Congratulations to New Commissioner Mrs Oaklene Walls
At the Commission meeting this morning attended by twenty of the current commissioners
Mrs Oaklene Walls was elected to fill the vacant 3rd district seat of former commissioner Billy Beets by a vote of thirteen to six. Former commissioner from that district Chris Morris received the six votes. Allen Barrett
Mrs Oaklene Walls was elected to fill the vacant 3rd district seat of former commissioner Billy Beets by a vote of thirteen to six. Former commissioner from that district Chris Morris received the six votes. Allen Barrett
posted by Allen Barrett | 9:39 AM
105 Comments:
Things are achangin'. Will be slow but we all have to club together and make it happen. Good job Ms Walls.
Okaqlene is a trouble maker and a pot stirrer!!! Worked with her at Highway Department. She couldn't get along with anyone. Yeah things are changing alright....the county is going to the "female dogs"!!!
I resent your verbage "female dogs". With language like that which is very offensive to all women, you come over as the pot stirrer. Are you perhaps the loser? Let's give the woman a chance. And then, even if she is a "pot stirrer" she wouldn't be any different than a bunch already on the commission.
Another convenient negative post. Way to go!
6:45 Which post are you referring to?
Excuse me, I meant to say another negative thread.
How do you get a negative thread out of this? It was only reported what happened at the meeting. Only you seem to be the one that makes it a negative thread!
No, it IS a negative thread. Just look at the posts. Tell me what's positive about accusing someone of being a troublemaker and pot stirrer? What about the reference to a female dog? And can you not see the direction this thread headed toward? It will eventually evolve into more criticisms of select commissioners and most likely Mrs. Vanzant and Mr. Jackson. I don't see too much positive about that. Do you?
It's not Mr. Barret who makes them negative it's the posters-so get off your high horse if you don't like what is written here don't read it! No everything is not true but you can get just enough truth to know what kind of shape Giles County is really in. When my property tax goes up $400.00 in 4 years and nothing has been changed on my property something is up and it ain't good.
7:11 A very good point about your property tax increase. Its the endless spending that does it. Maybe Ms Walls can contribute to getting some cuts done in county government and our taxes will become more in line with the local economy. Unfortunately, Ms Vanzant has to be mentioned since she has been county exec for almost 8 years and these outlandish taxes and spending in the county had been under her watch (or lack of watch). We now have an insurance committee who is looking into savings in county insurances. This was the responsibility of Ms Vanzant but nothing was ever done. For these reasons we badly need a replacement for her.
To the anonymous Tuesday 6:45 PM, 7:41 PM and Wednesday 6:41 AM poster. Does it seem as strange to you as it does to me that you have time to post a complaint about "another negative thread" but you didn't have time to post anything positive about the Emergency Workers in the thread directly above this one?
Once again you prove yourself more a part of the problem than part of the solution. Your first post on this thread was several hours after the thread about the Emergency Workers was posted so there was plenty time for you to have started some very positive comments about the Emergency Workers, why didn't you? Could it be that in your warped desire to cast aspersions on me and posters to this blog you simply could not take the time required to say something as simple as "Thank You" to those workers?
So my fine feathered critic, I believe you are revealed as the slimy hypocrite you have worked so hard to be. Allen Barrett
Unbelievable. Seems to be that this stagnent pot needs to be stirred. only way anything can ever possibly change and from all I"ve seen go on of late~ if we contuniue to put up with it~we deserve the junk in the pot~ Go Com Oakalene ~stirr away!
yeah~I realize the next post will be some remark about spelling~yes I know~I typo'd get over it.
sorry Mrs Oklene for the typo~
Lord help us all! There may be some "female dogs". But the MALE DOGS haven't done such a great job. Unless you call keeping their noses stuck to some leaders hinny for favors........well, never mind. So maybe we need to try some female dogs.
7:11
That's exactly what I said. God back and read the part where I said just look at the posts. After you do that, ask yourself who needs to get down of his or her high horse.
To wab...
No, it doesn't seem strange at all to me that I referred to this as a negative thread (look at the posts) and didn't make reference to the workers who did such a fine job with the recent tragedy. I just happen to think the family of the victims have been through enough, so I decided not to expand upon it. Everybody knows these brave men and women do a fabulopus and often thankless job for our wonderful community. So you didn't have to suggest something that wasn't there. Once again, you assumed something that was not the case. These people have my utmost respect.
You know, it really doesn't look very becoming of a man in your position to be out there calling people slimy hypocrites.
When the shoe fits wear it 4:21.
What possible legitimate statement of praise offered to these workers could in the smallest way cause any additional distress to the families of the victims.
While "Everybody knows these brave men and women do a fabulopus and often thankless job for our wonderful community", does it not still mean something special to a person when they are told you appreciate them and their efforts. How does "everyone know" if they are never told? Does a spouse not appreciate a little praise now and then and even to be told they are love not just left to know it.
Your lame explanation only reveals more bull headedness and self centeredness. The old adage when you find yourself in a hole stop digging seems most appropriate for your attitude and explanation. Allen Barrett
wab..
I have a twist on that one for you. If the shoe fits, try not wear it anymore. You once again misunderstood what I meant in the above post. What I was attempting to say is that I didn't want to be part of a discusssion on the tragedy. As I said, everyone knows that the workers do a fantastic job, and of course they have my total respect.
I was concerned that this thread would generate into a discussion of this tragedy. And that would be shameful. I really don't understand why you felt the need to mention it anyhow in view of the circumstances.
How about 6:09 I mentioned it because your statement was so absurd and your latest explanation is just as absurd. Allen Barrett
To October 28th, 1:07 P.M.:
Favors !!! Could you possibly be referring to Mr. Lovell having Barry Hyatt pave a road up in the north end of the County so a guy that lives on that road would give a $4,000.00 donation for the new ambulance building up at Lynnville. I guess you could call that a favor to the guy that gave the donation, but I call it Political corruptness!!! That's illegal! Wonder if the South end of the County got any of their roads paved when they were working so hard and having fund raisers for their Building for the Ambulance Station. No, they all worked very hard to scrap up every penny they could get for their building. Shame on you Mr. Lovell and Mr. Hyatt. And also Mrs. Vanzant. She had to also know about this deal.
wab...
You would make a great democrat. You just love to spin things to your liking. But you are dead WRONG with your ridiculous "making a mountain out of a mole hill" mentality about my supposedly not being appreciative of those workers. And you are even more off base with your erroneous assumptions as to why I did not want to comment on the tragedy that just occurred. I hope I have ONCE AGAIN cleared up some of your misunderstandings. Talk about straining at a gnat and swallowing the camel!
I must have missed something, aren't we under the topic of Mrs. Walls replacing Billy Beets as third district commissioner?
That's the way she operates. Anything to get off the subject.
WAB How can we find out more about Lovell and Barry Hyatt getting this $4,000 donation for the north end ambulance building then paving the road for the donor? Makes sense that this could have happened since Lovell is chairman of the highway dept. and has made sure the ambulance got put in in the north end.
The deal with an ambulance on the north end has been a done deal for a long time. I don't know anything about a $4,000.00 donation or the paving situation. I do know a $10,000.00 gift was announced at the Commission meeting Tuesday for the ambulance service.
They will be having a highway committee meeting next month you might like to attend. Allen Barrett
I have known Okalene for a long time. She has always had problems getting along with people. She is very opinionated and controlling, even to the point of writing her own son and grandchildren out of her life because they were living their own life and not obeying her rules. She doesn't even have a relationship with her own brothers and sisters. She will not be good for this job...you have to be able to listen to all sides and then make a decision...it will be her way or nothing. She will bad-mouth anybody who doesn't see it her way and not work toward what is best for the county and the citizens. Time will tell...and I know with time you will agree.
You sound as if you may have been eating some sour grapes. Instead of trying to smear her name, why don't you just try sitting down and talking to her. You may find out she speaks her mind but that doesn't make her a bad person. At least she'll tell you the truth, you may not like it but it'll be the truth. Something that our County Executive can't do. I've also known Mrs. Oakleen a long time and she has always treated me and my family with respect. What more can you ask of a person. And as far as her family goes, I don't know many familiies that don't have problems and end up mad at each other. That's life and you just have to deal with it.
I have no clue who Miss Walls is, but I will say this. She ran for the office. She may do well, she may not. However, I think she deserves the chance to prove herself. I have to admit, this should have been a positive thread, it started out that way from Mr. Barrett, but as usual the naysayers had to ruin it. Please let people feel good about things for once.
This thread has nothing to do with the tragedy. As far as discussing it, that is how people deal with problems. This thread however has nothing to do with that, it has to do with Miss Walls. Please stay on task.
I thought smearing people's names was what this blog was really all about?
To 6:41, If all that is true then why was she havig lunch with her two sisters yesterday at Country Kitchen? She as eating with Mildred Britton and Betty Strickland yesterday. Some time I think this blog is the only way for some people to vent anger.
Mary
Why is it that the same one always starts complaing about everybody else on this site? If you think you can do such a better job than anyone else then why don't you run next election or just keep your thoughts to your self?! And I am glad their is a place for us to post our gratefulness for our county's recent tradegy. I was a senior at Richland in 95 and we didn't talk about what happened then and for the ones of us who saw what we saw we needed someone or somewhere to talk about how we felt. It just wasn't talked about. Some of us still deal with what we saw that day. Thanks WAB for the post you do.
Poor Chris Morris. All of those brigdes he burned has come back to bite him!
Heard that it's Chris Morris that's working to get Scott Stewart to run for County Ex.
Ask Okalene about her personal agenda against the Highway Dept....that will let you know why she is a county commissioner...she hates Julie Phillips and Barry Hyatt. Wanted to come by to work after quitting long ago and Barry wouldn't hire her...Talk about sour grapes!!!! Julie put a quick stop to that!!!
Quitting...I hear her own brother-in-law fired her?????
If Scott Stewart decides to run for county executive it will be nothing to do with Chris Morris'. Chris Morris might work to support Scott Stewart but Scott will make his own decision. In my opinion he would make a great county executive and he gets my support.
3:42,
I don't know about him. A newspaper reporter/editor who couldn't keep up with local business news (PES for example). Makes me wonder how he could keep up with the intire county. He may fool me.
Back to Okalene...She is a real back stabber. When her brother in law Pete Britton was running for road superintendent...she asked me to vote for Ray Holt. Not what kind of person would do that to her own sister. Even if she didn't like Pete...she should have just kept her mouth shut. She use to be a friend of mine..I lost all respect for her that day. I also know some of the history with her son and his wife and she did disown them and her grandchildren. Now excuse me ...but as far as loyalty to the county and what is right...does this not show a great deal of thinking of your own agenda's and not what is best for all involved. It will be interesting to see what department she will go after....as one of the previous blogs said...it will probably be highway department...because she is a "wanta be" employee!!
I, for one am happy for Ms. Walls and I think that Mr. Morris' days of trying to strongarm his way into peoples lives are coming to an end, The people have spoken Mr. Morris and although you may belittle people behind their backs and post nonsense, slandering comments on this blog instead of factual comments some of us just don't care and want to do the best we can to help the people of this community. Wish you could "man up" and do the same. Goodluck Ms. Walls
12:37 What do you mean the editor didnt keep up with PES? He covered those meetings for hours and hours after working all day. I was there and saw him with my own eyes. He even videoed those meetings and had then on Giles News web. Then wrote page after page for 3 weeks about PES. Guess you dont buy the paper, huh?
Speaking of Highway Dept. Is Barry still letting Julie Phillips and Edwin Lovell tell him how to run the Highway Department? Why does Julie have to be by Barry's side at every little event or meeting? Could it be she needs to be there in case he gets a question ask to him that he can't answer? Looks like she should be at the office answering the phone since that's about all she does.
8:14 You are exactly right! Seen him with my own eyes turn to Julie Phillips for answers.
Speaking of Edwin Lovell is it true he made arrangements with Barry Hyatt for Alexander road to be paved if one of the two residents living on that road would donate $4000 to the North end ambulance fund raiser? According to Lovell in a meeting the donation was made. He failed to add the road had been paved. Imagine it costs more than $4000 to pave a road allbeit a short one with only two families living on it, but I sure would like to have the loooong through road I live on have some attention to get rid of the pot holes uneven surface, washed out road edges. Scores of families live on this road. Will somebody give me reasons why this kind of thing is happening in our county government.
There again you have Mr. Lovell and Mrs. Phillips telling Hyatt what to do. It is gonna bite him in the rear come election day. He either runs that Department himself or come election time we'll elect someone who has the knowledge and backbone to run it. It will be someone who want let a Commissioner or secretary tell him what to do. Lovell will get Hyatt in big trouble if he's not careful. Paving that road for a $4,000.00 donation is just one example.
4:23
Remember the first article he wrote apologizing for not knowing what was going on ? Then he started going to the meetings and yes he did spend alot of time writing about it. It's another case of the newspaper/editor only reporting what they want you to know. Same old same old.
Thank goodness for this blog, without it we'd not know very much of what's going on around here just like it used to be, but that's the way they've always wanted it.
12:10 Yes. I remember that note. However, dont you think part of that had to do with 1) the meeting time of 7 AM before most folks office hours begin, and 2)the way PES was being handled by the former CEO? Nobody knew what was going on except Holcolm, Speer & Hoover, not even the PES Board! They still havent changed the time to a more reasonable hour as PES promised the public they would. Many people at the PES Hearings wanted evening meetings when they could attend after work. I now understand the PES Board chairman, Jerry Bryant, did a 'survey' of the board members asking when best for them! Of course, no change from 7 AM. Fact is, they dont want people there and dont want the newspaper reports. But if you buy the paper that was issued yesterday you will find A LARGE report by Scott Stewart. Enjoy!
Finally, Barry's incapabilities are coming to light. He was only able to run for office because his wife went on line and got his GED for him. Julie Phillips is the only one that knows what is going on...why do you think he screwed over the citizens and lied to everybody to keep her there. She and especially her loud mouth husband Kyle talk about Barry behind his back all the time. They don't have a problem telling everyone that she is the only person who knows and how stupid Barry really is. Bet he is clueless to that...they have him fooled!!! Heard Kyle at at country store myself belittling Barry and Steve. Kinda disgusting!
Maybe Barry needs to wise up...in more ways than one.
Omg, now why would anyone believe an anonymous posting talking about one man talking down about another...give me a break. Wasn't this thread about a new commissioner anyway? NExt~
Barry Hyatt needs to be careful who he listens to. All that's been said is the truth and that is Lovell and Phillips are running the
Highway Dept. Lovell will probably run for Highway Superintendent next time for he's got enough experience now to get him qualified to run. OR it maybe Julie that runs. Who knows. I may just vote for Lovell since I live on a old worn out potholed road. Maybe he can pull some strings and get my road repaved.
8:50
You really didn't show a lot of intelligence with that post. I know Barry Hyatt personally, and I am certain that you are either misinformed or trying to stir up trouble. Isn't there enough "stirring" already on this blog without your throwing fuel on the flame?
As for voting, of course you should follow your conscience and vote for whomever you feel is best qualified. I wonder if that's not why Mrs. Vanzant and others keep getting elected?
Julie might not be planning to run...but I know for a fact that her loud mouth smart-aleck husband Kyle is a "Highway Superintendent Wanna-Be"!!! He thinks he knows more than anyone else..and doesn't mind saying that Barry is stupid and that he (Kyle) and Julie are running the highway department. Barry has always been a loser and very dumb. He has always had someone else calling the shots...ask Rick Hyatt how he caused him to lose Rick's father's paving business. Then Barry went in the trucking business with Steve Kelly and Kyle and they ended up taking bankrupcy. "And this is who the people elected to handle your tax dollars". What a joke. At least Lovell can handle his own money!!!! Barry can't. Maybe Okalene Walls should run for Road Supt. since she hates Barry so much!
Revealing background. Thanks
6:13 I firmly believe that you must work for the County Highway Dept or have a spouse that does. I didn't vote at all in the last Highway Superintendent Election since Mr. Hyatt was unopposed. I know "Personally" Barry Hyatt and know that he's not supervisor material. And as far as Lovell, the only reason why he made the money he's made over his lifetime is because he was injured on his factory job and his employer promoted him to a position that made fairly good money to keep him from sueing them. Lovell is not smart eitherbut I still think I'll vote for him if he'll run. I still need a favor to get my road repaved.
I would like to make a comment about Barry H. First I could meet him in the middle of the road and wouldn't know it was him if not told.
He has made some improvements on the little road I live on. A lot more could be done but I appreciate what has been done.
When you first start a job it's best to ask some of the people that had worked there what was done before.
8:06
You sound like a very bitter and spiteful person. How would you like it if someone were on this blog talking that way about you and/or your family? Think about it.
I AM 8:06...
Bitter and spiteful..how is telling the truth being bitter and spiteful. Check out the facts before you judge me...ignorance is not always best...look at the shape of the world and it's leaders...maybe more facts and truths would make us make more sound judgements on who we vote for.
3:12
Sure, there's a lot wrong with world leaders and policies, but the venom you are spewing is directed toward local officials. Just look at your post and tell me you're not a bitter person.
Local leaders make decisions that affect my life and yours..local tax rates, local budgets, budget amendments,etc. are all part of the local politics. I am not a bitter person...but I do think that sound decisions should be based on facts. And the fact is that one reason our economy and our govenment whether national or local is in the shape that it is today...is because of leadership that is not qualified or smart enough to make decisions that are good for the citizens for the long term. Sorry if you disagree...but next time your taxes go up...don't whine about it...your leaders are the cause!!! Let's elect people who can handle their own finances...before we put them in charge of Giles County finances. It doesn't take a smart person to figure that one out!!!!!
Excellent post 5:10 and right on the target. It's very hard for some folks to understand that there is a connection between absurd spending and running out of money. Politicians excel at spending other people's money then feeling justified in declaring an emergency as an excuse to raise taxes even higher. Allen Barrett
I agree with 5:10...you can't be mad because of tax increases as long as you are standing up and supporting the cause. Barry Hyatt, Stoney Jackson, Janet Vanzant, Bill Holt (and the list goes on) have all got so many personal issues and personal agendas that they are not capable of making sound decisions for the county. Then the commission votes to put Okalene Walls as a fellow dumbass with a agenda!!! Wow..priceless and scary as hell!
Is vulgar talk normally welcome on this blog? Does clean language goes by the wayside in favor of free speech.
It shouldn't but it seems that some of us do not know any better way to express ourselves.
Vulgar actions tops vulgar language anyday!
If you take exception to the two words used by the previous blogger then you sure should be offended by the action of the county officials and county commissioners whose actions are costing you tax dollars that are unjustified.
I am clueless to why you cannot understand or just aren't smart enough to comprehend what is causing the economy at state, federal, and local level to fail. It is the "Dumbass" leaders of all facets of government....and yes it is scary as "hell".
Now be sure to take offense to the "vulgur" words and not the vulgar actions of the leaders. Blindness is your virtue!!!
9:49
Yes, I would agree that you are quite clueless. But I too am clueless as to why your vulgarities are allowed on this blog. You call me a nasty name just because I don't go along with everything you say. Well, I'm sorry about that. I never fell hook, line, and sinker for the paranoid notion (opinion) that almost everyone in elected local government is a crook and a liar. You fell for it, but I didn't.
Blindness was never a virtue with me. I tend more toward kindness, empathy, compassion, forgiveness, praying for those we think wrong us, and etc.
Okalene Walls was once employed at Pulaski's Wal Mart for a duration of one business day. She ran out crying and quit because she could not handle the stress from the public. Now, County Commissioner?! Talk about biting off more than you can chew! Also, anything she targets in particular will be for her own personal vendetta and not for what is in the best interest of Giles County. Watch & see. This is a very bad idea..
5:11:
I wonder what shell you live under...the two words that were used are not vulgar....but your ignorance to what is going on around you is. The blogger never said that all elected officials are crooks and liars...apparently those are your words. The blogger said that the reason that there is so much waste and over spending in government is because we elect officials who have hidden agendas, are not educated enough to understand that what is done in government today will affect the citizens for a long time not just today, and the fact that if you put people in office who cannot manage their own money you can't really expect them to be able to make valid decisions on how to spend our tax dollars. Maybe it is not a issue for you but there are a lot of people in Giles County who because of the economic crisis are barely living pay check to pay check and they cannot afford to pay out more money to governement programs that are unnessary.
"Blindness was never a virtue with me. I tend more toward kindness, empathy, compassion, forgiveness, praying for those we think wrong us, and etc."
All of these virtues are admirable....but along with these things you need to be aware that incomptency is not only a bad virtue for the person who is imcompentent but it sure will cause the county and all of the country be in a mess...look around you....the United States is in a depression...how do you think we got here!!!! Bad, incompetent, dumb decisions made by our leaders...open your eyes. If you don't want to fight for your future...fight for your kids and grandkids.
5:41
What I SAID is that you fell hook, line, and sinker for the paranoid notion (opinion) that almost everyone in local elected government is a crook and a liar. I DID NOT say ALL elected officials. Furthermore, I never mentioned the blogmaster, did I? Apparently, those were your words and not mine.
You harp on incompetencies among (not all) our elected officials. Please share with the audience exactly who you would like to see in charge of things. I'd like to know if your list of bright and competent people coincides with the ones I think you would mention.
Please don't try to give me a political science lesson on the shape our country has gotten in. I am just as sick of the liberalism as you are. That is what got us into the toilet. Hopefully, we can get rid of obama in a few more years and salvage what he hasn't destroyed.
I really don't think anyone cares who is in office, as long as they are honest decent people that will do what is good for our city and county.
"Please don't try to give me a political science lesson on the shape our country has gotten in. I am just as sick of the liberalism as you are. That is what got us into the toilet. Hopefully, we can get rid of obama in a few more years and salvage what he hasn't destroyed."
I am not a big supporter of Obama, however, we do need to give credit where credit is due.....the economy failed under Bush and the republican party. Obama inherited the mess..do I agree with what he has done in the last year????? No, but you have to blame the Bush administration for the problem!!!
"You harp on incompetencies among (not all) our elected officials. Please share with the audience exactly who you would like to see in charge of things. I'd like to know if your list of bright and competent people coincides with the ones I think you would mention."
I would have no problem with anybody in office if the person didn't have hidden agendas and if they were in there for the betterment of the citizens. I also have a problem with uneducated people who cannot comprehend what is going on and who cannot make sound decisions for their own affairs making decisions on how my taxdollars are spent.
You act like because I am a concerned citizen who wants what is best for our county and our country... that I am a bad person....I love America, I support my soldiers, I also love my family, my children, and my grandchildren...I want for me and my generation to leave them with a better chance at life and for them not to inherit the mess that our leaders have made over the last 20 years....yes I am including Clinton and his administration. If that make me a "LIBERAL" then yes I am ...and I am very proud to be one!
So what exactly does that make you???!!!
No, The economy started heading south under none other than William jefferson blythe clinton, bad as some of you want to admit that. But George Bush got the blame, thanks to thew liberal media. As for obama, I wouldn't support him at all. I'm not even sure he's an American citizen. Are you? Speaking of agendas, how do you like his disdain for the military, abortion, big government and more taxes, socialistic policies, and on and on. What about his connection to acorn? Does that bother you a little bit that acord seems to be getting a free pass on their lawbreaking and attempts to steal an election?
I too am a concerned citizen who loves our country, fought for it, and wants what is right always. As for leaving your children and grandchildren a better place to live, I'm afraid obama will leave them with an albatross of heavy debt to pay back. Yes, I'm afraid the things you say make you a liberal. God bless America!
If I am a liberal...I guess that makes you a radical. If you were keeping up you would remember that I too said that the economy has been failing for 20 years...I believe that would include Clinton. Papa Bush was a good president...Clinton was a bad president and Baby Bush was a disaster, Obama so far is right there with Baby Bush. All I can do is pray that something will happen to change things for the American citizens. We have three more years with Obama...like it or not. Basically you agree with me that the problem is officials that have hidden agendas and do not have the needs or good of the citizens in mind...so why are you calling me names. It seems like we both want the same thing...good leadership to get us out of the mess we are in...the only difference I see that this is not only at the federal level but also at the local level. Never in any blog did I say that I was in support of the things that Obama is trying to do..please read my blog before you call me names.
8:41
Did anyone actually accuse you of being an obama supporter? I don't think so. You were referred to as a liberal based on your comments.
As for the local level,you and I both know there are imperfect situations everywhere, because we are all imperfect people. Well, most of us anyhow.
We have two processes in place for dealing with undesirable elected officials. If they are guilty of wrongdoings, they can either be voted out at election time or turned over to the judicial system for investigation. This whining, pointing fingers, character assassinations, and the like are NOT the way to achieve that goal.
By the way, I happen to be a Ronald Reagan conservative.
Apparently you do not remember your own post. You did refer to me as a Obama supporter..but that being said.
All you want to do is argue...I will not do that with you.
I never accused anyone of being guilty or doing any sort of wrong doing. All I have said is that as long as we put unqualified, uneducated people in office that cannot handle their own affairs, we cannot expect to be able to move our county or our country forward.
This argument is over. Have a nice day!
7:47
Sure, the argument is over. But who said we were arguing. Those are your words and not mine. But of course it's over, because you, in all your arrogance, are right and I'm wrong. Whatever you choose to believe is fine, but allow me a dissenting opinion.
Would you not call being incompetent in office a form of wrongdoing? I ask since you seem determined to split hair with me over whether or not I called you an obama supporter! Don't you have anything to do with your life?
I wonder why some are able to see the corruption far away in Washington D.C. but can't see the same thing right here in Giles County? The reason so much is wrong in D.C. is because people haven't been paying attention on the local level.
Don't you? You are the one that is always trying to get everyone off topic. You never comment on any thing but how you feel about Mr. Barrett and everything that he is doing. It must be a full time job for you just to keep up with everything that he is doing and thinking, as if you could.
7:34
Why don't you and his dwindling number of followers and worshippers stop feeding this man's ego? Can't you see that he seems to love getting something stirred up and then sitting back to watch the fireworks? Are you a victim of the "hook, line, and sinker" syndrome?
I can't say that I don't care what wab is doing and thinking, but you misinterpret and misunderstand that to be some kind of envy and hero worship on my part. Wrong! Let me say emphatically that I have absolutely no desire to be like him.
to 7:30
I don't suppose it would do any good to mention again that we have two systems in place to deal with elected officials?
4:45,
I am so sorry that you have taken such a personal offense to me saying that I didn't want to argue with you. I never said that your opinion was right or wrong...just different in some ways from mine. I hope you will learn with time to accept everyone's opinion and not act like it is a personal slap to you that they do not agree with you.
By the way...I too voted and supported Reagan.
Hope you have a blessed day!!!
November 14th 7:47 am
It's hopeless 2:20 pm ...Stupidity cannot change with time. This blogger has been on every subject...spewing hate to any one who doesn't say all of views are correct!!!
2:20
Did I not say that you are entitled to your opinion, but please allow me to have a dissenting one? That doesn't sound like the spewing of hatred as 2:22 so erroneously charges. I have said all along that people have a right to their opinions, and I have NEVER resorted to mean-spirited name-calling and condescension when someone doesn't agree with mine. Oh, I readily admit that I point out the name-calling to those who do it and continually plea for them to respect the opinions of others. And I learned that lesson a long time ago. I think we used to be able to call it our raising.
Just because two people disagree does NOT mean that one of them is either stupid or an enabler of wrongdoing. Does it?
I too am sorry that you and I probably got off on the wrong foot and must equally share in the misunderstanding. It's just that the general climate of this blog is one such that you are called names and ridiculed if you offer opposing viewpoints and if you ask that people treat each other in a civil manner. It's certainly ok to disagree without being disagreeable, isn't it? I think so.
How could I hold any animosity toward a Reagan conservative who shows that he or she is an imperfect human being like the rest of us? Pride and arrogance are two things we all should try to avoid. Thank you.
3:46 No one has called you a name or showed any disrespect toward you because of your opinions. The problem is in your trying to justify your opinions in the face of solid facts that say other wise, then you come back with your feelings as justification. If you would present a reasonable, logical basis for your opinions they would no doubt gain more respect than when you offer them based only on your feelings. By the way I have been a strong conservative most of my life even worked on President Reagan's presidential campaigns. I still have the invitation to his inaugural. Allen Barrett
wab...
Do you present a reasonable justification for calling people names and for talking down to those who disagree with you? No, you don't. So what gives you thr right to chasten me for the very things you do?
I'm impressed with your being invited to the Reagan's inaugural. Why did you feel a need to share that? Just saying you have been a strong conservative all your life would have gotten your point across. You know, I wouldn't hold any animosity toward you if you would simply stop with the arrogance and egotism.
5:30 am,
It is amazing to me that no matter what wab says you want to argue about it.
Do you not see the arrogance and egotism in your actions....maybe you and wab cannot see eye to eye because you both have the same characteristics..
Both of you have to be right and there is no ability to disagree.
Must be hard to be that miserable ..trying to control everyone around you!!!!
12:39
No, indeed; I see no arrogance on my part in simply asking wab to explain the hypocrisy of calling people names and talking down to them when they disagree with him and not wanting any of that directed toward himself. It's amazing to me that you can't see that.
Your statement and false accusation that I am trying to control everyone around me is laughable. I could care less about having power and control. I think what you said is another example of the kettle calling the pot black.
To 5:30. You very wrongly state, "Do you present a reasonable justification for calling people names and for talking down to those who disagree with you? No, you don't. So what gives you thr right to chasten me for the very things you do?"
First of all why ask me a question if you are going to answer it? What I have say many times is that I have not called anyone a name until after they have proven that name is appropriate for them and their actions and in all cases I have supplied the reason for such a name. So I ask you when a person intentionally and purposefully tells you something that is not true what would you call that person, how would you identify that behavior? Perhaps I simply don't have the patience to chase around the bush with nice sounding diplomatic names, to me a person who knowingly tells lies is a liar and it has nothing to do with whether they disagree with me or not. Many people have disagreed with me over my lifetime and we remain friends. The problem that you fail to understand is it isn't about disagreeing but about a basic honesty and respect. If a person doesn't have enough respect for themselves and for you to tell you the truth about an issue why should you show any greater respect for them by denying they have lied when it is so obvious?
Explaining one's position using facts and not feelings goes a long way in swaying my position. I don't hold much importance for feelings when used to justify a situation.
I simply do not agree with your accusation that I talk down to people, seems you're the only one who has raised that issue. I talk to everyone the same way, sometimes because of my military background I may be a bit more forceful than some would desire but I treat everyone based on the way they treat me.
You stated, "How could I hold any animosity toward a Reagan conservative who shows that he or she is an imperfect human being like the rest of us?" That is the reason I shared the fact that I supported President Reagan and yes I am very proud of that fact. Allen Barrett
I have not called anyone a name until...that pretty much proved my point. Who appointed YOU the judge of whether or not a person has self-respect? The problem you fail to understand is that not everyone shares your views and opinions. And just because one differs with you doesn't make that person somehow bad. It certainly doesn't warrant your calling that individual a name or talking down to him or her in a condescending manner. Can you not see the arrogance to that?
Let me say it again that my problem with you has never been with your being right or wrong but rather, with your behavior. Pardon me, but I just find it unbelievable that someone in your position in this community behaves as you do toward those you deem unfit for the Kingdom or whatever. You say that you treat others the way they treat you? Well, that's not exactly what the Bible teaches, is it? I prefer the Golden Rule myself. And that is more in line with what Christ taught.
Lastly, how could I hold animosity toward a Reagan conservative? I qualified that statement by saying that in terms of one who admits to being imperfect like the rest of us.
3:30,
You are no doubt the most hypocritical person that I have ever seen. You chastise WAB for the behavior that you are guilty of. Your personal hate for WAB is what drives you on this blog...not your difference in opinion. No matter what he says...you counter with hate...then you want to quote what the Bible says....State your opinion on facts...there is no need for this constant fighting.
The blogger that you were fighting with before this, tried everyway possible to be civil with you and finally just gave up.
Why is it okay for you to be rude and obnoxious and not for WAB? Answer that for me without putting WAB in you response!!!! He is not responsible for your actions!!!
Or maybe you are his puppet and he knows how to pull your strings.
3:47
Excuse me, but you don't know what you are talking about. I have never met wab and, quite honestly, have no desire to do so. I strongly oppose and dislike his behavior, but that doesn't mean I hate the man personally. I post my opinions of the man based on his behavior toward those who disagree with him. I'm sure that, in the final analysis, he and I would have many things in common. So why don't you stop cheerleading long enough to read and discern? You totally misjudged me and made a false charge that I am hypocritical. I despise rude and obnoxious behavior and am not afraid to point it out, regardless of who is guilty. I'm apparently incorrigible to you because I do just that.
5:36,
"You totally misjudged me and made a false charge that I am hypocritical. I despise rude and obnoxious behavior and am not afraid to point it out, regardless of who is guilty. I'm apparently incorrigible to you because I do just that".
In the above statement you say that you despise rude and obnoxious behavior, and you are not afraid to point it out...have you ever thought that when you point it out that you are just as rude and obnoxious as you think WAB is.
I do not know you or WAB, but I do think that the difference in you and him is that he does his research and makes his judgements from what he "sees or hears"...you on the other hand, make your judgements based on what you think WAB comments are. And then you are the cheerleader for whoever WAB has found doing wrong.
I feel that it is a good thing to be aware of what is happening in local government...I try to do my own research and form my own opinion. And I am sorry to say that a lot of what WAB brings forth is true.
Now....you can call me a WAB cheerleaders based on my previous statement...but does that not make you a name caller "based on your behavior toward those who disagree with you".
As I see it does make your behavior hypocritical.
5:55,
I agree with you on most of your previous comments. I do not like all of the negativity on these posts, however, I feel like issues that I would not normally be aware of are brought forth on this site. I, in turn, do my own investigating, it has helped me make political decisions in previous elections.
There is no way to bring these issues to light without the negative aspects of local, state, and federal government. I feel that the previous blogger who is so against Mr. Barratt does not even know what the issues are..all he is is against the comments made by Mr. Barratt. There is no substance to his blog except his put down of what Mr. Barratt says. He does nothing to rebuke the statements made with facts, just negative comments toward Mr. Barratt or anyone else who has negative comments about government...then he stands up tall and calls himself a Reagan Conservative.
Poor Reagan! I think he just did a flip flop in his grave!
There is nothing in the bloggers statements that bring any form of conservative views to light. Just ignorant, obnoxious, and rude remarks!
Amen 6:54.
One big difference I see in the WAB hater and the WAB is the hater doesn't have the conviction of his statements or the courage to be identified with them, I have yet to see a statement by WAB that he didn't take responsibility for and there have certainly been some he could have avoid a lot of problems had he posted them anonymously.
My thanks and respect go out to the WAB.
This is true....WAB Hater...state your name and be proud!! If you have true convictions of the way you feel.
Otherwise...???!!!!
Nov. 16 8;47,6;54 and 7:12 All very good posts. I agree wholeheartedly. Mr. Barrett keep up the good work.
5:55
I didn't call you a name. I asked you to consider stopping your cheerleading. I was describing your behavior. Did I actually call you a cheerleader? No.
It's unfortunate that you guys have no problem with free speech as long as the posts are in agrement with yours. Would you be so kind as to explain this one for me? I've asked this question before. Why is it that wab and others can get on here and call names and make accusations, but it is obviously NOT acceptable for someone like me to point that out?
No one said you couldn't 9:46. How smallminded of you. We can disagree with you and proceed to explain why we have the opinion we have. Sounds like you would like it very much yourself to not be disagreed with. Think about it.
12:29
I went back and read my post that you referred to and then asked me to think about. I did, and I stand firm on every single word I said. You are wrong in assuming that I would prefer turmoil to peace. That's not true.
9:46,
"I didn't call you a name. I asked you to consider stopping your cheerleading. I was describing your behavior. Did I actually call you a cheerleader? No.
It's unfortunate that you guys have no problem with free speech as long as the posts are in agrement with yours. Would you be so kind as to explain this one for me? I've asked this question before. Why is it that wab and others can get on here and call names and make accusations, but it is obviously NOT acceptable for someone like me to point that out?"
The problem is not that your post are not acceptable...it is the hypocrisy that you condemn WAB and others for calling names and making accusations...but in every one of your post you condemn WAB and others for stating their opinion, and the fact that your post are only about what others are saying and not about any thing with any substance. You state no facts or statements that are not against everyone else freedom of speech.
If you would like to bring forth facts or resolutions, I would appreciate that kind of post from you. If not...that is your right too.
By the way if I were cheerleading for WAB or anyone else, I would be a cheerleader...so by you saying I am cheerleading...what does that say...wouldn't you agree? This play on verbage is exactly what you condemn WAB for.
Why can't you simply answer my question instead of splitting hair over whether I actually called you a cheerleader or not?
Why can't you two grow up? You are not even discussing the issues here. Don't you know people are tired of you two. Why don't you go on vacation for a long time and give everyone a rest?
9:51
I readily agree with you that this is so childish. But I will always offer a rebuttal when someone smarts off to me. It's just my nature.
Ignore her!
7:28
It would be a lot more accurate if you would ask your pals to ignore "him". and not her.
Hey, everyone needs to be a little childish sometimes. How can you respond to a pea brain so it understands without getting down on their level.
Hey everyone needs to be a little childish sometimes. Besides if you're trying to talk to the anonymous know it all how else could you communicate with it.
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