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Thursday, February 25, 2010

Stray Dogs In Pulaski

A poster asked about this subject and I have posted their comment as a new thread so others might comment.

I would like to know how the citizens feel about the stray dogs in town. the city has passed this new ordance limiting the way citizens can have dogs but they turn a blind eye to all of the dogs running around town. most of these dogs have just been abandoned by their owners. The city don't have a dog catcher and the rabies control for the county doesn't pick up stray dogs. Am I the only person that feels there should be a person assigned to animal control inside the city of Pulaski. There are probably 50 or 60 dogs and no telling how many cats running around the city.
Thursday, February 25, 2010 4:31:00 PM

43 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city does not have a dog catcher.

Thursday, February 25, 2010 9:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm surprised the county mayor didn't get the blame for it.

Thursday, February 25, 2010 10:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

there is no 'county mayor'..but speer should be held accountable for alot of other things in pulaski, imo.

Friday, February 26, 2010 8:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:24 Are you angry and vengeful?

Friday, February 26, 2010 9:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:24 why don't you use all your contacts around town to find out there is no county mayor in this county. One day you may wake up in the 21st century and realize your fantasy world is just that a fantasy.

Friday, February 26, 2010 9:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see the name calling has started a couple of posts already~another topic gone to the dogs.

Friday, February 26, 2010 10:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Question: Why does the "City" not have a dog catcher? Why would the "city" want the "County" to supply a single city a dog catcher, and also hang the county for a dog pound? Because they want the county to take the blame and expense I guess.

So it's not a County Mayor---County Executive, why argue over the title...exec, mayor,administrator whatever?? they do the same type of job,.

Friday, February 26, 2010 10:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are more cities in giles county other than pulaski. They each have their own individual mayors.

And no, im not angry or vengeful. However, i do operate a small business in pulaski, and i FULLY understand that having Dan Speer in charge is NOT a good thing. He has said on more than one occasion that he wants pulaski to be a 'retirement community', meaning no new industry/jobs, and keeping the status quo. I have lived here all of my life, and see the struggles that the citizens of our county endure. We need someone in charge that truly WANTS to lead our county towards more prosperity. I just dont think that is in Dan Speer's agenda.

Friday, February 26, 2010 1:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Henry said...

The City of Pulaski, just like the City of Minor Hill, Elkton, Lynville & Ardmore all have a dog catcher. His name is John Murray. The citizens of all of those cities pay county taxes. They are just fortunate enough to pay city taxes too, (At least in Pulaski's case).

To 10:55 the residents of the single city of Pulaski should want the county to supply them with a dog catcher because they pay for it.

Henry

Friday, February 26, 2010 3:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you all must have add. no one on this blog can stay on track. this thread was started to talk about a problem and it has turned into an argument over wheather there is a county mayor cant anyone stay on track.

P.S John Murray is not a dog catcher, he is the rebies control officer. he will not pick up a dog unless there has been a bite and try calling the pound he is only in the office two days a week for two hours a day. if you dont believe me call and listen to the message

Jerry

Friday, February 26, 2010 4:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Read Rule of Law Below:
Around #70 post.
Amen.

Friday, February 26, 2010 7:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm getting sick and tired of the City of Pulaski's Mayor stating that they pay County Taxes also. Well that maybe so but that does not mean that the county has to take care of all your dog problems. Like the above poster said, John Murrey is not a dog Catcher, he is a Rabies Control Officer and if the City of Pulaski wants a Dog Catcher they need to hire one.

Friday, February 26, 2010 7:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Woofy said...

ALL the cities of Giles Co plus the County govt need to get together and raise the $$ to establish a decent animal control and adoption center . Have you been out to the existing facility near the Hwy Dept in Pulaski ? It's a terrible place for cats and dogs , male or female , young or old all dumped in together (dogs and cats are separated ) . John tries his best but doesnt get a whole lot of support in covering the whole county by hisself .
Time for some volunteers -or trusty prisoners from up on the hill behind the existing building?-to try and help .DONT keep on bitchin , start helpin .
Woofy

Friday, February 26, 2010 9:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our county executive is officially known as a County Mayor according to the state of Tennessee.

Check on legislation that changed the title!!!!!!

It seems that some of us are a bit behind the times.

Melanie

Friday, February 26, 2010 9:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seems you are the one who is a bit behind a special resolution was passed that returned the title to county executive.

Friday, February 26, 2010 11:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are eight dogs in my neighborhood who roam....in the city....and they are NOT strays. Very annoying.

Sunday, February 28, 2010 1:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yep, the city has gone to the dogs!

I'd rather see them roundin up some of the crooks & connivers than poor old dogs & cats who haven't done nothin to anybody

Come to think of it, dog catcher is something Mr jacksi or spear could do that wouldn hurt nobody or the county!

Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

your english is absolutely horrible.

Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shoot the dogs and cats and feed them to hungry people. Next topic please.

Monday, March 01, 2010 3:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe we could get the dogs to wipe out the cats & then rent a tiger from a zoo to wipe out the dogs???

Monday, March 01, 2010 7:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Surely there are better discussions to be had about more relevant topics.

Monday, March 01, 2010 8:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Stacy said...

We do have a Dog Catcher.. but he needs help, and a better facility, in order to serve ALL of Giles County. With more funding, he would be able to build and staff a better shelter and handle more adoptions rather than having to put the animals to sleep.

Monday, March 01, 2010 8:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stacy
There are many people in Giles county that would like to see an animal adoption program here. The county executive was to look into getting one started. Do you know what happened about that? Thanks

Tuesday, March 02, 2010 8:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Stacy said...

8:35 am,

No, I don't know whatever happened with that. I have been hearing for some time now that they were hoping to approve a budget to include the new facility and help with an adoption program... but, apparently nothing has been done yet.

Tuesday, March 02, 2010 4:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

John Murray is the dog catcher. He does not have his number listed in the phone book. Notice the last name is MURRAAAAAAAAAy. Not Murrey. Murrey gets alot of the calls at all hours. Mrs. Murrey has told me that I have to call the pound and leave a message. She will tell you to listen to the Dog-Gone- Show she will call and give them the info to get the number right, which is not listed.
Now a question, If a person is working as a local government official shouldn't they have to have a phone number listed?

Wednesday, March 03, 2010 4:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Still concerned about dogs who are NOT strays.....don't want to call police on neighbors...and won't. Really wish they would keep dogs inside, on a leash, or fenced in. It's a law.

Wednesday, March 03, 2010 8:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Stacy said...

If I were in John's position, I would not want my home number listed in the phone book either. He doesn't get paid to be on call 24 hours a day every day. Government official or not... everyone deserves a day off and some provacy. I have never called the pound after hours, but if there is not a way to leave a message for him, there should be. If there is some sort of emergency at night, I assume someone would call 911.

I agree 8:30pm, if an animal is causing problems in the neighborhood, the owners should make sure they are contained to their own yards and not disturbing others.

Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I suggest that if a dog is bothering you late at night just go out and shoot it!

Friday, March 05, 2010 8:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:37 Sure, if you want to be arrested. Too, some of us have compassion for animals.

Friday, March 05, 2010 10:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the dog is causing that big of a disturbance call the police and complain.

Sunday, March 07, 2010 8:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's not late at night....it's during the morning, noon, afternoon, and night....carrying items away from house to chew...using bathroom in yard...etc.

Sunday, March 07, 2010 12:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:25 We have dogs but they dont bother other people. You should not put up with what you are having to. I know the neighbors might get disgruntled but what have you got to lose if you complain to the cops. Try talking to the owners first and if they dont do anything, then call. That way you can tell the police you tried to work it out.

Sunday, March 07, 2010 4:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are right - just dread it! Thank you.

Sunday, March 07, 2010 8:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:57 Most of us try to get along and be good neighbors. However, there comes a point when you have to think about your rights, too. Good luck. Let us know how you come out.

Monday, March 08, 2010 11:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wish the VVM (Very Vocal Minority) would be better neighbors and try to get along with others...other than themselves..

Saturday, March 13, 2010 8:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:03 You would be surprised how popular they are. Seems its you who has the neighbor problem.

Sunday, March 14, 2010 8:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:08
I beg to differ with you on the VVM's supposed popularity. Obviously, you and I do not talk to the same people.

Sunday, March 14, 2010 12:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:42 So true.

Sunday, March 14, 2010 9:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lacking any form of animal control to deal with uncollared and unidentified stray dogs and cats running loose obviously is a long standing problem that can only be blamed on the establishment. A city that does not have a dog catcher has failed. Even dogs that are known and owned are let out the front door to free roam it isn't an issue in Pulaski. Obviously no one cares about existing laws on free roaming pets. That carries over to the stray ones since most people would just as soon assume that the dog is a local pet and think nothing more of it.

There has been a mass outbreak of these creatures free roaming the city because given the financial climate some people can no longer afford to feed these former "pets". So, in order not to be identified by locals or their neighbors as recognizing the dogs having a source, they load up the animals and drive to a grocery store in another town and let them go and then drive away.

If you are out and about a lot you will see sometimes that they are running in packs. There are so many that they have formed associations like animals will and run in packs. Just the other day on College street there was a pack of five of them just cruising down the middle of the road like they owned it, literally bringing traffic to a stop. They are unkempt and skinny meaning they are abandon and searching for food. Food outlets also attract them due to the odor of food.

Can't blame the dogs for this. Abandoning such an animal as is common is a charge of animal cruelty if the owner can be found out.

I have seen more of these at Walmart and Save-A-Lot than anywhere else. What actually happens to all these dogs I don't know but there is a regular supply that come and then go. Maybe they die in the woods or get hit by cars or are picked up and taken home by people.

Also notice that they are all mongrels, mixed breeds of whatever type dogs. That's another reason to dump them since have no value as such except to remain tied up and bark 24 hours a day or kept in the house as noise alarms. None of the males have been neutered which suggests that these "pets" did not come from an animal shelter and most likely were not registered anyway and have not had rabies shots.

Then they are loose in the city and frequenting out of the way places and start having altercations with raccoons. Raccoons living in the city have been known carriers of rabies and such raccoons and stray dogs vie for the same food source which more often that not is refuse. I lived in a city one time that had an outbreak of rabies linked to stray dogs interacting with Raccoons and it was a first class disaster. I don't think that City Hall needs to be reminded that the last thing they need is state officials crawling all up in their business wanting to know how this happened, if it happens.

If the dogs aren't interdicted the situation is prime conditions for a local outbreak of rabies so I think the local Health Department should toss in their two cents worth on the dangers of free roaming dog situation.

Since there is no existing animal control to deal with this and the dogs are not owned by anyone the legal status of these dogs defaults to that of wild animals. As such maybe the city could appeal to the state for assistance in some form or maybe get money to implement the office of a dog catcher.

Arguing about who is responsible to interdict these wild dogs, city or county resolves nothing.

Since tax money is flying in every direction at once with the citizen paying both city and county taxes while yet having no one to turn to for the stray dog situation I think the arguing should cease and the city and county should make it a collaborative effort.

Friday, March 19, 2010 1:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As long as Pulaski is a part of the county the county rabies control person should take care of the dog situation in Pulaski.
However, unles he does a better job than he has been doing in out lying areas of the county where they have a stray dog ordinance then you won't be getting much.

He expects those who call with a dog complaint to either tie the dogs up or put them in a pin so that he doesn't have to look for them.

This sounds almost reasonable until you realize first: that most people who are not dog owners have a means to tie the animals or a pen to put them in. Secondly, if there is a possiblity of rabies I don't have any desire to corner the dog to tie or pin it.

Don't know about you guys.

Saturday, March 20, 2010 3:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3:30 Please explain more on the county having a dog Ordinance. Its my understanding the county commissioners cannot write Ordinances. Are you referring to the State leash laws? Thanks

Saturday, March 20, 2010 7:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city of Elkton has a dog ordinace that requires that all dogs will be restrained. For a while there was cooperation between the local law and the county rabies control officer in getting this taken care of, but now he expects the citizens making the complaint to either tie the dog or to pin the animal up.

I don't intend to try to handle an animal that I know nothing about especially if the dogs appears vicious.

I consider that to be the job of the person hired by the county to handle any dogs that show any viscious traits.

Monday, April 05, 2010 12:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pulaski is the county seat of Pulaski County. Why all the talk about Giles County's responsibility for stray dogs in Pulaski?

Sunday, January 20, 2013 11:50:00 AM  

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