Big Change In School Board Policy; Efforts To Stifle Citizen Input At Meetings.
I must say that I am extremely disappointed that the new
Director of schools has chosen to limit citizen input at School Board Meetings.
According to the newspaper The Director now requires anyone
wishing to speak to fill out a form with a brief summary of their comments prior
to the meeting. While this may, on the surface sounds like a reasonable idea it
is not a new one. If the board or Director was intending to use this prior
information too prepare a response I would be more in favor of it but they do
not, instead they intend to contact the speaker within 24 or 48 hours with a
response. If they can’t even decide
whether to make contact within two days or four days what’s the point? The
major problem however exist in the fact that to submit a request prior to the
meeting as to what your comments will be requires that you know what will be
discussed at the meeting. Very few people have developed the ability to actually
foretell the future and thus will not be able to predict the Boards actions and
therefore will not be able to write prior to the Board Meeting what they wish
to question. I fear this is nothing more
than just another nefarious attempt to prevent any citizen input at School
Board Meetings. Why is the current system so objectionable, is it simply the
reality that some Board members are terrified of being revealed as less than
honorable, truthful, intelligent or controlled?
I hope the Director will reconsider this policy and continue
to allow the three minutes at the end of the meetings to be used by those
citizens who wish to be heard on current matters.
posted by Allen Barrett | 4:44 AM
344 Comments:
More power to him! More and more people are getting on the anti-Barrett bandwagon and don't was to waste time listening to your bull crap! Good job Dr. Webb!
Mr. Barrett,
I don't think you would be happy if Jesus Christ was elected, or appointed, or hired to serve any office in Giles County. You do nothing but stir up trouble, and you are not a help to this County at all.
24 to 48 hours is one to two days, not two to four. He's going to contact the person who fills out the form after the meeting when they speak their piece. The form is to be a reminder to Webb of which person said what at the meeting. Like if you were the person concerned with the new agenda, you don't want to be mistaken for the person who talked about school uniforms. I would know, I was at the meeting. Barrett was not.
This is just the beginning. Watch and you shall see.
Dr. Webb is wise to do what he can to stave off outbursts and troublemaking at meetings. applaud him in this effort.
Can Antony actually say when there has been any kind of outburst during the three minute comment time? The truth is there hasn’t been one. I’m a teacher and. I’ve been at the meetings and watched on tv. The board especially the two who run it just can’t stand being put on the spot or challenged. Without the pressure put on the board by such people as Murrey and Barrett we’d still have To. Jackson.
Don't forget to vote them out next time they come up for election. First you are going to have to talk someone good into running against them.
There are two board members that don't want any challenges to what is being decided by them. One in particular is the leading gargoyle. He is never wrong because he thinks he knows everything. Two don't know a board meeting is taking place and two others are being led by the ring in their noses. Ask the general public what they think of the board and their decisions lately. It is no surprise of the huge disappointment in all of them.
The director of schools is a guest of the school board. He/she is to be invited to the board meetings and can only participate when spoken to or directors report. so the dumb butts we call board members are dumb butts.
Mr Barrett, have you ever considered signing up for the Leadership Class through the Chamber of Commerce? It is a great way for individuals to learn how government works. I really think it would be beneficial to you to take this class.
7:51 Have you taken it?
Very well said 7:51. Hopefully you and all of the other elected officials will attend. Hopefully you will also pay very close attention to the part " a government for the people, of the people"! Whens the next class?
Yes but no one said you had to listen to total idiots!
Telling someone ahead of time makes sense to me. Maybe they want to be able to have the answer for someone instead of saying I do not know.
They still wouldn't know. If the director is the employee of the school board then how can this be his decision? Shouldn't the spineless board make this call. Story, Bryan and Eades seem to know everything why aren't they making the call,
To Aug. 3 that is a big problem. The last election none of the even numbers had anyone to run against them. So I hope know one is bitching in their district.
The board is probably making the call.
Being a board member cannot be a breeze. Would you want your phone ringing all night, going out to eat must be horrible, even a simple trip to Walmart could be a nightmare. It has to be the flip side of being a celebrity! If you people think it is easy why don't you run. Any public office can be bad, I know a few commissioners and board members and it is a real sacrifice for them. They certainly are not in it for the pay.
They should of thought about that before they ran. It goes with the job. They are there for the people not for their own power.
I saw one of my board members lately and we spoke and talked like he wasn't a board member and didn't mention the school problems. He didn't seem afraid to speak to people.
Four of them have agendas and one wants a job in the school system. That person pressures each director to give him/her a job. Board is sucking right now as much as I have ever seen.
A lot of disgruntled employees in the ranks too. More than people out there realize.
Aren't there about four or perhaps a few more here in the county who are doing their best to cause as much trouble as they can for certain elected officials they have decided are unfit?
Good morning CG.
5:38 You have that backwards there are a few elected and appointed officials that are trying as hard as they can to show their ignorance, arrogance and incompetence by their violation of rules of good judgement, human abuse and illegal actions.
WAB. Don't you think that its time to give up? You are not winning?
Isn't there old old saying never give up. It would make life better for some (like cg) if WAB gave up, but hope he stays in there. If he gave up then Vanzant and commissioners could do as they please which I think they do anyway. They are just a little cautious since some one is watching them.
Barrett
There are a lot more people who would agree with 5:38 than with you.
Perhaps I should have said, "WAB, you have lost".
I can't think of a single thing that has gotten accomplished from your efforts. Things have gotten accomplished, but not from your efforts.
Why did aman leave the PES?
Will Giles County be joinging Detroit and the other cities in the near future?
http://www.ijreview.com/2013/08/71680-12-u-s-cities-following-detroit-into-bankrupcy-and-the-party-running-them-into-the-ground/
Barrett, you just stated in your 8:33 am post "...violation of rules...illegal actions". There is an ad that runs in the local paper very frequently by Circuit Court Clerk advising citizens that if they know of wrong doing they should report it to her office or the Grand Jury. I would suggest you write out all of these and take them directly to this office for prosecution. If you can't do that then SHUT THE HELL UP because you can't prove it. RIGHT?
Back to the subject. At baord meeting tonight, director wants to revoke tenure for all teachers. That was put in place to avoid this kind of situation. If a hot head director wants to fire someone jsut because he doesn't like that person, it prevents that. He has already seen that he can't just rid himself of a teacher with tenure...Pam Ogden. He just seems to be looking for lawsuits. He still has several in cheatham County pending. He has taken money from several administrators only to be used for questionable spending.
4:33 A little angry aren't you?
Yeah, tenure for Pam Ogden, isn't she the one who basically blew the school budget by $1.0 Million in her department. She's a prime example of why tenure needs to be revoked.
The vast majority of employees work without any protection like tenure. If you get a bad boss, you might lose your job. The teachers complain they don't get paid like all other careers, removing tenure would be a good step towards moving in the same direction as all other careers.
4:33 pretty much nails it on the head!
Thank God Obama doesn't have tenure
9:57 YES!! I've been so afraid he would get it where he could run again.
9:57
IF there's anything left of our country by the time Obama gets close to the end of his second term, look for him to create some national emergency so that he can declare martial law and set himself up as dictator supreme. This is the WORST president we have ever had, and he is destroying us little by little. The amazing thing about it all is that his supporters still can't see it. They don't want to see it.
Sounds familiar round here doesn't it?
Let's keep to the facts and leave out the usual Giles County rumors and lies 6:41. Webb didn't ask to do away with tenure for all teachers, only one employee. If you had been there you would know. Must have cause and proof to get it done. Some need to go.
This site is full of lies and twisted truths. Barrett and his followers like to jump the gun and report and gossip about misinformation hoping ignorant folks will believe it to be true. Look at how far that has gotten them.
No Charter.
Last in his commission race.
No candidate elected when he is a known strong supporter.
Already fat-mouthing the director of schools. (who is doing a great job)
I say let him and his pals like 8:27 keep running their stupid mouths. Keeps them out of office.
4:28
You are so right. These people are very dangerous. They apparently aren't going away, but we can keep them out of office by voting for their opponents. Good post.
11:04
Whether he asked for one revocation or 100, his attorney advised him to drop the issue. He will lose because it appears he is directing his ire at one specific worker. Looks like another law suit to me. Cheatham County? Too bad he thinks a school system and children can be dealt with like a business. The raw material is the student. You can't just throw one piece (student) out and discard it like trash. Some of you need to know TCA and educational law.
Yes 428 I must be stupid....there is nothing at all WTO g with the way things are done here. Right. You must be one of the officials in the loop, or a relative, or a favored employee maybe? Maybe just delusional?
4:28, 521 (CG) Why don't you prove what Barrett says is wrong by telling your side. All you know to do is condemn Barret.
I think 10:17 has your number.
10:17 Sorry but it took me awhile before I think you meant "wrong" instead of WTO g. I know how easy it is to hit the wrong letter.
11:04 Thanks for your post. I wish other would come back like you have instead of how they despise WAB.
8:34 Why are you trying to start a foolish and needless argument with somebody? I don't recall seeing anyone accusing WAB of being right or wrong.
At least 10:17 is brave enough to admit she is stupid. If only 6:52 would do the same?
6:52 Why do you always come back against Barrett when he post something if you don't agree with what he says?
Do you not want what he tells told and know it is right?
No they (you) don't say what he says is right or wrong just come back with something stupid that leaves people to think you don't agree with him.
I think you have lost a few marbles (my opinion) over this.
834 yes I did mean wrong...my auto correct freaked out!
833pm....sorry if you missed the sarcasm, you seem to be the only one....and btw--I'm a he if that matters.
9:03
I think your anger is directed toward whoever put Barrett in his place AGAIN on Aug 8 at 4:33. The post was not directed to0 you and is therefore none of your business anyhow. Oh, but you quickly came to Barrett's aid, didn't you? Why don't you let that guy speak for himself?
5:47 I guess you posted 4:33 to Barrett only, sorry others read it.
My post of 9:03 had nothing to do with the post of 4:33. I've asked before for someone to tell if what Barrett posted was wrong instead of your cute remarks about Barrett.
Why don't you post why Barrett's threads are wrong? Why are you so angry? I'm not angry and don't know Barrett so would like to know if he is telling us the truth. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
When I read Barretts thread and then see some of the things said about Barrett instead of why his post was wrong or at least someone else' side I think he must be right and they are upset because Barrett told it.
I'm sorry if you thought this Free Speech blog was only for you. I posted on it this time to you and anyone else can tell me to go take a hike if they feel like it, the blog doesn't belong to me.
I agree with the above poster in that I have yet to see anything on here that proves Barrett is wrong about anything, even the highly thought of Me. Rackley who only offered his word against the offical records Barrett has posted. One thing obvious about the 8/8 @ 4:33 is they don’t the difference between criminal law and administrative law. Because a person breaks the law doesn't mean there is a penalty from the law, an example is the president violations of not implemting parts of Obamacare. Running a traffic sign is a violation of the law and punishable but is not a criminal offense that could be dealt with through the grand jury. If Barrett is not being truthful then give credible evidence to prove him wrong, so far it seems no one has even attempted to prove him wrong with actual facts just personal attacks. One thing I can see right off is except for Barrett and this blog there is much that I would not know and spending the. Hospital money is one of those things.
Dr. Webb is simply trying to undo the illegal things that Jackson did. You would not believe the people who were being paid extra money and should not have. Yes, money was taken away from people who were not being paid by the salary schedule simply to talk them into taking another job because they were dong so poorly in the job they had (with tenure). Then there were those who were paid on the good old boy salary schedule. We certainly needed to keep retired people on payroll working halftime and making 63% pay. We needed his old classmates and/or their spouses making much more than they should. Sorry folks but when someone makes $10,000 more than the salary schedule says they should there is something terribly wrong. Way to go Dr. Webb!!
9:16 You are right. Thanks for posting something that needed to be said.
9:16 / 12:32
You have no idea what you are talking about.
8:36 Are you saying it was alright for Jackson to put the retires on the payroll at the central office?
They know exactly what they are talking about, 8:36. Don't try to look past the facts just because you are disgruntled. Would you like to have a face-to-face and talk about it over coffee?
Really 8:36? Don't you think we should hire young people who want and need a job for those positions that were being given to retired people. Do you realize that those people were probably making $75,000 between their part time salary and their retirement while we had people who finished college and were standing in the unemployment line or working at minimum wage jobs. That is a travesty. I would much rather my tax dollars went for good young people to get started in a teaching career. If the people who are retirement age want to work that is fine but don't expect to do nothing and get paid double. And yes, I know exactly what I am talking about.
If the ones that retired wanted to keep working in the school system why did they retire? Saw a way to get more money?
I didn't want Webb, but now think with his cleaning up Jackson's mess think that was the right decision. I do question one think he has done and others have talked about it on here before.
Have you ever considered that retired teachers love children and honestly believe that, with their experience, they can make a difference? I don't think they are in it for the money.
So a retired teacher loves children that is great. Continue to work but don't retire and and expect to make a a killing off the county. Do we really need to have a retired teacher in study hall? You should nt be able to have your cake and eat it too.
Such jealousy.
I agree 5:15. Jealousy at its worse.
8:10 & 9:07 Do you think 5:47 got the message? Sounds like you put her in her place.
If you don't like Giles County School System, try Lawrence and see how they treat you.
Can't enroll you if you are 18 years old.
http://www.wsmv.com/story/23117413/lawrence-co-student-turned-away-from-senior-year-due-to-age
Retired teachers can VOLUNTEER their time if they truly love the children. I believe the double dipping was resolved (thankfully). The irritating thing to me if finding a job in the school system. I am a certified teacher without a teaching job. I pretty much have applied for every position available (even as an aide, which is as close to a volunteer job as possible) but to no avail. What really makes me mad though, is some of the awful, tenured teachers we have in this county. I have no idea how they were hired in the first place. They do not act or dress professionally. Slobs! I can work circles around these people, but am stuck at a dead end job waiting for next year. Blah!
*is
9:16
If what you say was the full truth, there would be no complaint here. But money was taken from people who were making the exact amount listed on thier salary schedule. Last time I checked it wasn't illegal to get paid by the salary schedule. And this was done after they were specifically told that thier pay would not change. And you know how they were told? They weren't. They found out when they got thier paycheck. And talked into taking another job? There was no talking involved, they were just told they would be moved or could retire. These were people who had NOT retired an worked part time like the ones you mention. They were still working because they loved thier jobs and had years of experience to offer. Money was also taken from some principals and not that bonus performance money and some supervisors but others got raises. Doesn't have anything to do with how good a job they do either. Just look at the scores. And guess what? They weren't told either. Want to guess where money that was taken from these people went? Ask the board chairman's wife if she got a raise. Yeah. So explain to me again how honorable and moral all this is? You could ask the director but he is never here.
All of those who spout how great Webb has done will change your minds shortly. He is destroying this school system with morale being as low as have ever been seen. The man is NEVER in the office, but "works" from HOME. Don't you wish you could make $102,000 and sit at home and have a cool one while all the rest are busting their asses trying to teach and supervise.
Thank you 7:13 and 9:08 for steeping up and telling the truth about what is really happening at the Board. The director has no sense of belonging to this community, thus he can rid, shift people or cut their salaries without justification. It is such a tragedy that our county officials feel that no one is capable of running our offices from within the ranks. Shame again on the School Board for their inexcusable acts of power.
for stepping up
Webb is doing what he was hired to do. His bosses are pulling the strings. He has to do what his bosses say just like we have to do what ours say, but since he is not from here it is easier for him to take the blame for it. I feels sorry for him. I really believe that is why the board hired him instead of the local folks. The locals would have never done all this. Bottom line is that it needed to be done. I would like for you to look at the people who were cut and find their old salary on the salary schedule, it is not there! Once upon a time there was "other money" that was paid to people but that went away years ago and we kept paying it. If those people who were cut can prove otherwise they can easily get their salary back. All of that is in black and white.
August 14, 2013 6:52:00 AM, how can you feel sorry for Webb??? Look at the post on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 9:08:00 PM. All that is very true. Remember these school board members when the next election comes up. GET RID OF THEM!! The Giles County school system can't handle much more of them.
Stop bitching, 9:48. You clearly have resentment toward Webb. Maybe you are one of the lazy teachers that can't do your job. Maybe you aren't a teacher and you just bitch all the time, like Barrett. Either way, you sound like an idiot. Webb is doing what he needs to do. The school system will be much better because of this. Sorry he is hurting your feelings. No, really I"m not.
8:41 I hope you're not a teacher.
I don't have anything bad to say about Webb. In fact I like he has laid a lot off but your remark is just plain hateful. How can you instruct and act like that?
It is a shame that the people who were moved somewhere else cannot figure that there was a reason. You were moved because you cannot or will not do your job. The salary schedule is base pay. The people that were cut were getting extra money on top of that, not hundreds but thousands.
Why were they getting extra money?
What reason did Jackson give for giving them extra money?
I thought salary was based on eduction and years teaching.
Principals got paid according to teachers under them so Holt must of lost money in his move.
Bill Holt retired. The reason for money: not having the !@##$ to tell someone they were incompetent so he bribed them to change jobs or did not take money that used to be paid was but done away with years ago.
5:43 Wasn't Holt told to change jobs and he retired? What a laugh you sound like him.
"It is a shame that the people who were moved somewhere else cannot figure that there was a reason. You were moved because you cannot or will not do your job."
Was that a question about the Cindy Young move?
Who asked a question about the Cindy Young move? I must of missed that.
So I will ask it then why was she moved? 9:05 Are you saying Mrs. Braden couldn't do the job? If not how did the it get done since Jackson quit?
My main thoughts have been "Webb a good job letting the retires go."
Too many people have been at the central office. Strange how Allen Parker could do the job by himself then how many did it take to fill his shoes?
I noticed that Thursday, August 15, 2013 9:05:00 PM to your question Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:14:00 PM, so I'll take the liberty of giving you an answer, which I think you already know anyway. Mrs. Young was moved in, and Mrs. Braden was moved out because Mr. Young is the school board chairman, who by the way is Mr. Webb's boss. In the words of Gomer Pyle, "Surprise, surprise!"
Do you have proof of that, 3:22? I think you are probably just a pain in the ass.
Mrs. Braden did an excellent job and has in every position she has been in. If you look at her today and looked at her in May she has changed so much. The stress of the job was getting to her. She was making herself sick trying to do the job. Mike Young is not the one calling the shots from the board. Every one know who the board member with the agenda and the demands is.
6:41 Do tell who it is. If Mike isn't calling a lot of shots how id his wife get her job?
Politics. Politics. Ole Don is running the show. He thinks he is Mob Boss and God Father. Look at what benefits Richland School seems to be getting as opposed to the other schools in the county. Let's be fair to all the schools and not start giving more to the north end of the county. They opened up the zoning so that students from town could attend Richland. Why? Did not think principals could supervise relatives. Doesn't matter at RHS.
Students should be able to attend any school, within the county, they please. Some parents and students don't want to go to GCHS because of the thugs and politics down there. Plus, the North End of the county is a much better place.
I guess all the Red Necks attend the North End. You must have one of those second rate athletic children that can't shine anywhere other than Richland "Hick Town" High School.
Zoning was originally implemented at Richland because of an overcrowding problem when the school was first built. With the decline in enrollment along with the addition of a separate school for the elementary classes, this is no longer a problem. Hence, the opening up of the zoning regulations.Sounds like 8:34 and 10:24 are jealous. Perhaps y'all didn't get to go there and have regretted in since?
If the writing's on the wall, all you have to do is read it. You can read, can't you Friday, August 16, 2013 5:35:00 PM???
10:24,
My kids are interested in having a good job one day, not athletics. They had also rather go to a school with people from the country rather than a bunch of illiterate thugs at GCHS.
I hope you understand that your first rate athletic child has almost 0 chance of ever making money because of a sport. Where will that leave them? They will be broke and useless with a bunch of kids that attend GCHS and drawing a welfare check. So you go on and be proud of your athletic child. Im sure they will be begging mine for a job one day.
Yeah. Those great kids of yours get their asses kicked on a regular basis.
Is that the best you got, 1:21? For one, nobody has ever kicked my kids asses because they are respected and don't have that mentality. Secondly, I assure you they could hold their own if needed.
I really hope your terrible attitude and parenting isn't passed down to your children. You are showing typical behavior of a parent that doesn't care about your kids future. How many kids from Giles County are making money playing sports?
1:54 don't worry ..... 1:21 and their kids are inbred and all they know is reality TV and have no clue what it is like in the real world. Chances are they have never been out of Giles County or Tennessee, except maybe to Alabama. I am pretty sure that they have never traveled the entire US or have gone overseas.
Those of us who have gone to school, collage and beyond do try to make the world better.
An other thing 1:21 if you are thinking about kicking my ass???? I have been shot up twice in combat and survived and I can take care of myself and my son is very capable of taking care of himself, his father and mother.
1:21 you have just proven the perception that I have of GCHS graduates, especially those in the 30's and 40's. Now go back to your TV and beer.
GTC
People, this is the reason the schools don't play each other in basketball and football. There is too much animosity between the communities. If attitudes like this prevail, why should they ever want to have a spirited rivalry?
Is Webb still helping to coach the football team?
All this hatred and reference to local "inbreds" make me sick. By the way, I saw a LOT of trash like that when I was living in the North...moreso than I have ever seen here. Thank God, I got to leave. This thing needs to be shut down.
The schools are also in different divisions, so there's that.
How right you are, 11:04. It would seem that the posters who think they have all the answers actually have none. They have to fabricate the facts so that they fit into their neat little redneck box. What a shame.
Ray
No ray and WAB have all the answers!
Has anybody noticed Flatrock furniture is going out of business??? Wow they have literally trashed Giles County with their signs. I have even noticed them all over other counties. Barrett why don't you get on something worthwhile and support a sign ordinance to clean up the trash in Giles county. When going out of business can last for months and litter our roadways. Something needs to be done. 30 days max, please! Also notice the large amount of yellow flashing temporary signs in Pulaski used as permanent signs. I also love the hand painted( by a third grader) Millie's Flea Market sign just stuck up everywhere! Fence posts should not be allowed for signs. I think it would change the entire look of Giles county if these type signs were eliminated. At least take them down after your event!!! Let's take pride in Giles County, or trash it!
Should be "not trash it". Sorry!
3:19 AM Why should it be Allen Barrett's job to get a sign ordinance passed? Giles County has never approached the problem as far as I can recall, and the city of Pulaski has been trying to get a sign ordinance for years with seven plus people on the council not being able to work it out. Remember a document was created years ago but the local Realtors created such a fuss the council backed down and it went nowhere. Call your local council and tell them to get an ordinance passed. Its not Barrett's job. Funny how those who oppose Barrett so much then turn round and want him to do something for them.
8:25 Good post.
3:09, my but you are a clever s.o.b., you know? You wouldn't happen to have any zingers that I could borrow, would you? I might need to put someone in their place like you did me someday. You really showed me. I may never get over the trauma your statement caused me. I am truly impressed. Dumbass.
Ray
No Sign ordinance ever. Enforce the existing ordinances and leave our speech alone.
I must agree with 8:25 the very same people who find fault with every word Barrett says are the same ones who call on him to fix all their problems. Makes me wonder is he the troublemaker some make him out to be or is he the guy to get things done?
Where is he by the way, I haven't heard anything from him or seen him at any meetings for a long time.
I read in the Tennessean yesterday that there are several gun manufacturers looking to move to new sites. I seem to remember Barrett talking about this a few months ago and asking why the EDC/IDB didn't start contacting those manufacturers as soon as the oppressive laws were passed in NY and Conn. An aggressive campaign was needed but an opportunity was missed. I wonder how many other opportunities like that have slipped through our fingers.
I thought this post was about school board policy. The comments have strayed off topic.
So what topic has been followed without straying.
At least it isn't about the great cg.
Richland is getting out of TSSAA to avoid following the rules. They are allowing ineligible players to stay on teams rather than tell those players they are not eligible to play. Is that the right thing to do and the right thing to teach the children? Any experts want to weigh in with an opinion?
9:53
Let's hope he has moved out of the county.
5:09 When are you going to move out of the countRy?
I thought the blog was dying. See it's being kept alive with childish post.
Allen, once again you have blown this out of proportion. The change in the board meeting doesn't limit you in anyway. You can get the agenda before the meeting and write your note. You still, only get to speak for 3 minutes. You are once again speaking for yourself, and not the community. As for what Dr. Webb is doing in the school system, it is his right to reassign personnel as needed. The contract employees were all retired, and sucking a huge chunk of money out of the system. I wish people would give the man a chance, he is just getting started. Give the man a chance. He is going to piss people off, but he is trying to fix the disasters of Tee. Let's see what happens. I know the people at Elkton are happier. They have a chance to be relieved from 2 years of tyranny. Gonzales ruined Elkton. If you don't believe that, look at the scores. They are the lowest in 5 years. Let's give Webb a chance.
I can't recall a time when Allen Barrett has spoken for more than a few disgruntled citizens. Gotta be the leader of something, I guess?
I also don't believe anyone that opposes what the man does and stands for is trying to get him to do anything about signs. It is moronic to even wish something like that would happen, 8:25 and 9:53.
Ray, the idiot is coming out of you again. Try to control it.
Saturday, August 17, 2013 10:24:00 AM, as a proud alumni of GCHS, I'm extremely disappointed in your remarks about "illiterate thugs". Both of my children that have attended (and graduated from there)can read very well and are far from thuggish. I'm saddened that you can talk about "thugs" when there has never been a school shooting at GCHS. I pray daily for the families that Jamie Rouse tore apart that day. So my comment to you is never point fingers because 3 more are pointing back at you.
10:17 I like your post, also have two children that graduated from GCHS and have done good in life.
seems like a lot of jealousy going on from people.
I suggest you ask those children if they experienced thuggish behavior from students and teachers while they were there. Because a child survives and does well doesn't necessarily mean they didn't go through hell on the way. Look at the number of students that have been arrested, the number of fights, the amount of bullying, and the severity of intimidation from both other students and faculty. Ask the kids, don't rely just on the way it was forty years ago.
9:25, to my knowledge, you were never "in" me, although with your obvious homoerotic tendencies I can understand how your thoughts would run towards that direction. Buck up sweetheart, your condition doesn't carry the stigma that it once did. If you stop telling everyone, they probably won't even notice. Hugs and kisses, babe.
Ray
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What's wrong, 10:50, that feeble mind of yours cant think of anything to say that want get deleted? Better luck next time.
Want? I'm pretty sure that it is won't, as in will not!
Well, you got me there, but you probably want do it agin.
10:17 and 10:46,
I truly hope your children got their brain from the other parent. Who is stupid enough to think that a number of kids don't graduate and do well from every school in the country? And "doing well" is certainly subjective, if you know what that means. I simply stated a fact that GCHS is crowded with illiterate thugs and inner city trash of all races and types.
Truer words were never spoken, 6:41. You hit the nail on the head. I'm sure half of them will wind up overdosing or being found in the trunk of a car somewhere.
I wouldn't go that far, 7:33. There are definitely problems with a lot of students at GCHS. I hope some of the actions by Webb will start to change things.
I can't argue the fact that most students at that school have no ambition in life. Play sports, sell drugs or live off the government seems to be what the parents are teaching them.
Be careful 10:50, you might find yourself floating in the Tennessee River!
Yeah WAB, I thought you were all about exposing corruption! I guess it all depends on who is involved!
His silence and low profile as of late could mean he is planning another unsuccessful bid for some county office. Either that, or he's working on another "case". What a crock.
Funny how some can't post without added bad words then cry like a baby when their post gets deleted.
cg who's corruption do you think WAB deleted?
8:37
You know you're a very sick individual, don't you?
He helps students alright. Go to Channel 5 news and look up Dr. Webb Cheatham County Schools and see what happen to a child when parents went to Webb for help. Just hope he doesn't give that kind of help around here. And the Board knew all of this. Don't ask what happen look it up on You Tube of Google Channel 5 News and Dr. Tim Webb.
Thought I would see what stupid remarks was on the blog today.
Sounds like 10:04 got it today.
He/she must be a sick person.
I was wondering what corrupt person 5:32 was talking about.
The kids at GCHS are no worse than other children in this county. As a matter of fact, SO MUCH is hidden that happens at RHS because they do a better job of keeping BAD things out of the public. As former teachers, bus drivers and students what goes on. You will be SHOCKED. I resent that students at GCHS are labeled as thugs when so many of them have become doctors, lawyers, teachers, service workers, etc.
Calling the students illiterate thugs shows the mentality of those who choose to go elsewhere in the county to school as in RHS.
Nothing has been said how they chose to get out of TSSAA rather than do what is right by not allowing ineligible students to participate in sports there. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Hey 11:29. Why not tell them to look up how many children total lost their lives in Cheatham during that time. I suppose you think he is responsible for all of those? Sounds to me like Cheatham had/has lots of issues.
"We’re a program that is trying to find our ways and identity and when you go up against a top program (Moore County) you are going to have some struggles”.
Translation - I'm a crappy coach!
I find it funny that people think Gonzales "ruined" Elkton. He might have "ruined" the sorry attitudes of the teachers. They were allowed to run free under Polly. Then the "awful" Gonzales came along and wanted to give the kids an education. A lot of the teachers there should retire and go to the crazy farm where they belong. I could give you a list! Because Gonzales wanted to change a few things, he "ruined" the school. Idiots.
9:56 This is the first time I have found anything on the blog for Gonzales. Thank you for posting something for someone. Most people just want to attack WAB.
I don't know anything about Elkton School or whether you or right or wrong, but it's good to hear two sides. I wish other people could do that.
11:29 The kids at Richland love Webb. They know he cares about them. He would not ignore a student in trouble if he knew about it. Ask about the thousand plates served before the game last night or the standing ovation he got when introduced. He is making positive changes here. You wouldn't say the Cheatham board knew something unless you were from there. You didn't want him. He is ours now. You cheathamm people are ignorant and stupid. STAY OUT OF GILES BUSINESS.
Another race for county office or another case??? Let's see, WAB (What A Buffoon) is 0-2 in elections and 0-3 in his civil cases. Can't really blame him for lying low.
Damn 12:03, you honestly have nothing whatsoever to offer,do you? Why don't you go back under your bridge like a good troll before somebody worsens your mental condition? Anonymous is exactly what you should be. I'm sure your family avoids much embarrassment that way. Moron.
11:59 You started out with a good post but just had to let your childishness show on the last.
11:59 and 12:03 must of been posted by same person that don't like WAB. What a laugh he/she is.
Ever heard "Be Careful What You Wish For" it might come true.
12:03 simply told the truth.
You said,
I find it funny that people think Gonzales "ruined" Elkton. He might have "ruined" the sorry attitudes of the teachers. They were allowed to run free under Polly. Then the "awful" Gonzales came along and wanted to give the kids an education. A lot of the teachers there should retire and go to the crazy farm where they belong. I could give you a list! Because Gonzales wanted to change a few things, he "ruined" the school. Idiots.
Saturday, August 24, 2013 9:56:00 AM
You have the nerve to call people idiots, and you really have no clue what happened. "Dr." Gonzales, bullied teachers, neglected students and had a management style more akin to Tyranny than to Leadership. He changed policies that adversely affected all students and teachers as well. You call those who didn't like these things "idiots"? Who do you think you are? If you want the proof, look at the scores from Elkton. When Bobby Polly left, Elkton was one of the best schools in the county. After two years with Gonzales, it is one of, if not the worst schools in the county. Donna Cobb has her work cut out for her. I know she will do a great job. You sir, or ma'am, have no idea what you are talking about. You probably have never stepped foot into Elkton school, or talked to one of the teachers. You should just be quiet, since we already think you a fool. Don't remove all doubt.
Friday, August 23, 2013 5:45:00 PM,
I applaud you on speaking about GCHS in such a positive manner. I am probably one of your former students and it hurts me deeply to see these people on here degrade me and my GCHS alums.I know many that have graced the halls of GCHS and can proudly say that they can count,read,spell and write. I have worked with many graduates from RHS and can say from experience that they CAN NOT count or spell anywhere near the capacity that the GCHS grads can. Don't claim I am slinging mud, I'm just stating life experience facts. I agree that anything that happens at Richland is swept under the rug and hidden from public view. But we all know there have been some rather disgusting acts happen up there by teachers and students. As a teacher in this system myself, I can say that I was anxious to see how Dr. Webb would do after all the negativity that had followed him into the county last year. From meeting him at inservice, I can say that I am impressed with him and the good things that he has outlined for our system. Giles Co parents should know that he seems to have the education of the kids first and foremost in his plan. It's up to the parents to help him and the teachers bring these plans into fruition. Parents, get involved in your children's education. Make sure they do their homework, check it to see if it's right and they understand it. Above all else, teach them to respect their elders.
Yeah Webb loved the Richland bunch so much he was looking for another job when he applied for this county. He had already gone to another county and interviewed. So I feel like he will be wondering off pretty soon. His track record is screw up everything and move on.
10:16
Why do you hate Dr. Webb as you do? Who planted that seed in your head? Do you even know?
Has Dr. Webb now been added the "most hated" list for Giles County? If so, he joins such notable and horrible people as Mrs. Vanzant, Terry Harwell, David Rackley, Jerry Bryant, ALL of the 7th District commissioners, the election commission employees, and on and on. You know...the people you guys have been told are no good, corrupt, and dishonest. You took the bait and ran with it, and just look at what all this hatred has done for Giles County. All it has caused is hatred and division.
You people just never cease to amaze me. What a blight on our community!
Good morning CG. You often ask "Do you know who caused you to hate (name anyone you want)".
Well I can answer why I didn't want Dr. Webb in Giles County. It came from Cheatham County before I read anything on the blog. So that is one time you can't say Barrett did it. I also thought he was a friend of Tee Jackson and I thought Jackson had done enough damage for Giles County.
If people hadn't been so upset with Jackson and the school board, we wouldn't have the extra expense of the FD.
Now that we have Dr. Webb lets give him a chance. I like a lot of things he has done. All those people that use to post against Bill Holt should like that Webb's changes got Holt to retire.
7:24CG? those are not my initials, and besides...what difference does it make who I am?
You say give Dr. Webb a chance, but your earlier post shows that you despise him. WHY? I can appreciate your disdain for Mr. Jackson, but why don't you lighten up on Dr. Webb until he shows himself to be the wrong choice for Giles County? Other than Barrett, you seem to be the only one who wants to give him grief right from the start.
You say you "thought" he was a friend of Mr. Jackson? Now there's a really solid piece of evidence against Dr. Webb. LOL.
Again, lighten up.
If you're not cg then you are certainly letting him write your posts for you. Your posts have too many "tells" for you to be able to deny being him/her. Don't be ashamed after all this time; we get you and your veiled hatred on this blog.
Why do you have to claim a person hates someone just because they disagree with them or the things they do? I don't hate anyone but certainly don't like some things that are being done and some of the people doing them.
9:26
Again...LOL.
David Little - outsider
Tee Jackson - outsider
Tim Webb - outsider
Seems like Giles County does not have anyone who is smart enough to lead anything. Look where the above have gotten us.
8:22 Ever heard of people changing their mind? I think someone said they were going to quit posting then changed their mind.
My first thoughts came from people who had dealt with him. After he became Director, I decided he might not be as bad as I had heard.
Despise or hate you love to put words in people's post that's not there and that is what the person claiming to be a Christian Gentleman does. I didn't despise Dr Webb just didn't want him being the School Director. There is a difference.
Does this sound familiar??
Webb said leaving Cheatham County Schools was the best decision for himself and the school system. He was scheduled to be interviewed by NewsChannel5, but later said he was too busy. Webb did however acknowledge on the phone that he has made big changes that's made a lot of people mad.
"I think the way he came in just changing things so quickly it kind of upset everybody. They didn't like the changes so soon," said Cheatham County parent Misty Bumpus.
What is your point, 10:54? Last I heard, making positive changes in a hurry isn't against the law. It wasn't very hard to see what needed to be done in this county to make the school system better.
5:04--You still have no idea what has happened and what is to come that will undo so much good that has been done in this county. Start with the C Young and all the other poorly handled decisions. He deals with everyone over the phone and not face to face. He is either at home or RHS most of the time.
Again, what is your point, 10:37? I only hear a couple things that you don't like. The is certainly no breaking any laws.
You think Barrett has cost the county money. Webb will cost this county money soon too.
How is the lawsuit progressing between the EDC/IDB and the solar company?
I'm wondering why Barrett has been so silent lately. Could it be that he is trying to change his stripes and gear up for yet another unsuccessful election bid?
Hey Saturday @4:56 pm. I have debated with myself whether to put this on here or not. Fool I am? Huh! The way most of the teachers acted towards Dr. Gonzales at Elkton was the foolish, non-Christian way to act. I love how you assume I've never set foot in the building at Elkton. I have an idea of who you are, but you know not of me! LOL! I sat in those same faculty meetings with you every Tuesday after school for two solid years! I think Dr. Gonzales did an excellent job! I miss having him at our school (nothing wrong with Coach Cobb, I love her as well). Tyrannical behavior? I think you are a little upset because he made some of the old timers stay on their toes! At least our faculty dressed better with him as the head of our school. Yes, idiots! I wanted to say so bad for two years for y'all to GROW UP and act like adults instead of the children we teach. Lead by example and quit talking behind others backs (especially at recess). I will see you later today, I am going to enjoy the rest of my planning period!
I totally love how all the school websites are a year or two behind. How funny, but we had to update Webb's picture on the BOE website. Get your act together and stay up to date! Ridiculous!
Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:14:00 AM
Another good post of telling the other side instead of attacking WAB.
Good for you, just wish you hadn't called anyone an idiot.
Sorry about the idiot. Heat of the moment thing.
9:42 Good for you.
Any person that holds people accountable for their actions will have opposition. Probably more enemies than friends due to the fact that older people are set in their ways and hate change. I am sure that Gonzales was doing an excellent job at Elkton. Polly was old and hanging around to draw a paycheck.
A good manager and leader will always make decisions based on the betterment of his/her task set before them. Most of the time that means people will hate you for being held accountable. There is a lot of that on this blog.
Well said 5:56 pm. That is exactly what happened at my beloved Elkton!
Tuesday, August 27, 2013 11:06:00 AM we'll soon see if any laws were in fact broken. Stay tuned.
So many mistakes have been made that have really hurt morale from bus drivers to principals to central office staff. If you don't think so, ask someone in the school system. Maybe, they won't be frightened too much to talk to you. Schools and Central office losing more and more irreplacable people. You may say we can all be replaced. Keep thinking that.
My question is; How does Dr. Webb know they aren't doing a good job so soon? Someone has to be telling him.
Tee Jackson like to keep journals on people he couldn't trust and then try to manipulate them by threatening to expose them if they didn't play is silly game. He must have left Webb some journals. Has anyone noticed how impressed the board was with his great budget he produced straight off the bat and showed where he had made cuts and saved all this money. And now he is asking for $1.1 million. How many times is he going to make amendments to the budget and have the system in a hole. People get ready, he may be the worse one yet. And I will laugh my tush off at the board. Way to go Story and Bryant. TSBA gotcha by the Gonads,
To: Friday, August 30, 2013 7:37:00 AM
Did you even bother to listen at the last meeting? Or we're you even there? The budget is balanced. The 1.1 million is coming out of the systems fund balance for much needed repairs to our schools. There was a capital outlay plan voted on at the meeting. That is what the money is for. My goodness but some people are just to lazy to check things out before they run their mouths. Webb may not be perfect, but he is already doing a damn site better job than Jackson ever did.
Yeah, balancing the budget by cutting the salaries of everyone around him except his. Before one of you say that he should have cut some salaries, ask yourself what would happen to you if your boss cut your hours or your wages by $2.00 an hour if you are one on the clock? To reduce someone's salary from $3000-$10,000 can be devastating to a family.
Well 840... One thing to keep in mind is the dr Webb had asked for a smaller salary---which the board over ruled and gave him a higher one....so how's he supposed to then cut his own?
9:39
When was your salary/wages last cut? Do you have a job or are you a board member with his/her head stuck up your a..?
I will gladly shove your head up your ass if you tell me who you are, 2:49. Please don't continue to smart off then be a coward and post anonymously. Here is your chance, take it.
John
Big Bad John--Looking for a fight or being a DA. You have NO idea what you are talking about when it comes to the school system. You need to shut up.
Come on you little coward, tell me who you are. I will make you apologize on this blog for telling me to shut up. Are you gonna back up that comment? Coward piece of crap.
John
Word has it that ebb is now going to be working in the office. I always thought he was supposed to be working out of the office on West Hill.
Webb is now working
Vote FOR the Charter next time.
We will have to defeat that charter thing again? I was afraid of that. And we will!
Yep that's right vote for the charter, after all look where their idea of countywide finance got us. Everything is so much better! ha ha ha
Vanzant’s hand picked buddy almost broke the county and lost over a million because she would not follow the financial law that was in effect, she would be in jail now but vanzant protected her so she would keep quiet.
249.... I would answer that if it had anything to do with what I pointed out idiot. Did he or did he not ask for a smaller salary?
But no--I am no board member.
School employees are paid on a salary scale. If you can find your salary on that scale and you are not being paid that much you have a case. If you were being paid extra and it is not legit you can forget it.
1:25 If anyone had been paid higher than they were suppose to be paid, who made the decision to pay more?
I don't understand how that could happen. Was this really done and can the person sue the school board for cutting their pay?
Wish someone would answer 6:56 pm's post. I also would like to know that.
Hey guess what, all you school board defenders? Did you know that the State gave all teachers a raise? Guess what the BOE did. Decided NOT to give it to the teachers. Said it was to cover insurance. Is that even legal? No teacher I know was even consulted. What if a teacher doesn't use the school's insurance? Where is their raise? Think about that for a minute and let it sink in. The State of Tennessee awards teachers a raise and the BOE spends it elsewhere. Is that fraud, embezzlement, stealing, all of the above, or is it ok? I'm no lawyer but common decency would dictate at least give the teachers a choice. Also it is my understanding that teachers serve on the calendar committee and several versions are voted on. The current version was not even presented. Any other working parents like me gonna have trouble making it to their childs parent-teacher conference this year? Have we jumped out of the frying pan into the fire? Sure are some bizarre things going on. Explain the raise situation, please school board. Have the backbone to come forward for our kids and their teachers. Morale is pretty low, stress is pretty high. And remember all of you are elected and their are more teachers who vote than any other demographic in the county!
Worried parent
You should be worried Tuesday, September 03, 2013 8:33:00 PM. Teachers and staff are not being treated fairly by the board and the director. How long will this continue? Maybe not as long as some might think.
Teachers and most administrators have been hurt more in the last two months than any time in this county's history. More and more is being asked of them and paid less. Principal at Elkton came to work with 0 years experience and makes more than those with 15 years of experience. Wonder why? Teachers have asked to meet with the Dr. and they were stood up. He said he was working from 6 to 6. It hasn't been at the Central Office. He is still working at Richland. All the other schools parking lots and streets are falling to pieces and Richland School gets its parkig lot paved. Favoritism? Sure sounds like it. He has his favorites and they work like he does.
I was wondering how long it would take for someone to say that Webb shows favoritism to Richland? Why wouldnt he? He did a tremendous job there and the kids absolutely adore him. No, he is not perfect, but the man puts in his hours for this entire system. Heck, he put in 12 hrs/day as principal at Richland. Teachers being asked to do more and more and get paid less and less is nothing new and didnt happen just because he is here. That scenario is happening at all job places around the country. As far as the parking lot and streets, Richland's has been in pitiful shape for a very, very long time. Walk thru the school. We only began getting updates in the school when he came because parents believed in him and wanted to help him make the school a better place. So, yes, parents volunteered their skill and their time to put down floors, paint walls, etc.
9:44--As long as you are getting what YOU want, it doesn't make any diffence about the rest of the county does it.
"Heck, he put in 12 hrs/day as principal at Richland." All the principals put in that kind of time. Some are more productive than others, but there is a lot of work to being an educator.
"He did a tremendous job there and the kids absolutely adore him." I am sure they did adore him when they could do what they wanted. It is obvious you don't work as an educator because you would know what you said means.
Cheatham County problems all over again. Wait and watch.
Tsk, tsk.....you must be one of those educators that was drawing a pension and contract pay on taxpayer time.......Getting what we want....We lived thru Hell with the last two principals, so don't tell us about getting what we want. Your right, I am not one of those educators but several of my friends are at all places around the school system. I am a parent whose two children didn't get to experience a real principal, but hopefully my third will with Webb and now Franklin. Suck it up.
Friday, September 06, 2013 9:01:00 PM look at your grammer. "Your right, I am not one.." You must have attended Richland High School and received an excellent education!
Oh 9:29, don't grade lest ye be graded.
You needed a comma between "PM" and "look". Also, an ellipsis consists of three dots, not two. I guess you went to GCHS, huh? If you look hard enough, you can find errors in most everyone's posts.
Most of Richland's parking has never been paved. It has not been touched but once since the school opened in the late 70's.
It was not paved, but it was tarred and graveled like most of the other campuses.
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