and seemingly a big majority of the town was in turmoil. Sounds like they need a mayor that isn't paranoid and a daughter that can either read faster or learn to not do as her parents and keep her nosey butt at home. Next time the group meets, I hope the town guarddogs and Jackson lickers hide behind bushes and be less discreet or are all visitors to the Junction and Lynnville treated in such a manner. If only the school board members in their districts would just take a few minutes to listen then they wouldn't have to meet and do surveys.
Do you mean Tee Jackson withch hunt. Witch is to nice for him. How about fraudulent liar!!!!
Has he (Tee) found a job for Mrs. Mike Young at the Central Office. He was looking high and low for her a position.
Would someone else please ask Fred Lindsay why he voted to give Tee Jackson another year on his contract last February. Rumor has it that Tee told some of the board members that he didn't want another year or a raise, but Kathy Norman as a chosen few to put him in one more time. I thought Fred left to get away from Tee, but it seems Norman really has a way with the men. Have you ever seen her out with Tee? He stumbles all over himself to get the door for her and they are in each others face when eating. They are out alot together. But Fred has been known to say that several of the board members go to lunch just as friends. I hope it's after the SUN goes down.
Yes, very interesting. Can you wonder why the general populace is scared to open their mouths about something?
Now, are we talking another "group of malcontents and whiners" as it has been referred to time and again, or are the folks who went to Soda Junction the same as those who have been blasted on this blog, just for taking an interest on the local government? Please clarify.
Such whining....can you guys ever move past it?
No, the same bunch of whiners and malcontents are the same ones who were so against zoning. But time proved them wrong on that, didn't it?
Would you please inform me how time proved the anti-zoning group wrong. If anything it has proven them right.
There has not been one single instance where zoning has been enforced in the county because of the outstanding lawsuit.
To, July 16, 2007 9:33:00 PM,
Lay off Mr. and Mrs. Hood’s daughters! Those two are the sweetest, kindest young girls, well mannered and a friend of my granddaughter. You don’t know what you are talking about when you say such mean things. They are children and not fair game for you to criticize in any way and your treatment of them just shows what kind of person you are. Trash!
How do you expect anyone to listen to a word you have to say? Stick to your complaints and don’t make them about anyone’s children for NO reason.
The Hoods are frequently found at the Soda Pop. If you see one of them sitting & doing nothing, don't worry about it. If you watch closely, when things get a bit crowded & there isn't enough help, you'll find them in the middle of things helping others. Really good people help one another & know how to work. Don't get mad, talk to them. They're good folks, you'll like them. They contribute a lot to our community.
If your questionaire helps the community (it shold), you will be contributiong something too. Sounds like you have a lot more in common than you think. Lighten up stay focused.
If the Hood's aren't guilty then let them clear themselves. The people aren't whiners they are doers and they are constantly being put down for trying to improve the school system, keep teachers and students at their school. The county is losing teachers left and right and the students are transferring within the system or out of the system. They are wanting their children to get the best education possible. There isn't a balance in this system, but with these parents speaking out their children have gotten to take classes that they wouldn't have gotten if they hadn't taken the initiative. They have BALLS!!!!!
You people never cease to amaze me. Is there ANYBODY in this county you approve of, other than yourselves? Hop that bus headed North if you are so miserable here.
To Howard:
All the lies, scare tactics, and misinformation the anti-zoning people (present day malcontents) presented was proven to be false. I knew it would be with time, and that is exactly why the malcontents aren't making it a big issue right now. Zoning didn't cause anybody any pain or sacrifice. By the way, have you seen any new rock quarries or halfway houses for sex offenders in your neighborhood lately? You won't.
Anonymous, July 19, 6:49 AM
YOU are the one who ceases to amaze! You seem to be so obsessed with beating up on a handful of people you cant read straight. AGAIN, the parents who are working in this school questionaire are nothing to do with the folks you choose to label "whiners and malcontents". (Re-read the above topics) Also, the reason no new rock quarries or halfway houses is because SOME of the "malcontents" filed a lawsuit and its sitting within the legal system so the county won't take actions re zoning because of that. If they did start to enforce, the lawsuit would start moving. And no, WAB is not part of that lawsuit.
I am still in a state of shock, shock, SHOCK that McMasters has been nominated for principal of the year.
Can you believe it! Someone in the know ought to write to the association working with these nominations. Could even direct the association to this blog so they can see all the controversy surrounding McMasters. A smoker! Fine example for the youth of this county. That should be the first count against her.
1041 Scenario for thought. Suppose a teenager is sitting in a restaurant where she works, trying to do some homework. A few tables away, in a group of people, some idiot starts gawking at her, getting real emotional at the very fact that she dare sit there without idiot's permission. Now, the idiot (you) demand that she and her faimly clear themselves of something.
What did you expect Troy to cuss you out at the door. His wife to be walking around with a spy helmet & radon gun? - The child to be sifting through your purse? Have you never been around good people???? Are you on a secret mission? Do you wear a burka? Paranoia screws everything up - get real!
The survey is a good thing. Be open about it. Rub it in Jackson any way you can, but in a very positive manner. If he goes, it will be a very positive event! Bad people don't like good things - they only understand bad things, bad manners, bad seeds, & bad thoughts (paranoia).
Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:41:00,
The Hood’s guilty, of what, looking at you? Like I said, your comments about them reveal the kind of person you are. Your behavior is not helping the school system or your cause.
It doesn’t take BALLS to attack good, innocence children.
anonymous..
Whatever you choose to believe is your truth, ok? Your perception of the issue is at odds with mine, so I am naturally wrong?
The point I was trying to make is that you won't be seeing any new rock quarries intrude upon law-abiding homeowners who happen to live out in the county. That ain't gonna happen no more.
According to you, those who filed a lawsuit are using intimidation to force their will? Is that a correct perception on my part?
Please don't call me names simply because I disagree with you. Thanks.
WHO on God's green earth nominated McMasters as principal of the year? What a joke!!!!!!!! Had to be one of her FEW brown-nosers!
Are you mad because they didn't solicit your opinion first?
The Anonymous Apologist for Tyranny said:
"All the lies, scare tactics, and misinformation the anti-zoning people (present day malcontents) presented was proven to be false."
I have a very long "paper trail" in regards to zoning. So, would you care to name a single LIE I put before the public, anytime from 1991 to the present?
I would never put my immortal soul in jeopardy, in order to score a "political point" on any issue, including but not limited to, zoning. Compare and contrast to the supposedly devout Mr. Roger Reedy, who repeatedly lied through his teeth in order to pass zoning.
Up until the zoning plan was passed, Reedy and all the other pro-zoners (such as Vanzant) insisted that "it's not a ZONING PLAN, it's a LAND USE MANAGEMENT PLAN." This was not only a blatant and obvious lie, but it was an expression of total contempt for the intelligence of Giles voters.
"Saint Reedy" also lied when he claimed that rezonings (from FAR to commercial, say) could be done by a vote of the appeals board, when in fact STATE LAW requires majority approval by the entire County Commission.
Reedy also lied when he claimed that Lincoln County's "special impact" zoning plan wouldn't meet our needs. In truth, that plan has been proven in court to work, and would have given us more protection than the current (ineptly written) plan, without that plan's idiotic zoning out of churches, schools, and good paying jobs.
And don't forget, Reedy was so desperate to pass his zoning plan, that he knowingly and with malice aforethought, violated the state procedures that dictate how zoning plans can be imposed. Some hero you have there -- a liar and a lawbreaker!
I knew it would be with time, and that is exactly why the malcontents aren't making it a big issue right now.
I guess by "malcontents," you mean those who prefer for county officials to obey the state law? Considering that, by official referendum vote, 4/5 of Giles Countians don't want zoning shoved down their throats, does that mean that only 1 in 5 are "content?" Sounds like we'll need a whole convoy of busses in order to make our exodus, huh? Or, maybe.... the tiny handful that wants zoning could take the bus, eh? (By the way, I'm not talking about the "short bus," which I rather imagine you spend a lot of time on.)
Zoning didn't cause anybody any pain or sacrifice.
Well, it's nice to see that the "Land Use Management" mask has been cast aside, and that you honestly refer to it as "zoning." Better late than never, I suppose.
Of course, the reason that zoning hasn't caused "pain" or "sacrifice," is that it has never, for even one moment, been ENFORCED in Giles County. In fact, that was the plan all along, in my opinion. What Reedy and the other power mongers wanted, was a tool to SELECTIVELY ENFORCE zoning, against their "enemies," while giving their "friends" a free pass.
"By the way, have you seen any new rock quarries or halfway houses for sex offenders in your neighborhood lately? You won't."
The only reason a rock quarry hasn't located here, is because no company is interested in trying. Your precious zoning plan is a paper tiger-- unreasonable, badly written, and sure to be set aside by the first judge that reviews it.
As for "sex offender halfway houses" there is absolutely nothing in the zoning plan to exclude them. In the future, you would probably find it beneficial to READ THE PLAN , rather than relying on what a devious, self interested politician says about the plan.
The Anonymous Apologist for Tyranny said:
The point I was trying to make is that you won't be seeing any new rock quarries intrude upon law-abiding homeowners who happen to live out in the county. That ain't gonna happen no more.
Your faith in an extremely poorly written, NON-ENFORCED, zoning plan is entirely misplaced. Have you even READ the document?
According to you, those who filed a lawsuit are using intimidation to force their will?
That's rich with irony!
You pro-zoners want to use the GUNS of the COUNTY SHERIFF to INTIMIDATE everyone into using their own "private property" in ONLY THE MANNER DICTATED by a majority of COUNTY COMMISSIONERS!!! REFUSE TO OBEY, GO TO JAIL!!! REFUSE TO GO TO JAIL, AND YOU GET SHOT DEAD!!! That's what zoning' ALL ABOUT, and yet... you think those of us who stand up for PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS and INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM are the bad guys??? That's simply breathtaking, not only in IRONY, but in terms of sheer stupidity!
"Is that a correct perception on my part?
I think all you can perceive, is the inside of your lower colon....
For the record, I am the person who wrote the complaint that launched the lawsuit against the current zoning plan. I did not file, or otherwise ask for, an injunction to keep the zoning plan from being implemented. Vanzant and her cronies are thus free to zone away to their heart's content. The fact that they DON'T should tell you something about the WORKABILITY of that sacred plan.
Incidentally, do you favor that citizens DO NOTHING when their so-called "representatives" break the law? For instance, the state law requires that the COUNTY COMMISSION call a meeting to hear from the public, before they can legally vote in a zoning plan. That didn't happen here, thanks to the duplicity of Roger Reedy. Do you think that's acceptable? And if you do, would you be willing to name other laws that you wouldn't mind elected officials breaking with impunity? Thanks...
Kendrick..
So we are back to whining about zoning?
Nobody said you lied about a single thing. But you handily called Roger Reedy a liar. Now THAT is rich with irony!
The Anonymous Apologist said:
So we are back to whining about zoning?
Not whining. Simply correcting a few mistakes that you were propagating. Incidentally, do you consider everyone who stands up against governmental tyranny and/or malfeasance to be "whiners?" Or simply those who do so in Giles County?
Nobody said you lied about a single thing.
Is that so? You said that the "anti-zoning people" had "presented" lies and "misinformation," which had since (somehow) been proven "false." Now, if you are a long term Giles County resident, you surely realize that I am (almost inarguably) the most prominent anti-zoner alive. Given that, why shouldn't I have taken offense at your blanket smear of "anti-zoners?" You could've said, "all the anti-zoners, except for Kendrick McPeters, are liars..." but you didn't include such a disclaimer, making it look rather like you wanted to include me in your all purpose smear.
But you handily called Roger Reedy a liar.
Oh, I did much more than THAT. I named at least three instances where he was blatantly lying to the public. If you'd been paying any attention to his "dog and pony show" four years ago, you'd remember him making these whopper lies, too.
I called Reedy on his lies, at the time he was making them. For instance, I ran the following ad:
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Roger Reedy Keeps Nine
Out of Ten Commandments
Each and every time he says "it's a land management plan, not a zoning plan" he's breaking the Ninth Commandment. Don't believe me? Visit my new website for the proof.
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Now, if Roger Reedy hadn't been telling people (on the radio, for instance) that the "Land Use Management Plan" wasn't a "zoning plan," then I'd have looked pretty darned foolish running the above ad, dontcha think? And (as time has certainly proven), the "Land Use" plan CERTAINLY IS a zoning plan, and thus, Roger Reedy is revealed as a balf faced liar, QED.
Now THAT is rich with irony!
No, it is not. You apparently aren't familiar with the principle of irony. When an honest person calls a dishonest person a liar, there is absolutely no irony involved.
Again, perhaps you weren't paying attention during the summer of 2003. The "Land Use" plan was "sold" to the public on the basis of Roger Reedy's rock ribbed integrity. Reedy was (and I assume is) a high muckety muck in some church or other (the Church of Satan, I assume, given his unholy willingness to lie for his own political gain), and the people of Giles County were sold a line of bullstuff tantamount to "if you can trust Roger Reedy, you can trust his Land Use Plan. Roger Reedy can walk on water, therefore you can throw away all your property rights, and make him the zoning overlord of Giles County, etc." (I exaggerate here, but only a little.)
I guess the really big irony, is that Reedy's plan has turned out to be precisely as trustworthy as Reedy himself. That is, not to be trusted in the least!
Since you missed it last time, here is a paragraph you might want to deal with, the next time you feel like posting in this thread:
Incidentally, do you favor that citizens DO NOTHING when their so-called "representatives" break the law? For instance, the state law requires that the COUNTY COMMISSION call a meeting to hear from the public, before they can legally vote in a zoning plan. That didn't happen here, thanks to the duplicity of Roger Reedy. Do you think that's acceptable? And if you do, would you be willing to name other laws that you wouldn't mind elected officials breaking with impunity? Thanks...
Looking forward to hearing your answer! (Laughing now.)
I said:
I am (almost inarguably) the most prominent anti-zoner alive.
Let me make it clear, I was talking about the most prominent anti-zoner alive in Giles County. No doubt, there are plenty of better known anti-zoners who live in places other than Giles County.
And I made the qualification "alive" because I think the late Allan Wood probably has a greater "name recognition" than I do, even now, six years or so after his death.
Carry on...
July 16, 2007 9:33:00 PM HOW DARE YOU CRITIZIZE SHELBY OR KRISTEN. YOU WON’T FIND ANY TWO BETTER YOUNG WOMEN AT RICHLAND SCHOOL, SO, CAN YOUR STUPID REMARKS, IDIOT.
I've never seen such babyish whining. You enlightened people act as if you are the only people in Giles County who have a brain.
Why don't you folks take up a less destructive hobby such as basketweaving instead of running around with your hair on fire calling people liars, idiots, knuckleheads, etc?
Anonymous said:
I've never seen such babyish whining.
It's "babyish" to expect local officials to tell the truth, and to obey the state laws? Uh huh.
You enlightened people act as if you are the only people in Giles County who have a brain.
That's a laugh. If my opinion of the average Giles Countian is so low, why is it that I spent years fighting to get us the right to vote on zoning?
In truth, it is the pro-zoners who think they're the only ones with functioning brains. Here's a direct quote (circa 1992) of the lawyer hired by the pro-zoning power cabal, Robert L. Jones:
"Zoning is such a complicated, involved matter that it is unrealistic to expect the average voter to understand the issues well enough to make an informed decision."
Jones also argued, in his brief, that the County Commission is "better qualified to make decisions concerning adoption and amendments of zoning resolutions than are the general populous." [sic]
Writing for Allan Wood, I replied:
"Plaintiff offers no proof for its derisive opinion of Giles County's voters. Intervenor contends that, inasmuch as the qualifications for being a commissioner are identical to those for being a voter, that it is absurd to consider the commissioners as being, on average, intellectually superior to the voters. As stated in Intervenor's previous Trial Memorandum, no tests are required to hold the office of commissioner. In theory, a commissioner could be elected and hold office even while being illiterate or mentally incapacitated by retardation, alcohol or drug abuse, senile dementia, or Alzheimer's disease.
Quite literally, the only thing that distinguishes Commissioners from the general populace is that they have demonstrated a desire to serve in public office, and were able to persuade a majority of voters to place them there. This proves nothing as to the wisdom, honesty, or competence of the Commissioners; and certainly does nothing to prove their inherent superiority over the voting public. Indeed, many are of the somewhat cynical view that "lying to the voters" is the main tool for achieving elective office, and therefore, legislators are often less honest and more Machiavellian than the average voter. To say the least, Plaintiff's insulting comments regarding the voters are unsupported."
So you think I belittle the intelligence of the average Giles Countian? Riiiiiight.
Why don't you folks take up a less destructive hobby such as basketweaving instead of running around with your hair on fire calling people liars, idiots, knuckleheads, etc?
What's "destructive" about pointing out dishonesty in public officials? Yes, Roger Reedy is a liar. He blatantly lied (eg, "the LUMP is not a zoning plan") for the basest of reasons-- to grab power over his fellow man. The fact that Roger Reedy claims to be a religious believer is irrelevant; the fact is that he spouted off lies in his official capacity, and has never recanted them.
Reedy told whopper lies, and that makes him, as a matter of honest and factual identification, a LIAR. Calling a man who LIES a LIAR, is not namecalling. It may not seem "polite" to do so, but telling the truth often requires one to set aside such secondary considerations as "politeness." And that is especially the case, when the liar in question is a political office holder, holding power over his fellow men.
If we want to make this "democracy" thing work out, we must condemn, in the strongest possible terms, any politician (no matter how allegedly devout) who lies to the public.
Honesty is always the best policy-- especially for those in public office!
Boy you are too smart for your britches. Crawl back into your shell!
Anonymous said:
Boy you are too smart for your britches. Crawl back into your shell!
Okay, I'll put you down as favoring lies and lawbreaking by elected public officials.
You must be really proud of yourself!
I've had you down as a dumb ass for years.
Okay, Mr. McPeters was nice enough to put the survey on the blog. But, where did it get to? So the Hood's are saints, people are pro and con zoning and Roger Reedy is or isn't a liar. Yes, McMaster is the principal of the year. Why shouldn't she be. If you aren't at your job then you can do no wrong. I take it her peers are the principals so ask a principal if they cast their vote for her. If the majority look surprised then you will know that for sake of Milky Way and selling the school system to those moving in that a top notch principal has to be in place in that area. And who are Shelby and Kristen. Thing is get back to the survey and fill it out. Put all this other bunk on a different page. The survey will show how great any and all principals are, how great your child's teacher is, will it be necessary for your school board member to run again and will it make a difference to the governor if we send findings of what a director has done to this county.
So pleeeese stick with the survey.
July 19 person, did you fill out a form and mail it? It would be greatly appreciated.
July 23, 2007 1:27:00 PM
Shelby and Kristen are the daughters of Mr. and Mrs. Troy Hood and I take issue with anyone that wants to bad mouth them.
what does this little group hope to accomplish with this "survey"? seems to me its very pointed and intended not to find out any real truths but just to make some people they dont like look bad. theres no way in could be held accurate, becasue theres no way to tell if the same person filled it out 50 times or if 50 different people filled it out, at least as far as i can tell. even if you could call it accurate, is it legal? from what ive heard from some teachers, theres a very specific and required method of evaluating everything and everyone in the schools. if thats true, then my guess is the survey is a violation of the rights of everyone or group that it mentiones. i dont know, but it sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen to me.
I agree. What is up with this survey bull?
The school surveys are biased. If you don't want to fill one out then don't. Lawsuit waiting to happen, no names are mentioned. And believe me no one has filled one out 50 times. Send it to the DA and let him decide.
All this survey is for is to let the person that should be mentioned see where they have their strong points and where they may have their weaknesses. And not all of them are negative. As a matter of fact I have been very impressed with how positive it has been. That's what this group wants to see. And the teachers need to quit griping if they are satisfied with their working conditions.
To Tuesday, July 24, 2007 5:32:00 AM:
The school surveys are biased.
Exactly. You even admit it yourself.
Lawsuit waiting to happen, no names are mentioned.
The survey says:"Rate the Central Office: Person answering the phone, Supervisor..Special Education, Cafeterias, Director ect"
Since there's only one person those can refer to, isn't that the same as mentioning names?
...believe me no one has filled one out 50 times.
How can you possibly know for sure how many times the same person filled one out if there all sent in anonymous? And what does the DA have to do with it, is he collecting them?
All this survey is for is to let the person that should be mentioned see where they have their strong points and where they may have their weaknesses.
Thought that was what school evaluations were for? Plus again if it doesn't refer to specific names, then who is "the person that should be mentioned"? Seems that refers to someone specific.
Sorry, I just don't see the point of the survey.
I'm a teacher and I am not disgruntled. The only thing that I object to about Mr. Jackson is the apartment thing. Our schools are not suffering, our children are not suffering, our teachers are not suffering. If we want a perfect school system maybe we can find one on Mars or somewhere.
If he rents or leases an apartment, isn't he paying taxes here?
Yes he is! What's your point?
The point is simply that the whiners need to find another avenue for their venting and spewing.
this is referrinig to anonymous 91607:I have never said anything about the Hood girls.I was at Soda Pop Junction that night it happened as it was told. I'm not going to put down any young people for their actions. I do know for a fact that sharon kennedy, beth hall, & keela hood recruited cheerleading parents to join the Booster Club so they could vote on a controversial ring buying for $6,500.00 and to my knowledge none of which have been to a meeting since. In this case I hope the apples did fall a long way from the trees. I hope our school board representative doesn't show this train of thought in his actions.
Fill us in about the "controversial ring buying" - What does that mean?
Tee Jackson rents an apartment in Pulaski, does not pay property tax here but in Athena, AL. However, he is registered to vote in Giles Co.
Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:54:00 PM says...
"...the whiners need to find another avenue for their venting and spewing."
i think thats all this survey is about too. if theres any doubt then just look at the questions. almost all of them are about rating PEOPLE, and the way their written its obvious their designed to try to get negative answers.
for ex, it doesnt ask if you think the school is a safe place, it asks if the "staff" (rating people) are doing "everything possible" to make it safe. clearly looking for a negative answer if you ask me.
another ex, it asks does your child feel like teachers "dont like them". if you really want an unbiased answer, shouldnt it ask instead how is your child treated by teachers? or at least does your child feel like teachers "do or do not" like them. when negative words are used in questions, your looking to get negative answers.
sure there are a few questions threw in to make it not look that way, but if its really about saving schools, then where are the questions about curriculum, class size, the learning process? there are a few but not many.
heres a thought....instead of spending all this energy on trying to find fault with someone, why not ask what you can do to help. so what if you dont like the director or principal or teacher? is that the point of education? maybe if you focus on the positive theyll be more positive too and everyone would be better off, especially the students and schools.
Anonymous..
Thank you for that post; those are my sentiments exactly. These people are constantly on the attack and attempting to belittle or discredit those they don't like.
I too think their energies could better be used toward positives instead of continual whining about Giles County being run by a bunch of dishonest and simple-minded people. It's disgraceful, and, YES, people in other counties are astounded by it.
The victims of all this mess are quite aware of the terrible things being said on here, but they have more class and good common sense to lower themselves by responding.
Now, as for the whiner about Mr. Jackson being registered to vote yet paying no taxes here, I would beg to differ. These people have previously argued that renters pay property taxes (included in their rent). I would also like to say something about Mr. Jackson's being registered to vote here. I have a friend who lived out of state and remained registered to vote here. That is perfectly legal as long as that person does not register in the other state.
So, is there a point to all this. Yes. Stop whining and complaining.
Saturday, 10:45 AM
Can't see any "whining" in the post about T Jackson renting here and registered to vote here. Seemed to be only facts and that poster was attempting to quell the whining.
anonymous....
Have you been out of the country for the past year or so? I ask because the whining has been non-stop for a long time.
The malcontents have done and said practically everything imaginable to discredit him and embarrass his family. I think it is a rotten shame.
Looks like the snakes came out to sun themselves! "Class & good sense to not lower themselves to respond." He's in a class all by himself - falsifying funding requests year after year - got to look at all of the budgets each year - (first budget, second budget & amendments) - all of the shell game. All the whiling, whining, buckets of tears, finger nails on the blackboard & pitiful hardships to show he had to have all those annual tax increases. Then, after each tax hike got shot down, to see him slither away, grinnin like a possum, Lookie here the millions I found, burried treasure, right here in Giles CO. But - we gonna need more, cause more is better!
"Good sense" - When the headlights are in your eyes, you'd better run & hide & certainly not make any noise. The "Bruiser" has left tire tracks all over him several times. - But, idiots like you just want more money to spend - throw it here, there, everywhere, except to teachers & real educating things.
You remind me of the Biblical story of the ass keeper who woke up one morning & couldn't find them, so he wandered around the Holy land Looking for his asses. If I remember right,he never found his asses, but found God, truth, a good life - & became the first king of the jews, or something like that.
Trouble is, you've been chasing yours for several years cause you've got your nose in it & can't see for the fog. You sure ain't gonna find God where you're going. He don't like deceit & didn't like the tower of babble, & sure don't like those who do!
anonymous.....or is it bart?
Wow! Talk about describing behavior, you are pretty good at it. However, your description is so flawed that it's laughable. And then you just couldn't resist calling me a name (idiot), which is a noun.
Speaking of asses, why do you keep "exposing" yours? It reminds me of another individual who continues to do the same thing.
Lastly, if you guys have evidence of criminality, why don't you turn it over to the authorities instead of griping and making accusations. Tell me why. And please don't say it's because there are no honest people here who would handle it. Talk about paranoia? Everybody is not out to cheat or do you guys in!
Babble is what you are all about. Once upon a time, people knew what an ass was. Matter of fact, just a few decades ago, the chiding humor of chassing one's ass was quite different. But that was before all the big words expected of an 8th grade or high school graduate, had to be dumbed out to a 4th grade level! You see, our language is now programmed to be in a state of flux, with dynamic change programmed to keeeep the purveyors of babble busy lecturing and redefining that which once meant something. It's a mental disorder - a plague that severs wisdom by losing communication with the past. One might say things are all fluxed up and you don't know your ass from a hole in the ...! How outrageous - to say something you can't comprehend!
Last - for your gurggles of babble - "the authorities" are not the problem, it's the dumbing down of the masses who can no longer find their asses (asses used to be considered wealth and money). The temple of whizdom is no longer wisdom, cause the director of babble comes forth with scrolls that says the loyal subjects must come up with $2 million & more in new taxes because his vision told him to write down $2 million less revenue than he has. The vision says hold the child hostage & no food for its caretaker (teachers) so he can build pyramids on floooooding waters hill. The masses will never find their asses, cause they are being sacraficed on the side of flooding waters hill by the director of confusion & babble. Thus, when good is bad & bad is good, it's a sure thing that those who vote for good things are going to get what they deserve.
Of course you're an idiot. You see nothing wrong, you simply think wrong is right. Some gnus are getting it, which ain't good gnus fur you. What do you think is going to happen when the masses find out who's been takin their asses?
So typical of people who love to call names. Why don't you have an in-depth discussion with the man in the mirror?
What do I think is going to happen when the masses find out who is duping who? I'm sure you guys will be busy trying to enlighten the sheep, right? And no, you are wrong in your childish assertion that I see nothing wrong. I see lots of things wrong in life, but I don't go around whining and complaining about it. Like I said, if you people have any evidence, turn it over to those who have the responsibility of pursuing it.
12:46 PM
Who are the "guys" you keep referring to?
Aren't they the ones who are on here complaining and whining about all that's wrong in Giles County? Just a hunch.
But that can cover a numerous amount of people. Are n't the folks working and complaining on this questionaire topic families associated with Richland school?
You say it's good to lie about funding requests (revenue) by over $2 million in single years to increase the tax rate upon the citizens, when in fact there was no shortage of money. You say it's good to spend more because the NEA & TEA says you'll eventually get smarter. You say giving teachers a 3% raise instead of nothing is good & a good reason to raise union dues - while spending goes up 10% a year. You say it's bad to expose corruption in the school system because the image will be tarnished. I'm sure you think it's bad to flush.
You'd probably conclude that write & wrong are interrelated, therefore right or wrong are mere expressions of individual relativity, a pass to take whatever you want. One might say you've been brainwashed, but the essential ingreedament ain't there.
Ms Gotzya
"You say it's good to spend more because the NEA & TEA says you'll eventually get smarter. You say giving teachers a 3% raise instead of nothing is good & a good reason to raise union dues - while spending goes up 10% a year."
What are you talking about?
Anonymous, July 29, 2007 8:14:00 AM, said:
Lastly, if you guys have evidence of criminality, why don't you turn it over to the authorities instead of griping and making accusations. Tell me why.
What you don't understand, is that "laws" generally don't apply to elected officials. While our esteemed legislators spare NO effort to include criminal punishments for everything that WE might do, that they deem "bad," the converse is not the case. Whenever they make something illegal for THEM to do, they "conveniently" forget to make the "crime" punishable.
Thus, our elected overlords have somewhat impishly made secret meetings illegal--- but, if THEY break this law, there is no punishment meted out to THEM for committing a "crime," not even a token fine.
This is what is meant by the old saying, "a government of laws, not of men." Equal justice for all, right? Yeah, sure!
In looking at the survey I don't understand how anyone can say it can be so negative. It can go either way negative or positive. And if you call the Central Office or any of the schools the same person does not answer everytime. At the Central Office Christie is the main person to answer but Kathy, Jackie, and Diane may answer as well. So no one person is being persecuted. It looks like it could help in using the positive to encourag more positive and if there is negative to hopefully give the person some guide line to make things better.
Have you ever seen the survey given to the teachers. By process Of illimination a teacher can be figured out, and the teachers figured that point out fast, so principals don't get the real truths.
And is Mr. Jackson a tax payer. Well if taxes are included in his rent then he pays a very small some. He gets taxed when he goes to the Outlook for clothes and when he eats out everyday. But that lunch may be on his alloted extra money for expenses. So that would make it the tax payers paying the taxes.
Kathy Norman are you on this sight. Your the only person I have ever know to cover for him.
You say it's good to spend more because the NEA & TEA says you'll eventually get smarter. You say giving teachers a 3% raise instead of nothing is good & a good reason to raise union dues - while spending goes up 10% a year."
What are you talking about?
Sunday, July 29, 2007 7:08:00 PM
1. The endless NEA & TEA ad campaigns, The grass roots soldiers, the political parties, etc, SCHOOLS MUST HAVE MORE MONEY BECAUSE THEY ARE FAILING!!
THEY ARE FAILING BECAUSE THEY LEARNED TO SPEND MORE, PERIOD! The NEA & TEA Unions are all about power, bureaucracy (50% increase in 3 years), and importantness (Niagara Castle), not teacher pay (3%/yr) or keeping rain out of the classrooms (BYO raincoat)
MS Gotzya
50% increase in what, I can guarentee you it was not in dues.
bureaucrats, not union dues
Wow, I didn't realize that elected officials were above the law. Do you recall the impeachment of William Jefferson Clinton, the incarceration of those implicated in some of his and Mrs. Clinton's escapades, Scooter Libby, etc?
Anonymous
Wow, I didn't realize that elected officials were above the law.
When you pass a law which says "I'd better not conduct secret meetings, but if I do, nobody can punish me," do you call that being "under the law?" If so, you're a mouthbreathing idiot.
Do you recall the impeachment of William Jefferson Clinton,
I recall that he committed perjury while under oath -- a felony for you or me -- and got away scott free. I also recall that the whole "Lewinsky" flap was a deliberate misdirection, used to divert the public's attention from The Arkansas Fuhrer's much more serious crimes. If you don't have any idea what I'm talking about, simply google "Clinton Mena" or "Ron Brown Commerce" or "Clinton Body Count." To say that Bill Clinton was held accountable for his crimes, is simply an insult to the intelligence of anyone who knows what actually took place.
the incarceration of those implicated in some of his and Mrs. Clinton's escapades,
You mean the ones who were so terrified of "Billary" that they preferred to stay in jail, rather than turn state's evidence on the Clinton crime syndicate? That doesn't exactly buttress your claim!
Scooter Libby,
Is Scooter Libby in jail? Didn't think so. So where's this vaunted accountability that is supposed to exist, huh?
etc?
By "etc," I take it you refer to the literally thousands of Congressmen, Senators, Federal Judges, and Presidents/Vice Presidents that have taken an oath to uphold the Constitution, broken that oath repeatedly, and then were NOT punished in any way for their treachery? Well, I think that they tend to make my point, not yours.
Closer to home, we have a County Commission that just violated a state law -- TCA 13-7-105 -- by passing a zoning plan without giving public notice, or holding a meeting where the public could have discussed the plan with the Commissioners. When do you suppose these lawbreaking criminals will be arrested, tried, and put in jail?
Never? Case closed. My point stands.
Kendrick..
There's no debating you, since you have to have the last and final word.
Don't you have anything better to do with your time?
"To say that Bill Clinton was held accountable for his crimes, is simply an insult to the intelligence of anyone who knows what actually took place..."
I don't doubt that former President Clinton wasn't squeaky clean, to say the least. No argument there. But come on now, how can you claim to know "exactly" what happened? Where did you receive your information on this, as well as some other topics which are discussed here? My guess is from newspapers, television, the internet, books, and/or discussions with other people, etc. (You might have even somehow gained access to actual transcripts of cases--via the internet, for instance, where we all know information may easily be altered from one medium to the next.) Even so, surely you aren't so naive as to believe everything that you read or hear. Just as you might claim (and perhaps be correct) that those whose opinions differ from yours slant the truth or are even guilty of utter falsehoods, so you much also admit that sometimes those with whom you may agree might be guilty of the same.
My point is not to argue the innocence or guilt of Clinton or any other party, nor am I trying to discredit what you say or belittle you in any way. My point is simply that many things are stated or put into print in one form or another and declared to be true with all certainty (sometimes even with "indisputable evidence" referenced) by persons who only receive that information second-hand. I have often read "I know for a fact..." or "The facts undeniably prove..." followed by some tidbit of information, only to later discover that what has been written may only be half-truth or perhaps not true at all. Even "hard evidence" may sometimes be interpreted differently by different people.
Basically, no one knows what ACTUALLY took place in any event or situation except those who were involved and present at the time. Even in those cases, different people may interpret what happened and what they actually saw or heard in different ways.
If we refer to local events, then I am sure that you have been present at some and so may state that you know what actually happened. But if you were not present, I don't that that statement may be made, even if someone else described to you what they think "actually happened."
I just think we should all be careful about stating that we know beyond a doubt what the truth actually is unless we were present at the time.
Anonymous, August 01, 2007 6:16:00 PM:
Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I intend to answer you (and a couple of far less thoughtful posters) the next time I sit down to catch up on the blog, but right now I am bleary eyed and must catch up with my sleep, instead.
See you tomorrow!
So the point is made that truth is relative? How do we know there were death camps during WWII? None of us were there.
my father helped free the Jews from a camp in Germany. He did not make up the story & as he told me about it.... i had never saw my father show such an emotion as he did that day! No i was not there but he was with "Hell on Wheels"
so i suppose that is one way we know there were death camps ...and of course Anne Frank & 2 million more Jews that were killed know that they were there
To Friday, August 03, 2007 3:57:00 PM:
Not at all. You misunderstand my intent. Please forgive my lack of eloquence in attempting to make my point. I'll attempt to explain what I meant a little more clearly and hopefully won't make things even more confusing, though it's quite possible I might!
My point is not that truth is relative but that some people claim to know the truth based only on outside or second-hand information rather than on their own experience. I did not mean to speak (or in this case, type) in absolutes. Actually, I think borrowing your example of the Nazi death camps might help express my thoughts more clearly...
Most people would be (and in my opinion SHOULD be) appalled if someone were to claim that the Holocaust did not really take place. Yet there are actually some people who do believe that it never occurred. If you were to do a web search using the phrase "holocaust did not occur," my guess is that you would find any number of sites claiming just that, many of which that would probably also state "undeniable" evidence to support their point. What is really disquieting is that some people who read the information listed on those sites become convinced by them that the death camps never happened. They use their propoganda in an attempt to shape the perceptions of others. My point is that both "sides," those with which we agree and those with which we do not, can be equally guilty of this.
Often found on this blog are posts claiming to state facts, frequently in an effort to discredit someone. Often those "facts" are taken from some outside or second-hand source of information rather than from the person posting having actually been present and having first-hand knowledge of the incident or situation being referenced.
My point is not to dispute any particular information or point of view that is posted. On any given topic on this blog, perhaps some of that information is true. Perhaps all of it is, or perhaps none of it is, or perhaps some facts are presented selectively to encourage the readers to believe what the posters wants them to believe or what they truly believe themselves.
More specifically, my point is that Kendrick or any others posting this type of information may claim that they are enlightening us as to the way we have been misled or deceived about something. Perhaps they are. I am not attempting to say that the information they present is wrong or that it is right. I only wanted to point out that, just as what we have believe from having read or heard it second-hand may be incorrect, so might what they believe ("the other side") be incorrect if they weren't present and don't have first-hand knowledge of the situation. Basically, I just think that, in reference to the type of posts on this blog, we should all be careful of stating that we know something "for a fact," that something is "undeniably true," or that we know what "actually took place" if we weren't there when it happened, and I think both sides, not just the one with which we disagree or may be trying to disprove, can be guilty of doing this.
I hope my effort to clarify my point didn't make things even more confusing. :-)
I hope that fence ain't barbed wire.
Spoken like a true liberal you use up words with wild abandon but in the finally tally they say nothing.
Anonymous, August 01, 2007 5:55:00 PM, said:
There's no debating you, since you have to have the last and final word.
That's not really so. I enjoy online debate, and generally reply to every post directed my way. At least, that's what I do, until I get bored with the debate, or I realize that the person I'm debating cannot be reasoned with. But neither situation has occurred yet, in this or any other active thread on this blog. So, if you're interesting in discussing the issues, simply post what's on your mind...
Don't you have anything better to do with your time?
Well, I'm sure I could spend my time more productively. For example, I could flesh out the book I've got outlined. Or I could purchase an educational computer program and teach myself higher math. But the fact is, I enjoy online debate, and I'm interested in the issues that are discussed.
And I have oodles of spare time, after all. My mother requires round the clock care, and while I have plenty of "down time" when I'm not waiting on her, I still have to be "on call" 24/7. So that gives me many hours in the day that I can spend entertaining myself.
Since I'm not a television watcher, and since I enjoy writing and discussing politics, spending time on this blog seems, on balance, to be time well spent. I'm enjoying myself anyway, and that's really all that matters, so far as I'm concerned.
there you have it. somebody finally called this antigovernment antieverything group with a point that cant be refuted. even k couldnt deny it. i mean really, have you ever known him to say hes too tired to respond? as it was so nicely put all they do is whine about anyone they dont agree with trying to manipulate people when their the ones spewing the propoganda. just look at the last few topics for proof. ex- first they came for the drug dealers? laughable. the part with bushs speech is altered and faked but they want you to believe the other stuff is real? puhlease. that whole things so obvouisly fake, something made up in an attempt to make you antilaw enforcement too. you got served. my only complaint is that he was too darn nice about it.
Anonymous, August 03, 2007 11:46:00 PM, said:
there you have it. somebody finally called this antigovernment antieverything group with a point that cant be refuted.
What the hell are you talking about? Just because I haven't got an answer posted yet doesn't mean there's not one forthcoming. Try and be patient; taking care of my mother comes first, and I'm a slow typist.
even k couldnt deny it.
I don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about. Are you referring to the longish post on "what you know is true" and the follow up post clarifying his point? Well, I just haven't gotten around to answering that yet! As I pointed out earlier, it was a thoughtful post deserving of a serious reply. I can't just dash off a few lines to answer it, like I can with idiotic personal attacks like, um... your post. Just be patient and you will get to read my response! Honest injun!
i mean really, have you ever known him to say hes too tired to respond?
Good lord, man... are you trying to imply that I don't need sleep? Well, I hate to burst your bubble, but I do. The older I get, the less able I am to pull an "all nighter." And, at any rate, I have to take care of my mother, whether I get any sleep or not. And if you will look at the time stamps on some of my recent postings, you'll see that I've been staying up pretty late recently. When you couple that with having to get up whether I get any sleep or not, it's easy to see that I had a sleep deficit to catch up last night, and didn't feel like investing two hours or so, to write a detailed response to the "how do you know" post.
You can either believe that, or not. I don't really care!
as it was so nicely put all they do is whine about anyone they dont agree with trying to manipulate people when their the ones spewing the propoganda.
Riiiight. I guess that's why, when I said that the "LUMP" was copied word for word from a 1991 zoning plan which was rejected by the voters, I included a link to a website where you can read both plans, and encouraged people to read the plans and judge for themselves. You know how we "propagandists" are-- we're always encouraging people to seek out the facts, and come to their own conclusions!
just look at the last few topics for proof. ex- first they came for the drug dealers? laughable.
You think it's funny that police officers sworn to uphold the law, and who are paid by the taxpayers, engaged in torture and death threats with an innocent man, with the end result being, that taxpayers had to shell out even more money to settle a civil rights lawsuit??? You must be demented, or possess morals comparable to the Marquis deSade. Torture -- especially torture done by government employees -- is certainly no laughing matter.
the part with bushs speech is altered and faked but they want you to believe the other stuff is real?
You are an idiot. The "Bush speech" was not created by the man who was tortured by the police. Some internet radio show broadcast a story about the torture, playing audio which no one contests to be genuine, and after the torture tape was finished they played a few other things, including the obviously doctored Bush speech.
puhlease. that whole things so obvouisly fake,
Wow. I've been on the internet a long, long time, and I don't think I've ever seen anyone say something as mindblowingly stupid as this. Hellloooo? Anyone home? Before you stuck your foot in your mouth, and revealed your great lack of intelligence, you really should have googled "Eugene Siler torture." Had you done so, you'd have found PLENTY of links proving that the torture in question really happened. It's even written up on Wikipedia! Here's a link to an archive of "Knoxville News Sentinel" news stories and other such documentation:
http://piratenews.org/KnoxNews-com-torture-archive.html
It really happened, dude. Just the fact that I claimed it happened should've been enough proof for you, since I am anything but a liar.
something made up in an attempt to make you antilaw enforcement too.
As a matter of fact, I am anti "law enforcement," and I think any rational person should be too. What we used to have in this country, were "peace officers" who simply kept people from doing bad things to each other, but otherwise left people the hell alone. But nowadays, thanks to a bonanza of federal funding (often from the so-called Homeland Security folks) we have ever more militarized men in blue who are dedicated, not to preserving the peace but to enforcing the whims of the sorry assed, oath breaking bastards who lied their way into Congress. Our beloved Congresscritters refuse to obey 12 pages of simple rules for THEM, but meanwhile expect US to mindlessly obey 100,000 pages of rules (referred to as "the law of the land") that they've concocted for US. Modern day "law enforcement officers" are simply the hired muscle of the criminals who "make laws" in Washington DC, and the transnational corporations who pull their strings.
I'd prefer to scrap the 100,000 pages of Washington DC "law," fire all the paramilitary "officers" who "enforce" it, and go back to the way things used to be. You know, locally written laws that are actually reasonable and Constitutional, with old fashioned "peace officers" seeing that nobody violates the rights of anyone else. Kinda like the days of Mayberry RFD, and "peacemakers" like Sheriff Andy Taylor and Officer Friendly.
Wow. Am I the only one who thinks we're seriously headed in the wrong direction, on this issue? Just the other day, in our "free" country, "law enforcement officers" arrested a perfectly peaceful couple for the "crime" of flying their own flag upside down. And incidents like that, or even worse, happen every day, just like clockwork.
you got served. my only complaint is that he was too darn nice about it.
Are you saying that the "torture cops" were too nice to the alleged "drug dealer?" Gee, whiz. Maybe you can get a job torturing "enemy combatants" at Guantanamo Prison? Sounds like you'd be perfect for it!
Kendrick,
If you really need sleep, just read your posts. It'll get you right there.
Can anyone really read your posts and not come to the conclusion that you really are an idiot.
Kendrick..
I seldom agree with you on anything, but I did want to make a comment about whoever posted that very derogatory statement about the relationship between you and your mom. That was highly over the top, and I wanted to apologize for such blatant ignorance.
I think we all sometimes forget that we are our brothers' keepers and that each of us is part of the human family.
I agree, that post was completely uncalled for and inappropriate. But what about all the similar posts like that about other people that have been made on this blog? Posts about people and their families. Interesting that those didn't cause any uproar by the blogmaster, only when it hit home.
anonymous..
That is very true. I've read some terrible posts about people and their families on this blog. Those that come to mind are mainly county officials such as Mr. Jackson, Mrs. Norman, Mrs. Vanzant, Mr Reedy, Mr. Lovell, Mr. Griggs, and so on. And it IS a shameful thing.
If someone got on here calling one of my loved ones some of the names I've seen on here, be assured that I would go visiting the accuser!
i have yet to see where anyone called anyone's familiy into a discussion (except that one stupid remark...i haven't seen anyone's mother even mentioned yet you expect the blogmaster to just sit & let those kind of remarks about his mother just go by??
then call him a hypocrite?..yet i'll bet if he hadn't defended his mother you would call him something very different huh??
oh yeah i forgot he doesn't need me to defend him he does a damn fine job all on his own!!
Anonymous, August 06, 2007 9:42:00 PM, said:
If you really need sleep, just read your posts. It'll get you right there.
Naw, it's not that what I write is boring... it's just that I often use large words, and complicated sentence structures, and since some people simply aren't intellectually geared to my prose, their minds drift while reading, and they tell themselves they're getting bored.
But the truth is, it's just like those "you must be this tall to ride" bars they have at most amusement parks. If you don't "measure up," you aren't going to get very much out of the experience. Sorry about that!
Can anyone really read your posts and not come to the conclusion that you really are an idiot.
I don't know. Why don't you offer some specifics, rather than simply engaging in namecalling? You think I'm an idiot? Fine. In that case, you should be able to point to at least one specific thing which I've said that is obviously wrong, and tell me exactly why I'm wrong about it. So, go ahead, Mister Smart Guy... take your best shot. And please be specific!!!
Anonymous, August 08, 2007 4:26:00 PM, said:
Interesting that those didn't cause any uproar by the blogmaster, only when it hit home.
Dude, nothing that was posted here about me "hit home." I have very thick skin, and I've been attacked for my beliefs, many, many times before.
The problem was, I had to choose between answering my "critics" -- in which case it was a certainty that I'd soon have no time to do anything else on the blog -- or I could simply ignore them -- in which case, they'd shout with glee that I couldn't answer them, hah hah hah -- and, in my opinion, either option was rather dreadful.
So, after I found myself getting only three hours of sleep, because I'd stayed up six hours past my bedtime, responding to sleazy anonymous character assassins... I found myself desperate for a way out. And then I remembered a sarcastic remark I'd made to one of my "critics" about his needing to spend his time at a "Thomas the Tank Engine" blog... and I thought, "Eureka!"
I realized that I did have a way out of the trap. I'd simply create a new blog, and move all the posts that attacked me to that blog, where I'd completely ignore them. This way, my "critics" would still get their sacred "free speech" to say anything they wanted to about me, and I wouldn't have to waste my precious time replying to them. And, by going with a "Thomas the Tank Engine" theme on the "malcontent's blog," I could make crystal clear what I thought of their intelligence and level of maturity.
Of course, I need to write down, and post, a new set of rules, to establish that ALL baseless pseudo-criticism will be sent to "The Mouthbreather's Zone" -- whether it is an attack on me, or anyone else. When I'm done -- please be patient! -- we will finally be able to enjoy having a real debate here, without having to worry about stupid people flinging around ad hominens as a substitute for the facts.
And, of course -- as always -- if you don't like my rules of decorum, you are free -- perfectly free! -- to create your own blog and operate it any damned way you please!
Please get back to the main posting. IT is very important to know how people feel about their schools. It would be nice to get more of the questionaires. People stay on task.
anonymous..
I believe if you will read back far enough you will read several derogatory remarks about elected officials and their families. Some are subtle and others just come right out and imply, "suggest" or accuse. I'll not mention any names but one such incident came up when remarks were made about where one appointed official had his hand in a picture on this very blog. And where did that come from? I've seen remarks made about commissioner' wives and "suggestions" of improper behavior.
Oh yes, it's been on here, and it is a shame.
Thursday, August 09, 2007 8:40:00 AM --
then you havent read close enough. ive seen it so many times i cant count. ive even had remarks made about members of my own family on here, who have nothing to do with what i do. what was done about that? nothing.
yet you still remain anonymous???
Why wouldn't he? If he got angry, spoke up and demanded that it stop, it would only get worse. If he asked politely that it stop, then he would only be derided even more himself. Don't you get it, that's exactly what they want. They want to provoke someone to fight back and argue, because as long as they get a response, then they can respond back with even more derogatory remarks. Then it just keeps going and going. That's the way these people work. The only way to deal with stupidity is to ignore it.
so logically anyone with good mental health would not be on here reading & writing in this blog because it would show a lack of intelligence or maybe lack of thought to do so?
but if we move them to mouthbreathers zone then they are being picked on for expressing their thoughts. however irrational they may be.
and most of all why would any thinking person waste their valuable time on earth worrying over some words & sentences on a blog that anyone in giles county could go set up one & write whatever they pleased in it or the other extreme not ever click on this page and read nothing here...
lord knows there are plenty of blogs going unread at this very moment
funny ole world we live in today ain't it?
It is sad to think the whiners and complainers have an opportunity to speak out but don't with the questionaire.
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