School System Secrecy????
According to the "Pulaski Citizen" dated 16 March 2010 during a work session of the school board a recommendation was made that the school board adopt the policy of not making public the names of donors making gifts to the school system.
To withhold this information would not only be a violation of the state open records law but would open the door for those doing business with the school system to give kick-backs to those involved in negotiations. An example would be a milk vendor gives the school system a $10,000.00 gift a week later that same vendor is given a contract to supply milk and ice cream to the school system. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean there's any wrongdoing taking place but if this information isn't made public, well you can see the possibilities have greatly increased for wrongdoing.
Another example might result in special treatment of an individual. Would it be possible to buy a position on a sports team or academic award if the parents made a large monetary donation to the school?
I fear if this policy is adopted by the school board and secrecy is allowed to cover the activities and contributions of businesses and individuals the possibility for abuse is too great to justify. All gifts and the givers should be made public so there can be no questions as the the appropriateness of business being conducted by our officials. Allen Barrett
To withhold this information would not only be a violation of the state open records law but would open the door for those doing business with the school system to give kick-backs to those involved in negotiations. An example would be a milk vendor gives the school system a $10,000.00 gift a week later that same vendor is given a contract to supply milk and ice cream to the school system. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean there's any wrongdoing taking place but if this information isn't made public, well you can see the possibilities have greatly increased for wrongdoing.
Another example might result in special treatment of an individual. Would it be possible to buy a position on a sports team or academic award if the parents made a large monetary donation to the school?
I fear if this policy is adopted by the school board and secrecy is allowed to cover the activities and contributions of businesses and individuals the possibility for abuse is too great to justify. All gifts and the givers should be made public so there can be no questions as the the appropriateness of business being conducted by our officials. Allen Barrett
posted by Allen Barrett | 10:36 AM
46 Comments:
Afraid that the rebate will become knowledgeable of breaking the law.
Yep. I guess you are talking about the Alsup Ins. agency rebate that is made to the school dept? Can only assume the school board is trying to pass this policy to cover Alsup?
Hasn't this "sinister" situation been about talked to death previously?
Not board but director. Board would like to use money for things that students could use and need feed Tee and his little followers. Ask previous board members how fat they got off the Alsup fund.
This type of secrecy does seem to reek of impropriety. Unfortunately this seems to be nothing new for Giles County. I am not a native of Giles but I have lived here since I was three years old and I know this type of activitiy has gone on for a long time. Since the more elite have usually been involved, these things have been swept under the proverbial rug.
If anyone seems to object then those in the "know" tell us to "mind our own business".
Elites? Are we having a fit of class envy? If you are so unhappy with the way things are, you can always move somewhere else where you will be more appreciated. Don't you think?
No I chose not to leave but to stay here and try to make a difference. I may not have made much progress but I can see the effect of some of my efforts. Have you made any efforts toward improving society---have you seen the results????
God help us all to try to right the wrongs of our society---whether we cause them or not.
G.L.U.
3:42
No, I choose to be a law-abiding (not saying you aren't) citizen who doesn't run around town calling people names and making accusations. If I don't like an elected official, I use my voting right to help get them out of office. I also use my vote in an effort to stop those who don't meet with my approval. I think that's the actual democratic process. I don't have to justify myself or beat upon my chest and proclaim myself a champion of righting wrongs.
5:07:00 PM
When we find out who you are, I bet we could ask around town if you ever said anything against WAB and the answer would be YES.
You have a right to say things against him, just don't pretend you don't.
I wish everyone in Giles County could be as perfect as you.
If I have broken any laws 5:07 then you should turn your evidence over to the proper authorities then butt out, isn't that your mantra along with HLS
boloney. Allen Barrett
WAB I have a question? Sorry if this is not the right place, but did not know of another way to contact you. Why and how does Pulaski Elem.receive a list of people who are in the process of or have just recently filed bankrupcty or divorce? What business is it of theirs to know this info? This is a list of some people who have no children in school system? I just found this out last week & was just curious. Thanks in advance for your replies.
9:10
When "WE" find out who I am? Look, I have a right to my opinions, even if they are in opposition to what you guys think. I have never accused anyone of the things I see on this blog. Never. I simply point out where that is wrong. We both know that, and this is why you are upset with me.
You remain delusional 7:25. People are upset with you because you are a stupid, cowardly liar.
March 21, 2010 7:25:00 AM
Where do you point out what is wrong? You critize the person that said it. Never why what they said is wrong.
Most of the time businesses get a bulletin from the Better Business Bureau. Sad thing is businesses get them and make it everybodies business.
8:12
No, people like YOU are upset with me because I have the guts to take you to task when you call people nasty names (as you just did me) and smear and belittle those you don't like. THAT is the problem. Who started all this mess? Care to guess? By the way, that is all I have ever pointed out.
There is sure one thing that you know how to do well and that is to lie. You are a sanctimonious liar that likes to hide behind religion when you are backed into a corner.
2:09
Please enlighten me. What lie did I tell? And I don't hide behind my religion.I will go a step further and say than nobody should pretend to be so religious and treat others like they were demons. That goes for me, you, and everybody else. Would you agree?
hummmm, didn't Jesus cast out demons from some folks, well they had to be acting like demons before they were cast out. So they had to be treated like they were demons in order for those demons to be cast out. But don't worry 4:44 someday they will be cast out of you, getting the stupid out may take a lot more effort.
what is HLS boloney?
7:24
But it's not acceptable for me to mention anything about those whom I think behave as demons? And according to you, are those possessed by demons the ones who disagree with what you guys are doing? Horsehockey!
to 4:44 and 6:31
When one considers a lie to be the intentional expression of things untrue then you have lied, intentionally misled and mis-characterized me. In fact under that definition you have even lied about yourself.
One example is you continued to spread information you claimed to be from "a reliable source" about Knox County having "problems and attempting to do away with their charter. Even after that source was proven to be unreliable and that there was no such effort underway you continued to spread that untruth. You have accused me of being; un-Christian, un-willing to pray others, a trouble maker; and many things unworthy of a response.
Yet you have denied your own culpability in enabling wrongdoing, corruption and the support of those engaged in such actions.
You have attempted, in my opinion the lowest form of insincerity, to cloak yourself in righteousness and religion (mostly man made not God made)in your condemnation of others and self elevations. You remind me very much of those in Mark 5 who pleaded with Jesus to leave their area after he had driven the demons out of the man possessed. They also preferred the ease of dealing with demons to the difficulties of facing and defeating demons. Allen Barrett
6:31 Demons are a myth as if your vivid imagination.
wab
I never accused you of being un-Christian, but I did question your behavior in terms of how Christians treat others. I offer my opinions, and I thought that was my right. I did suggest a time or two if it would not be better to pray for rather than condemn people. I never said you were unwilling to do that.
There you go again accusing me of enabling wrongdoings and corruption. That is simply not true.
You say I remind you of people mentioned in Mark 5, while refusing to consider things God hates as found in Proverbs or Psalms. Sorry, but I don't have my Bible in front of me, or I would cite for you the exact scriptures.
I hope this has cleared up some of your misunderstandings.
Horsehockey is the same as horse s--t.
Now yell because I said a bad word and claim you didn't.
5:30
So are excrement and feces, but you don't have to use vulgarity to describe them.. I hear horsehockey used quite often (even by Colonel Potter of MASH fame), but I rarely hear people running around using the word you mentioned...other than those with potty mouths.
To 4:45 Sir you not only have questioned my Christianity you have questioned my legitimacy to be a minister and accused me directly of not praying for "those I dislike". You have claimed to know the most intimate parts of my heart and reasoning along with my very motivation for practically every action. Each of these things can easily be looked up on various postings by you cut and pasted to this thread and once reveal you to be a hypocritical liar, but that would really be a waste of time as you in your usual way would deny it was you or you meant something else.
You write, "You say I remind you of people mentioned in Mark 5, while refusing to consider things God hates as found in Proverbs or Psalms. Sorry, but I don't have my Bible in front of me, or I would cite for you the exact scriptures."
What I actually said was, "You remind me very much of those in Mark 5 who pleaded with Jesus to leave their area after he had driven the demons out of the man possessed. They also preferred the ease of dealing with demons to the difficulties of facing and defeating demons." Not having your Bible there with you and not knowing the verses you speak of, this information is when your own post, I would expect you to remain quiet in that area until you know more about what you're talking about but of course if we waited until you knew what you were talking about we would not be reading any more post from you now would we? Allen Barrett
8:49
It's so much fun angering you.
What smart are you saying about the thread on the fire fighters?
Something cute I'm sure.
5:30 & 8:49 Those words shouldn't be used on this blog. Too much like children.
If there isn't enough for you to do on the farm, I'm sure you could volunteer at something.
You must be retired to be on this blog so much.
wab
You would "expect" me to remain quiet in those areas? What a laugh. Well, since I didn't have my Bible in front of me, let me just say that I was referring to some of the things God hates, among those feet that are swift to mischief and those who stir up strife. Just because I didn't have my Bible with me does NOT mean that I am ignorant of what It says.
It seems to me that it's perfectly acceptable for you to call people names and to make accusations about them, but it's wrong for anybody to question you? You know, if you're going to play this game, you ought to expect pretty much what you yourself dish out. Isn't that fair?
I can see right now that you are one of those people that pick out just certain words from the Bible to say whatever you want them to say. My advice to you is read the whole thing and I think you will get a different meaning.
6:24 if you would take the time and read Prov 6:16-19 which is a group of six things the Lord hates you would see that it's not only about swift feet but a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, heart that devises wicked plans, false witness who speak lies and one who sows discord among brethren.
So if one applies to WAB as you claim how about applying the two about lying to Vanzant, and the heart that devised wicked plans to yourself as you have defended wicked behaviors by defending wrongdoing and trying to make it seem right.
9:57 By you trying to make snide remarks about farmers, how about you just quit eating or wearing anything that come from the farm.If you worked one tenth as hard as farmers, you would not be posting as much.
I'd really like to see a horse hockey match. Suspect it would be quite interesting. Horses on ice skates, wood sticks, pucks and nets. Now we're talking fun!
9:40
Oh, I am quite familiar with those things pointed out in Proverbs. Interestingly, four of the six abominations are because of the tongue. Would you agree?
3/21/10 12:32 pm You state you have the "guts" to take people to task when according to your standards they are not behaving in a proper manner?-Ma'am or Sir, Exactly how much "guts" does it take to post an anonymous "scolding" on a public blog? i would sincerely like an answer, if you would be so kind as to elaborate.
4:44 pm of the same date- You say you don't hide behind your religion??? I would have to agree with you there, you hide behind "anonymous".Just pointing out the obvious hypocrisy in those two posts, the issues long forgotten, but who can come up with the most clever retort is the game du jour.
William James
wab...
Why don't you just go ahead and put an end to all anonymous posts so the cry babies will be satisfied? An added plus would be that this will silence those who (at least on this blog) oppose you guys. Just a thought.
6:16:00 AM, I've noticed a few sign there name that disagree with you. It will only stop you. Then the rest want have o say anything, because you are who they come back at. What was the topic of this blog anyway?
7:33
Uh, I notice that you too are anonymous. What a joke. Why don't you sign your name?
7:55:00 PM
Because you don't.
Then stop whining about people signing as anonymous.
4:40:00 PM
I'll stop whining when you stop whining about HLSS and WAB.
Saturday, March 20, 2010 5:07:00 PM
You can disagree with a public official does and still be a law abiding citizen.
I don't approve of kick back in any form, leads to people thinking something is crooked whether it is or not.
Why give anyone reason to think something is going on.
I thought if anyone gave the school something they would want people to know it.
Not if it is kick back or rebate. /which it is and the DA doesn't seem to have the time to look into it.
There are too many secrets in the school system; more than the average person knows about.
I agree 11:15
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