Anonymous Letters Being Sent To Some Commissioners
Under new business an issue was voiced that a commissioner had been sent a letter that was very critical of the Commission and it's members. The commissioner that received the letter voiced no objection to the criticism only the fact it had been sent by someone "too big a coward to sign their name to it".
Another criticism voiced by a different commissioner was that some "very bad and wrong information was being put on the blog by people who were too cowardly to sign their names".
The commissioner expressed some concern that people might believe some of the stuff that wasn't true. I have re-read the post from the topic the commissioner spoke of and could not find the specifics of one matter which was an absolute untruth. I agree with this commissioner and have stated the criticism before, "Only a yellow back coward would post personal attacks or gossip as truth then sign their name as anonymous".
I believe there is a need for some to post anonymous and cowardice has little to do with it, but those folks would not make a personal attack against someone or post known lies as truth, these folks usually post something in support of their statements.
On the other hand a coward posts evil, provides no support for such accusations and then hides under the name anonymous. Those people have no credibility and should be labeled for the destructive cowards they reveal themselves to be.
posted by Allen Barrett | 10:57 PM
364 Comments:
Mr. Barrett, I would think the commissioners have more to do than to comment on the anonymous posts on this blog. I tend to think that was a stretch on your part.
By the way, isn't troublemaking an evil perhaps even worse than gossip? Would you agree?
Whether they have more to do than comment on anonymous posts is not a serious question, the facts are as they were printed and easy to verify by simply asking a commissioner if it was stated in their meeting.
Gossip to me is spreading of rumors, 2nd, 3rd and 4th hand information, and accusations made by unknown persons without any supportive evidence to prove it.
Gossip, according to the Bible is evil and according to good conscience it is also very destructive.
Trouble-making is a totally different matter because it is so subjective. What's trouble-making to one person is the patriotic duty of someone else.
Was breaking into the Watergate apartments by Gordon Liddy and others trouble-making or an effort to protect the government?
Is criticizing the outrageous and uncontrolled spending by the Obama administration trouble-making or a responsibility?
Is the Tea Party just a bunch of trouble-makers are patriots desiring to take back the country from the brink of Socialism?
I agree Gossip is evil and destructive but trouble-making requires a huge amount of insight which you seem to lack when there is anything involving me.
Happy Thanksgiving.
No, troublemaking here in Giles County requires a devious mind and a few followers. However, I would agree that it takes a patriot to question the Obama Administration.
And I'm not sure about the Tea Party anymore since I no longer consdier myself anything other than a conservative.
Which party is conservative today?
This isn't meant as criticism, just a question.
I don't like the Republican or Democrat party anymore or the ones running it, I should say.
I think statements like that and past actions of our commissioners are the very reasons some citizens feel a need to voice their opinion anonymously. I guess the comment could have been worse considering what some other commissioners have called citizens.
Is a citizen's fear of openly discussing its concerns with the commissioners of the county any thing to be proud of?
Which commissioner made the statement?
Gossip starts trouble making.
Nov 23, 6:04 am
Are you saying no commissioner said this?
Another criticism voiced by a different commissioner was that some "very bad and wrong information was being put on the blog by people who were too cowardly to sign their names".
I would think that would be in the minutes if said. Do they not tape these meetings?
7:41
I believe some very bad and wrong information is being put on this blog by none other than allen barrett and his one or two loyalists.
GTC Says:
The Commissioner who complained about receiving an anonymous letter was Tommy Pope. The Commissioner complaining about false statements posted by anonymous persons on this blog was Tommy Pollard.
Respectfully,
GTC
6:04 & 5:58
So there you have it. An apology should be forthcoming from you to Mr. Barrett but we know that will never happen. Maybe others will now accept this poster for what they are and start believing the facts Mr. Barrett introduces as a topic of concern and ignore the sabotager.
Thanks GTC.
gtc
When will barrett be apologizing to Giles County? We both know that will never happen.
What is a sabotager?
GTC Says:
I personally don't give a flip if anyone apologizes to anyone else. If they do; great. If they don't that will not change a thing for people and their individual opinions will not change.
I would like to hear Ms. Garner and Mrs. Vanzant apologize to all of the County for their mishandling our finances. If they did, then we might realize a better future for this County.
GTC
gtc
Why should they apologize for taking care of our county's financial business? Just because YOU and two or three (at the most) others don't agree doesn't make them wrong. I know them personally (I know you will respond to this), and they are not the corrupt people you and the troublemaker-in-chief seem to want to make others believe them to be. I believe barrett should apologize to Giles County and leave. What greater blessing?
GTC Says to 11/26 at 8:43:
I never said that either of them were or are corrupt; they just are not adept at financial planning and financial management.
Why should they apologize? How about:
1) Over spending revenues received since 2004?
2) Depleting a $6.5 million financial reserve for the General Fund that was in place in 2004?
3) Illeagly dipping into the hospital reserve fund which is against a Commission resolution that was passed when Giles County sold Hillside Hospital?
I would say that a minority of the Commission use to agree with me; and now (because of Ms. Garner's actions)possibly a majority of the Commission will now agree with me.
Have a good weekend,
GTC
gtc
Why don't you call the state and file a complaint?
Oh, it just occurred to me; you guys want to be in charge, but you can't get elected.
Again, call the state and file your grievances.
GTC Says:
Already have Tuesday Morning, in writing with both the Attorny General and State Auditor's Offices.
But, thanks for the suggestion.
GTC
9:59
Why don't you be a good citizen and file the complaint? Oh yeah, you would rather enable wrong doing.
10:32
The only enabler I see is you. And what you guys are trying to do is what's wrong. You just can't stand it that there are those like me who point that out. Deal with it.
Send everything that you want to anywhere in the state. I assure you that anything Mrs. Garner has done is legal. I wonder who would be so low as to send a negative letter to Tommy Pope? Probably someone that posts on this blog. It would also be nice to know what post Tommy Pollard is talking about? He doesn't act like he knows how to tie his own shoes.
12:28 You aren't the only person posting as anonymous. Why do you think Tommy Pollard was talking about you?
I'm sure he wasn't talking about the post against Barrett. That's all you ever do.
There are other people saying things on this blog.
You've never said anything about how the government of Giles County was run so how could it be your post he was talking about?
Saying “T. P. doesn't act like he knows how ties his shoes” is a mighty sorry thing for a pretend to be Christian to say.
Pollard must of agreed with something WAB said for you to get your panties in such a wad.
I know Pollard is a Commissioner but not which district or what he looks like, but will find out.
I didn't say it all in my post like you so will post again. I know Tommy Pope and wonder why anyone would send him a letter like that. They should be a shame.
I don't know Tommy Campbell but would never send him a letter like that.
3:04 Are you getting your Tommy's mixed up - Pope, Pollard and now Campbell - or did you send a letter to Campbell?
3:33 No sweet not mixed up. I've seen remarks about Tommy Campbell on the blog before so said I wouldn't send him an anonymous letter. I'll add I wouldn't say Tommy Pope, Tommy Campbell, Tommy Pollard, Stoney Jackson or any of the other commissioners act like they don't know how to tie their shoes. They must be pretty knowledgeable they got elected. They had the nerve to run for an office and you want or so you've said you wouldn't.
Is 4:41 o.k. They write like they are having a stroke.
Does any one have a copy of the letter? I would like to read it.
So 12:28 you think Tommy Pollard
doesn't act like he knows how to tie his own shoes. I thought you was a Christian Gentleman. That didn't sound like a Christian.
1:54
I am the one whose Christianity you guys scoff at. I am NOT the one who said something against Tommy. I have known him a long time and find him to be a very good person.
All I am saying is that we don't have the most educated group of commissioners out there. Some of them have good common sense and that works fine for the job. However, there are a few that definitely are smarter than a 5th grader. They have no business making decisions for the county.
10:35 Could that be the ones that don't go for so much spending you are talking about?
Could that be the ones that's not Mrs. Vanxant's "Yes mam"?
Meant to say aren't smarter than a 5th grader. And no, it is not who you are trying to imply. There are some real stinkers on the commission that hold up progress in Giles County. The same as you all and Allen Barrett try to do. You have to spend money to run a county. I think you all just want to see it fall to pieces.
12:41
Yes you have to spend money to run a county but that it why you only put realistic projections of revenue in your budget. Just like any company you have rules to follow with spending and one is if you do not have the money coming in you tighten up your belt, make additional spending cuts and get through the lean time. You don't steal from Danny to pay Sally. Can we say hospital fund?
It seems to me you are against some of the ones that are against giving the financial management office a blank check and unsupervised authority to pull money from any where they see fit to cover those checks.
I'm not for giving them a blank check, but when the commissioners can't do their job someone has to make the tough decisions. You can't shortcut the citizens. Some of the commissioners tried to get the wheel tax passed so we wouldn't have this problem. Blame it on the people that are against everything. They are the ones holding us back and putting us in this situation.
GTC Saya to Nov 27 at 5:23
What about the General Fund reserve that was in palce in 2004? It was in excess of $6.5 million. Do you really condone the County overspending incoming revenues for the past six years without any input form the citizens?
If you do ... you just gave the County Executive a blank check. Look at the department budgets over the past six years and ask yourself; does the County Executive's office budget deserve a raise last year? Does the County Commission budget deserve a raise? Does the Office of Emergency Management deserve a budget in excess of $125,000.00 for two people? What happened to the spending cuts the County Executive recommended last June? And, were not those spending cuts put into effect?
The County is shortcutting the citizens in that services have not increased nor have they improved; yet spending has growen evey year. We are now looking at significant tax increases on the "average citizen".
Thank you for your time,
GTC
5:23
You are exactly right.
They listened to the people when they put back in the dead animal disposal. That is something I shouldn't have to responsible to pay. The people want to have safe roads but aren't willing to pay a wheel tax so the roads can be taken care of properly. Different charitable organizations want us to keep giving them tax money, and the will of the people makes it so. The people want to be picked up by an ambulance in the case of an emergency so we do it. The reason we are having to dip into reserve funds is because the people are wanting things and aren't willing to come out of their pocket to pay for them. Any city that is prosperous has a heavier tax burden. In the end, industry wants to be involved in a community that is willing to give back. If we want jobs, we have to make the county appealing. We have several commissioners that would rather listen to people that have no clue of how to grow a local economy than vote for progress. Don't blame that on Mrs. Garner or Mrs. Vanzant. The commissioners that are attacked on this blog aren't the enemy. I have been to meetings and listened to the same commissioners vote against progress time after time.
FF
I also recall Mrs. Garner making a long list of prospective cuts and recommending them to the commission. We shouldn't be upset with her. We should be upset with the commissioners that left her holding the bag when the manure hit the fan because they didn't have the guts to cut. Find out who those commissioners are and post them, then we can discuss the real issues the citizens are facing. Nothing being posted on this blog is giving a single person any insight as to which commissioners should not be voted into office. Degrading the commissioners from district 7 is a common theme that has evil written all over it.
FF
Didn't Mrs. Vanzant ask for cuts and they did it, Then wham they meet and out the cuts back in.
Payroll needs to be cut. Not hire more people.
I don't know which Commissioner wants cuts and which wants to spend more.
Sour grapes is the people with a good job and plenty of money just forgetting about the older and ones out of a job.
Why do you have to scream no ambulance or road work every time cuts need to be made? There is other places to cut. Just yell what will hurt the people the most to get what you want.
What are the other places that can be cut? When Loretta was digging the bottom of the barrel to make cuts it just made people mad. It has nothing to do with the elderly or people out of a job. It comes down to having to run a county despite the amount of tax revenue that is coming in. It is a bad situation and doesn't require Allen Barrett to jump to conclusions and start pointing fingers.
FF
If you remember in the budget meetings item c failed by vote of the commissioners to make it back in the budget. It was put in the budget to be voted on even though it did not receive the required number of votes. The budget passed thus funding Commissioner Harwell's job in the financial management office.
What other spending is going on that is not the commissioner's wishes? If funds are being dipped into by the person who writes the checks ,when rules have been put into place by our governing body, to protect those funds for the good of the tax payers; why not scrutinize the competency of the position for the tax payer's welfare?
And I forgot to add that she sure did not take too much time on the bottom of that barrel you speak of. If you recall in the budget meeting the commissioners asked her to provide the figures for the two court house employees only versus the figures for the three employees( 2 court house employees and employee in her office.) She repeated many times that she did not run the figures for only the two employees. She had no intention of not including the employee's salary that would be placed in her office even though some of the commissioners expressed they did not see the need for the extra employee in the financial management office that was eventually given to a man who voted on adding the very job back in the budget. I wonder how he voted?
You can't get blood out of a turnip, so what are they going to do when all money is gone? They can put all the taxes they want, but if people don't have it to pay, what then.
I bet FF and a lot of other that are for more taxes are paid by the tax dollars.
Just because you have a personal issue with someone, does not mean that you need to make it a public matter. Keep your personal business to yourself. Our Finance Director is trying to work with what she has. You have to remember that she is a very educated person that knows what it takes to run companies or counties. When you are trying to do what is best for this county and there are people that put up roadblocks, this is what starts to happen. An elected official does not a genius make. Solve your personal issues and you would be much better off.
FF
Fleet Fox
Yes, Ms Garner has a CPA degree which she received after four attempts to pass. However, Ms Garner has admitted over the past years several 'mistakes' that cost the county mega bucks to correct. Obviously this person should be replaced by someone more competent and able to do the job. We have a Financial Management Committee that is in place to oversee the finance office. Its time they stepped up to the plate and did their job as directed by law.
Fleet
You are doing a good job in taking on this barrett follower. These people are never happy and are truly against virtually everything (CAVE). Thank you for standing up to this individual. Heck, it could be barrett himself posting anonymously again.
I believe the real problem with these unhappy people is rooted in jealousy and resentment. They can't get themselves or their candidates elected, so they cry foul at every turn and do their level best to belittle and harm those who have what they want....power.
FF
You are absolutely right. Progressive cities must have the funds to make that happen. It's just sad that CAVE has listenened to a troublemaker to the point that it's all seemingly blamed on Mrs. Vanzant, Mrs. Garner, or select commissioners, particularly those in District 7. I too see the evil in that.
I believe the real problem commissioners are those two or three who go right along with the troublemaking. Just look for the ones who are in fact aligned with CAVE. These are the same ones who, along with CAVE, are pushing this so-called charter that we must defeat.
I wonder if FF, 6:16 and 6:28 are the same person. I bet they are.
And who has written anything personal about Mrs. Garner? Stating what is on public record and opinion about decisions and actions taken in a government job is not personal it is just stating fact.
7:21 I think you are right about 6:16 and 6:28 being the same person the enable. He can call anyone member of cave I can call him enabler.
I would be interested in what conclusions I have jumped to Fleet Fox? While not everyone can work for the county and write a column in support of county government, including anonymous letters praising the writer, every citizen should have the right to question the actions of an official. When an official states in the Commission Meeting that they have been using money in direct violation of county policy, from the Hospital Fund to pay everyday expenses, should that official not be criticized, even reprimanded?
This is not the first time the Director has violated written policy and used money from one fund for another. Her refusal to state who authorized her using the hospital funds should be grounds for dismissal.
One of the problems with the Financial Management Office is that so many in positions of authority have opposed it at every step, and done everything they could to sabotage it. Presently the Financial Management Committee is made up of, with the exception of commissioners Pope and Pollard, the most strongly opposed people to the Financial Management Act in county government. When the act was adopted there was an allowance for the County Executive to appoint four members at large, she refused to appoint anyone from a financial institution or business or any private citizens to the board choosing instead only commissioners who had stated their desire for its failure. To date they haven't even established a procedure of evaluation for the employees. One person continues to be paid the salary of a CPA yet they are not CPA's.
The Financial Management Act is the most effective means available in the state for proper oversight and management of county budgets, the problem is haphazard implementation, lax supervision and
weak leadership. It's like buying a TV capable of picking up a thousand channels, you then buy a cable system that gives you a hundred channels, it's not the TV that prevents you getting all thousand channels.
To the person who asked about whether Commissioner Harwell voted to restore the three cut positions, including the one he now fills, to the budget, Yes he did.
959
But you are promoting a bald-faced lie whereas I am telling the truth about CAVE. A subtle difference, wouldn't you say?
I see wab is back to business as usual and going after one of the 7th District commissioners.
11:07 Which district 7 commissioner is WAB going after, I didnt see any mentioned.
He has gone after everyone of them at some point since the election. Even filed a lawsuit that was shot down in two different courts. I think you probably knew that already.
2:27 So are you suggesting Coleman?
12:50 Right now he seems to be after Terry Harwell.
I believe that Fleet Fox is none other than Woodard's grandson still trying to prove everyone else is wrong and his opinions are right on the money. He's just posting under FF to try to throw everyone off. Still trying to push a wheel tax on everyone in Giles Co. I see.
So you see nothing wrong with Terry Harwell as a commissioner voting to retain a position with the county that he now fills? You have no problem with him making decisions as a commissioner that directly impact his position in the financial management office?
You have no problem with officials ignoring the resolutions passed by the commission?
I have nothing personal against any commissioner or official, I just believe that those who violate the public trust should be held accountable.
3:25 It does sound as if FF is possibly DAW but I feel more strongly that FF is none other than county employee Dan Watson.
wab
Of course I can see a possible conflict of interest, but neither you mor I know all of the circumstances surrounding this matter. But of course you have to throw stones as usual.
Why can't you just accept that fact that county decisions are made without your input?
Speaking of people being held accountable, I think your whining has insured that nobody leaves any base uncovered, because they know you will be right there screaming foul. But why aren't you held accountable for calling names and hurting people? And please don't say you don't.
4:58 If you think for one minute WAB has caused people to cover every base, think again. If they did, how could WAB constantly point out the gaps?
Which post was Tommy Pollard talking about? Or what topic?
6:02
Because he loves to play gotcha with those he seems to resernt. It's really pathetic, and even moreso that you defend him.
Tommy Pollard is upset with the previous topic "Commissioners trying to kill the sunshine law" and is also upset with the article in the paper that stated the Commissioners could also ask to have their pay the same as the State Legislators. I heard he got up in the meeting and stated "I don't believe anyone here is wanting more money". Ha!
4:58 The truth should not hurt. If truth hurts, the hurts are self-inflicted.
TCA code 5-21-104 says that the four members of the Financial Management Committee is elected by the legistavite body at it's regular September meeting each year, or at any subsequent meeting.....
6:49 There are seven members on the Financial Management Committee, County Executive, Siperintendent of Schools, Superintendent of Highway Department. Four elected positions which may or may not be members of the community. But the commissioners voted to have the chairman of the budget committee to automatically be a member of the Financeal Management committee, leaving three to be elected.
Thanks wab.
I don't think that any of the commissioners are doing it for the money. I also think that only a few of them are doing it for a sense of power. I think most of them are devoting thier time to try and help the people that live around them. It isn't always easy to make decisions for everyone, but that is what we should let them do and not be so negative about it. If someone in your district doesn't make you happy, don't vote for them. Some of you have so much hatred and jealousy inside of you. It only makes you look bad when you make childish comments.
We need to be thinking about issues that are on a larger scale than Giles County. We are heading into the most important presidential election in modern history. Every person that posts on this blog needs to realize that the United States, the most important country in the world, is being taken over by a group of socialists that have the intention of breaking down every small town and society in America.
Do you not see that the restraints that have been put on this county have come upon us by the result of an inept federal government that had rather see us fight each other because of class warfare than see us succeed?
We have been put in this financial position because jobs have gone to other countries because of our corporate tax rates and the inability of small businesses to compete with internet sales and an increase in tax burdens. This is not the fault of anyone that governs our county.
Your current federal government wants you to become dependant on their aid so that you will look within your community to place blame.
Giles County has always been strong in the manufacturing sector. We can't survive on the service industry. I want people to have jobs. Most of us are comfortable working 40 hours per week at a factory to provide for our families.
If you want this county to survive, you better look past racial, political and personal divides and vote for a President that is going to restore America. Newt Gingrich was the leader of the House of Representatives during a time that America was prosperous. He connected with both ends of the political spectrum and balanced a budget. He is the person that I would want to lead this county and this country. He isn't perfect, just as no other man or woman. He knows that our economy is strong when fine folks like us are making money and supporting the economy. Make a difference for our childrens future and show them what the American Dream is all about. We can fight with each other until the cows come home. However, until we unite to destroy the establishment that is really holding us back, none of us will win.
FF
8:26 I agree with you.
But it's hard to say nothing when it's a long time till the next election.
Look what Obama has done and will do before he's out of office.
It's alright to offer suggestions in a nice way.
What a site. Barrett defends the Watergate break-in and FF touts the lobbyist Gingrich.
Keep me entertained boys.
And 5:16 has nothing to offer but stupid remarks. Keep on trucking there good buddy.
8:26
You are right, and that hatred for commissioners seems particularly evident in District 7. It's just a shame and a disgrace.
Perhaps its disgust rather than hate.
12:05
No, I think it is jealousy and envy which cause hate.
Since Commissioner Pollard nor his wife have access to the internet, tonight he asked me to post a statement on this topic.
"I will be glad to speak with or meet with anyone at their convenience in reference to comments about me on this blog or any other topic they might wish to discuss about my actions on the County Commission"
Another comment he asked me to post is, "I was told someone wrote on the blog that I didn't have enough sense to tie my own shoes, I wear boots with no laces, if I have laces Tammy ties them for me".
While he was kidding about Tammy tying his laces he was very serious about speaking with anyone and everyone about his role on the Commission. His phone number is 732-4054, give him a call you may be surprised at how easy he is to talk with.
wab
I think you are just trying to stir up needless trouble. What on earth is wrong with you?
I'm disappointed that Tommy Pollard would even be talking to you.
9:44 Look, I was asked to do a favor for a friend and I did.
Tommy and I don't always agree on things but we always are able to talk with each other and respect each others positions and the person. Now, if you can't accept that then too bad.
9:44, AKA Rabid, AKA the Enabler: where do you get off with your attitude? You've got some nerve. You call is gossip and troublemaking to post facts on this blog, and in the next statement encourage citizens to "ask around" which is the same thing as gossip. Then you tell people to go to the source and then when your obsession does just that, you are "disappointed" that this particular commissioner did his duty, his job, his obligation and spoke with a citizen. One can only surmise that you are "disappointed" in Mr. Pollard because he doesn't join with your mindset that citizens have no rights once someone is elected, to approach them. You accuse Mr. Barrett of gossip and name calling and he took that little barb you constantly hurl without any proof and left you with egg on your face. He went straight to the commissioner, and your "disappointed." I ask again, who do you think you are? You don't think citizens have freedom of speech and it's your job to censor them and now you reveal a new side of your character, those elected to serve have no rights either unless you give them the "green light." Your behavior is far more of an abomination than any other poster on this blog, EVER! DISAPPOINTED in a commissioner for talking to a citizen. Your attitude is beneath contempt.
DeanNa
10:09 A good post and so true. That is just what the Christian Gentleman does.
She/he was probably the one said Pollard couldn't tie his own shoe.
I knew Pollard didn't have internet so sent him word about being on the blog and I'm not WAB.
I have known Mr. Pollard for about 21 years and I can assure you that he would be more than happy to talk to anyone that has any questions. Some of you people need to realize that just because some of the county officials aren't doing their jobs doesn't mean that none of them are. You people really need to grow up and act like adults instead of a bunch of teenagers on facebook. And furthermore, if everything our officials do is so hoorible why do ya'll keep voting for them? They don't elect themselves. Why don't some of you run for commissioner if you have such a problem with the current ones?
From what I read in the paper, looks like Stoney, Pollard an Reedy are doing their job, too bad some don't want to agree.
I thought that was why we had so many commissioners, to see things are done right.
Britany, looks like I've know Tommy Pollard longer than you and everything you said about him is correct.
deana
There's a difference between gossip and taking an informal survey around town. I only suggested that you "ask around town" as to who the biggest troublemaker in Giles County is. Just be willing to accept the "facts" when they become apparent.
By the way, isn't "asking around town" what a newcomer does when he asks where the churches, best restaurants, etc. are? Would it be gossip if the newcomer asked, for example, who the main players and supporters are in STARR Theater?
You accuse me of not wanting free speech and that it is my job to censor them? YOU are a liar. Oh wqlel, I did my time in combat to give people like you the right to badmouth anyone who disagrees with you. Go for it. I will be your huckleberry (nemesis).
Yes, I am disappointed that Tommy would be associated with someone like allen barrett.
1:22
Do you guys routinely laugh at a man's religion or just make fun of the ones who don't see things your way?
As for Tommy Pollard, he is a good guy, and I would never say such evil things about him or Tammy.
Well...exscuse the typo...was in a hurry. Just thought I would be first to point that out.
8:01
Sounds like you are promoting gossip.
If your question was asked I really doubt you would like the answer because I'm finding that a lot of peoples eyes are opening in this county and many do not see Barrett as the trouble maker you try to label him.
But then again it does depend on your point of view. King George, III thought the colonists were trouble makers.
8:01 AM
Find it strange your previous early postings around 6 a.m. have ceased and now you start as soon as you hit office at 8:00 a.m. You refer to the STAAR organization, do you perhaps have a current or past affiliation with that group? You would have been better to have mentioned the Chamber of Commerce as being somewhere a newcomer would logically ask of Giles county.
8:22 (wab?)
Sounds like you are very confused and promoting strife.
According to your "findings", aren't you promoting gossip...according to your logic
To 8:01
When one asks where the theater is they are seeking directions. When one asks who are the main actors in the current play one is seeking information. When one asks about the family trouble the main actor is having that's gossip. When one, like you, then goes and tells others about that trouble it's being a gossip.
I did not scoff at your religion I scoffed at you for trying to wear it like a badge of righteousness when you have no authorization.
Once again you bring up "your time"
in combat, well others have spent time in combat also but they don't usually brag about it because it is something very private and painful to most. You have yet to say what unit you were with during that period of combat as I wonder how you can so boldly brag about the combat but be ashamed of the unit and men you served with.
In my opinion you should have just went to work got your dimwit buddy and locked your door, as usual, until mail call.
Oh, please tell what mean things 1:22 wrote about Tommy Pollard. Only you have written about your disappointment in him, most everyone else has only posted praise.
8:01
Please tell me what evil things I have said about Tommy or Tammy. I know them both personally and they are both great people. Please do not twist my words. And as far as religion I never even mentioned anything about religion.
The article in the paper made it sound as if Tommy Pollard didn't like that people were opposed to changing the sunshine law.
wab
Ok, let me shed some light on the things you said in your above post.
You state that someone is merely seeking information when they ask about the main players and supporters of the theater. Well, the same would be true if I settled in Pulaski and became aware of all the hate-mongering going on here. Would it not be a natural thing to do to inquire around as to who the troublemakers are? Extrapolate. Let's say I found out through inquiry that your name came up as being one of the troublemakers. It would not be gossip to ask others if they can further enlighhten me as to what might be going on?
Next, you did in fact scoff at my religious convictions, and that's pathetic. I think perhaps you should try some of them for yourself. Oh, and I have plenty of authorization to wear the title of Christian. How dare you to arrogantly judge me. If I were you, I wouldn't EVEN suggest hypocrisy on my part.
What unit was I with in combat? That is none of your business. What difference does it make? I don't wear that as a badge of bravery or anything else for that matter. However, you may say that I am a patriot. I'm not ashamed of my unit or the men I served with. It's simply none of your business. Ohm and aren't you trying to read the thoughts and intents of my heart? I thought you didn't like to see people do that?
Lastly, your "opinion" means nothing to me. And I am disappointed that Tommy would associate himself with you. But that's your fault and not mine. He is a great person.
Hopefully, I've neen able to clear up additional misunderstandings for you.
2:57 I think you just muddy the water when you try to clear anything up.
I don't blame you for not telling what unit you were in because we could find out who you really are then.
Most people when moving to a county or town wouldn't think of asking who the trouble makers are. Who would ask who's hard to get along with? lol
I would ask "Are there any perverts living near, where is the best place to shop, where is the doctor and who is the best?" I wouldn't want them to think I'm a gossip and if I saw my neighbor peeping out the window every time I went out, I would thunk nosey neighbor bet they are gossips.
Who are the trouble makers. Laughable
I'm sure every town has them, but none of my business.
You'll never be as nice a man as Tommy Pollard.
you wouldn't want someone to think you are a gossip! hilarious!
2:57
The way you try to justify things is idiotic. Nobody attacked the Christian religion. They attacked you for always touting that you are a Christian, but no one would know from your actions. In my opinion you are an embarrassment to those that are true Christians. You direct more hate and attack those whose opinions differ from yours and then persecute those who you claim do the same. In your little world only you have rights and you judge every one based on how you think it ought to be as opposed to how the laws and Constitution read and should be followed, especially when a person takes public funds as their income. When those in our government abuse their power and take advantage of the taxpayers you fight to the death to defend their wrong doings. After reading your posts I always think to my self how sad this person is and I wonder if you really are suffering from a mental illness.
5:37, you need to stop with the crap. How many ways are you going to post. It is easy to tell when you post as anonymous and other names. You are the one that seems to have a mental illness. You also have an obsession with posting everytime the one you call enabler does. Maybe you are really in love with him and just show it in a crazy way?
7:03 Didn't you get to go to the party?
5:37 has as much right to post as you or the enabler or me.
Crap is all the enabler post, so 5:37 keep giving it back.
Did anyone see anything but crap in 7:03's post or this one either? No one word about the subject of the thread.
5:13
Who are the "we" you are talking about? That's why I'm not about to tell you guys who I served with. Why? It's because I don't trust you.
Next. You knew very well what I said about a newcomer in town, but you chose to twist it. Let's say YOU were about to move to Giles County and found out that there was all this hate-mongering, jealousy, and resentment here. Would you or would you not inquire into this? Of course you would.
Next.
I'm not belittling Tommy Pollard in the least. He is a wonderful person, but then again, so am I. Deal with it.
5:37
NOBODY said ANYBODY atttacked the Christian religion. Those are your words. But when allen barrett and his loyal one or two scoff at me for being a Christian, I have a difficult time ignoring it. Do you suggest that a Christian not proclaim it? Why is it "touting" to do so? You call me an embarrassment to my fellow Christians? Well what about the one who struts around calling himself a man of God and mistreats and hurts people? What about his behavior? In MY OPINION, there's the real embarrassment to Christians.
No, I am quite a happy man. Mental illness? Perhaps; who knows? But I do know that I am not a mean and spiteful person who insists that everyone agree with me. You accused me of that, and guess what? That's a lie.
You guys (perhaps the same one) just never stop with the hating. I stand opposed .
9:33
I'm saying you cast a lot of stones to be such a self proclaimed Christian and I do not think that you represent true Christians at all.
Well 10:03, you just misrepresented Christianity as well. See, you have no place to judge someone else. Myself, not really being a believer in heaven and hell can't be called a hypocrite for telling you this. All of you that claim to be so close to God, that includes Barrett and the Enabler, need to take a step back and decide if you want to be a Christian or not. None of your actions are Christ-like. Barrett is very non-Christian if you go by the book. His arrogance alone is one of the 7 deadly sins. ( Pride) Just in case you wondered which. When you try to get into real debate over ISSUES it sometimes gets a little nasty. However, when you are trying to discuss baited topics, it is ALWAYS going to get nasty. That is what Barrett does. He posts topics that can't really be logically discussed by the people that post on this blog. He wants you to have a negative attitude toward county commissioners. He also has said some bad stuff about Tommy Pollard in the past and had a heated discussion and a very poor way of claiming to apologize to Pollards wife. But now they are friends. Right! Don't get caught up in the resentment that one person can have for the people around him.
11:05 You sure got one thing right. Barrett and the enabler don't act like Christians. Being a Christian is more than saying you are one.
Never be a shame of being a Christian.
If the enabler would just laugh at Barrett like he says others do, a lot of this would stop.
All this blog is about is the enabler and Barrett. It seems no one knows how to discuss anything else.
I think that's the way the enabler wants its.
11:05
I did grow up in a Christian home and I am familiar with the teachings of Christianity as well as other faiths, but where in any of my statements did I state I was a Christian or pretended to represent the Christian faith? You jump to conclusions. I was stating my opinion based on the actions of practicing Christians I have seen who set an example through their actions as a testament of their faith as opposed to hypocritical statements coming from one who would hide behind a pretend shield of faith in a meager attempt to add weight to their statements.
11:42
Don't you know barrett is sitting back laughing at you guys for scoffing at a man's religion and for promoting the lie he told that I enable wrongdoings? Of course. I believe he delights in such mischief. That's sick. And you don't see that he's the root of this troublemaking? Are you blind?
As for the true enabler of wrong, I think it's you. Go look in the mirror.
In a sense, I suppose you are right that this blog is often between me and barrett and his loyalists. It's true that I am the main one who takes issue with the way he treats people, and I have from the beginning pleaded with him to stop that.
Recently, his approach seems to have changed a bit. I believe he seekds to get something stirred up and then relies onj people like you to carry the torch. Now who exactly are the true enablers?
I honestly believe the only reason he told that lie about me to begin with is because I challenge him when he was mistreats others.
By the way, they are laughing at him.
7:26
Your such a hero.
7:26 The only way a person could possibly understand the criticism of you as being a criticism of Christianity, is to believe that you are Christianity. Sorry but because you are a member of a group does not make you that group.
It was no lie that you are an enabler of wrongdoing and the proof is in your continually support of illegal, and abusive behaviors by some county officials. Examples are recently dipping into the hospital funds without proper permission; supporting the behavior of a commissioner who assaulted a private citizen used hate speech against him then arrogantly challenged him to do something about it since he was a county commissioner; you supported the county executive when she vetoed the commission's vote about the beer distance; you defended the illegal behavior and dereliction of duty by the election office, and there are a long number of other offenses you defended. Your only response so far in defense of your actions has been to say over and over "it's a lie", OK, show something to prove it's a lie just as I have shown things that show it's the truth.
I have never criticized you because you disagreed with me or challenged a statement I've made, my criticism has centered on the fact that you do not offer any evidence to support your criticism only opinion.
To the poster who spoke of pride, are you aware that self pride is a very healthy matter. Without any pride you would have no reason to come your hair or change your clothes. Without self pride you would nave no problem depending on others to do for you what you are fully capable of doing for yourself. Without any pride you would never be able to present yourself as a worthy companion for your spouse.
Yes, I have a certain amount of pride in my accomplishments and confidence in myself but those who know me will tell you there is no arrogance.
I apologize to those offended by my post being off topic but somethings have to be responded to.
wab
And just because you profess to be a preacher certainly doesn't make you one. I am a Christian, and I do not resort to the nasty things some people do.
Yes you told a lie when you accused me of enabling wrongdoings. I firmly believe you started that lie because I am one who will stand up to you and challenge your misbehavior.
Illegal behavior and derelection (proper spelling0 of duty by the election commission. That's a slanderous lie. Be careful.
Assault on a provate citizen. That was provoked, and you know it.
Dipping into the hospital funds. If there was something illegal then why don't YOU call the state?
Your accomplishments? Laughing. What have you accomplished other than to sow widespread discord and strife?
You speak of pride, and you surely have more than enough of that.
9:35 Could WAB have miss typed like you did with the 0? laughable
Perhaps; who knows? I thought he never did anything wrong?
If WAB or the Christian gentleman never do anything wrong, what's all the fuss about?
I thought this thread was about an anonymous letter. Any one know what was in the letter?
11:44
Oh, I can assure you that this Christian gentleman is far from perfect and makes mistakes every day of my life. And I don't let pride or ego get in the way when I have mistreated another human being. I know how to admit when I am wrong and make the appropriate corrections in spite of what a few scoffers have to say about me.
To the "Christian Gentleman" who criticizes others mistakes while making his own. You are anonymous to many and therefore is part of this topic.
You say just because Mr Barrett professes to be a preacher don't make him one. Well, I happen to know because I was a deacon in his last church that he has a license to preach and has been officially ordained by a church and recognized by the Baptist Association and the Southern Baptist Conference as an authorized minister of God's Word. Now what credentials do you have that proves you are a "Christian Gentleman"? So far you have shown nothing but cowardice by attacking people anonymously. One thing I'll say for Barrett he is no coward like you.
Because you see nothing being done yet about the hospital funds don't mean nothing is being done.
Regardless of any credentials barrett has, i don't think he's a preacher. A license to drive a car doesn't mean an individual has sense enough to safely operate one. In fact, that licensed driver can be a menace to other motorists. Oh, I didn't know he was still a member of the Southern Baptist Association. Are you sure he still is? Is he still a member of the Giles Baptist Association?
I just said in my above post that I am far from eprfect and that I make mistakes every day of my life. What is it about that statement that you can't seem to grasp?
What proves I'm a Christian gentleman? Well, first off, I am a gentleman, because I do not try to smear and malign others. In addition, I am not a troublemaker, nor would I defend one who is. What about you?
Were you a deacon at the church where the bucket of rocks came into play? Just asking.
As for my being a Christian, I don't think the Bible teaches that one needs a credential to be one. But I know I am. Isn't that all any Christian can say?
Do you have something else?
3:36 Read your Bible again. I think Barrett is the only one you have smear and malign.
I'm not taking up for Barrett in the least. I see his faults. Just pointing out you can't see yours,
I don't think God will appreciate you saying what you do about Barrett.
Just calling Barrett a trouble maker is wrong even if you do think he is one.
4:03
Why would God disapprove of anyone pointing out troublemakers, those whose feet are swift to mischief, those with lying tongues, those who sow discord, the haughty, the proud look, etc?
No, it is absolutely right to call a troublemaker exactly what he or she is. The Bible is filled with examples of prople who were called out and condemned for their misbehavior.
When your right you are right 5:30. So here it goes. 5:30 you are a trouble maker, an enabler of wrong doing and a self righteous hypocrite that should be condemned for your behavior.
5:51
I am none of those, which makes you a liar. Sorry, but that's what you are.
I see you are continuing to perpetuate that enabler lie allen barrett told on me. Looks like you would give it up. It makes you both look bad.
Troublemaker? Hardly so. I'm trying to get the troublemakers to stop stirring things up.
Hypocrite? Oh, I suppose we are all guilty of that to a point. But I do try to avoid being hypocritical.
You seem to think Christians are self-righteous if they call themselves such. Do you think we should be ashamed of it or keep it a secret? That is NOT what the Bible teaches. Referring to myself as a Christian does not mean I think myself perfect. I make mistakes every day. However, I do not run around town hurting people because of such character flaws as jealousy, hatred, and resentment. By the way, those things will devour you if you allow them to. Just look what they have done to the chief troublemaker.
Honestly, you need to stop drinking the kool-aid and start trying to be a peacemaker instead of a troublemaker.
Is it an eye for an eye or turn the other cheek?
6:18
It's supposed to be turn the other cheek. Why don't you inform allen barrett of that Bible principle? Perhaps he's forgotten.
6:36 My opinion is both of you have forgotten.
6:55
Don't you have anything to do? Please let him know.
Enabler 6:15,
You write "You seem to think Christians are self-righteous if they call themselves such." which is a lie and never stated or implied in any of my posts did I say any thing to the effect. So you lied. My statements were directed to you and your false claims of Christianity.
I did write that you are a self righteous hypocrite, which that statement only applied to you as I was commenting on your claims in your posts. I would never even consider including you as a Christian. Your words do not warrant it. I would label you as a liar and trouble maker as you have earned those monikers.
Mr. Barrett's spelling was correct according to the dictionary. Check the Worldbook dictionary.
7:44 is about as stupid as they come. You and you kind are what is wrong with America. YOU are a very evil person. Your post is proof of that. The enabler gets on my nerves but he isn't a hypocrite. Nothing that he has written would lead me to believe that he isn't a Christian Gentleman. Too many of you are obsessed with this person. How does it make you look to post everytime he does, with negative remarks. If you don't like him keep it to yourself. His argument is obviously with Barrett.
8:47 You say someone post every time the enabler post. Don't he post every time Barrett or anyone else does. He wants to be sure he has the last post.
Why is 7:44 stupid as they come because he/she didn't agree with your enabler.
As the enabler has said this is a free speech blog, so guess anyone can post even you.
I doubt anyone is more obsessed with the enabler than he is with Barrett.
Is the enabler your husband?
7:44
The only enabler I know of is you and maybe one more of your buddies who insist on promoting the allen barrett lie that I enable wrongdoings. That was a lie when he told it and it remains as such today. Why can't you just accept that?
No, it's people like you who seem to think that anyone who happily proclaims himself to be a Christian is some kind of self-righteous egotist. Why don't you ask barrett if he thinks he's a Christian? If he says yes, it looks like you would have to call him the same nasty name you called me. Right? If not, why not?
In my post, I said you SEEM to think; I never said that you actually do think that. There's a difference. So perhaps I was mistaken? If I was mistaken, then how can it be a lie? Can you explain that?
Contrary to what you say, I'm not a self-righteous hypocrite. And since I'm not, that makes you again a liar.
You may not consider including me as a Christian, but those who know me do. Besides, that's not up to you anyhow. Thank God.
To be called a Christian is a "moniker" none of us will ever earn. And you have some nerve criticizing and making fun of another man's relationship with the Lord.
It's unfortunate that "business as usual" on this blog SEEMS to center around belittling and smearing those who are envied and resented along with those like me who simply ask that it stop.
Chuck
Thanks for the kind remarks, but please allow me to make a point for the true enabler(s).
If I were actually enabling wrongdoing I would not consider myself a Christian but rather the hypocrite I am falsely accused of being.
9:04 and 9:18 just proved their obsession with "the enabler". They couldn't stand for someone to post in his favor. My point from the previous post has been proven. Great Job Folks!
Chuck, is this blog only for Mr. Barrett and the enabler?
I've noticed when others post something that agrees with what Barrett says the enabler pops off.
So why don't you ask him to ignore it.
I doubt anyone is any more obsessed with the enabler than she is with Barrett.
Barrett, the enabler, you and me will all have to answer to God.
I think 9:18 was right on who you are.
I have asked him to ignore it in the past. He doesn't and I can't control that. The enabler says he is a man and I believe that. I am a male as well, and that wouldn't make me his wife. Don't make assumptions about who someone is on here. I also don't believe in God. So therefore, I don't think I will have to answer to anyone when I die.
Hey Rabid, Here are a few things that you will attempt to justify. First I never called you an ugly name and you called me a liar. Don't you constantly accuse Mr Barrett of Name calling? Second how can you say you are the only who has the nerve to call him out on his so called bad behavior when you post anonymously? How is that standing up to anybody? Thirdly for Pete's sake, answer at least ONE question that I've asked. Just one. How can you possibly know how many (what you call) followers Mr Barrett has? Your tone Could be interpreted as hateful. In my experience that is not the best example a Christian can project to others.
Deanna
deana (possibly wab?)
You say you have NEVER called me a name. You just did! As smart as you claim to be, how could you have missed that?
Yes, I accuse barrett of name-calling, becauase that's what he does among other things.
I took it quite personally when he called me an enabler of wrongdoings. It's a lie and I have asked him to stop it. I realize that I post anonymously here and it shouldn't matter. However, there's a larger principle involved, and he knows I will take issue with him over it. I really believe he delights in this nmischief, and that is my chief problem with him.
The true enabler is YOU. Can you see the irony? How about the hypocrisy? You enable a lie by promoting it. Does that also make you a liar?
You asked me to answeer a question. Why don't you answer mine sometime? Nevertheless, I'll respond to yours. I believe that guy has few followers, because I just cannot fathom a large band of people who would do and say the things the does to hurt people. I refuse to believe that. In addition, I've heard far too many people talk about him in very negative ways. Oh, I forgot. That's gossip.
You know, someone said this blog is about me and barrett. Oh Lord, I hope not. Most people here in the county think as I do, but I just happen to be one of a very few who will voice my opinion on here. I never said I was the ONLY one who has the nerve to stand up to what I perceive as a wannabe bully. Most people don't read this garbage anyway, and for that I am thankful. I for one would like to see it shut down because of all the misery it has caused.
You could interpret me as hateful? Disgusted might describe me better in terms of my dislike for what I see going on here. I suppose the crowds on Pentecost would have made the same assumptuions about Peter and the others?
You call him Rabid. I would say that is an ugly name. You would be kinda dumb to claim otherwise. Come on Deana or Deanna, don't be a hyporite.
10:44 You said you had asked him in the past. Would that be Barrett or the Christian gentleman you've asked?
rabid - marked by excessive enthusiasm for and intense devotion to a cause or idea; "rabid isolationist"
fanatic, fanatical, overzealous
passionate - having or expressing strong emotions
I thought Deana called the Christian gentleman rabid because he was so quick to respond to a post.
I didn't think it meant enabler of wrong doing.
9:35
You bet I am rabid and passionate about my country and my county. And I am thoroughly tired of less than a handful of troublemakers causing so much hate and division here in Giles County. They follow the lead of one of the most resentful and jealous people I have ever known.
And you may scoff at my religious convictions, but that won't change me.
11:41,
Every one scoffs at your claims of Christianity when at most you send a message of hypocrisy from your attacks. You encourage and promote with zealous enthusiasm those in our local government who abuse power, ignore the Constitution and attack and try to silence any citizen that disagrees with them or question actions of those who violate written policy. In most cases you lead the attacks any time a question is asked or posted on this blog. You have written and probably will continue to write absolute lies on this blog in defense of certain county commissioners' actions and tried to justify their actions through more of your lies.
By no way would I ever consider you Christian or a representative of the faith.
Chuck Norris aka Vincent Vega, aka anonymous, aka the enabler's biggest fan or husband. You're posts are so stupid that I can't see wasting any time on arguing your opinions that are just ignorant and as hypocritical as the enablers.
5:03
No, just you guys scoff at my Christianity. I woulod bet you will find far more who laugh at barrett's though.
I dont care if you would include me or not. YOU are not the judge. Get over it and deal with it.
If it wastes your time, please don't bother. Ok?
11:41, I have no idea who you are but no one here on earth has the right to judge someone's Christianity. There will be but one judge. Unless these people can run the government it will never be right for them. They wanted Financial Management and now they talk about how bad it is because they are not in control. This whole thing is about who is in control. Barrett could not get elected and he cannot stand it that he has no control so he sues.
6:44
That's what many many people think.
6:44,
If financial management was operated correctly then no one would say a word but paying invoices on blank letterhead that are not itemized as well as not following written protocol when handling public funds are just a couple of discrepancies from that office in which the public is aware.
In addition Mrs. Garner was the one that prepared the projections of revenues for the county to set a budget, in part based projected revenues from the weigh station, that should have started flowing into the county by now but have not. The weigh station was not complete and only had a projected opening date at the time but based on the strong belief of Mrs. Garner that the revenues would exceed what she had projected.
If the budget is set by the commissioners based on cash flow projections you submit as head of the the financial management office and those projections of income are over stated then what are you going to do to pay the bills? Take it upon yourself to bypass written rules and pull money from funds that are off limits. Is this an example of the good behavior that you defend?
Any system is only as good as the people in charge of its operation. Having a central accounting office should allow that office to specialize in the proper accountability of cash flow through the county more efficiently. Specialization in business breeds more efficient systems so why is our financial management system so inefficient?
Some of the answers may be that the rules are in place to protect the tax payers but if the person in charge is not following the rules and does not feel they are accountable when breaking those rules then can we expect the other employees in that office to follow rules?
5:03 is a moron that needs to be taught a lesson in manners. You are the 1 that the enabler talks about. The 1 complete supporter that posts as a whole host of names. You sound like an idiot. Yes I am calling you names because you act like a spoiled little child. Why do you even care what he posts? You better learn to keep that mouth shut.
Or what 8:43? Or should I say Chuck Norris, aka Vincent Vega, aka anonymous, aka the enabler's biggest fan or husband.
You really show your stupidity with your anonymous threats. The bottom line is that you are so mad that you got called on the way you post and it tears you up that you are not fooling any one.
And your little tantrum you displayed at 8:43 is funnier than any thing I've ever seen on Hee Haw. So if you don't like my posts go cry and pout in the corner.
And while I'm here, 6:11 why are you so concerned about what others think of Barrett? No one is to judge you but you judge and ask every one else to judge Barrett. You are obsessed.
10:48
For your information, I am the one allen barrett told the lie on that I willfully go along with and promote things I know to be wrong. That was a lie when he told it, and it remains as such today. That's right, he told a lie. Imagine that!
Now, since I consider myself a Christian gentleman, it would seem highly unlikely that I have a husband. And my Bible teaches me that two men ought not be married.
Do you really have anything you want to discuss or would you rather just be contentious and cause trouble?
10:48 is a sad, sick individual that has nothing else to do with her life. I am laughing at how dumb you really are. I see everything on this blog as a joke. It entertains me. It also lets me know that there are inferior people in this world that have made it the hell hole that it is. That includes you. Keep stirring up trouble and gossiping. That is what you do best. You are a child in an adults body.
10:59,
That's a laugh since your words show you have a very distorted view of Christianity; who knows what you justify in your own mind. Christianity is a shield of convenience for you as opposed to the example you set.
per your later post at 11:24, you don't fool any one. Every one knows that you are on here to attack and steer the blog off topic and you have nothing to add except attacks. So throw your little tantrum and cry a little more.
If you want to attack one of my previous posts I welcome it so you can show your stupidity a little more. I'll re post it for you.
If financial management was operated correctly then no one would say a word but paying invoices on blank letterhead that are not itemized as well as not following written protocol when handling public funds are just a couple of discrepancies from that office in which the public is aware.
In addition Mrs. Garner was the one that prepared the projections of revenues for the county to set a budget, in part based on projected revenues from the weigh station, that should have started flowing into the county by now but have not. The weigh station was not complete and only had a projected opening date at the time but based on the strong belief of Mrs. Garner that the revenues would exceed what she had projected.
If the budget is set by the commissioners based on cash flow projections you submit as head of the the financial management office and those projections of income are over stated then what are you going to do to pay the bills? Take it upon yourself to bypass written rules and pull money from funds that are off limits. Is this an example of the good behavior that you defend?
Any system is only as good as the people in charge of its operation. Having a central accounting office should allow that office to specialize in the proper accountability of cash flow through the county more efficiently. Specialization in business breeds more efficient systems so why is our financial management system so inefficient?
Some of the answers may be that the rules are in place to protect the tax payers but if the person in charge is not following the rules and does not feel they are accountable when breaking those rules then can we expect the other employees in that office to follow rules?
11:25
Your first paragraph about me is a lie. Deal with it. Who do you think you are that you would judge my heart?
Oh, I noticed that you posted this garbage at 11:25. I was wondering if you attended sunrise services at the church where you worship?
Your charge that I posted at 11:24 is a lie. Deal with it.
Your accusation that I am on here to steer discussion away form the topic is a lie. Deal with it.
Look, if you feel like Mrs. Garner is doing something illegal, why don't you call the atate auditors? Oh, but I'll bet you would say the auditors are in on the corruption, so why bother. What a laugh.
1:36,
Since you think you are good at giving advice I'll give you some. Don't worry about me or where or if I go to church. I'm not the one claiming to be Christian. I have the right to believe and worship as I choose any way I see fit. How I worship is between me an the creator and no man. If you don't like what I write you deal with it.
Your last paragraph is stupid as well as a lie. We have a local government that should fire her and I am sure some of the commissioners would like to. If our local government does its job then there should be no need for the auditor. Plus I am pretty sure some one has already contacted them and I do not pre-judge the State Auditor as you have me. You sinner.
So here is a little advice, if you are going to advertise that you are Christian start acting like one. Deal with it.
But thanks for ignoring the question about the financial management office and trying to change the subject once again.
I'll ask the question once more.
If the budget is set by the commissioners based on cash flow projections you submit as head of the the financial management office and those projections of income are over stated then what are you going to do to pay the bills? Take it upon yourself to bypass written rules and pull money from funds that are off limits. Is this an example of the good behavior that you defend?
5:36
I don't want or need your advice. YOU are the one who made a smart reamrk about my Christianity. Oh, that's ok if you do, but Heaven forbid if anyone questions you.
WHO SAID you don't have a right to believe as you choose? IT WASN'T ME!! What a joke. Deal with it.
Look, if you think there's a problem with illegality, why don't you go to the proper authorities and stop this bellyaching? I wasn't trying to avoid your quesion. The truth of the matter is that I am not a county official and am therefore not close enough to the situation to speculate on it. And I'm not about to go stirring up trouble, calling names, and the like when I do not know. Ok?
Hey, I advertise my Christianity by not only the way I conduct myself but in the way I treat my fellow man. Perhaps you guys should try it sometime.
This should be handled on a local level by the Financial Management Committee and the Budget Committee. No point in contacting the state auditors as the auditor assigned to Giles county lives in Giles county and is good friends with the finance office personnel. Not his job anyways.
Well let's let them handle it and not try to stir up a lot of trouble. If there's anything found wrong, then I would totally agree that disciplinary action should and must be taken.
I read that the Christian Gentleman is Dan Watson is that true?
9:17
Actually, Dan may be a Christian gentleman as well. I don't know him, but I hear he is.
Looks like this so-called free speech blog has reached an all-time low.
Since everyone knows that the enabler is dan watson, why must he keep hiding behind anonymous? That is what you call a real coward.
7:30
Actually, the true enabler is the one who keeps promoting the lie allen barrett told simply because he challenged and disagreed with some of the nasty things being said on this blog.
7:30, The Enabler is not Dan Watson. Why don't you tell who you are? If you are so brave. You think someone might come pay you a visit?
FF
FF
7:30 is the true enabler.
fleet fox or enabler,
Why are you so up on every one saying who they are when you use many pseudo-names?
There is but one Fleet Fox 4:28. Don't let your brain overload.
FF
4:28
I'd say you are the enabler of strife and the follower of a troublemaker. Why?
4:28 is a victim of ignorance. Some people are just sheep. You can't hold them accountable when they can't think for themselves.
I don't know if Dan Watson is the first one called enabler and no one else but Dan knows that for sure.
No one knows who any of the enablers are.
So please stop saying for sure who they are or are not.
If you want to say you guess that who someone is, sounds better. Might have to prove it if you say for sure.
My opinion is one day every anonymous posters' name will be reviled.
What does reviled mean?
8:55
Revile - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/revile
Examples of REVILE. Many people reviled him for his callous behavior. Origin of REVILE.
Middle English, from Anglo-French reviler to despise, from re- + vil vile ...
I guess they meant someone is going to find out who all us anonymous people are.
I think they meant revealed.
Yes, and if barrett reveals those who post anonymously, I would say he is wide open for yet another lawsuit or two. I don't think he can make a provision for people to post anonymously and then surprise them by making their names public.
7:53 You know nothing about what you are talking about.
9:23
Sorry, but I do know. Deal with it.
If something bad is said about someone else, could they not have the names revealed?
Just a question.
I think those who go about calling people nasty names and accusing them of illegal activity need to be revealed.
It continually amazes me that others claim to know more about me than I know about myself. Look, it's this simple, I am the world's foremost authority on Allen Barrett, I have known him longer than anyone alive today. I am constantly with him and share his most private thoughts. We have been inseparable all our lives so if you want to know anything about me talk to me not some pseudo-psychological
cretin. So, as I have stated before without a court order I will not reveal the identity entrusted to me of anyone posting on this blog without their permission.
wab
A measure of honest introspection is worth more than an immeassurable pile of pontification.
...Bill Purdin
4:08 Got you crack in didn't you.
10:55
No. I simply made a good point.
4:08 Why don't you learn to laugh a little and stop taking everything so serious.
It is funny that a quote from a nobody is a good point in your mind but when quotes from our founding fathers in defense of the Constitution are posted on this blog they are irrelevant because they were written in the 17 and 1800's.
But it is ironic that you would post that quote.
“The thrill of being right is a drug that few can resist.”
Bill Purdin quotes
Describes the christian gentleman to a T.
wab
I will when you stop bragging and trying to stir up trouble. Oh, I take what you are doing quite seriously as do a great number of people in Giles County.
Looks like you would read that Purdin quote closely and make the proper application.
12:22
Yes, it is quite a thrill to be a Christian in this day and time.
Barrett don't post half as much as you do, 12:38.
3:08
You are right. I believe he starts trouble and then sits back and watches those like you carry the torch. Funny how you can't seem to see that.
3:25 Then why do you keep fanning the flames, oh perfect lady.
7:52
Because of troublemakers like you.
Why do you keep stumbling over my gender? Ridiculous.
I see the perfect one had the last word. So might as well give him a reason to post. He might get bored.
Sorry Dan but I haven't been bragging
and have no desire to stir up trouble.
I just state the facts and you have every right to make a wrong interpretation.
Allen,
How can you be such an advocate for free speech and claim to respect the fact some remain anonymous, but yet you are now trying to assume that a certain person is posting anonymous? That makes you a huge hypocrite and totally biased. I think that Dan Watson is a little more intelligent than the enabler appears. You are making yourself look very childish to be quite frank. I understand that Watson made you look pretty silly with one of his past articles. If you don't want that to be the common theme surrounding your name in the county, I would suggest you quit helping him out by making yourself look bad.
I love what 8:53 said about Dan Watson being more intelligent than the enabler.
10:28
The only problem is that I am not Dan Watson nor am I the one allen barrett started the lie on that I enable wrongdoings. That's right; he told a lie. Although he never apologized for telling that lie, I am prepared to let it go now, but his one or two followers like you just keep fanning the flame.
Here's something barrett needs to let marinate in his brain. Just because someone disagrees with him doesn't mean he or she is a buffoon who promotes wrongdoing. We are all individuals who have a right to our own opinions and beliefs. I don't think he really understands that principle. Ironically, the one (barrett) making such an accusation is the wrongdoer. I believe that to be outrageous and hyppocritical. Would you agree??
7:27 So you're not Dan Watson nor the one Barrett told the lie on.
8:05
Thank you for pointing out the error in what I posted. Let me clarify.
I am not Dan Watson nor am I an enabler of wrongdoings. Oh yes, I AM the one allen barrett started that lie on.
My apologies for the error.
I'm confused I thought Watson was the "Christian Gentleman" is the enabler the CG or just an enabler?
8:37
No, you understand what was said. I think you just want to keep something stirred up.
I happen to be a Christian AND a gentleman whom barrett told that lie on. I cannot speak for Dan Watson. How difficult is that for you to understand?
To 8:53 You stated "How can you be such an advocate for free speech and claim to respect the fact some remain anonymous, but yet you are now trying to assume that a certain person is posting anonymous? That makes you a huge hypocrite and totally biased."
Sorry but I don't follow your train of thought. I very much believe in free speech and I do respect the fact that some must post anonymously because of the retribution that would be taken against them for exposing information about things in the government that is unsettling at best and plain illegal at worse.
What I do not have any respect for is the person who hides behind the anonymous title while making personal attacks against private citizens and their families. I see nothing hypocritical about my position as it is the same now as it has always been.
As for Dan Watson my objection with him is that he used his newspaper space to attack me personally without providing one specific piece of supportive evidence for his mean spirited attack. This was done while supporting wrong behavior of some county officials. He then made the matter worse by publishing a letter from an unknown person in violation of newspaper rules.
Does it not seem that having two local political figures write articles for the same newspaper each week is a bit much?
wab
No, I think your frequent negative and accusatory letters in the paper are FAR too much. Just because someone doesn't see things YOUR way does not make him or her a supporter of wrong. Why can't you understand that rather simple concept?
If vanzant or the commissioners are doing something wrong and I support them in that, that makes me an enabler.
Prove they aren't doing anything wrong rather than your attack against barrett.
Barrett may be wrong but without anything that proves it why should I believe it.
Barrett,
I didn't see him use your name in his article. So in that aspect you could have just let it go and nobody would have known any different. But no, you have to go write a rediculous letter to the editor to try and make him look stupid. The only problem is that it made you look stupid and he kept his place at the paper writing one of the best articles in the paper. You do it to yourself man. Free Speech is for everyone, not just you. You need to try and think about someone other than yourself sometimes. I wouldn't know Dan Watson if I saw him on the street, but what he writes is interesting and I certainly don't see him as a political figure. As far as the other one you speak of, I can't read Whit's Well. Too boring for me.
2:57 What exactly are they doing wrong? If they are, why then don't you report them to the proper authorities and stop trying to stir up needless trouble?
Are you an enabler? I'm certainly not, although that lie was told on me simply because I don't see things the way you guys do.
4:51 You obviously are not aware of the background on which Watson based his article.
And, if you think Watson's articles are one of the best in the paper, than dont say much for the paper!
I have to agree with 6:04 but I also have to agree with 4:51 about Whit's Well, more like "well it is witless".
5:53 Who would be the proper authority to report the wrong if anything wrong is going on with vanzant and the commissioners?
Barrett has pointed out things he thinks is wrong. I don't know if they are or not. No one gives any proof barrett is wrong. Barrett gives things he thinks is proof, or they? No one proves him wrong, they just attack him.
9:47
You said it; he points out what HE thinks and then calls people names when they don't share his views. As for who the proper authorities might be, I have no idea. But since you guys want to point fingers, looks like it's up to you and not me to find out.
By the way, he's been proven wrong more than once right here on this blog.
7:16 I believe you need glasses. I didn't see anywhere 9:47 said Barrett called them names.
DAW did point out things. You have never done anything but attack WAB. That proves nothing.
You say report to the proper authorities but don't know who they would be. Looks like no one else does either.
My guess would be state Marshall or Attorney General.
9:29
Would you deny that allen barrett calls people names when they disagree with him or point out his misbehavior? Surely, you're not that naive and blinded.
Since you know who the proper authorities are, may we depend on you to make that report? Don't you think barrett would have already done that had there been a chance to get something stirred up? After all, is he not (in his own mind) the modern-day muckraker?
1:30 I didn't say Barrett had not called people names. I said you said post 9:47 agreed he called people names. In my opinion that is putting words in someone else's post not there.
I said my GUESS on who the proper authorities would be. I don't know for sure.
I've HEARD on one of the televisions stations there is a reporter likes to check things out and put it on tv. If anyone knows who that is and knows proof of something wrong going on tell him.
What is a muckraker.
2:35
Yes, hopefully he will come down here for the McAlister trial.
2:25
Aren't you engaging in gossip about that television reporter? You said you heard about it.
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