Why Did Commissioner Lovell Declare The Giles County Chief Deputy Unreliable?
In the County Commission Meeting Monday 15 March 2010. Commissioner Lovell declared that the Chief Deputy of the Giles County Sheriff's Office was unreliable.
Commissioner Wilburn stated that the Beer License that had been issued to the "Stop and Chat" store was invalid because not only was it too close to the church in Campbellsville it was even closer to the Public Library in Campbellsville.
When Commissioner Wilburn stated the Library was within the 400 foot distance, that had been made the standard by County Executive Vanzant and used to justify giving the permit, Commissioner Lovell stated, without being recognized to speak, that it was not that close. Commissioner Wilburn then repeated that it was less than 300 feet and had been officially measured. Commissioner Lovell again blurted out, without being properly recognized to speak by the Chair, that the distance wasn't correct and demanded of Commissioner Wilburn to know "who measured it you". Commissioner Wilburn stated that the Chief Deputy had measured it then the, the Chief Deputy stepped forward and confirmed that he had measured it and the distant as stated by Commissioner Wilburn was correct, at which time Commissioner Lovell, again without being recognized to speak, declared "it's not true and I don't believe it".
It is an official duty of the Chief Deputy, when requested, to establish the distance between places seeking to sale alcoholic beverages and churches/schools and/or Public Meeting places.
The arrogance of tyranny continues. Allen Barrett
Commissioner Wilburn stated that the Beer License that had been issued to the "Stop and Chat" store was invalid because not only was it too close to the church in Campbellsville it was even closer to the Public Library in Campbellsville.
When Commissioner Wilburn stated the Library was within the 400 foot distance, that had been made the standard by County Executive Vanzant and used to justify giving the permit, Commissioner Lovell stated, without being recognized to speak, that it was not that close. Commissioner Wilburn then repeated that it was less than 300 feet and had been officially measured. Commissioner Lovell again blurted out, without being properly recognized to speak by the Chair, that the distance wasn't correct and demanded of Commissioner Wilburn to know "who measured it you". Commissioner Wilburn stated that the Chief Deputy had measured it then the, the Chief Deputy stepped forward and confirmed that he had measured it and the distant as stated by Commissioner Wilburn was correct, at which time Commissioner Lovell, again without being recognized to speak, declared "it's not true and I don't believe it".
It is an official duty of the Chief Deputy, when requested, to establish the distance between places seeking to sale alcoholic beverages and churches/schools and/or Public Meeting places.
The arrogance of tyranny continues. Allen Barrett
posted by Allen Barrett | 2:05 PM
67 Comments:
that is too funny!
That is EXACTLY what happend.
Wonder how long it'll be before you know who will start saying we are calling names?
Wonder why barrett would want to sit on the commission with people who can't stand him?
4:43 Doubt Mr Barrett gives a rat's butt what corrupted commissioners think of him. He's all for honesty and abiding by the laws, contrary to many in our local government.
4:43--Are YOU going to be on the commission? I daresay there are some on the commission who would welcome his support of their efforts to work for the people.
There is absolutely NO place in public office where all the people like each other. Look at what they do in Congress when it comes to major issues such as health care reform.
Way to go Mr Barrett .
There's too much pandering to selected commisioners in county meetings.
Time to vote the rascals OUT of office including their 'leader' who preaches Roberts Rules of meetings only when it suits her. She lets a select few do whatever they please while the 'rest' are whipped into line in a hurry.
You also have to ask 'where's the risk ' such that there needs to be 2 or three county deputy sheriffs in each meeting . Particularly if the gang of select commissioners declare publically that they dont believe what the seniormost lawman tells them .
The whole thing is a farce and an insult to the hard working people of Giles County who are trying to keep things together in these hard times .
I sure hope we see some major changes in seat-fillers after the august election . Time to vote the rascals OUT
Another illustrational that ole Janet cannot even hold a meeting together so how can we expect her to perform any better in other duties.
Lovell has GOT TO GO! He thinks he is above the law and thinks he knows more than anyone, including the duputy. Vote him OUT!!!!!
There needs to be an investigation about him making deals to get that road up there at Campbellsville paved along with him making deals with the store that he would see to it that they got a permit to sell beer. And that's not even in his district. District 4, who is he really representing?????
5:56
Such hatred. Do you realize that?
I think it's time Giles Countians vote the radicals OUT before they can figure out a way to get IN.. I'd rather have a rascal than a radical any old day.
I see the CAVE people (Citizens Against Virtually Everything) have really mounted an attack and smear campaign.
Commissioner Lovell is a good and decent person as well as a Bible-believing Christian, contrary to what CAVE and its leader has to say about him.
Yeah, OK, Charles Manson was a good and decent person as well. He was just alittle misunderstood.
CAVE is pretty funny. I think we need to identify you group as well. Let's call you group MUSHROOMS! And everyone knows what they say about mushrooms.....
7:20
Your hatred is going to give you ulcers and probably exacerbate your apparent mental problems. You scoff at the idea that Mr. Lovell is a Christian man while you lead cheers for wab. How can that be? Who appointed you the judge?
Actually, I do not have a clue what "MUSHROOMS" stands for. I was hoping you might enlighten me.
7:20
I almost missed your expository statement. You referred to "my group"; doesn't that necessarily imply that there is an opposing group? I thought it didn't exist? By the way, I have no group.
Sounds like kids on the playground who don't get their way. Awful.
I would put my trust in what the Chief Deputy said, not Lovell. He has proven in the past not to trust him. Think of the beer license fiasco that we probably haven't heard the last of.
GTC Says:
If I had to put my faith, life, family and posessions into the care of Commissioner Lovell or XChief Deputy Chapman .... Chief Deputy Tommy Chapman would be the one chosen. Chief Dupety Chapman is one of the most reliable, kind and thoughtful people in the County. He has brought a level of professionalism to the Sheriff's Office not seen in many years. He is a true asset to this County.
Well said 8:24.
7:26 said "You scoff at the idea that Mr. Lovell is a Christian man while you lead cheers for wab. How can that be? Who appointed you the judge?"
Let me ask you that same question 7:26 You scoff at the idea that WAB is a Christian man while you lead cheers for Mr. Lovell. How can that be? Who appointed you judge?
On the subject of mushrooms it's not what they are but how they are grown that the writer applies them to you. Mushrooms grow best when they are kept in the dark and fed horsepoop, and that sure applies to you.
Janet is as great with the gavel as Mike Young is with the gavel at school board work sessions.
Yep, I do scoff at his Christianity. Just as much as he would Mr. Lovell and , lest we forget, Mr. Reedy. By the way, I think Mr. Reedy is a fine example of what Christianity is all about.
3:59 so you see no problem with you judging Barrett's Christianity but a big problem in someone judging Lovell's. Glad there's no hypocrisy in your head.
By the way how did Mr. Reedy get into this subject? Didn't I read on here where Mr Reedy was in a conversation with Mr. Barrett when Jackson attacked Barrett? Oh, maybe Mr Reedy is one of the invisible group?
5:09
Not at all. I never mentioned barrett's Christianity until he or someone questioned Mr. Lovell's. And Roger Reedy is just another past victim who had his Christianity questioned by the CAVE people.
So what's fair for one is fair for all, wouldn't you think?
You are an out and out liar. You have questioned his Christianity several times. You even commented that he should not be a minister. If that is not judging, Please tell me what it is.
It's okay, the rules for the MUSHROOMS are completely different than the ones they hold us to.
7:02
That's a lie. I've never said that he shouldn't be a minister, although I tend to agree. I've never seen one behave as he does. And please, don't go saying I am the only one who can see this.
Let me ask you a question. Do you believe the Bible where it says to mark those who cause division among you? How about some things God hates (e.g. feet that are swift to mischief, a proud look, being contentious and causing strife, etc,)? Not being a peacemaker? By their fruits ye shall know them? I cvould go on and on, but you surely get the picture.
Would you say that a man who abuses his wife and children is abusive? Would you logically conclude that people sitting around the waiting room of a doctor's office are ill? Of course. We make "judgments" all the time based on what is observable. Think.
9:26
Who is the "us" you refer to?
Folks, please get back on topic. Its about Lovell's behavior and attitude toward others as he holds public office for District 4.
Maybe the county commissioners could club together and buy Lovell an engraved tape-measure as his going-away memorial when he loses his seat in the upcoming election . Then he could measure his own follies
Sir Veyor
Mr. Lovell and Stoney Jackson needs to bridle their tongues. That was a huge insult to the Chief Duputy Sheriff that day and if I were the Sheriff's Dept. I wouldn't let that happen again. Stoney Jackson used to do Eddie Bass the same way in Commissioner's meetings. This is two of the worst, arrogant Commissioners that in on our Commission. That is besides Bill Holt who throws temper tantoms on ball fields.
By reviewing various news outlets I have failed to see where the county commissioners addressed the neglect of charged responsibility actions of commissioners Adams & Howell.
I assume that by adding two members to the beer board the court will now be charged with placing four new members on the board. Is this correct?
Howell & Adams neglect? Didn't they vote no on the beer permit issue~outvoted 3-2?
You may be right 10:21 but I thought it was reported that they didn't sign anything. If that is true then the official vote was 3-0. It is my understanding the board has two options. Yes or no. If they failed to sign either then they should be removed from responsibility due to non-conformance of their required duties.
Bill Holt will be the first one to tell you he has a temper and he is also man enough to admit when he is wrong. Thats more than some.
Bill Holt may in fact have a temper. Don't we all at times and especially when provoked. If he showed his rear end on the ball field, I can attest to the fact that he is not the only one who has done that in thew past. But of course some people will deny that fact.
It wasnt only Bill Holt's temper tantrum on the ball field but foul mouthed language as well.
I would suggest to you that there have been several foul-mouthed posts made on this blog. And that's shameful.
Yes, its shameful. But Bill Holt both as a school principal and county commissioner should set a better example. Plus the folks exposed to the ball park incident had no no choice but to hear it whereas on this blog you dont have to read.
That could be extrapolated to other ball park events wherein someone shows his rear end.
Could someone tell me why Giles County Ambulance service needed someone else to collect their bills.
Can this company get blood out of a turnip? The ambulance picks up a lot of people that don't have money or insurance. How can you get money for the bill there.
They will have to be paid, want this cost Giles county more money?
Don't they have someone that sends out bills and keep up if they are not paid?
Understand I'm not saying anything against Roy Griggs, the sending out bills I understand if from the Garner's office not his office now.
They had three people working on ambulance accounts and Garner claims she will let one go (Phyllis) but she would prefer to keep her and can put her to use elsewhere!!!!!
Three people and they can't do the job. Do they have computers?
Of course they have computers. Now the software we citizens bought will no longer be needed. More waste.
Hear Lovell is hanging out at the Campbellsville store now that he voted for the store to get a beer license, even though it was against the rule of the full commission. Strutting?
I once had a lot of respect for Edwin, but I have to say that what he did was inexcuseable!
Lovell has always been an arrogant person that thinks he knows more than anyone and thinks he is better than everyone. His true colors are coming out!
Voters in district 4 would do well to look at Lovells record while he has been on the county commission these long years. This is also the same commissioner, along with Stoney Jackson, who raves whenever a fellow commissioner dares to suggest they take a cut in pay. Lovell has also been heard to comment when leaving a meeting that may have gone on too long for his way of thinking, that he only made minimum wage on that one! Maybe he should try living on that or unemployment income as so many have to do in Giles county. Time for Lovell to go and please take Jackson with him. Two bullies to be sure with no regard for the people who put them in office.
Remember one thing,
Lovell never saw a tax he didn't like! Whenever he couldn't vote for an increase he was wheeling & dealing to get his wheel tax passed.
You make it appear that Mr. Lovell likes to raise taxes in order to put money into his own pockets. I just hope the readers understand why these atacks against him are going on right now (election time) and who is principally behind them.
Contrary to what the attackers say, Mr. Lovell seems to be a good and decent person who wants to do the right thing for Giles County. How do I know that? I know, because I've done some investigating on my own and do not accept what hateful people have to say. Neither should anyone else.
It's great that you did some investigating on your own but did you look into the matter of the beer board and how his friends are the only ones who benefited from his position and vote? Did you see where he has refused to even consider cutting the pay for commissioners during these hard times? He puts $60. for commission meetings and $30. for committee meetings even those he's not on are only attends the last few minutes of in his own pocket. Did your investigatons show he gets jobs with the county for his family and friends? Did you investigating show you what a mean spirited person he is who acts like a spoiled child when he don't get his way?
11:23
No, my investigation did not yield those findings. But I will say this. If I had to put up with the likes of you, I would be a lot more testy than you think Mr. Lovell is.
We both know what this is all about, don't we? It's election time, pure and simple.
7:47 Then you didn't do a very good job in your investigation! And if you think Lovell is such a fine man, why would an avid church goer vote against a decision made by his fellow commissioners, and allow a beer license (or does his denomination allow consumption of alcohol).
To get back to the original question ........"Why did Lovell declare the chief deputy unreliable " .....
Think on that plus all the other games he plays when you're voting in August . Unless he chickens out and doesnt run again ......in which case his friend Janet will surely give him a plaque paid for by taxpayers for 'Long and great Service " to giles County . But it'd be worth it to have him long-long gone .
T Rex
Yes...Lovell has got to go. 4th District voters look at the candidates running. You have a choice this time around. I understand there's 7 or 8 people running. Go 4th District. VOTE LOVELL OUT!!!
8:17
We both know what this attack on Commissioner Lovell is really all about, don't we? It's election time!
Lovell should have thought about his behavior in relation to election time. His problem.
T Rex
Love your post. You are thinking right on that one.
7:24
Have you considered the behavior or misbehavior of the unrelenting attackers?
3:49:00 PM
You are also an attacker and now I'm attacking you, makes me as bad.
5:12
Wrong! I simply point out the mean=spirited and well-planned attacks being carried out on this blog by (laughing here) a non-existent group. Attack me all you want. But you should be attacking the ones who are guilty of this.
5-32...Do you have faith in the Founding Fathers and their wisdom ?
To paraphrase a statement attributed to Ben Franklin in response to your trivial remarks :- He said something like "They who are not prepared to defend freedom (democracy ) dont deserve it "
What you apparently see as 'well-planned attacks..on this blog ' are easily seen by other citizens as attempts to defend the freedoms we are able to enjoy .
Maybe it's time for you to go back to studying "democracy 101"?
Demos Cratos
demos
Sorry to disappoint you, but I'll not be taking any political science courses anytime soon.
Well-planned attacks by a non-existent group? That's exactly what I said and meant.
You know what? Mr. Lovell is a deacon in his church and, in spite of what the character assassins have to say, is an honorable Christian man who tries to do what's right for the county. If you don't believe that, just ask some of the people who attend church with him. And he doesn't get on this blog and spew hatred and make retaliatory remarks as some tend to do. That tells me a lot about the character of Edwin Lovell. It also tells me that we could take a lesson from this man who has been absolutely crucified on this blog by certain individuals who SHOULD be ashamed.
But hey, it's election time, so what else might be expected? Here's an idea. How about doing unto others as we would have them do unto us? What a concept!
I honestly think the ones who are guilty of this drama are the ones who need to be run out of town on a rail and not the victims of their attacks. That's an opinion.
Lovell dont get on this blog because he dont use a computer. As for being a decent Christian man how come he voted the way he did to give a beer license so close to a church and library.
4:19
Well, why don't you do some investigating on your own as to why Mr. Lovell voted as he did and stop listening to the hate-mongering on this blog? You know, there may be more to the story. Oh, by the way, is it Christian of people to get on here and call names, make nasty accusations, and etc? HARDLY SO!
Again, I think the ones who need to be run out of town on a rail are those who are guilty of what I just mentioned.
Maybe not everyone professes to be Christian but Eddie Lovell does. Therein lies the difference?
8:12
Oh, but I beg to differ with you on that statement. There are those here who claim what Mr. Lovell truly has, but their misbehavior shows hypocrisy.
On all these blog topics, WE NEED TO SEPERATE CHURCH AND STATE.
Lovell and Vanzant want get my vote.
What hypocrisy we have here. If you do not want to support those who sell beer, then by all means don't support them and, by the way, you will have my respect in that decision.
But don't hide behind a holier than thou position that you are shocked, shocked I tell you, that beer is sold near the Campbellsville library that serves, what, 10 to 20 kids a week, if that, unfortunately; and then make 10 visits a week to Wal-Mart where beer is sold just a few aisles from baby formula, toys and sporting good equipment and where thousands of kids are seen on a weekly basis.
Come on folks, let's get real. Is this really what is important to Giles Countians in the midst of a horrible economy, 2 wars, and a declining education system?
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