Fraud and Abuse By The County Executive?
This morning at the public hearing on the budget I spoke
about three items of concern. One was the irresponsible way some contracts are
made without any knowledge of what the contract involves. The second was to ask about whether the
county had pursued any efforts to have part of their airport maintenance
expense reimbursed by the state, as the city has.
The third thing was a simple matter of the County Executive
using taxpayer money to reward her friends who are members of the County
Legislative Body.
On 24 April 2014 a budget committee meeting was held.
Commissioner Coleman, who is on the Budget Committee but only attended 2 and ½
of the six meeting held, was absent from that meeting and Commissioner Campbell
sat in for her. After the meeting was adjourned Commissioner Coleman walks in
and goes straight to the county executive. Mrs. Vanzant then writes
Commissioner Coleman’s name on the sign in sheet and makes a notation that both
Commissioners Campbell and Coleman were to receive thirty dollars each for the
meeting. This was not only unethical on the part of the County Executive but also
Commissioner Coleman, who was aware or should have been aware this was
inappropriate but said nothing, it is also a violation of Commission rules ,
and is criminal in that it constitutes fraud and misappropriation of taxpayer
funds.
My comments, not surprisingly, were met with dead silence.
posted by Allen Barrett | 2:14 PM
217 Comments:
You mean after the meeting is over a commissioner can come by and get paid for it? That doesn't seem right. Is there nothing can be done about it?
Yes 4:12 something can be done about it. In the up coming election get people to vote for a new county executive. One that looks after tax payers money rather than giving it away.
Isn't it the financial management director's job to make sure only one gets paid?
5:30 Let's watch and see if this Financial Management director does her job right.
To me the point is getting paid when you aren't at meeting. You should have to be there for all the meeting at least 3/4 of the meeting to get paid.
After this if Mrs. Vanzant gets elected there is a lot of people out there that only care for their family, friends and don't give a hoot about the tax payers.
Wonder how many times this has happen before.
The Financial Management Director has no way to determine who is or not at a meeting she receives the sign in list from the County Executive and like any other invoice pays it.
I will be taking this to the Grand Jury in July as that seems to be the only recourse. This is not the only time this has happened but this is the one time I have all the proof, the sign in sheet, the payout and the video of the meeting.
What will be interesting is to see if any of the local media will publish the information. I have given it to them now only time will tell.
If this was a budget meeting would the financial management director not need to be there? And plus if there are only 7 districts would she not know that she paid 8 people?
Mr. Barrett, Make several copies of the video before anyone else gets their hands on it. Then don't give them the original one.
Or better yet. Tell us on the blog that you have made a copy of it when you really haven't and then you can accuse people of changing it. What an idea!
So that is the type of commissioner you want to be? A committee meeting discusses issues dealing with millions of dollars of taxpayer money and you can only focus on $30 your opponent is paid for taking time out of her day to come to the courthouse? No thanks. I will be supporting Goolsby, Campbell and Coleman for the 7th District and I urge all responsibly thinking adults to do the same.
6:25 The meeting was adjourned after she arrived. If she was paid for attending a meeting she did not attend it is fraud. Since the meeting was adjourned she did not attend the meeting. I live in the 7th district and wish to be represented by those who do not desire to engage in fraudulent activity at the tax payer's expense. The fact you promote such activity and see nothing wrong with fraud proves you are an enabler of wrongful behavior. I applaud Barrett and hope the Gran Jury does their duty. I urge all responsible thinking adults in the 7th district to cast only one vote for Barrett.
My apologies the first sentence should state, she arrived to the meeting after it had been adjourned, therefore it was over.
Taking time out of her busy day to go to a meeting when it is almost over, what a laugh. CG haven't you ever heard pennies count? What good was it of her being there when everything had already been discussed.
Has anyone asked their commissioner about this? It's time to see if they are truthful.
6:25 and you say that you are not an enabler of wrongdoing?
I guess your Bible must be one of the newer ones says, "Thou shalt not steal unless it's above a certain amount".
I have provided proof of a thief, it doesn't matter how much was stolen it points to chaaveracter. Would you endorse a little adultery, maybe for you it's ok to beat your wife if it's only on weekends.
Now for those, possibly the same enabler as 6:25, who is trying to refocus the responsibility for this fraud onto the Financial Management Office and the Director specifically. The Financial Management Director has no responsibility whatsoever for the sign-in sheet, tracking who is present, transporting the information or anything else to do with the meetings other than to be present and provide information when requested. It's very doubful that she even has any on hand knowledge of the procedure. My understanding is that Commissioner Terry Harwell receives the invoices and distributes them for payment. It is the responsibility of the County Executive Mrs. Vanzant to provide the sign in sheets and moniter attendance.
The unique thing here is that it was the County Executive,Mrs. Vanzant, who falsified the record and committed fraud against the people of the county. This may seem like a small thing to some but it is irrefutable evidence of corruption and I believe is only the tip of the iceberg.
So those like 6:25 who choose to dismiss fraud, thief, lying, etc. are not only enablers of wrongdoing they have become co-conspirators in the abuse of power and the people of the county. If you continue to elect crooks expect to continue being fleeced.
6:25 when a person runs for a position as a commissioner they surely have investigated the meeting requirements. Therefore they should not be concerned about attending a meeting during the day. Your post is about like a woman saying she is a little bit pregnant. Since $30 isn't enough for you at what amount do you think fraud should start?
Any commissioner who attends a meeting whether they are on the committee or not GETS PAID. This is so wrong but they passed this rule for their own benefit years ago.
Mr. Barrett..
I am the one you falsely accused of (lied) being an enabler of wrongdoings. That's right; you LIED, and I am going to point that out to you or to your follower anytime I am here and see it. And by the way, today is the first time I have been on this filthy blog in close to two weeks now. I heard about your little episode with Mr. Vanzant and wanted to come see what you might be stirring up now. Sure enough, I wasn't surprised.
I noticed that you again took your cheap shots at Mrs. Vanzant and Mrs. Coleman. I was a bit surprised that you didn't have anything to say about Mr. Harwell. Perhaps you just forgot.
How does it feel to be one of the most despised people in Giles County? You are, and you know it. Does that bother you? And for all the misery you have caused, has it been worth it? Just asking.
I am and remain...
CG
And before Barrett or his follower accuses me of lying about not being on this blog in two weeks or more, I have to say that, in checking a post I made on another thread, it has only been about a week. I recently decided that it's not worth it to argue with these individuals, so I only come here every now and then to see what he and his buddy are up to now. .
Enabler,
Everyone knows you are a whining, lying, enabler, as you have proved in this thread, who comes on here for the specific reason to attack Barrett. Do you have any proof Barrett has lied about what he posts in this thread? If not then your defense of the fraud, (a.k.a.-wrongdoing) is rock solid proof that you are an enabler.
It also shows that Mr. Barrett's opponents in the 7th district will stop at nothing to attack him.
My vote is for Barrett.
cg, I think you can answer a question you asked Barrett. You are running a close second to being the most despised person in Giles County.
Why didn't you tell us about Barrett's run in with Mr. Vanzant. Sounds like another of your lies if you cann't prove it.
Did anyone notice when cg didn't post not much went on. He just couldn't take it could he. LOL
Please stop picking on CG. Poor guy, he is going to go through the rest of his live refering to himself as " the one Mr. Barrett falsely accused as being an enabler of wrong doing". Do you think he uses that as a title or a middle name when he signs his name? Or do you think he boldly announces it after his last name?
5:47
You are the one who is the enabler...enabling Allen Barrett's lie. And your promotion of that lie makes you just as deceitful as he was in telling it.
7:07
Why didn't Mr. Barrett tell you about the incident. Ask him.
Barrett calls someone a thief???? Wow. Now that is the pot calling the kettle black. Was stolen property found at HER house too?
10:45 You mentioned not Barrett, so that is why I asked you. That makes you the one wanting to start trouble.
Are you also 6:53 mentioning something but want tell what it is. Leaves people to think you lied.
If what you say is true don't you think people should know?
6:53 What a coward you are to make such an accusation and not identify yourself. Barrett made a charge and showed the proof and put his name on it.
You are such a coward to make such a claim with out showing your proof and hidding yiur name. You are not only an enabler you are a cowardly gossiping liar.
How many whiskey and beer bottles have you found in your yard, it's a weekly thing at my house does that make me an alcoholic?
Lol. Go ahead Allen. Tell them.
Howard
Are you perhaps Mr. Barrett posting under another name? The name-calling makes me think it's you.
Anyhow, if you will stop lying about my willfully going along with things I know to be wrong, I will stop reminding you. That's fair. How would you like it if I was making that same accusation about you?
By the way, it was not me who made the 6:53 post.
CG
12:49 I wasn't addressing you cg. If you would pay attention to what is said insteadnof looking for ways to attack Barrett.You are not the only enabler.
CG I posted 8:11 noticed you didn't reply to me.
You was the one mentioned Barrett and Mr. Vanzant had a problem. Why can you start something and not finish it.
I noticed someone tried to say the police had to call Barrett down at the board meeting. I talked to someone who was there and standing near the one they had to call down. This person said Barrett was no where near them. Lies like that are told so that left me wondering if what you said was true.
Allen will tell you what was found at his house I am sure.
The person that mentioned it should tell. That is a good way to start rumors.
I know one was started about the board meeting, because I was standing near WAB and it was no where near us where the police ask them to be quiet or leave.
Starting rumors must be fun for some unintelligent people.
What does what Barrett or CG does have to do with Mrs. Vanzant letting Mrs. Coleman get paid for a meeting that was over when she got there.
I bet after this post on the blog she doesn't get paid.
1:28
Obviously. Anyone who disagrees with what you guys are trying to do gets called a variety of names.
6:53 didn't even have the guts to directly accused Barrett of doing anything wrong just imply it. I don't know what Barrett did or didn't do but I can read and think for myself and that sign in sheet speaks loudly that Vanzant, if that is her writing, is a thief along with Coleman.
I believe that Barrett making this sign in sheet public has made him a target of a very vindictive county mayor who has a history of doing anything it takes to hold on to her power. Ask some of the county commissioners who have tried to go against her how they are treated and being treated
I don't know how many times Barrett is wrong he seems right most of the time but I do know that CG is wrong most of the time and his arrogant self-righteousness makes me sick.
I have said it before, I do not understand why people even bother with CG and his BS. All that does is encourage him to post more crap. It's like arguing with a person in a nut house. A outsider can't tell the difference.
Similarly, I am not sure how often Barrett is wrong but I know he is hypocritical every time.
I think Mrs. Vanzant should sue Barrett for this one. He's gone too far...again.
Yeah, I bet she would just love being under oath and answering questions 5:07
Gone too far my ass. If what Barrett said is true, she should resign for being an idiot. I am saying this, and I have absolutely no respect for Barrett.
I may be missing something. No where on that paper does it show she is being paid. She just signed in, albeit late. But the paper still shows Campbell sat in for her during the meeting and that he was being paid the $30. Looks someone just wants a campaign issue. But I am intrigued now by this reference to stolen property at Barrett's house. I heard something about that too at Hardees. Not that such a source is credible at all. Still would be interested in knowing if it is true.
Is what had the red ring around it Mrs. Vanzant's writing or Barretts? Just wondering.
3:15 Is Barrett any more hypocritical in his post than CG is?
10:16 If stolen things was found at Barrett's house why has this not been in the paper?
Did someone plant something at WAB's house to try and get him in trouble be the reason we haven't heard anything about it on the news or in paper?
I see 30 beside Campbell and 30 beside Coleman.
Yes. Of course! Why didn't I think of that? Those items were planted there to get him in trouble. That is what happened, isn't it Allen?
6:02 Sounds like something you would do. Why didn't I think of that?
Allen you are pissing into the wind.
I can't believe that anyone would defend the sleazy deception of Vanzant or anyone else who would steal from the people. Makes me wonder about who it was that stole the tires and other stuff from the EMS and never charged.
For those who wonder about stolen property at Barrett's house, as much as he is hated by Vanzant and her group do you really think something like that would not have been spread all over the place? If he wasn't charged with anything then I doubt he did anything. People need to get real and not let distractions take them away from the real issue of Vanzant stealing from the people for her crooked friends.
I might agree so long as the property found at Barrett's was not stolen from the county. Let's await his explanation.
9:52 You must love starting rumors.
Tell us what and when it happen or grow up and stop telling tales.
Don't come back at Barrett can tell us. You started it your place to tell us.
Sounds like children, “I know something you don’t know.” “Tee hee I know something others don’t know.”
I am sure Barrett will explain all.
11:22 Not his place to explain. You start something, but don't have the balls to finish it.
Sounds like lying. Carrying tales and gossip anyway.
Is that being a religious person?
I don't think going in the closet and praying should be forgiven for this.
Sure it is. He has accused a county official of bring a thief. If stolen property was at his house and he is a candidate for the same county position of the one he accuses then he absolutely owes it to to every person in the county to explain it. No matter how hypocritical he may then appear.
8:10 I think the real sleazeball is the one who accused Mrs. Vanzant of stealing. Shame on you for defending that. But thanks for helping her to be re-elected.
If it's not stealing 3:59 then what do you call it. You can't believe to authorize a person to get paid for something they didn't do and for that person to take the payment is okay.
3:59, Please post your address so I can send you a bill for cutting your grass.
I think the real fraud here is a worthless S.O.B. that applies for a handicapped placard to park in handicapped parking spaces when he has no real handicap! So what exactly is your handicap Allen Barrett! Pot is calling the kettle black isn't it?
Mr. Barrett...
If Mrs. Vanzant doesn't sue your sorry butt, she's missing a golden opportunity. At the VERY LEAST, she ought to write a letter to the editor outlining the accusations you have made. What would the voters in your district think of you then?
I wish she would write out all of the accusation and right after each one write out her response.
To the 5:04 poster, Mrs Vanzant will do as she pleases but there is little that would please me more than getting her under oath and testifying about a whole number of things.
Well doesnt that just SUCK! What a jerk that Barrett is for responding to the accusations. Now what are we going to do for the rest of the night?
NOW CG WHAT HAVE YOU TO SAY?
Barrett
YOU are the one who made vicious charges, and I hope Mrs. Vanzant hauls your sorry butt into court.
You are one more piece of work. How` does it feel to be someone like you? I just don't get it.
I just had to laugh when you mentioned the reasons why you don't go house-to-house campaigning. I was in your neighborhood the other day and just happened by your house. I noticed that the only campaign sign out there was the one in YOUR front yard. What a laugh.
Why don't you go ask Jerry Bryant if you can put one of your signs in his yard? LOL!
8:21 Do you think there is room for more signs in Jerry Bryant's yard?
As a supporter of the band I am offended that you walked right by our equipment and made no inquiry as to where it came from, who paid for it or why it was in your home. Talk about outright theft of county property.
6:07, if you are such a supporter of the band how come you did'nt notice it missing and file a report?
Rumor has it and I will classify this as a rumor. The rumor is that Terry Harwell requested a copy of this same reciept two days before Mr. Barrett and that he is trying to undermind her and run for County Ex next go round.
7:30 I was in the band then. We did report the theft. I don't have any idea whether he was grounded or not, but I know the thug thief laughed about taking the equipment. In the army now? Good riddance. He's their problem now.
Vicky is the one going to run next time. Don't you just love rumors. Watch out or you will be better than cg on the rumors deal.
6:07 Just how long was the band equipment gone from the school?
Isn't it great to get paid for a meeting when you wasn't there for all of it. Wish I could get paid for my job and not show up for all hours. My boss thinks better of his boss (tax payers).
8:02, Ahhh, that was high school. What a wonderful time. I'm sorry to hear that you are still stuck in Pulaski. Let me guess, 2 or 3 kids? 4? All by the same daddy? At least the thug thief is working for the money he gets from the government. Oh, and before you make up some phony crap of how sucessful you are and you chose to stay in Pulaski, save your breath because when you post anonymous we have no way to know if you're full of crap or not.
Are you really defending the theft? How sad.
What about those commissioners wanting to take money away from the schools and give to the money sucking Hihway Department?
What about those commissioners wanting to take money away from the schools and give to the money sucking Hihway Department?
8:24 isn't it wonderful that you can condemn a child for a stupid mistake who paid a big price for their mistake but you defend two adults serving as county officials stealing taxpayer money without any remorse.
God must be smiling at how Charitible you are.
There is no stealing going on, and Mr. Barrett is making false accusations. Have you ever heard of state auditors?
Was the state auditor at the meeting?
Were you at the meeting 12:33?
1:15
The state auditor doesn't have to be at meetings to keep a close eye on all the books. And whether I was at the meeting or not is none of your business.
So we should take the word of a known liar, you, over the written documentation? Laughable.
The state auditor doesn't know if the person was at the meeting they are being paid for or not. Mrs. Vanzant has put Ms Coleman's name down as she was there, so the auditor
believes she was there.
That is really sad to think Mrs. Vanzant would do that.
7:44AM:
It's a good thing that you classified the content of your post as a rumor because it is completely absurd. All of the receipts for the County go through Terry Harwell, so he would have no reason to request a copy of said receipt. Also, he is NOT attempting to "undermine" Janet, nor does he have any intention or desire to run for County Executive in four years or anytime for that matter.
Some of you people really do get carried away with your tall tales...
~A County Employee
Dear County Employee
Are you using the county computer to post on the blog during county time? I ask this since you posted at 2:08 p.m. on a work day.
If all receipts go through Terry Harwell, why did he not catch the error of 8 commissioners asking to be paid $30 each instead of the usual 7 commissioners? Surely its his job to look over everything before he passes invoices on for payment? The invoice in question is visual without him having to figure through anything. One has to ask how many times this same thing has happened in the past.
Are you really sure harwell can count that high? Word on the street is that he didn't finish high school. Just saying.
I have a question and keep your panties on. I'm not finding fault, just don't know what goes on and would like to.
Mr. Tommy Pollard and Mr. Stoney Jackson was at the meeting, but not on the committee, do they get paid $30.00. I see nothing wrong with it just wondering if they were suppose to get paid. I admire them for being at the meeting and seeing what goes on even if not on the committee.
As commissioners attending a committee meeting but not as a member of that committee, they would have been [aid $15 each.
6:15 Thanks. I admire the commissioners that attend committee meetings they aren't a member. It shows they are interested in the county.
Commissioner Tommy Pollard donates his commissioner pay to charities and Veteran groups.
That's nice of Commissioner Tommy Pollard, bet no one else does that.
looks like the enablers succeeded is changing the subject from the shameful misuse of office and thief by a county official to Mr. Barrett.
Just saw on the news where the county mayor in Sumner County sent a city employee to South Carolina to pick up his personal truck, used the city gas card and stayed overnight at county expense and the Mayor told the reporter that "I don't see a problem with it and nobody else does". Sounds like the guy could be living here in the land of milk and honey.
As long as he doesn't steal band equipment from our hard working high school musicians you mean. We seem to have enough of those types.
So now you are stating Barrett stole the equipment?
It's ok for Coleman to take money for meetings she doesn't attend.
It's ok for Harwell to cuss and attack citizens, lie to the police, and then be put in a job which he is not qualified as well as conflicts with his elected position?
But Barrett is guilty of the crimes committed by an underage youth?
You seem like a big ole dumb ass.7:04
7:26
So the attacks on all of the 7th District candidates (except for Barrett) are going to heat up now. This was so predictable, and the voters in 7th District see it for what it is. I know several people in that district and know what I am talking about.
Funny 7:30. you really do have a selective reading disability. If you notice there have been a lot of attacks on Barrett on this and the other thread for something his grandson did. Those attacks were more than likely from another candidate. Maybe one that has a relative who has access to sealed files.
Its time to do the decent thing and drop the postings against something a juvenile did years ago. (Funny, no mention has been made of the other kid involved - prominent family perhaps?)
Charges should be brought against the person who made the original posting of this incident since it only came from sealed records since the kids were underage. Now thats where the concentration should be. City Police Dept. should be starting the inquiry so to who is infiltrating records and making them public, against the law I might add.
Again, let the posting against the juveniles cease.
Aside from ignoring the obvious lack of legality in making sealed-juvenile records public, the posters seem to be ignoring another important fact. I'm sure that most of us, as parents, try our best to teach our children the difference between right and wrong. Sometimes it sticks, sometimes it doesn't. It's what happens after they ignore their raising that matters the most. I think Allen did the right thing when he found out what was going on. I admire him for that and only hope I can show the same fortitude if ever faced with a similar situation. Enough already.
Ray
Was there a juvenile record? All I know is that the thief bragged about it. And Allen did the right thing? Really? So he reported it?
Of course there was a juvenile record. His grandson received probation; that would not have happened without lawful action being taken and a record being created. The equipment showed up missing one day and was returned the next, and the grandson joined the military. If, as you claim, the thief bragged about it,do you really think Allen had nothing to do with the outcome? Try putting your personal feelings aside and using your common sense.
Ray
Charges should be brought against the person who made the original posting of this incident since it only came from sealed records since the kids were underage. I hope WAB sue them.
Every band parent knew of this theft. Is he going to sue all of us?
I doubt, considering the timeline, that every parent knew of this until after. Oh how smart you must feel to be knowledgeable about something after the fact.
Lol. Was I supposed to know of it before it happened? I guess you are right, now that would have made me feel smart. You people kill me with your logic
My point, dumbass,was that you nor any other parent was aware that anything was missing until it was returned. You expect Barrett to know everything that goes on at his house. Why didn't you know what was going on at yours? Did I type slow enough for you that time? Should I get my construction paper and crayons and post it like that? I'm here for you. Whatever it takes to help you understand, that's what I'll do. Go on to bed now; you wouldn't want to sleep through your Captain Crunch, Fruit Loops or Lucky Charms this morning.
If Barrett is as hated as some claim don't you think if he had done something wrong that they would have thrown the book at him. Was he charged with anything, Apparently No. Was he actually accused of anything, apparently no. Did he do anything wrong in this matter, apparently no.
If he was charged or accused by those authorities who hate him my guess is he did nothing wrong. so drop the slander.
The dumbass who wrote that attacks have started against every candidate in the 7th district but Barrett is nothing short of a fool since they are leading the charge against Barrett with lies and slanderous gossip they are making up. What a fine self described christian gentlemen some folks are in their condemnation of right things and embracing of wrong things. It takes a devil to do such things not a real Christian.
4:39 I challenge you to go out there and take a poll as to who the most despised individual in Giles County might be. Just ask people the question and don't prompt them by giving possible choices. You might be surprised at the results. My bet is that this would be one election Allen Barrett would win besides that farce in May that cost taxpayers over twenty thousand dollars.
My poll was, CG, won by several votes.
What people would say is, "that nut that approves of everything Mrs. Vanzant does."
I got the same answer 8:41. I asked people at Hardees, McDonalds and Northfork or Miss Emily's or whatever the name is. There were a couple that I'm pretty sure knew his real identity. The one's that didn't all described him as "that fool on the blog that said Barrett told a lie on him" or "Vanzant's champion." The common thread, though, was that everyone I talked to believed him to be a hypocritical fool.
Same results I got 9:54, folks at Mickey D's name obama and cg as the worst people in the country.
8:41/9:54
right. I'm sure you and your buddy got that result. You know better than that.
3:05 Truth hurts don't it?
I take a poll every 4 years. Last two said Barrett was a loser. And the results were not close at all.
I think I will take another one in August. I will let you all know how it comes out.
You know better than that.
Thursday, July 03, 2014 3:05:00 PM
Now that's a good laugh.
My poll was Barrett and CG tied.
The most despicable and despised man in Giles County is...
I think honest people know that answer, and so does he.
4:36
How do I know your poll is inaccurate? Here's why. CG opposes the actions of a VERY SMALL faction of disgruntled people and is not running around the community causing trouble and hurting others. He is not at meetings causing problems, suing people, calling names, and the like. In fact, he is not well known at all outside this blog, and I know for an absolute fact that most people do not read this mess. So I must conclude that you took your poll from those who favor the status quo of this blog. That would be totally inaccurate. And I am and remain...
CG
So strange CG thinks so much of himself, he/she can't believe anyone don't like him unless it friends of Barrett.
The people I talk to or like me, "heard of Barrett, don't know him."
Barrett is keeping a close eye on Mrs. Vanzant and buddies and Cg just can't stand that.
I've heard a lot say they don't like some things Barrett post but never care for CG's post. They say "He never says anything unless it's against Barrett. How can you believe someone like that?"
I talked to several people some said they didn't like some of the things Barrett puts. On the blog but they all admitted they read the blog to know what's going on
9:47
And you are totally delusional.
9:47 Why don't you ask Mr. Barrett for the REAL reason why he can't stand Mrs. Vanzant and Mrs. Coleman? I doubt that he would tell you, but why not give it a shot?
There you go hinting at something and not telling what it is. Aren't you glad WAB has a blog where you can vent against him?
More and more effort to take the focus off the topic of fraud and thief. This is a clear case of fraud and some people don't want to acknowledge it. For the past four years I have been a commissioner and am fed up that's why I'm not running again. I have watched many times where people came in late or left early and were paid for the full meeting, this is not the first time someone was paid that didn't show up at all.
People seem to forget that two years ago the state auditors identified a huge violation where Barry Whitt was paid several thousand dollars twice for the very same job. They used federal funds to pay for activities that when combined with the regular hours of the employee would have meant he worked over a hundred hours each week for over six months. He was caught because of the excessive hours and and the mix of federal money and county money to pay for the same thing. The County Executive tried to say it was for over time but the state made it clear that salaried employees could not be paid overtime. Her solution was to simply demand the commissioners increase his salary to almost double. Now Terry Harwell is being paid twice for the same hours by the county, the auditors will never catch him because it's only a few hours and it doesn't show up as an individual payout.
When Loretta Garner was the director under direct control of Janet there was a lot of money that went missing that one even made the paper once but the other two times were just ignored.
Thousands of dollars of equipment disappeared from the Emergence Management Office and even though they knew who stole it they refused to prosecute because he was a friend. I won't even go into the scandal with the insurance that got Roger Reedy and Wendell Wilburn a tongue lashing from Janet.
8:01
Ask him.
8:24 Good riddance! Enjoy your retirement.
Now, if you want to accuse Mrs. Vanzant of fraud, why don't you press charges, go to the police, or whatever you feel necessary? I think Mrs. Vanzant should sue Allen Barrett over this or at least write a letter to the editor about his accusations.
Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.
You want hear an explanation from Vanzant she knows she is caught and there is no way out.
10:02 So will we be hearing an "explanation" from you? If you have something press charges and be bold. Now's your chance to step up.
You guys have been doing your best to ruin Mrs. Vanzant for a long time now, and that's not likely to change, is it?
Friday, July 04, 2014 9:30:00 AM
You hint at something but don't have the balls to tell what it is.
I hope Barrett sues you for that.
Sounds like slander.
Emergency Management equipment is now missing as well. Wow.
Did anyone check at Barrett's place?
9:03 How on earth could Barrett sue me for saying he made accusations against Mrs. Vanzant? Are you nuts? Scroll to the thread topic for this thread and read them for yourself.
11:33 Yes let's change it the way you want it.
Could WAB not sue someone for starting rumors about him, same as Mrs. V could sue WAB for starting a rumor about her. At least WAB stated what his rumor if it was a rumor was. You hint something is going on and want tell what. Make a stupid remark like, "ask Barrett."
Do you really think if you don't say what WAB did wrong he can't sue you?
7:28 Nobody was starting any rumor. Ask Mr. Barrett for the real reasons why he despises Mrs. Vanzant and Mrs. Coleman.
8:08 I really don't care why he despises Mrs. Vanzant and Mrs. Coleman or why you despise Mr. Barrett.
Come to think of it Barrett has told things they did wrong, so a good reason to despise them.
I can tell you why I dislike both Vanzant and Coleman they are both liars and deceivers who have stolen from the people.
3:51 So we all know there's the concerted effort by the malcontents to get Mrs. Vanzant out. Isn't that why this same little group went out and recruited yet another opponent for her...one who is hardly known I might add? Can you deny that?
Now, I'm wondering if you guys think Mrs. Coleman is the weakest of Barrett's opponents. Isn't that why she's the one who is bearing most of the attacks right now? I hate to be so blunt, but I know how you people plot and scheme. It's just sad.
9:53
Yawn.
So the malcontent went out and recruited someone to run against
Mrs. Vanzant and Mrs. Vanzant's buddies went out and recruited another person to run so the people unhappy with Mrs. Vanzant would split their vote letting Mrs. Vanzant win again.
Isn't that politics?
Children do play games and that is what is going on in this blog. Adults can't grow up. How sad.
Coleman and Vanzant have about the same qualifications NONE. Even after twelve years in office she is no more qualified based on her record than she was when she ran while living in Lincoln County.
Coleman is a liar, a thief and incompentent she can't handle her own money how can she handle other people's money.
It's a sad thing when people choose openly incompentent dishonest people like obama, Vanzant Coleman and Harwell all democrats. Hell, there's even one person running married to the head democrat in the county and don't even use their name because it's associated with democrats. Folks the democrat party ain't the democrat party of your grandparents and parents.
I find it strange how Cg likes to tell mover and over who he is going to vote for. I thought people's vote was a private thing or at least mine is to me. One time CG posted he lived out in the country. I wonder how he gets to vote for a 7th District Commissioner when he lives out in the country.
I feel sorry for Ms. Golsby, I think she was recruited because they thought there might be a weak link in one of the commissioners and Barrett would get elected. She don't realize what she is getting into. I hope Mr. Barrett don't get elected. I think he can do more good on the outside. There are regulations you don't know about before you get elected you have to follow.
8:06
Yes to your first statement. That's what they did.ajuchst West
No to your second statement.
Go Janet !!!
Yes Janet GOOOOOOO and take some of your criminal pals with you.
Wish she had stayed in Lincoln County.
12:42 Why don't YOU move to Lincoln County? We will surely miss you.
12:42 Is Vanzant's house for sale over there?
I rather see CG move away as Mrs. Vanzant.
9:32
Well, here you are again spewing your childishness. it's just sad.
9:40 Isn't this a free speech blog? When did it get to be yours?
9:32 I think you have a good idea. I believe Giles Counmty would be a better place if the childish CG moved away.
Let's get serious. How many of you are going to perpetuate the status quo and vote Democrat this August and November?
As for county elections, I will vote for the person, Democrat or Republican. Partisan politics has no place in small town county government, and that's why the so-called Republican Primary that cost $25,000 in taxpayer dollars was wrong. I hope people remember that when they vote.
And, from what I have seen of some of these local Republicans, I wouldn't vote for any of them. Again, partisan politics has no place in county government. The proof of that is in how some of these people have misbehaved.
Every major slum in this country was once a thriving community until democrats took control of that community.
Every slum is controlled by democrats.
5:53 You say you want vote for any of the Republicians in this county because of the way they behaved. I didn't know Terry Harwell was a Republician. He misbehaved at the chili coof-off. Don't you support him? What is that old saying, "what's fair for the goose is fair for the gander."
Oh yes you think Harwell was attasked, maybe the Republicans you dislike felt they were being attacked. They sure have been on this blog by you.
8:25
Thank God it's still my right to support and vote for whomever I please. It's unfortunate that the misbehavior of a small group of Republicans can cast a very negative light on the entire local party. Surely, you and I could agree on that.
10:18 Why hoild we agree on that. We can't agree that Terry Harwell misbehaved at the chili cook off a few years ago. But it did loose his wife the votes to be mayor.
They may remember that in his election.
We do agree on Mr. Barrett want be elected, not because of the same reasons.
I think if you have a barrell o apples and two or three are bad youdon't thow the whole barrell out, just the bad ones. If you was the kind of person you claim you wouldn't vote for the Republician that misbehaved if they are running, but not cause you not to vote for the man/woman rnning for president because of a childish reason.
Terry Harwell is not only a democrat but a leader in the local democrat party. He's just too cowardly to identify with obama, Vanzant and that bunch of incompetent bullies..
Partisan politics has no place in small town government. My support goes to Mr. Harwell, Mrs. Goolsby, and Mrs. Coleman. this war you guys started on them needs to stop. But I shouldn't be telling you that, because people notice and will send your candidate down in flames of defeat once again. Wait and see.
You're right 12:43 there is no room for partisan politics in a small town unless of course you are whining about a primary and trying to connect it to certain candidates. You certainly don't have room for partisan politics in a small town when the democrats have screwed up the nation and the county.You certainly don't want partisan politics to have a place when there is only room for nepotism. Certainly we would never want partisan politics to interfere with the corruption now prevalent in the County Executives office.
It's not partisan politics nor is it war to point out the failures, inconsistencies and plain misconduct of those who have a record in office.
The truth is what it is and for me I simply tell the truth without regard for the consequences and if people don't want to vote for me because of that then so be it, my integrity and relationship with God and my self is far more important to me than being a commissioner or anything else.
Mr. Barrett.
But you judge my relationship with that same God. Who do you think you are?
Why are you attacks centered on the things you see as wrong ONLY in 7th District? Never mind; I already know the answer.
Are you stupid or just to dumb to understand words? No one has judged your relationship with God only your questionable behavior that is in opposition to God's Word. I have been a regular reader of the blog for several years and if you think Mr. Barrett has only focused on problems in the 7th District you are completely blinded by your hate for him. He has taken on the city, the water department, the PES, the school system, the county mayor, other commissioners, the Hunter Smith absurdity, the property tax increase, county wide zoning, the Financial management and Charter. I know Lisa White and she wasn't in the 7th district. Either you are just full of yourself or to stupid to know how stupid you are or maybe you're both.
4:26
Please allow me to clear up your misunderstanding about this issue. Allen Barrett has in fact questioned my relationship with God by accusing me of being one who would willfully go along with wrongdoings.
You mentioned questionable behavior. Well, take a look at his. He claims a relationship with God just as I do. I certainly question his, based on the way he treats his fellow man...that is, any who would disagree with him.
No, I believe the record shows that Allen Barrett has attacked and criticized his opponents who just happen to be in the district for which he is running for commissioner. And you can't see that and yet want to call me stupid?
5:17,
Can you go one day without posting just to attack Barrett? It is my opinion everyone refers to you as an enabler and questions your actions as Christianly because of what you write. You state you are not an enabler but within the same thought ignore facts and state some opinion to justify your enabling and get mad and name call when actual proof is posted. You twist everyone's post into a way to attack Barrett. I believe you to be an enabler and more than likely a family member or an elected official that Barrett has posted proof of what you have done wrong.
My opinion is based on your posts(attacks without merit) and nothing Barrett has stated in any opinion of you he has presented. You have posted some opinions of yours as facts that I know to be a lie because I actually witnessed the actions of the ones you defend.
Maybe it's only the commissioners in 7th District that take money they don't earn, claim to be responsible with our money but take bankruptcy because they can't manage their own finances, that think the answer to every question is more taxes that attack private citizens then dare them to do something because they are commissioners, that take money twice for the same hours, that call people faggots because they can get away with it, that make false reports to police,
I hope Barrett wins the election he's the only one that has proven to be trustworthy in the 7th district. I hope he keeps turning up the heat on those who steal from my family.
By the way is Vanzant from the 7th district because she seems to get most of the criticism.
You're wasting your time, 6:49. The enabler only comments on issues that he thinks backs up his position. He was asked on another thread, not once but twice, about such things as the HS building, hospital fund, etc. and chose to ignore them, all the while saying he was not ignoring them. If y'all haven't figured out by now, he has serious mental issues. Should he decide to start telling the truth at this late date, I fear no one would believe him. I can only imagine the shame his family must live with.
6:14/6:49
No, it seems there's not a single day that goes by that either you or the other disciple of Barrett's is on here attacking either me, one of his 7th District opponents, or Mrs. Vanzant. I simply respond defensively with an opposing view. And it's that opposing view that you guys just can't seem to stand. And, ONCE AGAIN, just because my views differ from yours does not mean that I enable wrong. That is a vindictive lie. By the way, I have no family members that I am aware of who are in county government.
You hope Barrett wins the election. We do not need him. And as for Mrs. Vanzant's receiving a lot of criticism here on this blog, just who do you think has been primarily behind that? I will give you only one guess. Have you ever wondered why there's so much jealousy and resentment toward her? Probably not.
And who said Giles Countians were not intelligent:
2010 results COUNTY COMMISSIONER DISTRICT 7
Terry W. Harwell - 477
T.A. (Tommy) Campbell – 448
Vicki Coleman – 423
(WAB) William Allen Barrett – 254
Not even close.
Barrett loves to judge others' relationship with God. At my church, we all remember his post calling the Church of Christ an arrogant denomination.
I can assure you EVERYONE at my church will remember that statement when we vote in August.
Thursday 3:02 You can either show proof that I made a judgement on your relationship with God or admit that you are a low down liar. I have never made a judgement about your relationship with God, I certainly have stated that because you have a relationship with God that does not prevent you from being a willful enabler of wrongdoing as I have shown numerous examples of your enabling. You were the one who brought God in by stating several times that "That because I am a Christian I can not be an enabler of wrong doing". Well, far greater men than you with a more highly esteemed position in churches have committed some incredible heinous crimes against God and man. As most Christians know because one is a Christian does not make them incapable of doing wrong or enabling those who do wrong. Is it wrong to smoke? If you raise tobacco does that not make you an enabler of those who use tobacco. If you give your child money knowing they will buy cigarettes then you are an enabler of their smoking. What you know is wrong but either ignore or refuse to condemn you enable. Your unwillingness to look at the evidence of the sign in sheet where a commissioner was paid for a meeting they did not attend and condemn that action makes you an enabler of that wrong behavior.
I know nothing of your relationship with God only what you have stated but I do know that neither you nor anyone else is rendered incapable of committing wrongdoing or enabling wrongdoing as you claim. To know the truth and embrace a lie makes one a devils disciple.
To 9:31 I have no problem with your opinion, it's your support of illegal activities that I'm concerned with. You consistently ignore the evidences and facts in favor of personalities. Not once have you offered any substantial proof that I have lied or been wrong about the charges I have brought against those who act outside the law, yet you continue to support those actions against the people of this county. There is no doubt that you live in denial the only question is just how dangerous is your delusion.
To Thursday 10:49
Please show me anywhere or anything where I stated that the "Church of Christ" was an arrogant denomination. You are as adept at twisting words as the CG. What I stated and I'm sure you are well aware of is that the huge article that was placed in the newspaper condemning everyone, including other Church of Christ members, who were not members of East Hill Church of Christ. Boy, you talk about judging that was a cake taker. I had more members of Church of Christ families some members at East Hill who apologized for that ad and plainly stated they had nothing to do with it and did not feel the way it was described. I am a member of a Baptist Church of Christ just as many people are members of a Methodist Church of Christ or a Vine Street Church of Christ, or Main street Church of Christ. The key is that a Church that belongs to Christ is His and if if does not belong to Him it isn't His Bride anyway.
Mr. Bar2rett....
Your idea of what a Christian will do and not do greatly differs from mine. Of course we live by grace, and thank God for that. But that grace doesn't give the Christian license to willfully engage in sin. So stop lying that I would do that. Your problem with me is and has always been that I oppose the way you treat people who do not share your views. I think that is arrogance gone to seed. Have you ever heard of the word, tolerance? It's in the dictionary if you want to read up on it. And I can't speak for what others in esteemed positions within the church may or may not do. I speak for myself. And who said that a Christian can't sin? It wasn't me. We all sin and fall short of the glory of God...even you. Imagine that. Once again, to call me a willful enabler of wrong is a lie. I might add that it's a low-down lie that YOU told and keep telling. And it's accurate to say that you know NOTHING of my relationship with God.
I didn't write 10:49, but I would like to ask you a question. Do you have a problem with East Hill Church of Christ? Does it stem from your dealing with a minister there over a radio program sometime ago? Just asking.
10:30 You sir are the one who stated that "because I am a Christian I can not willfully go along with wrongdoing". There was an entire discussion of this statement to which you backtracked with giant steps and denied that was what you meant. Nevertheless you have continued to state rather empathetically that you can not be an enabler of wrong doing because you are a Christian. The problem is that your behavior shows not only that you are an enabler of wrongdoing but that you willfully embrace wrongdoing by certain individuals by turning a blind eye to their misconduct and the evidences that prove that misconduct.
No I have no problem with East Hill Church of Christ or any other Church family. I have a number of good friends who are members there. My problem as I stated at the time was solely with the huge advertisement that was placed in the newspaper over their name.
Now when you can show me anything in the Bible that condemns anyone for not belonging to a group simply based on the name they call themselves I will be more than glad to apologize. Until then I will continue to hold the firm belief that those who belong to God through the acceptance of His Son Jesus the Christ are saved by His Grace.
Your attempt to let your personal hatred toward me turn an entire congregation against me is even more despicable than your usual gossip and lies.
cg, do you not think jimmy swaggart knew it was wrong to be with that New Orleans prostitute? I'm sure he did. He was a Christian who WILLFULLY went along with wrong doing. Don't say a Christian would not knowingly do something like that because you would once again be lying. Being a Christian is no guarantee that you won't do something you know is wrong. To use that as a defense is absolutely ludicrous.
Mr. Barrett...
I only referred to myself as a Christian because YOU demanded "proof" that I do not willfully go along with wrongdoings. And I don't, regardless of what you have to say about it. That should have been proof enough, but you wouldn't accept it and continue to lie and say that I am an enabler. You therefore judge my relationship with God, and I do not appreciate it. I suppose some might say it's no big deal since my posts are anonymous, as allowed by you, but there's a larger principle involved. You shouldn't falsely accuse anyone, anonymous or not, and not expect a challenge. If you and your buddy will stop the lie, I will not bring it up. In fact, the only time I ever do is when you or your supporter makes it an issue. but we both know you and the other one are not going to stop, right?
12:10,
If you commit the act then you willfully do the act. Quit beating a dead horse. Your statements show you to be an enabler. And the lies, insinuations, and attacks you post are not representative of a Christian. You have been proven over and over to be a liar.
12:22
That's your opinion, and thank God, it's not the one that matters. I only defend myself against a lie, and that's not beating a dead horse. When Mr. Barrett and his follower stop it, so will I.
If the shoe fits then wear it and brother the shoe of an enabler sure as hell fits you.
2:17 Sorry, but enabler is a term and a lie Allen Barrett told. You are the one who is enabling and promoting his lie.
Hey Skippy, I didn't call my denomination arrogant. You did
No matter how many examples are given, cg is going to see himself far and above other "Christians." It's in his nature and I really don't think he can help it.
10:29 That's a lie. I have never placed myself above anyone, let alone other Christian people. In fact, you know very well that I have said on more than one occasion here that I, like you and everybody else, am a sinner who needs God's grace every day of my life. So please stop lying. Ok?
The chief liar demands others to "stop lying", what a laugh. The sicko needs help.
Hold on Hoss. I think he was speaking the truth then
Up to a point 1:01. He admitted to sinning buy not doing so willfully. Swaggart did so cg is putting himself above another Christian. He says he isn't so he is either lying about that or lying about enabling. Either way, he is lying.
naw. I don't see it that way
"Huge Ad Shows Arrogance Of One Denomination" W A Barrett
Come on Skippy if you are going to lie about what you have said, at least take the time to delete the posts you are going to lie about.
Its not that hard.
Most trolls don't, troll. Aren't you going to give one of your infamous yawns? That's about the only comment you have that suits you.
10:01 I have been a member of the Church of Christ all my life over fifty seven years, I was embarrassed and infuriated by that ad and I am one of the people who called Mr. Barrett and agreed with him.
You failed to show the whole truth of what Mr. Barrett said and if you had bothered, or had been interested in the truth you would have included this statement from Mr. Barrett's comment,
"The ad was identified as having been placed by the churches of Christ and it is to those who posted the ad that I address my comments."
There has been a arrogance of exclusivity from the leadership at East Hill for a long time and it's not just other denominations that are condemned but also other Churches of Christ.
Another thing that Mr. Barrett stated in that post was "Worship as you choose but don’t condemn everyone who doesn’t see eye to eye with you, if they are wrong let God take care of it until then isn’t there enough problems tending to our own business to be so involved with other people’s business?" That's good advice regardless of who gives it.
lol...nice try Allen.
What does the Church of Christ have to do with Vanzant and Coleman stealing taxpayer money?
There was a Church of Christ involved in the tent meeting. I think everyone should get together and try to bring this country back to God and not condem any church.
I belong to the Curch of Christ, I went to he tent meeting and saw nothig I hadb't seen in Church of Christ servieces. I understood the Baptist Church was in on this meeting. I never knew if the person reaing the same Bible I always read, or praying or leading songs any different from what I have always heard. I have visited East Hill Church and they read the same Bible, pray and lead same songs. I on't know who posted the add in the paper, but I think they were wrong. They should of gone to the tent meeting and tried to get others to God not turn them away.
A lot of people are going to be surprise when they get to heaven and see a Babtist preacher or member there. Some maybe surprise when they find they aren't in heaven.
Let's leave the judging to God.
exactly! and not to Barrett
4:49 I've been wondering that. How about asking the one posted Saturday, July 12, 2014 10:01:00 AM.
5:00 That's right not to Barrett or CG.
Am I the only one here who has ever heard a preacher called a knucklehead on WKSR years ago? This happened and I am not the only one who heard it. Anybody recall who did the name-calling?
9:48 That's such old news and has been chewed by you several time over. I remember that statement in fact I still have the transcript. I called a particular preacher and anyone else that it applied to a "knucklehead" on the radio after I had said the same thing to him face to face.
Many years ago I did a fifteen minute radio program on Sunday morning. I had always had a very good relationship with the previous pastor at the church as we would exchange greetings and small talk between programs. This pastor moved away and the new pastor came to replace him. Several Sundays in a row his message was directed at my program of the previous week. More than once he not only attacked what I had said but also
what he considered the ungodliness of a different church of Christ in town.
On the particular morning that I called the preacher a "knucklehead" he had just finished telling people over the radio that there was, "just no way for a person to go to Heaven unless they were fully submersed in water baptism and a member of the church of Christ" He went on to define the church of Christ as being one where there was no instrumental music, no non member taking communion, etc and that the only real church was the one he preached at.
When he emerged from the studio I stated that was the most arrogantly wrong thing I had ever heard from a minister. He basically stated that it was only the truth, to which I said something to the effect that no, it was a stupid knuckle headed thing to claim.
He left and I entered the studio for my program.
During that program I addressed the issues he had raised. First by stating that, "I agree that a person should be baptized by submersion and be a member of the church that belongs to Christ but according to the Bible a person goes to be with the Lord based on what God has done for us through His Son Jesus the Christ and our acceptance of Him as Lord and Savior not by how wet we get during baptism or what's over the door of the church we attend and that anyone who says different is a knucklehead at best and a liar at worse".
I continue to stand by the statement and would repeat it to anyone who pushes a person away from Christ through the pure arrogance and judgmental attitude of the Pharisees. The Bible is very clear about the process for salvation and anyone who tries to alter that with different requirements is not only a "knucklehead" but are calling God a liar.
To 3:35 I did not post the 1:49 comment but agree with it and did make the quoted statements in an earlier topic.
Now we know what church the whinning baby goes to.
I'm shocked that this preacher would think the things WB does is alright with God. Don't believe he does.
So cg thinks it's ok to reveal the truth about something Allen did but the same standards don't apply to his friends in office. Isn't that the very definition of hypocrisy? He either has very small feet or a very large mouth for one to keep fitting into the other.
10:16 You hit the nail on the head!
Yawn
maybe 7:09 will wake up when they are hit with an extra 75 dollars next year when they register their car.
No 8:29, it will just vote with the other 7th district commissioners to raise the fees commissioners get for attending committee meetings to $75.
That's 7:09's version of "whatever" when he can't think of anything relevant to say.
No. I think she was just bored hearing the same old bickering back and forth with nothing constructive being said.
Have to be honest, it sort of puts me to sleep too.
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