Good Phone Etiquette Or Arrogant Contempt For Others?
Most everyone by now has been subjected to the annoyance of the cell phone user sitting at the table next to us during a meal constantly mumbling and at times yelling into the phone. It ruins a good meal.
Today it seems that "texting" is replacing the phone conversation but is it any less disrespectful, distracting and annoying? Could a teacher be expected to teach while on the phone texting or while students are sitting in their class texting?
Would a CEO allow constant texting by executives while trying to talk with them about concerns for the company?
Would any reasonable parent giving instructions to their child allow that child to be texting a friend during those instructions?
So is it just ignorance or disrespect that would cause a County Commissioner to sit in a committee meeting and constantly be texting with their phone under the table? This morning in the Legislative Committee a Commissioner sat texting the entire meeting. Twice this commissioner was addressed only to look up from her phone, totally confused as to what the question was.
The amazing thing is this commissioner tried to berate me after the meeting over her texting.
Today it seems that "texting" is replacing the phone conversation but is it any less disrespectful, distracting and annoying? Could a teacher be expected to teach while on the phone texting or while students are sitting in their class texting?
Would a CEO allow constant texting by executives while trying to talk with them about concerns for the company?
Would any reasonable parent giving instructions to their child allow that child to be texting a friend during those instructions?
So is it just ignorance or disrespect that would cause a County Commissioner to sit in a committee meeting and constantly be texting with their phone under the table? This morning in the Legislative Committee a Commissioner sat texting the entire meeting. Twice this commissioner was addressed only to look up from her phone, totally confused as to what the question was.
The amazing thing is this commissioner tried to berate me after the meeting over her texting.
posted by Allen Barrett | 12:26 PM
254 Comments:
And you were "berated" why? You mean they were texting and then, after the meeting, the came up to you out of the blue and just started giving you down the road? Sounnds like you haven't given the whole story to me.
Steve Williams
steve.williams@hughes.net
My guess is Vicki Coleman is the offending committee member. Heard most meetings she attends she doesnt give her full attention. We pay these people $30 each meeting to represent us and conduct our business. If the woman is too busy to give her full attention to the job then she needs to resign. Add this attitude to what came out in the trial and I would say the county has a problem.
That is way of "tuning out" during the meeting because she has NO IDEA what the heck is going on....watch and see people....she will "fly under the radar" during her entire term. How childish to be in an important public meeting and to be texting. The whole meeting or just a few seconds...it doesn't matter, still VERY disrespectful.
wab
Can't you just get over it? The voters in YOUR district did not want you nor shall they ever elect you. Talk about sour grapes and troublemaking. You are a real piece of work.
No. WAB is not 'a real piece of work' as you like tio repeat over and over. This woman is as rude as they get. Betcha if a member of the audience inadvertently left their phone on the deputy in attendance would be on them like a ton of bricks. Coleman should set a better example or we dont want her.
Sour grapes or not; if what he says is true, then the actions of this person is not only disgraceful, they are outragous!
Anyone with a brain and or a simple amount of dignity would already know that it's disrespectful to be texting in any formal, or business setting.
Ignorant people being voted into office is part of the reason that Giles County ( and our country at large) continues to degrade.
I bet if Tommy Pollard had done that Janet would of had something to say.
This seems to be guess work that it was Ms. Coleman. I would like to know who it was so I want vote for her next time. If she don't care enough about what's going on she needs to resign.
By any chance was it video? Love to see it on utube.
6:27 It's funny to see how you have sour grapes when you see WAB's name.
This man is going to bark up the wrong tree one of these days and get his A.. kicked. He is trying his luck. Threat or not, he is looking for trouble.
I think it's just down right rude to even hear a cell phone ring in any type of meeting place much less texting during a meeting especially while you're gonna vote on a matter that will affect the county as a whole. Un-professional I guess is a better way to put it.
8:29 post needs to be deleted. we know what the A stands for.
6:36
YES, barrett truly is a real piece of work. Think about it this way. As bad as you people want to portray Mrs. Coleman, she was elected and barrett lost by a huge margin. That tells you and me that people put a lot more faith in here than would they a devious troublemaker.
Oh, by the way, neither barrett nor any of you who defend anything he does know the circumstances surrounding the so-called texting incident. This is absolutely over the top and shameful.
5:38 I suppose you know circumstance surrounding the texting incident.
You must be next to God you know everything.
I don't know who was doing the texting but it shouldn't of been done at a meeting she was suppose to vote in. She didn't know how to vote, just do it the way someone told her to.
It was Coleman. Period! If her job is so important why did she run for office? But then we all know about the last minute switch on the election papers and the non-compliance with the election laws.
6:31
No, I was simply saying that none of us know the circumstances surround8ing the texting incident. What I am also saying is that allen barrett is the sorest loser I have ever seen. He seems so full of spite and hatred. Can you not see the sour grapes here?
6:31
Can you not see that allen barrett is just trying to stir up trouble against Mrs. Coleman? If that's Christianity I don't want it.
If she had sickness in her family, she should of stayed with them not go to a meeting she can't get her mind on.
If her job demands her attention so, she shouldn't of come to the meeting in the first place.
Should Mrs. Coleman decide she has more pressing things and decides to resign from commissioner, that DON"T mean Barrett will get it.
I think she should resign if texting and not paying attention to what is going on in the meeting is more important to her.
I am a commissioner and I was at the meeting. Mrs. Coleman came in over twenty minutes late sat down and immediately began texting, I was at the table close enough to see her eyes as they continually stayed focused under the table. A discussion was being held about the new requirements by the state to charge over $300.00 inspection fee on every new house and construction project. This inspection was to check if energy efficient windows were being used. The county was given the option to opt out but needed to vote on the issue in a full commission meeting. Mrs Coleman was asked a question by the Chairman and didn't respond instead she continued to stare into her lap. She was later addressed by name at that time Mr. Barrett who was sitting behind and to the side of her stated that "they would have to wait until she got off the phone".
Mr. Barrett said what everyone else at the table was probably thinking, I certainly was, and later learned others were upset by this behavior but didn't want to cause trouble.
After the meeting Mrs. Coleman told Mr Barrett to "stay out of her business". He stated what was going on at the meeting was his business and should have been hers". Mrs Coleman said she was taking care of business and Mr Barrett said the committee meeting was her business. That she was his representative and was expected to take care of county business when she was being paid for it.
Mrs Coleman was very loud and angry and was escorted out of the room by some other commissioners.
It was agreed after the meeting that the best thing from now on would be to remind everyone to turn off their cell phones.
Some have blamed Mr. Barrett for this situation but this time it was all on Mrs Coleman. I didn't say anything at the time but I was glad Mr. Barrett spoke up and clearly stated the problem.
7:29 If you think Allen Barrett is the sorest loser you have ever seen then you must not have been following the Vickie Harwell loss. What you read in the paper is only a little part of what she is trying to get done behind the scenes.
Ok, so Allen Barrett is a trouble maker.
IF he hadn't of spoke out about this completely IRRESPONSIBLE behavior of an "ELECTED OFFICIAL, who would have?
Could it be that he is the only one within our community who has spine enough to call attention to things everyone else knows is wrong, but due to our overly politically correct conditioning; we've become too scared to say anything?
SO he didn't win the election: does that mean that he should simply stop caring what happens to us all, as well as himself? Perhaps he does come off a bit to abrasive when he calls someone on something, but at least he says something about it. Hey Allen; you do need to be a bit more respectful in your approach sometimes. Just sayin man, so take a major hint here, please.
But city and county business is important! And too many times people vote for people who have no business being in office, because they don't have any idea of what they're in there for in the first place. THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO REPRESENT US THE PEOPLE, AND THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO HAVE OUR BEST INTERST IN MIND WHEN THEY CONDUCT OUR BUSINESS. NOT THEY"RE PERSONAL AGEDNAS! REMEMBER THAT FOLKS.
But this is typical for Giles county in that we generally elect someone based on popularity instead of capability.
It's a sad testament to the average intelligence of our electorate in the county. And some of you people blasting Barrett in this forum show the petty ignorance to the obvious wrong that hurts everyone and the childish resentment towards anyone who dares stand up against such.
It's folks like you who keep Giles county mired in the perpetual funk of a small minded joke of a community that we've been for too long.
You want change for the better? Then follow Barrett's lead, and demand better of those who are elected officials. Or just admitt you really like suffering the stupidity and irresponsiblity of your own unintelligent choice in some of your elected officials.
BUT SOME OF US DON'T!
9:52 Good post.
9:52 Wonderful post! Thanks
Yes, he's a troublemasker and a sore loser. So why should we "follow his lead" and cause more of it?
9:52 A great post very well said, but I knew 1:17 would come back with their worn out post. They can never promote anything good.
1:50 You got that right. All 1:17 nows how to do is say something hateful about Barrett. Have you ever heard him say anything helpfully.
Mr. Barrett is stepping on someone he loves toes, maybe his.
8:55. Why didn't you do YOUR job? If you saw a problem why not make a motion to disallow cellhones at meetings. I heard from another commissioner it was no problem at all, just you and Barrett looking for any reason to criticize the lady who beat him.
8:55
If allen barrett had said the things he did about me and I were Mrs. Coleman, I might have said even more to him than she did. Would you be mad at barrett had he tried to take YOUR job away from you...the one you were elected to do by the people of your district? Of course you would. And yet, you defend the very troublemaker who is perpetuating this bad situation. He can't accept the fact that the voters didn't want him, so he seems to be on the attack when it comes to Mrs. Coleman. But, when the election comes up again, he can run against her if he chooses and get beat badly again. It's called sour grapes! That's what this is all about, and I don't blame Mrs. Coleman one bit for telling him to stay out of her business. After all, she knows what he tried to do to her. It's just disgraceful that he nor his supporters can see the deviousness and resentment being brought into play by a sore loser.
One more thing. May God bless you Mrs. Coleman.
"It's just disgraceful that he nor his supporters can see the deviousness and resentment being brought into play by a sore loser."
No, what is disgraceful is you for supporting the factually obvious lack of common decency and irresponsible behavior of an elected official, because you are so resentful of someone who brings that behavior to light!
He had every right to call her on it, and so did anyone else who was in that meeting. In fact they all had an OBLIGATION to it!
Are you so hateful of Mr. Barrett that your own prejudice of him blinds you to the irresponsible behavior of the commissioner?
OR do you agree that her business in those meetings are her and hers alone, and you really don't care how she represents you or the citizens of her district?
It has to be one of the two.
So please admitt to which one ever one it is?
3:19 Is it any Commissioners job to tell them put their phone away? I would think Janet should do that.
Didn't 8:55 say they agreed after the meeting to tell them to but phones away from now own.
I'm sure Jackson, Harwell and Campbell didn't think it was a problem because they don't like Barrett.
Why don't you run for something, you seem to know everything.
I bet the commissioner that was texting will think twice before doing it again.
4:36
No, it really IS disgraceful of barrett to behave as he did. How did he know that Mrs. Coleman didn't have a family emergency? For your information, she has an elderly father who is not in the best of health. Even so, it was none of wab's business, and his "calling her on it" just made him look like a sore loser and a troublemaker.
Oh, I care very much how Mrs. Coleman represents her district. Thank God it's her and not barrett.
Again I must say God bless you Mrs. Coleman. I'm so thankful you are one of our three District 7 commissioners.
If she had a family emergency, she should have left the meeting and taken care of it. If this is true she should not accept pay for this meeting.
This group of followers of a David Karesh type seem to be blinded by his leadership and causes. He sounds so much like a bully or child who doesn't get his way.
Richard Harris
I believe that even after Mrs. Coleman got to the meeting she asked Mr. Harwell to continue to sit in for her so she could finish a conference call. Then when she did come into the meeting she continued to text. Mrs. Brown had to escort her out when the meeting was over because she was getting so loud. She was reprimanded for the behavior by the board chair. If your going to attend a meeting then you need to pay attention to what is going on. I am in the 7th district and I would appreciate my commissioners, my school board rep, and anyone that is alterperson to be paying attention or give up their seat to someone who cares and has the time to do the job effectively.
And whatever you think Vicky Harwell is doing you might check and see if anyone else is doing something as well. It's not always Vicky. Some other candidates are taking a stand but aren't as open as Vicky.
9:50
The simple fact remains that it's none of your business or mine why Mrs. Coleman was on the phone. Maybe she felt a sense of duty to stay on at the meeting although she really needed to be somewhere else. So barrett was out of line in confronting her, and we both know why he did it and made a big deal of it on this blog. In short, it's called sour grapes.
If Mrs. Coleman was "getting loud", it was because he 9barrett0 provoked her. She knbows what he has tried to do to her in the past. He's just lucky Mr. Coleman didn't elect to confront him about the matter.
6:06
I along with Barrett or anyone else has a right to guestion what anyone does that gets paid with our tax money.
Sour grapes is the one that always takes up for the person doing wrong when being paid with our tax money. We must be paying your salary and you are afraid, Barrett will finally find you out.
As 1:08 said "She was reprimanded for the behavior by the board chair. If your going to attend a meeting then you need to pay attention to what is going on."
How long did this meeting last?
7:09
Yes, we all have the right to question our elected officials, but you know very well that what allen barrett did was wrong and devious. He just can't get over the fact that Mrs. Coleman beat him badly and that the people in his district knew him well enough to vote against him. He knows he is and will remain politically impotent, and he can't (my opinion) stand it.
Perhaps Mrs. Coleman should not have gotten "loud" as was said, but barrett has a way of provoking most anyone to wrath and not good works. We all have that potential, you know. And don't forget that Mrs. Coleman already knew what barrett tried to do to her. Perhaps she should have had the patience of Job to tolerate his smart-mouthed insults. I couldn't have done it, so I don't judge her. Instead, I say again...God bless you Mrs. Coleman.
Oh yes, this is nothing more than a case of sour grapes...perhaps the worst case I've ever seen.
8:14 Have to say that's the best post you've ever posted.
I don't have a problem with Mrs. Coleman getting loud with Mr. Barrett. I do have a problem with her texting during the meeting.
No one has denied it being the entire meeting. Not only was it bad manners, she was there to represent the 7th District, taking tax payers money.
I guess she was doomed no matter what. If she had pressing bussiness and didn't show up she would of been talked about, now texting she is talked about. No happy medium to the problem. The main thing is don't run if you can't do the job.
I didn't vote for Mr. Barrett, but think you are bad in the way you always pop off about him.
Maybe we both need to stay off the blog.
All the ones posting in Mrs. Coleman defense, would have been on Mr. like a duck on a June bug, had it been him.
Meant Mr. Barrett
Anonymous said...
This man is going to bark up the wrong tree one of these days and get his A.. kicked. He is trying his luck. Threat or not, he is looking for trouble.
I am glad to see that you agree Mr. Barrett has not barked up the wrong tree yet.
To Mrs. Coleman, if what you are doing is so much more important than your elected job duties, just pull a Terry Harwell and not show up.
When has asking someone a question become provoking someone?
A bunch of nuts that the squirrels will feed on one day. Watch and see.
Since Coleman is sec. of Insurance Committee , will she be able to handle that job?
So you bring that up again that she is not qualified to hold that position and do the job. Why don't you check your credentials. The woman is an intelligent person well deserving of the job (voted in by the people) and college educated to head the insurance committee.
I did not say she was not qualified. Just how she can perform if she has her mind somewhere else.
So sad that this happened. But look at the good that "can" come from it. I'll bet she'll pay attention the next time she attends another official meeting. If not, then she needs to be reprimanded.
Again: say what you will,but Barrett was painfully correct in his questioning of her actions. SOUR GRAPES OR NOT!
Thank you Mr. Barrett for having the backbone to bring this to light, maybe now it will not happen again. People bringing up problems is not stirring up trouble. It is trying to correct the trouble already there. Mr. Barrett keep up the good work. I think you are improving our county.
9:13
You're thanking barrett for again trying his best to discredit and cast reflection on Mrs. Coleman? Unbelievable. Can you not see the sour grapes involved? He is angry because Mrs. Coleman beat him so badly in the election.
May God bless you, Mrs. Coleman. I'm embarrassed that you have to contend with allen barrett and his faithful few. Just know that they do not represent anywhere close to a significant number of Giles County voters.
wab
Your motivation for this attack on Mrs. Coleman makes you look like an angry child who didn't get his way. You're making a complete fool of yourself.
The problem with Mr. Barrett is that he doesn't just question someone on a subject, he attacks. He is not polite about anything he does. If his tone and attitude were different he would be easier to take. He is balligerant!! I have been in several meeting where I thought that there was going to be violence because of him. It is frightening. I really think that is what he wants.
To 6:45 You are responsible for your thoughts and unless they are based on reality then they are nothing more than idle and foolish speculation. Have you ever seen Mr. Barrett actually get physical with anyone? NO. Even when he was arrested at the school board he did not get physical with anyone in fact according to the records he spend a couple of hours between his statement and the arrest mingling with members of the board and others who were there.
To 6:07 How is it that you can know the motivation of another person unless you are God? What you did was say what you thought not what necessarily is.
I have watched Mr. Barrett a long time and have never seen him treat anyone with less respect that they gave him. Yes he is aggressive and certainly makes people feel uncomfortable but ten some people deserve to fee uncomfortable.
Charles
Allen Barrett, Allen Barrett.
He's the Devil! A blemish on our community: so crude and rude. I don't like him. He's always starting a fuss on innocent well intentioned city and county officials. He's always becoming the center of attention.
AND I'M NOT!
Is that what you people are really wanting to say? Sure sounds like it to the rest of us.
I can assure you that a couple of hours did not pass between the disruption and the arrest. I don't know where you got that idea. The police were called during the meeting and he was arrested as soon as the meeting adjourned. I don' think the meeting in it's entirety lasted a couple of hours. Was he physical no, was he loud at the meeting and during the arrest, yes. At that was not according to record that was according to my eyes. You do not have to be physical to make people fearful of what can happen. I have seen him charge more than one person and dared someone to get physical with him. That is as bad. He definitely pushed the issue.
To 5:33 either you are the most uninformed person on the planet or you just refuse to accept reality. I will be glad to play the entire audio made by the school board that shows at no time did I get loud during the meeting or act in anyway that would have warranted a reasonable person to call the police.
Here is a simple fact for you. The School Board meeting where the police were called was only one part of the entire night's activities at the school offices. It was within the first fifteen minutes of the meeting that the police were called, thirteen seconds after I asked to speak. The School Board meeting lasted approximately an hour and fifteen minutes followed by approximately twenty minutes of refreshments and "meet and greet" among the School Board and the Commissioners School Committee and those in attendance. During that time I engaged in conversation with several people including the police office that was there. After this break the School Committee met for approximately half and hour. After these meetings were adjourned and most people had left I was approached by Officer Musgrove and Chief Dickey who very professionally offered me a citation for disturbing the peace, which I refused. When the arrest was made I certainly did yell because my arm which is partially immobile was pulled up behind my back at a severe angle and caused severe pain in my shoulder and chest which was still very sensitive from By-pass surgery.
To make a long story short you just have no idea of what actually happened and have made up your own version or you've just listened to the gossip until you have come to believe it, you are a very foolish person for repeating as true something so totally untrue when so much accurate information is available to disprove your rattle of lies.
Charles M
Well, do you think barrett treats Mrs. Coleman with respect? She has NEVER done anything to him to warrant his misbehavior. I don't blame her one bit for getting in barrett's face. I'm afraid he's going to keep pushing things until Mr. Coleman gets involved.
This is 5:33. I was at the meeting the night of the arrest. The problem with the arrest and pain in your arm came because you were trying to sit as they handcuffed you so yes your arm was pulled up your back at a severe angle. If you had stood there and let them handcuff you instead of doing a "sit-in" you arm would not have been hurt. Were you loud, yes, you were insisting on reading your statement while they were telling you that you were out of order. This is not things I heard but saw with my own eyes. I am sure the police waited until everything was over so that there would be less chaos. For a normal person being arrested that would be less embarrassment but since that is what you wanted that would not be the case. I guess we saw and heard different things.
To 6:51 seems you changed your story after Mr. Barrett called you on your 5:33 statement. Barrett described why he "yelled" and you confirmed it in your 2nd post. I have read your comments about this incident at other times and you were very inaccurate in those as well. I was a juror at the trial and we listened to the tape very carefully there was a loud voice on the tape but it clearly was not Mr. Barrett or Mr. Winkle. In fact there were several snickers at the realization the loudest voice on the tape was actually the board chairman.
You said, "I can assure you that a couple of hours did not pass between the disruption and the arrest. I don't know where you got that idea. The police were called during the meeting and he was arrested as soon as the meeting adjourned. I don' think the meeting in it's entirety lasted a couple of hours". Testimony at the trial was without discrepancy on this issue, more than two hours passed between when the police were called and the arrest was made, you are just wrong
in you "assurance".
I suggest you talk with Lt. Musgrove about what actually happened. He was 1st on the scene, the one who asked Mr. Barrett to stop reading which he did, he made the arrest and his testimony about the arrest and what happened before and after was very influential.
This was the 1st time I had ever sat on a jury and I was surprised about a lot of the things I saw and heard. I also made detailed notes each day because it was my 1st time.
8:57 Thank you so much for your post.
Mr. Barrett and Mr. Winkle were also charged with resisting arrest. But this was a new charge made when it went to the grand jury, not at the time of the arrest. Took the cops about six months to come up with that one.
Summing up, that was more than two years ago. The men were aquitted. Get over it as a spectator although I doubt those two men ever will. And rightly so.
And you think things are honkey dorey in Giles county. Funny.
8:57. Yor "story" gives yourself away. You could not have been a jury member in this case. Nice try Allen.
To 12:39 I wrote the 8:57 post and I was a juror and everything I stated in that post was true. If you should ever develop some basic understanding of things instead of trying always to defend with lies, rumors, gossip and half truths you might actually develop some intelligence, so far you have shown nothing but stupid hatred for one person who clearly is you superior in every way and that's what grips you so much.
wab
Your post at 7:40 is so obvious. You think yourself superior to others? What unbelievable arrogance.
9:52 Perhaps we should cut barrett a little slack for his grandiose feelings of superiority. After all, one of his two supporters calls him Jesus Christ on here.
10:42
So hilarious. But the loyal follower is quite wrong. I don't see very much Christ-like behavior in the one and only allen barrett.
You might ought to re read your bible there, oh thou judemental and holy one.
Christ called the Pharisees snakes and vipers, and even hipocrites.
I suppose you never read the part about where he turned over the money tables in the temple, and drove the merchants out using a whip huh?
He even referred to Peter as Satan, when Peter tried to tell him he didn't know what he was doing.
I don't know that Barrett has done as much as Jesus did. Perhaps he needs to!
Looks like the enabler is hard at it again. The thing I can't understand is how he can be so sure of who the ananymous posters but criticize anyone else who make a guess about them.
I also can't understand why none of the things identified as facts by the juror was challenged only the claim made that it was Barrett doing the writing.
To 12:39 not that it will do any good but I didn't write the post you refer to.
To 9:52 The arrogance is all yours in your ignorant belief that you know so much more than you obviously know. I have never believed nor acted as if I were superior to anyone but I'll have to reconsider that idea if your writing is a reflection of your true intelligence and attitude toward the truth.
To 10:42 No one but you has referred to me with such a blasphemous misuse of the Lord's name. While I have become accustom to your lies even that disgusting lie is hard to believe you would state. Perhaps if you spent a little more time in reading the Bible and praying you would be less likely to blasphemy, use God's name in support of a lie, while unleashing your anger at others.
To 9:34 you are right about the enabler of wrong doing, his problem is reality must be suspended in-order for him to continue to be able to justify the lies, gossip and cowardly behavior he chooses to make such a large part of his existence.
I didn't ascribe the name to you. One of your followers did, as blasphemous as it was so to do.
Funny thing is, you never corrected them.
That's because it never happened moron.
Thank goodness for printers. Want me to mail you a copy?
2:28 Do you not know how to copy and paste? Put it where we can all see. That would prove it was on here. I didn't see it.
I would certainly like to see that statement. It's as simple as stating the date, time and thread. A printed message is no assurance that you didn't just set down and type such a disgusting thing.
I'm sure you'll not be able to find such a statement but do the right thing if you have it and cut and paste it as 2:47 suggested and let everyone see either you are a truthful person or you are a disgusting liar, it's all up to you.
7:25
What do you think Christ would call barrett then?
His child.
I'll be happy to do that. Just restore all the posts you deleted after McAlister scared you. Then I will cut and paste it for you.
6:05 Are you McAlister? You're always popping off like you know everything McAlister thinks or does.
Nope. Just know what barrett does and why.
I think your delusions are taking over I went to the thread about the signs and the video and could see nothing that had been deleted.
Let's ask him then if deleted any posts about the sign incident. Don't hold your breath for an answer though.
I have in the past noticed a couple of my posts disappear with no explanation.
By the way, when is the McAlister trial going to court? Does Clay need to go out of town and get an attorney who will fight for him? Surely, he's not content to have his character and reputation destroyed and let the culprit get away with it.
wab
You keep telling the lie that I am an enabler of wrong. Looks like you would bend more toward being more truthful yourself rather than in accusing others of your own hypocritical behavior. Shall I start calling you the "promoter of strife"?
6:14 after some of the things you've called Mr. Barrett in the past I think "promoter of strife" would be a step up for you, have you finally developed some Christian character?
9:36
He keeps telling that lie, and I have no choice but to defend myself. And you defend him on that?
4:02 I didn't defend Mr. Barrett I just tried to point out that you are not without dirty hands in this matter.
5:16
How are my hands dirty? All I have ever done is point out the mean-spirited and hypocritical things I've seen on this blog.
May God bless you and your family Mrs. Vicky Coleman. You don't deserve the treatment these people are giving you.
Come on 5:16 you have shown as much if not more mean-spirited and hypocritical behavior than anyone on this blog including Barrett.
At least Barrett gives reasons for what he says and signs his name while you just gossip and hide.
8:55 Looks like you are still waiting. Oh well.
7:13
Well, of course I would be viewed negatively by those who get on here and say all manner of low-lifed things about others. I simply challenge them when they do. And there's nothing hypocritical about "exposing" wab and his faithful few. I've never been a part of their "pot calling the kettle black" way of thinking.
Guess you must be part of the kettle calling the pot black then.
I don't care what you say about WAB, I don't know him just what I read on this blog. You never tell why WAB is wrong. Because you don't like him don't make what he said wrong.
I'll be waiting for you to give a reason why what WAB says is wrong.
To 7:13
"there's nothing hypocritical about "exposing" wab and his faithful few. I've never been a part of their "pot calling the kettle black" way of thinking."
You've exposed nothing about either. All you've managed to do is cry, "well what about you."
He hasn't said one personal thing about any of these people. All he'd done is called them on their stuningly publicly made inconsistent statements or actions.
On the other hand, you've done little more than to run interference for these people because you have a personal agenda against him, and when defending the inconsistencies of the sited offender, you never refute the facts; you just obscure them by attacking the messanger.
Typical simple minded commie lib mindset. It's the same mind that votes for obscure officials who have a proven track record for incompentence.From now on, I choose to ignore your noise, because your not worth responding to!
May God Bless Mrs. Coleman and teach her good phone manners.
7:15
What I have against allen barrett is the fact that he calls himself a preacher and then behaves as he does. If my preacher acted like him I would never darken the doorway of that church.
Yes, Let me say it again. May God bless Mrs. Coleman and her family.
Judge not less you be judged.
And just how is a "preacher" suppose to behave?
And if he's not your preacher, who died and made you the holy one to judge him?
You still haven'nt dealt with the question of why it is you feel the need to PROTECT lousy behaviour of an elected officials!:proving that your only coming on here to berate Mr. Barrett.
Talk about perverted values? They need to place your picture beside the definition of "enabler" in Websters!
5:24 That sounds like BS to me. If he didn't step on your toes or a loved ones toes you wouldn't be doing this. Maybe you need to think about your own soul.
If you think your preacher isn't living the life he should, you shouldn't go hear him.
Where does Mr. Barrett preach?
I feel the way someone else posted, God Bless Mrs. Coleman and help her learn phone manners in a meeting.
5:34
Well, to answer your question, I sorta had the idea that a preacher was not involved in hateful name-calling and troublemaking. Rather, I think preachers are all about soul-sinning and not into causing strife and discord. I believe he is the promoter of strife and not a soul-winner for Jesus. And it's that seeming hypocrisy that troubles me most. I just point it out.
May God bless Mrs. Coleman and her family.
Hey folks , What seems to be missing from this dialog regarding performance at meetings of commissioners is ONE simple fact .
While in those meetings commissioners are being PAID ($30) for attending and WORKING for the taxpayers .
Nothing more , nothing less .
If you were working at a private company and spent all your 'work' time in NOT doing what you were paid to do what do you think would be the outcome ? Unfortunately the taxpayers have no recourse for correcting inadequate performance until the next election .
Just DONT forget ...
Demos Kratos
demos
You apparently do not know all the circumstances concerning Mrs. Coleman's use of her phone. Why don't you go ask her what the situation was instead of suggesting she was being undeserving of her pay? Huh? Take barrett with you. He's the one responsible for stirring up this controversy. More sour grapes.
Hey sour grapes it doesn't matter what the reason was she was texting she shouldn't of been. If she need to be with a sick relative, she should of went to him/her. What good did it do her to be at the meeting except get $30.00.
Don't go saying I want Barrett to get her job, I don't. But I pay taxes and don't like someone going to a meeting and not paying attention.
Everybody that don't like some things are not for Barrett. So get over it.
All I can about Barrett is he provides us a blog to comment on.
5:09 You miss the point. For whatever reason Ms Coleman was texting during a meeting to which she should have been giving her full attention, if she needed to be using the phone so much during that particular hour she should not have attended but another commissioner from her district should have sat in as her alternative. That is usual procedure in county committee meetings.
5:39
I wanted to address the comment you made about paying taxes. Does it not bother you just a little bit that allen barrett has cost this county's taxpayers thousands of dollars in legal fees? And he's not through yet!
As I understand it, Mrs. Coleman did ask Terry Harwell to sit in for her.
7:40 Some of his court cost does bother me. But the first one I know of should of been paid for by the Board of Education. If they had let him speak, then went on with their business is one thing but being so high and mighty is another.
mrs. coleman should of not been there if she asked Terry H. to sit in for her. But she wanted her 30 dollars. If she was going to be present she should of listen not played with her phone.
4 days and still waiting for barrett to fess up to deleting those posts.
More people than Barrett has caused the county money in law suits. What about the lady that was qualified for the Finance Director and wasn't even talked to... didn't Vanzant cost the county money there?
Sounds like a poor little baby got their post deleted. Post it again.
Stop crying.
IF Mrs. Coleman asked Harwell to sit in for her and even continue to while she finished a conference call, who will get the $30.00 for the meeting? Surely not both. I hope someone will clear this up for me.
Saturday, November 20, 2010 8:27:00 PM
I thought all post before the election was deleted because someone kept posting like they were drunk. At least the last ones I saw were like that.
8:50
Why don't you and allen barrett go ask Mrs. Coleman who will get the money? Then one or both of you can come back to this blog and start spewing your usual hatred and poison.
May God bless Mrs. Coleman and her family.
6:49 You can say what ever you want it's still bad manners to be texting at a meeting.
I don't believe mrs. coleman will do it again.
May God Bless mrs. coleman and teach her not to text in a meeting.
Enough has been said about the texting, it's time to move on.
I know it'll never stop as long as the defender or enabler pops off. I see most of you are just getting back at her/him.
7:28
Why don't you and allen barrett go ask Mrs. Coleman who will get the money? Then one or both of you can, as you just did again, come back to this blog and start spewing your usual hatred and poison.
Again, may God bless Mrs. Coleman and her family. She deserves extra pay for having to put up with the likes of you two.
7:44
You can call me a defender or an enabler all you want, but you know that's an allen barrett lie. I simply stand opposed to the promoter of strife and his loyal two or three who "defend" him regardless of what he says or does. Apparently, you're one of them.
8:16 I got the defender from you. One time you said you were going to defend Janet and others Barrett wrote against. (not exact words, but mean the same.)
I don't know Allen Barrett just opposed you. If you ever tried to tell why Barret lied or was wrong in what he started on a thread, I might not feel that way.
I've never read anything you said but against Barrett.
I am 8:50 and am not supporting or defending anyone.I just want to know how my tax dollar is being spent. With the financial condition of our county everyone needs to be concerned. Evidently some are not paying much tax or they would be concerned.
9:18
Yes, I admit to saying I defended Mrs. Vanzant and others from those mean and vicious attacks. I don't regret that one bit.
Defending "factual statements and or actions" by using "mean and vicious character assination. Now where have we seen this before? Hum? Oh that's right: the Vicky Harwell Mayoral Campain!
It looks like some of her cronies are busy protecting their "good ole boy network". True Democrap operatives to da bone!
Both Harwell and Coleman receive $30.00 each for that meeting and every other committee meeting they attend whether they are members of the committee or not. I understand that Harwell did sit in during the first 20 minutes then Coleman showed up and he stepped aside she then proceeded to start texting the moment she sat down at the table. Barrett wasn't the only one who saw it or was distrubed by it he just happened to be the only one willing to say anything, he was right in doing that.
9:57
Let's just look at the crux of the matter. The harsh reality is that barrett is bitter and angry because he lost his SECOND election bid. He's even angrier because Mrs. Coleman beat him and therefore prevented his getting a seat on the county commission. Had it not been for her, barrett would have been a commissioner. God blwess you, Mrs. Coleman!
I believe wab will try to find fault with Mrs. Coleman for the next four years.
For the enabler of wrongdoing and anyone else who suffers from the same delusions. I am not bitter about losing the election. I am very disappointed that some groups conspired to target me for defeat and I am very disappointed that others in positions of power allowed themselves to be used to pervert the election process. The evidence from the trial and the testimony is very clear either a gross miscarriage of justice was carried out or an incredible amount of incompetence exist within the election process. Re-reading the testimony of some witnesses and counting the number of times they said, "I don't know or I don't remember" is nothing short of incredible. Now having said that, none of that has anything to do with what happened in the Legislative Committee Meeting where Commissioner Coleman came in late and sat texting the entire time she was at the table supposedly representing the 7th District.
Only the most arrogant among us would attempt such a continuous action without any expectation of being corrected and only the most foolish would, 30 minutes later, attack the one who pointed out the disrespectful, childish behavior and try to make them the villain while trying to justify the behavior.
While the expectation for governmental officials may not always be very high there is a level of expectation that they will at least pay attention to what's going on even if they do not understand it.
to the promoter of strife (aka wab)
Why do you thinki (if that be true) that certain individuals worked hard to see you defeated? I was one of them, and I'll do it again, the Lord willing, should you run for anything magain. This happened ebcause those who presumably worked against you knew the county did not need your services. Why can't you just accept that and move on with your lif? Aren't you supposed to be involved in evangelism and soul-winning anyhow?
Your charge that Mrs. Coleman was texting during the entire meeting is a lie. Why can't you be more truthful? She won, and you lost. That should be the end of it.
May God bless you and your family Mrs. Coleman. You don't deserve this attack.
The report about texting the entire meeting has been supported by others who were there. If Barrett lied tell us how. Vanzant and her crew was the fear-mongers that pushed so hard to defeat Barrett, your influence is as impotent as all your other whining.
4:35
Why don't you people quit whining. It's over; your hero lost big time...again. He is the one who is and will forever be politically impotent in this county. And that sir, is his own fault.
5:08
Lost what? An election? So?
He can do far better for the electorate by making sure those elected are aware that one of us is watching them.
To 4:23
"Aren't you supposed to be involved in evangelism and soul-winning anyhow?"
Yea, and exactly what is it that you are suppose to be doing mam?
4:23
Maybe you'd like for him to give a sermon on selling beer on the church steps to the beer board? You are such a loser dude.
I am confident that this PoS is on very few elected official's minds. They have work to do. Not resort to inane remarks by a distant 4th place challenger.
6:23
Soul-winning. And we certainly can't win souls by presenting ourselves as stumbling blocks. We can't win souls to Christ by calling people names and by making smart-mouthed remarks, can we?
6:23 But you can by enabling wrong doing, gossiping and lying I suppose?
I much prefer the record book God is keeping on me to the one you keep.
Let me see now didn't Paul refer to Christ as being a stumbling block to some, and wasn't it Christ who referred to some folks as robbers, vipers and children of satan? Now before you get your panties in a wad, like you have before when you didn't like the truth and tried to turn it in a different direction, I certainly am not comparing myself in anyway to Christ other than being one of his children. So if you want to use the Bible to justify your attacks at least try not to pick areas that make you look so selective in your backwardness.
wab
And you can be a soul-winner by promoting strife? What a hypocrite.
I'm shocked that you, a "man of God" would be on a public forum suggesting that I wear panties. You really are something else.
Pay him no mind. When the PoS cannot write intelligently he just uses name calling to fill in the voids. A lesson learned no doubt from adolescence but unfortunately not forgotten.
"groups conspired to target me for defeat"
Really? PoS, you have a very misconstrued perception of your own self-importance.
You simply, merely, gloriously lost your election. That it was by no means a close contest belies any clandestine plot affecting you. Do you really think that many people even care about you?
I thought this thread was about trashing Mrs. Coleman?
She did her own trashing.
8:51
No, I believe the promoter of strife was the chief instigator of the attack against Mrs. Coleman, and everybody knows why.
May God bless Mrs. Coleman and her family.
Why was it Mr. Barrett's fault she was texting?
5:19
Who said anything about it being the promoter of strife's fault fault concerning what Mrs. Coleman might have been doing? But would you agree with me that he (wab) is the one who started this attack? Why are you defending him on that?
6:45 Why are you whinning about WAB?
I don't see that 5:19 is defending Barret, he just asked a question and you got on a high horse.
1:14
Nobody accused the pos (wab) of being at fault for anything that went on at the commission meeting unless he was there trying to cause a disturbance.
That's a good on "what Coleman might have been doing at the meeting". How many people have to see a thing before you believe it pothead. I guess since it wasn't gossip you din't pay any attention to it.
6:45 Might have been texting.
6:45 I'm wondering why you are defending Mrs. Coleman.
You have to know texting is wrong when at a meeting.
Mrs. Coleman made a mistake, let's pray she don't do it again and get over it.
12:35
Well let's both tell wab he needs to get over it. She won and he lost.
Guess Coleman had a phone call this morning when she was supposed to be at the committee meeting, she didn't show up at all.
4:21
So would you like to see Mrs. Coleman fired and replaced with barrett? Isn't that really what this is all about?
Since Mrs Coleman is new to the Commission and one of the younger in the crowd, if not the youngest, it's quite possible that she was looking up laws or similar cases or related info, on the discussions at hand, in the US or in the World that were being "discussed" at the meeting. It's a brave new world out there now. Important info available at the blink of an eye with the phone in your hand - this ain't the old Commission anymore - get used to it. Just a thought.
5:04
Exactly. And since Mrs. Coleman is a highly educated lady, it would seem plausible that she would want to research issues. Thank you for a positive post about one of our newly-elected commissioners.
To 5:04 and 7:12
That sound like some lame excuse that could only be thought up by NPR or John Stewart or some other liberal comedian. I can assure you she was not looking up any laws and she never attempted to defend her behavior with such an absurd excuse.
The simple fact is she did something very disrespectful and wrong it was addressed and over. I doubt it will happen again but to make excuses as ludicrous as the one by 5:04 is just shameful.
As for her education she has an advanced degree but according to her testimony in court she proved to be barely literate and has shown no signs of improvement since.
" Important info available at the blink of an eye with the phone in your hand - this ain't the old Commission anymore - get used to it. Just a thought."
Monday, November 29, 2010 5:04:00 PM
OH H NO! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! ROTFLMOL!! PLEASEEEEE MRS VICKY? Ha HA HA HA HA. OH my LORD woman! You may be dumb,HA HA HA HA! Whew.....I haven't had such a good laugh since the chili cook off video excuse you gave about Bob being a master editor of video. HA HA HA HA!
New world you say? HA HA HA HA,.......Sounds like some of your ole wore out ole B S to me.
But you go girl. Thanks so much for the laff! Really.... Thanks!
wab
I would be very careful in making statements about Mrs. Coleman's being barely literate, etc. You keep this up, and I am afraid some of her family is going to come see you. It's just a stinking shame that you continue attacking her. It makes you look bad.
Again, you really need to stop with the inflammatory remarks such as the one you just made. Shame on you!
By the way, I'm sure you have an advanced college degree in nuclear physics or something of that nature. Right? What a joke.
10:04 there you go threatening again.
Have you ever heard Coleman speak if you had you wouldn't be so critical of Barrett saying what most others are thinking.
Barrett signs his name and is in the phone book and lives in the same place for at least five years so if he was doing something so wrong why isn't he in hiding like you?
To 4:59:00 PM
That's not a bad idea. But impossible I'm afraid, seeing as to how it goes against the rule law.
Unfortunately, her district will have to put up with her for the duration of her term, unless of course she simply resigns.
But hey, she might turn out to perform better for the district becuse of this and be voted back in. Who knows?
9:56
No, you are wrong about my threatening anybody. There's more than a subtle difference between issuing a threat and a warning. As we BOTH know, I simply warned barrett that Mrs. Colerman's family just might get enough of his attacks one of these days and come after him. I pray that never happens, but none of us can expect to talk about people in inflammatory ways and get away with it forever.
There's one thing for certain. Should Mrs. Coleman have to run against allen barrett in four years, she will beat him even worse than she did this time.
May God bless you, Mrs. Coleman. You certainly do not deserve this treatment from one who should be ashamed and know better! Keep the faith.
Yes indeed Mrs. Coleman. You don't deserve to be called on for doing something a child in school knows better than to do.
And how dare anyone ever question your authority. Don't they know that once a person is elected into any position of authority, they cease being one of the "great unwashed"? You have been embued with power and majesty and can do anything you want. The rule of law no longer applies to you like it does to all those minor individuals we call citizens.
Why your like someone most holy and venerated. And no one ( Especially Allen Barrett) has any right to dare question anything you do at any time.
May I pray to you Mrs. Coleman?
For I really do believe you alone are truely worthy of my praise.
And if praising you brings about the swift and utter destruction of my great enemey (Allen Barrett)then I will gladly grovel at your feet, and perhaps someday you'll reward me for my continued lap dog and sickening devotion, by supporting me when I run for public office. Again.
Praise be to Mrs Coleman!
5:28
Why didn't you sign your name with your post? I thought you guys wanted an end to anonymity?
pos
Don't you think this has gone a bit too far? Will you do nothing to stop this?
6:16 Don't understand your post.
Unless 5:28 was making fun of Mrs. Coleman instead of praising her.
State or local you will be watched and someone will have something to say about you.
Also I haven't seen the one that defends people, defend Eddie Bass a Giles County man.
Two things that's not likely to die down, texting at a meeting, that is like texting in church, and the chili cook off.
Just have to get use to it and ignore it.
10:04 With your post, you come across as wanting trouble. Post your name and maybe you can find it.
6:14
Why that was Vicky. Couldn't you tell?
11:17
NO! You are totally wrong about that. I want the peace and harmony back that used to exist in this county before a troublemaker and sower of discord started turning friends and families against each other. He and his loyal few followers can deny that, but it is true.
Now, as for what I said about Mrs. Coleman, I was simply warning the promoter of strife that he should be very careful in making inflammatory statements about her on this blog. You can only push people so far. That's not a threat; it's a warning.
Your statement that I just might find trouble if I post my name sounds like a threat to me. Was it?
NO.
To 6:23
Please inform everyone of just when all this "peace and harmony" dominated the county?
This blog did not exist when citizens were denied a voice at public meetings; when the zoning issue was at the center of heated debate; when drug dealers were killing and burning up people; when one of the largest drug operations in the country had it's headquarters in the county; when a former mayor was removed from office by a judge; when a student decided to murder others at Richland school; when people were shooting into the houses of Murrey employees who opposed the union; when people of color could not drink from the same water fountain or attend the same schools as whites; when the KKK was organized; when men in blue and grey uniforms
were at war with each other.
Maybe you're talking about an earlier time when people were being sold at auction; when the settlers came into the valley and ran out the natives. Maybe you're referring to a time before whites came, way back when only the Indians were here but even then there was war between the tribes.
So just when was this great period of "peace and harmony" you long for?
wab
My opinion is that we had peace and harmony before you started causing so much trouble. Does that give you a pretty accurate timeline? I don't think you have any idea how many people you have hurt?
4:02:00 PM
I wonder if you know how many you've hurt? Oh heck! Did I say that out loud?
I'd say Barrett laid out a pretty good case that you're just full of yourself 4:02 are did Barrett just make up all that stuff about there not being peace and harmony before he came?
6:08
To my knowledge, I have not caused harm to anyone. My plea has been and continues to be that all this hate-mongering and stirring up of division and strife stop.
I've lived here all my life and have never seen so much division and discord among the people of Giles County. When will people wake up and realize who is chiefly behind this?
To Mrs. Coleman,
May God bless and keep you and your family this holiday season. I'm so sorry for what you are having to contend with.
6:42 maybe it's time you considered that the people of Giles County like all across the nation have become fed up with the underhanded shenanigans of scrupulous politicians and their friends. Being required to pay more and more from less and less has gotten old to say the least. We are on the verge of a political revolution that will make the November elections look tame by comparison. Being abused by some in power has left most folks with a very bitter sense in their empty pockets.
The revolution occurred in August. Do I need to post the list of casualties again?
9:06:00 PM
Seems like you were one of um too! HA HA HA HA HA!
wab
No, I believe someone or some event in your past has caused you to become so distrusting and bitter. Your paranoia looms large. Those things being said, it continues to puzzle me how you became so arrogant and deluded with feelings of superiority. Is it nature or nurture in your case? It really is a puzzle.
Hey dumbo haven't you figured it out yet everyone IS superior to you. We all understand why you're puzzled it's because your drug infected brain cell has left you dazed and confused.
10:3- Please don't try to displace your own feelings of inadequacy onto me. Have another glass of kool-aid and calm down. Thanks.
Yes if Mrs Coleman runs again I will once again cast my 3 votes for her.
Finally an honest voter.
May God continue to bless Mrs. Coleman and her family.
Yes indeed Bless Mrs. Coleman and have mercry on Vicky the Enabler of Evil, who hides in the shadows of cyber space(not to mention the pages of the local paper), assuming anonimity in order to disparage and slander Allen Barrett, or anyone who dares stand up against intollerance and ignorance in local government, and exposes the deceptive practices of those who would be KING.
Amen
12:26
I thought the promoter of strife was all about intolerance for local government? Maybe that's because he's not a part of it and never will be.
Allen, I will never be fed up with "scrupulous" politicians. That's why I didn't vote for you.
Scrupulouos politicians?
You mean like the ones who call people names like $aggot, and have to shout the fact that they're a county commisioner, and tell others they're nothing in comparison, and slander a private citizen when that citizen is not even there or involved in the altercation of which they were video taped?
Yeah; I'm covinced you are are THE ENABLER OF EVIL.
6:50
Can you not see where you are buying in (hook, line and sinker)to all this hatred and strife? Who do you think loves to get something stirred up and then sit back and watch people go at each other? Why would you want to be a part of that?
Collectively, we can return Giles County to a peaceful place to live, but we must learn to JUST SAY NO to troublemaking. Ok?
Then perhaps it can start with you. Can you lead by example and stop attacking Allen Barrett for posting "Factual" accounts of our elected leaders?
If he is wrong at what he says, we the people can figure it out, without your help. Thank you very much.
5:28
As far as I can tell, nobody is "attacking" allen barrett. On the contrary, it seems that efforts are being made to get him to stop attacking others.
5:28
Question. I respectfully ask why do you feel such a need for barrett's help anyway since you can figure things out on your own? Just wondering. Hasn't he caused enough trouble and unrest in Giles County already?
Just say NO to troublemakers. Good point.
Aren't incomplete or biased "factual accounts" pretty much the same as half truths, which could also be the same thing as lies?
Barret fills the pot and the enabler stirs it.
8:15
No, the promoter of strife fills and stirs the pot, and I beg him to stop.
If he stopped what would you do, you post more than anybody else and first thing of a morning.
Sometimes I noticed your post was last one the day before and you still post first next day.
I thought this thread was about trashing Mrs.Coleman? No?
8:07
In your twisted and childish world: who's to say what the truth is?
3:20 Is anymore texting going on at meetings?
"Just say NO to troublemakers. Good point."
Posting to yourself again Vicky?
Oh yeah. You are just soooooo transparent!
7:32
I'm the person who said just say NO to troublemakers and not Mrs. Harwell. Why don't you sign your name at the end of your posts so you can become transparent? What a joke.
There you go calling yourself "Mrs. Harwell" again. Well at least one person you know respects you.
11:45
You were spewing on practically every thread last evening. Gracious.
Whether I as a man am respected is none of your business. Have a wonderful day and another glass of the kool-aid. You've got it bad pal.
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