Hospital Funds Now Being Dipped Into For Daily Bill Paying !!!!!
During the meeting of the Giles County Legislative Body, it is not a court, one thing revealed was that during the past few months the Financial Management Director has taken it upon her self to ignore the directions of the County Commissioners who months ago passed a resolution that prevented the Principle from the sale of the hospital from being spent. Only the interest is authorized to be used. Now comes Mrs Garner who responded to questions by Commissioner Jackson and others that, "this is a lean year and cash flow is slow". She assured the commissioners that when the tax money came in the money would go back into the hospital fund.
This is much like the situation that arose a couple of years ago with the school budget when a large sum of money vanished from the textbook account. For over a month the School Board and the public were left in the dark about what had happened to the missing. Finally it was reported by Mrs. Garner that the money designated for textbooks had actually been spent on things completely outside the authorizing line item. Mrs Garner was severely criticized by a Board Member and directed to never do such a thing again.
Commissioner Pope asked the direct question of Mrs. Garner, "who authorized you to dip into this fund"? While Mrs. Garner spoke for approximately five minutes in response to that question she never once came close to answering it, even after the commissioner asked it again.
One interesting thing brought up by Commissioner Reedy was that when the Sun Trust Building was being bought commissioners had been told that the Hospital Funds could not be used because they were all tied up in interest bearing investments. When Mrs. Garner used the money suddenly there was no problem with them being in interest bearing investments. Seems there are many things that can be or can't be done based on convenience.
This topic is scheduled to be discussed at the next Budget Meeting and Financial Management Committee Meeting.
posted by Allen Barrett | 10:22 PM
479 Comments:
Looks like someone is after Mrs. Garner again. I wonder why. Who will be the next victim?
So 6:10 you have no problem with the unauthorized use of the hospital money or Mrs. Garner violating the Commission rules? If she is above the
Commission rules then where would you place the end of her authority? Are there any laws she should be held accountable to in your opinion?
Would you have any problem if she sued you?
Is it true that Loretta Garner's maiden name is Harwell and is she related to Terry Harwell?
11:51
Why don't you call up there and ask her instead of trying to stir up trouble? You disgruntled few just never cease to amaze me. You know...jealousy, resentment, and hatred are very detrimental to your mental health. Do you even realize who started all this stuff? Think.
12:31 Why are getting so angry over a question? Instead of attacking some one and getting defensive you could call and get the answer and post it for every one as opposed to spewing venom and hatred.
Maybe you are defensive because you are one of the Harwell's and already know the answer.
All 12:31 needs to do is call and ask Mrs. Garner. There's no need to stir up trouble like this. And that is what makes me so defensive as you call it.
As someone else is always saying on here, I'm glad that you can read the thoughts and intents of my heart. What a laugh.
Stop trying to cause trouble for Pete's sake!
So are they related?
11:51 Thanks for the reminder. I heard that a while back and forgot about it.
No relation.
4:56
Thanks for clarifying. Perhaps that will shut them up, but I doubt it.
4:58 You want a citizen that has a right to inquire into possible conflicts of interest to shut up? You would do well to take your own advice since you only attack any one who asks simple questions. You are real trash.
4:56 how do we know you are telling the truth or even know. For all we know you are 4:58?
A little more investigation needs to go into this and it should be brought up at a meeting.
5:13, you are gossiping troublemaker. People like you make me sick. What a pain in the rear. What happened to you in life that made you so miserable? Loretta Garner is not related to Terry Harwell.
5:13
No, I want the troublermakers to stop griping and trying constantly to find fault with everyone...other than with themselves.
Nobody I know of has ever said that a citizen has no right to inquire. I think you've been listening to the troublemaker-in-chief a bit too often, and you are becoming just like him. Do you realize that? Now there's something to be proud of (sic)!
More investigation? Bring this up at a meeting? Are you talking about having the "investigative reporter" begin an inquisition? Do you want this brought up at a CAVE meeting? What a laugher.
You really need a job or some hobby other than stirring up strife. And, I might add, aren't you gossiping?
Is asking a question and not taking the word of an anonymous post as well as suggesting an issue be looked into, where a conflict of interest may exist, really a reason to get your panties in a wad?
I only asked if they were related so that is not gossip. Those who want to find the truth will but some one is very defensive about a simple question.
8:33
No, I am very defensive about troublemaking, and you know darn well what I am talking about. Why don't you give your name and perhaps we can start investigating your life?
You guys don't trust anybody, do you? Do you even trust yourselves? So sad.
When I start taking tax payer money as my pay check then I will happily be accountable to the citizens who pay my salary or elected me and I certainly would not mind simple questions from citizens.
If a person does not want to be scrutinized then get a job in the private sector.
But it is a funny coincidence that the job Commissioner Harwell now has should have never been put back in the budget because it failed the vote. Where there is smoke there is fire.
9:45 We can only hope we have a few commissioners who will raise enough questions about this whole affair and get others on board to make things right by the citizens. Doubt they will get straight answers but then they will need to start digging for themselves. It would be refreshing to see a few commissioners stand up for what is right and not just accept the same ole sameO. Thats why we elected them. They would have the support of the majority of citizens.
You people are worthless. Our commissioners have the support of the majority of the citizens. That is how they get elected. YOU are the minority. Get over it.
2:14
CAVE is just jealous and resentful because they and/or their people can't get elected to anything. Just realize that and pay them no attention.
Two different people post 4 minutes apart. lol
This is Thanksgiving, I just now had time to see what foolishness has been put on the blog.
Is the blog all you have to do?
2:25
Then what are you doing here posting? Whos's counting posts?
I posted at 2:18, which was seven minutes prior to yours.
Looks like some people need a job or hobby. I guess this blog is the hobby.
GTC Says:
The cold fact remains that Ms. Garner was not able to answer either Mr. Jackson or Mr. Pope when questioned as to how the County was required to use hospital reserve funds without permission. She just mumbled that "It was automatic"
It seems to me that Ms. Garner has no clue regarding what the current balance of available funds are. She undoubtedly had no clue that the State would attach reserve funds so that Giles County would not default on checks written. Yes, we can very close to bouncing our public checks.
What is really amazing is that we have a Finance Director who is not willing or is incapable of providing proactive leadership and guidance to Giles County in regards to financial matters. We also have a County Executive would is either culpable or just as ignorant to allow such behavior.
Mr. Jackson, Mr. Pope, Mr. Reedy posed interesting questions regarding the use of restricted funds; and, Ms. Garner just stood there like a deer staring into oncoming headlights.
And to rub additional salt into the wound .....Did not Ms. Garner construct an annual budget anticipating that funds would be realized from the TDOT weigh-station that she said would commence opperations in October???? Yes she did. I am willing to bet that Ms. Garner has not revised her spending projections downward. I am willing to bet that she will continue to allow the illegal use of restructed funds.
Our elected commission now has a very interesting road to follow to correct this mess. Seems that they are now forced to consider raising the property tax rate and/or adopt a wheel tax. I am sure that they will not demand lower spending.
GTC
With so many out of a job and Social Security not being enough to pay for groceries and meds, people can't pay more taxes on anything. So when the hospital money is used up how will Ms Garner meet the payroll?
9:18
Why don't you address that question to Mrs. Garner?
Very good points GTC.
10:00
If Mrs. Garner does not feel she has to answer the concerned County Commissioners' questions why would she answer a concerned citizen's?
10:00 Why ask Garner, you seem to know everything?
I think what 9:18 was really saying is there will be no money to pay you if that happen.
9:18 I have often wondered the same thing.
How will all States and Federal government meet their payroll when there is no more money?
Will the rich keep them up?
What happen during the depression?
At least then there was lots of people raising what they ate, not so today. I wonder how many big farmers still have vegetables gardens.
We still have a few people that have gardens that aren't farmers.
Last year my garden was so bad I'm thinking if not doing it again.
I'm afraid I better rethink it. Small tomatoes are better than none at all.
Is GTC a former county executive?
12:31 If he is put him back in.
Right. If it is, there is a good reason he isn't anymore. 3:05, I think if Jesus Christ was County Executive you would start complaining about him within a month. You have to make people miserable that are required to be around you. That includes your family.
4:36 You must be talking about yourself.
I will agree if Jesus Christ was county executive he wouldn't please everybody. He didn't when he walked the earth. There is no pleasing everybody on anything.
I bet you do make your family miserable.
Are you so inept that you have to repeat everything someone else says? If you want to be mean, please try to be original.
I think the person was showing how hypocritical you are 6:24.
6:2 Did someone hurt your feelings?
You people are so stupid that you don't even know how you are arguing with. What a bunch of clowns. No wonder everyone in town thinks this blog is a comedy website. A bunch of dumb people that can't even debate a topic. This site makes Giles County look very bad. At least the enabler is explaining that you morons are a minority.
Does the enabler say anything else 10:42?
Sunday 10:42am I agree most of this blog is stupid. I've often wondered if it was one person blogging on both sides of the fence just to have something to do.
I've never seen anyone tell what Barrett said was wrong except DAW, so leaves lots of people thinking what WAB said was correct.
11:00,
Anybody that has a brain knows that Allen Barrett is a giant windbag that makes up this stuff. He is a hypocrite. He can deny it all he wants, but it is true. He causes problems when there shouldn't be any. When you have such a narcissitic personality that you lose touch with reality, you really don't know that you are wrong. I think that is where WAB is mentally. I wouldn't worry so much about this blog. I think it is only a handful of people that post. I think DAW probably figured that out. It was fun to see him shoot Barrett down though.
Since a lot of people don't know WAB, they don't know he is a windbag.
Have you ever posted why what he said about Vanzant or a Commissioner was wrong and what really was happening?
Just saying WAB is a windbag just don't prove what he said was wrong.
Since no one knows who you are, maybe you have problems. I don't know either one of you I don't know if you both have problems.
A few things WAB said have been in the paper so if that was true why is the rest not true? I'm left wondering.
Don't tell me to go to commissioner meetings, that's impossible for me.
I've called some commissioners, no answer or call back.
I have to go by what I read and gossip. I think gossip is just that and can't always be trusted.
Have you ever listened to a President debate after it's over the news men tell you what was said, change channels and they are telling what was said. Wait a minute they don't agree and I didn't understand it the way either one of them did.
I would like for someone to prove what WAB said was wrong. Sureley if he's wrong it can be proved.
10:50 You seem to be the only enabler here....promoting a bald-faced lie told by a man who claims a closeness with God. What a joke.
It's funny but I never read any statement made by DAW that was supported by fact. Many asked him to provide any documentation to support his statements but the only thing he provided in writing turned out to be a manipulated copy of a rule that never existed. I always thought DAW got off here because he was a bigger wind bag than what you claim Barrett to be.
Whoever posted DAW proved WAB was wrong is incorrect - it was WAB put DAW down as it was proved DAW was reading an OLD list of commissioner committee assignments that had been given him by Vanzant's office, even containing names of commissioners who came off the board two years ago, including a deceased one! - Remember that?
Do you need to post twice 2:41 and 2:47? DAW proved Barrett wrong several times. He also tried to offer solutions for the problems the county was facing. The list had nothing to do with the topic. The sentences at the bottom proved Barrett wrong. It also came out in the paper and in the commissioners meetings that DAW was telling the truth about the timing of committee meetings. DAW also proved Barrett to be wrong about the reasons he didn't get to speak at the special called meeting. He also called him out when Barrett said that Zillow was the best place to get an estimate of your home value. I can keep going if you like? I also remember DAW asking Barrett to back up some statements that were made in posts from long ago and Barrett didn't do it. He was doing alot of good by posting on here. He definitely made me see the evil side of Allen Barrett.
5:31
Excellent post. I couldn't agree with you more.
We now know you are delusional because the local paper printing the statements given to them by the very people who chose to enact an unwritten arbitrary law to suppress a persons differing opinion is not fact but merely opinion.
Barrett posted state laws in support of his opinion instead of some tampered piece of paper with an un-official statement in a different font.
In DAW's opinion I am sure he thinks he called Barrett out on Zillow, but others would think differently.
I could go on but as far as DAW showing any verifiable proof that held up under scrutiny to support his opinion is not what I read on here. I could not believe that DAW could not tell the difference in state law and a out dated memo.
7:38, you didn't post one thing that proved DAW didn't prove Barrett wrong. Just because you tend to agree with Barrett on everything doesn't make it so. Everything that DAW posted about the committee meetings was held true in the paper. Barrett not getting to speak at the special called meeting was proven true by DAW posting the T.C.A. Even Barrett retracted his previous statement about Zillow when DAW posted, from Zillows website, that Giles County property values couldn't be given a proper assessment. Zillow says my property is worth $40k more than the tax assessors office value. You folks have got to understand that a man that doesn't get elected to office will hold a grudge against the ones that can. If Barrett was just an average citizen speaking for the citizens he would tone down his rhetoric and quit showing his bias toward certain individuals. Common sense will tell you that he wants to gain more for himself than the people around him. He acts like Obama. The me me me attitude doesn't get anyone very far in life.
FF
I don't know if DAW was posting fact or not but he tried to give something not silly fussing like is going on here today.
The problem is that when someone like DAW starts posting on this blog, they get thrown over the coals. Barrett and his followers make a personal attack because they can't argue with common sense and truth. I trust that DAW was doing all he could to point out the false accusations against some good people that didn't deserve it.
FF
If DAW would have provided any proof that was verifiable then people would have accepted it but he attacked people and expected people to take his opinion as fact and that is never going to happen.
Because you, 10:36, are programmed to believe only one thing. The thing you need to get through your thick skull is that the majority of people in this county would stand behind DAW 110%. DAW provided all the proof that he needed to show. You are going to lose everytime because you have no justifiable cause. Allen Barrett and the few that support him are a joke. It would be hard to count the amount of eyes that roll evertime a new letter is written to the editor in the paper. If you are not happy with the way things are going in Giles County, it is better you just keep quiet. Giles County citizens already know that what DAW stated is fact. They don't even have to look at this blog. The paper backs all the information that he provided. People like you need to be attacked. You are the problem. It just took someone like DAW to get you to thinking that you were following a false prophet. Now you have to sit around and know that everything you post is just making you look that much more guilty of jealousy toward those that run the county.
FF
Fleet
I too believe the barrett followers are partakers in his evil deeds and are just as guilty as he is. They have brains and should be able to figure out buy now who the real problem is in Giles County. And yet, there's one or maybe two on this blog who defend him regardless of what he does. I think it's clear that this man holds a huge grudge toward those who get elected to office when he can't.
Good post.
How easily we get distracted from the point. Back to the question on hand. Is the Financial Manager authorized to access the money without the commission's authority? If not, what is the commission and the County Executive going to do about it? I think it needs to be investigated first (by the commission) then if proven, steps need to be taken to handle the situation.
FF,
I don't have any thing against our paper but every one knows they are not the most thorough in their reporting. And I read what the paper reported and it did report what the county officials but the county officials did not follow T.C.A. and the papers reporting was one sided as Mr. Barrett was not interviewed.
Points are being disputed and only one side is interviewed and that is not good journalism.
I know you do not speak for the majority of the people and the fact you defend DAW and are the only one that thinks DAW's opinions are facts leads me to believe you are DAW.
As far as pulling money out of the hospital fund, maybe now that Terry Harwell is working for Mrs. Garner she does not believe the Commission has any authority over what she does. And she may be right.
I am not DAW. Unless my parents have been lying to me for all these years.
FF
I suppose that since I "just make up this stuff" there really wasn't a County Legislative Meeting, obviously since the County Executive continues to refer to it by the antiquated and incorrect title "the county court", there wasn't. So Mrs Garner didn't actually admit using the hospital funds for daily expenses? Commissioners Jackson, Pope, Reedy and others didn't really question her violation of Commission rules.
If that's the position you're taking good luck, unfortunately those things happened and your denial doesn't change the truth. Your trying to redirect the conversation away from the truth to focus on insignificant personal attacks will not work either. The truth is out and can not be put back in the box.
More "truths" I see. Do you ever tire of trying to get something stirred up?
To Fleet Fox,
You are showing a remarkable consistency at being wrong. There were no personal attacks by me against DAW. As I have said before I have a certain respect for him in signing his name and attempting to provide more than opinion to support his claims. It was unfortunate that he failed to dig deeper in search of the truth instead of taking the word of people proven to be unreliable.
I am still waiting for him or anyone else to prove me wrong on the tax issue, the violations of Constitutional rights or anything else I have stated as fact. That doesn't mean I think I am infallible only that no one has provided sufficient documentation to prove me wrong.
You say that "the majority of people in this county would stand behind DAW 110%". If he was right I would also stand behind him but you seem to be saying that because the majority would stand firmly behind him that makes him right. I would remind you that at one time the majority stood behind the belief the Earth was flat and the sun revolved around it. The majority believed only owners of property could vote. The majority believed people of color shouldn't drink from the same water fountain as people with lighter skin color.
The majority of some communities saw nothing wrong with lynching those who were different. Just because you are in the majority doesn't make you right.
I am impressed that you are so aware of how so many people respond to things I say or write, however I do wonder how you can see all those eyes roll when a letter to the editor comes out.
Your statement, "If you are not happy with the way things are going in Giles County, it is better you just keep quiet" is very revealing and takes me back to those who thought the world was flat. According to your way of thinking
Pythagoras, Parmenides and Aristotle should have just kept quiet about the earth being spherical. Those Wright boys should have kept quiet about that stupid idea that men could fly.
You state, "The paper backs all the information that he (DAW) provided. People like you need to be attacked. You are the problem." Now is that any way for a "Christian gentleman" to talk.
I suppose the majority would show strong support for the paper and county if thy were drawing pay from them. Do yo really think people believe that the paper backed up everything DAW wrote on this blog, if you do obviously you suffer from greater problems than have been revealed thus-far?
I would beg that you return to the subject instead of trying to continually obfuscate the truth with all your little red herrings.
Question, should those who violate a county resolution, legally passed by the Legislative Body of the county, be subjected to disciplinary actions?
Barrett, why must you write a novel to try and refute any true statements that have been made about you? The Fleet Fox was correct in his statements. It doesn't matter how long and vague your post is, it will not make you look correct. Get over the fact that the majority of the county does think like DAW.
2:30 Why wont you accept Barrett knows what he is talking about and is correct in his statements? Get over it.
wab
Looks like you have again been given some truth from 2:30. Why can't you just accept it and move on?
Obfuscate? What a laugh. I forgot; we are supposed to be impressed.
I for one am impressed with wab. He at least signs his name and tell more to us than our local radio and newspapers do. Thanks Mr. Barrett. Keep up the good work!
Sorry 2:30 I forgot your reading comprehension doesn't allow for more than three words in a sentence and one paragraph per post.
Seems you have three choices.
1) You could just stop trying to undertake such monumental tasks as reading a whole group of words at one sitting.
2)You could practice reading instead of blabbing about things you don't understand. Your comprehension might improve and your blabbing would decrease, a situation we could all live better with.
3) You could just stay off the blog if it's so upsetting to you. Last time I checked there was no brown shirts surrounding your house and forcing you to log on.
Barrett, who are you to say that someone doesn't understand something. You have yet to understand that you are a very small fish in a big pond. You keep posting nonsense on this blog and have no remorse as to how it affects peoples lives negatively. You are yet to understand that you ARE a troublemaker that earns no respect from your peers because of the way you approach any subject. You have yet to understand that you got beat by someone that I would even agree is too incompotent to be a county commissioner. When your attitude changes and you decide to try and be civil in your conversation and actions, maybe then everyone in the county will be as understanding as you claim to be.
4:01
Is that you again wab? You ought to have been a stand-up comic.
4:54
Thanks for clarifying another of wab's misunderstandings. Did you notice the smart-aleck and condescending remarks in his post? Narcissistic and delusional indeed. Shameful.
4:54 Who are you saying is incompetent to be a commissioner - Harwell, Campbell or Coleman?
6:08
I thought all three were incompetent....according to the one who resents them.
6:08 I would like to know that also.
That's worse than name calling in my book.
Wonder how Mr. Campbell, Mr. Harwell or Mrs. Coleman like being called incompetent?
Christian Gentleman, if that wasn't your post what do you think about that? Sounded like someone got so upset they didn't think about what they were saying.
7:38
I'm the one whose religion and manner of living you scoff at, and I did Not POST 6:08.
I don't think any of the three are incompetent. I'm fairly certain that opinion is not shared by barrett.
Anyone that had rather text than listen during meetings is showing incompotency. I saw it happen more than the one time Barrett got out of line and tried to put her in her place. If you had rather play on your phone then listen, you are not representing your voters.
8:15 Why was Barrett 'out of line' in trying to point out to Coleman she should be attentive to the business of the committee she supposedly serves on (and gets paid for), instead of texting during business? The texting should have been stopped by the chairman or the other committee members instead of relying on Barrett to do their job for them. Somebody had to do it. The texting behavior also shows contempt.
Well as usual, no one can seem to stay on task. I do not understand this, I have a legitimate question, and I can't even get it recognized. The BHC is attacking Barrett and those who support him, and Barrett can't seem to understand that there are better ways to fight them. Y'all are worse than dogs and bones. Now back to my question.
Is the Financial Manager authorized to access the money without the commission's authority? If not, what is the commission and the County Executive going to do about it? I think it needs to be investigated first (by the commission) then if proven, steps need to be taken to handle the situation.
Can anyone answer this?
3:44, I know that it was wrong for her to do it. But, it was not Barretts place to point it out in the manner that he did. As usual, he made a smart-elic remark about it. It would be the County Executives job to reprimand her. Barrett should have gone through the proper channels to bring it to their attention. That is his biggest weakness, he can't follow any rules because he thinks he should be top priority.
7:18
Here's a question. Why was barrett sitting there analyzing every move Mrs. Coleman made? Why was he watching her so closely? After all, she is a FEMALE who, along with Mr. Harwell and Mr. Campbell, beat him out of a commission seat he so badly wanted. It was NOT his place to make a big deal of it. Furthermore, I understand Mrs. Coleman was NOT just texting out of boredom but rather due to a family sickness. He's always criticizing those who he claims think they can read his mind or determine the innermost thoughts of his heart. Why can't he make that same application to himself?
The truth of the matter is that barrett didn't know the whole story but, in my opinion, was quick to point the finger at mrs. Coleman. Such a shame, and I can't understand why his followers can't see this.
Bitterness, jealousy, and resentment can eat a man up inside if he lets it.
To 8:24 Once again you prove your lack of understanding and like an alcoholic who has black outs, you just make up things to fill in the blank spaces.
What happened was very different from your version so I take it you weren't in the room at the time.
Commissioner Coleman came in late to the committee meeting sat down in front of and slightly to my left. She immediately began texting or playing on her phone I could not tell which. I said nothing although it was obvious to everyone there.
Finally after a discussion in which Commissioner Coleman had no input a vote was called for. After the Chairman called on Commissioner Coleman twice to vote and was ignored both times I stated you may have to wait until she gets off the phone. At that Commissioner Coleman became very angry and verbally attacked me. At no time did she say anything about a family sickness, only that it was her work.
After the meeting was adjourned Mrs Coleman began to verbally attack me again telling me to stay out of her business that the call was about her work. To that I stated this is your work right now and as my representative I'd appreciate you paying attention to it. The Chairman asked me stop and I turned away from Mrs Coleman and picked up my stuff from the chair as she continued to rant and left the room under the direction of another commissioner.
Several on the committee agreed that what she had done was inappropriate and rude.
I repeat not one time did Mrs Coleman state anything about any sickness or family crisis only that the call was about her work.
I apologize to 6:08AM for getting off topic but something must be responded to.
wab
Whatever Mrs. Coleman's business on her phone, it was NONE of yours.
Who could blame her for saying something to you? After all, wasn't it YOU who tried to get her dismissed from the job she won handlily over you? And she knows how you feel about her. When you made a smart remark about her being on the phone, I suppose she, like most h8uman beings, took offense to that and in view of how you have treated her.
You kinow, sour grapes will ruin a person's life. Repent and forget it. Isn't that what Christ would have us all do?
If Coleman was paid to do county business ain't that what she should of been doin. I'm just asking.
I tried to talk to her at church but she don't got time for nobody but the big wheels. She is dumber than dirt.
If she is dealing with personal business on tax payer time then it is the citizens business.
11:25 and 11:08
Let's see; you guys have gone after Terry Harwell and Now Mrs. Coleman. Is it safe to say that Tommy Campbell is next? I'll bet he will be. After all, they are all 7th district commissioners.
GYC Says to 29 Nov at 6:08 AM
NO! The Finance Director is not allowed to access restricted funds without permission. The County Commission passed a resolution, at the time of the sale of Hillside Hospital, restricting the access and use of the financial proceeds of that sale. Only the interest earned is allowed to be used without Commission permission.
Will the County Executive reprimand Ms. Garner? I seriously doubt it. Will the County Commission sanction Ms. Garner or her Boss? I doubt it. It is the way of life in Giles County that if you do something that is possibly illegal or requires prior approval of your supervisor; there is little to no repercussion for your actions. Ms. Garner has not and I dare say will not accept the fact that she acted beyond her level of authority. I also doubt that the County Executive; who is ultimately responsible, will assume any blame in this matter. The end result is …….. restricted funds have been used without authority and no one will reap any repercussion. Though we have an Audit Committee and an Ethics Committee I say that neither will lift a finger.
Thank You,
GTC
JV and TH probably told LG it would be alright before she did it.
If so do you think they will complain and the others must be afraid to.
So, if we are to stick to the original topic of this thread, we have a Financial Manager who is using funds illegally, but for the right reasons? Yes? Then, what will the county commission, or the county executive, do about this? This is not something to be swept under the rug, it is something that needs to be taken care of, ASAP.
By the way, Allen, you are just as bad as these other idiots that get on here and try to stir up trouble. So they lie and misrepresent themselves, let it go. People will belive what they believe, you don't have to defend against stupidity. Post your topic, let people talk about it, then when the enablers, (yes, there is more than one) try to get under your skin and get the thread off topic, just gently guide it back. Their opinion is just that. An opinion. Let them have theirs. Like Ron White said, you can't fix stupid, and they are. So don't try to fix them, let them be idiots without your help. If you argue with them, you just stoop to their level of idiocy, and it makes you as bad as them. Be blessed Allen, I hope the enablers are blessed also.
5:04 But the true enablers (maybe two at the most) are those who promote troublemaking and strife.
Have you read the editorial in todays newspaper, it sure hit the nail on the head and proved that what WAB wrote in this topic was 100% right. I wonder what the enablers will say about it being in the paper or did they make it all up to.
I bet the enablers will say WAB had that put in the paper. lol
GTC,
You are right that nothing will be done. The ethics committee would be a dead end as Terry Harwell is on it and if he had to recuse himself for conflict of interest JV appoints the one to fill his place.
I wonder if citizens can bring something like a class action lawsuit against members of the government and employees? It would be nice to have a starting point as to what type of case it would be. Something for injunctive relief, in this case replacing employees and perhaps government officials that do not follow written protocol and take it upon themselves to set policy.
7:01
Yes, that's what the taxpayers need in Giles county - another lawsuit. You guys just never stop.
GTC, why don't you voice your concerns to the commissioners in your district rather than complaining on this blog? All I ever hear from you are negative comments. Maybe you are just that type of person, always seeing the glass as half empty. Probably doesn't make you very many friends.
I'm back, and I have the same questions for Rabid the Enabler as I had before. Who wants to bet they he-she will blow right over them and never attempt to address the real issues? Any type of questionable or unethical behavior by a public official should be questioned by the citizens who gave them power. To refrain from doing so is to shirk your American duty. Rabid, you blew off Harwell's behavior on the square that long ago day as, "maybe he was a little out of line, but---" then you proceeded to justify it. A commissioner ON DUTY AT A PUBLIC MEETING was texting like a teenager on my nickle and Mr. Barrett was wrong for pointing that out? Are you serious? Yet it was ok for her to blow up? How professional-NOT. But it does seem to spotlight how qualified she is for the job, not to mention common courtesy and cell phone manners. Anybody with common sense and consideration would have quietly excused themselves and left the room IF it was that important. You had no problem with that but if Mr. Barrett was attending a meeting and sitting in the audience as a private citizen playing with a cell and someone on the panel asked him a question that he ignored a couple of times, bet you'd have plenty to say about that. It is evident that funds were misappropriated in clear violation of the commission rules, but you in your self-righteous indignation blame that on Allen Barrett's trouble making! Get it through your head, we are their bosses, their supervisors and every single one of them owe us an answer EVERY single time we ask it. They are NOT above the law and it is only troublemaking to ignore it. That's the way you would have things be. The personal way that you receive posts from Mr. Barrett leaves NO doubt that you are one of the officials or the spouse of one. You should be horrified at the idea of the violation of expenditures, regardless of how it came to light. Your little tirade re: Mr. Barretts name calling is growing thin. You and your (all one or two) are the only ones doing that and to a private citizen to boot. Mr. Barrett points out behaviors and gives examples that can be verified if one chooses. You pound out what you perceive are clever come backs and sign off as anonymous and feel as you have single handedly saved the officials of Giles County, who by the way, you yourself must think very little of. Otherwise, you would let them speak for themselves. Another question I've asked and never received an answer for is how did you arrive at the number, the so called "one or two at most", followers of Mr. Barret's? Please share with us who those are or at least how you arrived at the number. Talk about hypocrisy, you would have Mr. Barrett tarred and feathered even though he is a private citizen if his words were even close to the trash talk you and some of the commissionsers engage in, not to mention the unethical and possibly illegal actions. My favorite response of yours though is a few posts back when you stated "It's a fact that Mr. Barrett did something, (my opinion)". What you were accusing him of at the time escapes me, but your statement was classic. If your mindset was not so obvious and delusional, it would almost be entertaining.
Sincerely, (my first post in many months)
Deana
Wow, that is not your first post in many months. You just put it in a different format by not posting in paragraphs. Who do you really think you are fooling? I couldn't even read the whole thing because it was so foolish and boring. Also, you used to post as Deanna not Deana. You should probably make a note of that in the future. This is better than saturday night live. Even morons know how to spell their own name.
There goes perfect in 11:02, she post when she said she couldn't read all the post. Oh yes I know you are a Christian gentleman and I said she.
How many times have you made typo and you have the nerve to say something about how some one else types.
What does it matter if she said Deane or Santa Clause. You say anonymous.
Deana, I'm sorry you got blamed for some of my post. the christian Gentleman knows what's best and right.
Not a problem 11:57. It just proves my point-notice not one single issue was mentioned. Not one single question was acknowledged. . I still chuckle over the "it's a fact---(my opinion)" statement made.
Of course, we will both be accused of being Mr. Barrett, so I will apologize to him for that. Rapid which is a name I gave him during the last campaign comes from his rabid defense of Janet Vanzant. It is a fact, (not my opinion) that he-she cost her my vote, but all that matters to Rabid is that Mr. Barrett won nothing. That is all this person cares about. Can't you just picture them finishing their post, pushing the "send" button and strutting like Peter Pan singing "Oh the cleverness of me!) But I've yet to get one single answer to any of my questions from the basic "all one or two" to the answering to the name of "Enabler" while professing to hate the title. Posting anonymous but that sure lights a fire under him-her. Like I said, the vehemence with which they react even though they hide behind anonymous, let's me know it is personal, and they are really afraid of something. As Shakespeare once said, "me thinks he doth protest too much."
(I think it was Shakespeare,)
Sincerely,
DeanNa
Why must you ramble on so much "deanna"? You sound like you are going to stroke out at any moment. Why do you even care what the enabler says? You stalk him like he stalks Barrett. I think your quote pertains to you as well.
Deana,very good posts.I agree 100%.
deana,
I'm wondering if you are not the former william james who used to get on here popping off just as you do? Possibly barrett?
There you go again calling me names. Why do you insist on perpetuating the lie allen barrett told on me that I willfully go about supporting wrongdoing? That was a lie when he told it, and it remains as such today. He just didn't realize that I would take such issue with him over that. I am greatly offended. I do find it laughable that he of all people doesn't have the audacity to call me a Christian gentleman. By the way, that's who I am.
Certainly, you and anyone else may question government, but don't you think you have made your point? Look, if there's something illegal, then go to the proper authorities and file your complaint. Stop whinning like a little child who is pitching a fit because he didn't get his way or because he can't get elected to an office.
Yes, barrett was wrong in making a smart-aleck remark as he did to Mrs. Coleman. I wish she had slapped that arrogant grin off his face for that. Oh, but then there would have been another lawsuit, right? As for his sitting in the audience playing with a cell phone, I think that would be perfectly ok as long as it would keep him from showing his rear end.
You say I'm one of the officials or a spouse of one. Wrong. I've told you more than once that I have no relationship with any of the ones you guys constantly try to smear and belittle. As smart as you claim to be, it just looks like you would remember that. Please make a mental note. No wait, write that down and stick it on your refrigerator door.
No, I don't want barrett tarred and feathered and ran out of town on a rail. However, I'm a big fan of his moving away. As much as I disdain the way he has caused so much trouble in Giles County, I would hold my nose and go help him pack. Oh yes.
Yes, I recall stating something was a fact and then placing "my opinion" in parentheses. In retrospect, I had a chuckle over that myself. But I have been warned to be very very careful how things are worded on here. That's why I said it was my opinion. But surely, you got the point. Didn't you?
8:13 Are you at work now?
I have the day off today and tomorrow before you ask.
Now Deana or Deanna is agreeing with his/her own posts. This blog is so confusing. Then you have some hen wanting to be a troublemaker and ask if someone is at work. This blog is proof that some people should not be allowed to vote or drive or get out of the house.
8:13 AM Would it be correct in that it was your supervisor who warned you to be careful about how you post?
9;54
No, that would be incorrect. I don't have a supervisor. Do you?
I posted 9:24 and don't even know Deana or what ever the name is.
So Mr. Hot shot you don't know everything.
Are you Janet Vanzant?
So 12:52 answers to no one. He or she can post all day.
Just for the record it is a known fact (My Opinion) that the self identified Christian gentleman has now been fully revealed to be none other than Dan Watson government employee and part time writer for the Pulaski Citizen..
wab
Then there must be two of us who consider themseves Christian gentlemen. And how dare YOU to scoff at Christianity. Can you recall a time when you held that near and dear?
There Barrett goes being a hypocrite again. Stating his opinion as fact. I hope Dan gets word of this and makes you look bad in another article.
Where did he scoff at Christianity? It seems he is scoffing at one who claims to be Christian but whose actions do not dictate that of a Christian.
Just my opinion.
So he is basically describing himself.
7:14
Self-identified Christian gentleman? Oh yes, he was making a smart-aleck remark toward Dan Watson.
How long does this man get away with these antics? More importantly, how long will his faithful few continue to defend him?
I only pointed out what seemed more sensible than an attack on Christianity. Anything else you read in to it is your problem and not mine 7:43 and 9:48.
How can anyone balance a checking account if they don't know when money is deposited and when a check is wrote?
I read somewhere that Ms Townsend's office deposited the money taken in from taxes, as should be, but is a deposit notice not sent to the FD the next morning?
With computers you can have a program that tells deposited added and checks subtracted every time and give a balance so you can see when you run out of money.
Who did payrolls before we had the Finance Department? I take it the School board did their payroll out of the money they were given and they knew when it ran out. Same with Highway department and Ambulance.
Is their money not kept separate now or is all in one pot.
Does everyone pay their property taxes on time? The way things are now, I think there will be more than before can't pay.
How long is before a place is taken over for back taxes? Then what if it don't sale or do they always sale?
This may sound like stupid questions to some, but it's no more stupid than this grumbling that's been on here.
As usual, these threads get so misdirected, it is unbelievable. Someone identifies themselves ie Deanna, and you blessed angels, can't even believe that. This thread has nothing to do with someone's religion, gossip, or any of myriad other things you saints have been talking about. It has to do with the "Misappropriation or Misuse of Hospital Funds." Get over your own blessed egos and talk about the subject. If you can't do that then shut-up and let those of us who want to discuss the topic do so.
Please tell me, anyone, if they know, what does the county commission plan on doing about this.
Give up Deana Deanna Concerned Citizen Teacher Scared Teacher Frank, just post as one person and people will give you more respect. Unless all of those names are on your birth certificate? This is starting to get rediculous.
I have heard from some of the commissioners that they are very concerned but when it is brought up for discussion there are those in the commission and the County Executive who try to quiet it.
We need to support those commissioners that are trying to do the right thing, and that means holding people accountable for violating rules and regulations. What other rules and regulations are not being followed in that office?
If any of you read and comprehended the article in the paper this week you would have realized how this happened and that it isn't Ms. Garners fault. I guess you had rather keep going on about it because that is all you know. This is an instance where Barrett jumped to a conclusion.
HO HO HO.
To7:06 If I jumped to a conclusion about the Hospital Money being used what did Commissioners Jackson, Pope, and Reedy jump to?
Not only can I know when, where and for what every check I write clears the bank I know exactly what my balance is at any minute of the day. This also applies to any charges on my credit cards. So what is the problem with the Financial Management Office not knowing where the money is and when it's there just a lack of lazy communications between offices, antiquated computer programs, lack of understanding or caring I don't know. What I do know is this problem doesn't exist in most other counties both larger and smaller.
If the Hospital Fund was not tapped into we are told that the checks would have bounced my question is what if there had been no hospital fund to use as back up what would have happened?
The explanation was in part that this was a slow period for collecting property taxes, well this has historically been a slow period for collecting property taxes since property taxes have been collected and will continue to be a slow period until the due date is changed to August or September.
The question is since everyone knows this why weren't better plans made to meet the problem? I believe that this problem faced by the county, like most other problems, faced by the county, was handled the same way no planning, just wait and see what happens. This county will never move forward until we have forward thinking people directing it. Today, unfortunately not many officials plan for future problems they choose instead to simply wait and react when they arrive, that's why we blew through 6 million in reserve funds during the past four years.
The question was asked what will be done about this violation of county policy the answer is exactly what was done about the County Executive when she vetoed the commission on the Beer vote, The same thing that was done to department heads who refused to comply with the Financial Management Act, the same as was done about the insurance agent who wrote the specs for insurance then being awarded the bid, the same as was done when more than $50,000.00 was moved from one line item to a different one in the school budget without authorization, the same as was done
when emergency money was given to the school system for buses then used for the building on the hill, the same as was done when a commissioner assaulted a person on the public square and challenged him to do something about because he was a county commissioner, EXACTLY NOTHING. Rules and laws are only effective when enforced, some in Giles County have clearly become above the rules and laws because those rules and laws are only applied to some.
wab
You just told a lie. The commissioner in question did not assault the individual who was giving his wife a hard time. He's a much better man than I would have been under those circumstances. What would you have done had someone walked up and started badmouthing your wife? Please tell me.
You say our county will never move forward until we have "forward thinking" people directing it. May I take a stab at translating that? The county will never move forward until people like you are in charge. Well, that "ain't gonna happen" so let's move on.
Wouldn't you find it more satisfying to become a positive force for change and betterment rather than beinf one who points fingers, makes accusations, and calls people nasty names? Honestly, wouldn't you?
Actually Terry did assault Mr. Hughes. Mr.Hughes said nothing to his wife until she directed conversation to him and Mr. Hughes said nothing out of line. When Terry did not intimidate Mr. Hughes he tried to use his position as a county commissioner to intimidate Mr. Hughes. "I'm a county commissioner, what you going to do about it?" When that did not work he tried to defame Mr. Hughes by name calling equivalent of a middle school bully. When that did not work commissioner Harwell decides to throw water on Mr. Hughes and try to destroy his camera. Another cowardly act.
And all Mr. Hughes was doing was documenting the breaking of the State Fire Code that can not be suspended for special events or any reason. Mr. Hughes owns property in the area and the local government had enforced the fire code on his business when he was promoting his restaurant by grilling hamburgers in front of his establishment.
Mr. Hughes had every right to document the chili cook off and the breaking of the fire code and the possible endangerment of his property.
Looks like the party is over and everyone is home to post. Does that tell anybody something?
On Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:20:00 PM You wrote....
"Give up Deana Deanna Concerned Citizen Teacher Scared Teacher Frank, just post as one person and people will give you more respect. Unless all of those names are on your birth certificate? This is starting to get rediculous."
I am going to say this once and once only, I post as, A Concerned Citizen, and not as any of those other names. You are so ignorant, that you post as an anonymous poster so no one can no who you are. You are a gutless, spineless coward. You are an intellectual hack, and you couldn't argue your way out of a wet paper bag. I am tired of your pedantic machinations, and your holier than thou attitude. You are no better than anyone else, even though you always claim to be. Bottom line, shut up. Your opinions are absolutely worthless because they are based on gossip and inuendo, not fact. Why don't you just let people discuss the threads. If you hate Barrett so much, just have a thread that is just you 2 and have at it. Let the rest of us continue with the discussion of the thread.
So, Mr. Barrett, since we need to enforce the rules and laws, how would you handle the situation?
What a laugh. The so-called concerned citizen (7:15) is barrett posting anonymously again. Just look at the name-calling and fancy words right out of his dictionary. I'm cracking up over this one.
Words right out of the dictionary, I think a lot of people have been keeping the dictionary handy.
As for Terry Harwell's action, he should set a good example for all commissioners and Giles County.
Did he, no.
Don't run for office if you can't hold your temper.
Ms Garner said, so was in the paper, "I feel the money will be there as of June 30'"
My question is, What if it's not, what then?
The property tax rate will be raise, possibly back to the previous $3.07.
Or a whee tax will be imposed.
Or, they will just spend the Hospital Fund money. So what if there has been a resolution prohibiting this action??? If Ms. Garner ignores the Commission resolution; they will not do anything about her actions. The County Executive will protect her.
Who does Obama threaten when he don’t get his way?
He threatened to not pay: Social Security Retirees, Military Retirees, Social Security disability and Federal Retirees.
Who does Vanzant and some commissioners threaten when they don’t get their way?
No ambulance services or road work.
They want to threaten where it will hurt the worse.
4:20
That happens to be a bald-faced lie. Don't you guys have anything to do besides stirring up trouble?
Are you saying, they haven't said any thing about the ambulance or road work when running out of money?
Are you Janet or a commissioner, don't think anyone else would of got so upset.
6:22
Why don't you go ask Mrs. Vanzant about the matter? Wouldn't that be better than trying to stir up some trouble?
I do know road work has fallen off sharply because of budget cuts.
Where does road work need to be done except in Pulaski and that's not the county's problem.
From what I can tell the road people are doing a good job.
I'm sure gas is making a big dent in the road budget as well as Sheriff and ambulance.
6:59, you need to ride around the county roads if don't think any of them need to be repaired. Apparently you never leave the house. And yes, they do say that the ambulance service and road work will be cut, because that is where your tax dollars go. It is not a threat, it is just part of business.
Why not lay some employees off if it's getting so bad.
Why have so many commissioner meetings. One a month just want do?
I live in the country and don't see any less work than use to be done, in fact I see more being done with this road superintendent.
All you have to do is call Barry Hyatt. He will tell you that they aren't doing as much as they did in the previous years. Your statement is false 9:10.
9:10 At least 10:02 didn't call you a bald faced liar.
He couldn't even accept a complaint about Mr. Hyatt.
I guess that's because he has to be right in everything.
I would think Mr. Hyatt is doing the best he can with what money he is getting to do the job. I'm sure gas and oil prices hurt if he gets more money than last year.
I never said that he isn't doing the best he can. All I said is, I know for a fact that if he is honest, he will tell you that they can't repair as many roads as they did in the past. I know that because I am involved with the amount of money that he can spend to keep the roads in good shape. I also know that Ms. Garner and the commissioners have made a point to give him more money to make up for a few years of neglected roads. It is sad that the citizens of this county aren't willing to contribute the amount of tax dollars needed to keep our roads in good shape. I would rather pay a $50 wheel tax than a $500 repair bill because I hit a hole in the road.
If I recall correctly the Highway Dept.was recently given an extra $1,000,000 over and above his budget for roads. Now he is saying he dont have enough money to pay insurance and has hired a new receptionist!
10:55
Excellent point.
excellent point 7:37
7:37 Instead of trying to stir up a stink, why don't you call him and discuss the matter?
This has nothing to do with Giles county people, but it makes people not trust anyone...
The bail out of Fanny Mae and freddy Mac. They gave their people big bonus. Things like that hurt.
Surely the Christian gentleman want say that was alright.
5:32
Thank you for calling me a Christian gentleman. That's what I am. Thank you so much.
6:13 I don't doubt you are a Christian gentleman, but will you please answer if you think when the government bails out a company the should take the money and give out bonus.
Just yes or no.
7:36
No, it is totally wrong, and the obama administration is giving our money to those people on the backs of our grandkids.
7:50 Thank you for answering my question.
11:43 am What good would that do. The commissioner should step in. Its their job.
Just having more money go in the budget by a tax increase or a wheel tax don't guarantee better services or better roads. The way money has been wasted in the past is a good indicator how it would be wasted in the future.
If I understand it correctly, the interest from the hospital fund can be spent. When it is being used for daily bills will that not cut the interest it earns?
10:40
Thank you. I think you just showed someone up. Good post.
10:40 What interest? Not much interest is to be had today anyway.
My question is if the money is in a CD or some way to draw interest, how could checks be wrote on it.
Maybe someone in the bank business can answer that. I know if my checking accounts run low, I can't write a check on my CD without a little red tape. Is the hospital fun in anything to draw interest now?
8:24 Maybe that's the problem. If it's really invested you can't write checks on it but if it's just laying there in account thre ain't no interest and you can write checks against it. Without out an investment committee nobody knows where it's at but Carol Wade and sh ain't no financial investment person.
MMC Student:
According to an editorial in the November 6th Pulaski Citizen the hospital funds have been placed into a State managed account along with the Highway Department reserve fund (which is now at $0) and the School System reserve (which is now at approximately $5 million). When Ms. Garner had checks cut that exceeded available funds in the General Fund account; the State of Tennessee automatically applied the overdrawn checks against the Giles County reserves (that kept Giles County from defaulting on their checks). Ms. Garner had no choice but to allocate this overdraft against the Hospital reserve. She would not have received permission to apply her overdrafts against the School reserves.
This State managed account does draw interest (less than 1%).
The County Commission can ask for Ms. Garner's resignation (or, they could fire her)for being incompetant and not knowing that Giles County had used up all of their available cash in their General Fund account. However, Ms. Vanzant will block any attempt to admonish, or punish Ms. Garner (Bless her heart). Ms. Vanzant would rather spend our hospital fund than reduce spending.
This means that the Commission will have to find additional financial income for next year. Anybody wish to guess when they might find additional funds?
Thank you for caring
7:40 What you say about Mrs. Vanzant is untrue.
MMC Student:
To December 6th at 7:57
Are you saying that Ms, Vanzant will admonish, punish or fire Ms. Garner for her failure to maintain accurate accountability of County funds? If so, why is not Ms. Garner gone?
Or, are you saying that Ms. Vanzant will reduce spending? She had the opportunity to reduce spending at the begining of this fiscal this year. Ms. Garner provided a list of suggested areas where spending could be cut. Ms. Vanzant made sure that none of these cuts were implemented. By the way, even if she had implemented those cuts, Giles County spending exceeded what would have been saved.
Your turn to provide facts 7:57
Ms Garner had the choice of impounding any departments funds she manages until revenue flows. She chose not to do that. Why not?
The financial management committee needs to meet and asses how competent Ms Garner is and make a recommendation on whether or not to let Ms Garner go from county employ. That recommendation goes before the board of commissioners and they make the final vote. This situation has gone on long enough with no one taking responsibility.
8:05
Here's a fact. You don't know what you are talking about. I know for a "FACT" that all department heads were adked to trim their budgets, and they did. This is fact.
Here's a fact. There are a few people in this county who insist on keeping something stirred up. Are you one of the elite few?
Lastly, it is a fact that neither you nor I know the dynamics of what is going on between Mrs. Vanzant and Mrs. Garner.
It's a sad reality (fact) that there are those few jealous and resentful people who just can't stand it because they have no control over county government.
To 8:53
The department heads did not cut their respective budgets from 2010 spending levels. The 2011 budget is a mirror image of the 2010 budget.
To be honest, the department heads did cut their budget requests for 2011. They went back to their 2010 spending levels.
And since you you provided FACTS; why is the Commission budget and the County Executive's Office budget higher in 2011 than in 2010? Why did the EMA office receive $6,000.00 additional funding for overtime when the employees are salaried and should be exempt.
And, one additional very minor issue ... When is the TDOT Weight Station going to open? Ms. Garner assured everyone that it would open in October; therefore she added over $200,000.00 in spending for 2011 because this over spending would be paid for by the weigh station. Mr. Stoney Jackson did not believe her; and, I now guess we all can not believe her.
Please provide the FACTS and not opinion.
MMC Student
9:18 (wab by any chance?)
Why don't you go talk to Mrs. Vanzant about these matters? I'm sure she would LOVE to sit down and talk to you...as long as there's a deputy standing by just in case you lose your temper.
Do these deputies work free?
To Mr Watson why is it that when someone proves you wrong by stating actual recorded facts that disprove your opinionated "facts" you get even more defensive than usual and try to change the subject and even make claim that it is I who has had the gall to challenge your imagination. The fact is more people are taking an interest and seeing the lazy incompetency in our county government.
I'm glad you see that you have finally come to the realization that Mrs Vanzant hold such contempt for the public that she doesn't speak with the them unless her tax paid body guard is present with her.
Two things of importance if the facts are true why should it matter who reveals them. They should be acted on.
Second I did not write the comments identified as those belonging to "MMC Student". As I have said before I post only under my own name.
wab
I think she only needs a deputy around when you are present at a meeting. Ask yourself why that happens. Be honest with the self that you claim to know so well.
If I were Dan Watson, I would punch Barrett in the mouth for claiming that he is an anonymous poster. I would also take him to court for defamation. Barrett, stop being such a stupid hypocrite and acting like a child. I guess you are still mad because he made you look like such a loser with his article a few months ago.
12:44
Isn't it true that a Christian wouldn't hold grudges?
I am the MMC Student who posted at 9:18
It seems that when anyone presents a solid and factual presentation into this blog; there are a select few who automatically revert to personal attacks rather than discussing the issues at hand.
No I am not Mr. Barrett, and at time really greatfull that I am not.
I am a person who is very concerned in regards as to how our monies are managed and spent. I am a Business Major with an emphasis in Finance. I am using the Giles County Financial Management Office as the basis of my thesis. I am in favor of the Financial Management Act; but, I am not in favor of an inept management staff who never accepts personal responsibility for thier collective actions.
Directly to 9:12 - I have tried to meet and speak with Mrs. Vanzant in regards to the financial matters of Giles County. She seems to be "Too busy" to meet with a student who has no political agenda but would like some questions answered as to how Giles County continues to over spend its revenue flow. Ms. Garner at least has the guts to meet with me. Yet she refers any indepth discussions to the County Executive who is her boss.
MMC Student - Thank you for taking an interest in this subject. I have been trying to keep it on track, but to no avail. I would like to see an accounting of all monies that have been spent. I would like to see the counties budget formatted so that you don't need to have a degree to read it. I hope that you do well in school.
Are 3:07 and 1:37 one and the same person? I wonder.
Same
That's exactly what I thought. Possibly wab posting anonymously AGAIN?
Here we go again say WAB is posting.
Try to change the subject.
Are all anonymous post vanzant or garner?
Funny, once again, the cowards of the county are trying to derail the train of the thread. Oh well, as Forrest Gump's mama said, "Stupid is, as Stupid does."
I hope that the commission does it's due diligence and figures out what to do with this situation, before we lose the Hospital Fund.
10:42
No, I think the 7:25 post just pointed up a bit of sleaziness. And most of the sleazy posts are about Mrs. Vanzant and Mrs. Garner.
6:18
Rather than trying to stir something up, why don't you call and relate your concerns to your commissioners? Better yet, why don't you call or drop by Mrs. Vanzant's office and demand that something be done? Stop crying.
December 6 @ 12:44,
Are you sure that Dan has never posted anonymously on this site? If so how do you know?
7:42 I think they just reacted to your post of 7:25
Why is it alright for you to accuse WAB of posting anonymous but no one else can accuse Vanzant or Garner of posting anonymous?.
You guys accuse Mrs. Vanzant and Mrs. Garner of a lot of things. I'm sure they COULD post anonymously, but I don't think they would.
Your apparent jealousy and resentment is caused by following a troublemaker. That's your fault.
12:48 Did you say why it was alright for you to accuse Barrett of posting anonymous, but not alright for someone to say Vanzant or Graner post anonymous?
No you just put your spin on here as usual.
3:11
No, that is NOT what I said. You are the one trying to twist words. Deal with it.
You need to deal with. See the word WHY.
No one said you said it was alright for Barrett to post.
12:32 asked Why is it alright for you to accuse WAB of posting anonymous but no one else can accuse Vanzant or Garner of posting anonymous?.
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 12:32:00 PM
You did your usual and didn't answer.
Go ahead and change things your way. Just had to point it out.
7:58
Spewing again, I see.
I accuse him of this, because that is exactly what I think he does from time to time. I look at the sentence structure, syntax, the name-calling, etc. to form that opinion. Yes, I think he does that, particularly to pat himself on the back.
Now, as for your accusing Mrs. Vanzant and Mrs. Garner of posting anonymously, go for it. Nobody said you can't accuse them.
WHY are you making a mountain out of a mole hill on this? Don't you have a book to read, a tv program to watch, or something?
Barrett is a sorry excuse for a human being. He will have to answer for all the terrible things he has done and said. It is best that you just let him keep making a fool of himself. He is very good at it. He just has nothing better to do.
MMC Student asks
Got a question for anyone who believes that they have the answer.
When the County Commission passes a Resolution that requires compliance; and, a County employee does not adhere to the provisions of that resolution what reprocussions, if any, are there?
12:16 I think you are right. I also believe that's him posting as the so-called MMC student.
I find it so humorous, you think that one person has the time, or even inclination to fulfill your fantasies. Please.
6:18
You Said,
"Rather than trying to stir something up, why don't you call and relate your concerns to your commissioners? Better yet, why don't you call or drop by Mrs. Vanzant's office and demand that something be done? Stop crying."
I voiced my opinion, and now I am crying? I stated an opinion. That's it. If you call that stirring up trouble, you are a bigger idiot than I gave you credit for.
I may just do that, go see Mrs. Vanzant and Mrs Garner, and ask them these questions. Then I will cram the truth down your throat, you arrogant jacknapes.
8:00
Go for it. Go ask them.
I've noticed how a certain person must stay on the blog all time to post so many times.
How can anyone stay on here so much?
I don't have time to look at this blog but once a day. More important things in my life.
Jackanapes. Don't be a blooter!
Need another drink?
Thursday, December 08, 2011 9:45:00 AM
Which definition of the word are you referring to? I know YOU are a blooter by the O'Reilly definition, but by the Scottish slang, Someone needs to blooter you right in the mouth. Your choice. However, you are still an idiot, you still can't stay on topic about the funding. Please, tell me, since you are so wise and all knowing, How would you find out what is happening?
I wonder how many of these anonymous heroes that make so many hateful claims about Mr Barrett and say so many evil personal things about him would ever have the guts to say the same things to his face.
An anonymous coward is an even bigger coward when they have a real name.
2:42 I like your post. I don't even know Mr. Barrett but just have to wonder why some of them think God would approve of what they say about Mr. Barrett.
3:00
I think God approves of telling the truth, and I am sure He disapproves of those who promote trouble and strife.
Wasn't it the Apostle Paul who asked have I become your enemy by telling you the truth?
Ole Dan lives in an alternative universe where his opinion is fact and truth is subject to whether he believes it regardless of the facts that support it. Flat Earthers will never accept any truth unless it supports their preconceived notions. There is no way any reasonable person can reason with one so absent of reason so I let him call me whatever so the coward won't lock himself in his office and cry.
Ole Dan made you look like a moron a few months ago. I guess you like to hold a grudge. Glad to see you finally admitted to being a loser with the court case.
wab
It absolutely floors me that you call Dan Watson names. He's a class act that you know nothing about. There's no comparison between him and you.
You ought to be ashamed of yourself for condescendingly calling him "Ole Dan" and for referring to people as Flat Earthers. Who do you think you are? I honestly believe someonbe would have already slapped your face off were it not for fear of being sued. You've been very fortunate that people thus far remember that.
Is this the same Dan Watson who uses County computer systems, on County payroll time,to write his column for thr Pulaski Citizen?
Is this the same Dan Watson who is regularly at home, on Minor Hill Highway, prior to 3:00 PM in the afternoon , during the week while still on County payroll time?
If not I apologize.
If so, I agree with the Finance Director that his position should be dropped as was suggested last June when the County Executive was considering budget cuts.
8:08
Why don't you go discuss this with Dan? You have no idea when he writes his column anymore than you know why he happened to be seen at home one afternoon. Go ask him. Wouldn't that be better than running the risk of stirring up trouble? Or is that what you want. If not, then I apologoze.
Sorry, 7:36 but I didn't call Dan Watson any names. Ole Dan doesn't have to refer to Dan Watson any more than Mr. or Watson does.
"Flat Earthers" is a common term for people who continually deny factual information such as "we put a man on the moon". If you consider Dan Watson to be a "Flat Earther" maybe you should speak with him about that.
I don't compare myself to others I and they are individuals each with value.
As for slapping my face, I would expect more discipline from an adult. Violence is the act of a desperate person, are you a desperate person?
wab
You said it; individuals have a right to their own opinions and beliefs. Everybody doesn't think like you (thank God), and it doesn't make them supporters of wrong just because they don't see things as you do.
What a ridiculous argument to suggest that your reference to "Ole Dan" was not a slam on Mr. Dan Watson. That would be like me saying you are a kook and a troublemaker and excusing myself by saying I could have been referring to anyone with your last name. What a laugh. Don't lie.
O don't consider Dan anything less than a gentleman. Perhaps you should emulate some of his qualities if your ego and pride will allow it. But jealousy and resentment makes that hard to see sometimes.
MMC Student
Just for the record what does the Solid Waste Manager do for Giles County? What are his duties and responsibilities that allow him to earn over $30,000.00 a year.?
Thank you,
mmc
Why don't you go ask him? You should be able to see why that is the best approach to take.
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