Names Of Those Who Have Qualified For August Elections
Listed below are the names of those who have qualified for the elections to be held in August. Those listed with an asterisk are incumbents.
County Executive: Scott Stewart & Janet Vanzant*
Sheriff: Kyle Helton*
Circuit Court Clerk: Crystal Gibson Greene*
County Clerk: Carol H. Wade*
Register of Deeds: Kay Gibbons*
Trustee: JoAnn Townsend*
County Commissioners:
District 1: Roger D. Cagle; Bill J. Cary; Ramona M. Flacy*; Alfred C. Harris*; Janice Reece
District 2: David L. Bailey*; Stoney Jackson*; Tommy Pope*; Cheryl Vallance & Tracy D. Wilburn
District 3: David Adams*; Wayne Ashford; Rick Carpenter; Rose Marie Cartee; Tim Risner*; Okalene Walls*
District 4: Tommy Beech; Judy A. Laviana; Edwin Lovell*; Roger Reedy*; David E. Ross; James E. (Jack) Woodard*
District 5: Marcus Harney; Bill Holt*; Connie Howell*; Tommy Pollard*; Laura K. Warren
District 6: Rose Yvonne Brown*; Louise Falkner*; Berenetta Houston
District 7: William Allen Barrett; Tommy Campbell*; Vicki L. Coleman; Terry Harwell*
School Board
District 1: Doug Ead
District 3: Chris Morris; Mike Young*
District 5: Jim Greene*; Troy Teegarden
District 7: Jerry Bryant; Beverly Greene Murrey*
ELKTON CITY
Mayor: Payton Blade & Carolyn S. Thompson
Alderman: Jimmy D. Caldwell; Bill J. Cary; John W. Walden*; Roosevelt Whitfield*
LYNNVILLE CITY
Alderman: James Jason Dunnivant*; James (Jim) Green*; Thomas Stephen Ray*
MINOR HILL CITY
Mayor: Tracy Wilburn*
Alderman: Bernard Dalton; Scott Jarrell; Jack N. Norwood*
STATE PRIMARIES
DEMOCRAT:
25th Senatorial District:
Doug Jackson* & Jim Summerville
State House Of Representatives 65th District: Eddie Bass*
State Executive Committeeman 25th District: Richard H. Dunnavant
State Executive Committeewoman 25th District: Martha Shepard
REPUBLICAN:
State House of Representatives 65th District: Billy Spivey
State Executive Committeeman 25th District: Bill (Doc) Dockery; John Engles; Jim Looney
State Executive Committeewoman District 25: Betsy Engles; Mary Littleton
Posted by Allen Barrett
posted by Allen Barrett | 1:41 PM
239 Comments:
How do i find out what district I'm in?
also looking forward to your reaction to this morning's meeting.
If I could vote county-wide, here's some of the ones who would get my vote:
County Executive
Janet Vanzant
Sheriff
Kyle Helton
County Clerk
Carol Wade
Register of Deeds
Kay Gibbons
Trustee
Joanne Townsend
District 1 Commissioners
none
District 2 Commissioners
Stoney Jackson
Tracy Wilburn
Tommy Pope
District 3 Commissioners
Wayne Ashford
Rick Carpenter
District 4 Commissioners
Roger Reedy
Jack Woodard
Edwin Lovell
District 5 Commissioners
Bill Holt
Tommy Pollard
Marcus Harney
District 6 Commissioners
Rose Brown
Berenetta Houston
Louise Faulkner
District 7 Commissioners
Terry Harwell
Tommy Campbell
Vicki Coleman
TO: Thursday, April 01, 2010 5:58:00 PM
Not sure on the other Districts, but I totally agree with you on District 7.
Dittos for me on District 7 race.
To 5PM if you post your street name
or give me a call I will be glad to tell you what district you are in, you can also call the election commission at 363-2424.
My reaction to the Ethics Meeting this morning is posted under that thread.
Allen Barrett
5:58
Just wondering what you have against David Bailey and Cheryl Vallance in District 2?
Oh can't you tell, (April 1) 5:58 is for zoning. Why else would he vote for Lovell, Reedy, and Bill Holt. Because it's for sure he/she is not wanting true representation if they vote for any of those three. And they probably want to apply for a permit to sell beer in close proximity to a church or school and that's why they're voting for Stoney Jackson and Lovell. Oh yea, I guess he/she also wants a wheel tax.
8:55
I have nothing against David Bailey and Cheryl Vallance. Why would you infer that I did? I simply announced those I would definitely vote for if I could. What would you have against those I support? Vote for whomever you wish; I certainly will.
to 10:05
My views on zoning and wheel tax are none of your business. But since you mentioned "true representation", who would you support? Should I guess?
And that is none of YOUR business who I support 10:39. But you can rest assured it won't be Lovell and/or Jackson.
Good! Vote for whomever you please. I certainly will.
Waste of everyone's precious time speculating how you would vote in a district you can't vote in. How would you vote in the district you CAN vote in?
4:12
How I vote in my district is NONE of your business. I SAID those are the people I would vote for if I could vote for any of my choosing. I hope you will do the same.
10:39:00 PM
That wasn't even my District, but I knew David Bailey was a preacher and since you like to quote the Bible and David was already elected,what had he done wrong in his votes. He must of voted the wrong way.
As for Cheryl, I have no idea who she is, nor do I know Pope. I know Stoney and Tracy and have nothing against them.
But you posted who you would vote for so I wondered what was wrong with them.
You said you would vote for the one in my District that I have always voted for and probably will again. He was the only one I knew and he was the only one ever asked for my vote.
I don't have time to go to the meetings, so this blog, the radio or paper is all I would know about anyone.
With the privacy act things are not in the paper or radio.
How do I find out about the people running for any office? They don't come around and ask for you vote with time to talk with them like they use too.
When we have have an election for President or a Senator, the TV is full of news about them, both against and for them. That's just the way election time goes. So this blog gives things about the people running for office. I just wish it would tell something about everyone running, good and bad.
Please seek out these people (no matter what district you are in) and ask talk to them a little...then make up your mind, worst thing anyone can do at this point is just cast a vote because you've heard their name. ASK-EVALUATE-DECIDE~~~then vote! You may be surprised (nicely or not) about the demeanor, attitude, and stance some of the candidates have!
It really sounds idiotic for the people who post who they would vote for in each district, and then when questioned who they would vote for in their own district say "NONE of your business"!!!
10:10 the cowardly always blow the biggest wind then hide behind the barn when it time to toe the line. you have it exactly right idiotic describes the behavior perfectly.
10:00
It really is none of your business what district I am in. What difference does it make anyhow. But be assured that I will vote for those I mentioned previously...those who are in my district. My vote is none of your business.
My name is Doug Ead, and I am runnung for School Board in District 1. If you wish to contact me, call me.
Home 363-0872
Cell 309-9460
I will do my best to answer any questions you have.
Thank you.
Sorry, that should be running. My fingers got away from me.
Mr. Ead, you are not in my district although I wish you were. Since you are unopposed you will, of course be elected. Good luck to you. I have heard good things about you from friends who live in district 1.
Mr. Ead,I'm sorry you are not in my District. I admire you for posting on this blog. Good luck.
To 11:13
Why did you post who you would vote for if you could? You asked for what you are getting. Seems I like the word you.
5:16
I posted my opinion and the names of those individuals I would support. What's wrong with that? Am I not entitled to support whomever I please?
Someone a little bitter?
Why is Jerry Bryant running when he knows he isn't capable of handling money due to his situation on the power board.
Wow, Jerry Bryant has some serious confidence considering his most recent display of arrogance during the PES debacle. He seems like he would be a yes man to TJ and we don't need that!!
10:27
Who are the "we" you mentioned in your post? I suppose the attack dogs will be after Mr. Bryant now.
Folks, here are a few things you need to know (as I do) about Jerry Bryant.
He is a very conscientious and highly educated man who lives a clean and pure life before God. YES, he is a Christain and a gentleman. Is he perfect? Absolutely not. But he is a fine example of one who not only claims Christianity but shows it in his everyday life. He would never ever resort to the mean and nasty things you see going on here. In fact, I doubt that he even reads this mess. The one thing I would bet my life on is that Jerry Bryant is honest and is NOT the "yes man" the attacker accused him of being. He has my vote, my family's collective vote, and any others I can help him to get. He will be an asset to the Board, and "we" need people like him to be a part of it. I just regret that he didn't run for commissioner.
If Bryant gets elected Walgreens may as well close up shop. Heard they lost business after the PES hearings.
You heard? What a laugh. Did you conduct a survey or opinion poll?
No survey, several people I know have taken their business elsewhere. Business wasn't that great to start with except when they ran a special on candles and you cant keep a business afloat on that.
I agree Byrant is a good man but he is also a very weak leader, a yes man to Speer, a yes man to Holcomb and a yes man to T. Jackson. Even you must know what a mess was made of the electric system while he was chairman of the power board. Why do you think Speer put him back on the power board because he knew he would do what he was told with no questions asked.
A weak leader
Again, Jerry Bryant is a great example of what a true Christian gentleman is...and SHOULD BE! I believe there are some here who could use him as a pattern. Do you see him on here calling people names and accusing them of practically anything in the book? NO!
The attacker implied that Mr. Bryant isn't strong enough to stand on his own and that perhaps he might not even be smart enough to be on the Board. Poppycock! He didn't become a pharmacist by being stupid and by cheating his way through college. Think!
I'd just like to say that more people, including myself, should strive to be more like Jerry Bryant.
No one ever implied Mr Byrant wasn't a good man, an intelligent person and a good Christian but the evidence is overwhelming he has done a terrible job on the power board and has served as a yes man to mayor Speer and Mr Holcomb. Try an focus your attention on what he did on the power board and as chairman, the way he tried to conduct the public meetings on the electric company. Jimmy Carter was a good decent Christian man but a terrible administrative leader. Without an independent strong leader on the school board it will revert right back to being the Jackson puppet it was four years ago. Remember tthe statement "I only have to keep four people happy in the whole county"?
Wake up Mr. Byrant is a good man but a terrible weak leader who hasn't even been to a school board meeting.
8:34
Then you and I would strongly disagree about Jerry Bryant. He's educated, rational, and not a hot-head or troublemaker. I believe he would be an asset to the board. He will surely have every vote I can get out and muster for him.
It's you right to support and work for anyone you choose I just responded to your lack of examination of the terrible job he has done on the power board.... I notice you still have not addressed that issue.
Do you think he led the power board
properly or was he a yes man that simply went along with the massive waste in spending that was stopped in spite of his involvement? It 's a real simple question but doubt you will answer it since you seem to prefer talking about his Christianity instead of his actions.
12:43
My, but aren't we busy spewing this afternoon. Don't you have any Easter eggs to hunt?
I believe I have sufficiently addressed my impresions of Mr. Bryant. I don't see him in your light, and that means we have a disagreement.
So vote for whomever you wish. Please know that I will do the same. Get over it.
I am not 12:43 but it sure seems that you poster of the 1:36pm comment are the one with your drawers in a wad. Learn to deal with people having a different opinion than you. You are the one that needs to "get over it". You sound so childish. I guess in your view, you can take a stand and hammer your point to death and it is okay because you are defending the innocent, so you think. Anyone that has the opposite view than yourself hammering a point is called names on some occasions and accused of a number of things. You just don't like your friends being picked on. I truly believe that is what it all boils down to.
Wrong. I respect your rights to have opposing opinions, but what I DON'T respect is the name-calling and vicious (yes vicious) attacks made on others. But please respect my right to point that out when it occurs.
And No, I don't like to see anyone picked on by bullies, whether they be friends or not.
1:36:00 PM
Don't you have any Easter Eggs to hunt?
Excuse me...but I have not called any names here. You sound like a broken record. Why don't you take up collections for the homeless, feed the hungry or cloth the needy? Your efforts would better be served in those areas. Grown ups, especially elected officials are quite capable of defending themselves. If they are not, then they should not be in any public spotlight that leaves them open for criticism. You accuse me of lies? You better think again on that one. I base my opinion on facts and experiences and with that in mind, you have no idea how much you make yourself to be a fool if you suggest otherwise about me. No one is being bullied and if they feel as though they are, they have the same format to use to defend themselves as we do to criticize. Make note: I did say criticize, not name call or bully. If you wish to waste you time on your "Cause" to rescue those who are bullied then it really shows that you have no good use of your own time. Like I said, let the grown ups in the public eye defend themselves. Take your passion to help others and apply it to the above mentioned needy individuals.
I'm 1:36, and I didn't say you were calling names. I asked if you had any Easter eggs to hunt.
There are some very good candidates and some very good incumbents running for office. Some of the things that I look at when making my decision on who to vote for is what has the individual done in the past. In the 7th District Commissioners Campbell and Harwell, both very likable men I consider friends, but both have voted in support of unnecessary tax increase and/or budgets they knew or should have known were way out of line with income and need. Commissioner Campbell has been involved with the commission and voted for the largest property tax increase in the history of the county. He supports a wheel tax and strongly opposed the accountability brought by the Financial Management Act. He has continued to vote for budgets he has stated were bloated with waste. Commissioner Harwell has not attended committee meetings on a regular basis and has attended very few that he is a member of. How can you know what is going on if you are not there when the matters are being discussed? You can not effectively represent your district by merely showing up at Commission Meetings every other month and voting on matters you don't have a clue about. Taking the word of the County Executive instead of researching for yourself is being a puppet not a leader.
By no means does this apply only to the 7th District but the 7th is where I reside. I will speak about the records of other commissioners in different districts at another time.
The School Board is another example where independence and involvement needs to be a huge consideration when casting your votes. I support Mrs Greene in the 7th District not because Mr. Bryant is a bad person, in fact I consider him a very nice man, a good neighbor and a man whose character is outstanding. The reason I support Mrs Greene is because she has been involved, has lead the Board in much positive change, challenged the Director, stood up, even when it was unpopular, not only for the teachers but also the bus drivers, mechanics, cafeteria workers, custodians, and all the non teacher members of the school system including the students.
I have never seen Mr Byrant at a single School Board meeting and the leadership he displayed as Chairman of the Power Board was extremely lacking. Under Mr Byrant's Chairmanship, Mr Holcomb the former head of PES stated when seeking to put the city on the hook for $7,000,000.00, "It never occurred to us anyone would object".
Under Mr Byrant's Chairmanship the Power Board approved, without question, some of the most wasteful budget breaking policies one could imagine. PES has changed direction recently not because of Mr. Byrants leadership but because public opinion forced Mr. Holcomb to leave.
The need is to remove the "yes men and Yes Women" from the Board not put more on it.
Not all good men and women possess the qualities of a good leader. Leadership requires involvement, character, listening skills and decision making skills and strengths. Allen Barrett
wab...
So do you assume that you have all these leadership qualities? I'd cast my lot with Mr. Bryant any day. Why? Because I've never seen him behave as you do.
Not only do I know I have those qualities they have been proven in many instances, situations and under severely adverse conditions. I suppose you would be more appreciative of me if I had allowed a solid money making monopoly to teeter on the brink of bankruptcy; remained silent while doing the bidding of the mayor and taking trips and spending thousands of dollars on meals at ratepayer/taxpayer expense. Sorry but I have a greater responsibility to the taxpayers. Allen Barrett
wab...
I knew you would claim those qualities for yourself. I would call you a Pharisee of the utmost degree, but I don't get into calling names. I'm sure you recall how the Pharisee beat upon his chest proclaiming how great he was. Can you make any application to yourself? Do you understand what God has to say about the haughty spirit, the proud look, and those who are wise in their own conceit? Grab a good concordance and read up on these things.
I too feel a responsibility to the taxpayers and to Giles County in general. It's sad that there has become so much hatred and contention here, so I must support and vote for those candidates who are not a part of that mess.
Can't you discuss anything without bringing religion into it? Have you not heard that we are suppose to government and relition separate?
Sorry 7:20 there was no chest beating on my part, you asked a question and I answered it. It would have been dishonest to not have answered truthfully. If you would like I can show you a list of leadership schools I have graduated from, units I have led, multi million dollar inventories I have kept, leadership classes I have taught and awards I have received but that would be chest beating. I've been in Giles County since 1984 and there is no one I have ever talked with about what I did as a soldier other than the most superficial and generic answers to questions. Not because I am ashamed of what I did but because it was my job and I just did it the best I could.
It's not about a "haughty spirit or proud look or being wise in their own conceit". It's simply a great deal of satisfaction knowing what I have done and thus there is no need for me to seek any accolades from you are anyone else. God knows me far better than you and while you obviously think you can see into my heart, I'll defer to His decision.
Allen Barrett
wab..
Can you not see anything arrogant or egotistical about your making mention the the lofty credentials you have? I never said I could see into your heart, but you are right. God can. And He doesn't appreciate the haughty spirit and one's thinking more of himself than he ought to. Grab a concordance and read up on these things for yourself.
I wish 11:03 had any sense at all. How can a question be answered.....and then use those answers to project arrogance against the person. Please......again the subject is lost with distraction
11:03 dude you are one fine work of warped self deception. Can't you see that everytime you claim to know why a person does a thing you claim to know what's in there heart. Talk about arrogance dude you take the cake.
To 11:03 If you ask a person what kind of car they have and they tell you it's a Rolls Royce are they bragging are just answering your question? You asked Mr. Barrett a question and he answered it, there was no arrigance or bragging just a simple answer to your question.
You need to take a chill pill and start looking at things different than just thru your prejudices.
To 11.03 you need to spend as much time on research as you do on the blog being critical
Well, I see the cheerleaders are out in force.
Question. Why is it acceptable for the complainers to use mean-spitited attacks on select officials (aka victims or targets) and then considered critical when someone like me points that out? I've asked this question ebfore, but it fell on deaf ears.
to 12:50
Having someone tell you he drives a Rolly Royce is NOT the same thing as his being willing to brag about how great he is...not the car. I'll bet you would agree with that if I were the one telling you how great and wonderful I am. HAHA
Here's my comment about some of the commissioners. They go to every meeting just to get the income. Not to know more. Just to show up and get paid. I would like to see a list of commissioners and their pay this past year. I think it has turned into a pretty good income for some who loiter around the courthouse. Like Campbell and Jackson just about every time I go to do my banking.
Seems we may have lost some good commissioners just because of when the meetings are scheduled. If you work for someone other than yourself, it would be hard to serve on the commission. Course it seems to be easy if you work for the school system. They just leave the job taxpayers pay them to be on and go to the meetings. Retired folks can go. Every notice I see in the paper is during the work day. Seems the meeting schedule cuts out hard working folks.
About Terry Harwell I have bought my vehicles from him since he was at Pophams. Won't find a better feller. Best my wife and I can recall our family has bought nine cars and trucks from him since he has been at Murreys. Now I hear the Murreys don't want him to be a commissioner. Rumor about them is everywhere that they're trying to make it hard on him.
I plan to go see Bill Murrey. To tell him that I have bought my LAST vehicle from his family. If that is the type folks they are they won't get another Lincoln penney from my pocket. I ain't never bought a car from them because I liked him or any of the boys. My wife went to school with Mrs. Murrey and said she was a very nice person though.
I buy from people I trust and like. If what I hear is true about how the Murrey are treating Harwell they can write my family off as customers. Plan to tell others too.
Interesting to read last post. This was the talk this morning at my coffee drinking table. I hear Murrey men trying the same thing with Beverly. To force her not to run. If ever we need Beverly on the school board it is now. Hold onto your wallets if she don't get reelected. Can't imagine why JB wants on the school board. Like Jerry a lot. But didn't like his role in PES shenanigans. Seems he is easily led. Go Beverly! Maybe the Murrey men need to look in the mirror for their problem.
LMAO. So right 2:50 about mirrors. They've been their own worst problem for a looonnnnnnngggggggg time.
WAB, thanks for what you wrote about the ones running for election. I hope you write about the others. With my job and children I don't have time to investgate everyone. As you said:
"Not all good men and women possess the qualities of a good leader. Leadership requires involvement, character, listening skills and decision making skills and strengths."
I want my vote to be for the best person for the job. Wish I was in you District.
I guess I just got called your cheer leader. That's ok He/she cheer leads for Jackson and Vanzant.
In reading this blog it made me wonder how people hear and start things that may be true or not. One blogger made a comment about a business that was pretty rough. The thing is that two people that are in powerful positions in this county, not to mention any names (T.J. and J.V.) tried to put the screws to a board member by saying the particular business mention would be cause for board member to leave position because of a conflict of interest. Board members husband sided with her and told her not to resign things would meet CTAS guidelines for county to deal with business. It has been mentioned as well for board to go out of town to buy vehicles trying to get her to leave the board. She won't be bullied by them. I know her well enough to know she will stand her ground with the board and her husband. And I talked with Commissioner in question and he graciously left his job to campaign and the business needed his experience but they understood. They have a lot of respect for this commissioner and like him working for them. He ran because he wanted to without any hardships from his bosses. His last minute decision was influenced by a powerful lady saying how much he was needed and I feel her reasoning was he being the forth candidate will put Mr. Barrett in a tight squeeze for votes she is hoping.
6:33
You could be right, but I believe you are wrong about your accusation. However, I will tell you that there were some indiviudals out working to get a fourth person to run in barrett's district. I know, because I was asked if I knew of anyone who might be interested. I knew of nobody who would want to put up with the grief the VVM constantly gives elected officials.
At any rate, those individuals feel as I do (my opinion) that a fourth person in barrett's district means that he will once again go down in flames of defeat.
Why wouldn't Mrs. Vanzant hope barrett has a hard time getting votes...and I sincerely believe he will? Were you Mrs.Vanzant, would you want him sitting on the commission if he had talked about you the way he has her? Hardly.
Hopefully it won't matter what JV thinks considering that she may not be re-elected. I hate to rain on everyone's parade who is an WAB hater. But, he has gained more respect from a considerably large amount of Giles County citizens since his last attempt at running for office. I don't suggest anyone count him out. And, it is fact that Vanzant had a hand in getting Harwell to run for re-election. Period. Not surprising for Vanzant to scheme, lie and cheat to get her way but, I must say I certainly thought the Harwell's had more of a backbone when standing up to Vanzant. Terry's wife can not stand Vanzant. One has to wonder what this trio is up to. The difference between WAB and Janet is he presents facts and can back it with proof. Vanzant has proven herself to be a cold-hearted, deceitful and unethical person. She doesn't deserve the office she holds. Shame on her for how she has deceived a lot of good people. People that truly thought a lot of her and had every bit of faith in her. Shameful. Shameful indeed.
8:55
Perhaps Mrs. Vanzant appears cold-hearted, deceitful, and unethical to people like you and barrett? If your charges were even true, WHO COULD BLAME HER since she has to put up with such mean-spirited critics? Perhaps it's just a matter of your allowing hatred for her become a part of your thinking? HLSS maybe? I don't know. But you are wrong about Janet, contrary to what you've been told to think about her.
The word on the street is that Mrs. Vanzant will be re-elected. And she will if I have anything to do with it. You know, I have NEVER heard anyone say a vile word (as you and barrett do) against her, but I FREQUENTLY hear people laughing at wab and the non-existent group of complainers. So I would strongly disagree with you that he has gained respect from a "considerably large amount" of Giles Countians. That's just not true. I believe (my opinion) he has done more to cause trouble in this county than anything or anybody ever has, past or present! And you will see on election day just how right I am about that.
Did Mrs. Vanzant twist Terry's arm to run again for commissioner? She may have asked him to run, but I hardly doubt that she would be coercing him into running. I know for an ABSOLUTE FACT that there were those who asked Terry to run simply because of wab's being in the race. What's wrong with encouraging those we want to be in office and doing what we can to defeat the rest? Isn't that what you are doing? It sure seems like it. Well, all I can say to you is that you need to vote your conscience; I will do the same.
Why don't we dissect everybody who is putting their name on a ballot? Who twisted whose arm? Why is Betty running? Why is Bob running? Where do they work? Who do they sleep with? Who do they like and dislike? What did you hear them say about ten years ago? Why? Why? Why? Blah! Blah! Blah!
Fact is folks we live in the United States of America. People who meet the qualifications can run for office if THEY CHOOSE TO irregardless of all your whining about why or why not.
Is all this whining about Harwell running simply because Barrett wanted an automatic victory? Or Coleman? There are what? Three seats and four running? Sounds like an election to me. Vote for your choice of three and let the winners take a seat on the commission. And the loser? They can always run the next time and the next time. This is America. Even in Giles County Pulaski Tennessee.
8:55.
Where did you get your facts? Sounds more like fiction to me. Did you directly ask any of the "trio" you mention and try to discredit? If yes, tell us which one so they can call you out as a liar.
9:35
I would guess the writer got his or her facts from the chief Vanzant hater. And we all know who he is.
Look, Terry Hrwell is a good man and I believe the same of his wife. So why don't you just stop whining and accept that barrett will now come in fourth in a three man race?
Sounds like the commission may be mostly female this time. Three automatic women in district six. Flacy and Howell running again in district one and five. Walls campaigning in three. Other women running in other districts. Including one woman in district seven. I just point that out to say that Barrett is also running against a female in number seven.
Seems to me that T. Campbell is the 7th District Commissioner that is closest to Mrs. Vanzant. Believe you have got the wrong man. He's the one that stays in her office all the time. Could be he is the odd man out this time around.
1:16
I think wab is going to be the odd man out for the second time. Remember, he came in last in a four man race the last time. And he will be even more angry than he is already.
9:35 Think it fiction if you want. Makes no difference to me. I think it's funny to listen to someone who is either trying to cover up the truth or has no clue, try and offer an argument with what I have said. If nothing else, I get a good chuckle.
2:46
Why must there always be someone trying to cover something up. Why the constant whine of corruption? Why don't you start thinking for yourself and stop listening to the hate-mongering that rises from jealousy and envy?
Oh for shame is that all you can say 2:46? I am sorry your vocabulary is so limited. Maybe you could share why it is there is always a cover up?? Why don't you start thinking for yourself? Enlighten me and do tell who I am jealous of?? I will try and hold it together and not laugh when I hear your answer. But, I will make no promises.
5:52
I SAID the hate-mongering rises (or emanates) from jealousy and envy. I DID NOT say it emanated from you, now did I?
I am trying not to laugh at you for misunderstanding such a simple point.
May be you believe that because it applies to you 9:16. If there is jealousy there has to be a reason. I thought that my words were clear and point could be easily taken. Looks like you get confused easily. So what gives. It jealousy and envy weigh so heavy on your mind then you should be able to say for what reason. So, come on...inquiring minds want to know.
11:53
You know very well where the source of the hate-mongering started in Giles County. Now we have people at each others' throats ans battle lines being drawn. Are you a part of this divisiveness? If so, you too should be ashamed of yourself.
Exactly what good has all this drama done anybody in Giles County? I will answer that...NONE!
Oh come on. Surely you are smarter than that. Aren't you?
Did the jealousy or whatever you want to call it start when Jackson and the board wouldn't let Barrett and Winkle speak at the board meeting.
What was Jackson and the board afraid of?
8:39
No, the jealousy started before that meeting. By the way, barrett and winkles were arrested for misbehavior, pure and simple.
8:43
Court records and newspaper show they were arrested for Disruption of a Meeting, for which they were found Not Guilty.
When someone twists the truth it is hard to find what they say credible.
They were found not guilty? Do you think they were guilty anyhow? It's my understanding that they refused to be quiet after rpeatedly been told to stop.
O.J. Simpson was also found not guilty, but we all know he was.
Wednesday, April 07, 2010 9:59:00 AM
"but we all know he was"
You have finally put your foot in your mouth up to your knee. I may think OJ is guilty but he was found not guilty by a jury of his peers. He may have committed a horrible crime, but he was still found not guilty. Therefore he cannot be tried again. Mr Barrett and Mr Winkles were also found not guilty. However according to your post, you "know" they did it. They are guilty of what? Nothing. You need to re-evaluate your statements and figure who the real troublemaker is. You are always trying to "cause trouble" on this blog. I know, you are the fighter for the weak and opressed of Giles County. Please, stop, you are trying to stop free speech. By the way, if you ask someone their qualkifications to run for office and they give them to you, is that bragging or just factual? Hmmmmm.......
deadman
I haven't seen you on here spewing lately. You must have been out of town or something.
How do I know wab and winkles were guilty of misbehavior? Because there were plenty of people present who saw the fiasco. I understand that they would not be quiet when they were told repeatedly to sit down and be silent. Would you deny that?
You falsely accuse me of trying to stop free speech. What a laugh. If it were not for a few like me, there would be no opposition whatsoever on this "free speech" blog.
What happened on that day actually smells like contempt to me. And I would guess that wab had plenty of that to go around. Yes, they were found not guilty, but that doesn't mean they were innocent, does it?
You falsely accuse me of only wanting to cause trouble on this blog. Wrong. It's only perceived as troublemaking by you guys.
4:22
Nice..because they would n't "sit down & be quiet" when they had a "right" to speak they are troublemakers/...?
And also you said if it weren't for you, there would be "nobody" to oppose views on this blog.......are you kidding? Why would you or anybody debate/argue/be offended by the truth? Who wants a "champion" of untruth? Guess you are a Hero aren't you? That post was probably the most telling about the way things work in your mind---it's ok to disagree, but debating with someone who wont aknowlege fact never works out~
4:43
Well, somebody in charge at that meeting felt they were troublemakers. I believe they were. Sorry if you don't want to hear that, but I have a right to my opinion, based on what I heard from more than one.
Question. What would you do if you were in court and the judge asked you to have a seat and be quiet? Would you keep on standing and talking? Surely not.
What I SAID is that if it were not for a few LIKE me. I didn't say I was the only one who opposes the mean-spirited attacks that are in abundant supply on this blog. Would you agree with me on that?
Oh, by the way, I wasn't talking to you in the first place. Or, are you dead's spokesperson when he's away from his computer?
5:35
It is obvious you were not at that school board meeting, "based on what I heard". I was, front row seat. They stopped talking when told by officer. Listen to tape and you will know, as did the Jury, that Gonzales did most of the disrupting. The meeting resumed shortly, ended, a break taken, another meeting took place and after it ended arrests were made. If they were so disruptive why would the police officers allow them to sit through both meetings and only stop them as they were leaving the last meeting?
Now, isn't this topic about Candidates?? You come on every thread stirring up trouble and getting off topic so people can't have constructive discussions. Sound like a disgruntled ex-elected official or one close to one.
5:35 All your "knowledge" is based on "what you have been told, or what you have heard". Never based on attending a meeting yourself and getting the true facts.
Then you liken a meeting to being in court. Ha! Ha! Your friend ole Janet likes to think she is a judge. Still refers to the commission meeting as "county court" which Mr Barrett told us eons ago that was abolished in the 1970's. Since you are so close to ole Janet how about clueing her in so she dont continue to show ignorance.
Sounds like the courts must be crooked if they were guilty, but the courts said not guilty. Is that what you are saying?
What an terrible mean spirited person you are for attacking a person because they lost a n election that you didn't even have the nerve to enter. No matter how many were in the race or how many won each should be congratulated for their effort not belittled because they lost.
You'r not only a mean spirited person but like so many have said you are a cowardly hypocrite that apparently has no principles or class. Shouldn't even you consider that elections should be won or lost on issues? Mr Barrett along with a number of other people lost races in fact I think there were more who lost elections that actually won them. For myself just seeing the way you have treated Mr Barrett and the fact that he has the integrity to sign his name to his writings gives me a much better
sense that he is the best candidate
By the way I was one of the people Janet told four years ago that she was a single mother raising a special needs child and would be unemployed if she didn't get reelected. That sure was a lie if there ever was one told.
9:44
You know very well what I was saying; are you just trying to be cute?
To ann...
You call me mean-spirited because I challenge people like barrett for attacking those of his or her choosing? Are you serious? No, they are the mean ones. I just point it out.
As for what was discussed between you and Mrs. Vanzant, I have no idea. I could speculate and say that perhaps she felt (at the time) that she was going to be a single mother and for what could be one of several reasons. I don't know. Actually, you don't really know for sure either. Yet, you gladly join the attack and call her a liar!!! Then you call me a mean-spirited person? Ridiculous!
All I can say to you is that there's a host of many people who will be voting for Mrs. Vanzant, and I am one of them. Do you ever ask why Mrs. Vanzant, Mr. Jackson, Mr. Lovell, Mr. Reedy, Mrs. Wade, Mr. Holt, and several others do not get on this trashy blog and defend themselves? They don't stoop to that level. But I will!
6:35 Oh, but they do!
6:45
Who knows? Maybe they do. Maybe some do. Do you know for sure? What difference does it make anyhow? Do you just want to be argumentative?
The targets (victims) of the unrelenting attacks are very much aware that they go on here and who is principally leading the charge. But again, the ones that I know (the victims) will not lower themselves to respond to the names and accusations.
6:54 I know for sure.
8:45
Ok,you have a right to your opinion as do I. My vote then for Mrs.Mrs. Vanzant remains unchanged. I know for sure one reason why she felt like(at the time) that she would be a single mom. Think what you will.
Is the county really doing ok with Mrs. Vanzant running it? She has had 8 years to do something. Name something significant that she has done?
9:47
I see that you have fallen hook, line, and sinker to the hate-mongering. Do you even know where it came from? Would you care to guess?
9:47
Furthermore, I believe Mrs. Vanzant is doing her job for this county, contrary to what you and the other attackers have tried to do. Who do you think is primarily responsible for this hate Mrs. Vanzant campaign? Again, care to guess?
Just because I vote against someone doesn't mean I hate them. I just may not like their policies. I hope when if I get elected, you are as nice to me as you are to Mrs. Vanzant.
dead
If you are running against Mrs. Vanzant, I don't see that happening. And yes, I'd be as nice to you as you would allow. That's the best anyone can do.
well, 10:10 we are waiting for you to enlighten us on what great things our current county executive has done for our county. I imagine this is where the dialogue will end with you or you will hastily try and change the subject. But, the fact remains, you still haven't made us all aware of what good things have come from Vanzant over the past 8 years. The ball is back in you court. Just answer the question.
To 6:35 Look I said you were a men spirited person because of the way to have treated Mr Barrett about losing the election. You have not belittled anyone else because they lost. As I pointed out more people lose elections than win them and no one friend or foe should be belittled for having lost at least they had the courage to try which is more than I can say for you.Whether I agree with Mr Barrett or not has nothing to do with the simple fact he has more integrity than you and most because he is willing to sign his name to what he write.
As for Mrs Vanzant I loved her at the senior house and voted for her the first timebut she just hasn't lived up to her promises. I did not say she told me she was "going to be are might become" a single mother I said she told me she was a single mother and her son was in the car waiting for her at the time. Now I may be old but I know the difference between being a single mother and might become one.
This is not second hand information she said right on my front porch, "I am a single mother of a special needs child and without this job I don't know what I'll do". Now if she has been divorced and is a single mother I will apologize for what I said but so far as I know she just lied to me. I couldn't care less who you vote for I'm just telling you what she said to me and why it wasn't true then are now.
2:36
Would you mind telling me who the "we" is you are referring to? I'm sure it's a huge multitude of people of like persuasion. Right?
to ann...
I resent your erroneous accusation that I am meean-spirited in reminding barrett that he lost before as I believe he will again. I recall his being mean-spitited on many, many occasions, but let's just confine our discussion to his being defeated in his first bid for county commissioner. Unless I dreamed it, he made a statement that he hoped an individual would come in fourth in a three man race. Wouldn't you say that was mean-spirited? I would. Ironically, guess who came in fourth? It was wab. So please don't compare my integrity with his.. I feel just fine about who I am, and I certainly do not run around town trying to harm anyone. I would call that integrity. And, although I'm sure you would disagree, wab invites criticism because of his behavior.
Let me say something about your statements concerning Mr. Vanzant's claim that she was a single mother. A few years back (I think four or more years), I understand that she and her husband were estranged. I'll bet you didn't know that, did you? I believe it was a separation, but the marriage wasn't dissolved. So, YES, she may have fully thought she was a single mother at that time. If that be the case, she certainly didn't lie about it. Had you been in that situation, would you want everybody in town knowing your business? Of course not, and I think it's a bit mean-spirited of you to continue with this. Have you ever had problems in your life or made any mistakes? I believe you would do well to mind your own business.
5:39 Being "estranged" and being single or two totally different things. Besides, Janet & Joe never were estranged. She just used that excuse so folks would believe she lived on E College in Pulaski while her husband lived in Lincoln county. They actually lived together in Lincoln county at the time she was telling prospective voters she was 'single'.
Thursday, April 08, 2010 6:35:00 AM
I spoke my opinion as you do, and I am "spewing"? How hypocritical are you? Please, where does your hatred of me come from? Are you suffering froma lack of self-respect? Is this why you are so down on everyone else? Is this why you must take all positive things and twist them into your own evil end vile little view? I wish you would seek help from your Pastor for this difficulty. If you need professional help I know several good psychiatrists and counselors. I also know of a pastor on this blog who would be perfectly willing to assist you in your time of need. Please don't let this hate burn up your heart. Please seek help immediately.
8:36
That's just not true. If you want to try and ruin or hurt Mrs. Vanzant, why don't you try something else? Shame on you!
to dead...
Yes, I mant exactly what I said about your spewings. Go back and read your 4-7-10 post at 2:42 p.m. if you have forgotten. And that was one of your milder posts.
I think you are the one who needs psychiatric help. But, of course, you would be too proud to admit that you have fallen, hook, line, and sinker, to all this mess going on in Giles County.
7:44 you are the one who needs psychiatric help if you have fallen victim to feeling sorry for Janet Vanzant. Unless of course you are her. Too bad for her she is not going to have an easy election year. So many citizens ready to see her go permanently back to Lincoln Co. where she lives.
Friday, April 09, 2010 7:44:00 AM
I reread my post and I believe what I said was accurate and insightful. You read hate into it. I just brougth up the fact that you said that you "knew" that OJ was guilty, thereby implying that Mr. Winkles and Mr. Barrett were guilty also. Even though all parties were found not guilty. You were "spewing" your opinion about them, disrespecting them. You continuously do what you charge others with doing. I am a free thinker, and have no clue what HLSS is and refuse to recognize it's validity. It has no meaning to anyone, except you. Allow me the right to think for myself, and interpret the information I read. You have no idea who I am, but give me enough credit, that I can understand both sides of an issue and then make an informed decision own my own. I don't need anyones caustic diatribes to try and annoy or insult me. Thank you for your information, but stop being what you accuse others of.
dead
So it's ok for people like you to insult others but Heaven forbid that anyone should comment about it? You have insulted me on various occasions, but that's acceptable? Garbage!
I would still like to know what powers you have thta allow you "KNOW" that others are guilty? Are you annointed? Precognitive? Telepathic? Speak to dead people? Or do you just talk out of your _________? You can fill in the blank. I don't want to be accused of something I didn't do.
dead
No need to fill in YOUR blank. Anyone with a brain knows it is just a vulgarity.
How do I know? I have had several people tell me what went on and what a spectacle they made of themselves, even after they had been told to be quiet. It was contemptable, and, if what these eye witnesses said was true, they were in fact guilty of misbehavior.
You are wrong 1:10 ow. I was there at the meeting from beginning to end. I suggest you stop ranting what you know nothing about and prevent any further embarrassment of yourself. All you have to go on is secondhand information. Again, you were not there. As I recall there were quite a few at that meeting and the only ones that though WAB acted out of line were a few select school board members, jackson and braden. That is to be expected. There was no misbehavior. This is all just nonsense and it is pointless to argue with and idiot.
Once again, how do you "KNOW"? You told me how others know. You told me what you heard. You told me what your opinion is. Once again you have proven that you "KNOW" nothing. You only operate on rumor, assumption, supposition and innuendo. I left the blank to see what you would say. Once again you "KNOW" nothing, because anyone with "a brain" and class would have come up with a word other than a vulgarity. Just goes to show you, you are exactly what you claim to be fighting.
dead
Yes, it WAS vulgarity, and you know it. Otherwise, why didn't you just spell it out? You know, Perhaps I should apply to my conversing with you the last sentence 1:47 made in his or her post.
dead...
One final thought...and I know you will have your usual rebuttal. How do you know that Hitler committed suicide?
I don't. I know what others have researched and said are fact. That is all you can go on with history. Enjoy your day neighbor.
By the way, you now presume to "KNOW" what I do. But if EAR is vulgar then I am guilty. Once again you made an assumption. Go figure.
Of course I am going to have a rebuttal. As will you. I love it when you play this baiting game. You are a master of it. That is why you are such a master of what do you call your little club? Oh yeah, the HLSS Klatch.
TO: April 8, 5:39 p.m.
re: your remarks to "Ann", As this is a public blog, not a private email, I am taking this opportunity to respond to one of your statements. If that is a problem for you then I would suggest you create a medium to respond anonymously to whomever you choose in a private form.
That disclaimer being said, let me say emphatically that I seriously doubt that anyone with at least an average I.Q. would confuse your integrity with Mr. Barrett's; you never comment on public issues, he only comments on public issues; you constantly criticize without offering a shred of proof; he never criticizes without offering proof;you have never "shown" that you have fullfilled your civic responsiblity by educating yourself on public issues; he fullfills his civic responsibility by educating himself on public issues; you have shown in your words that questionable behavior is not a problem for you when your tax dollars are funding such behavior; he refuses to refrain from questioning officials on questionable behavior; you constantly berate a private citizen for exercising their right to freedom of speech; he has never berated a private citizen for excercising their rights; you judge his motives even though he is not elected by any tax payer; he has never judged anyone's motives or behaviors unless it involved public tax monies; you post your derrogatory, borderline slanderous comments under the sleazy, immature, childish, sleazy, cowardly, sleazy, (did I mention sleazy?) title of "anonymous; Mr. Barrett signs his name which show great positive character on his part.
No, I do not believe there will be any confusion on the integrity that you possess and that which Mr. Barrett possesses. Given the choice, which we all are, my vote will go with a person who is not afraid to sign their name to their convictions and take a public stand even if I didn't agree with it. Any candidate that is defended on this blog anonymously by criticizing the one person who tries to bring problems to light, will not get my vote. I am quite sure that Mr. Barrett makes mistakes, he admits it, but he gets most of the situations right or at least gives the community a "heads up". Nobody else is willing to do that publicly. And not single "civic minded" anonymous has offered a single FACT to dispute anything Mr. Barrett says, only their justification for engaging in the behavior they accuse him of and their insistence that unethical, possibly illegal activity should not be exposed.
Who do you want representing you, a "ghost" or someone who will speak up for YOU publicly?
I do wish I lived in your district, Mr. Barrett. My district is in a sorry state, but I expect no change.
Sincerely,
William James
Mr. James, I want to thank you for your thoughts. You statements were well thought out, concise and to the point. I guess I am a "CAVE person who suffers from HLSS and am a cheerleader" too. I still look silly in the skirt with a fish hook in my nose as I'm being led around though, pom poms dragging the ground. BRRRRRRRR. Ugly site. But I digress, many people have asked our annonymous poster the same thing, and he or she has refused to give an answer. You were asked to name someone, you did. When you presented the facts, you were turned into an evil doer in Giles county. Way to go, and welcome to the club.
Way to go. The two of you seem to have all the answers.
Just sign me...
Ralph W. Ererson
dead
By the way, did you see wab's newspaper campaign notice. I got the impression that he was trying to pass himself off as a hapless victim of abuse. I think he has for a long time been the aggressor and not the victim.
Ralph,
I did see it. I didn't see that at all. I think he was referring to Giles Countians.
dead...
Maybe you should read it again.
Ralph
Earlier I asked that someone name something significant that Janet has accomplished as County Executive? I don't believe that she can do this. Before I post some of what I believe she is really about, I will wait for an answer.
Thanks, Ralph for your compliment. But you give me and Mr. "Dead" far too much credit. I truly don't think that we have ALL of the answers. Do you agree Mr. "Dead"?
To April 9 @ 3:34 pm: The key thoughts or main ideas that I took away from your post are : "your impression" and "you think"; Others may have different perceptions.
William James
I thought when you were working to get someone elcted you told their good qualities. Why they could do the job, not bitch and whine about the poster of someone agains the one you want..
I wish I had all the answers. I just hope when I'm elected, I can do as good a job as Ralphy thinks he can.
Thanks Mr. James.
12:51
Why don't you name one significant thing ANY elected officials have done that would please you? I'm sure, since none or very few meet your standards, that would be a very brief summary, wouldn't it?
To dead
Since you are hoping to get elected, why not divulge your name so your buddies here can campaign for you? And likewise, so that I can get busy campaigning against you?
To: 5:07, "Monkey see, monkey do", in other words, practice what you preach and reveal yourself.
Sorry Mr. Dead, They addressed that question to you, and I jumped in. I apologize if I am being presumptuous.
It just hit me wrong with all of the poster's dramatic and presumably ominous "be advised", and sounding the alarms about the "non-existent" group, and their silly little acronyms devised to make fun of the non-existent group. It might be a good idea to reveal yourself though, just the rumor of someone like that working against you would probably generate enough laughs to give you a victory by a landslide...something to consider. I'm not sure that I would be a big enough person to reveal myself to them though, just because of THEIR arrogance and sense of entitlement coupled with their fear of truth. Whoever is calling for one example of Ms JV's contribution is wasting their time; I remember a thread when I all but begged and nobody could give me a single instance. Not ONE example.
Best of luck, Mr. Dead and also to you Mr. Barrett. I look forward to the day when we actually meet. It will be a pleasure to have an intelligent discussion on civic matters of my new home.
William James
Once again, I am not trying to spread hate. I sincerely want what is best for Pulaski and Giles County. Janet has had almost 8 years. Ask yourself, have they been productive?
8:29
Please know that I hold that same sincerity as you do in wanting what is best for this county. But I know that calling people names and making all manner of accusations are mean-spirited and just plain wrong.
Yes, Mrs. Vanzant has had 8 years as the county executive. I hope she gets another four. And she will if I have anything to do with it. Granted, you would think she hasn't a lot of support (other than me) if you consider only this blog. But the thing is, most people do not read this mess.
Have her 8 years been productive. Well, I would say they have been just as productive as anyone else who has filled those shoes. And I know that if the whiners had anything on Mrs. Vanzant, they would make hay of it. And I believe you know that to be true as well.
An elected offical is going to have people say something mean about them. That is just the way it is. It might not be true and it could be.
If you can't take it, don't run for office.
Nice flowery soft words, very tactful, 9:02, and yet not one solid, (or weak for that matter) of a single accomplishment that JV can be credited with. People really want to make informed decisions at the polls. You really want her re-elected. Seems to me it would be a "win/win" situation if you would answer the question that more and more people are asking. Many, especially newcomers like me would dearly love to grant the benefit of the doubt to all incumbents who are seeking re-election. I don't have any history of good or bad concerning JV, but have heard NOTHING good from her supporters. I have heard plenty of negatives from those opposed to her winning another term. Please enlighten us, give us something to research, just a minuscule glance of the successes of her administration is all that would be necessary to enable those who have not made up their minds, a place to begin their research. That is of course if you are being truthful about your support for her. Maybe you are using reverse psychology on us and your real objective is to defeat JV. I don't know if that's the case, but I gotta tell you, your silence on her accomplishments, is not silence at all and you are damaging her chances of reelection by your refusal to tell the "good" that JV is responsible for. Please stop dodging the question, if you really want to assist her in her quest to continue to hold onto her current position.
Would one of you please remind william james that I no longer talk with him?
He's far too smart for someone of my intelligence.
He thinks I dodge his persistent attempts to argue with me. But I won't play a stupid game.
But I will tell you that Mrs. Vanzant is NOT the evil person you people have tried to make her out to be. She has my vote and as many others as I can possibly get for her. The more you attack her, the more resolved I am.
Let's pray for Giles County and for Mrs. Vanzant. I do not see how she puts up with these people!
If you stop talking to people who are smarter than you 8:48 you'll have no one to talk at, wait a minute you'll have no one to talk to but your box of rocks. You can take some comfort in knowing that it's your utter stupidity that has kept you from having any significant accomplishment in your life.
As for Mrs Vanzant don't think anyone called her evil but you. People have just asked that you give one accomplishment that she has achieved in her eight years in office. No body care who you vote for we just would like you to say why you are going to vote for her. In fact I wonder based on what you've said to this point, that you want to cancel the vote of others, why you bother to vote at all.
1:41
I happen to like Mrs. Vanzant.
I happen to not believe she is evil (that's right, I said evil) person the disgruntled try to make her out to be, particularly here at election time. Would you agree with me that someone you think is a liar would be evil? That's what barrett is always calling her...a liar.
I happen to believe Mrs. Vanzant is the best choice for the county.
OK? Anything else I might think about her is none of your business, as far as I am concerned.
The way I look at it, you vote is cancelling mine. But that's ok. I'll go out and get as many more as I can for Mrs. Vanzant to make up for that one.
By the way. Here's some food for thought. If you have lived in Giles County very long, have you ever seen it this bad in terms of hatred, division, jealousies, distrust, and etc? I haven't, and I've lived here many years.
To 5:13 Why don't you address your sleazy comments about me to me? I never said Mrs Vanzant is evil though she may at times do evil, she is however a vindictive liar who tries to terrorize and manipulate others.
She lied about the reason Pilot did not come here, she lied about the Beer permit going to Campbellville, she lied about being a single mother, she lied about why the information Commissioner Wilburn had not been given to him, she lied about the airport, she lied about the Hunter Smith Building, she lied about the current tax collections being on schedule, she lied about where she lives, she lies with such ease it is a work of art that could only be accomplished by a sociopath. Allen Barrett
wab...
Well, is it ok for one of your supporters to answer the questions I actually do addres specifically to you? You never say a word about that, particularly when they call me names. One good turn deserves another, wouldn't you think?
To 8:34.
The blog is open for the free exchange of conversation among any who would choose to be engaged. No one is restricted from use other than by use of profanity. Allen Barrett
wab...
You cleverly "suggest" that Mrs. Vanzant is a sociopath and yet you pop a cork when anyone refers to you as a troublemaker. Why is that?
Sorry 6:07 I never had a cork to pop and you've referred to me in so many derogatory ways that I don't pay any attention to your anonymous rants. Besides based on your insight, thinking, judgement, perception and hypocrisy being called a "troublemaker" by you is a compliment. Thanks Allen Barrett
Saturday, April 10, 2010 5:07:00 PM
If you would stop insulting me, you might actually be able to figure it out for yourself. Could be that I am already running. Could be that I have all the support I need. Could be that it may not even be a close race. I don't know, but the write ins may bring me down.
Then again I could just be living a fantasy. Who knows?
I can't even type. I hope I really don't REAK. I'm sorry. Should be Real.
wab...
So let me translate. It's perfectly ok for you to call people names, but HEAVEN FORBID if anyone describes your behavior as arrogant, egotistical, and such? All I have ever done is, to coin a phrase you used, describe your behavior.
to dead,
I hope the write-ins do you in my friend. You insult me regularly and, like someone else we know, find it unacceptable when I call your hand to it. By the way, could you tell me what district you are in?
Hey dumbo get somebody to read what's been written here NOBODY said you could write anything you want to on here. Problem is you just to dumb to understand what's being said.
Monday, April 12, 2010 5:25:00 PM
Certainly, I am in District - wait a minute, I'll make you a deal, I'll take off my mask, if you will take off yours. Then we will both know. And stop spreading the malarkey that you can't, I don't believe it.
Or you can figure it out for yourself.
To little noise of 12 April 5:25PM
You state "It's perfectly ok for you to call people names, but HEAVEN FORBID if anyone describes your behavior as arrogant, egotistical, and such?"
No intelligent person has ever called me arrogant or egotistical but you, of course identifying you with someone of intelligence I'll now be called stupid no doubt.
Once again you show your lack of originality, how could you possibly coin a phrase I have used? Seems that would be me coining the phrase and you using it afterward, wouldn't you agree? Seems like you have a continual problem with original ideas. Allen Barrett
wab...
Nobody could call you stupid. Oh, on the contrary, you are fairly cunning and crafty. And yes, you DID coin the phrase that you are merely "describing behavior" when you call those like me nasty names. And if I suggest that you are arrogant and egotistical, am I not doing the same?
I'd say Mr Barrett has a sense of humor 3:34 you should try to develop one.
No, he's dead serious about being mean-spirited and nasty to those who either disagree with him or who point out his misbehavior. I can only imagine how he would act while sitting on the commission when he didn't get his way.
Does the 4th District not have a school board member?
I haven't heard anything said about the Commissioners running in that District or I missed it.
Monday, April 12, 2010 5:25:00 PM
Are you not going to answer my simple request? Are you going to remove you mask? No, you are going to ignore me and hope that your problem goes away. You are doing what our entire government is doing, ignoring the reality and hope it goes away. Sorry. It won't. There is an old saying that says, "in any situation you can do three things, the right thing, the wrong thing and nothing. The best thing to do is the right thing, the next best is the wrong thing and the worst is to do nothing." I am trying to do the right thing. I may end up doing the wrong thing, but you would have me do nothing. That is the worst thing I could do.
Why would Jim Greene be running for school board of public schools WHEN he is on BOARD of new PRIVATE school kicking off?
That is a very good question 10:07am. One I have been trying to get an answer to as well.
Isn't Beverly Murrey on the fundraising committee for the Private school as well? Why is she running for school board as well?
dead
Are you not going to answer my simple question? Please divulge who you are. It seems I asked you first to remove your cloak (mask) of anonymity.
As for doing the right thing, the wrong thing, or nothing, rest assured that I will not be guilty of doing nothing when it comes time to campaign for candidates who are running for office. That's the right thing to do, and you can count on me to do just that. You see, I believe in the electoral process and not in bullying, trashing, and tactics of intimidation and negativity.
All I can say is that you need to do what you have to do, but respect my right and committment to do the same thing.
Wait and watch who is campaining or will it be low profile, just family and friends.
One thing I bet if WAB gets beat he will atill be watching and reporting to us
Maybe those running for election on the school board want all the people in Giles County have a good choice.
call murrey and ask her if she is on the board, I think you'll find she isn't. just giving ideas of fund raising since her daughters went to private schools in maury county.
5:06
And stirring up all the trouble he can for those who do not meet his approval. That will be particularly true for those in district 7 and for Mrs. Vanzant.
5:06:00
I do not believe the person (12:53)said Mrs. Murrey was on the Private School's Board of Directors but that Mrs. Murrey was helping fund raise for the Private School..which you yourself confirmed.
So per your own statement. Mrs. Murrey IS involved with the Private School AND she is "currently" on the Giles County Board of Education. To make matter WORSE she sent her child to a PRIVATE SCHOOL that is OUT OF COUNTY?!?!
Wow, kind of an eye opener, huh?
To 6:42 I've had to read your whining over and over because you never identify yourself with anything that will allow me and others to see it's from you and just skip to the next entry. I keep wondering where your logic is in working to get someone elected that you disagree with. It doesn't make any sense that WAB are anyone else including you would work to get someone elected that you are opposed to, disagree with are find
unacceptable in any way. If you was totally opposed to Everything you knew about Obama would you vote for him, you might but no on with any sense would they would vote for the guy they were in agreement with. Think about it are you supporting Mrs Vanzant because you disagree with her so why would you expect WAB to support her when he has numerous times said he disagrees with her on how to lead this county.
To 10:07am & 11:42am Mr. Greene's number is in the phone book. I even looked it up myself. I do not see how it would be that hard to "get an answer" for his involvement. In fact, I called and spoke with him about it tonight. He was a pleasure to talk to and was more then willing to answer all of my questions.. He even said that he was surprised that my 9:00ish PM call was only the second call he had received on the subject.
11:04 it's like the old adage that some would rather sit and complain about the dark than turn on the light.
I have found the same thing to be true when I called Mr. Barrett, Mr Pollard, Mrs Murrey, Mr Story and a number of other people I have called over the years. What the perception is isn't always what the realitiy is.
914, woiuld look better having her own children attending a home county school, but I can tell you one thing~ knowing how much incompentance runs within our system I darn sure can't blame her for that if that's true. Yes there are many good people, teachers, etc....but there sure are many that don't have the sense God gave a goose, they lie, make up rules, and are real pieces of work.
Two of Murrey's daughters graduated from public school and one graduated from private school. So shoot her.
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 3:55:00 PM
You already know who I am. You just can't figure it out. You read my name every time I post. If I have to spell it out, you have even less intelligence that I have given you credit for. I have never worn a mask. You however have always been anonymous. Also, I never said I wanted you to do nothing. I said you want everyone else to do nothing about what is going on in this county.
Deadman, at least I know when you post, you sign something beside Anonymous. I've began to wonder if all these Anonymous are the same person.
Fanny
deadman..
You're just as anonymous as anyone else. All I want to know is who you are so I can vote against you or at least campaign for your opponent. Pretty straightforward of me wouldn't you say?
Just sign me...
Live Man
Please keep signing Live man so I can tell you from the others.
Fanny
fanny. I may just do that. And then again, I may not. That sorta makes the game interesting, wouldn't you think?
Unfortunately you say yopu are playing a game. The rest of us are trying to keep the county from going broke.
My name is Doug Ead, I am running for school board in District 1. Hence Dead. I knew you weren't capable of figuring it out.
I have answered your question. I know you have no intention of letting anyone know your name. I am not going to say that it is cowardly, but others might. So care to confront me face to face? I am in the phone book, and I published my numbers on this blog if you need information about me.
Doug
You just lost a friend and a supporter. Thanks for letting me know. Knowledge is power. Now do you see what all this hate-mongering is doing?
I don't think he needs you as a supporter and with a friend like you he has no need of enemies.
6:05
I see you are busy spewing this evening. He was a friend, but I don't think we can be now. He has insulted me beyond reason, and I learned today that he is in the same camp as barrett. So, that's all I needed to hear. By the way, this is NONE of your business.
Thanks Mr. Ead. We need more like you in office.
I don't believe I lost a friend today. I don't have anonymous friends. My friends have respect for me and tell me their names. If your treating people the way you do, entitles you to friendship, then you definitely live in Egypt. You know, the land of denial. Knowledge is power, and the problem is, you have little knowledge and less power. If my beliefs put me in the same camp as Mr. Barrett, then it is your suffering you have to deal with. I didn't think I was in anyones camp but mine, at this time. Enjoy your day, and try not to be heartbroken at your loss of "friend". I know I won't.
doug
Yes, you truly lost me as a friend, but you lost my respect as well. Therefore, we have nothing further to discuss. And pease don't insult me ever again, ok?
I just hope you have some competition in the upcoming election. I'll check on that.
By the way, I have never mistreated anyone on this blog or anywhere else for that matter. But I WILL NOT be silent when those like barrett get on here and in the newspaper and openly trash others. Thank you but no thank you for your assessment of my interpersonal skills.
Thanks Mr Ead while you may have lost an imbecile's vote you have gained mine and my respect. Good luck in our district.
To the imbecile liar you have more than mistreated Mr Barrett on this blog and it has nothing to do with how you may think he has behaved as he and others have said he is responsible for his behavior and if you choose to act in a certain and unacceptable way you are just wrong, two wrongs do not make a right unless of course you are an Obama democrat, which you obviously are.
8:51
Wrong! I have never mistreated barrett, but I WILL NOT sit idly by and allow him to get away with trashing select people he doesn't like. This has been my position from the very start. Granted, he has mellowed somewhat in his name-calling and smart-aleck and condescending remarks, but I will take him to task anytime he slips. And, by the way, I feel as much responsibility to do that as you might feel to call me a nasty name.
People have a tendency not to want to hear the truth about things. It seems the truth means taking a reality check. So many people are called trouble makers when in reality they are trying their best to open peoples eyes to the truth and the untruth. Is Allen Barrett a trouble maker are is he holding peoples feet to the fire. Is he pulling ideas out of the air or is he doing his homework. Would it not be better to have someone in office that is not afraid to ask the question we would all like to ask but don't have the guts to do so. Would it not be in the best interest of the county to have someone in the commission or even on the school board that wants to protect the citizens and tax payers in Giles County. Isn't it better to have someone investigate and try to find out for sure about fraud and not continue the rumor that it is out there. I am considered a trouble maker and so are a few others that stand up and speak out. I am in office and I hold peoples feet to the fire. I am not afraid to stand my ground and question everything that pertains to the tax payers dollars. Most of you who bash Allen Barrett know that he is right and just because he speaks out doesn't make him a trouble maker. It makes him a concerned citizen just like me and the others that you catagorize together. I won't sign my name for family reasons, but know that I don't mind being put in the category with Allen Barrett. We both are looking for the truth in Giles County. So if you want to see a change in County Government I think you need to think about the seventh district and all districts. The person who goes to the trouble on a hot day to ask for your vote is a determined person to make a difference in Giles County. Get out and vote and vote to make a change. Clean house for the ones who have started to mold and the ones that are yes people to Janet and Tee.
I have talked to a couple of commissioners, and it seems some of them think maybe it would be a good idea to have barrett on the commission. The reasoning behind that is, according to them, he will finally have to sit down and be quiet and listen to others.
To 11:47 What an outrageous lie you have told when you said, "I have never mistreated barrett".
You have accused him of everything from being a trouble maker to being unworthy of being a Christian or minister all without ever having spoken directly to the man according to your own statements. You have accused him of talking down to you when you failed to understand some of his statements, you have accused him of being arrogant without even speaking with him, you have accused him of refusing to pray for others without any idea of what he prays for, you have accused him hatred toward others because he has spoken out against wrong doing, you have even accused him of viciously attacking others without giving any proof of such (Commissioner Reedy is who I'm talking about) and even when he has told you you are wrong and that he has a great deal of respect for that individual you continued on.
Whatever else you are male or female one thing is clear from that
11:47 statement is you didn't pay attention in Sunday School and are a liar.
Believe me, she knows Mr. Barrett personally. He has stepped on her toes so many times, she is eat up with fear and hatred for the man.
I thought Mr. Ead was running unopposed so he is assured of victory! Way to go Mr. Ead.
jad
You bet I have questioned many things about wab. Why not? He has no problem with questioning others? Is it fair when he goes after somebody that another very likely would go after him? Roger Reedy told me I was wrong? What on earth are you talking about?
As I have said very recently, barrett has toned down his rhetoric and name-calling a lot lately. And I commend him for that. I hope he continues to grow and improve.
To 9:32
If you would learn to read and think dimwit you would have understood what I wrote when I said "you have even accused him (Barrett) of viciously attacking others without giving any proof of such (Commissioner Reedy is who I'm talking about) and even when he (Barrett) has told you you are wrong and that he (Barrett) has a great deal of respect for that individual (Reedy) you continued on".
Of course if you could think you would be able to tell the difference between personal attacks and discussing the issues based on facts. Talk about Barret "growing and improving" you should try growing up that would be as much improvement as could be expected from you.
jad
You get on here and call me a dimwit, and you were so vague in your original post (spewing) that I didn't understand who was calling whom wrong. Yes, barrett has attacked Mr. Reedy (among select others) in the past, and I have pointed that out to him. Yes, he has called people all manner of nasty names (as you just did me), and I have also pointed that out to him. However, and as I said, he has toned down his meanness toward others, and I do commend him for that. And, to repeat myself, I hope he will continue to grow and improve.
Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:21:00 AM
As I have said, I don't have anonymous friends. If I have lost your respect, then that is a cross I will have to bear. As far as insulting you, get off your high horse. Your tone, demeanor and attitude are insulting to me. Maybe if you were not on such a power trip, you could talk to me face to face and we could dettle it. Remember, "Knowledge is Power."
Sorry, typo. That should be settle.
To 6:29 In your post to JAD you make some very untruthful statements about me and give some equally misleading statements that make the whole post a complete fabrication, please note that I have not referred to you as a liar yet. I read JAD's original statement and had no problem following what he said so perhaps unless there are a number of other folks who couldn't follow JAD's post the problem is simply one that exist between your ears.
I challenge you, as I have before, to produce one single statement where I referred to Commissioner Reedy with a "nasty name" or any other name that was disrespectful. I have told you before when you made this same stupid and false claim that I have a great deal of respect for Commissioner Reedy, we have spoken with each other any number of times, I have disagreed with him at times but I have never received nor given anything other than respect. To continue to make this claim without any substance whatsoever makes you a disgusting willful liar.
I deny completely that I have called anyone a "nasty name" as you claim and as you have been corrected on this matter also and insist on continuing to declare this falsehood that again makes you a disgusting willful liar.
I have, as I have said before, never denied that I have called some people some distasteful names but that has always been with supportive evidence and it has never been anonymously.
Now it would be very easy for you to destroy my credibility by simply producing some evidence that disproves what I have so plainly stated in this post. Until then I would suggest either get your facts straight, put your name on your lies or just shut your pie hole. Allen Barrett
wab
What untruthful statements have I made? I did not say you specifically called Mr. Reedy a nasy name, did I? No. Interestingly, your calling me a willful liar and suggesting that I shut my "pie hole" are so incredibly unbecoming of a man of your position.
Yes, I'm afraid you are guilty of calling people nasty names. In case you don't know, any derogatory name-calling such as anal buffon, etc. is nasty. And just because you have "supportive evidence" doesn't give you the right to call names. I believe I once gave you an example of one who knows a brother is taken in adultery. If that person were you, would you find it acceptable to start telling others about it?
I'm not trying to destroy your credibility. I honestly think you know better. Surely, you must. I'm just trying to get you to see the error of your ways. Finally, I'm afraid my pie hole will open anytime your pie hole emits mean-spitited rhetoric. But, as I said, you have improved, and I hope you will continue to grow.
To 9:03: Once again you have shown an incredible ability in your sophomoric responses to all things resembling personal responsibility.
You ask, "what untruthful statements have I made?"
I won't go back through all the absurdly untrue statements you have written on this blog but will simply focus on your latest.
In your 19 April 6:29 AM post you stated "Yes, barrett has attacked Mr. Reedy (among select others) in the past". That is as untrue as you can get, no intention here to limit your abilities to be untruthful.
You state, "I did not say you specifically called Mr. Reedy a nasy name, did I? No."
While you did not specifically say I called him a "nasty name" you certainly implied it with this statement, "Yes, barrett has attacked Mr. Reedy (among select others) in the past, and I have pointed that out to him. Yes, he has called people all manner of nasty names (as you just did me), and I have also pointed that out to him." In the shallowness of your whining you consistently fail to offer any evidence of these easily deniable behaviors; but as we have come to understand your purpose is not to be honest, responsible or productive it is merely to redirect, obscure, mislead and create false impressions.
Once again I call upon you to activate your minuscule brain cell and increase your understanding that words have meaning not based on what you think but what has come to be acceptable definitions listed in a dictionary. There is nothing nasty about "anal" or "buffoon" other than in a foul minded persons thoughts.
You state, "just because you have "supportive evidence" doesn't give you the right to call names. I believe I once gave you an example of one who knows a brother is taken in adultery. If that person were you, would you find it acceptable to start telling others about it?"
Here again you show an unusual level of shallowness in your thoughts. It is the evidence that identifies the behavior that makes the person what they are. If the evidence shows a pattern of untruthfulness that person becomes known as a liar. If a person commits adultery they are an adulterer, that should be as plain and simple as a person who steals is a thief. You my try to dress it up and rationalize it anyway you choose but calling a rooster a horse don't make it ridable.
Now if you know of any private individual I have criticized or referred to with a negative term by all means please identify the situation or person. People in public office being paid by public funds are a different story and I have never denied that some of them are far less competent that others and this has been done by me in various ways. So, to quote Clara Peller, "Where's the beef".
In closing I assure you, you will not destroy my credibility and as for your pie hole I was being very, very nice. Your arrogance and presumption sometimes tries to provoke the soldier in me rather than the minister, so far the minister in me has responded for which you should be very glad. Allen Barrett
wab...
No, please humor me and go back and list untruthful things I have said about you. I would really like to know what they are.
You tell me I should shut my pie hole, and you call that being nice? You have got to be kidding, right?
You say a pattern of untruthfulness makes one a liar. Well, would a history of being a kook make one a nut? I think we can both see the similarity in concept.
So far the minister has responded in you, and I should be glad? Exactly what do you mean by that remark? It sounded like a threat, and that's not nice. I'd really like to know.
To 4:10 if you will get someone to read and explain the words in my 11:18 statement you might see that I already stated one thing you lied about me and why I'll not be bothered with making a more complete list.
I am interested in knowing if a person has a pattern of untruthfulness what in your opinion would you call them?
What I said about being a soldier and a minister is that you should be glad that I have dealt with you as the minister I am and not the soldier I was. Now you can take it anyway you want to, it makes no difference to me. I'm not the kind of person who makes idle threats so if I had made one to you it would already be carried out by now. Allen Barrett
wab...
That was a threat, and I do not appreciate it one bit. So let me tell you something before we go any further. You need to calm down. More importantly, understand that not everyone will be intimidated by your behavior. I'm one of them...soldier.
Oh, and one more thing. You say you have dealt with me as a minister. I about cracked a rib laughing at that one. So my apologies. I realized too late that you were just trying to be humorous. My bad.
Didn't sound anything like a threat to me. In fact seems Mr Barrett stated very clearly that had he made a threat to you he would have already carried it out. So if nothing has been done to harm you how could there
have been a threat.
11:36
Now you have me shaking in my boots thinking just how close I might have come to wab's wrath. What a laugh.
In my opinion, you people are just plain mean.
To 6:18 in my opinion you are just plain stupid.
Wednesday, April 21, 2010 6:18:00 AM
You are just as ignorant and arrogant as you claim others to be. You corrupt every thread you voice your overstated opinion on. You use words you don't fully understand, and then try to make them insulting. Don't ever use the term soldier as an insult. It shows just how little respect you have for those who have served, and for your country. You asked me "not to insult you again". What you said was offensive in so many ways to me you will never begin to understand. You do have the right to free speech, but remember who gave it to you.
2:43
Yeah, combat vets like me!!!! Sorry if that offends you.
Thursday, April 22, 2010 5:13:00 PM
Do what? If you are a combat vet, thank you for your service. My comment is reffering to the use of soldier as an insult. I have more respect for the military than you know. I know the sacrifices made.
Good for you, doug. I too have seen death and dying. But barrett made a smart remark about how glad I should be that he dealt with me from the position of a "minister" rather than as a soldier. I took that personally and had to respond. Too bad if you missed the point.
Do you think people should be reelected if they don't even have the time to get their qualifications papers filled out by them, but by Tee Jackson and friends.
3:48 dude you missed the point what I understood Barrett to say was as a minister he used words to deal with your stupidity, as a soldier he might have just went upside your head.
dude
That's pretty much what I thought he meant. And, dude, that would be a huge mistake. So you and I are in agreement that it sounded like a threat?
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