Why Are Meals Provided For Members and Guest at Economic Development Meetings????
Today and at each Economic Development Committee Meeting a full meal was served to members and their guest. Today that list totaled twenty for the formal meeting and lunch. Several others ate after the meeting. Twenty meals at the cost of $10.00 per meal plus catering fee totals over two hundred dollars to serve free meals to people who are among the wealthiest in the county. These meals were paid for by tax dollars and rate payers. Allen Barrett
posted by Allen Barrett | 1:49 PM
133 Comments:
So do you propose that these people bring sack lunches?
Did the meeting last all day or did they just turn it into a big day.
Could they not take a break and go out to lunch?
How many hours did the meeting part last not counting to get together?
Hascal Mayes, who is chairman of EDC, has never taken a dime for serving on this. Neither has he asked for reinbursement for his gas. He is doing it to try to help the county. If the county does not think what he does is worth ONE free meal a month. I am sure he would reinburse the county for it. Personaly I would just as soon he got off it.
The meeting began at approximately noon and ended about 1:30. During this time there was a meal followed by five speakers then followed by the business that was voted on.
The question isn't whether they should bring a sack lunch or whether they deserve a free meal. The matter is that with the unemployment rate holding near 15%, many people having trouble paying their utilities and putting food on their own table why should their money be used to feed others who are very capable of feeding themselves. When the County Commission meets they eat at their own expense either before or after the meeting.
If Mr Mayes has not taken a penny, as some others may not have, that is very commendable and worthy of praise. It's unfortunate that the board gets painted with a broad brush based on the actions of some who have taken thousands of dollars in benefits from rate payers and tax monies. Allen Barrett
Ms Mayes, your husband could easily resign especially as he has been on the board for much too long.
wab
Did someone on here just make another enemy?
Mrs. Mayes your husband is NOT chairman of the EDC board. Its David Rackley. Did he forget to tell you?
Everyone on the board are yes men and should be elected by the people of the county not appointed by either city or county mayors.
Oh man this is pathetic. More trouble to stir up anyone? Looks like we are off to another good start.
with the economy in the shape it is in... I would think we should be cutting back.. not catering!
6:05 Can you not add anything of interest other than your usual "did someone just make another enemy".
If posts about what is taking place is making an "enemy" then tough.
Most elected or appointed folks know when it is time to go. And let others serve or bring new ideas. That change can be a good thing. Others get in and enjoy their position. Or whatever. Control perhaps? In some positions the big bucks. Regardless, some don't know when it is time to go and have to be shown the door. That door is opening for several now.
Jobs are scarce. Folks are struggling. Congrats to Mr. Rackley. Please do something. Anything! Try new things. Try new ways! Unemployment is running out. No jobs around. We are trusting you to get things moving ... before we have to move.
Why does Speer hold this meeting at noon and have a meal with it? City council and city workshop meet at noon without a meal. Problem could be solved by moving the meetign to 5 pm, 1 pm or 11 am.
If new chairman Rackley wants to make an impression of change he could start with meeting time change without meals and save taxpayers money.
Amen to that 7:34. The lunches that are served are also served to Dan's Secretary. Do we need to be feeding her too??? Not on my tax dollar. I say Mr. Rackley needs to cut a lot of the waste out starting with meals followed by cutting the position of Econ. Dir. Most of the time when a business or company wants to come into a place they contact a Lawyer who in return contacts the County and City officials. Then some counties use their Chamber of Commerce as their Recruiting Agency. Maybe that's why Speer wants to stay on the Board of the Chamber of Commerce. Maybe to make sure Pulaski don't get any high paying jobs! I wonder!
8:35
I suppose you think it best if everyone brought a sack lunch? Perhaps a mid-afternoon meeting time to avoid any question of food?
I know that the meals are catered when the county school principals have their meetings. For Pete's sakes, what's wrong with that? Whether you like it or not, these are professional people who are doing wonderful things for our children and for our county. I'm sorry if you think they aren't deserving of an egg and biscuit or a hamburger steak!
Sorry 7:27 I understand the meals at PES are much more than a biscuit or hamburger they are full meals including dessert. Maybe if you told everyone what these wonderful things are these professional people are doing for our children and county it would be a bit easier. So far the expenses far and away exceed any benefits they have created. If these "professionals" are hungry they make enough to feed themselves, after all what would they do if they weren't at the meeting. Tax money is short, unemployment is very high, the future looks bleak for many and it's past time to cut expenses and pass the saving on to the payers.
What are we talking about ?? PES or EDC ????
It seems there may be some confusion developing about who is involved with the meals mentioned in this thread.
The Economic Development Committee or (EDC) holds their meetings in the Pulaski Electric System (PES) conference room. As far as I know PES does not directly fund the lunches for the meetings but are heavy contributors along with county tax money given to the EDC.
While PES has made a commitment to re-examine their expenses and make cuts I know of no commitment from the EDC. The EDC and The PES Boards are made up of some of the same people but are separate. Hope this helps. Allen Barrett
9:07 Good post. You are right in everything you said.
I disagree with 9:07 but would concede that during these tough economic times a little common sense might prevail. Perhaps the meals thing could be suspended at least for awhile, particularly if taxpayer funded.
I think it was rude and disrespectful the way 9:07 talked about "professionals" and discounted their service to our children. That was shameful.
Principals mtg are not catered; teachers bring food for admins.
I am 9:07 and still waiting to hear what these "professionals have done for our children"? This was in response to the claim by 7:27 and the criticism from 4:24. If there has been "wonderful" things done by these people for our children it shouldn't be very hard for you to name some of them.
If you mistakenly confused this group with another please say so.
I am 4:24 and I stand by what I said. Are you saying that those professionals who are in the business of educating our children are not worth the meals they are served? Or is your complaint (whine) only concerned with Mr. Jackson and select other officials you resent for some reason?
I am 9:07 and I don't have a clue what you're tallking about 4:24 /6:19.
Mr Jackson has nothing to do with the EDC, there are no "professionals in the business of educating our children" on the EDC.
I have no complaint or whine about Mr. Jackson and could care less what anyone is eating or where except when they are using my money.
If you are talking about the principals and teachers meetings which is the only way your comments can make any sense.They have nothing to do with the EDC either and I understand they supply their own food for their meetings.
9:39
I thought that, according to the complainers on this blog, Mr. Jackson was involved in everything around here. No?
Your description of "professionals" led me to think you were also being critical of even principal and teacher meetings. Apparently, I was wrong. My apologies.
My commissioner told me that ED had an expense or budget of SIX THOUSAND per year for meals. That money would go a long way at the Help Center to feed people who really need it. Come on ED committee. Don't you know people right here have less than adequate food to eat?
7:48 Good idea. Feed the hungry instead of those who can more than afford to pay for their own meals. Come on EDComm members. We are counting on you to make the move. Remember Dan Speer is your employee. Its not what he wants but what you need to do for the rights of the citizens.
To the person who claimed to be "His Wife" on one of the above posts, I want to clarify something. If Mr. Mayes hasn't been paid a dime for his time then I think you should know that's not the case with the County Commissioners. They get paid $30.00 each time they attend the ECD Meetings.Mrs. Vanzant can verify this and she'll tell you that's right. The Commissioners are paid through your County Tax Dollars to serve on that committee. Now, can't at least these members pay for their own lunch? I think so, along with the rest of them. Enough is enough. Talk to your Council Members and Commissioners about not funding all the wasteful spending.
If you go into the Finance Office or Van Zant's after any meeting you will find them eating also.
JAT says:
It is not what we want, or what is the right thing to do. When are you all going to realize that it is what Dan Speer wants that matters. It is his pond and he is the big fish. He will do whatever he decides is best for him. He is above ordinary citizens and until we gather enough courage to vote him out and/or fire him, Dan will continue to do what he does best ... he will take care of himself. He is good, very good at doing that.
How often do they meet?
Good luck at going into the Financial office and finding anyone doing anything, especially if you go on Friday afternoon
I think they all take Friday off. I too have been by there on Friday and there is no one to be found. Friday isn't much different than any other day I must say. I have been up there any other day during the week and they are less than half staffed most of the time. Seems Loretta needs to learn some mgmt. skills. You have one of the most frequented office in the county and many times everyone goes to lunch at the same time and vacation is the same way. Loretta should know better. She should have those employees forecast their vacation in advance. Everyone that does payroll and insurance should not be allowed to be off at the same time. Employees go up there and need a question answered or need to discuss something pertaining to their paycheck or insurance and there will be no one there who can help. So what gives Loretta? Why don't you manage your employees?
Would you complainers and fault-finders like a little cheese with your whine? Can't you find ANYTHING pleasant to say about those you dislike? Probably not, but thought I'd ask.
I wonder what your reaction would be if you went to WalMart got a basket of items and paid for them then was told that you couldn't take them out of the store? Would your reaction be a legitimate complaint or whining? Well, the people of Giles County are paying for a service and not getting the benefits their money is paying for and people are getting very tired of it. Many of those in the courthouse are simply not earning their pay, they are not giving an hour of work for an hour of pay. Allen Barrett
wab...
By all means, be specific as to your charges. Go ahead and give their names and what you think should be done about them. This is your chance to be brave and step up.
5:54 All your comments proves is that you never go to the courthouse or annex. Of course you may be an employee there and feel your toes being stomped on by the comments. If you are a tax payer and go there you will find that nobody in any of the offices you pay for are overworked. Our population is down. The staff in our courthouse is up. The commissioners know this too. But do nothing about it. Go figure!
Oh poor thing 4:17! Are your itsy, bitsy toes getting stepped on?? My, my you really aren't very intelligent are you? Makes me wonder about your raising...see, if your momma didn't teach you, then I will be more than obliged to enlighten you. Are you listening??? Listen up now...just because you don't approve of the way someone does their job, does not mean you do not like them. Wow, you do know how to separate the two don't you?? You really should grow up and soon because this isn't child's play were are dealing with here. I mean really what kind of a person are YOU if you can't still be civil and kind to people you disagree with? You need to wrap that tiny,little pea brain of yours around that concept. Again, grow a thicker skin because clearly your toes are being stepped on or someone's close to you(family/friends)are.
8:26
Your post is so typical of the know-it-all and condescending attitude that permeates this blog. You have a lot of nerve in suggesting that I be civil toward those whom I disagree with. That's my major bone of contention with people who don't extend that courtesy to those who have opposing opinions.
My toes or those of my family and friends being stepped on? Wrap your brain around this. The answer is a firm no.
Again, a little cheese with that whine?
looks like the know it all cansendasores got you by the tail - difference twixt them & you is in the words of "know" (their case) & you having "no" (zippo).
Back to the meals.... How can we get that stopped?
Anyone got any suggestions?
Everyone should start fasting!
Since David Rackley is now chairman of the board he could make that change. Could also make a meeting time change but doubt we shall we much improvement under Rackley. Hope he surprises the community.
There's never going to be any improvement to anything in this county until the whiners are in charge. But the problem is that they can't get elected. Maybe the electoral process should be changed in Giles County so that the candidates with the least amount of votes would be elected? That's one way to get those "smarter than the rest of us" people in office. Just a thought.
You better be glad people that ask questions ask them. Glad Mr. Barrett and others tell us what is going on. We have elected officials who have Brentwood tastes on Pulaski wages. It don't jive! Unless you make what they make. How many of you make six figures? $90,000 or $70,000? Our average wage would be what maybe thirty thousand.
90,000 seems like a five-figure income to me.
Picky, picky 4:51. Guess you didn't see the question mark, or maybe you didn't understand it, between the words "six-figures" and the five digit number which made it a different question.
Could it be you're just a bit too anxious to point out small insignificant typing situations while overlooking the major problems of the county? Allen Barrett
wab...
Oh yes, I saw the question mark, and I fully understand how to punctuate sentences. But thanks for the grammar lesson.
You really should consider getting a job. You seem to have far too much idle time on your hands. Just an observation and opinion.
No, I don't overlook major problems in this county. I just don't approach them by name-calling, character assassinations, sowing discord, and the like.
6:26:00 PM
Maybe you need to get a job. You seem to have a lot of time on your hands.
Does your computer ding every time someone post on here or when WAB starts a new post? You are usually first to post.
Oh did I but in on you and WAB?
After a hard day at work I like to check and see what's going on here.
7:51
I have a full-time job and work every day. Yes, I'm usually among the first to post when wab starts a thread that "suggests" or directly accuses certain individuals of wrongdoings. He just never stops, and, regardless of his motivation, it's wrong and I'm going to remind him every time he does it.
Strange! you claimed before that you were a retired gentleman.
The job I figure they have is paid for by tax dollars. He posts on our dime. Why? Cause his toes are smashed. If you were making six figures OR OR OR $90,000 or $70.000 would you want folks asking questions? NO. So they have to come on here and come on here and try to badger wab thinking he will quit. Don't think it will work.
I've known WAB a long time, played softball with him, and whatever else you may think about him he is no quitter. The more you kick him the more he'll kick back and the greater the challenge the more determined he will become. I'm not a close friend and couldn't care less if you call me a cheerleader, just an observer who has seen him refuse to back down from anyone including bullies on the softball field to high ranking church officials. He's shown a strong sense of integrity and will not wavier from it.
I'm not the retired gentleman, so you are mistaken.
To Bob...
What about turning the other cheek, praying for those who do us wrong, and etc? What about quiet humility, meekness, and a gentle spirt? These are some of the traits of integrity I admire in anyone.
The dingbat is just lost without her hammer. Maybe someone will give her one for thanksgiving.
Must be a hoot, having two turkeys for thanksgiving - the rest probably pray for silence
I look for good things to happen with David Rackley as chairman. I believe he will work for improvement and work for jobs. If he disagrees with Speer he'll tell him I think. I've voted for Speer every time he ran. But I would have more respect for him if he knew it was time for him to choose one thing to do. To step aside. Instead of trying to run every show in town. I think we will find that there's a lot of folks who would be involved if he would step aside. Just cancel the catered luncheons Mr. Rackley. They are a point of contention. We don't need contention. We need jobs.
He (Speer) doesn't care about the city or the county it's POWER he wants.
OK, this was about why the EDC gets a free lunch everytime they have a meeting? It was brought up to change the time or have them brown bag their lunch? Do I have this straight? Well then here are the answers. Yes, if my tax dollars are being spent for them to have lunch, then they need to be bringing their own. The EDC has not done very much to develop the economy of Giles County and therefore doesn't need to be spending tax dollars. Giles County is a public entity not private, and money should not be spent that the we don't want spent.
5:30
To Bob...
What about turning the other cheek, praying for those who do us wrong, and etc? What about quiet humility, meekness, and a gentle spirt? These are some of the traits of integrity I admire in anyone.
This is what you wrote, show me your quiet humility, your meekness and your gentle spirit. Show me where you have turned the other cheek? You berate everyone who stands up for what they belive in if it doesn't fit into your mold of what you think Giles County should be. Your pedantic blitherings are so neolithic that you can see what is really going on. With a 15% unemployment rate in this county, we have a right to know where every penny that is spent is going, and if we don't approve of it then by God we have the right, duty, and obligation to speak up about it, and try to change it. So please, put away your petty barbs and either become part of the solution or start your own blog and try to get people to see things your way, because you are definitely not changing our point of view.
3:20
Shouldn't you be addressing the questions in your first paragraph to Mr. Barrett? I too admire those traists in anyone.
Who is Bob?
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Tuesday, November 10, 2009 8:06:00 AM
To 5:47 why would you think "The Real Deadman" should have addressed his first paragraph, about the free meals at the EDC meetings, specifically to me? This is a matter that is costing every taxpayer and rate payer in the county. I happen to be in full agreement with the first paragraph of "The Real Deadman".
As for turning the other cheek and praying for others, I certainly do pray for others but I have never been and probably could never be a pacifist. While the principle Jesus taught is indeed extraordinarily commendable turning the other cheek would have eliminated Jews and others identified as inferior and objectionable from the Earth. Prayer without action is as hollow as a skull without a brain. Sitting in a corner watching TV and praying for food without making any effort to get some food is absurd. Even when God sent the Manna His Children still were expected to gather it up and eat it. Allen Barrett
wab
Well, you've made it quite clear whom you think are inferior and objectionable to you. But I still don't know who appointed your highness the judge.
5:47
No, I don't need to address my comments to Mr. Barrett. That is what this blog is addressing, and I just tossed in my 75 cents worth. I say that because of inflation, and because my opinion is worth more. As to who Bob is, I quoted what was posted before and then made a post about what was said. If it was you that posted about turning the other cheek, quiet humility, meekness, and a gentle spirit, then you are as hypocritical as those you berate and proclaim to be hatemongers, and followers of the "hook, line, and sinker." Please, don't try to demean those who want to improve Giles County by holding our government to the same standards and mores that we must adhere to.
3:49
Once again you are so simple in the way you perceive what is being said. Mr. Barrett didn't say that he found anyone objectionable. He said that "turning the other cheek would have eliminated Jews and others identified as inferior and objectionable from the Earth" if you remember there was this little thing called the holocaust back in the 1940's and if someone had not stepped in, ie not "turned the other cheek", then more Jews would have died. Remember, someone considered them inferior and objectionable. Try to stay on the same page as the rest of us, OK?
deadman...
Here we go again as Ronald Reagan so eloquently stated from time to tome. I stand by what I said to your hero. It is quite clear to me whom he finds inferior to him and objectionable. But of course, you can't see that, can you?
So do you think the Bible teaches humility, turning the other cheek, and praying for those who despitefull use us? Mine does.
You falsely accuse me of trying to demean those who are trying to make things better for Giles County. You have got to be joking, right? We both know better than that. And please stop with the childish condescension by asking that I try to stay on the same page with the rest of US? I don't think I want to be anywhere with the "US" you are talking about. What a joke.
Please, what I said was neither childish nor condescending. That is a game you would rather I didn't play. You berate, browbeat, whine, cajol, and get downright nasty with everyone who agrees with Mr. Barrett, and you accuse others of despite? Your level of humility and meekness is right up there with his. I'm not saying that is a bad thing, but you expect others to bow to your whims and not express their own opinions. Grow-up.
deadman...
My, my but aren't we busy spewing and accusing this morning. Your smart remark about my trying to stay on the same page with the rest of "US" was not condescending? I must have missed something. Sounds pretty arrogant and condescending to me. But perhaps I'm just simple in the way I perceive?
You are wrong about my being nasty to those who agree with barrett. I have no problem with their agreeing with him. But when they act like he does, I will call them to task. You missed a simple point.
Ignore her!
I wish I knew who "she" is~maybe can guess????
Wish I knew who "she" is as well. The gender confusion is outrageous. And the one so confused is dead wrong if he or she (unsure) thinks I am a female! What a laugh.
You are absolutely right, I have missed the point. I do not understand whyy you must be so vile when someone questions the powers that be. You may not like what he does or how he does it but he is usually right. So what is your opinion about this thread?
By the way, "spewing and accusing", I have not accused anyone of anything. I have been accused of and called many things. You also need to read your own posts on other threads. You can't keep your pedantic meandering rants straight.
deadman...
My but you are busy, busy, busy with your spewings. That's right...with your spewings.
I never said ANYONE didn't have a right to question government. But they don't have to behave in the manner some of you are doing. And you have the nerve to ask me to get over myself? What an everloving joke you are. Get a job for Heaven's sakes.
I rest my case. Enjoy your day neighbor.
Anonymous said... wab
Well, you've made it quite clear whom you think are inferior and objectionable to you. But I still don't know who appointed your highness the judge.
Tuesday, November 17, 2009 3:49:00 PM
I read wab's post you were referring to several time to make sure what it said and am totally confused by your comment. Just who did wab identify as being inferior and objectionable to him?
As for the appointment thing seems your covetousness has done a bit of self elevation for yourself.
You remind me of the guy who went about bragging about being the most humble man in town.
I wish we could get the 2 of you together for a boxing match and who cares about the outcome~it's just to keep the back and forth stuff between a couple of people out of a discussion intended to think through problems~if you want to banter make a thread for just that~depending on the way someone may look at it~this ditraction of accusations is just that ~ maybe we can appeal to the one (whichever/whoever) not to draw the thread into rebuttle and barb trading! Also-if you agree with the thread it makes sense why you are here~if you always oppose what is said~why would you come here other than to distract what the others want to discuss~? It makes no sense to me~ Mr. Barret is relaying what is said at the meetings and asks the questions~why should that scare the neysayers?~Maybe we could just gather at someplace and have an "open" debate? Just be prepared to bring your lawnchair~~
11:24 do you not think that accusing someone, anyone of such a racially charged accusation such as believing "some people are inferior and objectionable" is an accusation worthy of challenge by everyone on this blog and anywhere else. Such an absurdity should be condemned and challenged by every reader here.
the absurdity is that the comments take us all off topic~it should go without saying that the name calling shouldn't start no matter what side of an issue you are on~answer/discuss only the issue! Just becasue you are accused of something on a blog~when their aren't any names attached doessn't make it so~ If you call me a liar anonymously~why do I have to defend I'm not~no one knows who it is anyway~maybe that just got taken wrong, that's my piece hope we can get back to thread topic~thanks
howard...
Do you not believe that wab thinks Mrs. Vanzant and select others are considered objectionable? It's obvious by the things he says about them. Do you not see that when he calls people belittling and nasty names that he considers himself superior? What about when he accuses people of lacking in knowledge and of essentially being stupid because they disagree with him? Amazing.
Oh don't flatter yourself, WAB is not the only citizen by a far cry that finds Vanzant objectionable. And, that is putting it nice.
4:56
Can we stay on topic here? The question was who wab finds inferior and objectionable. Remember the hook, line, and sinker thing. Mrs. Vanzant is NOT the dishonest person this blog has been on a mission to prove. Do you ever ask yourself why?
Actually the question was why are meals provided for the EDC at their meetings at Taxpayer expense. Once again the thread wandered away from it's intended direction, partially my fault for which I apologize. I let someone get my dander up about other things. So, what is the EDC going to? It appears the taxpayers disagree with the EDC's free lunch.
I know her and she had lied, time and time again. I have seen her be very deceitful to our county. What more do you want??? You are one of a few still supporting her in comparison to who has in the past. She has exposed her rear too many times...it is talked about by a lot of citizens. I have been asking around who everyone is going to vote for in the co. exec. race and all I am hearing is Scott Stewart. People want a younger, honest, fresh thinking person for a change. It beats the dead weight, lying machine we have in there now. Do you not wonder why so many people call her a liar? It is because she is one. And to answer your question, no I don't have to ask myself "why". Her reputation speaks for itself. We will see at the poll next year and next year will be here before you know it. My support will go to whoever runs against her. She burned her bridge with me. Funny thing was, all she has ever had to be was be honest...she couldn't do that and so she loses my support.
9:17
Wrong! You would be surprised who has rallied to Mrs. Vanzant's side, because they are tired of the attacks, smears, and accusations being made by a little group of people who are determined to see her demise. How ironic is that? What is the real motivation? I think you do need to ask yourself why on that one. I find that quite troubling. It will be very intersting to see who they put in the race against Mrs. Vanzant. I have an idea who, but will justbe silent on that for now.
Well, you vote for Lassie if she runs against Mrs. Vanzant if that's what you want to do. But my vote stays with the present county mayor. And I don't even have to ask myself why about that.
Saturday, November 21, 2009 7:16:00 AM
Please try to keep on thread. Why does the EDC get free lunch at our expense? Our expense, being ALL taxpayers.
deadman...
I believe I responded on another thread to your request that I stay on topic. Perhaps that would apply to all of us, right?
What do you suggest? How about sack lunches at these meetings.
If you got to be there at lunch.
Sack lunches good thought.
Buba
How about eat-a-snacks and bottled water for principal meetings, professional development seminars, workshops, and the like?
Change the meeting time from noon and let the members be responsible for feeding themselves. How about meeting at around 5 p.m. so those of us lucky enough to have a job can be there and hear what is being done to bring employment here?
As long as the members pay for them out of their own pocket, I don't see a problem with it. just because they are on a committee doesn't mean we should fund their luncheons.
deadman...
You know what? This luncheon thing for various professional groups has been going on all across this nation and a lot longer than I have lived. I realize that budgets and tax monies have to be accounted for, but I just think you are being absolutely ridiculous. Remember.......hook, line, and sinker. Just because someone else says it's wrong and sinister doesn't necessarily mean it's true. You have a brain of your own. Think for yourself.
Hey anonymous 6:06. There are a lot of things that have been going on for a long time but does that make it Ok to continue them? Unborn Babies have been killed for a long time for convenience should that continue to happen because that's the way it's been? Have you actually seen an abortion if not then by your ill logic they don't really exist. Don't know about you but I don't like eating bologna and crackers while buying steak and potatoes for someone else. On second thought you probably don't mind if you are one of the parasites doing the eating. Don't remember seeing where anyone but you referred to this as sinister only wrong. If you have a brain maybe you should get it out of the box, dust it off, charge it up and put the whole nanobyte of intelligence to work creating a real thought.
greasy...
Although it's none of your business, I detest abortion and would never be anywhere close to it.
It sounds to me like you really don't like the idea that some people fare better in life than you do. Is it jealousy? I ask, because I used to hold hard feelings toward people who were doing better than me. But I realized how wrong that was and now appreciate the fact that some people simply do. And I don't resent them for that. You know what? Some people have paid their dues to be in those positions. I neither defend nor condemn them.
I'm confused, because you talk against abortion (a conservative idea) and seem to resent those who are in more elitist postions than you are (a democrat mantra).
What on earth did you think I referred to as sinister? What I SAID is that just because someone else says something is wrong or sinister doesn't necessarily make it true.
Perhaps you need to check your box to see if your brain is still there?
Now, now fellows lets not get upset. Everyone is entitled to his opion.
In this day of hard times it is WRONG for the wealthy to take from the taxpayers. I hope they realize before it's too late & do the right thing. I hope they are made to pay back what they spent on those extravant trips that was just a vacation.
Sorry but your hopes are as empty as the head on some peoples opinions.
The question 9:00 was just because something has been done the same for a long time does it make it right? You made it clear in your feeble mind if it's been done like that before then it should continue to be done that way. I made you look stupid, oops sorry I didn't make you look stupid you did that on your own, I made your ill logic look stupid.
Sorry my little feathered friend I am so conservative that Sean Hannity looks like a raving liberal in comparison.
Your comment about "Just because someone else says it's wrong and sinister doesn't necessarily mean it's true." was in context with of the topic to which no one had said anything about it involving anything sinister only that it was wrong. Now think about this if you can, Just because someone else says it's wrong or sinister doesn't necessarily mean it's not true. I know this will be a taxing endeavor for you so take a while to digest this statement before you comment.
greasy...
I stand by my comment and never said a thing about hanging on to status quo just because it's always been done a certain way. I work at a place that's exactly like that, and it plagues me that they are so set in their ways and unwilling to change.
I was referring to the fact that just because someone says it's so doesn't make it so. For example, just because someone is running around town calling you a kook doesn't necessarily make you one. However, I would tend to agree with the rumor. My apologies if I didn't structure that statement so that you could understand it. Nevertheless, that is what I meant to say and I stand by it.
Well good for you my fine feathered conservative friend (sic). At least we could agree on that much.
I agree 6:33 just because someone says it don't make it so but when a person says it and presents the proof then shouldn't it be at least considered possibly true instead of dismissed over and over because you dislike the person or their ways?
greasy...
Well, we agree on another point. Yes, truth should NEVER be dismissed. But once it's out there, do you have to keep beating people over the head with it(or with your crutch) just because they might disagree with how it is presented? I loved a line from an old Hank Williams Jr. song that said if a man is found guilty, he should swing quickly. So you see, we aren't all that much different, are we? I'm trying to offer you a fig leaf here.
greasy...
Excuse me. I meant to say I was offering an olive branch to you.
Don't need no fig leaf I only wear custom made Banana Leafs. What good is a olive branch if it has no olives, sort of like having a martini with a watermelon.
If the truth is that there is a fire should you whisper it once or yell it over and over until people react and escape from the danger? People should always be beat over the head with the truth until they react. How do you think people changed their minds about the earth being flat? Oh, I'm sorry I though everyone had accepted that truth by now.
greasy...
I should have known you would react in your "typical for this blog" arrogant and condescending way since I don't see things the way you do.
No, you DO NOT have to beat people over the head to get them to see truth. The problem you have is that you cannot tolerate the opinions of others who have different viewpoints.
By the way, that is called arrogance.
Arrogance 4:02? I thought you specialized in hate and spewing now I see you're and expert on arrogance too. Does that mean you have an ambidextrous brain that is really an accomplishment taking one cell and having it split on two subjects.
If you don't have to beat some people over the head with the truth before they see that truth then how do you explain your stubbornness against the truth? I'm only arrogant and condescending to you but who isn't? Your problem is you just don't have the brain power to drive a life so you see everyone who does have this ability as arrogant and condescending the problem is you're jealous and stupid. I get along great with intelligent people and they have no problem with what you consider arrogant and condescending, amazing isn't it? Guess I'll go now and give my wonderful brain a rest.
greasy...
There you go again with that typical know-it-all condescension. And I don't have enough brain power to drive a life, according you YOU? And you can't see one ounce of arrogance in that, can you? It's a good example of the kettle calling the pot black, wouldn't you think?
Your wonderful brain and lofty IQ do seem to need a rest...a long one. Seek professional help.
There you go again 6:10 saying things that just ain't so... Why would you think I don't see any arrogance in what I wrote. I thought I made it clear "I'm only arrogant and condescending to you but who isn't?" was a statement I made in that post. You see as Mac Davis said "It's Hard To Be Humble When You're Perfect In Every Way". Here's your problem 6:10 I'm everything you think you are, you see the only thing that separates us is reality I live in it and you don't.
greasy...
Incredible arrogance! You really should seek some professional help. The syndrome has gone full cycle, and now I fear you are becoming quite narcissistic. But that's symptomatic of the disorder. Grandiose delusions of importance and self-worth are also attending symptoms of Hook, Line, and Sinker Syndrome.
Well, 4:07 looks like you done overdosed on your own delusions of self importance. You don't need professional psychiatric help they only deal with ailments of the mental processes and sense you have no mental process you're out of luck. Of course you could seek a good neurologist but then they would have nothing to work with. No, I suggest a strong three year old who is used to playing with clay perhaps they could reform you from the dithering idiot you have become back into the simple idiot you were.
greasy...
Calling people names when they disagree with you is a major symptom of Hook, Line, and Sinker Syndrome. Let's just call it HLSS from now on for the sake of brevity. You know, like calling Lou Gehrig Disease ALS.
I truly worry about you. Your anger and hatred are going to give you ulcers and, what's worse, exacerbate your already-existing mental problems.
Heal thyself!
Sorry I have been gone for so long, but now I think I need to answer a few comments.
Monday, November 23, 2009 6:06:00 AM
You know, you stated that I need to think for myself. I can understand that, however, since you have no idea who I am or what I stand for, then how dare you ask me to "Think for Myself"? Please, you have gone around this entire blog saying that anyone who disagrees with you has "Hook, Line and Sinker Syndrome"!!! Well I am neither an MD nor a Psychiatrist, but I do know that there is no such diagnosis. I also know, there is no such diagnosis as Cranial Rectal Insertion, but believe me, it is something you suffer from. I wish you would get an enema to clean the brown fog from your eyes, and maybe it would stop you from spewing the same brown fog across this blog. You think I am arrogant, but you are just as arrogant, the difference is, you are so sanctimonious, the way you preach about arrogance, belittling others. You should beware where you step neighbor. Your mouth, (fingers) are writing checks you can't cash. I have grown weary of your petty diatribes. You may say what you will about me or others, but realize that your words are, to those who are aware, feathers before a maelstrom and are just as easily dispelled. Therefore please crawl back into your web of self deceit and grovel as you have always done. I have always thought I was a free thinker, I do not lightly follow anyone, and I give my loyalty sparingly. Unfortunately, when you vote, you are usually voting for the lesser of two evils. Does that mean that either person is evil? No, it just means that neither of them is worth voting for, but you vote for that which is less distasteful. This is what you fail to realize. I sound like I am rambling, but I am responding to all the heinous posts you have levelled at me and others on this blog. Please get over yourself, and just see someone to have a Rectal Craniectomy. You might see the world clearer for once. Peace, neighbor.
Greasy, keep it up.
When are you going to understand that I have never called you a name because you disagreed with me6:06, I have only called you names because you are stupid. I have no hatred, anger or ulcers, each time I have written in response to you I have been just as calm, peaceable and lovable as usual. It's only your perception, perhaps as "The Real Deadman" suggest from your head being submersed in recycled gravy.
deadman...
Please don't threaten me, OK? I have a right to my opinions just as you do. And I've never been a part of the name-calling on this blog. I simply stand opposed to those who do. Just look at the hatred this mess has stirred up. I'm wondering when you and greasy will finally understand that.
Tuesday, December 01, 2009 5:45:00 PM
I do not believe I threatened you in any way, neighbor. I know you have the right to your opinion, but you also belittle everyone who thinks a certain way. Ypu even have the right to do that, but when you do that, you need to expect people to defend themselves. You cannot expect me to sit idly by and have you belittle myself and others for believing the way we do. We may agree with WAB, but that doesn't mean we have swallowed anything. Maybe you need to think for yourself and stop naysaying everything everyone says. Maybe we do know something you don't. Peace, neighbor.
Tuesday, December 01, 2009 5:45:00 PM
And by the way, "I've never been a part of the name-calling on this blog" and "Just look at the hatred this mess has stirred up. I'm wondering when you and greasy will finally understand that." What kind of crack are you smoking? You name call more than anyone. You refer to Mr. Barrett as more things than I care to remember, and you belittle anyone who sides with him. I know, you didn't intend that, or you didn't say that. You are so full of hatred yourself that you can't see straight. I get on this blog to learn and have some witty banter. You unfortunately are not witty and can't banter. So please, take yourself less seriously and have fun. Peace, neighbor.
deadman...
Wrong. I don't call anybody names. Oh, I want to so badly at times, but it's not my nature. However, I must confess that I did say that greasy's mental health clinician will come to a fast conclusion that he or she is a kook.That was merely an observation based on observable behavior. But, when provoked, I too have the right to defend myself. Would you agree. And I refuse to sit idly by when people get on here and malign and slam those they dislike...or were told they should dislike.
As for barrett, please refresh my memory on what names I have called him. You know, I'm not the only person in Giles County who does not share your admiration and respect for him. In spite of that, I do not run around calling him names, but I will point out his arrogant and condescending behavior whenever he shows it. I would do the same for you my friend.
Wednesday, December 02, 2009 6:16:00 AM
Unfortunately, I can't verify that you "called" anyone anything. All your posts are "ANONYMOUS". Therefore you can hide, say whatever you want, and be free to say, that wasn't me. Come out in the open and then we will talk turkey, neighbor.
dead...
I don't need your "verification" of anything, because I know in my heart that I am not one of those who continually get on this blog and call people nasty names. No, no!
Your anger and resentment are laughable, but it's not really funny. Actually, it's quite serious and will lead to even deeper mental problems, ulcers, and etc. HLSS is not that difficult to cure, but you must take the first step...think for yourself and stop relying on someone else to tell you who you should despise and ridicule. Ok?
And you call me anonymous? Who is the deadman? Too funny.
6:12
At least he uses something so we can tell him from you.
I believe all anonymous are you.
You don't have to give your name just something so we can tell you from the others.
Tennessee
3:56
Wrong! I'm not the only person in Giles County who opposes what all too often goes on here. By the way, what difference does it make if I sign an alias or not?
Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:12:00 AM
As I have said before, those who know me will recognize my name. Those who don't will at least recognize the fact that I stand out from the anonymous crowd. And yes, I do call you Anonymous. Every post you make starts out, "Anonymous said." Therefore you are truly anonymous, and so....wherefore art thou, anonymous? Answer that, correctly, and we may have more to talk about. Answer it not, and all will truly know.
"My anger and resentment are laughable"? I am not angry, and am only resentful of those who try to tell me what I do and don't think. I have learned enough over the years to avoid the pettiness that you dole out, but I am actually having fun at your expense. You just haven't realized that yet. When you can figure out the convolutions that have been set in motion, you may begin to realize what I am doing. I know you are intelligent enough, you just have a problem, you think you are smarter than those of us with, "HLSS". Wow, I now know what is wrong with me. Please neighbor, enlighten me more. I wait with bated breath, your next post.
deadman...
I stand by every single word I said. You really are quite laughable. And I would agree with you that you stand out from the crowd. A legend in your own mind maybe?
Friday, December 04, 2009 3:35:00 PM
If only you knew what you were talking about, I would even be funnier.
dead...
I thought you were the one who "fights" for topic adherence? You really are quite a laugh.
Saturday, December 05, 2009 9:40:00 PM
Remember, I have HLSS, I don't know any better. So where your ramblings take us, I must follow. Please have a good day, neighbor. Good luck, God Bless You, and ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
anonymous deadman...
Topic adherence please! Remember, HLSS can be easily self-cured. But you must find the courage to begin thinking for yourself and stop seeing your fellow man as evil and dishonest. Paranoia is another symptom so often overlooked. My apologies.
You have a nice day and may God likewise bless you.
6:30 has it never occurred to you that some of our fellowmen are evil and dishonest, oh I guess you were just following the lead of the obama who had so much trouble accepting that "evil exist" when questioned by pastor Rick Warren.
greasy...
Has it ever occurred to you that you are not nearly as smart as you might think you are? And get off this obama kick with me. I have nothing but disdain for liberals, but I'm seriously considering going independent if I have to be affiliated with those in the GOP who think they are so much smarter than everyone else.
Please tell me what you see when you look in the mirror. Is it perfection? I really would like to know.
I already told you when I quoted Mac Davis, "It's Hard To Be Humble When You're Perfect In Every Way". As for looking in the mirror I'll quote another great orator who said "I can't wait till tomorrow cause I get prettier every day", Joe Namath.
I welcome you to the land of independent politics, me and Sarah are delighted. Look YOU are the only one who has claimed I was smarter than everyone else not me, I just try not to be as dumb as some others prove themselves to be.
greasy...
Hilarious. Get over yourself.
Friday, December 04, 2009 6:03:00 AM
It would make a difference if you used an alias so we wouldn't think you are the only one posting anonymous.
TN
7:31
Believe me when I tell you that I am not the only one who posts in opposition to the mud-slinging, name-calling, and belittlement that routinely takes place on this blog by a very small and vocal minority of Giles Countians. You know, I could make the same assumption about your anonymous post, couldn't I?
Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:32:00 PM
But if you would let us know who you are in some way. At least call yourself, "Holier than Thou", or maybe "The Giles Gem; or The Brilliant One". How about, "The Opinionator - or Opinion Hater". Something quaint that we can recognize, so we can ignore you.
dead...
Turned over any "new leaves" lately? No, I knew you couldn't do that. You have too much fun trying to belittle those who disagree with status quo on this so-called free speech blog. That's cool.
As for a name to use here, I suppose I could sign off as "Opposing Viewpoint" or something of that nature. But I'll not play that game. It's childish.
Besides, you need to accept the fact that I am not the only voice out there who takes people to task when they call names and do their best to absolutely ruin others.
Dig this. We have an electoral process to remove unsavory officials and a criminal justice system to handle those who are breaking the law. It's just that simple, isn't it?
I was going to post something witty and insightful, but you wouldn't be able to understand it anyway. The fact that you won't identify yourself is the childish thing. Thank you for demonstrating your true colors. You have no desire to improve anything in Giles County, you just want to deride those who are trying to make a difference. We may not always make the best decisions, but at least we are trying. "In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right thing. The next best is the wrong thing. The worst thing you can do is nothing." -- Theodore Roosevelt. You are doing the worst thing, neighbor. I know everything you are going to say now, it will be all of your usual rhetoric. Please feel free to speak anyway, I am done playing your childish game. When you can distinguish yourself from your pack, we can talk. Enjoy your day neighbor.
dead...
Since you have already distinguished me from others who post anonymously, what difference does it make if I sign off as this or that?
I stand by what I said and have nothing to add. It would be futile anyhow.
dead...
Since you have already distinguished me from others who post anonymously, what difference does it make if I sign off as this or that?
I stand by what I said and have nothing to add. It would be futile anyhow.
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