Investigation In Indiana!
My, my how time changes but things seldom do and there seems to always be a Giles County connection. An investigation is being launched in Indiana into the illegal actions of placing a person on an election ballot who did not have the sufficient number of signatures on their nomination paperwork.
It seems that President Obama's nomination petitions had a large number of forged or unaccepted signatures that left him with less than the minimum number to be on the ballot.
The Democrat spokesperson in Indiana stated that "if we had known we were short then we could have went and obtained more". Does this sound familiar?
The election officials have so far only stated, "I guess we made an innocent mistake".
Is this more like the Chicago style of politics or the Giles County style, or have the lines been so blurred that there is no longer any separation between the two?
posted by Allen Barrett | 6:59 AM
82 Comments:
wab
Why can't you just accept the fact that Mrs. Coleman beat you by a landslide and that the courts saw what you were trying to do?
The election commission did make an honest mistake. Are you trying to suggest that they are lying about that? You are absolutely unbelievable. I don't see how ANYONE can stand to be around you.
In your sick mind, I think you feel you were "done in" by females. I believe you have a hard time dealing with that.
Get over it. Get a life. Get a hobby other than trying to stir up trouble.
This is why nobody has any respect for Allen Barrett. Words can't describe how moronic he acts.
So you see nothing wrong with voter fraud and the officials in Indiana should just keep quiet like the good people of Giles County? Apparently for you there is no problem unless someone says something about it, isn't that enabling the wrong?
I never suggested the election office didn't make a mistake but I also said as plain as possible that they lied about the withdrawal from the school board race.
wab
No, I think you are the liar. Why can't you just accept the fact that the voters of your District DID NOT WANT YOU?
Maybe they should haul your smart rear end into court and make you prove the lie.
What happened in Indiana was not a mistake. That crap is what got Obama elected. What makes you look bad is the way you compare it to Giles County so you get your negative shot in. I don't know how old you are, but you definitely act like a 5 year old. There weren't any backdoor deals to keep you from winning the race, the voters in your district did that.
5:49
It's his OWN fault that he lost not once but twice. I just wish he could accept that and move on with his life. Or better yet, move away with his life.
'How many times did Nixon run before he became president?
6:11
And your point is?
It not likely he will be hauled into court about what he said about the election people they said it in court already and looked like complete liars and incompentent fools. Doubt they would want to go through that again. Barrett has done a lot for the people of this county and this same kind of stuff that happened in Indiana has happened here for a long time. I remember when there was more votes counted from local cemetaries than
from the housing areas.
Don't give up and don't let them run you out, we need you here.
Oh yes, he could be taken to court for accusing them of lying. If anybody is lying, it's him, and shame on you for defening it.
The election commission people NEVER said they were lying.
I realize you were not talking to me, but you can bet I will NEVER allow a handful of troublemakers to run me off. Bullying and intimidation doesn't fly with me. I'll be your huckleberry.
They didn't say they were lying they just couldn't remember nothing and they didn't know how things could have happed the way they did.
Didn't they say they made a mistake? That's not lying.
WAB. Give it up. This is getting old!
Indiana 2008 Presidential Primary Election Fraud Probe Heats Up
By Eric Shawn
Published December 07, 2011 | FoxNews.com
Charity Rorie, a mother of four, sat in her Mishawaka, Ind., kitchen, stunned that her name appeared on a 2008 Democratic presidential primary petition for then-candidate Barack Obama.
"I was very surprised," said the newly elected Democratic chairman of St. Joseph County, State Sen. John Broden. "This is a bipartisan issue that we need to take a look at ... so I hope that this is something, that we as both parties, try to look at what exactly happened, and most importantly, how do we prevent it from happening again."
I like Senator Broden's idea, prevent it from happening again.
Mr. Barrett the point is that you took it to 2 courts and you lost. It is now time to hush, right or wrong. You are beginning to sound like a spoiled child. Mama and Daddy have told you no so drop it.
wab
I hope you can see from the above posts that many people do not have sympathy for your troublemaking. Actually, I would argue that very few are with you on this. As one writer said, just give it up. The only person responsible for your losing is YOU.
wab
Is it not true that both courts told you that you should have questioned the petition BEFORE the election and not after it ended? Please answer that for the readers.
I think it is funny that so many on here condone dishonest behavior that affects voters in this community. No wonder the county is so unattractive to people to live. Hence the only county in the area with consistent decrease in population.
7:36
I think the reason Giles County has become so unattractive is because of all the turmoil being caused here by a handful of troblemakers. Believe me when I tell you that people in surrounding counties are laughing at us. But of course you guys are going to get the word out about how dishonest it is here. Thank you for helping out!
6:40 Dec.post Great post. I agree 100%. This is the only post about this I will make, unlike the ones who can not make enough to satisfy them when they critize Mr. Barrett.Please keep up the good work Mr. Barrett.
8:40
Good work? What good work has he done? It is my opinion that he is the principal cause of all the unrest and hatred here in our county. Are you serious?
8:40 I agree with you. I wonder why all these people (one or two) that post negative about WAB can't see they are much of the problem as WAB.
People laugh at them as well as people laugh at Barrett.
9:05 And you keep it going. What a laugh you are.
You must be enjoying it.
You people who bash Mr Barrett for pointing out the flaws in our local goverment are pathetic.You seem not to care that there is more money being spent than is coming in and our elected officals only want to raise taxes to balance the budget.cuts have to be made to get this situation under control.Our elected officals need to quit wasting our tax money and and be more conservative during these hard times.
10:33
And you people (all one or two of you) bash those who point out barrett's flaws.
I guess from what I read here, truth is determined by how many people support the person stating that truth. I was taught that the truth stood or fell on it's own merit not based on who believed it or who was stating it.
It's like global warming even with no scientific evidence to support it being man-made or even that it exist, and with clear evidence that what studies have been done the results were altered to support wrong conclusions, yet many believe it is the truth so billions of dollars are spent to stop it and we sit in the dark with spiral bulbs that create a far greater environmental hazard than global warming.
The question was asked by a poster at 7:25 this morning "wab Is it not true that both courts told you that you should have questioned the petition BEFORE the election and not after it ended? Please answer that for the readers."
The answer is yes and no. What both courts stated was that had I made the challenged prior to the election her name would have been excluded. The problem was no one but the Election Office and Mrs Coleman knew the names were not legal and neither was about to share that information with me.
I could not prove that the violations had taken place until after two of the people went to vote and applied for provisional ballots because they were not properly registered.
Both courts agreed that violations had taken place and that illegal activity had occurred but neither was willing to do anything about it.
The 7th District was not the only district with voting irregularities. At least one other district had the same problem of unauthorized people to sign nomination petitions. The problem was the candidate did not have the money to spend for an attorney. The 7th District just happened to be the most blatant and the one that was challenged.
wab
They didn't know it either until Mrs. Coleman was elected in a landslide victory over you. Does that tell you anything?
What do you want to see happen? May I guess? The election people all should be fired, Mrs. Coleman should lose her commission seat, and YOU should be heir apparent. Am I pretty close to the "truth" as you call it?
wab
And by the way, those people you accused of lying have, in my opinion, more Christianity in their little fingers than you have in your whole body.
Guess WAB is happy that your opinion isn't as important as God's, except in your mind.
Somebody got their panties in a wad?
Ask a question then get and over the answer.
1:52
I believe it is MORE than just God's opinion that HE condemns troublemaking. Think about that.
2:25 You're not posting to me but I'm thinking about the post and don't understand.
2:38
God hates those who sow strife and discord, a proud look, a lying tongue, etc.
2:38
I meant to say that, according to the Bible, God hates those things...not the people involved. They can always be forgiven if they will lay aside ego and pride and repent.
What a total hypocrite putting a human opinion over the word of God.
133 you are disgusting in what you said and even worse when you shoot off your mouth about what God loves and don't love then try to smooth it out by what you meant to say. You meant exactly what you said and you put yourself in the place of God when you did it.
I agree with 10:07. 1:33 and 2:50 crossed the line way far in putting their opinions above God's Word.
10:07
Well, it's just too bad that you are upset with what the Bible has to say about people like that. Look it up for yourself. I'm not the one who penned God's word.
The reason I came back to clarify in the second post is because I knew there would be someone like you who would take issue with what I was attempting to say. And, while I admit that my 2:50 post was a bit harsh, it still doesn't change the Biblical fact that there are things God hates. Again, go look it up for yourself.
wab
I just had a thought. Why don't you turn this into a Christian blog? Just think of the possibilities for reaching lost souls. Wouldn't that be better than the constant condemnations and hate-mongering that's going on now??
Bet the Christian Gentleman wouldn't allow that to happen 7:33. Then he already has tried to make God a people hater.
I had a thought 7:33 if WAB changed this into a Christian Blog how long before the Christian Gentleman would become the Muslim Gentleman. You know he can't stand to agree with WAB on anything.
8:41
That's a lie. I explained myself. Stop lying.
8:41
While you are trying to be cute and impress your buddies, I AM the one who posted 7:33, and I AM a Christian gentleman. Deal with it.
to 10:07 I believe,
The bible says, thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor....so I guess by pointing out something false in you mind that makes a troublemaker? So Mrs. Coleman didn't do any wrong, does that make it right that she obtained a seat by the false acts/mistakes by others....let see if that logic would apply if the bank mistakingly deposited 100,000 in my bank account----it'd be just as wrong for me to keep it knowing they made a mistake....
4:03
No, but when you lie as you just did it makes you a troublemaker. And NO, Mrs. Coleman didn't do anything wrong. There was NO crime committed. Why can't you just accept that and stop listening to barrett? Or....are you him posting anonymously AGAIN?
In your hypothetical, you should do the right thing and return the money to the bank. The difference would be in your knowing you were doing something wrong. That's just not the case with Mrs. Coleman; both courts saw it, and you need to stop bellyaching. She won in a landslide over barrett, and the petition could have easily been corrected had Mrs. Coleman known it and had the election commission worker caught it im time. The courts also knew that as well. Get over it.
5:25 I agree WAB needs to get over it, I don't know he hasn't, can't read his mind. You need to get over WAB.
Stop reading this blog will it will make you a better person and lots less stress. In my opinion some are posting just to see you get mad.
Are you sure you're not Mrs. Vanzant are posting for her?
Christmas gift suggestions: To your enemy, forgiveness---To an opponent, tolerance---To a friend, your heart---To a customer, service---To all, charity---To every child, a good example---To yourself, respect.... -Oren Arnold Quotes
I will explain the difference between the average person and Allen Barrett. Had I been running for a commission seat and lost by as many votes as he did, to peers that don't even have the mental capacity to lead a county, I would have just kept my mouth shut and not wasted my money and time to try and get the election overturned. If I would have lost by a small margin I think I would have brought it to someones attention.
You see, the difference between most people and Barrett is that logic supersedes with the common man. Barrett has shown time and time again that he doesn't think like the common man. When you fight so hard to prove that the local government is overspending, you don't turn around and cost the county money with a lawsuit that is going against the will of the voters. The voters, afterall, represent the county. That is the true definition of hypocrite.
When your hatred for local government runs like the blood through your veins, you can no longer give an unbiased approach to decisions being made by the elected officials. That is where Barrett and those that stand behind the charter have put themselves. It is no longer about what is best for us, but what is best for themselves. This blog is the perfect example of one man putting down everyone and everything that stands between him and a commissioners seat. It is really sad. I have just learned we have to accept that we live and interact with people of his nature everyday. It is best for all of us to ignore them.
FF
FF, do you think the Christian Gentleman will ignore Barrett?
My opinion is if he had there would have been less bull on this blog.
I will never ignore barrett as long as he misbehaves. In fact, I will admonish him to repent.
Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain...and most fools do.
Dale Carnegie
The protector of Giles County has spoken.
7:24,
I wish he would. I used to look past the enabler, but lately have gotten fed up with the posts. It really seems that he has nothing else to do.
FF
9:35 I can't believe you said that. Are you really beginning to feel like a lot of us do. I ignore WAB, read to see if he's told something else going on. Then no one shows why he's wrong, so go to wondering if what he said was right..
FF
The one you call enabler usually doesn't respond or post here unless one of the disgruntled attacks me. And if you don't my posts, just don't read them. I thought I could count on you to stand with me against these people. Oh well.
I knew she/he couldn't resit posting.
Life must be awful dull.
9;56
Mr. Huckleberry here. I see you are still having gender confusion issues.
Is there anything you want to discuss?
Life is good and getting better all the time. I wish you guys could be as happy as I am. Stop drinking the hate and jealousy kool-aid and see what happens.
Guess what I'm not drinking anything, but I agree with FF you need to stop what in my opinion is jealousy and hate of WAB.
I just got on and was hoping you had taking FF's advice.
I will take it now and stop posting to you.
2:21
You could not be more mistaken about my feelings toward barrett. I see him as the chief cause of trouble and strife here in Giles County and dislike his behavior intensely. That is not to say that I hate the man. And, as for jealousy, I have no earthly desire to be ANYTHING like him. Why is that so hard for you to understand? I've said it many times. And I don't need FF's advice.
Anything else?
I continue to say that one of these days WAB is going to start something on here that will get himself hurt of someone else. What is the difference in bullying here, on the street or in school?
5:59
He knows this and still keeps it going.
bullying is a long way from telling the truth and giving regular people a chance to talk about it and know what's going on in the county.It seems the newspaper does the same thing Barrett does so what's the difference except letting unknown people respond?
5:59 when you posted I thought you should of left a quit thread alone.
Today on another thread I decided two people could get hurt from their post if only they knew who each other was.
But as long as one is anonymous and the other is just using a name so he can be kept from all the other anonymous nothing will happen.
I just can't under why some people like to come off as big bad John. Those two and the enabler have stated something to make anyone think they are so tough. Since no one knows who they are we will never know if they are a runt or giant.
9:41
I am the one allen barrett started that lie on that I enable wrongdoings in this county. I never tried to come off as big bad John and have ask that this name-calling stop.
The true enablers are those who constantly try to keep something stirred up.
Which is the worse name to be called a liar or a enabler? Seems like you have the same number of dogs in the fight as anyone else who calls people names 10:35.
---Part one---
Well, it looks like the Fleet Fox has spoken and that resolves all issues concerning me! While I will make no comment about the differences between myself and the “average person” (whatever the average person is) I will comment about the obvious stated difference in myself and the Fleet Fox. Apparently the Fleet Fox, based on his comments, believes that regardless of the matter, as long as a majority of the people accept something or support it we should just keep our mouth shut about it. There is a problem with that kind of “logic” in that once the majority believed the Earth was flat, that Jews were inferior and should be exterminated; that people of color were too inferior to even be considered a full human and even today the majority of people on Earth don’t believe in Jesus Christ. Had there not been people who were “above average” willing to speak out against these things where would our society be now? If the matter is wasting my money…. it was mine to waste as it was mine earned. Just because the courts ruled against me does not make them right, only more powerful, the issue of abortion on demand is allowed by the courts, are you in agreement with that court decision?
While it may seem, certainly to the Fleet Fox, that logic is not present in my decisions I would submit that logic is supreme in my decisions but that my logic may not be based on the same ideas, characteristics and morals and thus I make different decisions. To me, remaining silent in the face of wrong is as immoral as murder.
As for the cost to the county that was not my decision, the county executive chose to defend the wrong actions of her chosen candidate. Just as it was her decision to pay the price for two attorneys when one was already on the payroll.
Contrary to the very “average” Fleet Fox I don’t have the knowledge to know whether there is hatred running through their veins or not, I do however know that there is no hatred in me for this county or its citizens. I do have a great displeasure is seeing the lazy, incompetence that runs rampant in some county departments. I refer to it as “lazy incompetence” because it would only take a small bit of energy and character to change the situation.
Most of the departments and the employees in those departments are very fine hard working people, many who are just as disgusted with the waste and abuse in government as I am.
I must say that I am impressed that the Fleet Fox managed to include in his personal attack against me, a dig at the Charter. The Charter was an initiative of the people, they voted and elected representatives to write the Charter and the people will vote to either adopt the charter or reject it. So far it seems that the most vocal opponents against the Charter are those content with the people having no say in their taxes, their county and seek to keep the county as it was “200 years ago”.
--- Part Two----
I would remind the Fleet Fox that not one of the 555,276 hits on this blog were the results of me holding a gun to anyone’s head and forcing them to log on. No one has been compelled to post, read or believe anything on this blog by me. I simply provide information and an opportunity for those who wish to respond to do so. Everything, everything I have posted I have put my name on so people could see who was responsible and could hold me accountable for my statements. To date I have had many personal and small minded attacks made against me but no one has presented any evidence that proved my statements were untrue. I could have avoided all the controversy and the personal attacks by simply posting as anonymous or using a nom de plume but that would be inconsistent with my ideas of personal responsibility. While I’m not totally surprised at the personal attacks and criticisms I do wish those who insist of showing their ignorance by claiming to know the motivations of my actions would take a little time and get to know the subject of their outrageous claims. Well over eighty percent of the claims made about me have been utterly false with absolutely no supportive evidence. Not once has anyone making the claim of knowing my motivations had the faintest clue about what they write.
10:35 Way back about Terry Harwell you let on like you would do worse if you had been in his shoes. Other times you have posted like you was big bad John, meaning how tough you are.
11:57
Anytime you call me an enabler of wrongdoing, I will tell you it is a lie. Ok?
12:18
Please allow me to explain something to you. It has nothing to do with whether or not I am big and bad when it comes to defending my wife. I would NEVER allow a smart aleck to walk up and start badgering and harassing her. Oh no. As I have said numerous times before, I would not have been nearly as nice as Terry was.
I don't claim to be tough. I'm just a man who believes in treating women with respect, unlike one troublemaking individual on here who seems to hate them...especially those who have power.
If anyone can read and post on the blog while working, must not have much to do. If they are county employees, that would be away to cut cost, think.
A few years ago I heard the blog was blocked from all school computers.
Today so many people can read and post on the blog from cell phone.
3:20 is being his usual self ignore the question 10:57 asked.
4:45
I'll assume you meant the question 11:57 asked, so I will address it right now. Put simply, allen barrett is a liar for calling me an enabler of wrongdoing. It's as simple as that. If he doesn't want that title, he needs to stop accusing me of something for which I am totally innocent. As I have told him before, I try to live my life right before God and would never be involved in or support something I knew to be wrong. That's the "supportive evidence" he's always harping on, and it should be enough.
By the way, the true enablers (of strife) are those like you who continue to keep something stirred up.
Calling someone a liar is not very nice either even if they are. Calling someone an enabler isn't nice either. Too bad you can't see that.
The Bible is filled with examples of where liars are called liars. When they lied, they were challenged.
Go for it challenger!
Do you realize how many times Barrett has posted as Anoymous? He honestly wants people to think there are those who stand behind his evil ways!...unreal
Do you realize how many times you have posted as anonymous? Do you realize how stupid you are to accuse someone of the things you do without any proof.
8:55
I agree, and it's pathetic.
Too big for dolls and toy trucks so the children have to do something.
Guess mom and pop don't have time for them.
9:06 Do you relize how stupid you sound? get a life and stop all your stupid ways! Stupid!
Children like to have the last word. Just been reading to see who posted last on every thread.
Some people never grow up.
Your turn so you can be the last one to post.
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